[01:31] God I installed ubuntu 11.04, my god i will never make that mistake again [01:31] thanks for making this! [01:32] seems like a bad night for most people to be connected... :) [05:46] Hey, so there is a little doc at the bottom.. anyway to get that off? [06:14] hi, back with the unsolved problem from yesterday, help anyone? [06:18] using natty, and since 2 days ago, can't log in to my original account, stuck in a login loop [06:51] Hello. [08:53] my taskbar isn't showing up? [09:04] can i install global menus in xubuntu? [09:17] could somebody help me with my error please [09:17] http://pastebin.com/T9txwZVQ [09:39] can i install global menus in xubuntu? [13:57] Hello [13:58] Is it possible to use fai-server for xubuntu installation ? === FusionX is now known as sygeek === sygeek is now known as mcbc === mcbc is now known as FusionX [16:42] hey, i have a small problem - when i had xubuntu 10.10 all's work, but now i have the latest version of this linux... ;-) [16:43] when i plug my mobil phone (nokia e51) to laptop by usb cable and i choose a 'transfer media', linux coudn't open memory card from this phone... [16:44] error is: (i try to translate it, because i have other language, no english) [16:44] "it isn't possible to open catalog BC3D-C910" [16:45] "Error of input/output" [16:45] any solve of this problem? ;-) [16:53] what's the point of the LTS line of ubuntus? are they supposedly more stable? i get that they offer "long-term support" but don't users have support by staying updated anyway? [16:53] yes, but normal releases are supported for 18 months, LTS is supported on desktop for 3 years, server for 5 years [16:54] For those not wanting to upgrade every release, LTS offers a lot of stability for a longer time [16:54] and there's nothing more to it other than not having to upgrade as often to maintain support? [17:00] i wonder what the demographics look like for LTS users...? my guess is that it would be more popular in business environments vs. power-user/developer/home-user machines [17:02] heh, most power users will upgrade every 6 months [17:02] This may be a stupid question: I recently installed Xubuntu 11.04, but unlike my other install, the "Aero-snap"-type features aren't working, and I can't find anywhere to enable them in the settings manager [17:03] what is "Aero-snap"? [17:03] when you drag a window to the top panel, for example, it will maximize [17:03] or to the left of the screen, it will take up half the screen by auto-resizing [17:04] it works like this in gnome3 [17:04] bleh. not a fan of that. don't like MS assuming that by moving a window up I want it to be maximized. if I wanted that, i would click the maximize button -.- [17:05] btw, where did you get then name from? [17:05] I'm mostly used to it by habit; but am I mistaken? isn't this supposed to be enabled by default in xubuntu? [17:05] that's what MS calls it, people sometimes recognize it by that name [17:05] That has never been in Xubuntu. [17:06] alright. my mistake! [17:06] thanks, adios [17:06] It is part of Unity, in Ubuntu [17:07] what do you guys think of Unity? does it feel more like Aero for people that a switching win7->ubuntu ? [17:07] *are [17:07] We don't use it [17:08] Unity is part of Ubuntu, not Xubuntu [17:08] i'm aware. figured some people have played with it [17:09] I have never used win7, and I have not used Unity enough to know if I like it, since Xubuntu is and has been my primary operating system since 2006 === emma is now known as em [17:39] Aicasn: i don't know how does unity look fcomparing to windows, i haven't used it for ages [17:41] but i've been using unity, it sucks [17:42] it is really really bad, bad designed, bad thought up, bad coded [17:43] it's bad for both experienced users and for newbies, for people used to windows 98, xp, 3.11, kde1, 2, 3 and 4 gnome 1 and 2 [17:44] every single person will miss some function or be annoyed by some bug [17:47] "it was an interesting experiment, yielding important user data to make our product better" [17:55] guess i'm not surprised. think unity will stay around for next ubuntu release? get cleaned up and such [18:06] Has anyone got any idea how i could get a xubuntu chroot environment to work from within maemo? [18:23] my guess is that unity and gnome 3 will coexist in oneiric, and mr shuttlewirth will ponder heavily on the preferred desktop for 12.04 [18:35] I am having an issue with restart X - i think i just broke xubuntu lol [18:41] can you provide some details, poptisse_? where does it fail? have you checked the logs? anything conspicuous in them? [18:44] Hi Aicasn [18:44] I just enabled ctrl alt backspace to restart X - as I had edited the xorg.conf to fix a screen tearing issue. I pressed ctrl alt backspace - everything went black and came back and all i can see is my desktop with two items i had on my desktop previously, I have no menu absolutely nothing so can't run terminal or any piece of software.... [18:44] press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and tell me if that gets you a terminal [18:45] Yes it turned my monitor into a terminal lol [18:45] log in and fix your xorg.conf [18:45] restore from backup if you made one [18:46] I don't think it is the xorg.conf which did it - i was simply following a tutorial which everyone else had no issues with [18:46] so cant see why it had affected me [18:47] i think it's very possible that your current xorg.conf is making X unhappy. if you have a backup I strongly suggest you try it [18:47] if not, change it back. no harm done [18:48] ok [18:48] I cant seem to be able to do that [18:48] Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display [18:48] :l [18:48] Soon as i do [18:48] gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:48] use nano, vi, joe, or emacs [18:49] you can't use apps that need X [18:49] :l [18:49] You've lost me [18:49] I literally installed xubuntu an hour ago [18:50] God all this to try and fix a screen tearing issue - makes me wanna go back to windows lol [18:50] Nothing seems to work for me at all.. [18:50] log in and type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:51] :P [18:51] ok [18:51] The line i entered was [18:51] Section "Extensions" [18:52] Option "composite" "disable" [18:52] EndSection [18:52] I got that off a tutorial - it seemed to work for everyone else with no issues like i had reported so a bit dumb founded [18:53] How do i save it lol [18:53] it says ^o for writeout but i dont know how to execute it [18:54] ^ is control [18:54] ok [18:54] says permission denied [18:54] ill log into root and try that way [18:54] or add sudo before nano [18:54] sudo is a better habbit to get into [18:55] ok [18:55] After this can you help with my screen tearing? [18:55] I have tried everything [18:55] configz or w.e its called does not work for me [18:55] I have nvidia drivers installed I have tried selecting all vynsyn etc [18:55] no luck [18:57] I have managed to write the file, we'll see if that fixed it [18:57] :D [18:58] Now to solve screen tearing :( [18:58] 2d or 3d tearing? [18:59] http://wildebeestplain.blogspot.com/2011/06/tearing-screen-even-with-vsyncing-on.html [18:59] um, Xubuntu doesn't have 2d/3d. It only has xfce, instead of unity with 2d/3d [18:59] Thats the tutorial i am following [18:59] To tell truth I am on ubuntu no one is helping on that channel so was told to come here [19:00] i see [19:00] It tears on videos and when moving windows etc - i have not tested gaming as i wont be gaming on it [19:01] The tutorial says to add this to the end of xorg.conf - Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection [19:01] I did that and that gave me the previous issue which is now fixed - but still screen tearing [19:05] where did you get your video drivers? [19:06] I tried directly from nvidia but that did not go so well [19:06] so i did the other way thru [19:06] hardware driver software [19:06] I just did a google search - and allot of forums say that works so i cant see why it wont work for me [19:06] :l [19:08] The addition driver software - is where i downloaded the nvidia drivers [19:10] You able to help me at all? [19:11] i'm looking for similar reports [19:11] what is your video card/chip? [19:11] Nvidia GTX 260 [19:11] This guy - http://wildebeestplain.blogspot.com/2011/06/tearing-screen-even-with-vsyncing-on.html has the exact same issues as me. [19:12] He even mentions how he fixed it - so i thought i would try that and it did not work just gave me the error u helped fix [19:13] are you certain there weren't any typos in the section you added? i'm reaching but I can't imagine why turning off composite would bork your 2d video [19:14] To the best of my knowledge no.. but than again I don't really know what am doing [19:14] How about if i send u my xorg.conf and u edit it and send it back via pastebin.com [19:14] and ill try that? [19:14] if you just added that section to the very end of the existing xorg.conf you should be fine [19:15] this time don't do c+a+backspace. just log out and back in again [19:15] ok two secs [19:15] *** make a backup!!!! [19:17] :l [19:17] produced the exact same issue [19:18] m'kay. i really don't know man. i might try the official nvidia drivers again [19:18] do you have a CRT monitor? [19:18] No [19:18] It's connected via HDMI [19:19] I have also tried connecting via vga [19:19] It's a samsung lcd [19:19] might check that the refresh rate is 60Hz. again, reaching [19:19] I can't get the official nvidia drivers installed [19:19] well [19:19] According to nvidia is it [19:19] *it is [19:19] why? [19:19] It says its 60Hz [19:20] I try using the runpackage and it gives me some weird X is running error crap [19:20] two secs ill re-produce it [19:22] Its an irritating issue because i cant be the only one and there has to be a fix surely [19:22] I might even offer a cash reward for fixing it ha ha [19:24] ok [19:24] You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. [19:25] Thats the issue - if i can get around that it would mean i can install the official drivers [19:26] hello, anyone uses pidgin by any chance? was able to update it? [19:28] Hello people of Xubuntu [19:28] I am seeking some help. [19:29] ok once i edit terminal via ctrl alt f2 and stop X how do i get back to desktop? [19:29] poptisse_: how did you stop X? [19:29] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [19:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 [19:30] I am following that [19:30] CDelia: please state your problem, all on one line, and if anyone knows an answer, they will respond [19:30] so sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ought to do it [19:30] if you have any nvidia packages install I would recommend removing them before installing the nvidia version [19:31] *website version [19:31] I just switched from ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 11.04. I have been looking all over for the keyboard shortcut manager so I can set up my window switcher, volume control, and application launcher keys. I found it earlier today when I was running Xubuntu through virtual box, but now that I installed it as my main operating system I have no idea where it is. [19:31] oh is this fucking kidding me!!! [19:32] !language | poptisse_ [19:32] poptisse_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [19:32] Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the services(8) utility, .e.g servide gdm stop [19:33] charlie-tca sorry i am having an issue with screen tearing and nothing seems to work not even turning on vysync [19:33] CDelia: either menu -> settings -> keyboard or menu -> settings -> appearance [19:33] okay so sudo service gdm stop [19:33] unknown instance [19:33] We still keep our language clean, even when we are getting frustrated. [19:34] Sorry, have you got any idea how it could be fixed? [19:34] poptisse_: ps ax | grep gdm is it running? [19:34] I can't remove packages under residual config in synaptic as the "apply" button does not work, how can remove those packages? is it ok if I use apt-get autoremove? [19:35] I don't, no. Aicasn seems to have some help, though [19:35] I don't use Ubuntu [19:35] Liv-: yes, that works, normally [19:36] aicasn no idea if it is running no idea what it is [19:36] should I do any backup just in case? [19:36] Charlie, I tried navigating to where you told me, but it is not showing me the options I am looking for to re-asign the different keyboard shortcuts. [19:37] poptisse_: what was the output of that command? [19:38] ps ax | grep gdm [19:38] Liv-: not needed. If the packages are still needed, a simple sudo apt-get install fixes it [19:38] CDelia: in Keyboard, application shortcuts are the shortcut keys for the system [19:39] poptisse_: if all you get back is the grep command (or nothing at all) then gdm has already been stopped [19:39] in Window Manager, Keyboard tab, are the shortcuts for the window manager (xfwm) [19:39] it just kept saying [19:39] basically it was not recognised [19:40] what was not recognized? [19:40] when i did [19:40] sudo service gdm stop [19:40] yay! [19:40] it did not do anythng [19:40] Thanks Charlie [19:40] do ps ax | grep gdm [19:40] ok two secs [19:40] thank you, charlie-tca [19:41] ok did that [19:42] It returned some lines some of it in red [19:42] I have a cat on my back [19:42] how many lines? [19:43] 7 [19:43] I cant copy and paste it as am talking to u via a windows 7 laptop lol [19:43] I don't understand, cat's just think oh look there is Chris, I am going to turn him into a couch by laying down on his back while he is laying down. [19:43] poptisse_: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm stop [19:43] CD - What they're actually doing is displaying they're dominant over you and they're in charge - dont let them lay on u or they wont ever stop it [19:44] lol [19:44] Its too late for that. [19:44] then feed one to your dog. the rest will get it [19:44] She is like 6 years old. Far set in her ways [19:44] gdm stop/waiting [19:45] poptisse_: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm status [19:45] lol CDelia [19:45] gdm stop/waiting [19:45] I think it has stopped lol [19:46] hit up arrow until you get back to the ps ax|grep gdm line then hit return [19:46] how many lines now? [19:46] ok two secs [19:46] 1 [19:46] grep --color=auto gdm? [19:47] 2037 tty2 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto gdm [19:47] good [19:47] now go sudo run your nvidia installer [19:48] follow the directions carefully. when it's done do /usr/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/service gdm start [19:48] good evening [19:48] hey wiz [19:50] what do i do now lol [19:50] just enter [19:50] sudo run [19:50] ? [19:50] or [19:50] sudo run your nvidia installer [19:50] the installer is on my desktop [19:51] I cant run it from the terminal [19:51] lol. sure you can [19:51] I have to go back to the desktop [19:51] well [19:51] the desktop is a folder in the filesystem [19:51] I gotta find out whats it called :l lol [19:51] Now aparently I need a bath. My cat is licking my head. [19:51] two secs [19:51] cd again dominant she is marking her teritory as she does not like the smell of u [19:51] lol [19:52] I guess so [19:52] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run [19:52] Its called that [19:52] so how do i make it run that [19:52] so let's find it. do find -type f -name "NVIDIA*" /home [19:53] ok [19:54] what are you doing? [19:54] giving poptisse_ some tips on CLI linux :) [19:54] paths must precede expression /homne [19:55] bah. find /home -type f -name "NVIDIA*" [19:55] Wizard - basically ubuntu 11.04 is a pile of BS and gives me awful screen tearing and no turning on vsync aint working [19:55] simples lol [19:55] it just gave me [19:55] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run [19:56] which i alreayd knew.... [19:56] lol [19:57] it didn't give you the path? [19:57] yeh [19:57] Desktop [19:57] type out the entire line please [19:58] ok /home/blackberry/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run [19:59] so do cd /home/blackberry/Desktop; chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run; sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-275.09.07.run [19:59] :l what on earth are u [19:59] some linux nerd lol [19:59] ok two secs [19:59] the ; mean separate commands. either type it with the smicolons or do each command separately [20:00] cd ... [20:00] chmod ... [20:00] sudo ... [20:01] dammit, i shouldn't stay here any longer [20:01] are we bothering you? [20:02] !language | Wizard [20:02] Wizard: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [20:02] no, i installed gnome3 for test and i really like it [20:02] charlie-tca: sorry again [20:02] You know those language police ;) [20:03] ok [20:03] picky picky picky. live in a police state. chat in a police state. it never ends.... [20:03] Thats that installed [20:03] now [20:03] root@blackberry:/home/blackberry/Desktop [20:03] what now lol [20:03] so /usr/sbin/service gdm start [20:04] and /usr/sbin/crossfingers [20:04] (^^^that was a joke) [20:05] ok [20:05] Back on the desktop - now do i test to see if its tearing still? [20:05] my Network Manager doesn't show DSL connection, can be this error resolved? [20:05] move a window [20:06] Tears like a mother-plucker still [20:06] try the xorg.conf modification again with the new drivers (backup first. it will have changed) [20:06] Strange i found a thread with my exact issues lol and they're alll saying 10.10 works perfectly lol [20:06] ok [20:06] How do i backup? lol [20:07] cd /etc/X11; sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup [20:07] again, can be separate commands [20:08] Aicasn - u able to pm for a sec i cant pm on the webchat irc client [20:10] took me to [20:10] blackberry@blackberry:etc/X11$ [20:10] take it that it backed up [20:11] ls -l xorg.conf* [20:11] do you see both the original and the backup copy? [20:12] yeh [20:12] ok now lets do that composite crap again [20:12] two secs [20:12] m'hmm [20:13] Originally Posted by Eromatic I've seen video tearing while only running under "Ubuntu Classic without Effects" & VDPAU. I had to follow the guide (Disabling the Composite Extension) at: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Dis...site_Extension ...as that corrected the issue with my 9500 GT & Video Driver 270.41.06-0ubuntu1. If intending to use Unity or Ubuntu Classic with Effects, you probably will not want to do this though... [20:13] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742643&page=2 [20:13] That is seeming to work now for everyone who has my issue [20:13] so [20:13] I am going to log out of ubuntu and log into ubuntu classic without effects [20:13] and run these commands [20:14] I pray to god this works for me [20:14] or am gonna die [20:14] :l [20:16] :o well i managed to do the composite [20:16] and restart x [20:16] without the whole error i had before [20:16] lets test this out [20:19] studies prove that praying have no influence on probability of success in any case [20:19] ok [20:19] :l [20:19] still screen tearing [20:19] BUT! [20:19] not as badly as it was before [20:19] i still say its broke [20:19] lol [20:19] 10.10 sounds like a good option ha ha [20:21] Thanks for all the help - like i said fixes it dramatically but still tears... [20:21] a bit [20:21] I am a perfectionist [20:26] i'm happy for you :) grats [20:29] Yeh it tears a little which it should not [20:29] but its not as bad as it was [20:29] so am happy [20:29] If it irritates me too much "it probs will" i can go to 10.10 [20:31] Everyone seems to complain that ubuntu 11.04 is not stable and is basically an alpha :l [20:32] I just wanted to stop using windows 7 as i had no real reason to use it and wanted to try out linux [20:32] ok [20:32] Wanna help with my next issue ? ha ha "being serious" [20:33] please deposit 25c [20:33] sure [20:33] i'm from central europe, i'm cheaper ;P [20:33] Basically [20:33] I have two montiors [20:33] my samsung which is infront of me [20:33] xrandr is your friend [20:33] connected via hdmi [20:33] and the other vga [20:34] the VGA monitor which is mounted seems to be the primary [20:34] where i want my samsung to be primary [20:34] hmm [20:34] i would recomment installing lxrandr [20:34] ok [20:34] wait... [20:35] i dont want it to tear my screen [20:35] i would kill u literally [20:35] no no, don't worry [20:35] it's driver independent [20:35] it operates on different xorg layer :D [20:35] better fucking do [20:36] sorry it has took me literally 14hrs to fix it lol [20:36] rotfl :D [20:36] do you haqve lxrandr installed? [20:36] yeh [20:36] cant locate it [20:36] :l [20:37] I have installed it, but not sure what its under or called [20:37] alt+f2: lxrandr [20:37] :l [20:37] it displays a monitor of [20:37] 3280x1080 [20:38] which is my two monitors together [20:38] and a refresh rate of 50 [20:38] :l [20:38] great [20:38] :S [20:38] nvidia? [20:38] FFS! [20:38] Yes [20:38] I have nvidia [20:38] :( [20:38] ok, so i have no clues for you [20:39] there is some nvidia specific tool, nvidia-settings or something like this [20:39] :l [20:39] brb [20:39] it allows monitor settings too, but it of course does not understand xrandr [20:39] gonna go on my ubuntu machine on irc two secs [20:39] * Aicasn cheers @ poptisse_ [20:51] correct channel? [20:52] si [20:52]