xubuntu678 | God I installed ubuntu 11.04, my god i will never make that mistake again | 01:31 |
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xubuntu678 | thanks for making this! | 01:31 |
charlie-tca | seems like a bad night for most people to be connected... :) | 01:32 |
solomonic | Hey, so there is a little doc at the bottom.. anyway to get that off? | 05:46 |
test_ | hi, back with the unsolved problem from yesterday, help anyone? | 06:14 |
test_ | using natty, and since 2 days ago, can't log in to my original account, stuck in a login loop | 06:18 |
baws | Hello. | 06:51 |
Clerisy | my taskbar isn't showing up? | 08:53 |
Mandrew | can i install global menus in xubuntu? | 09:04 |
Clerisy | could somebody help me with my error please | 09:17 |
Clerisy | http://pastebin.com/T9txwZVQ | 09:17 |
Mandrew | can i install global menus in xubuntu? | 09:39 |
mogitaff | Hello | 13:57 |
mogitaff | Is it possible to use fai-server for xubuntu installation ? | 13:58 |
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zielkq | hey, i have a small problem - when i had xubuntu 10.10 all's work, but now i have the latest version of this linux... ;-) | 16:42 |
zielkq | when i plug my mobil phone (nokia e51) to laptop by usb cable and i choose a 'transfer media', linux coudn't open memory card from this phone... | 16:43 |
zielkq | error is: (i try to translate it, because i have other language, no english) | 16:44 |
zielkq | "it isn't possible to open catalog BC3D-C910" | 16:44 |
zielkq | "Error of input/output" | 16:45 |
zielkq | any solve of this problem? ;-) | 16:45 |
Aicasn | what's the point of the LTS line of ubuntus? are they supposedly more stable? i get that they offer "long-term support" but don't users have support by staying updated anyway? | 16:53 |
charlie-tca | yes, but normal releases are supported for 18 months, LTS is supported on desktop for 3 years, server for 5 years | 16:53 |
charlie-tca | For those not wanting to upgrade every release, LTS offers a lot of stability for a longer time | 16:54 |
Aicasn | and there's nothing more to it other than not having to upgrade as often to maintain support? | 16:54 |
Aicasn | i wonder what the demographics look like for LTS users...? my guess is that it would be more popular in business environments vs. power-user/developer/home-user machines | 17:00 |
charlie-tca | heh, most power users will upgrade every 6 months | 17:02 |
cal__ | This may be a stupid question: I recently installed Xubuntu 11.04, but unlike my other install, the "Aero-snap"-type features aren't working, and I can't find anywhere to enable them in the settings manager | 17:02 |
charlie-tca | what is "Aero-snap"? | 17:03 |
cal__ | when you drag a window to the top panel, for example, it will maximize | 17:03 |
cal__ | or to the left of the screen, it will take up half the screen by auto-resizing | 17:03 |
Wizard | it works like this in gnome3 | 17:04 |
Aicasn | bleh. not a fan of that. don't like MS assuming that by moving a window up I want it to be maximized. if I wanted that, i would click the maximize button -.- | 17:04 |
Wizard | btw, where did you get then name from? | 17:05 |
cal__ | I'm mostly used to it by habit; but am I mistaken? isn't this supposed to be enabled by default in xubuntu? | 17:05 |
cal__ | that's what MS calls it, people sometimes recognize it by that name | 17:05 |
charlie-tca | That has never been in Xubuntu. | 17:05 |
cal__ | alright. my mistake! | 17:06 |
cal__ | thanks, adios | 17:06 |
charlie-tca | It is part of Unity, in Ubuntu | 17:06 |
Aicasn | what do you guys think of Unity? does it feel more like Aero for people that a switching win7->ubuntu ? | 17:07 |
Aicasn | *are | 17:07 |
charlie-tca | We don't use it | 17:07 |
charlie-tca | Unity is part of Ubuntu, not Xubuntu | 17:08 |
Aicasn | i'm aware. figured some people have played with it | 17:08 |
charlie-tca | I have never used win7, and I have not used Unity enough to know if I like it, since Xubuntu is and has been my primary operating system since 2006 | 17:09 |
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Wizard | Aicasn: i don't know how does unity look fcomparing to windows, i haven't used it for ages | 17:39 |
Wizard | but i've been using unity, it sucks | 17:41 |
Wizard | it is really really bad, bad designed, bad thought up, bad coded | 17:42 |
Wizard | it's bad for both experienced users and for newbies, for people used to windows 98, xp, 3.11, kde1, 2, 3 and 4 gnome 1 and 2 | 17:43 |
Wizard | every single person will miss some function or be annoyed by some bug | 17:44 |
elros | "it was an interesting experiment, yielding important user data to make our product better" | 17:47 |
Aicasn | guess i'm not surprised. think unity will stay around for next ubuntu release? get cleaned up and such | 17:55 |
nicofs | Has anyone got any idea how i could get a xubuntu chroot environment to work from within maemo? | 18:06 |
elros | my guess is that unity and gnome 3 will coexist in oneiric, and mr shuttlewirth will ponder heavily on the preferred desktop for 12.04 | 18:23 |
poptisse_ | I am having an issue with restart X - i think i just broke xubuntu lol | 18:35 |
Aicasn | can you provide some details, poptisse_? where does it fail? have you checked the logs? anything conspicuous in them? | 18:41 |
poptisse_ | Hi Aicasn | 18:44 |
poptisse_ | I just enabled ctrl alt backspace to restart X - as I had edited the xorg.conf to fix a screen tearing issue. I pressed ctrl alt backspace - everything went black and came back and all i can see is my desktop with two items i had on my desktop previously, I have no menu absolutely nothing so can't run terminal or any piece of software.... | 18:44 |
Aicasn | press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and tell me if that gets you a terminal | 18:44 |
poptisse_ | Yes it turned my monitor into a terminal lol | 18:45 |
Aicasn | log in and fix your xorg.conf | 18:45 |
Aicasn | restore from backup if you made one | 18:45 |
poptisse_ | I don't think it is the xorg.conf which did it - i was simply following a tutorial which everyone else had no issues with | 18:46 |
poptisse_ | so cant see why it had affected me | 18:46 |
Aicasn | i think it's very possible that your current xorg.conf is making X unhappy. if you have a backup I strongly suggest you try it | 18:47 |
Aicasn | if not, change it back. no harm done | 18:47 |
poptisse_ | ok | 18:48 |
poptisse_ | I cant seem to be able to do that | 18:48 |
poptisse_ | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display | 18:48 |
poptisse_ | :l | 18:48 |
poptisse_ | Soon as i do | 18:48 |
poptisse_ | gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:48 |
Aicasn | use nano, vi, joe, or emacs | 18:48 |
Aicasn | you can't use apps that need X | 18:49 |
poptisse_ | :l | 18:49 |
poptisse_ | You've lost me | 18:49 |
poptisse_ | I literally installed xubuntu an hour ago | 18:49 |
poptisse_ | God all this to try and fix a screen tearing issue - makes me wanna go back to windows lol | 18:50 |
poptisse_ | Nothing seems to work for me at all.. | 18:50 |
Aicasn | log in and type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:50 |
poptisse_ | :P | 18:51 |
poptisse_ | ok | 18:51 |
poptisse_ | The line i entered was | 18:51 |
poptisse_ | Section "Extensions" | 18:51 |
poptisse_ | Option "composite" "disable" | 18:52 |
poptisse_ | EndSection | 18:52 |
poptisse_ | I got that off a tutorial - it seemed to work for everyone else with no issues like i had reported so a bit dumb founded | 18:52 |
poptisse_ | How do i save it lol | 18:53 |
poptisse_ | it says ^o for writeout but i dont know how to execute it | 18:53 |
Aicasn | ^ is control | 18:54 |
poptisse_ | ok | 18:54 |
poptisse_ | says permission denied | 18:54 |
poptisse_ | ill log into root and try that way | 18:54 |
Aicasn | or add sudo before nano | 18:54 |
Aicasn | sudo is a better habbit to get into | 18:54 |
poptisse_ | ok | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | After this can you help with my screen tearing? | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | I have tried everything | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | configz or w.e its called does not work for me | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | I have nvidia drivers installed I have tried selecting all vynsyn etc | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | no luck | 18:55 |
poptisse_ | I have managed to write the file, we'll see if that fixed it | 18:57 |
poptisse_ | :D | 18:57 |
poptisse_ | Now to solve screen tearing :( | 18:58 |
Aicasn | 2d or 3d tearing? | 18:58 |
poptisse_ | http://wildebeestplain.blogspot.com/2011/06/tearing-screen-even-with-vsyncing-on.html | 18:59 |
charlie-tca | um, Xubuntu doesn't have 2d/3d. It only has xfce, instead of unity with 2d/3d | 18:59 |
poptisse_ | Thats the tutorial i am following | 18:59 |
poptisse_ | To tell truth I am on ubuntu no one is helping on that channel so was told to come here | 18:59 |
charlie-tca | i see | 19:00 |
poptisse_ | It tears on videos and when moving windows etc - i have not tested gaming as i wont be gaming on it | 19:00 |
poptisse_ | The tutorial says to add this to the end of xorg.conf - Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection | 19:01 |
poptisse_ | I did that and that gave me the previous issue which is now fixed - but still screen tearing | 19:01 |
Aicasn | where did you get your video drivers? | 19:05 |
poptisse_ | I tried directly from nvidia but that did not go so well | 19:06 |
poptisse_ | so i did the other way thru | 19:06 |
poptisse_ | hardware driver software | 19:06 |
poptisse_ | I just did a google search - and allot of forums say that works so i cant see why it wont work for me | 19:06 |
poptisse_ | :l | 19:06 |
poptisse_ | The addition driver software - is where i downloaded the nvidia drivers | 19:08 |
poptisse_ | You able to help me at all? | 19:10 |
Aicasn | i'm looking for similar reports | 19:11 |
Aicasn | what is your video card/chip? | 19:11 |
poptisse_ | Nvidia GTX 260 | 19:11 |
poptisse_ | This guy - http://wildebeestplain.blogspot.com/2011/06/tearing-screen-even-with-vsyncing-on.html has the exact same issues as me. | 19:11 |
poptisse_ | He even mentions how he fixed it - so i thought i would try that and it did not work just gave me the error u helped fix | 19:12 |
Aicasn | are you certain there weren't any typos in the section you added? i'm reaching but I can't imagine why turning off composite would bork your 2d video | 19:13 |
poptisse_ | To the best of my knowledge no.. but than again I don't really know what am doing | 19:14 |
poptisse_ | How about if i send u my xorg.conf and u edit it and send it back via pastebin.com | 19:14 |
poptisse_ | and ill try that? | 19:14 |
Aicasn | if you just added that section to the very end of the existing xorg.conf you should be fine | 19:14 |
Aicasn | this time don't do c+a+backspace. just log out and back in again | 19:15 |
poptisse_ | ok two secs | 19:15 |
Aicasn | *** make a backup!!!! | 19:15 |
poptisse_ | :l | 19:17 |
poptisse_ | produced the exact same issue | 19:17 |
Aicasn | m'kay. i really don't know man. i might try the official nvidia drivers again | 19:18 |
Aicasn | do you have a CRT monitor? | 19:18 |
poptisse_ | No | 19:18 |
poptisse_ | It's connected via HDMI | 19:18 |
poptisse_ | I have also tried connecting via vga | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | It's a samsung lcd | 19:19 |
Aicasn | might check that the refresh rate is 60Hz. again, reaching | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | I can't get the official nvidia drivers installed | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | well | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | According to nvidia is it | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | *it is | 19:19 |
Aicasn | why? | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | It says its 60Hz | 19:19 |
poptisse_ | I try using the runpackage and it gives me some weird X is running error crap | 19:20 |
poptisse_ | two secs ill re-produce it | 19:20 |
poptisse_ | Its an irritating issue because i cant be the only one and there has to be a fix surely | 19:22 |
poptisse_ | I might even offer a cash reward for fixing it ha ha | 19:22 |
poptisse_ | ok | 19:24 |
poptisse_ | You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. | 19:24 |
poptisse_ | Thats the issue - if i can get around that it would mean i can install the official drivers | 19:25 |
Liv- | hello, anyone uses pidgin by any chance? was able to update it? | 19:26 |
CDelia | Hello people of Xubuntu | 19:28 |
CDelia | I am seeking some help. | 19:28 |
poptisse_ | ok once i edit terminal via ctrl alt f2 and stop X how do i get back to desktop? | 19:29 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: how did you stop X? | 19:29 |
poptisse_ | sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 19:29 |
poptisse_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 | 19:30 |
poptisse_ | I am following that | 19:30 |
charlie-tca | CDelia: please state your problem, all on one line, and if anyone knows an answer, they will respond | 19:30 |
Aicasn | so sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ought to do it | 19:30 |
Aicasn | if you have any nvidia packages install I would recommend removing them before installing the nvidia version | 19:30 |
Aicasn | *website version | 19:31 |
CDelia | I just switched from ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 11.04. I have been looking all over for the keyboard shortcut manager so I can set up my window switcher, volume control, and application launcher keys. I found it earlier today when I was running Xubuntu through virtual box, but now that I installed it as my main operating system I have no idea where it is. | 19:31 |
poptisse_ | oh is this fucking kidding me!!! | 19:31 |
charlie-tca | !language | poptisse_ | 19:32 |
ubottu | poptisse_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 19:32 |
poptisse_ | Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the services(8) utility, .e.g servide gdm stop | 19:32 |
poptisse_ | charlie-tca sorry i am having an issue with screen tearing and nothing seems to work not even turning on vysync | 19:33 |
charlie-tca | CDelia: either menu -> settings -> keyboard or menu -> settings -> appearance | 19:33 |
Aicasn | okay so sudo service gdm stop | 19:33 |
poptisse_ | unknown instance | 19:33 |
charlie-tca | We still keep our language clean, even when we are getting frustrated. | 19:33 |
poptisse_ | Sorry, have you got any idea how it could be fixed? | 19:34 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: ps ax | grep gdm is it running? | 19:34 |
Liv- | I can't remove packages under residual config in synaptic as the "apply" button does not work, how can remove those packages? is it ok if I use apt-get autoremove? | 19:34 |
charlie-tca | I don't, no. Aicasn seems to have some help, though | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | I don't use Ubuntu | 19:35 |
charlie-tca | Liv-: yes, that works, normally | 19:35 |
poptisse_ | aicasn no idea if it is running no idea what it is | 19:36 |
Liv- | should I do any backup just in case? | 19:36 |
CDelia | Charlie, I tried navigating to where you told me, but it is not showing me the options I am looking for to re-asign the different keyboard shortcuts. | 19:36 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: what was the output of that command? | 19:37 |
Aicasn | ps ax | grep gdm | 19:38 |
charlie-tca | Liv-: not needed. If the packages are still needed, a simple sudo apt-get install fixes it | 19:38 |
charlie-tca | CDelia: in Keyboard, application shortcuts are the shortcut keys for the system | 19:38 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: if all you get back is the grep command (or nothing at all) then gdm has already been stopped | 19:39 |
charlie-tca | in Window Manager, Keyboard tab, are the shortcuts for the window manager (xfwm) | 19:39 |
poptisse_ | it just kept saying | 19:39 |
poptisse_ | basically it was not recognised | 19:39 |
Aicasn | what was not recognized? | 19:40 |
poptisse_ | when i did | 19:40 |
poptisse_ | sudo service gdm stop | 19:40 |
CDelia | yay! | 19:40 |
poptisse_ | it did not do anythng | 19:40 |
CDelia | Thanks Charlie | 19:40 |
Aicasn | do ps ax | grep gdm | 19:40 |
poptisse_ | ok two secs | 19:40 |
Liv- | thank you, charlie-tca | 19:40 |
poptisse_ | ok did that | 19:41 |
poptisse_ | It returned some lines some of it in red | 19:42 |
CDelia | I have a cat on my back | 19:42 |
Aicasn | how many lines? | 19:42 |
poptisse_ | 7 | 19:43 |
poptisse_ | I cant copy and paste it as am talking to u via a windows 7 laptop lol | 19:43 |
CDelia | I don't understand, cat's just think oh look there is Chris, I am going to turn him into a couch by laying down on his back while he is laying down. | 19:43 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm stop | 19:43 |
poptisse_ | CD - What they're actually doing is displaying they're dominant over you and they're in charge - dont let them lay on u or they wont ever stop it | 19:43 |
CDelia | lol | 19:44 |
CDelia | Its too late for that. | 19:44 |
Aicasn | then feed one to your dog. the rest will get it | 19:44 |
CDelia | She is like 6 years old. Far set in her ways | 19:44 |
poptisse_ | gdm stop/waiting | 19:44 |
Aicasn | poptisse_: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm status | 19:45 |
Liv- | lol CDelia | 19:45 |
poptisse_ | gdm stop/waiting | 19:45 |
poptisse_ | I think it has stopped lol | 19:45 |
Aicasn | hit up arrow until you get back to the ps ax|grep gdm line then hit return | 19:46 |
Aicasn | how many lines now? | 19:46 |
poptisse_ | ok two secs | 19:46 |
poptisse_ | 1 | 19:46 |
Aicasn | grep --color=auto gdm? | 19:46 |
poptisse_ | 2037 tty2 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto gdm | 19:47 |
Aicasn | good | 19:47 |
Aicasn | now go sudo run your nvidia installer | 19:47 |
Aicasn | follow the directions carefully. when it's done do /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm start | 19:48 |
Wizard | good evening | 19:48 |
Aicasn | hey wiz | 19:48 |
poptisse_ | what do i do now lol | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | just enter | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | sudo run | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | ? | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | or | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | sudo run your nvidia installer | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | the installer is on my desktop | 19:50 |
poptisse_ | I cant run it from the terminal | 19:51 |
Aicasn | lol. sure you can | 19:51 |
poptisse_ | I have to go back to the desktop | 19:51 |
poptisse_ | well | 19:51 |
Aicasn | the desktop is a folder in the filesystem | 19:51 |
poptisse_ | I gotta find out whats it called :l lol | 19:51 |
CDelia | Now aparently I need a bath. My cat is licking my head. | 19:51 |
poptisse_ | two secs | 19:51 |
poptisse_ | cd again dominant she is marking her teritory as she does not like the smell of u | 19:51 |
CDelia | lol | 19:51 |
CDelia | I guess so | 19:52 |
poptisse_ | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run | 19:52 |
poptisse_ | Its called that | 19:52 |
poptisse_ | so how do i make it run that | 19:52 |
Aicasn | so let's find it. do find -type f -name "NVIDIA*" /home | 19:52 |
poptisse_ | ok | 19:53 |
Wizard | what are you doing? | 19:54 |
Aicasn | giving poptisse_ some tips on CLI linux :) | 19:54 |
poptisse_ | paths must precede expression /homne | 19:54 |
Aicasn | bah. find /home -type f -name "NVIDIA*" | 19:55 |
poptisse_ | Wizard - basically ubuntu 11.04 is a pile of BS and gives me awful screen tearing and no turning on vsync aint working | 19:55 |
poptisse_ | simples lol | 19:55 |
poptisse_ | it just gave me | 19:55 |
poptisse_ | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run | 19:55 |
poptisse_ | which i alreayd knew.... | 19:56 |
poptisse_ | lol | 19:56 |
Aicasn | it didn't give you the path? | 19:57 |
poptisse_ | yeh | 19:57 |
poptisse_ | Desktop | 19:57 |
Aicasn | type out the entire line please | 19:57 |
poptisse_ | ok /home/blackberry/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run | 19:58 |
Aicasn | so do cd /home/blackberry/Desktop; chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run; sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run | 19:59 |
poptisse_ | :l what on earth are u | 19:59 |
poptisse_ | some linux nerd lol | 19:59 |
poptisse_ | ok two secs | 19:59 |
Aicasn | the ; mean separate commands. either type it with the smicolons or do each command separately | 19:59 |
Aicasn | cd ... | 20:00 |
Aicasn | chmod ... | 20:00 |
Aicasn | sudo ... | 20:00 |
Wizard | dammit, i shouldn't stay here any longer | 20:01 |
Aicasn | are we bothering you? | 20:01 |
charlie-tca | !language | Wizard | 20:02 |
ubottu | Wizard: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 20:02 |
Wizard | no, i installed gnome3 for test and i really like it | 20:02 |
Wizard | charlie-tca: sorry again | 20:02 |
charlie-tca | You know those language police ;) | 20:02 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:03 |
Aicasn | picky picky picky. live in a police state. chat in a police state. it never ends.... | 20:03 |
poptisse_ | Thats that installed | 20:03 |
poptisse_ | now | 20:03 |
poptisse_ | root@blackberry:/home/blackberry/Desktop | 20:03 |
poptisse_ | what now lol | 20:03 |
Aicasn | so /usr/sbin/service gdm start | 20:03 |
Aicasn | and /usr/sbin/crossfingers | 20:04 |
Aicasn | (^^^that was a joke) | 20:04 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:05 |
poptisse_ | Back on the desktop - now do i test to see if its tearing still? | 20:05 |
Arpad2 | my Network Manager doesn't show DSL connection, can be this error resolved? | 20:05 |
Aicasn | move a window | 20:05 |
poptisse_ | Tears like a mother-plucker still | 20:06 |
Aicasn | try the xorg.conf modification again with the new drivers (backup first. it will have changed) | 20:06 |
poptisse_ | Strange i found a thread with my exact issues lol and they're alll saying 10.10 works perfectly lol | 20:06 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:06 |
poptisse_ | How do i backup? lol | 20:06 |
Aicasn | cd /etc/X11; sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup | 20:07 |
Aicasn | again, can be separate commands | 20:07 |
poptisse_ | Aicasn - u able to pm for a sec i cant pm on the webchat irc client | 20:08 |
poptisse_ | took me to | 20:10 |
poptisse_ | blackberry@blackberry:etc/X11$ | 20:10 |
poptisse_ | take it that it backed up | 20:10 |
Aicasn | ls -l xorg.conf* | 20:11 |
Aicasn | do you see both the original and the backup copy? | 20:11 |
poptisse_ | yeh | 20:12 |
poptisse_ | ok now lets do that composite crap again | 20:12 |
poptisse_ | two secs | 20:12 |
Aicasn | m'hmm | 20:12 |
poptisse_ | Originally Posted by Eromatic I've seen video tearing while only running under "Ubuntu Classic without Effects" & VDPAU. I had to follow the guide (Disabling the Composite Extension) at: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Dis...site_Extension ...as that corrected the issue with my 9500 GT & Video Driver 270.41.06-0ubuntu1. If intending to use Unity or Ubuntu Classic with Effects, you probably will not want to do this though... | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742643&page=2 | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | That is seeming to work now for everyone who has my issue | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | so | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | I am going to log out of ubuntu and log into ubuntu classic without effects | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | and run these commands | 20:13 |
poptisse_ | I pray to god this works for me | 20:14 |
poptisse_ | or am gonna die | 20:14 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:14 |
poptisse_ | :o well i managed to do the composite | 20:16 |
poptisse_ | and restart x | 20:16 |
poptisse_ | without the whole error i had before | 20:16 |
poptisse_ | lets test this out | 20:16 |
Wizard | studies prove that praying have no influence on probability of success in any case | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | still screen tearing | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | BUT! | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | not as badly as it was before | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | i still say its broke | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | lol | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | 10.10 sounds like a good option ha ha | 20:19 |
poptisse_ | Thanks for all the help - like i said fixes it dramatically but still tears... | 20:21 |
poptisse_ | a bit | 20:21 |
poptisse_ | I am a perfectionist | 20:21 |
Aicasn | i'm happy for you :) grats | 20:26 |
poptisse_ | Yeh it tears a little which it should not | 20:29 |
poptisse_ | but its not as bad as it was | 20:29 |
poptisse_ | so am happy | 20:29 |
poptisse_ | If it irritates me too much "it probs will" i can go to 10.10 | 20:29 |
poptisse_ | Everyone seems to complain that ubuntu 11.04 is not stable and is basically an alpha :l | 20:31 |
poptisse_ | I just wanted to stop using windows 7 as i had no real reason to use it and wanted to try out linux | 20:32 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:32 |
poptisse_ | Wanna help with my next issue ? ha ha "being serious" | 20:32 |
Aicasn | please deposit 25c | 20:33 |
Wizard | sure | 20:33 |
Wizard | i'm from central europe, i'm cheaper ;P | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | Basically | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | I have two montiors | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | my samsung which is infront of me | 20:33 |
Wizard | xrandr is your friend | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | connected via hdmi | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | and the other vga | 20:33 |
poptisse_ | the VGA monitor which is mounted seems to be the primary | 20:34 |
poptisse_ | where i want my samsung to be primary | 20:34 |
Wizard | hmm | 20:34 |
Wizard | i would recomment installing lxrandr | 20:34 |
poptisse_ | ok | 20:34 |
poptisse_ | wait... | 20:34 |
poptisse_ | i dont want it to tear my screen | 20:35 |
poptisse_ | i would kill u literally | 20:35 |
Wizard | no no, don't worry | 20:35 |
Wizard | it's driver independent | 20:35 |
Wizard | it operates on different xorg layer :D | 20:35 |
poptisse_ | better fucking do | 20:35 |
poptisse_ | sorry it has took me literally 14hrs to fix it lol | 20:36 |
Wizard | rotfl :D | 20:36 |
Wizard | do you haqve lxrandr installed? | 20:36 |
poptisse_ | yeh | 20:36 |
poptisse_ | cant locate it | 20:36 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:36 |
poptisse_ | I have installed it, but not sure what its under or called | 20:37 |
Wizard | alt+f2: lxrandr | 20:37 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:37 |
poptisse_ | it displays a monitor of | 20:37 |
poptisse_ | 3280x1080 | 20:37 |
poptisse_ | which is my two monitors together | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | and a refresh rate of 50 | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | great | 20:38 |
Wizard | :S | 20:38 |
Wizard | nvidia? | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | FFS! | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | Yes | 20:38 |
poptisse_ | I have nvidia | 20:38 |
Wizard | :( | 20:38 |
Wizard | ok, so i have no clues for you | 20:38 |
Wizard | there is some nvidia specific tool, nvidia-settings or something like this | 20:39 |
poptisse_ | :l | 20:39 |
poptisse_ | brb | 20:39 |
Wizard | it allows monitor settings too, but it of course does not understand xrandr | 20:39 |
poptisse_ | gonna go on my ubuntu machine on irc two secs | 20:39 |
* Aicasn cheers @ poptisse_ | 20:39 | |
poptisse | correct channel? | 20:51 |
Aicasn | si | 20:52 |
poptisse | :D | 20:52 |
charlie-tca | Wizard: dealing with Ubuntu, no Xubuntu | 20:52 |
Aicasn | someone needs to wrangle #ubuntu. it's been useless for a while now | 20:53 |
poptisse | This is the xubuntu channel tho? | 20:53 |
charlie-tca | not really correct for Ubuntu. We don't work with it everyday in this channel, even if you get someone that might be familiar | 20:53 |
Aicasn | poptisse: yeah | 20:53 |
charlie-tca | Xubuntu, yes | 20:53 |
poptisse | Ubuntu is crap | 20:53 |
poptisse | The channel that is | 20:53 |
poptisse | It has about 10,000 people connecting to it at once and u cant have decent chat and no one helps or replies | 20:53 |
poptisse | Thats why i came here | 20:53 |
Wizard | charlie-tca: you mean i should rise any questions about gnome3 and related stuff here? :> | 20:53 |
charlie-tca | You can raise/ask any question you want. That doesn't mean you will get much help with it | 20:54 |
charlie-tca | poptisse: sorry, thought you were on Ubuntu instead | 20:54 |
charlie-tca | my mistake. | 20:54 |
Wizard | actually i came here to give answers | 20:54 |
charlie-tca | Wizard: He really is using Xubuntu. Would xrander or arander give him what he wants? | 20:55 |
Aicasn | poptisse: i'm not a channel elder by any stretch, but i have no problem with people coming here for help just so long as it isn't ubuntu-specific... if you have xubuntu and need help with video drivers, we can probably help you out | 20:55 |
poptisse | So what is the major difference between ubuntu and xubuntu | 20:55 |
Wizard | software set | 20:55 |
* charlie-tca going to go hide again. Seems like he is full of errors today | 20:55 | |
charlie-tca | !ubuntu | 20:55 |
ubottu | Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com | 20:55 |
charlie-tca | !xubuntu | 20:55 |
ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 20:55 |
poptisse | Whats xfce? | 20:57 |
poptisse | !xfce | 20:57 |
ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 20:57 |
poptisse | ? | 20:57 |
poptisse | lol | 20:57 |
charlie-tca | Xfce is a much lighter desktop environment than Gnome | 20:57 |
charlie-tca | in linux, there are three major desktop environments to use, Kde, Gnome, Xfce | 20:57 |
Wizard | you've forgot about fvwm ;) | 20:58 |
Aicasn | and fluxbox | 20:58 |
charlie-tca | no, I did not say window managers | 20:58 |
charlie-tca | I said DE | 20:58 |
Wizard | so add ede, cde, lxde :D | 20:58 |
charlie-tca | Gnome is what Ubuntu is based on | 20:58 |
charlie-tca | Major DE? | 20:58 |
Wizard | the point is you can compose your desktop of whatever you want | 20:58 |
charlie-tca | there are many minor DE's, but three major ones | 20:59 |
poptisse | :l I set up my vpn - and i can see it when i go to configure vpn | 20:59 |
poptisse | but when i go to | 20:59 |
poptisse | vpn connections | 20:59 |
poptisse | it does not appear | 20:59 |
poptisse | till i restart the pc and shizzle | 20:59 |
poptisse | kinda annoying | 20:59 |
poptisse | oh ffs!! It fails on ubuntu constantly | 21:00 |
poptisse | It always says connection failed - but the details are 100% correct | 21:01 |
poptisse | so much so it works on windows and mac os x | 21:01 |
poptisse | :l | 21:01 |
poptisse | I am using pptp and it wont connect | 21:02 |
a001 | hello. i updated 10 LTS to 11.4 and now my machine won't boot | 21:03 |
a001 | it just sits at the grub prompt sh:grub> help please | 21:03 |
Aicasn | 11.04? | 21:03 |
a001 | yes sorry. 11.04 | 21:04 |
Aicasn | i don't know grub well enough to help...maybe someone else? | 21:04 |
a001 | ok thanks | 21:04 |
poptisse | Aicasn | 21:05 |
poptisse | Able to help with my vpn issue? | 21:05 |
poptisse | I can also see its an issue with ubuntu lol its defiantly not my vpn | 21:05 |
Aicasn | i don't do vpns, just basic networking stuff. check settings, check firewalls, etc. | 21:05 |
poptisse | The settings for the vpn are correct | 21:06 |
a001 | any ideas on the grub problem? machine is useless until i can get it to boot | 21:06 |
poptisse | the firewall no idea lol how to access that | 21:06 |
Aicasn | poptisse: go through menus. try settings. look for firewall-related stuff | 21:07 |
charlie-tca | !grub | 21:07 |
ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 21:07 |
charlie-tca | It works if you did not install windows, too | 21:07 |
a001 | will read. thanks, charlie-tca | 21:07 |
poptisse | It seems others are having issues - i wonder why it wont work | 21:11 |
poptisse | Especially on linux | 21:11 |
poptisse | Found a work-around just dont know how to do it | 21:13 |
poptisse | possibly help ai | 21:13 |
poptisse | Your the command king | 21:13 |
poptisse | :o 2 secs | 21:14 |
poptisse | i could do this myself if i try lol | 21:14 |
charlie-tca | poptisse: hint for IRC... type the first couple of letters of a name, hit TAB key | 21:16 |
charlie-tca | it will complete the name for you | 21:16 |
poptisse | oh ok | 21:16 |
Wizard | just like in terminal | 21:16 |
charlie-tca | Gets our attention better with the full nick | 21:16 |
poptisse | :l no could not get that to work | 21:17 |
Aicasn | won't work without an acutal irc client. web chat doesn't count | 21:17 |
poptisse | I have noticed people are saying they can connect fine using terminal but the gui wont connect | 21:17 |
poptisse | How on earth do i connect to a vpn via terminal | 21:17 |
poptisse | I found a tutorial on my vpn's site but i cant make sense of it | 21:18 |
poptisse | aicasn pm me and ill copy and paste it | 21:18 |
poptisse | wait | 21:18 |
poptisse | You can all view it here: http://pastebin.com/c4ZntMXp | 21:18 |
Aicasn | poptisse: i really can't right now. it's almost 4:30 here and I need to get wrapped up for the week. sorry :/ | 21:19 |
poptisse | ok | 21:19 |
poptisse | Wizzard or charlie could u help me make sense of the tutorial? | 21:19 |
charlie-tca | Wizard: ??? | 21:23 |
charlie-tca | Brand new user to linux and Xubuntu ^ ^ ^ | 21:24 |
Wizard | charlie-tca: ? | 21:24 |
charlie-tca | poptisse needs some help with the vpn tutorial, running it in terminal | 21:25 |
poptisse | I need to extract a file on my desktop to /etc/ using terminal | 21:25 |
poptisse | stuck at that first | 21:26 |
poptisse | I think i have done it lol two secs | 21:28 |
poptisse | :D | 21:28 |
poptisse | ok worked that out | 21:28 |
Wizard | poptisse: thi is your first day on linux? | 21:37 |
poptisse | Yes | 21:38 |
poptisse | :l | 21:38 |
poptisse | I managed to follow the tutorial correctly | 21:38 |
poptisse | and i did the | 21:38 |
poptisse | pppd call server command like it said | 21:38 |
Aicasn | you'll be fine. most people give up on their first day | 21:38 |
poptisse | it does not appear to of done anything | 21:38 |
poptisse | No | 21:39 |
poptisse | It has not connected or anything | 21:39 |
Wizard | yeah, if you survive first week you'll be fine | 21:39 |
Wizard | after 2 months it's too late | 21:39 |
Wizard | ;P | 21:39 |
poptisse | You able to help with this issue? | 21:40 |
Wizard | with vpn? | 21:40 |
Wizard | no | 21:40 |
poptisse | I need to connect to my work VPN - i work from home so its a must | 21:40 |
poptisse | The issue is linux not the vpn | 21:40 |
poptisse | so its working out how to connect | 21:40 |
Wizard | poptisse: my wife had cisco vpn working on xubuntu | 21:40 |
poptisse | Nah its not a cisco vpn | 21:40 |
Wizard | openvpn? | 21:41 |
Wizard | openvpn works ootb | 21:41 |
poptisse | openvpn on linux? | 21:42 |
poptisse | How do i install that - i tried kvpnc and had issues asking for keys and shit | 21:43 |
poptisse | Where i dont have any of that info | 21:43 |
poptisse | and did not require it for openvpn on windows | 21:43 |
Wizard | lol | 21:44 |
Wizard | the only issue with openvpn i had was under windows :d | 21:44 |
Wizard | maybe we come from different worlds | 21:44 |
poptisse | Ya able to help me install it? | 21:44 |
Wizard | do you have configuration file for it? | 21:44 |
poptisse | Yeh | 21:45 |
Wizard | install this: network-manager-openvpn | 21:45 |
poptisse | You'll have to tell me the full command | 21:46 |
poptisse | sorry | 21:46 |
Wizard | apt-get install network-manager-openvpn | 21:46 |
Wizard | this should enable importing ovpn config files from network manager | 21:47 |
poptisse | E: Option -openvpn: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>. | 21:47 |
Wizard | huh? | 21:47 |
betamark | anyone having trouble getting autofit guest to work in vmware workstation after upgrading to 11.04? | 21:48 |
betamark | i reinstalled tools, reran the setup script and still no autofit | 21:48 |
poptisse | Wizard my bad got it working | 21:48 |
Wizard | dunno, i boycott vmware | 21:48 |
Wizard | command or vpn? | 21:49 |
poptisse | Ok terminal has installed it what next | 21:49 |
poptisse | the command i got working | 21:49 |
Wizard | click network menu, select vpn, add connection | 21:49 |
Wizard | click import, choose file, done | 21:50 |
Wizard | if it fails, you can allways use ovpn client from termina; | 21:50 |
poptisse | so | 21:50 |
poptisse | network connections - vpn - import? | 21:50 |
poptisse | ok done that | 21:52 |
Wizard | 3:1 | 21:52 |
poptisse | it says it failed because of no valid vpn secrets? | 21:53 |
Wizard | hmm | 21:53 |
Wizard | sorry, poptisse, i'm really tired and sleepy :< | 21:53 |
poptisse | These are the exact files i have used for openvpn on windows | 21:53 |
poptisse | :( lol | 21:53 |
Aicasn | signing off. take care guys | 21:54 |
Aicasn | have a good weekend :) | 21:54 |
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