[02:37] <cpatrick008> i know your are getting 4.6.90 ready for oneiric but why you wait for it to get ready i think since you have 4.6.4 already in natty you should put 4.6.4 in oneiric so it is as up to date as it can be
[07:10] <markey> heya
[07:10] <markey> are there any plans to ship a fixed Nvidia driver for Natty?
[07:10] <markey> the default one has the infamous freeze-on-konsole-resize
[08:38] <bambee> hey!
[08:41] <Quintasan> \o
[08:41] <apachelogger> markey: as in porprietary nvidia?
[08:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Yes
[08:42] <Quintasan> proprietary one has the freeze-on-rezise bug
[08:42] <apachelogger> I find that unlikely
[08:42] <apachelogger> (to get a fix)
[08:43] <apachelogger> markey: #ubuntu-x is where to ask though
[08:43] <apachelogger> traditionally they do not update binary blob though
[08:44] <apachelogger> except for like 2 cases where ABI was not fixed in time and one security release or something like that
[08:54] <markey> apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/760632
[08:56] <markey> seems like pushing the new driver would fix it
[08:59] <apachelogger> markey: you'll have to ask the people in #ubuntu-x nicely 
[08:59] <markey> can I ask in my usual rude fashion?
[09:00] <markey> cause that is one major blunder that should never have passed any testing
[09:00] <apachelogger> supposedly you can
[09:00] <markey> ok some of the idiots should be fired
[09:00] <apachelogger> whether it helps is a different question though ^^
[09:01] <markey> it breaks kubuntu and ubuntu on many platforms. if I were their boss, I'd be fairly upset
[10:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan, persia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard I added all I know about the EGL issue at the bottom of the page
[10:02]  * Quintasan looks
[10:03] <Quintasan> Meh
[10:04] <Quintasan> This sure sucks.
[10:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: And we can't possibly do anything about this?
[10:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can you try that one -> https://github.com/genesi/xorg-video-imx ?
[10:07] <apachelogger> well
[10:07] <apachelogger> I have no idea how to debug it proper
[10:07] <apachelogger> in particular it would be good to know why the egl init fails
[10:11] <apachelogger> imx_drv.c:114:2: error: 'PACKAGE_VERSION_MAJOR' undeclared here (not in a function)
[10:11] <apachelogger> imx_drv.c:114:2: error: 'PACKAGE_VERSION_MINOR' undeclared here (not in a function)
[10:11] <apachelogger> imx_drv.c:114:2: error: 'PACKAGE_VERSION_PATCHLEVEL' undeclared here (not in a function)
[10:11] <apachelogger> all hail the autotools
[10:14] <apachelogger> Quintasan: kaputness remains with the gitty clone
[10:23] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Hmmm, back to nothing I guess
[10:23]  * Quintasan looks for a USB drive and purges the hell out of the card
[11:42] <shadeslayer_> \o
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> there was a new soprano release btw
[11:43] <shadeslayer_> anyone working on that?
[12:18]  * apachelogger really thinks that pbuilder is pretty crapzy
[12:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: I'd argue that getting flipping 4.6.90 done is more important than package a new soprano that might not be needed right now
[12:29] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: but upstream advises to use new soprano for KDE 4.6.90
[12:29] <shadeslayer_> which is why i've packaged it
[12:31] <shadeslayer_> oh did i mention that i can't access most kde sites including but not limited to ftpmaster :P
[12:49] <apachelogger> seeing as we do not have a .90 I doubt a usage advise holds much value
[12:58] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632342/ << can you review this ?
[12:58] <shadeslayer_> huh ... where did those weird chars come from
[12:59] <apachelogger> I do not believe that is valid dep5
[12:59] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: whats the issue?
[13:00] <apachelogger> well the whole markup is wrong
[13:00] <shadeslayer_> i was following the complex example from : http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/#index7h1
[13:00] <apachelogger> yeah, so, why does yours look different?
[13:01] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: uh ... it doesn't ?
[13:02] <apachelogger> ...
[13:02] <apachelogger> if you use dep5 then read the spec
[13:03] <shadeslayer_> i did, but it seems i missed something
[13:04] <apachelogger> right
[13:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: what is formatted text in the context of this spec?
[13:06] <shadeslayer_> you mean, its description is missing?
[13:07] <shadeslayer_> right after upstream author?
[13:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Question: Why are you bothering with it being dep5?
[13:08] <shadeslayer_> i shouldn't ?
[13:08] <Quintasan> We will merge with Debian at some point in time
[13:09] <shadeslayer_> hmm
[13:09] <Quintasan> If Debian will make it dep5 then we will use it, if they don't then what we do?
[13:09] <shadeslayer_> so, not worth the extra effort?
[13:09] <shadeslayer_> alright then
[13:09] <Quintasan> IMO? Not really.
[13:10] <shadeslayer_> ok
[13:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: read the spec
[13:10] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: yeah will spend more time on it
[13:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: we might as well upstream our copyright file ;)
[13:11] <shadeslayer_> ^^ why i was doing it
[13:11] <Quintasan> Are you actually implying that they might take it?
[13:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: also in favor of dep5: it is much more readable than the other non-specified mumbo jumbo ou there
[13:11] <shadeslayer_> well depends on you guys now, do you want me to finish off kate or spend more time on dep 5 :P
[13:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well, they already do dep5like stuff all over the place IIRC
[13:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: right now your debian/copyright is invalid.
[13:12] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: yeah, i'm fixing it
[13:12] <shadeslayer_> well best to go the dep 5 way
[13:14] <shadeslayer_> i also need another example from KDE packaging, know of any package which is dep 5?
[13:15] <apachelogger> why do you need an example?
[13:15] <apachelogger> there is one on the dep5 spec
[13:15] <apachelogger> well
[13:15] <apachelogger> >one actually ^^
[13:17] <shadeslayer_> ok, i'll spend more time reading the spec then
[13:24]  * debfx prefers kernel-like copyright files
[13:24] <debfx> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.39-2/copyright
[13:36] <CIA-52> [oxygen-icons] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625123621-gtnwbmwcurz68xj8 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[13:37] <apachelogger> yofel: so, we are using the non-monolithic tars?
[13:41] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: btw can you give me the ftp link to kdevelop? i can't access ftp.kde.org
[13:42] <apachelogger> why kdev now?
[13:42] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: new bug fix release
[13:42] <shadeslayer_> i can build it while i read on dep 5
[13:42] <apachelogger> wgrant: can a launchpad project be renamed pathwise?
[13:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: couldn't you build another 4.6.90 thing too? :O
[13:43] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: sure, but then i'll have to fix the copyright and other things for that too
[13:44] <apachelogger> by which time you will have everything built and dep5 read so everything is faster
[13:44] <apachelogger> woohooo
[13:44] <apachelogger> sounds like an awesome idea to me
[13:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: where do you have the project-neon kde-runtime import?
[13:45] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/RecipeStatus << bookmark eet :P
[13:45] <apachelogger> my dear friend
[13:45] <apachelogger> I am uploading oxygen-icons right now
[13:45] <apachelogger> my irc is lagging seconds
[13:45] <shadeslayer_> hahaha :D
[13:45] <apachelogger> do you really think I could use the silly old wiki
[13:46] <shadeslayer_> https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kdebase/kde-runtime || bzr branch lp:~neon/kdebase/kde-runtime
[13:46] <shadeslayer_> whichever you prefer
[13:46] <apachelogger> both sounds bogus as kdebase is not the project :S
[13:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: did you move kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts for the renaming or create a new project?
[13:46]  * apachelogger wonders what to do with kdebase-runtime
[13:47] <shadeslayer_> iirc kde-runtime is listed under base
[13:47] <shadeslayer_> can't check since projects.kde.org is down for me
[13:48] <apachelogger> well, we could not replicate this on a launchpad level I suppose
[13:48] <apachelogger> would make scripting a bit of a PITA
[13:48] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[13:48] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: iirc i created a new project
[13:49] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-web-shortcuts
[13:49] <apachelogger> I thought you wished for a rename and acke'd it
[13:49] <apachelogger> *I ack'd it
[13:49] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: ah yes, there's that lp bug
[13:49] <shadeslayer_> but iirc txwikinger was supposed to fix another meta package which had a rdepends on k-k-s
[13:50] <apachelogger> and jjesse
[13:50] <apachelogger> so
[13:50] <apachelogger> how do we do the launchpad project setup
[13:50] <apachelogger> we cannot do kdebase/kde-runtime/ubuntu
[13:50] <apachelogger> which would really be most appropriate, even if a scripting pain
[13:51] <apachelogger> then again on git they are all flat anyway, right?
[13:51] <apachelogger> so from a branch POV kdebase/kde-runtime might be bogus
[13:52] <apachelogger> yofel: pling pling
[13:58] <apachelogger> debfx: ping
[14:04] <shadeslayer_> so like
[14:04] <shadeslayer_> nvm
[15:03] <shadeslayer_> question, in dep 5 will  [LICENSE TEXT] automatically replace "[LICENSE TEXT]" with the corresponding license text?
[15:03] <shadeslayer_> or does [LICENSE TEXT] mean i have to paste the license text there
[15:05] <shadeslayer_> from what i understand its the former, but i still need a bit of clarification
[15:11] <shadeslayer_> i also found this btw http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/cdbs.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/licensecheck2dep5;hb=HEAD
[15:16] <shadeslayer_> ^^ pretty much kaput
[16:25] <skfin> Hmm
[16:26] <skfin> does default kubuntu provide glib python-dbus mainloop or does it ship only Qt mainloop
[16:27] <skfin> i dont have a pure kubuntu installion to test
[16:29] <skfin> could somebody test?
[16:30] <skfin> from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop
[16:30] <skfin> in python shell
[16:31] <yofel> apachelogger: pong
[16:31] <yofel> I would say use a new project? If there is already one discuss it with the launchpad folks
[16:32] <skfin> because qtmainloop needs pyqt4
[16:32] <skfin> and nobody gnome or other user dont want it
[17:19] <apachelogger> yofel: well, it is a general question of kubuntu really
[17:19] <apachelogger> do we create new projects or migrate old ones where possible
[17:19] <apachelogger> so 
[17:20] <apachelogger> you know that issue where dput fails all over the place just to annoy you
[17:20] <apachelogger> it happend with oxygen-icons
[17:20] <apachelogger> o/
[17:20] <apachelogger> all hail the fail
[17:20] <apachelogger> \o/
[17:20] <apachelogger> \o
[17:20] <apachelogger> g
[17:20] <yofel> true, but I have no idea how to rename projects. -> #launchpad
[17:21] <apachelogger> well yeah
[17:21] <apachelogger> just need to file a question
[17:21] <apachelogger> but first I should know if that is the path to take :P
[17:21] <yofel> maxb did move an obsolete project out of the way so I could set up okular, so *someone* can rename them
[17:21] <yofel> for kdebase I don't see why not, it really is  just a rename
[17:23] <shadeslayer_> yofel: you're familiar with dep 5 right?
[17:23] <yofel> well, in the I read the spec sense
[17:24] <shadeslayer_> yofel: the part in the spec where it says  [LICENSE TEXT]
[17:24] <shadeslayer_> does it mean i have to substitute the license text? or does it do that automagically
[17:25] <yofel> you need to substitute it afaik
[17:25] <shadeslayer_> hmm ..then why would it say  [LICENSE TEXT] at one point but substitute the actual license text in the same language later on
[17:26] <shadeslayer_> erm
[17:26] <shadeslayer_> s/language/example/
[17:26] <kubotu> shadeslayer_: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[17:26] <shadeslayer_> ( i have no idea why i said language .... @_@ )
[17:28] <yofel> good question, ask the debian folks :P
[17:29] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> yofel: its suppossed to be replaced with actual license text
[19:35] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[19:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: ping
[19:36]  * bambee is red, he got a lot of sunburnt
[19:36] <yofel> ?
[19:36] <apachelogger> bambee: /nick drzoidberg
[19:36] <bambee> apachelogger: ?
[19:36] <apachelogger> yofel: what exactly is the plan WRT renaming?
[19:37] <apachelogger> kdebase-runtime does the source become kde-runtime? do the binaries become kde-runtime-*? 
[19:37] <apachelogger> etc. etc.
[19:37] <apachelogger> bambee: if you are red like a lobster you better change your nick to reflect that ;)
[19:37] <bambee> ahahaha
[19:37] <bambee> :)
[19:38] <yofel> rename both source and binaries
[19:44] <apachelogger> yofel: with breaks replaces?
[19:45] <yofel> ofc, or we'll get a mess. Keep any binary name that doesn't have kdebase-runtime in it though
[19:56] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632524/ << still has issues? 
[19:56] <apachelogger> still not valid
[19:56] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: whats the exact issue?
[19:56] <shadeslayer__> from what i can see, i'm doing it right
[19:58] <apachelogger> well
[19:58] <apachelogger> following my question from earlier, that you apparently did not investigate further...
[19:59] <apachelogger> dep5 defiens formatted text fields as such:
[19:59] <apachelogger> "Formatted text fields use the same rules as the long description in a package’s Description field, possibly also using the first line as a synopsis, like Description uses it for the short description. See section 5.6.13, “Description”, at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Description for details. For example, Disclaimer has no special first line, whereas License does."
[19:59] <apachelogger> reading on the license field is defined as:
[19:59] <apachelogger> "License
[19:59] <apachelogger> Optional
[19:59] <apachelogger> Syntax: formatted text, with synopsis
[19:59] <apachelogger> In the header paragraph (no Files specification), this field gives the license information for the package as a whole, which may be different or simplified from a combination of all the per-file license information. See also License below in the Files paragraph section."
[19:59] <apachelogger> License: LGPL-2
[19:59] <apachelogger>   This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
[19:59] <apachelogger>   modify it under the terms of the GNU Library General Public
[19:59] <apachelogger>   License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
[19:59] <apachelogger>   version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
[19:59] <apachelogger>   This library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
[19:59] <apachelogger>   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
[19:59] <apachelogger>   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
[20:00] <apachelogger>   Library General Public License for more details.
[20:00] <KRF> apachelogger++
[20:00] <apachelogger> since those are 2 paras the only valid way to represent them as such is a period
[20:00] <apachelogger> additionally all of the pludner should be indented by ONE whitespace
[20:00] <apachelogger> ALSO the period
[20:01] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632572/ << period like this?
[20:01] <apachelogger> dude
[20:01] <apachelogger> just write them fields like a debian/control field if you are not willing to read the spec
[20:01] <apachelogger> srsly
[20:02] <apachelogger> The lines in the extended description can have these formats:
[20:03] <apachelogger> * Those starting with a single space are part of a paragraph. Successive lines of this form will be word-wrapped when displayed. The leading space will usually be stripped off.
[20:03] <apachelogger> * Those starting with two or more spaces. These will be displayed verbatim. If the display cannot be panned horizontally, the displaying program will line wrap them "hard" (i.e., without taking account of word breaks). If it can they will be allowed to trail off to the right. None, one or two initial spaces may be deleted, but the number of spaces deleted from each line will be the same (so that you can have indenting work correctly, for 
[20:03] <apachelogger> example).
[20:03] <apachelogger> * Those containing a single space followed by a single full stop character. These are rendered as blank lines. This is the only way to get a blank line[39].
[20:03] <apachelogger> * Those containing a space, a full stop and some more characters. These are for future expansion. Do not use them.
[20:03] <apachelogger> Do not use tab characters. Their effect is not predictable.
[20:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: pong
[20:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: yofel answered my question already
[20:04] <ScottK> OK
[20:04] <apachelogger> apparently kdebase-runtime is becoming kde-runtime all around
[20:04] <ScottK> Yep
[20:05] <ScottK> BTW, I think DEP 5 is a PITA not worth bothering about.
[20:05] <apachelogger> ack
[20:06] <shadeslayer__> ok scrap it then, i'm only getting even more confused
[20:06]  * apachelogger finds debian/copyright in general a PITA and not worth bothering about though :P
[20:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer__: then make it not invalid
[20:06] <shadeslayer__> ^^ that is so true
[20:07] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: yeah, i'm going with whatever format we have for kde4libs
[20:07] <apachelogger> not necessarily necessary though eventually useful
[20:09] <apachelogger> uhhh
[20:09] <apachelogger> knetattach needs love
[20:36] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625193604-ruxklif77diwfbba * debian/ (15 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release * Refresh: - kubuntu_oxygenify_knetattach_icon.diff - kubuntu_phonon_forget_option.diff
[20:37] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625193743-bfoycnjrbijl23c3 * debian/ (changelog control) merge
[20:51] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625195125-d3vvaq2p9eou7a1d * debian/changelog fix entry
[20:55] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625195534-plsa4ojs9kygk636 * debian/control Build depend on libqtwebkit-dev
[21:01] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625200136-peohl06equjtijew * debian/control fix markup
[21:02] <shadeslayer__> aaaaannnnn done : http://paste.ubuntu.com/632601/
[21:03] <shadeslayer__> s/aaaaannnnn/aaaaannnnndddd
[21:12] <CIA-52> [kdebase-runtime] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110625201229-9z0g9q6y72ba305k * debian/ (kde-runtime-data.install kde-runtime.install not-installed) update files
[21:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer__:     + part/script/data/lilypond.js
[21:17] <apachelogger>     + part/tests/completion_test.cpp
[21:17] <apachelogger>     + tests/completion_test.h
[21:17] <apachelogger> what is with the +?
[21:17] <shadeslayer__> yeah, have to clean that up a bit
[21:17] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: also, i just realized i'm missing authors for those files
[21:18] <shadeslayer__> can i say i hate copyright files
[21:18] <apachelogger> bulldog98: not helping with 4.6.90?
[21:19] <bambee> which packages installs kdeclarative.h ?
[21:19] <shadeslayer__> !find kdeclarative.h
[21:19] <apachelogger> none
[21:19] <apachelogger> it is in kdelibs-experimental
[21:19] <apachelogger> not even sure we package that
[21:19] <shadeslayer__> indeed
[21:19] <apachelogger> probably not
[21:19] <apachelogger> as it is experimental ^^
[21:19] <shadeslayer__> ^^ :P
[21:19] <bambee> so kde-workspace depends on kdelibs-experimental...
[21:20] <apachelogger> fun
[21:20] <apachelogger> so we probably need to package it
[21:20] <bambee> build failure "kdeclarative.h : not found"
[21:20] <shadeslayer__> oh yes
[21:20] <apachelogger> /home/me/src/git/k/kdelibs/experimental/libkdeclarative/kdeclarative.h
[21:20] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: iirc this was on the plasma ML
[21:20] <shadeslayer__> that workspace depends on kdelibs experimental
[21:22] <shadeslayer__> bwhahaha
[21:22] <shadeslayer__> can't open mail.kde.org @_@
[21:23] <apachelogger> hm
[21:23] <shadeslayer__> ok so it was decided to statically include required libraries in libplasma
[21:23] <apachelogger> bambee: poke notmart
[21:23] <shadeslayer__> or plasma-devel ML
[21:23] <apachelogger> he should have fixed that like first week of june or so
[21:24] <bambee> apachelogger: ?
[21:24] <apachelogger> the linking against experimental is a policy violation of sorts
[21:24] <apachelogger> if it is linking against it
[21:24] <apachelogger> at any rate notmart is the person to talk to 
[21:24] <apachelogger> #plasma
[21:25] <bambee> ok
[21:25] <bambee> thanks
[21:25] <bambee> arrf... he is offline 
[21:26] <shadeslayer__> could someone check if kde-baseapps has kwrite?
[21:29] <shadeslayer__> nvm
[21:33] <afiestas> shadeslayer__: it doesn't
[21:33] <afiestas> kwrite is in a different repo iirc
[21:35] <shadeslayer__> well .. it's in kate
[21:35] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: i can't connect to projects.kde.org so i have to route traffic via a proxy site
[21:36] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: oh, bluedevil question, is it possible to bypass the bluedevil wizard and call my own KAssistantDialog ?
[21:39]  * apachelogger fails to compute that question and decides to go to bed
[21:40] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: nini
[21:44] <afiestas> shadeslayer__: bypass?
[21:45] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: well ... like instead of using the Bluedevil wizard, i have my own wizard
[21:45] <shadeslayer__> custom made for my app
[21:45] <bambee> apachelogger: apparently only plasma/generic/tools/remote-widgets-browser uses kdedeclarative. Until it's fixed on  upstream we could probably disable it... no?
[21:46]  * ScottK thinks he may have Qt on armel figured out.
[21:46] <afiestas> shadeslayer__: use libbluedevil then
[21:47] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: ah ok
[21:49] <shadeslayer__> could someone review this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/632630/
[21:50] <apachelogger> bambee: perhaps
[21:50] <shadeslayer__> kate -> licensing hell
[21:52] <afiestas> shadeslayer__: report it please
[21:52] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: report what? 
[21:52] <afiestas> some time we don't care about these things... 
[21:52] <afiestas> the licencing mess, some times it is unintended
[21:52] <shadeslayer__> afiestas: i'm merely saying that there are a mixture of licenses all over kate :P
[21:53] <afiestas> and I'm merely saying that if you find it a problem or you feel that it could be amistake, report it
[21:53] <afiestas> since some times we don't care enough about that things
[21:54] <bulldog98> apachelogger: acctually I’m watching TV atm but tomorrow I’ve got time
[21:57] <apachelogger> afiestas: it is more of a problem with shadeslayer__ being lazy :P
[21:58] <shadeslayer__> i'm not lazy anymore
[22:03] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: you're being lazy with your talk of sleep :P
[22:03] <apachelogger> well, I finished 2.5 packages today, and you :P
[22:03] <apachelogger> also I am not in bed apparently
[22:04] <shadeslayer__> you got the easy ones without copyright issues :P
[22:05] <apachelogger> issues?
[22:05] <apachelogger> as far as I am concerned you could just have extracted the relevant portions from kdesdk/debian/copyright
[22:05] <shadeslayer__> couldn't find a better word
[22:05] <shadeslayer__> apachelogger: i did, but it was pretty outdated and didn't have loads of stuff
[22:06] <apachelogger> excuses over excuses :P
[22:06] <shadeslayer__> like other used licenses
[22:07] <shadeslayer__> also, libkipi is done, and i just need to fix the copyright file in that too
[22:08] <shadeslayer__> ^^ can't take copyright stuff from kdegraphics in this case
[22:09] <apachelogger> like building a copyright file takes a day
[22:10] <shadeslayer__> i like to take my time and go over stuff and make sure i don't mess it up
[22:27] <ScottK> At least exams are the excuse.
[22:27] <ScottK> are/aren't
[22:32]  * shadeslayer__ just made a huge jump in his GSoC project
[22:35] <yofel> now smokeqt is fun from a licensing point of view:http://paste.kde.org/87715
[22:36] <yofel> erm...
[22:36]  * shadeslayer__ can't see any more licenses today
[22:36] <ScottK> Qt uploaded again.
[22:36] <yofel> I'll talk to dpalacio when I see him, he didn't fill out the copyright file there yet
[22:37] <yofel> shadeslayer__: the licensing for smokeqt is fun. Well, the missing one rather...
[22:37] <shadeslayer__> ah 
[22:38] <yofel> none of the files have any copyright...
[22:38]  * shadeslayer__ just did a entire PIM sync via dbus \\o/
[22:38] <yofel> cool ^^
[22:38] <shadeslayer__> yofel: yeah, all of my contacts are now sync'd with google
[22:38] <yofel> <3
[22:38] <shadeslayer__> now to figure out the correct keys to write a config
[22:39] <shadeslayer__> i still have to write configs by the command line tool
[22:39] <yofel> meh, what am I supposed to set as license on LP for the smokeqt project if there is no license...
[22:40]  * yofel chooses I don't know yet
[22:43] <ScottK> yofel: IIRC you just pick some random, but Free license and it doesn't matter.
[22:46] <yofel> well, I uploaded smokeqt to ninjas for now so we can continue to work, I'll put a note on the wiki re copyright
[23:44] <Linkmaster> I'm just going to leave this for you guys to think about: "When a programming language is created that allows programmers to program in simple English, it will be discovered that programmers cannot speak English. -unknown"
[23:47] <tsimpson> there is a natural english-language programming language "out there", someone using it to program robots...
[23:49] <Linkmaster> Hm, I deem that I'm incorrect then. Good thing I didn't make the quote up