[00:28] <diplcm> join #oplss
[01:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Tony] As It Occurred To Him - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/06/24/as-it-occurred-to-him/
[07:32] <kaushal> Hi
[07:32] <kaushal> Can someone please guide me to understand memtest86 ?
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> kaushal: what's there to understand?
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> kaushal: if it shows lots of errors, your memory (or memory controller) is bad
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> if it doesn't it's probably good
[08:05] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:17] <Myrtti> kaushal: run it overnight, if it doesnt show errors, your rig is probably ok
[08:17] <Myrtti> kaushal: overnight ~= several passes
[08:38] <popey> Morning all
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> \o popey
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> how's things on your side of the sea?
[08:43] <popey> oddly my desktop dropped off the network just now
[08:43] <safiyyah> got errors again!
[08:44] <safiyyah> morning all
[08:44] <MartijnVdS> popey: hmm.. oneiric? :)
[08:44] <popey> no
[08:44] <safiyyah> the fsck command to find errors
[08:44] <MartijnVdS> I'm running Oneiric on my desktop.. it's.. flaky
[08:44] <safiyyah> I think I am entering it wrong
[08:44] <safiyyah> isn't it sudo fsck -l?
[08:44] <popey> heh
[08:45] <popey> rebooting modem has fix0r3d it
[08:45] <MartijnVdS> stränge
[08:45] <safiyyah> guys?
[08:45] <MartijnVdS> safiyyah: Why are you running fsck by hand?
[08:47] <safiyyah> i am on live disk
[08:48] <MartijnVdS> safiyyah: you can do filesystem checks using a graphical tool, so you don't have to remember the command line :)
[08:48] <safiyyah> i got the samekernel panic error I has last week
[08:48] <MartijnVdS> safiyyah: System -> Administration -> Disk utility, or start "palimpsest"
[08:48] <safiyyah> okay, right, we tried all that last week and none of them worked
[08:48] <safiyyah> the only thing that worked was a fedora live disk
[08:48] <safiyyah> and the fsck command
[08:49] <safiyyah> which I forgot to write down in my notepad
[08:49] <safiyyah> would you be kind enough to give me the command?
[08:50] <MartijnVdS> man fsck
[08:52] <AlanBell> can't see a -l flag
[08:52] <AlanBell> fsck /dev/sda1 is I guess the most likely way to call it
[08:52] <safiyyah> AlanBell I was just about to say the same thing
[08:53] <safiyyah> thanx AlanBell
[08:54] <AlanBell> however all the GUI tool will do is call that command in the background
[09:29]  * AlanBell hugs czajkowski 
[09:57] <czajkowski> AlanBell: *hugs*
[09:57] <czajkowski> what I do....
[10:09] <AlanBell> nothing really
[11:24] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:35] <bigcalm[mob]> Morning peeps
[11:36] <bigcalm[mob]> That is if there are any peeps awake in here :)
[11:37] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm[mob] :)
[11:38] <bigcalm[mob]> Life indeed
[11:38] <bigcalm[mob]> Bored in a barber shop queue
[11:40] <bigcalm[mob]> What brings you to irc on a Saturday?
[11:40] <brobostigon> bigcalm[mob]: my byobu session on my vps, really.
[11:40] <bigcalm[mob]> Hehe
[11:41] <bigcalm[mob]> Other than that? A busy day?
[11:41] <brobostigon> pottering around really.
[11:44] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm[mob]: you're in the mob now?
[11:45] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS :)
[11:46] <MartijnVdS> \o
[11:46] <brobostigon> o/
[11:46]  * MartijnVdS is trying to figure out a way to light LEGO for photos
[11:46] <MartijnVdS> daylight is unreliable
[11:47] <popey> coal and sticks ☺
[11:47] <bigcalm[mob]> MartijnVdS: irc from my mob
[11:48] <MartijnVdS> popey: Good idea, except I want to prevent burning (part of) my house, if at all possible
[11:48] <bigcalm[mob]> MartijnVdS: make it out of cobblestone the
[11:48] <bigcalm[mob]> Then
[11:49] <bigcalm[mob]> Bloody phone keyboard is a paid
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> it's a-paid :P
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> Bunch of minecrafters. Should have known... :)
[11:49] <bigcalm[mob]> See?
[11:50] <bigcalm[mob]> Is there any other way of life?
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> I was actually thinking of using these: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=gr&ctn=6913255PH
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> they give off a boatload of light
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> all I need now is a way to hold them while I work the camera
[11:55] <bigcalm[mob]> Duct tape, glue gun and staple gun
[12:19] <sohaib> Hey guys, I have shared two folders on network via samba now the problem is whenever I restart my host, I need to configure the sharing via samba again. Is there any way to make it permanent?
[12:24] <phonex01> Im using facebook chat using Pidgin XMPP and everything is ok BUT how can i join group chat ??
[12:43] <directhex> does facebook use MUC for group chat? i don't know the answer to that
[12:56] <Karti> sohaib, I have a network drive that I just bookmark in Nautilus and have no problems when its down (although they have fixed IP addresses)
[12:57] <BigRedS> sohaib: is hte problem that the server stops sharing hte file, or that the client stops connecting to it?
[13:01] <JGJones> I have to love Google for doing this - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=google-youtube-auto-caption
[13:10] <BigRedS> oh, awesome
[13:22] <sohaib> BigRedS: whenever server restarts client is unable to access the shared stuff.
[13:25] <StevenR> hrrm. what's "mumble" (in the context of team meetings)
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> StevenR: it's "voice IRC"
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> StevenR: multiplayer voice-chat
[13:26] <StevenR> ahhh
[13:27] <StevenR> thanks :)
[13:29] <popey> Dear GTK people
[13:30] <popey> http://static.arstechnica.com/1010review/Screenshot-Install.png
[13:30] <popey> what are the GTK elements on that page that have ticks in them
[13:30] <popey> I want to do something similar, showing status of something in an app
[13:30] <MartijnVdS> popey: checkboxes?
[13:30] <popey> no, the things above
[13:30] <popey> with the ticks in them
[13:30] <popey> green
[13:30] <MartijnVdS> popey: they're probably custom thingys
[13:31] <MartijnVdS> popey: you'll have to look at the installer source to check
[13:31] <popey> ah
[13:31] <popey> yeah, i grabbed the source, and tried to open the .ui file in glade
[13:31] <popey> but it barfed
[13:31] <MartijnVdS> grep for the text next to it
[13:31] <popey> Failed to load /home/alan/Development/ubiquity-2.6.10/gui/gtk/stepPrepare.ui.
[13:31] <popey> The following required catalogues are unavailable: gtkwidgets
[13:32] <popey> ok
[13:32] <MartijnVdS> ...
[13:33] <popey> ubiquity/gtkwidgets.py:               'that you are plugged in to a power source',
[13:33] <MartijnVdS> "StateBox"
[13:33] <MartijnVdS> (in Oneiric)
[13:34] <MartijnVdS> ubiquity/gtkwidgets.p -> class StateBox
[13:34] <popey> hmm
[13:34] <popey> I'd rather use standard stuff
[13:34]  * popey wonders how else to render this
[13:34]  * popey makes some boxes
[14:36] <danfish> afternoon a;;
[14:36] <danfish> oops s/a;;/all
[14:37] <danfish> I just mounted an S3 bucket under fuse and run "df -H"
[14:37] <brobostigon> afternoonings danfish :)
[14:37] <danfish> s3fs      282T      0   282T   0% /mnt/s3
[14:37] <danfish> brobostigon: o/
[14:37] <danfish> I think that's enough backup space ;)
[14:38] <brobostigon> yes :)
[14:39] <danfish> how's is going brobostigon?
[14:40] <brobostigon> danfish: not bad, upand down, and interesting experiences and information. and you?
[14:40] <danfish> much the same really
[14:41] <brobostigon> :)
[14:42] <danfish> main problem is not enough time in the day
[14:42] <brobostigon> :(
[14:43] <brobostigon> i need more useful time,where  mymind isnt destracted.
[14:43] <brobostigon> with more importent things, and focus on less importent things.
[15:26] <shauno> ugh.  why do work have to block 22.  making my morning a lot more difficult than it should be
[15:43] <popey> heh
[15:43] <popey> ssh on 443 ftw
[15:43] <shauno> yeah.  I do that for hosts I control
[15:44] <shauno> for trying to restart my vps via bitfolk's xen shell, I'm kinda stuffed until I go home
[15:45] <shauno> usually if I really need 22, I jump off from this one.  doing that to restart this one would be problematic
[16:01] <shauno> odd one that I want to run again to get a copy of the error.  they moved me from one machine to another.  the kernel I was using on the previous machine apparently didn't boot on this one
[16:02] <shauno> 2.6.32-31-generic booted, -32-generic didn't.  be curious to know why  (stands to reason that if I was on this hardware originally, a kernel update would have rendered an unbootable system)
[16:10] <BigRedS> different modules? depends on the definition of 'didn't boot'
[16:13] <shauno> that's why I want to try it myself.  that's all the definition I got :)
[16:14] <shauno> "it didn't boot so we tried the next kernel in the list, which did"
[16:23] <BigRedS> ahh
[16:26] <jacobw> haa
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[16:48] <Azelphur> haha this is so epic, it's like my server got slashdotted or something xD
[16:49] <Azelphur> gone from 4000 hits/day to 8000+hits/day, 60GB/day 6.5mbits avg to 140GB/day 13mbits avg \o/
[16:49] <Azelphur> getting loads of donations, loads of adsense, so fun \o/
[16:50] <shauno> good to know there's positives to the extra traffic.  free to play, not free to Azelphur :p
[16:50] <Azelphur> indeed
[16:50] <Azelphur> I'm actually going to make a profit this month if it keeps going like this
[16:50] <shauno> score
[16:52] <Azelphur> I have a feeling the email I'm going to get tonight informing me of players it's decided are regulars and thus invited them to the steam group is going to be epic too
[16:52] <Azelphur> (I run a magic gadget that detects if a player has been playing for more than 5 hours, and invites them to the steam group on the basis that they are probably interested / a regular)
[16:52] <shauno> so maybe you won't have to sell a kidney to pay for your electricity bill now ;)
[16:53] <Azelphur> haha
[16:53] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: don't tell people you get adsense money, or Google'll drop you
[16:54] <Azelphur> why?
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: read their T&Cs, you can't do anything that raises click-rates (no pointing them out, etc.)
[16:54] <Azelphur> yea, I don't
[16:54] <Azelphur> I occasionally get players that click the ads just to give me money, I tell them not to
[16:55] <MartijnVdS> just making sure :) I've seen several high-profile accounts be deactivated
[16:55] <Azelphur> yea
[16:55] <Azelphur> but saying I get money from adverts is kinda obvious, lol
[16:55] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: Read the T&Cs, you shuold report such people to Google so they can keep your click->sale stats OK
[16:56] <MartijnVdS> yes it's a pain
[16:56] <Azelphur> *shrug* my click to sale stats are probably terrible because I specifically positioned the adverts so people would accidentally click them
[16:56] <Azelphur> :x
[16:57] <MartijnVdS> ...
[16:57] <Azelphur> haha
[16:57] <Azelphur> It's a common tactic
[16:57] <hamitron> saying it in a public logged channel maybe isn't clever though ;)
[16:58] <Azelphur> *shrug*
[16:58] <hamitron> hehe
[16:58] <Azelphur> it's not against the T&Cs to do that
[16:58] <Azelphur> positioning adverts where people will see it / click it, there are no rules against it XD
[17:04] <shauno> making them 100% tall & wide, and 99% transparent, is probably bending it a bit tho :p
[17:06] <Azelphur> yea they arn't, it's perfectly legit
[17:07] <Azelphur> shauno: http://game.azelphur.com/fastdl/motd/
[17:07] <Azelphur> shauno: it's designed to show up in game, so it uses the games font (you probably won't see that in your web browser) and also the advert drops right to the bottom left, next to the continue button :p
[17:07] <Azelphur> designed to target the embedded browser in the game and nothing else :p
[17:12] <shauno> tricky
[17:12] <shauno> I'd assume that's a little irritating if you actually click it, and get whisked out of your game and back into a browser
[17:12] <Azelphur> shauno: nah, the browser is entirely embedded into the game
[17:12] <Azelphur> so if you click it, it loads inside the game, and you can still click continue if you want to
[17:13] <shauno> ah
[17:13] <Azelphur> shauno: I specifically opt against stuff that's invasive
[17:14] <Azelphur> I recently turned down $1.50/1000 views for video adverts
[17:14] <shauno> apparently your site isn't famous enough, it's escaped whoever we outsource our nannyfilter to
[17:14] <Azelphur> haha, web of trust don't like me
[17:15] <Azelphur> http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/game.azelphur.com
[17:15] <Azelphur> no idea why :(
[17:16] <shauno> I think it's because on your article about the fps delusion, you've spelt max_vsync wrong
[17:16] <shauno> no-one trusts typos
[17:16] <Azelphur> it's not a typo
[17:16] <Azelphur> :p
[17:16] <shauno> it's meant to be mat?
[17:16] <Azelphur> yep
[17:17] <Azelphur> azelphur.com has a good wot rating, it's game.azelphur.com they hate for some reason
[17:17] <shauno> never heard of web of trust before
[17:17] <Azelphur> it's a popular firefox addon that protects you from phishing websites
[17:18] <Azelphur> 21.7 million users
[17:18] <JGJones> a bit like PhishTank?
[17:18] <Azelphur> sounds like that sort of thing, yea
[17:19] <Azelphur> shauno: I'm probably gonna have to buy a second server though lol
[17:20] <Azelphur> http://reliablesite.net/v4/dedicated-servers.aspx I'm currently on the i7 860, I'm hoping to get 7 servers on it but I think it will struggle
[17:20] <hamitron> you could buy a few servers and rent rack space
[17:20] <Azelphur> I might switch to 2 Q9550s
[17:20] <hamitron> :)
[17:20] <Azelphur> yea or that, but then I'd need to ship it to NY
[17:20] <hamitron> or have some UK servers
[17:20] <hamitron> ;D
[17:20] <Azelphur> NY is fine from UK, I get like 90ms
[17:21] <Azelphur> that's why I chose it, NY seems pretty good from most places
[17:21] <hamitron> "now expanded to the EU"
[17:21] <hamitron> ;)
[17:21] <hamitron> yeh
[17:21] <BigRedS> Azelphur: I used to run a game server for my brother for EU/UK people, we went with Strato in Belgium who came fairly highly recommended
[17:21] <Azelphur> yea, most of my players are US though
[17:21] <Azelphur> http://game.azelphur.com/hlstatsxce/hlstats.php?mode=countryclans&game=tf_surf&sort=nummembers
[17:22] <Azelphur> also wow, I've wasted 1,011 days of americas time
[17:22] <Azelphur> haha
[17:22] <BigRedS> ahh, by quite some margin!
[17:22] <Azelphur> indeed
[17:23] <Azelphur> it's quite funny because most of the active members in the community are english
[17:23] <Azelphur> but most of the actual players are american
[17:23] <BigRedS> In your position, though, I'd be paranoid and get the second server with a different company in a different DC etc.
[17:23] <BigRedS> ahh, peculiar
[17:23] <Azelphur> I like reliablesite tbh, they are the cheapest you can get in "NY"
[17:24] <Azelphur> (dark fiber direct from NY to a datacenter in NJ, yay for cheating)
[17:24] <MartijnVdS> it's not dark if it's got bits going through it
[17:24] <Azelphur> well, it was dark
[17:24] <Azelphur> they bought it hehe
[17:25] <Azelphur> but yea reliablesite are good, they gave me a deal when I was starting up and have been generally useful and rather stable
[17:25] <Azelphur> in the ~8 months I've been with them there has probably been around an hour of network downtime
[17:25] <Azelphur> and I had a RAM failure where they somehow performed time travel to replace the RAM
[17:26] <BigRedS> Ah yeah. There are benefits to being in the same DC, too, especially if you'd like the servers to talk to each other
[17:26] <Azelphur> oh yea, they absolutely need to talk to eachother
[17:26] <Azelphur> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/May%202011/2011-05-03-031958_570x498_scrot.png <-- time travel
[17:28] <BigRedS> haha, not bad, <60s shutdown,swap,boot
[17:28] <Azelphur> indeed
[17:28] <Azelphur> we actually looked at the time stamps and they sent the reply 1 second before I sent the email
[17:29] <Azelphur> so they detected I'd shut it down, and emailed me before I could email them telling them it was shut down
[17:29] <BigRedS> though I have in the past forgotten to send out the "I've shut it down" email until I've gone to write the "it's back" one
[17:29] <Azelphur> hehe
[17:30] <popey> Azelphur: that server is good value
[17:30] <popey> less than 90 quid a month!
[17:30] <Azelphur> indeed, I spent a while shopping around
[17:30] <popey> or is that the price with no disks and ram :D
[17:30] <Azelphur> I even haggled with them :D
[17:31] <Azelphur> nope, it's a fully working server and works great
[17:31] <popey> how much disk/ram do you get for that?
[17:31] <Azelphur> I pay $147/mo for the i7 860 because I wanted extra IPs
[17:31] <popey> right
[17:31] <popey> and how much traffic?
[17:31] <Azelphur> 10TB
[17:31] <popey> golly
[17:31] <Azelphur> yea, they don't mess about
[17:31] <Azelphur> it's blazingly fast too
[17:32] <Azelphur> as I say been with em 8 months and I got no major complaints
[17:32] <popey> nice
[17:32] <Azelphur> there's the odd couple of second network hiccup (but that seems to have stopped now), they had a couple short outages, the ram failure as I say was replaced really fast
[17:33] <Azelphur> at the end of the day whatever dc you go to you'll get hardware failure at some point though it's all about how fast they respond, and these guys respond time travel fast xD
[17:33] <popey> heh
[17:33] <Azelphur> but yea, totally recommend them if you want a dedi they've been great
[17:34] <popey> I'm probably going to get a VPS and use EC2 for my next project
[17:34] <Azelphur> hehe
[17:34] <popey> not gaming of course
[17:34] <Azelphur> yea :)
[17:34] <popey> need to play with ec2 more
[17:34] <Azelphur> I may well switch from my i7 860 to 2 of the Q9550 units
[17:34] <Azelphur> ...funny enough, I need the extra bandwith
[17:34] <Azelphur> (awesome problem to have is awesome)
[17:34] <popey> heh
[17:34] <popey> right, off out, ttfn!
[17:34] <Azelphur> cya :p
[17:37] <shauno> I finally figured out what gmail is useful for
[17:37] <shauno> I don't get kicked off the wifi if I leave gmail open, because it's making near-constant requests
[17:37] <shauno> :D
[17:38] <Azelphur> haha
[17:38] <Azelphur> shauno: is that android that your getting kicked off with?
[17:38] <shauno> nah.  the 'guest network' here is a captive portal that has an uncomfortably short idle timeout
[17:39] <Azelphur> oh, annoying
[17:39] <shauno> and I don't like putting my own laptop on the proper network because then they know who it belongs to :)
[17:40] <Azelphur> haha
[17:40] <Azelphur> shauno: I always carry my android phone with me and tether to it
[17:40] <Azelphur> never have to bother about other peoples useless internet
[17:40] <shauno> I have 3g, but o2 have been utter pants lately
[17:40] <Azelphur> :(
[17:40] <Azelphur> shauno: have you seen giffgaff?
[17:41] <Azelphur> they use o2's network, but they are awesome
[17:41] <shauno> o2.ie != o2 ;)
[17:41] <Azelphur> o.O
[17:41] <shauno> giffgaff get charged full international roaming here
[17:42] <BigRedS> I sometimes tether with mine, but it's always achingly slow :(
[17:42] <shauno> yeah.  that's the other benefit of hopping on work's network
[17:43] <BigRedS> Though my dad got a BTOpenzone sub with his net connection, to which I have the passphrase, and most places I'd otherwise want to tether has openzone
[17:43] <shauno> especially on the weekend, when I'm 33% of the people in the building, wifi limits me before the internet does
[18:01] <shauno> so , I wonder what the grand plan is going to be, with firefox ditching security updates in such short cycles
[18:02] <jacobw> good question
[18:02] <shauno> that's going to be rather awkward for LTSes
[18:03] <Azelphur> yea, IE has been jumping on the bandwagon telling everyone to switch to IE for LTS haha
[18:03] <shauno> heh
[18:04] <shauno> I think I'd like to see movement towards a gnome-native gtk-webkit browser as the 'sensible default'
[18:05] <shauno> something that can be beat into a sensible release schedule, while firefox & chrome race around whatever this new fetish for major versions is
[18:05] <BigRedS> how close to that is epiphany?
[18:05] <shauno> no idea.  last time I used epiphany it was mozembed
[18:07] <BigRedS> it's webkit and I'm pretty sure it's part of Gnome proper
[18:07] <shauno> neat
[18:08] <shauno> so .. erm .. why don't people use it ?
[18:08] <BigRedS> Er, people do :)
[18:09] <BigRedS> But FF has more marketshare so is default more frequently
[18:09] <shauno> is it in the default seed?
[18:09] <BigRedS> and it's got more extensions and the like.
[18:09] <BigRedS> I've lost track :) I know I've had to manually install it a couple of times, but I don't know which distros those were
[18:09] <shauno> I think ff & chrome have enough mindshare that people can find them if they want them
[18:09] <jacobw> its not as fast as FF
[18:09] <shauno> I mean, they manage on windows, without the help of the software store
[18:10] <shauno> really?  I use ff on mac & xp, where it feels like the bloated pig I drag out when I really need the kitchen sink
[18:10] <BigRedS> yeah, and there'd be no reason necesarily to not ship with them
[18:11] <BigRedS> I'm pretty sure ubuntu comes with both ff and chrome but only one as default...
[18:11] <BigRedS> Or have I only got FF 'cause this install dates from it being default?
[18:11] <shauno> well, that was my original query.  does shipping them mean we're going to start to see a browser that's difficult to support over a whole LTS
[18:13] <shauno> I mean, when 10.04 came out, 3.5.x was current.  now it's 5.0 and they want to drop security updates for 4.x
[18:13] <BigRedS> ah yeah. if the upgrade's not automatable, but the support ends also, that's a tricky situation
[18:15] <BigRedS> heh. just got told off by a friend for grumbling about being on call
[18:15] <BigRedS> she's just graduated as a doctor...
[18:17] <shauno> heh, well who's great idea was that ?
[18:18] <jacobw> haha
[18:18] <BigRedS> haha, nah, I've just had a "you don't know the meaning of on call", 'cause sitting around waiting for servers to break is apparently less arduous than trying to stop people dying
[18:19] <jacobw> i complained to a friend who works as a nurse on a dementia ward about my job being the same thing over and over again :|
[18:19] <BigRedS> haha!
[18:22] <jacobw> speaking of doctors.. i'm watching house season 7
[18:23] <jacobw> best season yet
[18:23] <BigRedS> Aw man, I've been meaning to watch that since it started
[18:23] <BigRedS> I keep not starting in order to start from the beginning
[18:23] <BigRedS> well, that's my excuse anyway. Really, I'm just awful at watching tv...
[18:26] <jacobw> i downloaded half it, watched it, was hooked and had to wait two days for the other half to download
[18:26] <BigRedS> haha
[18:58] <pete_> hey all
[18:58] <BigRedS> good morning
[18:58] <pete_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to pick up the hostname from dhcp
[18:58] <pete_> and set it
[19:10] <jpds> pete_: As in, set the system's hostname from DHCP?
[19:10] <pete_> yes
[19:10] <pete_> i have an NFS diskless booting environemnt
[19:11] <pete_> and I want the hostname to be set by what is sent from the dhcp server
[19:11] <jpds> You can tell the DHCP client to send its hostname to the DHCP server and have it set up DNS from that.
[19:12] <pete_> i don't really mind about ddns at this point
[19:12] <pete_> the difficulty is getting ubuntu to change it's hostname
[19:12] <pete_> it's just using the one that was in /etc/hostname
[19:12] <jpds> Yeah, it just sounds wrong.
[19:12] <zleap> s you want it to dynamically assign a host name
[19:12] <pete_> yes
[19:12] <zleap> is there not a file that lists ip addresses and hostnames
[19:13] <pete_> ie I add a stanza in the dhcp server to give it a hostname, boot the machine and off it goes
[19:13] <hamitron> option host-name?
[19:13] <pete_> well yeh
[19:13] <pete_> i did that
[19:13] <pete_> :)
[19:14] <zleap> have a look here http://linux.die.net/man/8/dhclient
[19:15] <zleap> The Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client, dhclient, provides a means for ... the client sends can be set using the -g flag, followed by the IP address to send. ... The -H <host-name> option allows you to specify the DHCP host-name ..
[19:15] <zleap> abiove bit is from the google search
[19:15] <zleap> ah -H
[19:16] <pete_> that's the wrong way round
[19:16] <pete_> I don't want to "request" a hostname
[19:16] <pete_> as a client
[19:16] <zleap> ok sorry
[19:16] <pete_> I want the DHCP to tell me what hostname I should be using
[19:16] <pete_> heh
[19:17] <pete_> no worries
[19:17] <hamitron> can't you specify it in the dhcpd config file?
[19:18] <pete_> well i have
[19:18] <pete_> but the client isn't accepting it
[19:18] <pete_> or is ignoring it
[19:20] <daubers> lo
[19:22] <BigRedS> hi
[19:22] <pete_> may have found something - looking now
[19:22] <BigRedS> oh, that actually works
[19:23] <dmtarmey> hello ?
[19:23] <pete_> hmmm well it now uses localhost - and not what was set in something else
[19:24] <hamitron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71587
[20:04] <Myrtti> hohum
[20:18] <zleap> anyone here,
[20:19] <brobostigon> o/
[20:20] <zleap> good that means i am still connected
[20:20] <brobostigon> :)
[20:20] <zleap> i seem to be subject to my router disconnecting and irc not telling me for ages (time out)
[20:20] <brobostigon> i see.
[20:38] <MartijnVdS> http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/5869967197/
[20:38] <MartijnVdS> Fun with Lego :)
[20:45] <BigRedS> haha
[20:48] <zleap> lego rocks
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> These guys are €2 each
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> (scientist, hazmat guys)
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> you don't know which one (out of 16 possibilities) you'll get though
[20:50] <penguin42> does the hazmat guy clean up after the scientist?
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: look at the next picture :)
[20:52] <penguin42> bananans can be dangerous
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> exactly!
[21:30] <dragonkeeper_> hi   how do i boot a iso file from grub     i tried  http://paste.ubuntu.com/632616/   in the grub.cfg file    but when i try to load it  all i get is a constant  white _     what am i doing wrong ?
[22:55] <Mat__> Hi
[22:57] <Guest80908> I can't log into ubuntu any more after it shut down, I was hoping someone could help.
[22:57] <MartijnVdS> Guest80908: do you get the login screen?
[22:57] <Guest80908> Yes, it accepts my passwords, goes to a black screen, then back to the password screen.
[22:57] <Guest80908> I can log in from the recovery console
[22:58] <MartijnVdS> Guest80908: if you select "recovery mode" (or something) from the graphical login menu, you should be able to get a terminal
[22:58] <MartijnVdS> Guest80908: then type "gnome-session" and tell us any error messages
[22:58] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin
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[22:59] <Guest80908> I'm currrently using a live usb
[22:59] <Guest80908> Nothing works from the graphical login menu
[22:59] <Guest80908> I can only get the recoery console if I access it through grub
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> if you select your username (before typing your password) from the login menu
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> you should be able to select a "recovery" option
[23:00] <zleap> nite all
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> y0 zl
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> hm
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> he left
[23:00] <Guest80908> ok, I will do that from the recovery console and be back shortly - thank you
[23:00] <MartijnVdS> Guest80908: no you should do that from the "normal" graphical login screen
[23:01] <Guest80908> If I change options from the normal graphical log in screen, to any of the other options (such as recovery/ gnome clasic etc) then it does the same thing - just goes back to the log in screen
[23:02] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[23:02] <MartijnVdS> did you remove packages?
[23:02] <Guest80908> No
[23:02] <brobostigon> do you have gnome-team ppa?
[23:02] <brobostigon> gnome3-team ppa?
[23:02] <MartijnVdS> evening brobostigon
[23:02] <brobostigon> evening MartijnVdS
[23:03] <brobostigon> ie,faulty gnome-session.
[23:06] <Mat84> Hi again, sorry, I was guest80908, but have switched to my gf's laptop as the live usb wasn't liking my wireless card that much
[23:06] <Mat84> heh, quite good timing!
[23:07] <Mat84> brobostigon - I'm not sure about gone3-team ppa, if it is something I had to manually add then no, I wouldn't have had it.
[23:08] <brobostigon> Mat84: yes, you will have had tomanuallyadd it, but there was anissue,similer to what you desribe, within gnome3's gnome-session fromthere.
[23:09] <Mat84> ah ok, no, I was using unity
[23:09] <brobostigon> ok, no, you wont have that issue then.
[23:09] <brobostigon> well, that ppa'sissue.
[23:10] <Mat84> I have tried to log in from recovery using fail safe graphics, but it is the same issue
[23:11] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[23:11] <Mat84> sleep well
[23:12] <Mat84> Does anyone have any suggestions for things that I could try?
[23:12] <brobostigon> good night Mat84 , thank you.
[23:12] <MartijnVdS> Mat84: if the "safe mode" doesn't work, I have no idea
[23:12] <Mat84> ok :(
[23:12] <Mat84> I can get to recover mode from grub though
[23:14] <Mat84> and I can log into the console
[23:24] <Mat84> Maybe I will have to reinstall
[23:30] <penguin42> Mat84: What's the last thing you did when it was working?
[23:30] <Mat84> Shutdown
[23:30] <penguin42> erm did you make any changes before that?
[23:30] <Mat84> nope, but skype had crashed
[23:31] <Mat84> no updates, no new packages or anything like that
[23:32] <Mat84> I can log in to the console via grub (loading recovery mode) - but not from the graphical interface from a normal boot
[23:38] <penguin42> skype crashing isn't too odd
[23:38] <penguin42> Mat84: OK, so what exactly happens if you try to boot normally?
[23:38] <Mat84> yeh, I certainly wasn't expecting this!
[23:38] <Mat84> so I get the normal Ubuntu logo
[23:38] <Mat84> the little noise, then the log in screen
[23:38] <penguin42> good
[23:38] <Mat84> click my name, put in my password
[23:38] <penguin42> then?
[23:39] <Mat84> it's accepted
[23:39]  * penguin42 waits in anticipation
[23:39] <Mat84> black screen, back to logon screen
[23:39] <penguin42> ok
[23:39] <Mat84> with the little noise again
[23:39] <Mat84> sometimes, there's a brief flash of console text in the black screen
[23:39] <penguin42> Mat84: What session type had you got selected on the login screen?
[23:40] <Mat84> it doesn't make a difference, they all do the same
[23:40] <penguin42> ok
[23:40] <penguin42> Mat84: Can you logon with the console?
[23:40] <Mat84> yeh
[23:41] <penguin42> good; can you do a graphical login that fails, then switch to the console and see if there is a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and see if there is an error at the bottom?
[23:41] <Mat84> ok, will try for you (you may have to be patient with me, not to great with the console yet)
[23:42] <Mat84> not that I can see
[23:43] <penguin42> hmm
[23:43] <penguin42> can you issue the command ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old  and see what it says
[23:44] <Mat84> it says /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[23:44] <Mat84> and I meant the file was there, but I couldn't see any errors (not that it wasn't there)
[23:45] <Azelphur> up to 13mbit/sec average on my dedi now >.<
[23:57] <BigRedS> #
[23:58] <Mat84> Hm, have read through the whole log, couldn't see any errors