| Fishers | they think im connecting from proxy in #ubuntu | 07:23 |
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| Fishers | arg | 07:23 |
| holstein | they? | 07:24 |
| holstein | Fishers: whats up? | 07:25 |
| Fishers | im on comcast an they think im on a proxy' | 07:25 |
| Fishers | lol | 07:25 |
| holstein | is that a problem? | 07:25 |
| Fishers | anyhow, i read out to enable desktop cube with unity an it broke my unity | 07:26 |
| Fishers | i tried restore commands, reinstalled unity no luck | 07:26 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio doesnt use unity | 07:26 |
| Fishers | gnome 2 or 3? | 07:27 |
| holstein | i usually suggest *not* using compiz when doing multimedia anyways | 07:27 |
| holstein | we have gnome 2 right now | 07:27 |
| Fishers | o | 07:27 |
| holstein | then, next cycle go to XFCE | 07:27 |
| Fishers | i see | 07:27 |
| holstein | AFAIK, you cant do much customization yet with unity | 07:28 |
| Fishers | whats the freenode oper help chan | 07:28 |
| holstein | #freenode ?? | 07:28 |
| Fishers | with comfity you can actually | 07:28 |
| Fishers | o ty | 07:28 |
| holstein | what im suggesting is | 07:28 |
| holstein | if you wait a cycle of 2 | 07:28 |
| holstein | you'll be able to do it | 07:28 |
| holstein | without hacking | 07:29 |
| holstein | stable | 07:29 |
| holstein | and easy | 07:29 |
| Fishers | yea it will be backported or whatever | 07:29 |
| holstein | i mean, why spend a lot of time tweaking unity to look like gnome 2 | 07:29 |
| holstein | when gnome 2 is still around | 07:29 |
| Fishers | i dont | 07:29 |
| Fishers | also, i still can run gnome-panel with unity | 07:30 |
| holstein | sure, and again.. why? | 07:30 |
| holstein | why not just run gnome? | 07:30 |
| Fishers | could with ubuntu classic mode login | 07:31 |
| holstein | right | 07:31 |
| holstein | thats gnome* | 07:31 |
| holstein | gnome2 pretty much | 07:31 |
| Fishers | but i got the best of both | 07:31 |
| Fishers | but really i think gnom 3 is comming for 11.10 | 07:32 |
| holstein | you dont have to think | 07:32 |
| Fishers | is? | 07:32 |
| holstein | gnome2 is out, and gnome3 is replacing it | 07:32 |
| holstein | unity will still be default though | 07:32 |
| Fishers | will be able to login with either unity or gnome3 | 07:32 |
| holstein | Fishers: unity will be default | 07:33 |
| holstein | you can always install gnome3 | 07:33 |
| Fishers | y | 07:33 |
| holstein | and select at login | 07:33 |
| Fishers | 3 breaks unity, but in the next release it wont prob | 07:33 |
| holstein | yeah, its not going to be probably | 07:33 |
| holstein | they'll sort all that out | 07:34 |
| holstein | gnome3 will be in the repos | 07:34 |
| holstein | gnome2 is gone | 07:34 |
| Fishers | y | 07:34 |
| Fishers | am not | 07:34 |
| Fishers | wrong chan | 07:34 |
| Fouko | hello | 10:41 |
| AutoStatic | Hello Fouko | 10:43 |
| Fouko | i work today with Adobe Production Suite, is it possible to have the same thing with UbuntuStudio ? | 10:44 |
| Fouko | my favorit apps are Premiere pro and after effects | 10:44 |
| AutoStatic | No, not possible | 10:46 |
| Fouko | but there are apps like Premiere Pro and After effects on UbuntuStudio ? | 10:47 |
| AutoStatic | No | 10:47 |
| AutoStatic | Well, there are alternatives | 10:48 |
| AutoStatic | But they don't compare well to the Adobe stuff | 10:48 |
| AutoStatic | Software like kdenlive, Blender | 10:48 |
| Fouko | cinelerra ? | 10:48 |
| AutoStatic | Maybe, from what I've heard it is quite buggy | 10:49 |
| AutoStatic | And it is has a learning curve that is somewaht steeper than Premiere | 10:50 |
| Fouko | GIMP, Blender, Inkscape are really good apps | 10:50 |
| AutoStatic | But I'm no NLE/vide FX expert ;) | 10:50 |
| AutoStatic | Yes they are | 10:50 |
| AutoStatic | But those are all no NLE's like Premiere | 10:50 |
| Fouko | but there is not alternative for premiere or after effects | 10:50 |
| AutoStatic | There are alternatives but they're simply not up to par with premiere or After Effects | 10:51 |
| AutoStatic | You could take a look at kdenlive, atm I think it is the superior NLE | 10:51 |
| Fouko | is there node base compositing apps like NUKE ? | 10:52 |
| AutoStatic | Wouldn't know, never heard of it. Maybe someone else could tell. Don't think so. | 10:54 |
| AutoStatic | Video editing on Linux is a bit behind | 10:54 |
| Fouko | yes for audio or graph every things are here | 10:55 |
| Fouko | but for video ... | 10:55 |
| AutoStatic | It's simply a huge task, writing, coding and maintaining video software | 10:57 |
| Fouko | people do this for Blender and it's a really good apps | 10:57 |
| Fouko | in some way better than others | 10:57 |
| AutoStatic | Blender has a unique community/business model | 10:57 |
| Fouko | ok I'll come later | 11:07 |
| * saidinesh5 waves at holstein..... | 16:51 | |
| holstein | saidinesh5: o/ :) | 16:53 |
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| s_p_or_t_o | so, would everyone recommend studio on a lappy used for about 50% studio and 50% general use or should i stick with vanilla? | 21:59 |
| holstein | s_p_or_t_o: it literally doesnt matter | 22:11 |
| holstein | what i dont suggest is feeling like you *need* to dual boot | 22:11 |
| holstein | OR, reinstalling to aquire ubuntustudio | 22:11 |
| holstein | with laptops, i usually do vanilla with -generic kernel | 22:11 |
| holstein | sometimes i do a type of dual-booting with different kernels as needed | 22:12 |
| orngjce223 | I'm running the lowlatency kernel on an Aspire One and get about four and a half hours of battery, it's pretty good | 22:12 |
| holstein | i also like to see a live CD running on the hardware before installing | 22:12 |
| holstein | yeah, the -lowlatency is a nice compromise | 22:13 |
| s_p_or_t_o | i have vanilla 10.10 on it now so i was planning a clean install either way, i'm trying to figure out what tho lol. it has most of the apps pieced together and i like the though of the studio kernel ^_^ | 22:14 |
| * s_p_or_t_o looks at website for low lat kernel | 22:15 | |
| holstein | s_p_or_t_o: there is no studio kernel | 22:16 |
| holstein | i say, by the time 12.04 releases, we wont need a different kernel | 22:16 |
| holstein | IF you need lower latency, or have xruns, then i suggest you try -lowlatency | 22:16 |
| holstein | THEN, if that doesnt work as expected, try -realtime | 22:16 |
| holstein | i actually have one USB device that performs signifacantly better with the -generic kernel | 22:17 |
| holstein | hopefully, we will have the -lowlatency kernel as the default kernel in ubuntustudio 11.10 | 22:17 |
| holstein | BUT, assuming we *do* get that pushed into the default repos, it will be as easy as sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency | 22:18 |
| s_p_or_t_o | that would be sweet | 22:18 |
| holstein | well what would be sweet is just to have one kernel | 22:19 |
| holstein | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel for example ** | 22:19 |
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