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ubuntuuk-planet[Tony] As It Occurred To Him - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/06/24/as-it-occurred-to-him/01:07
kaushalHi07:32
kaushalCan someone please guide me to understand memtest86 ?07:32
MartijnVdSkaushal: what's there to understand?07:47
MartijnVdSkaushal: if it shows lots of errors, your memory (or memory controller) is bad07:47
MartijnVdSif it doesn't it's probably good07:47
AlanBellmorning all08:05
Myrttikaushal: run it overnight, if it doesnt show errors, your rig is probably ok08:17
Myrttikaushal: overnight ~= several passes08:17
popeyMorning all08:38
MartijnVdS\o popey08:39
MartijnVdShow's things on your side of the sea?08:39
popeyoddly my desktop dropped off the network just now08:43
safiyyahgot errors again!08:43
safiyyahmorning all08:44
MartijnVdSpopey: hmm.. oneiric? :)08:44
popeyno08:44
safiyyahthe fsck command to find errors08:44
MartijnVdSI'm running Oneiric on my desktop.. it's.. flaky08:44
safiyyahI think I am entering it wrong08:44
safiyyahisn't it sudo fsck -l?08:44
popeyheh08:44
popeyrebooting modem has fix0r3d it08:45
MartijnVdSstränge08:45
safiyyahguys?08:45
MartijnVdSsafiyyah: Why are you running fsck by hand?08:45
safiyyahi am on live disk08:47
MartijnVdSsafiyyah: you can do filesystem checks using a graphical tool, so you don't have to remember the command line :)08:48
safiyyahi got the samekernel panic error I has last week08:48
MartijnVdSsafiyyah: System -> Administration -> Disk utility, or start "palimpsest"08:48
safiyyahokay, right, we tried all that last week and none of them worked08:48
safiyyahthe only thing that worked was a fedora live disk08:48
safiyyahand the fsck command08:48
safiyyahwhich I forgot to write down in my notepad08:49
safiyyahwould you be kind enough to give me the command?08:49
MartijnVdSman fsck08:50
AlanBellcan't see a -l flag08:52
AlanBellfsck /dev/sda1 is I guess the most likely way to call it08:52
safiyyahAlanBell I was just about to say the same thing08:52
safiyyahthanx AlanBell08:53
AlanBellhowever all the GUI tool will do is call that command in the background08:54
* AlanBell hugs czajkowski 09:29
czajkowskiAlanBell: *hugs*09:57
czajkowskiwhat I do....09:57
AlanBellnothing really10:09
brobostigongood morning everyone.11:24
bigcalm[mob]Morning peeps11:35
bigcalm[mob]That is if there are any peeps awake in here :)11:36
brobostigonmorning bigcalm[mob] :)11:37
bigcalm[mob]Life indeed11:38
bigcalm[mob]Bored in a barber shop queue11:38
bigcalm[mob]What brings you to irc on a Saturday?11:40
brobostigonbigcalm[mob]: my byobu session on my vps, really.11:40
bigcalm[mob]Hehe11:40
bigcalm[mob]Other than that? A busy day?11:41
brobostigonpottering around really.11:41
MartijnVdSbigcalm[mob]: you're in the mob now?11:44
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS :)11:45
MartijnVdS\o11:46
brobostigono/11:46
* MartijnVdS is trying to figure out a way to light LEGO for photos11:46
MartijnVdSdaylight is unreliable11:46
popeycoal and sticks ☺11:47
bigcalm[mob]MartijnVdS: irc from my mob11:47
MartijnVdSpopey: Good idea, except I want to prevent burning (part of) my house, if at all possible11:48
bigcalm[mob]MartijnVdS: make it out of cobblestone the11:48
bigcalm[mob]Then11:48
bigcalm[mob]Bloody phone keyboard is a paid11:49
MartijnVdSit's a-paid :P11:49
MartijnVdSBunch of minecrafters. Should have known... :)11:49
bigcalm[mob]See?11:49
bigcalm[mob]Is there any other way of life?11:50
MartijnVdSI was actually thinking of using these: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=gr&ctn=6913255PH11:52
MartijnVdSthey give off a boatload of light11:52
MartijnVdSall I need now is a way to hold them while I work the camera11:52
bigcalm[mob]Duct tape, glue gun and staple gun11:55
sohaibHey guys, I have shared two folders on network via samba now the problem is whenever I restart my host, I need to configure the sharing via samba again. Is there any way to make it permanent?12:19
phonex01Im using facebook chat using Pidgin XMPP and everything is ok BUT how can i join group chat ??12:24
directhexdoes facebook use MUC for group chat? i don't know the answer to that12:43
Kartisohaib, I have a network drive that I just bookmark in Nautilus and have no problems when its down (although they have fixed IP addresses)12:56
BigRedSsohaib: is hte problem that the server stops sharing hte file, or that the client stops connecting to it?12:57
JGJonesI have to love Google for doing this - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=google-youtube-auto-caption13:01
BigRedSoh, awesome13:10
sohaibBigRedS: whenever server restarts client is unable to access the shared stuff.13:22
StevenRhrrm. what's "mumble" (in the context of team meetings)13:25
MartijnVdSStevenR: it's "voice IRC"13:26
MartijnVdSStevenR: multiplayer voice-chat13:26
StevenRahhh13:26
StevenRthanks :)13:27
popeyDear GTK people13:29
popeyhttp://static.arstechnica.com/1010review/Screenshot-Install.png13:30
popeywhat are the GTK elements on that page that have ticks in them13:30
popeyI want to do something similar, showing status of something in an app13:30
MartijnVdSpopey: checkboxes?13:30
popeyno, the things above13:30
popeywith the ticks in them13:30
popeygreen13:30
MartijnVdSpopey: they're probably custom thingys13:30
MartijnVdSpopey: you'll have to look at the installer source to check13:31
popeyah13:31
popeyyeah, i grabbed the source, and tried to open the .ui file in glade13:31
popeybut it barfed13:31
MartijnVdSgrep for the text next to it13:31
popeyFailed to load /home/alan/Development/ubiquity-2.6.10/gui/gtk/stepPrepare.ui.13:31
popeyThe following required catalogues are unavailable: gtkwidgets13:31
popeyok13:32
MartijnVdS...13:32
popeyubiquity/gtkwidgets.py:               'that you are plugged in to a power source',13:33
MartijnVdS"StateBox"13:33
MartijnVdS(in Oneiric)13:33
MartijnVdSubiquity/gtkwidgets.p -> class StateBox13:34
popeyhmm13:34
popeyI'd rather use standard stuff13:34
* popey wonders how else to render this13:34
* popey makes some boxes13:34
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danfishafternoon a;;14:36
danfishoops s/a;;/all14:36
danfishI just mounted an S3 bucket under fuse and run "df -H"14:37
brobostigonafternoonings danfish :)14:37
danfishs3fs      282T      0   282T   0% /mnt/s314:37
danfishbrobostigon: o/14:37
danfishI think that's enough backup space ;)14:37
brobostigonyes :)14:38
danfishhow's is going brobostigon?14:39
brobostigondanfish: not bad, upand down, and interesting experiences and information. and you?14:40
danfishmuch the same really14:40
brobostigon:)14:41
danfishmain problem is not enough time in the day14:42
brobostigon:(14:42
brobostigoni need more useful time,where  mymind isnt destracted.14:43
brobostigonwith more importent things, and focus on less importent things.14:43
shaunough.  why do work have to block 22.  making my morning a lot more difficult than it should be15:26
popeyheh15:43
popeyssh on 443 ftw15:43
shaunoyeah.  I do that for hosts I control15:43
shaunofor trying to restart my vps via bitfolk's xen shell, I'm kinda stuffed until I go home15:44
shaunousually if I really need 22, I jump off from this one.  doing that to restart this one would be problematic15:45
shaunoodd one that I want to run again to get a copy of the error.  they moved me from one machine to another.  the kernel I was using on the previous machine apparently didn't boot on this one16:01
shauno2.6.32-31-generic booted, -32-generic didn't.  be curious to know why  (stands to reason that if I was on this hardware originally, a kernel update would have rendered an unbootable system)16:02
BigRedSdifferent modules? depends on the definition of 'didn't boot'16:10
shaunothat's why I want to try it myself.  that's all the definition I got :)16:13
shauno"it didn't boot so we tried the next kernel in the list, which did"16:14
BigRedSahh16:23
jacobwhaa16:26
jacobw</partridge>16:26
Azelphurhaha this is so epic, it's like my server got slashdotted or something xD16:48
Azelphurgone from 4000 hits/day to 8000+hits/day, 60GB/day 6.5mbits avg to 140GB/day 13mbits avg \o/16:49
Azelphurgetting loads of donations, loads of adsense, so fun \o/16:49
shaunogood to know there's positives to the extra traffic.  free to play, not free to Azelphur :p16:50
Azelphurindeed16:50
AzelphurI'm actually going to make a profit this month if it keeps going like this16:50
shaunoscore16:50
AzelphurI have a feeling the email I'm going to get tonight informing me of players it's decided are regulars and thus invited them to the steam group is going to be epic too16:52
Azelphur(I run a magic gadget that detects if a player has been playing for more than 5 hours, and invites them to the steam group on the basis that they are probably interested / a regular)16:52
shaunoso maybe you won't have to sell a kidney to pay for your electricity bill now ;)16:52
Azelphurhaha16:53
MartijnVdSAzelphur: don't tell people you get adsense money, or Google'll drop you16:53
Azelphurwhy?16:54
MartijnVdSAzelphur: read their T&Cs, you can't do anything that raises click-rates (no pointing them out, etc.)16:54
Azelphuryea, I don't16:54
AzelphurI occasionally get players that click the ads just to give me money, I tell them not to16:54
MartijnVdSjust making sure :) I've seen several high-profile accounts be deactivated16:55
Azelphuryea16:55
Azelphurbut saying I get money from adverts is kinda obvious, lol16:55
MartijnVdSAzelphur: Read the T&Cs, you shuold report such people to Google so they can keep your click->sale stats OK16:55
MartijnVdSyes it's a pain16:56
Azelphur*shrug* my click to sale stats are probably terrible because I specifically positioned the adverts so people would accidentally click them16:56
Azelphur:x16:56
MartijnVdS...16:57
Azelphurhaha16:57
AzelphurIt's a common tactic16:57
hamitronsaying it in a public logged channel maybe isn't clever though ;)16:57
Azelphur*shrug*16:58
hamitronhehe16:58
Azelphurit's not against the T&Cs to do that16:58
Azelphurpositioning adverts where people will see it / click it, there are no rules against it XD16:58
shaunomaking them 100% tall & wide, and 99% transparent, is probably bending it a bit tho :p17:04
Azelphuryea they arn't, it's perfectly legit17:06
Azelphurshauno: http://game.azelphur.com/fastdl/motd/17:07
Azelphurshauno: it's designed to show up in game, so it uses the games font (you probably won't see that in your web browser) and also the advert drops right to the bottom left, next to the continue button :p17:07
Azelphurdesigned to target the embedded browser in the game and nothing else :p17:07
shaunotricky17:12
shaunoI'd assume that's a little irritating if you actually click it, and get whisked out of your game and back into a browser17:12
Azelphurshauno: nah, the browser is entirely embedded into the game17:12
Azelphurso if you click it, it loads inside the game, and you can still click continue if you want to17:12
shaunoah17:13
Azelphurshauno: I specifically opt against stuff that's invasive17:13
AzelphurI recently turned down $1.50/1000 views for video adverts17:14
shaunoapparently your site isn't famous enough, it's escaped whoever we outsource our nannyfilter to17:14
Azelphurhaha, web of trust don't like me17:14
Azelphurhttp://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/game.azelphur.com17:15
Azelphurno idea why :(17:15
shaunoI think it's because on your article about the fps delusion, you've spelt max_vsync wrong17:16
shaunono-one trusts typos17:16
Azelphurit's not a typo17:16
Azelphur:p17:16
shaunoit's meant to be mat?17:16
Azelphuryep17:16
Azelphurazelphur.com has a good wot rating, it's game.azelphur.com they hate for some reason17:17
shaunonever heard of web of trust before17:17
Azelphurit's a popular firefox addon that protects you from phishing websites17:17
Azelphur21.7 million users17:18
JGJonesa bit like PhishTank?17:18
Azelphursounds like that sort of thing, yea17:18
Azelphurshauno: I'm probably gonna have to buy a second server though lol17:19
Azelphurhttp://reliablesite.net/v4/dedicated-servers.aspx I'm currently on the i7 860, I'm hoping to get 7 servers on it but I think it will struggle17:20
hamitronyou could buy a few servers and rent rack space17:20
AzelphurI might switch to 2 Q9550s17:20
hamitron:)17:20
Azelphuryea or that, but then I'd need to ship it to NY17:20
hamitronor have some UK servers17:20
hamitron;D17:20
AzelphurNY is fine from UK, I get like 90ms17:20
Azelphurthat's why I chose it, NY seems pretty good from most places17:21
hamitron"now expanded to the EU"17:21
hamitron;)17:21
hamitronyeh17:21
BigRedSAzelphur: I used to run a game server for my brother for EU/UK people, we went with Strato in Belgium who came fairly highly recommended17:21
Azelphuryea, most of my players are US though17:21
Azelphurhttp://game.azelphur.com/hlstatsxce/hlstats.php?mode=countryclans&game=tf_surf&sort=nummembers17:21
Azelphuralso wow, I've wasted 1,011 days of americas time17:22
Azelphurhaha17:22
BigRedSahh, by quite some margin!17:22
Azelphurindeed17:22
Azelphurit's quite funny because most of the active members in the community are english17:23
Azelphurbut most of the actual players are american17:23
BigRedSIn your position, though, I'd be paranoid and get the second server with a different company in a different DC etc.17:23
BigRedSahh, peculiar17:23
AzelphurI like reliablesite tbh, they are the cheapest you can get in "NY"17:23
Azelphur(dark fiber direct from NY to a datacenter in NJ, yay for cheating)17:24
MartijnVdSit's not dark if it's got bits going through it17:24
Azelphurwell, it was dark17:24
Azelphurthey bought it hehe17:24
Azelphurbut yea reliablesite are good, they gave me a deal when I was starting up and have been generally useful and rather stable17:25
Azelphurin the ~8 months I've been with them there has probably been around an hour of network downtime17:25
Azelphurand I had a RAM failure where they somehow performed time travel to replace the RAM17:25
BigRedSAh yeah. There are benefits to being in the same DC, too, especially if you'd like the servers to talk to each other17:26
Azelphuroh yea, they absolutely need to talk to eachother17:26
Azelphurhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/May%202011/2011-05-03-031958_570x498_scrot.png <-- time travel17:26
BigRedShaha, not bad, <60s shutdown,swap,boot17:28
Azelphurindeed17:28
Azelphurwe actually looked at the time stamps and they sent the reply 1 second before I sent the email17:28
Azelphurso they detected I'd shut it down, and emailed me before I could email them telling them it was shut down17:29
BigRedSthough I have in the past forgotten to send out the "I've shut it down" email until I've gone to write the "it's back" one17:29
Azelphurhehe17:29
popeyAzelphur: that server is good value17:30
popeyless than 90 quid a month!17:30
Azelphurindeed, I spent a while shopping around17:30
popeyor is that the price with no disks and ram :D17:30
AzelphurI even haggled with them :D17:30
Azelphurnope, it's a fully working server and works great17:31
popeyhow much disk/ram do you get for that?17:31
AzelphurI pay $147/mo for the i7 860 because I wanted extra IPs17:31
popeyright17:31
popeyand how much traffic?17:31
Azelphur10TB17:31
popeygolly17:31
Azelphuryea, they don't mess about17:31
Azelphurit's blazingly fast too17:31
Azelphuras I say been with em 8 months and I got no major complaints17:32
popeynice17:32
Azelphurthere's the odd couple of second network hiccup (but that seems to have stopped now), they had a couple short outages, the ram failure as I say was replaced really fast17:32
Azelphurat the end of the day whatever dc you go to you'll get hardware failure at some point though it's all about how fast they respond, and these guys respond time travel fast xD17:33
popeyheh17:33
Azelphurbut yea, totally recommend them if you want a dedi they've been great17:33
popeyI'm probably going to get a VPS and use EC2 for my next project17:34
Azelphurhehe17:34
popeynot gaming of course17:34
Azelphuryea :)17:34
popeyneed to play with ec2 more17:34
AzelphurI may well switch from my i7 860 to 2 of the Q9550 units17:34
Azelphur...funny enough, I need the extra bandwith17:34
Azelphur(awesome problem to have is awesome)17:34
popeyheh17:34
popeyright, off out, ttfn!17:34
Azelphurcya :p17:34
shaunoI finally figured out what gmail is useful for17:37
shaunoI don't get kicked off the wifi if I leave gmail open, because it's making near-constant requests17:37
shauno:D17:37
Azelphurhaha17:38
Azelphurshauno: is that android that your getting kicked off with?17:38
shaunonah.  the 'guest network' here is a captive portal that has an uncomfortably short idle timeout17:38
Azelphuroh, annoying17:39
shaunoand I don't like putting my own laptop on the proper network because then they know who it belongs to :)17:39
Azelphurhaha17:40
Azelphurshauno: I always carry my android phone with me and tether to it17:40
Azelphurnever have to bother about other peoples useless internet17:40
shaunoI have 3g, but o2 have been utter pants lately17:40
Azelphur:(17:40
Azelphurshauno: have you seen giffgaff?17:40
Azelphurthey use o2's network, but they are awesome17:41
shaunoo2.ie != o2 ;)17:41
Azelphuro.O17:41
shaunogiffgaff get charged full international roaming here17:41
BigRedSI sometimes tether with mine, but it's always achingly slow :(17:42
shaunoyeah.  that's the other benefit of hopping on work's network17:42
BigRedSThough my dad got a BTOpenzone sub with his net connection, to which I have the passphrase, and most places I'd otherwise want to tether has openzone17:43
shaunoespecially on the weekend, when I'm 33% of the people in the building, wifi limits me before the internet does17:43
shaunoso , I wonder what the grand plan is going to be, with firefox ditching security updates in such short cycles18:01
jacobwgood question18:02
shaunothat's going to be rather awkward for LTSes18:02
Azelphuryea, IE has been jumping on the bandwagon telling everyone to switch to IE for LTS haha18:03
shaunoheh18:03
shaunoI think I'd like to see movement towards a gnome-native gtk-webkit browser as the 'sensible default'18:04
shaunosomething that can be beat into a sensible release schedule, while firefox & chrome race around whatever this new fetish for major versions is18:05
BigRedShow close to that is epiphany?18:05
shaunono idea.  last time I used epiphany it was mozembed18:05
BigRedSit's webkit and I'm pretty sure it's part of Gnome proper18:07
shaunoneat18:07
shaunoso .. erm .. why don't people use it ?18:08
BigRedSEr, people do :)18:08
BigRedSBut FF has more marketshare so is default more frequently18:09
shaunois it in the default seed?18:09
BigRedSand it's got more extensions and the like.18:09
BigRedSI've lost track :) I know I've had to manually install it a couple of times, but I don't know which distros those were18:09
shaunoI think ff & chrome have enough mindshare that people can find them if they want them18:09
jacobwits not as fast as FF18:09
shaunoI mean, they manage on windows, without the help of the software store18:09
shaunoreally?  I use ff on mac & xp, where it feels like the bloated pig I drag out when I really need the kitchen sink18:10
BigRedSyeah, and there'd be no reason necesarily to not ship with them18:10
BigRedSI'm pretty sure ubuntu comes with both ff and chrome but only one as default...18:11
BigRedSOr have I only got FF 'cause this install dates from it being default?18:11
shaunowell, that was my original query.  does shipping them mean we're going to start to see a browser that's difficult to support over a whole LTS18:11
shaunoI mean, when 10.04 came out, 3.5.x was current.  now it's 5.0 and they want to drop security updates for 4.x18:13
BigRedSah yeah. if the upgrade's not automatable, but the support ends also, that's a tricky situation18:13
BigRedSheh. just got told off by a friend for grumbling about being on call18:15
BigRedSshe's just graduated as a doctor...18:15
shaunoheh, well who's great idea was that ?18:17
jacobwhaha18:18
BigRedShaha, nah, I've just had a "you don't know the meaning of on call", 'cause sitting around waiting for servers to break is apparently less arduous than trying to stop people dying18:18
jacobwi complained to a friend who works as a nurse on a dementia ward about my job being the same thing over and over again :|18:19
BigRedShaha!18:19
jacobwspeaking of doctors.. i'm watching house season 718:22
jacobwbest season yet18:23
BigRedSAw man, I've been meaning to watch that since it started18:23
BigRedSI keep not starting in order to start from the beginning18:23
BigRedSwell, that's my excuse anyway. Really, I'm just awful at watching tv...18:23
jacobwi downloaded half it, watched it, was hooked and had to wait two days for the other half to download18:26
BigRedShaha18:26
pete_hey all18:58
BigRedSgood morning18:58
pete_anyone know how to get ubuntu to pick up the hostname from dhcp18:58
pete_and set it18:58
jpdspete_: As in, set the system's hostname from DHCP?19:10
pete_yes19:10
pete_i have an NFS diskless booting environemnt19:10
pete_and I want the hostname to be set by what is sent from the dhcp server19:11
jpdsYou can tell the DHCP client to send its hostname to the DHCP server and have it set up DNS from that.19:11
pete_i don't really mind about ddns at this point19:12
pete_the difficulty is getting ubuntu to change it's hostname19:12
pete_it's just using the one that was in /etc/hostname19:12
jpdsYeah, it just sounds wrong.19:12
zleaps you want it to dynamically assign a host name19:12
pete_yes19:12
zleapis there not a file that lists ip addresses and hostnames19:12
pete_ie I add a stanza in the dhcp server to give it a hostname, boot the machine and off it goes19:13
hamitronoption host-name?19:13
pete_well yeh19:13
pete_i did that19:13
pete_:)19:13
zleaphave a look here http://linux.die.net/man/8/dhclient19:14
zleapThe Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client, dhclient, provides a means for ... the client sends can be set using the -g flag, followed by the IP address to send. ... The -H <host-name> option allows you to specify the DHCP host-name ..19:15
zleapabiove bit is from the google search19:15
zleapah -H19:15
pete_that's the wrong way round19:16
pete_I don't want to "request" a hostname19:16
pete_as a client19:16
zleapok sorry19:16
pete_I want the DHCP to tell me what hostname I should be using19:16
pete_heh19:16
pete_no worries19:17
hamitroncan't you specify it in the dhcpd config file?19:17
pete_well i have19:18
pete_but the client isn't accepting it19:18
pete_or is ignoring it19:18
dauberslo19:20
BigRedShi19:22
pete_may have found something - looking now19:22
BigRedSoh, that actually works19:22
dmtarmeyhello ?19:23
pete_hmmm well it now uses localhost - and not what was set in something else19:23
hamitronhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7158719:24
Myrttihohum20:04
zleapanyone here,20:18
brobostigono/20:19
zleapgood that means i am still connected20:20
brobostigon:)20:20
zleapi seem to be subject to my router disconnecting and irc not telling me for ages (time out)20:20
brobostigoni see.20:20
MartijnVdShttp://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/5869967197/20:38
MartijnVdSFun with Lego :)20:38
BigRedShaha20:45
zleaplego rocks20:48
MartijnVdSThese guys are €2 each20:48
MartijnVdS(scientist, hazmat guys)20:48
MartijnVdSyou don't know which one (out of 16 possibilities) you'll get though20:48
penguin42does the hazmat guy clean up after the scientist?20:50
MartijnVdSpenguin42: look at the next picture :)20:50
penguin42bananans can be dangerous20:52
MartijnVdSexactly!20:52
dragonkeeper_hi   how do i boot a iso file from grub     i tried  http://paste.ubuntu.com/632616/   in the grub.cfg file    but when i try to load it  all i get is a constant  white _     what am i doing wrong ?21:30
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Mat__Hi22:55
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Guest80908I can't log into ubuntu any more after it shut down, I was hoping someone could help.22:57
MartijnVdSGuest80908: do you get the login screen?22:57
Guest80908Yes, it accepts my passwords, goes to a black screen, then back to the password screen.22:57
Guest80908I can log in from the recovery console22:57
MartijnVdSGuest80908: if you select "recovery mode" (or something) from the graphical login menu, you should be able to get a terminal22:58
MartijnVdSGuest80908: then type "gnome-session" and tell us any error messages22:58
MartijnVdS!pastebin22:58
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Guest80908I'm currrently using a live usb22:59
Guest80908Nothing works from the graphical login menu22:59
Guest80908I can only get the recoery console if I access it through grub22:59
MartijnVdSif you select your username (before typing your password) from the login menu23:00
MartijnVdSyou should be able to select a "recovery" option23:00
zleapnite all23:00
MartijnVdSy0 zl23:00
MartijnVdShm23:00
MartijnVdShe left23:00
Guest80908ok, I will do that from the recovery console and be back shortly - thank you23:00
MartijnVdSGuest80908: no you should do that from the "normal" graphical login screen23:00
Guest80908If I change options from the normal graphical log in screen, to any of the other options (such as recovery/ gnome clasic etc) then it does the same thing - just goes back to the log in screen23:01
MartijnVdShmm23:02
MartijnVdSdid you remove packages?23:02
Guest80908No23:02
brobostigondo you have gnome-team ppa?23:02
brobostigongnome3-team ppa?23:02
MartijnVdSevening brobostigon23:02
brobostigonevening MartijnVdS23:02
brobostigonie,faulty gnome-session.23:03
Mat84Hi again, sorry, I was guest80908, but have switched to my gf's laptop as the live usb wasn't liking my wireless card that much23:06
Mat84heh, quite good timing!23:06
Mat84brobostigon - I'm not sure about gone3-team ppa, if it is something I had to manually add then no, I wouldn't have had it.23:07
brobostigonMat84: yes, you will have had tomanuallyadd it, but there was anissue,similer to what you desribe, within gnome3's gnome-session fromthere.23:08
Mat84ah ok, no, I was using unity23:09
brobostigonok, no, you wont have that issue then.23:09
brobostigonwell, that ppa'sissue.23:09
Mat84I have tried to log in from recovery using fail safe graphics, but it is the same issue23:10
brobostigongood night everyone, sleep well.23:11
Mat84sleep well23:11
Mat84Does anyone have any suggestions for things that I could try?23:12
brobostigongood night Mat84 , thank you.23:12
MartijnVdSMat84: if the "safe mode" doesn't work, I have no idea23:12
Mat84ok :(23:12
Mat84I can get to recover mode from grub though23:12
Mat84and I can log into the console23:14
Mat84Maybe I will have to reinstall23:24
penguin42Mat84: What's the last thing you did when it was working?23:30
Mat84Shutdown23:30
penguin42erm did you make any changes before that?23:30
Mat84nope, but skype had crashed23:30
Mat84no updates, no new packages or anything like that23:31
Mat84I can log in to the console via grub (loading recovery mode) - but not from the graphical interface from a normal boot23:32
penguin42skype crashing isn't too odd23:38
penguin42Mat84: OK, so what exactly happens if you try to boot normally?23:38
Mat84yeh, I certainly wasn't expecting this!23:38
Mat84so I get the normal Ubuntu logo23:38
Mat84the little noise, then the log in screen23:38
penguin42good23:38
Mat84click my name, put in my password23:38
penguin42then?23:38
Mat84it's accepted23:39
* penguin42 waits in anticipation23:39
Mat84black screen, back to logon screen23:39
penguin42ok23:39
Mat84with the little noise again23:39
Mat84sometimes, there's a brief flash of console text in the black screen23:39
penguin42Mat84: What session type had you got selected on the login screen?23:39
Mat84it doesn't make a difference, they all do the same23:40
penguin42ok23:40
penguin42Mat84: Can you logon with the console?23:40
Mat84yeh23:40
penguin42good; can you do a graphical login that fails, then switch to the console and see if there is a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and see if there is an error at the bottom?23:41
Mat84ok, will try for you (you may have to be patient with me, not to great with the console yet)23:41
Mat84not that I can see23:42
penguin42hmm23:43
penguin42can you issue the command ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old  and see what it says23:43
Mat84it says /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old23:44
Mat84and I meant the file was there, but I couldn't see any errors (not that it wasn't there)23:44
Azelphurup to 13mbit/sec average on my dedi now >.<23:45
BigRedS#23:57
Mat84Hm, have read through the whole log, couldn't see any errors23:58

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