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paul_what do I do when the package manager fails with an update?03:13
rana_hi03:20
rana_i'm having some problem installing wine from the software center03:21
rhin0installed xubuntu 10.04 -- can't get dual screens to work card -- nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310] (rev a1) have downloaded proprietary drive -- anyone?  previously I have had no problems with dual screen.  in settings/display it only shows one screen :(05:04
rhin0"twinview"?05:05
metap0dHi everyone, I want to try Xubuntu and was wondering what the difference between the alternate install cd and normal install cd is? I only have 650mb blank CD-R's and noticed the alternate install is the only one that would fit05:12
charlie-tcaThe normal cd is a GUI installer, the alternate install cd is a text based installer. Both result in the same installation05:13
rhin0any way I get the old type menus of xfce circa xubuntu 10.04 working with the xfce of ubuntu 11.04?  -- I don;'t like them05:36
RodenskyUsing Xubuntu 10.04, suddenly I got a dialog window with the following text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632198/07:08
gr8m8Rodensky: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?08:03
Rodenskyno08:03
Rodenskynot that i know of anyways08:03
Rodenskyi never installed it08:03
gr8m8you probably don't then - did anything happen after the popup?08:04
jarnosI consider installing mythbuntu on xubuntu. If I install mythbuntu-desktop, xfce4-notifyd and thus xubuntu-desktop will be removed. I suppose upgrading is not as easy, if I remove xubuntu-desktop.08:16
Rodenskyi never installed it09:24
Rodenskyo sorry09:24
Rodenskywron button09:25
Sysijarnos: easier than when you have two metapackages.. it will upgrade every single package and doesn't care about desktop-metapackages09:25
RodenskyI lost sound again09:25
poptisseCan anyone explain the following -09:41
poptisseOpen CompizConfig-settings manager (if you don't find it, just install it from Ubuntu Software Center).      Enable Workarounds -> Force full screen redrews (buffer swap) on repaint     Disable Workarounds -> Don't wait for video sync09:41
poptisseThe specific part being disable workarounds -> Don't wait for video sync and Enable Workarounds -> Force full screen redrews (buffer swap) on repaint09:42
Rodenskyplease help me with this problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632266/09:51
poptisseI have an issue with compizconfig settings I am not too sure how to apply some settings for a fix i am rather confused about it.09:55
gr8m8Rodensky: you need to find what you installed that has kde controlling the sound and remove it/configure it it seems10:05
Rodenskygr8m8, how do I do that?10:05
gr8m8Rodensky: in the package manager I would search the installed packages for kde10:06
gr8m8phonon is kde's sound server10:06
Rodenskygr8m8, I need the KDE packages for several softwares I'm using, is there no way to fix the problem without removing the packages?10:07
gr8m8Rodensky: I don't know what or where starts kde's phonon sound server or what to do about it - maybe someone in #kde might know10:08
Rodenskyok thanks!10:08
gr8m8luck10:08
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urnenfeldHello, I have installed xubuntu in a desktop where I had previously kubuntu. First one is not getting properly the screen resolutions as the second. Is it somewhat known or an easy fix?11:22
jarnosHave anyone else experienced that resuming from suspend to RAM is occasionally very slow in 11.04?13:28
BlackBerriesI have just done a fresh install of 10.10 and installed openvpn via the terminal. I import the config file - and the apply button is grayed out so I can't save the vpn and connect.14:13
Mandrewhello14:23
Mandrewis there a plug in for thunar that displays the amount of files under the folder so i dont need to enter it to find out?14:24
charlie-tcaMandrew: you agreed to folow the guidelines when you enter the channel. Please do so.14:39
charlie-tca!guidelines14:39
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:39
BlackBerriesopenvpn wont work in xubuntu14:40
charlie-tcaI don't know how to make vpn work14:41
MandrewBlackBerries, you already have a vpn settings panel in xubuntu that you can use, its just to add the vpn server settings into that14:42
BlackBerriesIt wont work14:42
BlackBerriesIt just constantly says14:43
BlackBerriesconnection failed14:43
BlackBerriesThough the details are correct14:43
Mandrewok14:43
BlackBerriesIt's not VPN side its something wrong with xubuntu14:43
BlackBerriesI have got it working in ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop with openvpn14:43
BlackBerriesbut for some reason14:44
BlackBerriesit does not want to work on xubuntu on my desktop14:44
Mandrewok14:45
Mandrewwell i have no idea right now how to fix the vpn problem you have just changed to xubuntu myself14:46
CenbeHave you tried vpnc? Works well here.14:46
BlackBerriesI don't have a cisco vpn14:47
BlackBerriesit says14:51
BlackBerriesconnection refused :l14:51
BlackBerriesffs14:51
BlackBerries_Mandrew: hey15:03
BlackBerries_sorry i d/c15:03
CenbeIs there a way to disable autocomplete in Thunar's location dialog (ctrl-L)?15:03
Mandrewnp BlackBerries_15:05
Mandrewdid you get the askubuntu.com post?15:06
xubuntu545ciao a tutti16:03
xubuntu545sono nuovo e vorrei far si che le estensioni si vedano sempre16:04
xubuntu545come fare??16:04
madnickHello, I'm getting: "reboot not tainted", and my computer refuses to reboot/shutoff17:59
madnickI have tried some grub settings, like acpi=force, pci=reboot17:59
madnickbut no luck17:59
maykoso I just reinstalled Xubuntu11.04 and my home folder is on another partition18:32
maykobut try as I might I can't seem to get my fstab settings right18:32
nadyלמי היגעתי18:32
maykoUUID=f6fb50fc-6709-47be-beeb-f1448e8a42ff /home reiserfs defaults       0       218:33
nady?18:34
maykowhen I get to the username/pswd screen and log in, it blanks, displays text too fast to read, and then returns me to the nsr/pswd screen18:35
maykoworks fine if i comment out that line18:35
maykohalp! <318:35
GridCubei don't know why but my installer started a "complete upgrade of the system"18:41
GridCubeD:18:41
GridCubei dont want that18:41
maykoaaaaaaand fixed. had to update the crypttab file so that the encrypted partition could be mounted on login :D19:46
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andycgod are all nicks registered :S20:58
moetunesno20:59
andycthankgod oh well guess ill need to ind a unregistered nick later and get helkp later :)20:59
Mandrewis there a Déjà Dup back up tool like software for xfce/ xubuntu?21:00
stoerenungeheuerhello there, does anybody know, how to tell xfce4 to rotate *all* displayed in the panel by 90 degrees?21:12
GridCubemmm21:14
GridCubeyou can rotate the text?21:14
stoerenungeheuerthats what im asking21:14
GridCubemmm i see21:14
GridCubeno idea soryy21:14
GridCuber^21:14
Poptisse"First, copy the easy-rsa directory to /etc/openvpn." - Where can I locate easy-rsa?21:39
Wizardgood evening21:39
PoptisseHey wizard21:40
PoptisseFixed the screen tearing, but now stuck with openvpn ha ha21:40
PoptisseI like how an official ubuntu tutorial does not even tell ya where easy-rsa is lol21:40
Wizardboth locate and apt-cache gave no results21:41
Wizardneither my wisdom ;P21:41
Poptissewhats the command? I'll do it myself if not i will have to create it i guess21:42
Poptissethough it makes out it alreayd exists21:42
stoerenungeheuerso the content of the xfce4 panel cannot be rotated by 90 degrees? (everything, incl. text)?22:17
Mandrewi want my xubuntu to be in pirate22:20
stoerenungeheueroh, nevermind i found the xfce channel :)22:21
Mandrewhehe22:21
Wizardin pirate?22:42
charlie-tcaMandrew: use deja-vue ? It will work the same as in Ubuntu22:43
charlie-tcawell, no22:43
charlie-tcadeja-dup is the right one for backup22:43
Mandrewcharlie-tca, so there is no "native" back up tool then for xfce?22:45
charlie-tcaNot one written by the Xfce developers, no22:45
charlie-tcaanything that works in GTK would be a good choice, though, since that is what Xfce is based on22:46
Mandrewok22:46
Mandrewaah well ill give it a go then, just wanted to stick with everything in xfce ;) im a new user of xfce and xubuntu22:46
charlie-tcaXubuntu is based on Ubuntu, so that whatever is in the Ubuntu Repositories should work with it22:47
charlie-tcaIt saves a lot of work if you don't have to re-write everything22:47
Mandrewthat is true22:48
Mandrewlol software center just gave up on me :)22:49
Mandrewoooh no not that tosser again ;)22:50
charlie-tcaI just use Synaptic Package Manager22:52
Mandrewi started up task manager and killed the process, that made it a bit happier22:55
Mandrewactually im wondering is there a security software that one can install in *buntu that works like you have usb-stick/ memory card as a "verification key" with out it you cant login on the computer22:59
charlie-tcaI don't know. You could store the entire /home directory on USB and remove it when you are not at the computer. Then all your data would be safe23:00
charlie-tcaYou can Encrypt the /home, and carry the stick with you at all times.23:01
Mandrewthat is a bloody smart thing23:01
Mandrewbut then again a usb-stick cant store that much info, so it kind off falls on that23:03
charlie-tcaHow much? 128gb, 256gb?23:04
Mandrewwell not that much though23:05
charlie-tcaThen a 256GB thumb drive would be big enough23:06
charlie-tcaYou could keep the entire operating system on it, even, if the system will boot from usb23:06
Mandrewbut i dont know if one can make mot than one /home but that would in its self kill the purpose with it, if one have a usb-stick on lets say 16 gb, its just to store the info one wants on it23:07
Mandrewthe carry the sensitive info on that23:07
charlie-tcaYou only need one home, you divide it into partitions to use both the hard drive and usb stick, like23:08
charlie-tcamaking /home/mandrew/most_of_my_music and /home/mandrew/encrypted_data_on_usb23:09
charlie-tcaThe OS doesn't care how many partitions /home/mandrew is split into, as long as they are valid partitions23:10
Mandrewso i can pin a /home on two different partitions?23:10
charlie-tcasure23:10
charlie-tcaI do it on some of my systems23:10
charlie-tcaI have /home/charlie/23:10
Mandrewthat is some deep stuff23:11
charlie-tcaand /home/charlie/VirtualBox and /home/charlie/Music and /home/charlie/Downloads23:11
charlie-tcaall on three hard drives23:11
charlie-tcaNothing says they must all be in one drive, but it does cause problems if they are not all there at boot23:12
Mandrewhow do i wright that into the installer? i have made a swap, /, and a /home on my OS23:12
charlie-tcaYou use manual/other partitioning, and create what you want23:12
charlie-tcaWhere that little box is to choose the mount point, type it in instead of picking one23:13
Mandrewok23:13
charlie-tcaIt took me a few times to get the partitions I wanted. It was not a one time shot for me23:14
* charlie-tca might be a little slow sometimes, too23:14
Mandrewthat is wicked stuff though23:15
charlie-tcaSome of the power of linux23:15
charlie-tca!partitions23:15
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap23:15
charlie-tcaThere' s some more information on it, but I haven't read all that.23:16
Mandrewok cool ill add that to my wicked list23:17
MandrewQtParted is that for gnome or kde?23:17
Mandrew!PartitionManager23:18
ubottuPartitionManager is a !KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !KPackageKit, !Adept or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install partitionmanager » in a !terminal23:18
Mandrew!QtParted23:18
charlie-tcaq apps are usually kde, g apps are gnome/gtk23:18
Mandrewaah ok23:18
charlie-tcagparted is the one you want23:19
Mandrewyea that is the one im used to23:19
Mandrewi havent used kubuntu that much, its not really my flavor, looks like broken x-mas tree decoration to me :S to much stuff going on there23:21
Mandrewaah well charlie-tca  thanks for the tip with the partitions23:26
charlie-tcayw23:30
charlie-tcaI am the same way with Kubuntu, I do test it, but it is very hard for me to use it.23:31
Mandrewyes the same with gnome 3 and unity23:31
Mandrewto much things going on there23:32
charlie-tcaUnity is great for the beginning linux from windows user.23:35
charlie-tcaThey expect it to be differenct, and it is. But it is quite easy for them to learn.23:35
Mandrewi think that xubuntu is a great newbie distro23:36
charlie-tcaIt is more aimed at intermediate users with some experience. Ubuntu installs almost everything the new user needs. Xubuntu doesn't do that.23:37
Mandrewthe one who thought of making it possible to open folders in the terminal is a genius23:37
charlie-tcaIt is harder to get some stuff working in Xubuntu that "just works" in Ubuntu23:37
Mandrewyou think? i havent had any trouble so far23:38
Mandrewso long one stick with the stuff in software center you be ok i reckon23:39
Mandrewbut i dont know what newbies normally try to do or where they mess up23:40
charlie-tcaWell, like the issues with vpn, which normally works in Ubuntu. Some of the video issues, are not in Ubuntu23:42
charlie-tcaalso, Ubuntu-One fails badly for us23:42
Mandrewlike play back of videos?23:44
Mandrewyea i saw that a user had some trouble to install openvpn earlier today23:47
Mandrewubuntu-one doesnt have support for anything els than ubuntu yet or have i got that all wrong?23:48
charlie-tcaI think kubuntu has ubuntuone, and windows might too, now23:55

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