[05:40] <saidinesh5> holstein: how did your gig go?
[05:54] <holstein> saidinesh5: fine :)
[05:54] <saidinesh5> :)
[05:56] <holstein> how did you do today?
[06:00] <saidinesh5> just woke up :P
[06:00] <saidinesh5> today i m somehow determined to burn another whole day in this Amarok bug thats plaguing me......
[06:00] <saidinesh5> (after that Amarok will have music visualization!! :D )
[06:03] <holstein> cool
[06:03] <saidinesh5> :D
[12:39] <ckontros> Anyone seen Scott lately?
[13:01] <abogani> No
[13:02] <ckontros> Thats odd. He hasn't commented on the list and I haven't seen him in here when I've stopped in.
[13:14] <ailo_> ckontros, He has only been logging in from work recently. Said something about being very busy lately and that he might have more time soon. 
[13:15] <ailo_> ckontros, How's the work going with the xfce stuff? I haven't followed the progress very well. Is the US daily build installable/usable?
[13:44] <ckontros> ailo_: I've asked mr.pouit from Xubuntu to review my changes. I haven't heard from him yet.
[14:31] <scott-work> i see that ubuntu is not installing synaptic by default anymore, although it will be in the repos still
[14:31] <ckontros> Yep
[14:31]  * scott-work doesn't find this unexpected but is a little saddenned by the delta from where he started with
[14:31] <scott-work> ohai ckontros :)
[14:31]  * ckontros waves
[14:31] <scott-work> you off fridays
[14:31] <scott-work> ?
[14:32] <ckontros> For 16 weeks now.
[14:33] <scott-work> just on fridays?
[14:33] <ckontros> Yes. I hope it changes soon.
[14:33] <ckontros> ie: Going back to work on fridays.
[14:37] <ckontros> scott-work: I'm gonna poke mrpouit again about reviewing our settings pkg later today. Im still trying to formulate something for the art. Izo leaving really threw me.
[14:37] <ckontros> bbs. Gotta eat.
[14:44] <scott-work> hi charlie-tca :)  how are you today?
[14:45] <charlie-tca> Still going
[15:49]  * ckontros is seriously missing Nautilus and might go to ElementaryOS at some point.
[15:58] <scott-work> ckontros: you mean the distro?  i do not know much about elemetaryOS at this point
[15:59] <ckontros> Yes. Its a WIP but they are doing cool stuff. I'm just finding Thunar a bit lacking. As good as it is.
[16:00] <holstein> nautilus is what takes me back to gnome everytime
[16:00] <scott-work> what particular features are you missing in Thunar?
[16:01] <scott-work> i must not have been using nautilus as i could have because i am not currently missing anything but want to learn
[16:01] <ckontros> scott-work: Folders remember their own view settings and tabs mostly.
[16:03] <holstein> its not so much that theres no alternative really
[16:03] <holstein> its just the little things
[16:03] <holstein> and im just used to it
[16:03] <ckontros> Pretty much
[16:10] <scott-work> i wonder if those features are on the roadmap for thunar
[16:10] <holstein> probably not
[16:11] <ckontros> Tabs will not happen last I read. I'd bet persistent folder views wont either.
[16:11] <holstein> i would imagine keeping those other filemanagers really lean are a key featuer
[16:12] <ckontros> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap
[16:13] <ckontros> Specifically: http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap/thunar
[16:16] <ckontros> What ever happened to the cool preview thing thunar had going on @ the bottom? Like Explorer in Vista/Win7.
[16:18] <ckontros> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=4780
[16:29] <scott-work> that's sad, especially the way he answered the question
[16:30]  * ckontros shrugs
[16:31] <holstein> what are the chances we could have nautilus with XFCE ?
[16:31] <ckontros> Last I saw, it pulls in a TON of GNOME deps
[16:31] <holstein> lol... 'i'll disapoint both of you' ;)
[16:32] <charlie-tca> I would go directly to jannis, since he is the developer maintaining Thunar now. 
[16:32] <holstein> bassburner: hello fellow bass player
[16:32] <charlie-tca> I thought he had plans for tabs in thunar, but I might be wrong again
[16:33] <ckontros> charlie-tca: Sure, but he ain't gonna add tabs for us. :P
[16:33] <ckontros> Oh. :)
[16:33] <charlie-tca> specifically, no, but I thought he did announce plans for that already
[16:33] <charlie-tca> possible in Xfce 4.10, but at least at a later date
[16:37] <ckontros> FYI, with GIT installed: "git clone https://github.com/shimmerproject/Ubuntu-Studio.git .themes/UbuntuStudio-Oneiric" to keep up with the theme changes.
[16:38] <bassburner> Hello.  How's it going?
[16:42] <ckontros> I'm away for a bit. PM if needed.
[16:44] <holstein> bassburner: going well, are you new? or have i just not noticed?
[16:45] <bassburner> holstein: I'm new. I'm a developer and thinking maybe I'll try and help out.
[16:46] <holstein> welcome... thats exactly the kind of help we need too :)
[16:46] <holstein> i play upright bass, mostly jazz
[16:47] <bassburner> I just sold two of my basses and ordered an electric upright.
[16:47] <holstein> what did you go with?
[16:48] <holstein> i ended up making one out of what was left of an old kay neck and fingerboard i had laying around
[16:49] <bassburner> I got a Palatino. I figured if I really get into it then I'll hunt around for a standard upright.  Living arrangements are currently questionable so the portability is a necessity.
[16:52] <holstein> cool... yeah, the price on those is hard to pass up
[16:53] <bassburner> Definitely
[16:54] <bassburner> And of course there's my electic: http://artingerguitar.com/images/gallery/001/001-024.jpg
[16:54] <holstein> cool
[16:54] <scott-work> is that semi-hollow?
[16:54] <scott-work> bassburner: ^^^
[16:54] <bassburner> scott-work: yes
[16:56] <scott-work> interesting, does it add some top end to the bass or affect the sustain?
[16:56] <scott-work> that might be the first semi-hollow body bass i've ever seen
[16:57] <scott-work> it's beautiful though
[16:57] <holstein> i havent had an electric bass for like 15 years
[16:58] <holstein> i found a mexican jazz bass on craigslist i couldnt pass up though
[16:58] <bassburner> Add's a little to the top end and the sustain goes on forever.
[16:58] <holstein> the neck is trashed, so i can get a really nice fretless neck 
[17:00] <scott-work> bassburner: what type of development work have you done previously?
[17:01] <bassburner> For my job, I've been stuck in the Microsoft world since 1993.  So from VB2 and MSSQL4.2 all the way to C# and the current ilk.
[17:01] <bassburner> But I've done plenty of hacking in Java, Python and PHP as well.
[17:01] <bassburner> My main side project is Exit 66 Jukebox which is what is now being called a cloud music player.
[17:12] <scott-work> bassburner: ever done work on a drupal website?
[17:13] <bassburner> bassburner: Yes. I've set a couple up for people including myself.  Although my site's now just running in blogofile.
[17:13] <holstein> bassburner: good to meet you... im out for pancakes
[17:14] <bassburner> scott-work: ^^^ - and that's a sign I need more caffeine
[17:14] <bassburner> holstein: good to meet you to
[17:20] <scott-work> bassburner: what is a sign of needing more coffee?
[17:20] <bassburner> scott-work: The fact that I responded to myself instead of you
[17:21] <scott-work> ah, lol, i didn't see that ;)
[17:21] <scott-work> maybe i should have some coffee too
[17:21] <scott-work> bassburner: the reason i asked about drupal is because we are trying to rework our website
[17:21] <scott-work> we were half-way done when the person helping needed to leave the country for business purposes
[17:23] <bassburner> I could definitely help out with that.
[17:57] <scott-work> bassburner: outstanding!  that would be a great, great help currently
[17:58] <scott-work> there is the added dimension of difficulty in that the install is not as clean as it typically would be for normal servers....i shall explain
[17:59] <scott-work> part of the website code is maintained within Launchpad (i presume you know about it, please tell me if you don't), which is validated by Canonical security, and then uploaded to the server
[18:00] <scott-work> you can view this here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-resources/website/files
[18:00] <scott-work> the database stuff i believe is a single instance that resides locally on the server 
[18:01] <scott-work> sorry, i'm getting ahead of myself
[18:01] <scott-work> bassburner:  when would you like to discuss helping with the website?
[18:53] <bassburner> Sorry.  Had to step away.
[18:54] <bassburner> Yes.  I know Launchpad.  I'm bassburner on there as well.
[18:56] <bassburner> scott-work: I'm fairly flexible in meeting times as long as I have a heads up.
[18:57] <scott-work> bassburner: we could do it right now here if you wish, or later if that is a better time
[18:57] <bassburner> Now is fine.  It's a slow day.
[19:11] <scott-work> bassburner: did you read some of the explanation of the how the code is kept and how the install works for the ubuntustudio.org website?
[19:12] <bassburner> Yes.
[19:14] <scott-work> okay, then you basically got most of it then :P
[19:15] <scott-work> the person who was developing the new website gave me the drupal stuff in a tarball and then a mysql (i think) dump as well
[19:15] <scott-work> do you have a place to host it for development?
[19:16] <bassburner> Yes.  I have a webfaction account.
[19:18] <scott-work> bassburner: would you like for me to email what i have to you so you can play around with it?
[19:19] <bassburner> Sure - andrew@exit66.com
[19:21] <scott-work> done
[19:21] <bassburner> got it
[19:24] <bassburner> I'll get it up this weekend and start checking it out.
[19:27] <scott-work> cool :)
[19:27] <scott-work> our tentative goal would be to get this released in for the Ocelot release, which should be late October
[19:27] <scott-work> if we can
[19:28] <scott-work> if we can't then we do what we can
[19:29] <bassburner> That should be doable.
[19:31] <bassburner> Is there a to-do or wish-list for what needs to be done?
[19:50] <scott-work> bassburner: oh, yes there is :)
[19:50] <scott-work> although it's not in that great of shape, organizationally that is
[19:51] <scott-work> bassburner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp#Original_vs_Planned_Site:
[19:51] <scott-work> sorry bassburner, do this one:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp
[19:52] <scott-work> but mainly i suppose we will need to discuss what is next to effectively make a plan
[19:52] <scott-work> but we probably should wait until you get the website up again so we can see where it stands
[19:54] <bassburner> sounds good
[20:00] <scott-work> to be forthcoming, i'll need to refresh myself on where we were going as well
[20:01] <bassburner> no problem