| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| wgrant | apachelogger: Sure, either poke me or ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion | 06:20 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | wgrant: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/162746 :) | 07:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: google runs dbus? | 07:55 |
| wgrant | apachelogger: Ah, indeed. I will hopefully look at that tonight if I am not too jetlagged. | 08:01 |
| apachelogger | wgrant: thanks | 08:02 |
| wgrant | apachelogger: Renamed, and I've added a redirect. | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | uh, now that was fast :D | 08:03 |
| * apachelogger hugs wgrant | 08:04 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order beer for wgrant | 08:04 |
| * kubotu gives wgrant a nice frosty mug of beer. | 08:04 | |
| * wgrant -> further flights | 08:04 | |
| bambee | morning | 08:30 |
| CIA-52 | [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085121-4k64juw9s5eadbsa * (11 files in 4 dirs) import from whatever once was kdebase-workspace | 09:51 |
| CIA-52 | [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085154-4lgj6eb1vflw3kiq * debian/source/lintian-overrides remove plunder | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ping | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | yo bambee | 10:18 |
| bambee | yo! | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | you should totally become packager ^^ | 10:19 |
| bambee | until I get a response from upstream, I can continue to work on kde-workspace :( (or we need to package kdelibs-experimental) | 10:19 |
| bambee | apachelogger: me? | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | yes, like full time, stop doing stupid coding and such ;) | 10:20 |
| bambee | s/I can / I cannot/ | 10:20 |
| kubotu | bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 10:20 |
| bambee | kubotu: shut up! | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | actually, talking about coding ... patch the stuff away | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | kde-workspace as it is yellow, must not be delayed really | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | yofel: why did you not upload akonadi to the archive right away? | 10:21 |
| bambee | so we don't package the plasmoid which required kactivies+kdeclarative? | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | or perhaps that include is bogus anyway | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | who'd know | 10:22 |
| bambee | ok | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | bambee: you might however want to drop a mail to plasma-devel@kde.org to speed things up a bit | 10:22 |
| bambee | apachelogger: ok | 10:23 |
| bambee | "stop doing stupid coding and such " heh... :P | 10:23 |
| apachelogger | yofel: we should consider formattting the dep graph differently | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | it is sorta unreadable | 10:25 |
| bambee | see you | 10:36 |
| === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu | ||
| yofel | apachelogger: I'm open for suggestions. What I thought about was remove any package that only depends on kde-sc-dev-latest. Problem: not all packages actually depend on that so that would be bogus | 11:30 |
| yofel | apachelogger: as for akonadi: I'm no kubuntu-dev? | 11:30 |
| yofel | yet | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | zomg | 11:31 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626104605-bb3e4apvb3ajocwd * (5 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 11:46 |
| CIA-52 | Reintroduce 80qtgraphicssystem to set raster system for testing once more In Qt | 11:46 |
| CIA-52 | 4.8 raster will be the default rendering system, thus KDE needs to work well | 11:46 |
| yofel | raster works fine for a while now here, what did that even break before? | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | plasma-netbook | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | and kwin | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | and the combination of them | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | and rekonq | 11:47 |
| yofel | ah | 11:48 |
| yofel | can anyone reproduce lp 802131 ? WFM in oneiric | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 802131 in Kubuntu PPA "Unable to select text in KMail2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802131 | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | no | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | rproigram | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | that goes beyond typo | 11:56 |
| yofel | ^^ | 11:56 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626105653-1gbcio0wtzjtwqtp * bin/kgetsource add script to branch/pull source and grab src tar from upstream and add changelog entry | 11:57 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110631-gd5p0q4md8sn157t * bin/kgetsource introduce new tar class and link upstream tar to orig.tar.bz2 name | 12:06 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110831-hpiyb78rvbw0m43w * debian/changelog (log message trimmed) | 12:08 |
| CIA-52 | Introduce kgetsource to help with getting bzr branches, upstream source tar and | 12:08 |
| CIA-52 | other related stuff. Currently only supports ftpmaster. Usage like: kgetsource | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | oh | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | right | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | fun | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | yofel: what to do with kdepim? | 12:10 |
| yofel | leave in experimental and upload 4.6.90 to oneiric | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | but why | 12:11 |
| yofel | why leave in experimental? | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | cause I have not seen evidence that it qualifies for major distribution | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | neither have I seen a call for testing | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | but that is a given as the entire team fails to community stuff, but that is no news | 12:12 |
| yofel | right, partly my fault too I guess, esp. since it took me a while to get the packaging review done | 12:13 |
| yofel | but it's true that 4.6.0 isn't something to put into the archive | 12:13 |
| yofel | right now it doesn't list my mails in the kubuntu-devel folder for some reason o.O | 12:14 |
| yofel | I would see if 4.6.90 fixes anything and then think about where to put it | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | well | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | if anything 4.6.90 should go to experimental too | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | kdepimwise | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | which of course introduces inter-ppa deps and brrrrrr | 12:15 |
| yofel | Well, now that I have (hopefully) fixed any packaging bugs in kdepim I can put an announcement out that it would be nice if people could test it (if they know how to backup stuff) | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | yofel: oh, here is a good question: should the changelog contain entries from the old package? | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | such as kdeedu -> blinken | 12:22 |
| yofel | so far nobody seems to have done that, so I would start fresh | 12:23 |
| CIA-52 | [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112603-0wwku2cg6zc8c3i5 * (11 files in 4 dirs) import | 12:26 |
| CIA-52 | [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112935-b6f91f6mlu3jjfxo * debian/control bump kde-sc-latest | 12:29 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I can’t confirm the KDEPIM stuff on oneiric, but it seems like he/she is using natty | 12:29 |
| yofel | right, I have a natty PC I'll test on later | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | I am on natty and cant confirm it | 12:30 |
| apachelogger | best just have the dude create a new account and test with a new setup | 12:31 |
| CIA-52 | [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626113318-16z963smj3s9mije * debian/control add kdelibs5-dev bdep | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | license fail | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | I really dunno what shadeslayer was bitching about dep5 | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | utterly nice thing | 12:56 |
| yofel | It's confusing, but if you're right, if you handle it like a control file it's understandable | 12:56 |
| yofel | *bug you're right | 12:56 |
| yofel | *but you're right | 12:57 |
| yofel | typo day | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order beer | 12:57 |
| * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer. | 12:57 | |
| apachelogger | typo day must be celebrated | 12:57 |
| apachelogger | yofel: if I repack a tar to get copying in do I suffix the version with +copying or +repack? | 13:08 |
| yofel | no idea, did you take copying from the old tar, or..? | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: nah, upstream | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | ah | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you mean debian/copyright? | 13:14 |
| yofel | you were talking about COPYING, but I would say repack | 13:15 |
| yofel | do you know where to complain about missing copyright in smoke? | 13:15 |
| apachelogger | yofel: upstream | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | rdale IIRC | 13:18 |
| CIA-52 | [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122032-p7qmdz8guvfnh74e * debian/copyright update copyright | 13:20 |
| CIA-52 | [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122045-ao2rtq5m8bpyivbh * debian/changelog Repack tarball to include copies of GPL2 and GFDL1.2 | 13:20 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I shall be absent for the upcoming week | 13:46 |
| yofel | WHAT? | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | YES! | 13:46 |
| Quintasan | Worry not for I shall help with 4.6.90 packaging today | 13:46 |
| Quintasan | lol | 13:46 |
| yofel | k, if you get everything done today I won't complain :P | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | yofel: What's with kdepim-runtime | 13:47 |
| yofel | what's the problem? | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | Well, it's yellow and nobody is doing it | 13:47 |
| * Quintasan claims | 13:47 | |
| yofel | well, it's... well, you know... kdepim :P | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | more importantly we do not know where to put it | 13:48 |
| yofel | that too :/ | 13:48 |
| Quintasan | Why is that? | 13:49 |
| yofel | ask rysiek :P | 13:49 |
| Quintasan | Oh, that | 13:49 |
| * Quintasan does modules instead | 13:49 | |
| yofel | well, that too, but when I tried it just now it didn't want to list my mails | 13:49 |
| yofel | without any kind of error | 13:50 |
| yofel | just that the mail list was empty (after letting me wait for a minute) | 13:50 |
| Quintasan | I do not think we should bother with it until it somehow works | 13:51 |
| Quintasan | We are not *cough*Chakra*cough* to put something like that into archive | 13:51 |
| yofel | right, which brings us back to the question where to put kdepim 4.6.90 | 13:52 |
| Quintasan | experimental? | 13:52 |
| Quintasan | staging? | 13:52 |
| yofel | then I need to give out a warning to all users of 4.6.0 that we'll be putting 4.6.90 in there which depends on kde 4.7 | 13:52 |
| Quintasan | Well, isn't it better that shipping it to everyone? | 13:53 |
| yofel | and staging isn't supposed to be used for something like this, though it would actually be an option | 13:53 |
| yofel | well, true | 13:54 |
| Quintasan | I'm not everyone here so you'd want ScottK's and apachelogger's opinion on tht | 13:55 |
| Quintasan | that* | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | experimental | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | along with kdelibs and kdepimlibs copies of 4.6.90 | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | kdelibs and kdepimlibs are covered by ABI stability policy, so this should not inflict damage outside the pim modules | 13:58 |
| yofel | I'll post a news item for 4.6 later with a message to disable experimental if you don't want 4.7 | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | oh and akonadi needs to go in | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | yofel: how so? | 13:58 |
| Quintasan | This entirely sucks | 13:58 |
| yofel | ah, I forgot about the ABI policy. I guess there shouldn't be too much damage then | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | if anything we'd include 4.7 + 4.6.90 surely holds vast improvements over 4.6 | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | Why on Earth 4.7 depends on something so not isable? | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | usable* | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | Typo Day | 13:59 |
| yofel | well, upstream considers it usable | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | They considered 4.0 usable too :) | 13:59 |
| yofel | well and we shipped that, didn't we? ^^ | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | Well, at least 4.0 was marked as TP | 14:00 |
| Quintasan | noone forced anybody to use it | 14:00 |
| yofel | hm, kdebase devs are lazy. no symobl updates in kde-baseapps... | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | this all would be much less a problem with https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/373197 | 14:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 373197 in Launchpad itself "Virtual PPA (exposes subsets of packages as separate APT sources)" [Low,Triaged] | 14:00 |
| jussi | Quintasan: so how about you tell me some words you want in that factoid, and Ill fix it... | 14:00 |
| * yofel subscribes | 14:00 | |
| Quintasan | jussi: Fair enough | 14:00 |
| jussi | Quintasan: we could also teach Princess butterfly how to do it at the same time ;) | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | you tought me like 5 times already | 14:01 |
| jussi | rofl | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | not important enough knowledge | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | or too much booze consumed meanwhile | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | who'd know | 14:01 |
| * jussi smacks apachelogger over the back of the skull :P | 14:02 | |
| jussi | be good :D | 14:02 |
| Quintasan | jussi: Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | I always get them beatins | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | and never know why | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | it is wicked | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | yofel: promoting all that plunder to main is gotta be fun | 14:03 |
| jussi | Quintasan: that should be under !neon? | 14:03 |
| jussi | !neon | 14:03 |
| ubottu | The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | jussi: yeah | 14:03 |
| yofel | yeah, esp. since I have no idea how the current smoke packages are supposed to survive a MIR | 14:03 |
| jussi | !no, neon is <reply> Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon | 14:03 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that jussi | 14:03 |
| yofel | need some redo | 14:03 |
| jussi | !neon | 14:03 |
| ubottu | Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon | 14:03 |
| yofel | the techbase page would be nice to have in there | 14:04 |
| yofel | sec. | 14:04 |
| yofel | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE | 14:04 |
| jussi | yofel: generally we try to keep it to one wiki link, unless really necessary | 14:05 |
| Quintasan | kdeadmin done | 14:05 |
| Quintasan | uploading | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | you know | 14:05 |
| yofel | well ok, we do have the link on the wiki page | 14:05 |
| jussi | is that link on the wiki page? | 14:05 |
| jussi | :D | 14:06 |
| yofel | ^^ | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | the ~team/pkg/ubuntu branch naming is sorta stupid | 14:06 |
| Quintasan | omfg | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | ~team/ubuntu/pkg would be much bettar | 14:06 |
| yofel | make Riddell add aliases for that | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | well, generally it sucks a bit | 14:06 |
| yofel | well, ubuntu/* is taken... | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | bstds | 14:07 |
| yofel | make a 'packaging' Project | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | well, that could also work | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-packaging | 14:08 |
| yofel | we just need a kubuntu:kde-runtime alias and all would be fine | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | I asked jr for that | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | he did not yet come up with code | 14:10 |
| yofel | yeah :/ | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | of course superior VCS can have alises out of the box :P | 14:10 |
| yofel | yeah, though getting Riddell to add alias support is easier than making LP devs implement git support | 14:11 |
| yofel | fooey, konq-plugins is in kde-baseapps now | 14:12 |
| yofel | well, one source package less at least | 14:12 |
| yofel | wgrant: can you please rename the 'kdebase' project into 'kde-baseapps' ? Thanks | 14:16 |
| CIA-52 | [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626131931-tegmmq8qc0uhs6wq * (9 files in 4 dirs) import | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do you know of a script that can link an arbitary tar to one that qualifies as orig tarball? | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: or you perhaps? | 14:21 |
| yofel | hm, I think uscan does something like that when it gets a new package version from the watch file | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but that is built in | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: No idea, can't you just write a quick and dirty? | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | quick and drity haha | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | take a look at kgetsource in kubuntu-dev-tools :P | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | that thing to 3 classes | 14:24 |
| * Quintasan waits for build to finish and pushes kdeadmin to bzr | 14:26 | |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: no such file in there | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | bsides, ruby | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | :S | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: want a proof that GIT is not actually superior? | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: does it include prn? | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | nope, it includes 4.6.90 tarballs | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | show me prn | 14:41 |
| yofel | I believe that would just end up in proving that Dirk isn't superior and have no actual value for git :P | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: any idea if we still want http://paste.kde.org/88033? | 14:45 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ^ | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: so what is with me prn? | 14:45 |
| Quintasan | nothing | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | meh | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | about that patch | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | it is dirt | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | dirty package = dirty patch | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | and I blame you | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | The person named in the Author field signed this changelog entry. | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | Author: Michał Zając <quintasan@kubuntu.org> | 14:47 |
| * Quintasan purges it with fire | 14:47 | |
| Quintasan | Blame me if something bad happens | 14:47 |
| yofel | sure | 14:48 |
| Quintasan | Pushed. | 14:50 |
| yofel | meh, and there I was wondering why the list-missing output in kde-baseapps was empty | 14:52 |
| yofel | konq-plugins.install: | 14:52 |
| yofel | usr/* | 14:52 |
| Quintasan | lol | 14:52 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626135710-kqisj8mx230c2i7a * (bin/klinksource debian/changelog) Add klinksource to link arbitary tar.* to a qualified .orig.tar.* | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | yofel, Quintasan^ | 14:57 |
| Quintasan | Cool, but why bother? | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: how do you get hold of a .orig? | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | copy and rename | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | probably worng | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | wrong* | 14:58 |
| yofel | copy and rename in the same line :P | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | GOD DAMN | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | that still requires you to change the stuffz manually | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | what is the shortcut for ubuntu packages? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | major pointlessness | 14:59 |
| yofel | well, I have the new source in a seperate folder, so I would've to edit the script I guess | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | the pattern is silly enough to script that crap, just tell it the tar you want an orig for and be done with it | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | yofel: why do you have the new source in a seperate folder? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | build-area is all one needs | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | omnomnom build-area | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: which one? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | upkg? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | usrc? | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | whatever | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | vm | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | nvm | 15:00 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I use rsync to get the new tars? | 15:01 |
| yofel | so they end up in a new folder | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | scp FTW | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | also that is where the new kgetsource script comes in | 15:01 |
| yofel | well, I did use sftp and 'get *.bz2' for a while, but still | 15:01 |
| yofel | I'll consider it at some point | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | kgetsource :P | 15:02 |
| yofel | maybe for the next package | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | [Build #2593633] i386 build of kde-baseapps 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa3 in ubuntu oneiric RELEASE (kubuntu-ninjas PPA) | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | who be uploading kaput software? | 15:05 |
| yofel | me, I messed up konq-plugins | 15:05 |
| yofel | I wonder if I should just merge them into konqueror now that they're in the same source | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | DO ET | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | How do I force sed to write the change back to file? | 15:07 |
| tsimpson | add -i | 15:08 |
| yofel | nah, rather not, the source dir is seperate and there's no knowing when they'll move that around again, I'll leave the worrying to the debian folks | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | tsimpson: grep 4.6.0 *.install | sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0 | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | I do it like this | 15:08 |
| tsimpson | ah, well then you need to script it then | 15:08 |
| mfraz74 | Will this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/797067 get fixed in the Kubuntu Natty PPAs? | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 797067 in kdeutils (Ubuntu Oneiric) "kerfuffle_libarchive_readonly.desktop missing in package ark in natty 11.04" [Undecided,Fix released] | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson, Quintasan: actually that moots the point of having the files with their so version in the installs | 15:09 |
| tsimpson | Quintasan: something like: for f in $(grep -l 4.6.0 *.install); do sed -i s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g $f; done | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | What? | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | tsimpson: I did it with sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g *.install | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:10 |
| yofel | apachelogger: how? we're bumping to .7 | 15:10 |
| tsimpson | I don't trust sed with multiple files, not sure why now I think about it | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | yofel: It's just apachelogger mumbling | 15:10 |
| yofel | that's the same for ALL kde libs | 15:10 |
| tsimpson | besides, mine is 1337 | 15:10 |
| yofel | mfraz74: add a task for the 'kubuntu-ppa' project and I'll look at it later | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | yofel: for kdelibs | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | not for everything else | 15:11 |
| yofel | well, pretty much any lib that's shipped in a kde package was bumped | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | ah dang | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | forgot copyright | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | G | 15:13 |
| mfraz74 | yofel: how do I do that? | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | awoga | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | no copying | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | good lawd | 15:14 |
| yofel | mfraz74: also affects project -> kubuntu-ppa | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | kdemultimedia done | 15:17 |
| mfraz74 | yofel: done | 15:19 |
| yofel | thanks | 15:20 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/88063 | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | to kmix.install? | 15:21 |
| yofel | probably, doesn't look like a speperate mixer widget to me | 15:21 |
| * Quintasan rebuilds and uploads | 15:22 | |
| CIA-52 | [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142303-hxytsko89n2n598q * debian/changelog repack baby | 15:23 |
| CIA-52 | [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142331-qbg1yufhdg0s9t6y * debian/copyright copyright++ | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | ONWARDS, TO GLORY! | 15:23 |
| * Quintasan builds the easy stuff first | 15:24 | |
| apachelogger | watch out for missing license copies!!!!!! | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | PUSH'd | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | [ninjas]% kgetsource (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas) | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | [ninjas]% kgetsource --help (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas) | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | ^^ | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | HOW DO I USE THIS? | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: fcking useless | 15:41 |
| yofel | kdebase copyright is fun, I didn't know someone named | 15:50 |
| yofel | Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME | 15:50 |
| yofel | existed | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:51 |
| yofel | so much for proper copyright files from debian... | 15:52 |
| yofel | Copyright (C) 19yy <name of author> Isn't quite up to date either | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: kgetsource kdepim 4.6.90 unstable | 16:01 |
| JontheEchidna | moin | 16:03 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88087 | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | plz review : https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kate/ubuntu | 16:05 |
| yofel | morning JontheEchidna | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | then i'll push to kubuntu-packagers | 16:06 |
| yofel | you sure notice that nobody cared about the kdebase copyright file for 2 years... | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: ah, right, you need to define the epoch | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | for the tarball download it will be stripped automagically | 16:08 |
| CIA-52 | [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626151420-g2cehely0m0tkko9 * debian/control use ksnapshot page on kde.org as homepage | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well, you really ever only write a copyright file once :P | 16:15 |
| yofel | yeah, I'm at least stripping out the parts that are long gone and add konq-plugins | 16:15 |
| yofel | and trying to update the rest as possible | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | perhaps spdx will improve this at some pont | 16:16 |
| yofel | we need something to auto-generate a dep-5 file so one only has to recheck it | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | impossible(tm) | 16:20 |
| yofel | true :S | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | not without having a format for copyright and license info first | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | which might or might not be doable for corekde | 16:20 |
| yofel | well, the GPL header is somewhat specified | 16:20 |
| yofel | the rest... | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | it is not just that, it is how the license and copyright is formatted and placed etc. | 16:21 |
| yofel | k, kde-baseapps should be Done™ | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | there is a reason dep5 is so very strict in its definition | 16:22 |
| yofel | yeah, that dep-5 is script parsable is nice, that doesn't help in its creation though | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | I reckon that is what spdx is meant to resolve | 16:26 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: can you make kate-dbg Break/Replace kdebase-dbg? kwrite was in kdebase | 16:26 |
| CIA-52 | [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626152644-g73mmuayd3vmx9zs * (9 files in 4 dirs) * New upstream release * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics) | 16:26 |
| yofel | kdelibs-dbg probably too | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | why is there a kate-dbg?! | 16:27 |
| yofel | because there's a kate source? | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | we haz dbgsym | 16:27 |
| yofel | yeah right, make them enable that for PPAs | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | -dbg packages for 50 additional packages are nothing good at all | 16:27 |
| yofel | until then I'll always add -dbg stuff wherever possible | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | yofel: tell them | 16:27 |
| yofel | apachelogger: there is a bug, they don't want to do it | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | you drain production system user resources by introducing a bazillion dbg packages | 16:28 |
| yofel | they made it theoretically possible though | 16:28 |
| yofel | ok, I'll add an empty override_dh_stip: target then, better? | 16:28 |
| yofel | come on | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | they do show up in the package lists | 16:29 |
| yofel | we can't debug stuff without debug packages | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | means apt-get update takes longer, meaning the local cache will use more space etc etc | 16:29 |
| yofel | and we're using PPAs rather excessively | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | yofel: there surely is a better option than adding them manually | 16:29 |
| yofel | for PPAs no(t yet) | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | why not | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | how about dbg package injection | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | given soyuz allows this at all | 16:30 |
| yofel | I'm all for -dbgsyms, but as long as pkg-create-dbgsym is disabled in the PPA builders we can't use them° | 16:30 |
| yofel | s/°/! | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | pkg-kde-tools could inject the appropraite package into control when the build is in a PPA | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: ah yes, i forgot about that | 16:30 |
| yofel | hm, that might actually be an ide | 16:30 |
| yofel | *idea | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: why kdelibs-dbg? | 16:31 |
| yofel | iirc that kate kpart was in kdelibs | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | kate was in kdesdk | 16:32 |
| * shadeslayer_ checks | 16:32 | |
| shadeslayer_ | ah, yes | 16:32 |
| yofel | libkatepartinterfaces4 | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | anything else> | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88123 | 16:33 |
| yofel | control line 8 shows ascii junk, at least on the web 0;115;0c | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | @_@ | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: yes? | 16:34 |
| yofel | Vcs lines are missing | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: look at the link | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | and pwd | 16:34 |
| yofel | are you using pkg-kde-tools? | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: that explains why my link is kaput ^^ | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | Fix thos | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | this* | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | TypoDay-- | 16:34 |
| yofel | ~karma typoday | 16:35 |
| kubotu | karma for typoday: -1 | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: done | 16:35 |
| yofel | typoday-- | 16:35 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626153511-id3l07r8m1pm1ht4 * bin/kgetsource go into build-area and link the stuffz | 16:35 |
| yofel | pushed? | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | yuz | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | good lawd | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | someone write a mail to kde-devel and kde-core-devel about proper licensing | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | I am going mad here | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: anything else that you find wrong? | 16:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: did you push? LP didn't update yet | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh ... haven't pushed, one sec | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | done | 16:38 |
| yofel | well, you could remove the version from kdebase-dbg, but nvm that. Can't see anything obviously wrong there | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/88135 | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | SO MUCH FUN | 16:40 |
| yofel | apachelogger: want to look at smokeqt? That has no licensing information whatsoever | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | hahaha | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | i find versioned breaks/replaces better | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | you epople will have to look at the ksnapshot copyright file | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | it is ludicrous | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | like every kde developer holds copyright on them 10 files ^^ | 16:40 |
| yofel | sure, just that the package is gone now -> kde-baseapps-dbg | 16:40 |
| yofel | but right, less breakage potential | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok then, will push to kubuntu packagers | 16:41 |
| yofel | sure, can you review lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdebase/ubuntu r173 if you're done? | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | alright | 16:42 |
| * yofel takes a break and looks at #797067 | 16:43 | |
| Quintasan | It's me or kubuntu_05_samba_sharing.diff just got upstream? | 16:47 |
| Quintasan | The best day in kdenetwork's history | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: i think so, not entirely syre | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | *sure | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | rbelem: ^^ | 16:48 |
| * Quintasan hates bzr-buildpackage | 16:48 | |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: have fun at the skateboarding rampage :D | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | kk | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | Thanks | 16:50 |
| CIA-52 | [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155020-etrupqcvxwrn1maa * debian/copyright add copyright ole! | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer_: Any idea how to hook up bzr-buildpackage with pbuilder? | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | nope | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh oh | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: --builder pdebuild ? | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: found it here : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DesktopTeam/Bzr | 16:52 |
| * Quintasan uses pbuilder-dist | 16:52 | |
| shadeslayer_ | pbuilder-dist then ? | 16:53 |
| yofel | wasn't that a backport of the 4.7 samba sharing stuff in the first place? | 16:53 |
| CIA-52 | [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155434-xaoownvl6hb08ogd * debian/changelog repack++ | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | wtf : Uploading kate_4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied. | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | Note: This error might indicate a problem with your passive_ftp setting. | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | Please consult dput.cf(5) for details on this configuration option | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | Ignore it | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | LP haz some screws loose today | 16:54 |
| yofel | lp 798957 | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 798957 in Launchpad itself "Uploads are seemingly (but not actually) rejected" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798957 | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh so it was alread uploaded? | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | ah there we go | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | just got them mails | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: question, shouldn't the branch be renamed as well? | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | ( for kdebase ) | 16:56 |
| yofel | it should, but I need wgrant to rename the project | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | ah ok | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | I think we dropped our biggest patch file | 16:57 |
| yofel | I changed the vcs lines already, just the LP side of things needs to be done | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: we dropped shadeslayer_? | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | what | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | PATCH | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | lol | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | cat shadeslayer_ | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | imma patch? 0.o | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 16:58 |
| yofel | lol | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | kshadeslayer.patch :P | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | debian/patches/shadeslayer_not_bloggin.patch | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | : | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: i did blogz | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | cat "blog moar" > /dev/brain | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: yeah, i have another one coming up, but its about GSoC Work | 16:59 |
| CIA-52 | [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155948-14tzvg4z24rp0xdg * debian/control add xfixes and kipi, fortunately enough kipi is not packaged yet | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | dohohohoh | 17:00 |
| yofel | Quintasan: you frogot that dev/brain -> /dev/null | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | lol | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | . . . | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | U mad? | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | /dev/brain is actually /dev/random | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: y u no blog? | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ | 17:00 |
| yofel | well, I need to write up a summary for neon again soon | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: libkipi!!!!! | 17:01 |
| yofel | might as well think of some random blog topics | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: another question, weren't we aiming for modularity? why was konq-plugins merged into one package | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: No working EGL yet? | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: yes, i'm working on it right now | 17:01 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: how should I know? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | FASTARRRRRR | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | lol | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | MOAR | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: no, didn't look at it anymore | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: nearly done | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | kaput beyond repairz | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: then no blogs | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: want to do the copyright file? :P | 17:02 |
| yofel | at least kde-baseapps has copyright info | 17:02 |
| yofel | unlike smoke -.- | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: wait, so, all these plugins were seprate earlier? | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: you could tell me if the kispey has appropriate copying files | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | or else I could fix that | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | since I have all them stuffz open | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | you know | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | we could like write a gui for dep5 | 17:03 |
| apachelogger | it would be ultimately useless | 17:03 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: huh? they were in konqueror-plugin-* until 4.6.1 when debian put them into konq-plugins and now the source was put into kde-baseapps | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh ok ^^ | 17:03 |
| yofel | so not much binary diff from 4.6 to 4.7 | 17:03 |
| yofel | just different source package | 17:03 |
| yofel | but yeah, it was seperate before | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | it was only sep because it was extraaaar gear | 17:04 |
| yofel | oh right | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | new moin moin sux | 17:05 |
| yofel | now what did I want to wrok on again... | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ typo day | 17:05 |
| yofel | ah knosloe | 17:05 |
| yofel | mm works ok for me recently | 17:06 |
| yofel | after I finally managed to log in | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: new? | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | hahahahahahah | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | hahahahhahaahahahhaahhahahahaahahahaahahaha | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahah | 17:06 |
| yofel | /mute apachelogger | 17:06 |
| * apachelogger needs to go for a smoke now | 17:06 | |
| shadeslayer_ | ok kipi is mostly GPL \o/ | 17:07 |
| yofel | lucky you | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | I once had GPL | 17:07 |
| apachelogger | then I switched to BSD | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | now I haz no code no moar | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer_ | oooh | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer_ | not alot of copyright authors too | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer_ | only 64 including dupes | 17:08 |
| === ximion2 is now known as ximion | ||
| apachelogger | KIPSEY!!!! | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: wth is that? | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: shadeslayer_ is holding up the entire machinery | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer_ | . . . | 17:10 |
| yofel | there's plenty of other things todo :P | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | no there isnt | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:11 |
| yofel | which reminds me I need to do smokekde | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | actually | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | I should be preparing for them exams | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: gimmeh 30 minutes | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | and for them train rides | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | oh gosh | 17:11 |
| yofel | and I wonder if I should send a mail to -packagers re copying -.- | 17:11 |
| * yofel wonders what he should do with the bug that's crawling across his screen........ | 17:12 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: copying? | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | copy the bug | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | G | 17:14 |
| yofel | lol | 17:14 |
| yofel | copyright stuff I mean | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | today is not typo day, today is day of insanity | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | hey packagers, i have a bug for you | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: copyright stuff? | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | what ye mean? | 17:14 |
| yofel | apachelogger: the missing of it? | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: actually that would get yofel flamed for being funny | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: of where? | 17:14 |
| yofel | make that absence | 17:14 |
| yofel | lol | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | no distro but youbuntoo gives a rats booty | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | (I think) | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | (I am pretty sure) | 17:15 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/88153 | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | (actually I know for all the ones that upstream cares about) | 17:15 |
| yofel | apachelogger: well, try to do the copyright file for smokeqt, using None as copyright | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2011-04-26 06:26 /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL -> GPL-3 | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | O_O | 17:16 |
| yofel | or can we actually say the package has no copyright | 17:16 |
| * yofel doubts that somehow... | 17:16 | |
| * apachelogger thinks that copyright is not important as long as license is free | 17:17 | |
| Quintasan | what do I do with that one? | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | just like there is no obligation that the copyright holder must be a real person | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: copying | 17:17 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/88153 | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | so if licensecheck says the license is GPL, do i assume GPL 3? | 17:17 |
| yofel | Quintasan: that should be batchpatch -v 4:4.6.90 | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | since it's not specified which version of the GPL its refering too | 17:18 |
| yofel | maybe the file is so ancient that it means ^ | 17:18 |
| yofel | *1 | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | YEAH | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | #MISSING: 4:4.6.90# _ZNK6Kopete12OnlineStatus12protocolIconEv@Base 4:4.3.4 | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | bump on libkopete? | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: you should look at the source file | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | aha | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: red alert, red alert! | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | its GPL 2+ | 17:19 |
| yofel | Quintasan: if the symbol is public I think yet | 17:19 |
| yofel | *yes | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | licensecheck is busted then | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: huh? | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | how do I know if it's public yofel? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: is there a libkopete? | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: more importantly do we package libkopete? | 17:21 |
| yofel | get the function name from c++filt and check the source | 17:21 |
| yofel | first check if the file is even installed | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | even more importantly do we package the headers for that libkopete? | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | libkopete4 | 17:21 |
| yofel | listen to apachelogger | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | libkopete-dev.install | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | looks like we do both | 17:22 |
| * Quintasan bumps | 17:22 | |
| yofel | do we install the header files that provide that function? | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | ahahah | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: shoot the upstream | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: right now | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | quickly! | 17:23 |
| yofel | huh? | 17:23 |
| * Quintasan shoots #kde-devel | 17:23 | |
| apachelogger | no | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | #kopete | 17:23 |
| * Quintasan goes unicorn stampede in #kopete | 17:23 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: regardless of whether we install it, they need to bump their so before release | 17:23 |
| yofel | ah, right | 17:24 |
| Quintasan | Should I go and complain about that? | 17:25 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: more like, should I go there and make hell there | 17:26 |
| NCommander | ScottK: I looked at your patch for QT4, its san | 17:28 |
| NCommander | ^e | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: yes | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | I demand war! | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | What do I want them exactly to do? | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | to bump it and poke Dirk to include it in tarball? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | btw would this package name be alright? : kipi-libs-data | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | or do i make it kipilibs-data / libkipi-data | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | leaving for train | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | see y'all tomorrow or so | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: bye :) | 17:41 |
| DarthFrog | Will KDE 4.7 RC be packaged for Natty? | 17:58 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: libkipi-data would be my choice, as long as the package is libkipi | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | hmm .. ok | 18:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok kipi is done | 18:14 |
| === ximion is now known as ximion2 | ||
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: do we create new projects for every package? | 18:18 |
| yofel | yes | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok then, need to have a libkipi project then | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer_ | plz review : | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/libkipi/ubuntu | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: kdebase looks good | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | or rather kde-baseapps | 18:26 |
| yofel | :) | 18:31 |
| yofel | hey bambee | 18:31 |
| bambee | yofel: hey | 18:32 |
| bambee | I will ask on #plasma/plasma ML (don't worry), but in my humble opinion we should package kdelibs-experimental | 18:39 |
| bambee | see yourself http://paste.ubuntu.com/633147/ | 18:39 |
| bambee | and conclude | 18:39 |
| bambee | (libs/kworspace, kwin, plasma/desktop/shell ....) | 18:40 |
| yofel | no, plasma in kdelibs was fixed to not depend on experimental, same should apply to kde-workspace | 18:40 |
| bambee | really? I did not know that | 18:40 |
| yofel | that list is just great... | 18:40 |
| yofel | ah, you're not on packagers... | 18:40 |
| yofel | and Harald is gone -.- | 18:41 |
| bambee | no... | 18:41 |
| bambee | I should? | 18:41 |
| yofel | well, the pre-release discussion is done there, although you probably should do some more packaging since we need someone to vouch for you (e.g. Harald) | 18:42 |
| bambee | yofel: I already had a discussion with Riddell about that, he does not want to subscribe a non member user :) | 18:44 |
| yofel | I know, I remember it | 18:44 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: do you know how one should name experimental packages? libkactivities5-experimental ? | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | we shouldn't ship experimental packaages | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | -a | 18:49 |
| yofel | sure, but look at bambee's paste | 18:50 |
| bambee | yofel: I can disable plasma/generic/tools/remote-widgets-browser | 18:50 |
| bambee | but the rest... | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: it was decided on the plasma ml that they will insert headers in the plasma sources | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | and thus statically link against the | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | *them | 18:50 |
| yofel | when? | 18:50 |
| bambee | I propose to disable it because we cannot drop kdeclarative from it (see plasma/generic/tools/remote-widgets-browser/main.cpp) | 18:50 |
| * yofel clones kde-workspace git | 18:50 | |
| shadeslayer_ | it was on the plasma ml, and i can get you the thread name, but can't get the actual email link | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | cuz i can't access most of the kde websites | 18:51 |
| yofel | wow, kde-workspace git is huge, and it doesn't even have the wallpapers... | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | btw any issues with libkipi? | 18:53 |
| yofel | ah, didn't look yet, sry | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | the thread name is : [4.7 Beta1 blocker] plasma depending on kdelibs/experimental | 18:54 |
| yofel | I remember *that* thread | 18:54 |
| bambee | yofel: you should get it from ftpmaster.. :) | 18:54 |
| yofel | and kdelibs/plasma was fixed | 18:54 |
| bambee | (I mean, ftpmaster.k.o) | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | here's the thread : http://paste.kde.org/88231 | 18:55 |
| yofel | bambee: I wanted 4.6.90+ | 18:55 |
| bambee | ok | 18:55 |
| yofel | bambee: sure it's failing? | 18:56 |
| bambee | yofel: what? | 18:56 |
| yofel | there is kde-workspace/libs/kworkspace/kactivityinfo.h | 18:56 |
| yofel | so it shouldn't need kdelibs/experimental | 18:56 |
| yofel | or do they just include the headers and try link statically against kdelibs? | 18:57 |
| bambee | why there are exactly the same headers in kdelibs-experimental ? o_O | 18:57 |
| yofel | bambee: so it doesn't depend on kdelibs-experimental | 18:57 |
| yofel | which isn't allowed as we just discussed | 18:58 |
| bambee | ahhh... | 18:58 |
| yofel | hm, no, the .cpp files are there too, so there should be no reason for it to fail | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | bambee: try again with new tarball from git | 18:59 |
| bambee | shadeslayer_: ok | 18:59 |
| yofel | nah, there doesn't seem to be a change from 4.6.90 three | 18:59 |
| yofel | *there | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh .. then why does it fail 0.o | 19:00 |
| yofel | bambee: what's the actual failure | 19:00 |
| yofel | ? | 19:00 |
| bambee | I will try again | 19:00 |
| bambee | wait | 19:00 |
| wgrant | yofel: What needs renaming? | 19:02 |
| yofel | kdebase -> kde-baseapps | 19:02 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: libkipi looks fine | 19:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | \o/ | 19:03 |
| wgrant | yofel: Done. | 19:03 |
| * shadeslayer_ does the upload dance | 19:03 | |
| shadeslayer_ | wgrant: oh while you're at it, can you move a branch ? | 19:04 |
| * yofel hugs wgrant | 19:04 | |
| wgrant | shadeslayer_: Possibly. | 19:04 |
| wgrant | Which, and where? | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | one sec | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi now has a project : https://launchpad.net/libkipi | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kde-baseapps/kate now has a project https://launchpad.net/kate | 19:06 |
| yofel | while at it: | 19:07 |
| yofel | lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/kde-baseapps should be lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/master and linked to lp:kde-baseapps | 19:07 |
| yofel | kill the existing trunk branch | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: can i upload ksnapshot? | 19:08 |
| yofel | ask apachelogger, in his absence I would say yes | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer_ | well he isn't here so .. | 19:08 |
| wgrant | shadeslayer_, yofel: I can't move those, but you could through the API. | 19:09 |
| yofel | I'll read the docs later then | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | alright, thanks! | 19:10 |
| wgrant | from launchpadlib.launchpad import Launchpad; lp = Launchpad.login_with('blah whatever', 'production'); lp.load('/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi').setTarget(project=lp.projects['libkipi']) | 19:10 |
| * shadeslayer_ tries | 19:25 | |
| shadeslayer_ | wgrant: well i used lp-shell and it gives me a 404 when i run lp.load('/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi').setTarget(project=lp.projects['libkipi']) | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | here's the entire paste : http://paste.kde.org/88243 | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer_ | more weirdness ... staging gives me a KeyError 0.o | 19:32 |
| wgrant | shadeslayer_: Ah, launchpadlib bug. It tried to reload the entry with the old URL. | 19:32 |
| wgrant | So the move succeeded. | 19:32 |
| wgrant | https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/libkipi/libkipi | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | alright | 19:33 |
| bambee | piou... I have cleaned my processor fan... I won 25°C o_O | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer_ | fixed kate too | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer_ | wgrant: can you link those branches to lp:kate and lp:libkipi? | 19:35 |
| wgrant | shadeslayer_: Both done. | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | thanks :) | 19:37 |
| yofel | wgrant: and lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/master to lp:kde-baseapps | 19:38 |
| bambee | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633168/ | 19:43 |
| yofel | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkactivities is not linking statically... | 19:44 |
| bambee | have a look at plasma/desktop/shell/CMakeLists.txt (it's explicitly linked against kactivities) | 19:44 |
| bambee | shadeslayer_: found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=130596894032402&w=2 | 19:48 |
| yofel | right, which sounds wrong... try to remove kactivities in that line | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok wth .... i can open that url 0.o | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | but i can't open kde.org | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | uh | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | gwenview : image viewer | 19:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | thats it? 0.o | 19:51 |
| bambee | so the solution would be to link plasma-desktop against kactivities statically ? | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | bambee: yes | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | more of a workaround till kdelibs is fixed really | 19:53 |
| bambee | I agree | 19:53 |
| bambee | yofel: ping me when you've done for libkactivities | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | can't access launchpad now | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | wtf | 19:56 |
| * shadeslayer_ kills his ISP provider with fire | 19:56 | |
| shadeslayer_ | bbiab | 19:56 |
| yofel | well, if we can fix kde-workspace I would rather leave kdelibs as it is | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | any ideas what a debian/installgen file does? | 20:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | there's nothing about it on the new maintainers guid | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | s/guid/guide/ | 20:13 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ meant: "there's nothing about it on the new maintainers guide" | 20:13 |
| yofel | nope, was wondering that too... | 20:13 |
| yofel | could be an ancient predecessor of the .install files | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | well what is it doing in kdegraphics/debian/installgen then :P | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: oh also, are you using the "Kubuntu Packages" text while building packages? | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | in the rules file | 20:17 |
| yofel | don't think so.... | 20:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | should/shouldn't we? | 20:18 |
| yofel | I only see the kdelibs cmake file looking for that, but haven't check too many packages | 20:19 |
| bambee | yofel: fixed | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | hmm | 20:21 |
| yofel | bambee: good | 20:22 |
| bambee | workspace-wallpapers has been moved outside kde-workspace ? (no wallpapers are installed ) | 20:25 |
| yofel | right, that's kde-wallpapers now | 20:25 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/633179/ :D | 20:26 |
| bambee | yofel: ah ok | 20:26 |
| bambee | it does make sense then... | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | i think this is the longest copyright i've seen in KDE : Copyright: © 1991-2009, Thomas G. Lane. | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh fooey | 20:32 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | geee | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | what is the deal with them stupid mountains and their even more stupid tunnels | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | eek | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: you spammed me! | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | did i? | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | failed ksnapshot | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: the FTBFS? | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | ah blame launchpad for delayed publishing of packages | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_, yofel: installgen is used to generate .install files based on the ruleset in installgen | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | lord modax wrote it some time ago IIRC | 20:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: do we still require it? | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | dh_installgen is the bin that does the work | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: why yes | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | except | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | due to the split you mostly can install everything and your mom | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | as one source == one binary, thus rendering installgen useless for those usecases | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | for multi-binary sources it is still useful | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: is this file documented somewhere? | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | except no one of you knows how to use it :P | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | couldn't find it | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | puny humans | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | hahaha | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | must be the reason yofel is no kubuntu-dev | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | then again at UDS some comments from Quintasan_ made me wonder why he is :P | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: I think dh_installgen is in pkg-kde-tools | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | there should be documentation one way or another | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | though with modax I would say, he implemented a documentation paradigm like mine, meaning commit message documentation :P | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | well there's no man entry for dh_installgen | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | ... what I said ... | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^_^ | 20:59 |
| yofel | yeah right, apt-file can't even find dh_installgen | 21:02 |
| yofel | which century is that from? ^^ | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: my terminal is all sorts of fluffy :P http://i.imgur.com/GsIyY.png | 21:05 |
| yofel | http://old.nabble.com/Learn-packaging-td29507365.html indicates they're not used anymore | 21:06 |
| yofel | apachelogger is outdated :P | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | hahaha | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | I said they are useful, I did not say that they are used | 21:07 |
| ScottK | NCommander: And as an added bonus it seems to be working. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 21:08 |
| yofel | apachelogger: <apachelogger> for multi-binary sources it is still useful | 21:08 |
| yofel | hm | 21:08 |
| yofel | nvm | 21:08 |
| apachelogger | ... | 21:08 |
| yofel | at least we know we can ignore them | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | the format is rather tedious and IMHO prone to error though | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGPYSE4nXUM | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | what would make more sense is associate packages with folders then decide where to put stuff based on what target cmake got the files from | 21:09 |
| yofel | . . . | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | I might just implement that | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok wth everything just got installed into /usr/local :/ | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | you haz broken the packaging | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | congrats | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | i have a idea what i did wrong | 21:14 |
| * shadeslayer_ tries to fix | 21:14 | |
| sheytan_ | apachelogger did you see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc ? | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | nope, not working, still wants to install to /usr/local | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | sheytan_: thats quite old ^_^ | 21:32 |
| yofel | what happened to lightdm-kde btw.? (though the rc has priority right now) | 21:32 |
| sheytan_ | shadeslayer_: but still cool :D | 21:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah :) | 21:33 |
| * yofel uploads konsole | 21:41 | |
| yofel | that dput error is getting annoying... | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | btw any ideas why gwenview is installing stuff into /usr/local? ( rules : http://paste.ubuntu.com/633212/ , build log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/633213/ ) | 21:43 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: and where is the problem there? | 21:46 |
| yofel | you DO realize that svgpart is in another package? | 21:46 |
| * shadeslayer_ stares at changelog | 21:47 | |
| * yofel thinks shadeslayer_ is too tired to package | 21:47 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: you should rather stare at svgpart-4.6.90.tar.bz2 | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh | 21:47 |
| yofel | and then wonder why your gwenview install file wants to isntall svgpart | 21:48 |
| yofel | *install | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | i actually didn't check the build log thouroughly and thought it wanted to install stuff into /usr/local like last time | 21:49 |
| yofel | . . . | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah, i'm going to take a bit of a break after gwenview | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | i guess gwenview will also require svgpart as a depends now | 21:52 |
| yofel | doesn't in neon | 21:54 |
| yofel | could be a runtime dependency though. Or plugin | 21:55 |
| yofel | Plugin I guess | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | runtime dep imo | 21:57 |
| yofel | well, try to run it without it and you'll know ^^ | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh :P | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | or i could just remove the svgpart neon package from my install and run gwenview | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | ah well, it runs | 21:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: i'll put it in Suggests then | 22:00 |
| yofel | k | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: question, why does konsole-dbg only suggest konsole? why not depend on konsole? | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | because i usually put suggests and i got dbg-package-missing-depends from lintian | 22:10 |
| yofel | ah, I just kept that from kdebase, since it's a single binary package now Depends would be right | 22:10 |
| yofel | fixing | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | plz2review : https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/gwenview/ubuntu | 22:13 |
| * shadeslayer_ goes on a break | 22:14 | |
| apachelogger | sheytan_: it is on me facebook | 22:19 |
| * apachelogger arrived in graz once more | 22:20 | |
| apachelogger | yofel, shadeslayer_: you should voice opinion on branch moving thread on ml | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | if we move we better do it now before creating the other 30 projects | 22:20 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You saw I updated my opinion? | 22:21 |
| ScottK | I think I'm now up to "Fine, as long as I don't have to do it." | 22:21 |
| yofel | true... I don't care much about the links, but the projects are annoying | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: yeah | 22:21 |
| yofel | It does put our neon imports into the right place though | 22:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ | 22:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | was about to say that | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | I do not care so much about the work you have to do :P | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | i'm actually quite fine with setting up a project | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | ( for each of the branches we create ) | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | it's like 5 minutes of work ... | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | kde core has some 200 indivdual apps/libs | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | that is 200*5 | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | nono I say | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | besides, it goes beyond the scope of core KDE | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | like any thing we track in bzr needs a project | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | extragear, playground you name it | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer_ | but not all of those 200 apps/libs have their own git repos do they? | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | they will once the great migration plan is worked out | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | the long-term target is to have individual repos | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | even moar splitting? O_O | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | so we do 100 now and 100 more when 5.0 comes around | 22:25 |
| sheytan_ | apachelogger what do you mean not you on facebook? | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | the narwhals are on the friendface | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | I postered them like ages ago | 22:26 |
| sheytan_ | ah | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: sure, its a bit more work .... but it will only benefit us in keeping things clean and organized more appropriately | 22:28 |
| yofel | well, in absence of strong arguments for all those project I'm fine with a kubuntu-packaging project | 22:28 |
| yofel | YOU do the moving though this time | 22:28 |
| yofel | scripting it would be a good idea... | 22:28 |
| yofel | it means we need to fix all Vcs links again though too | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | pyth0rn scripting | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | weehe | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well, we are packaging right now, so... ;) | 22:29 |
| yofel | true | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: how does it make things more clean or organized? | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: everything is associated with their project pages? | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer_ | *because everything ... | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | and the project page is bigtime mumbo jumbo because it is really just a pointless replica of the one on projects.kde.org | 22:30 |
| yofel | as I said, It makes some sense for us neon maintainers, for the others it's probably pointless | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | yep ^^ | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: roll a dice | 22:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | ofcourse i'm biased | 22:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | so don't heed my advice ^_^ | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan_: okular package is bogus, it misses a copy of FDL for the documentation | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: you broke the ksnapshot table row | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | table what | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: kate has no license copy whatsoever | 22:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: you mean there's no license in debian/copyright? | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | no | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | there i no complete copy of the license | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | in the source | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | upstream issue then, want me send them a email? | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | you have upstream commit access, no? | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | yep | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | fix it, repack the tarball with copies | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | upload new version | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | hmm ok | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: oh wait, i can't commit | 22:45 |
| shadeslayer_ | commit server is down for me | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | yofel: FWIW konsole also misses FDL copy | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: whut? | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | ping git.kde.org | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer_ | From so-2-0-0.0.ejr01.fra002.flagtel.com (85.95.25.174) icmp_seq=2 Time to live exceeded | 22:46 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: most of the kde sites are down for me because a router at hetzner is down | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | wrong ip | 22:47 |
| yofel | oh true, I forgot about the docs :( | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: use a proper DNS | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | opendns for example | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | google dns also should be up-to-date | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: i use google's dns | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | +server | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | so it is no up-to-date :P | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | use opendns | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh | 22:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | alright | 22:47 |
| yofel | apachelogger: how do I fix that? | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | or edit yoru hosts file | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | 195.135.221.71 is the correct ip for git.kde.org | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do you haz commit access? | 22:48 |
| yofel | yep | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: gwenview also suffers from missing FDL | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | yofel: cp /usr/share/common-licenses/GFDL-1.2 COPYING.DOC | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | mind that you need to fix it in KDE/4.7 and then forward cherry pick to master | 22:49 |
| yofel | k, lemme check how you did it for ksnapshot | 22:49 |
| yofel | right, now I first need to read the docs again how one does that... | 22:49 |
| apachelogger | just open the docbook :P | 22:49 |
| apachelogger | <bookinfo> | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | <authorgroup> | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | <author> | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | .... | 22:50 |
| yofel | wth is GLGPL2 o.O | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | contains the authors | 22:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: i'm on a break right now, will fix laterz | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | yofel: in celebration of typoday | 22:50 |
| yofel | ah lol | 22:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | hahaha | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | also mind that the authorgroup markup can contain other stuff than the actual authors | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | like reviewers for example | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: oh for gwenview it is not actually a problem | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | the FDL notice is commented out there | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | agateau: your docs have no license my friend :P | 22:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | bbiab | 22:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: the ip is fine | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | shadeslayer@yofel-thinkpad ~/packaging/ksnapshot-4.6.90 » ping git.kde.org | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | PING git.kde.org (195.135.221.71) 56(84) bytes of data. | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | 64 | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer_ | the router at the dc is borked | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | tracepath to the rescue | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | can't access quassel core, kde.org, projects.kde.org, edu.kde.org and other stuff | 22:54 |
| yofel | fun | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | all kaput | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah, its been like that for 3 days | 22:55 |
| apachelogger | you should like call someone somewhere | 22:55 |
| yofel | make a tunnel through my server (note: I have no idea how to do that) | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ iirc you use ssh -D 5000 | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | but idk what to do next :P | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88405 | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | the google does | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | it is made out of knowledge | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: do i need any special perms for this? | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | the google knows | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | it is made out of knowledge | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | nope, still out ... | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | obviously i'm doing it wrong :P | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | it happens | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | awoga | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | germinate be using the old core-dev branch in the natty | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | silly beast | 23:03 |
| * yofel looks for that git thread in kde-core-devel | 23:04 | |
| yofel | before I do something totally silly... | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: would yofel need to open up a port on his router as well? | 23:07 |
| yofel | apachelogger: ok, where do I fix that first? master or KDE/4.7 | 23:07 |
| yofel | I have a few ports open, lemme look what range | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: the google will know | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | it is made out of knowledge | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | yofel: branch then cherry-pick to master | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/553484 | 23:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 553484 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Reconsider ooo draw on CD" [Low,Confirmed] | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | plz tell me opinions | 23:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: 23301-23400 is forwareded, something in the middle of that should work | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok | 23:10 |
| yofel | typoday-- | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | typoday++ | 23:10 |
| yofel | k, I think I've gotten where in that docbook the licensing info is. It doesn't state the license though | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections. | 23:12 |
| yofel | ah wait, FDL | 23:13 |
| yofel | now... | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | spam spam spam spam | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | spam | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | egg with bacon and spam | 23:13 |
| yofel | fried spam | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: if nothing else deps on ooo draw ( except impress ) kick it off | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: well, that cuts impress in half | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | I am not even sure it would be possible | 23:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | huh | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | debug2: channel 12: pre_dynamic: have 0 | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it is a highly integrated part | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | dunno what that means | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | all the box drawing mumbo jumbo is done by draw I reckon | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: kick both off the CD? | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | you propose we do not ship a presentation app by default? | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | what have you been smokin' :O | 23:16 |
| yofel | hard to make my mind up here, I used draw like... twice? | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | Google Docs++ | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | move everything to the cloud :P | 23:16 |
| yofel | never used that yet ^^ | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ never used OOo | 23:16 |
| yofel | heh | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | oh btw Kubuntu on the cloud would be fun | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | define | 23:17 |
| yofel | k, switched to branch KDE/4.7 | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: multiple kubuntu instances running on a Amazon EC2 machine | 23:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | s/a/multiple/ | 23:19 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ meant: "multiplepachelogger: multiple kubuntu instances running on a Amazon EC2 machine" | 23:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | LOL ^^ | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | you my dear friend do not know how to use sed | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | also | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | define | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | TBL's original WWW proposal was less vague than what you are talking about | 23:20 |
| yofel | I'll use your commit message | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | with the typo plz | 23:22 |
| yofel | I don't add any LGPL :P | 23:22 |
| apachelogger | that was no typo :P | 23:22 |
| yofel | oh wait, konsole HAS stuff under the LGPL... | 23:23 |
| yofel | heck, even MIT -.- | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | huh interesting, i can use : curl --socks5 localhost:23340 google.com | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | yofel: MIT is a copy by itself :P | 23:24 |
| yofel | yeah | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: that is one way to operate the googlez | 23:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | alright, i can curl sites | 23:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | but firefox doesn't want to open them :P | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | firefail | 23:26 |
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| yofel | gaah, your stupid typos are confusing me -.- | 23:28 |
| apachelogger | "A: My shoutcase is not working; B: Hit your capslock key" | 23:28 |
| apachelogger | it is one of me favorite quotes from randa | 23:28 |
| yofel | haha | 23:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | \o/ | 23:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | i haz kde.org | 23:31 |
| yofel | write a wiki page on how you did it | 23:32 |
| yofel | or get me your shell log :P | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | blogz it | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | also | 23:32 |
| yofel | oh yeah, preferred method | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | it is rather boring news | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | I haz kde.org for years | 23:32 |
| yofel | lol | 23:32 |
| yofel | GLGPL2 makes you dizzy just trying to understand it... | 23:35 |
| apachelogger | gnu | 23:36 |
| apachelogger | lesser | 23:36 |
| apachelogger | general | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | public | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | license | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | two | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | [x] bug fixed | 23:37 |
| yofel | sure, it's still abbreviated by LGPL :P | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | not my fault that people cannot read :P | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | GPL2 | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | gnu | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | general | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | public | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | license | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | two | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | [x] qed | 23:37 |
| yofel | I know, blame whoever did it... | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | I shall blame shadeslayer_ | 23:38 |
| yofel | LOL | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | [x] blame distribution successful | 23:38 |
| yofel | ah well, people will at least know who got me to add the files... | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | righto | 23:38 |
| apachelogger | general question of interest: whatever happened to JontheEchidna | 23:39 |
| JontheEchidna | summer job | 23:39 |
| yofel | iirc he has a job now, and WAS there today for a minute | 23:39 |
| yofel | oh hey | 23:39 |
| JontheEchidna | o/ | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | you are a poor soul JontheEchidna | 23:39 |
| yofel | apachelogger: ok, now I have: http://paste.kde.org/88441 | 23:40 |
| yofel | in KDE/4.7 - push? | 23:40 |
| JontheEchidna | working on a 1.1.85 release for muon. Waiting on tarballs to propogate to the various KDE mirrors | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | yofel: yus | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | and master | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | dont forget the maters | 23:40 |
| yofel | adds COPYING.DOC and COPYING.LIB | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | or else | 23:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: heh typo | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: talking about the muonz, do we put the manager on the CD? | 23:40 |
| apachelogger | also the updater has scary UI | 23:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: perhasp it was, perhusp it was not | 23:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh :) | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Since MSC doesn't do non-app packages, I think we should get muon on the CD. (It is currently on the CD in a provisional manner) | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm also planning on a separate UI for the updater in 1.3. I have some notes in the todo in the source | 23:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: couldn't you add search based no-app capability to the MSC? | 23:42 |
| yofel | yay, first kde git commit ^^ http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=konsole.git&a=commit&h=f04e45f421c476d614550cc78401b3f34686102a | 23:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel++ | 23:43 |
| yofel | now... how do you cherry pick again... | 23:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | yofel: git cherry-pick <sha1> | 23:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok bbiab | 23:43 |
| yofel | so, git checkout master -> git cherry-pick... ? | 23:43 |
| apachelogger | yus | 23:43 |
| yofel | k | 23:43 |
| apachelogger | as a matter of fact the short sha should be sufficient to cp | 23:44 |
| yofel | right | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | (and you should have the short sha in your terminal somewhere from the commits) | 23:44 |
| yofel | well, you can use any part of the sha as long as it's not bogus | 23:44 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 23:45 |
| yofel | hey | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | quassel core tunneled over SOCKS xD | 23:45 |
| yofel | http://commits.kde.org/konsole/c8903d90f6835e5bb9d17cec91ed051579f860a7 | 23:46 |
| yofel | that wasn't as complicated as I feared... | 23:46 |
| apachelogger | yofel: are you in #kde-devel? | 23:47 |
| yofel | jus | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | tsdgeos will probably poke you about your funny spelling of LGPL then :P | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | haha :P | 23:47 |
| yofel | sure, I'll blame you | 23:48 |
| yofel | that guy sure is persistent about negative kcalc behaviour... | 23:49 |
| yofel | k, now to fix konsole package... | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | ok now i have no idea how to get a SOCKS proxy in a shell | 23:51 |
| yofel | uh... | 23:54 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ksnapshot_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 haz no COPYING files | 23:55 |
| apachelogger | I wonder if me bug report was too uglies | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: great job there | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | s/bug report/bug comment/ | 23:57 |
| kubotu | apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | rightz | 23:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: where? | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | where what? | 23:57 |
| yofel | ksnapshot | 23:57 |
| apachelogger | snap | 23:58 |
| yofel | re-upload as repack2, this time WITH copyrights | 23:58 |
| shadeslayer | <apachelogger> shadeslayer: great job there | 23:58 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ where? | 23:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kaput ksnapshot tar | 23:58 |
| shadeslayer | oh derp | 23:59 |
| apachelogger | now the only way to get a new tar in is repack1 | 23:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sorry | 23:59 |
| shadeslayer | i should have realized that before i uploaded that ... | 23:59 |
| apachelogger | there is a reason I suffixed with +repack :P | 23:59 |
| apachelogger | though I probably did not mention why in the changelog | 23:59 |
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