[07:23] they think im connecting from proxy in #ubuntu [07:23] arg [07:24] they? [07:25] Fishers: whats up? [07:25] im on comcast an they think im on a proxy' [07:25] lol [07:25] is that a problem? [07:26] anyhow, i read out to enable desktop cube with unity an it broke my unity [07:26] i tried restore commands, reinstalled unity no luck [07:26] ubuntustudio doesnt use unity [07:27] gnome 2 or 3? [07:27] i usually suggest *not* using compiz when doing multimedia anyways [07:27] we have gnome 2 right now [07:27] o [07:27] then, next cycle go to XFCE [07:27] i see [07:28] AFAIK, you cant do much customization yet with unity [07:28] whats the freenode oper help chan [07:28] #freenode ?? [07:28] with comfity you can actually [07:28] o ty [07:28] what im suggesting is [07:28] if you wait a cycle of 2 [07:28] you'll be able to do it [07:29] without hacking [07:29] stable [07:29] and easy [07:29] yea it will be backported or whatever [07:29] i mean, why spend a lot of time tweaking unity to look like gnome 2 [07:29] when gnome 2 is still around [07:29] i dont [07:30] also, i still can run gnome-panel with unity [07:30] sure, and again.. why? [07:30] why not just run gnome? [07:31] could with ubuntu classic mode login [07:31] right [07:31] thats gnome* [07:31] gnome2 pretty much [07:31] but i got the best of both [07:32] but really i think gnom 3 is comming for 11.10 [07:32] you dont have to think [07:32] is? [07:32] gnome2 is out, and gnome3 is replacing it [07:32] unity will still be default though [07:32] will be able to login with either unity or gnome3 [07:33] Fishers: unity will be default [07:33] you can always install gnome3 [07:33] y [07:33] and select at login [07:33] 3 breaks unity, but in the next release it wont prob [07:33] yeah, its not going to be probably [07:34] they'll sort all that out [07:34] gnome3 will be in the repos [07:34] gnome2 is gone [07:34] y [07:34] am not [07:34] wrong chan [10:41] hello [10:43] Hello Fouko [10:44] i work today with Adobe Production Suite, is it possible to have the same thing with UbuntuStudio ? [10:44] my favorit apps are Premiere pro and after effects [10:46] No, not possible [10:47] but there are apps like Premiere Pro and After effects on UbuntuStudio ? [10:47] No [10:48] Well, there are alternatives [10:48] But they don't compare well to the Adobe stuff [10:48] Software like kdenlive, Blender [10:48] cinelerra ? [10:49] Maybe, from what I've heard it is quite buggy [10:50] And it is has a learning curve that is somewaht steeper than Premiere [10:50] GIMP, Blender, Inkscape are really good apps [10:50] But I'm no NLE/vide FX expert ;) [10:50] Yes they are [10:50] But those are all no NLE's like Premiere [10:50] but there is not alternative for premiere or after effects [10:51] There are alternatives but they're simply not up to par with premiere or After Effects [10:51] You could take a look at kdenlive, atm I think it is the superior NLE [10:52] is there node base compositing apps like NUKE ? [10:54] Wouldn't know, never heard of it. Maybe someone else could tell. Don't think so. [10:54] Video editing on Linux is a bit behind [10:55] yes for audio or graph every things are here [10:55] but for video ... [10:57] It's simply a huge task, writing, coding and maintaining video software [10:57] people do this for Blender and it's a really good apps [10:57] in some way better than others [10:57] Blender has a unique community/business model [11:07] ok I'll come later [16:51] * saidinesh5 waves at holstein..... [16:53] saidinesh5: o/ :) === GaelicGrime is now known as WBlaylock === WBlaylock is now known as GrimePhone === GrimePhone is now known as GaelicGrime [21:59] so, would everyone recommend studio on a lappy used for about 50% studio and 50% general use or should i stick with vanilla? [22:11] s_p_or_t_o: it literally doesnt matter [22:11] what i dont suggest is feeling like you *need* to dual boot [22:11] OR, reinstalling to aquire ubuntustudio [22:11] with laptops, i usually do vanilla with -generic kernel [22:12] sometimes i do a type of dual-booting with different kernels as needed [22:12] I'm running the lowlatency kernel on an Aspire One and get about four and a half hours of battery, it's pretty good [22:12] i also like to see a live CD running on the hardware before installing [22:13] yeah, the -lowlatency is a nice compromise [22:14] i have vanilla 10.10 on it now so i was planning a clean install either way, i'm trying to figure out what tho lol. it has most of the apps pieced together and i like the though of the studio kernel ^_^ [22:15] * s_p_or_t_o looks at website for low lat kernel [22:16] s_p_or_t_o: there is no studio kernel [22:16] i say, by the time 12.04 releases, we wont need a different kernel [22:16] IF you need lower latency, or have xruns, then i suggest you try -lowlatency [22:16] THEN, if that doesnt work as expected, try -realtime [22:17] i actually have one USB device that performs signifacantly better with the -generic kernel [22:17] hopefully, we will have the -lowlatency kernel as the default kernel in ubuntustudio 11.10 [22:18] BUT, assuming we *do* get that pushed into the default repos, it will be as easy as sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency [22:18] that would be sweet [22:19] well what would be sweet is just to have one kernel [22:19] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel for example **