=== tazz_ is now known as tazz [06:20] apachelogger: Sure, either poke me or ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion [07:54] wgrant: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/162746 :) [07:55] shadeslayer: google runs dbus? [08:01] apachelogger: Ah, indeed. I will hopefully look at that tonight if I am not too jetlagged. [08:02] wgrant: thanks [08:03] apachelogger: Renamed, and I've added a redirect. [08:03] uh, now that was fast :D [08:04] * apachelogger hugs wgrant [08:04] kubotu: order beer for wgrant [08:04] * kubotu gives wgrant a nice frosty mug of beer. [08:04] * wgrant -> further flights [08:30] morning [09:51] [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085121-4k64juw9s5eadbsa * (11 files in 4 dirs) import from whatever once was kdebase-workspace [09:51] [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085154-4lgj6eb1vflw3kiq * debian/source/lintian-overrides remove plunder [10:18] yofel: ping [10:18] yo bambee [10:18] yo! [10:19] you should totally become packager ^^ [10:19] until I get a response from upstream, I can continue to work on kde-workspace :( (or we need to package kdelibs-experimental) [10:20] apachelogger: me? [10:20] yes, like full time, stop doing stupid coding and such ;) [10:20] s/I can / I cannot/ [10:20] bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [10:20] kubotu: shut up! [10:20] actually, talking about coding ... patch the stuff away [10:21] kde-workspace as it is yellow, must not be delayed really [10:21] yofel: why did you not upload akonadi to the archive right away? [10:21] so we don't package the plasmoid which required kactivies+kdeclarative? [10:22] yeah [10:22] or perhaps that include is bogus anyway [10:22] who'd know [10:22] ok [10:22] bambee: you might however want to drop a mail to plasma-devel@kde.org to speed things up a bit [10:23] apachelogger: ok [10:23] "stop doing stupid coding and such " heh... :P [10:25] yofel: we should consider formattting the dep graph differently [10:25] it is sorta unreadable [10:36] see you === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [11:30] apachelogger: I'm open for suggestions. What I thought about was remove any package that only depends on kde-sc-dev-latest. Problem: not all packages actually depend on that so that would be bogus [11:30] apachelogger: as for akonadi: I'm no kubuntu-dev? [11:31] yet [11:31] zomg [11:46] [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626104605-bb3e4apvb3ajocwd * (5 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) [11:46] Reintroduce 80qtgraphicssystem to set raster system for testing once more In Qt [11:46] 4.8 raster will be the default rendering system, thus KDE needs to work well [11:47] raster works fine for a while now here, what did that even break before? [11:47] plasma-netbook [11:47] and kwin [11:47] and the combination of them [11:47] and rekonq [11:48] ah [11:54] can anyone reproduce lp 802131 ? WFM in oneiric [11:54] Launchpad bug 802131 in Kubuntu PPA "Unable to select text in KMail2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802131 [11:54] no [11:56] rproigram [11:56] that goes beyond typo [11:56] ^^ [11:57] [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626105653-1gbcio0wtzjtwqtp * bin/kgetsource add script to branch/pull source and grab src tar from upstream and add changelog entry [12:06] [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110631-gd5p0q4md8sn157t * bin/kgetsource introduce new tar class and link upstream tar to orig.tar.bz2 name [12:08] [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110831-hpiyb78rvbw0m43w * debian/changelog (log message trimmed) [12:08] Introduce kgetsource to help with getting bzr branches, upstream source tar and [12:08] other related stuff. Currently only supports ftpmaster. Usage like: kgetsource [12:10] oh [12:10] right [12:10] fun [12:10] yofel: what to do with kdepim? [12:10] leave in experimental and upload 4.6.90 to oneiric [12:11] but why [12:11] why leave in experimental? [12:11] cause I have not seen evidence that it qualifies for major distribution [12:11] neither have I seen a call for testing [12:12] but that is a given as the entire team fails to community stuff, but that is no news [12:13] right, partly my fault too I guess, esp. since it took me a while to get the packaging review done [12:13] but it's true that 4.6.0 isn't something to put into the archive [12:14] right now it doesn't list my mails in the kubuntu-devel folder for some reason o.O [12:14] I would see if 4.6.90 fixes anything and then think about where to put it [12:14] well [12:14] if anything 4.6.90 should go to experimental too [12:15] kdepimwise [12:15] which of course introduces inter-ppa deps and brrrrrr [12:16] Well, now that I have (hopefully) fixed any packaging bugs in kdepim I can put an announcement out that it would be nice if people could test it (if they know how to backup stuff) [12:22] yofel: oh, here is a good question: should the changelog contain entries from the old package? [12:22] such as kdeedu -> blinken [12:23] so far nobody seems to have done that, so I would start fresh [12:26] [blinken] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112603-0wwku2cg6zc8c3i5 * (11 files in 4 dirs) import [12:29] [blinken] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112935-b6f91f6mlu3jjfxo * debian/control bump kde-sc-latest [12:29] apachelogger: I can’t confirm the KDEPIM stuff on oneiric, but it seems like he/she is using natty [12:30] right, I have a natty PC I'll test on later [12:30] I am on natty and cant confirm it [12:31] best just have the dude create a new account and test with a new setup [12:33] [blinken] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626113318-16z963smj3s9mije * debian/control add kdelibs5-dev bdep [12:51] license fail [12:51] \o/ [12:56] I really dunno what shadeslayer was bitching about dep5 [12:56] utterly nice thing [12:56] It's confusing, but if you're right, if you handle it like a control file it's understandable [12:56] *bug you're right [12:57] *but you're right [12:57] typo day [12:57] kubotu: order beer [12:57] * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer. [12:57] typo day must be celebrated [13:08] yofel: if I repack a tar to get copying in do I suffix the version with +copying or +repack? [13:09] no idea, did you take copying from the old tar, or..? [13:14] yofel: nah, upstream [13:14] ah [13:14] yofel: you mean debian/copyright? [13:15] you were talking about COPYING, but I would say repack [13:15] do you know where to complain about missing copyright in smoke? [13:18] yofel: upstream [13:18] rdale IIRC [13:20] [blinken] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122032-p7qmdz8guvfnh74e * debian/copyright update copyright [13:20] [blinken] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122045-ao2rtq5m8bpyivbh * debian/changelog Repack tarball to include copies of GPL2 and GFDL1.2 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:46] apachelogger: I shall be absent for the upcoming week [13:46] WHAT? [13:46] YES! [13:46] Worry not for I shall help with 4.6.90 packaging today [13:46] lol [13:47] k, if you get everything done today I won't complain :P [13:47] yofel: What's with kdepim-runtime [13:47] what's the problem? [13:47] Well, it's yellow and nobody is doing it [13:47] * Quintasan claims [13:48] well, it's... well, you know... kdepim :P [13:48] more importantly we do not know where to put it [13:48] that too :/ [13:49] Why is that? [13:49] ask rysiek :P [13:49] Oh, that [13:49] * Quintasan does modules instead [13:49] well, that too, but when I tried it just now it didn't want to list my mails [13:50] without any kind of error [13:50] just that the mail list was empty (after letting me wait for a minute) [13:51] I do not think we should bother with it until it somehow works [13:51] We are not *cough*Chakra*cough* to put something like that into archive [13:52] right, which brings us back to the question where to put kdepim 4.6.90 [13:52] experimental? [13:52] staging? [13:52] then I need to give out a warning to all users of 4.6.0 that we'll be putting 4.6.90 in there which depends on kde 4.7 [13:53] Well, isn't it better that shipping it to everyone? [13:53] and staging isn't supposed to be used for something like this, though it would actually be an option [13:54] well, true [13:55] I'm not everyone here so you'd want ScottK's and apachelogger's opinion on tht [13:55] that* [13:57] experimental [13:57] along with kdelibs and kdepimlibs copies of 4.6.90 [13:58] kdelibs and kdepimlibs are covered by ABI stability policy, so this should not inflict damage outside the pim modules [13:58] I'll post a news item for 4.6 later with a message to disable experimental if you don't want 4.7 [13:58] oh and akonadi needs to go in [13:58] yofel: how so? [13:58] This entirely sucks [13:59] ah, I forgot about the ABI policy. I guess there shouldn't be too much damage then [13:59] if anything we'd include 4.7 + 4.6.90 surely holds vast improvements over 4.6 [13:59] Why on Earth 4.7 depends on something so not isable? [13:59] usable* [13:59] Typo Day [13:59] well, upstream considers it usable [13:59] They considered 4.0 usable too :) [13:59] well and we shipped that, didn't we? ^^ [14:00] Well, at least 4.0 was marked as TP [14:00] noone forced anybody to use it [14:00] hm, kdebase devs are lazy. no symobl updates in kde-baseapps... [14:00] this all would be much less a problem with https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/373197 [14:00] Ubuntu bug 373197 in Launchpad itself "Virtual PPA (exposes subsets of packages as separate APT sources)" [Low,Triaged] [14:00] Quintasan: so how about you tell me some words you want in that factoid, and Ill fix it... [14:00] * yofel subscribes [14:00] jussi: Fair enough [14:01] Quintasan: we could also teach Princess butterfly how to do it at the same time ;) [14:01] you tought me like 5 times already [14:01] rofl [14:01] not important enough knowledge [14:01] or too much booze consumed meanwhile [14:01] who'd know [14:02] * jussi smacks apachelogger over the back of the skull :P [14:02] be good :D [14:02] jussi: Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon [14:02] I always get them beatins [14:03] and never know why [14:03] it is wicked [14:03] yofel: promoting all that plunder to main is gotta be fun [14:03] Quintasan: that should be under !neon? [14:03] !neon [14:03] The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon [14:03] jussi: yeah [14:03] yeah, esp. since I have no idea how the current smoke packages are supposed to survive a MIR [14:03] !no, neon is Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon [14:03] I'll remember that jussi [14:03] need some redo [14:03] !neon [14:03] Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon [14:04] the techbase page would be nice to have in there [14:04] sec. [14:04] http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE [14:05] yofel: generally we try to keep it to one wiki link, unless really necessary [14:05] kdeadmin done [14:05] uploading [14:05] you know [14:05] well ok, we do have the link on the wiki page [14:05] is that link on the wiki page? [14:06] :D [14:06] ^^ [14:06] the ~team/pkg/ubuntu branch naming is sorta stupid [14:06] omfg [14:06] ~team/ubuntu/pkg would be much bettar [14:06] make Riddell add aliases for that [14:06] well, generally it sucks a bit [14:06] well, ubuntu/* is taken... [14:07] yeah [14:07] bstds [14:07] make a 'packaging' Project [14:07] well, that could also work [14:08] kubuntu-packaging [14:09] we just need a kubuntu:kde-runtime alias and all would be fine [14:10] I asked jr for that [14:10] he did not yet come up with code [14:10] yeah :/ [14:10] of course superior VCS can have alises out of the box :P [14:11] yeah, though getting Riddell to add alias support is easier than making LP devs implement git support [14:12] fooey, konq-plugins is in kde-baseapps now [14:12] well, one source package less at least [14:16] wgrant: can you please rename the 'kdebase' project into 'kde-baseapps' ? Thanks [14:19] [kruler] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626131931-tegmmq8qc0uhs6wq * (9 files in 4 dirs) import [14:21] yofel: do you know of a script that can link an arbitary tar to one that qualifies as orig tarball? [14:21] Quintasan: or you perhaps? [14:21] hm, I think uscan does something like that when it gets a new package version from the watch file [14:22] yeah, but that is built in [14:24] apachelogger: No idea, can't you just write a quick and dirty? [14:24] quick and drity haha [14:24] take a look at kgetsource in kubuntu-dev-tools :P [14:24] that thing to 3 classes [14:26] * Quintasan waits for build to finish and pushes kdeadmin to bzr [14:27] apachelogger: no such file in there [14:27] bsides, ruby [14:27] :S [14:29] apachelogger: want a proof that GIT is not actually superior? [14:32] Quintasan: does it include prn? [14:32] nope, it includes 4.6.90 tarballs [14:41] show me prn [14:41] I believe that would just end up in proving that Dirk isn't superior and have no actual value for git :P [14:45] apachelogger: any idea if we still want http://paste.kde.org/88033? [14:45] yofel: ^ [14:45] Quintasan: so what is with me prn? [14:46] nothing [14:46] meh [14:46] about that patch [14:46] it is dirt [14:46] dirty package = dirty patch [14:46] and I blame you [14:47] The person named in the Author field signed this changelog entry. [14:47] Author: Michał Zając [14:47] * Quintasan purges it with fire [14:47] Blame me if something bad happens [14:48] sure [14:50] Pushed. [14:52] meh, and there I was wondering why the list-missing output in kde-baseapps was empty [14:52] konq-plugins.install: [14:52] usr/* [14:52] lol [14:57] [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626135710-kqisj8mx230c2i7a * (bin/klinksource debian/changelog) Add klinksource to link arbitary tar.* to a qualified .orig.tar.* [14:57] yofel, Quintasan^ [14:57] Cool, but why bother? [14:58] Quintasan: how do you get hold of a .orig? [14:58] copy and rename [14:58] probably worng [14:58] wrong* [14:58] copy and rename in the same line :P [14:58] GOD DAMN [14:59] that still requires you to change the stuffz manually [14:59] what is the shortcut for ubuntu packages? [14:59] major pointlessness [14:59] well, I have the new source in a seperate folder, so I would've to edit the script I guess [14:59] the pattern is silly enough to script that crap, just tell it the tar you want an orig for and be done with it [14:59] yofel: why do you have the new source in a seperate folder? [15:00] build-area is all one needs [15:00] omnomnom build-area [15:00] Quintasan: which one? [15:00] upkg? [15:00] usrc? [15:00] whatever [15:00] vm [15:00] nvm [15:01] apachelogger: I use rsync to get the new tars? [15:01] so they end up in a new folder [15:01] scp FTW [15:01] also that is where the new kgetsource script comes in [15:01] well, I did use sftp and 'get *.bz2' for a while, but still [15:02] I'll consider it at some point [15:02] kgetsource :P [15:02] maybe for the next package [15:05] [Build #2593633] i386 build of kde-baseapps 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa3 in ubuntu oneiric RELEASE (kubuntu-ninjas PPA) [15:05] who be uploading kaput software? [15:05] me, I messed up konq-plugins [15:06] I wonder if I should just merge them into konqueror now that they're in the same source [15:06] DO ET [15:07] How do I force sed to write the change back to file? [15:08] add -i [15:08] nah, rather not, the source dir is seperate and there's no knowing when they'll move that around again, I'll leave the worrying to the debian folks [15:08] tsimpson: grep 4.6.0 *.install | sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0 [15:08] I do it like this [15:08] ah, well then you need to script it then [15:08] Will this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/797067 get fixed in the Kubuntu Natty PPAs? [15:08] Ubuntu bug 797067 in kdeutils (Ubuntu Oneiric) "kerfuffle_libarchive_readonly.desktop missing in package ark in natty 11.04" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:09] tsimpson, Quintasan: actually that moots the point of having the files with their so version in the installs [15:09] Quintasan: something like: for f in $(grep -l 4.6.0 *.install); do sed -i s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g $f; done [15:09] What? [15:10] tsimpson: I did it with sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g *.install [15:10] :P [15:10] apachelogger: how? we're bumping to .7 [15:10] I don't trust sed with multiple files, not sure why now I think about it [15:10] yofel: It's just apachelogger mumbling [15:10] that's the same for ALL kde libs [15:10] besides, mine is 1337 [15:11] mfraz74: add a task for the 'kubuntu-ppa' project and I'll look at it later [15:11] yofel: for kdelibs [15:11] not for everything else [15:11] well, pretty much any lib that's shipped in a kde package was bumped [15:13] ah dang [15:13] forgot copyright [15:13] G [15:13] yofel: how do I do that? [15:14] awoga [15:14] no copying [15:14] good lawd [15:14] mfraz74: also affects project -> kubuntu-ppa [15:17] kdemultimedia done [15:19] yofel: done [15:20] thanks [15:21] hmm [15:21] http://paste.kde.org/88063 [15:21] to kmix.install? [15:21] probably, doesn't look like a speperate mixer widget to me [15:22] * Quintasan rebuilds and uploads [15:23] [kruler] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142303-hxytsko89n2n598q * debian/changelog repack baby [15:23] [kruler] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142331-qbg1yufhdg0s9t6y * debian/copyright copyright++ [15:23] ONWARDS, TO GLORY! [15:24] * Quintasan builds the easy stuff first [15:24] watch out for missing license copies!!!!!! [15:33] PUSH'd [15:35] [ninjas]% kgetsource (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas) [15:35] NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD [15:35] [ninjas]% kgetsource --help (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas) [15:35] NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD [15:35] apachelogger: [15:35] ^^ [15:35] wtf [15:36] HOW DO I USE THIS? [15:41] apachelogger: fcking useless [15:50] kdebase copyright is fun, I didn't know someone named [15:50] Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME [15:50] existed [15:51] lol [15:52] so much for proper copyright files from debian... [15:54] Copyright (C) 19yy Isn't quite up to date either [16:01] Quintasan: kgetsource kdepim 4.6.90 unstable [16:03] moin [16:05] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88087 [16:05] plz review : https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kate/ubuntu [16:05] morning JontheEchidna [16:06] then i'll push to kubuntu-packagers [16:07] you sure notice that nobody cared about the kdebase copyright file for 2 years... [16:08] Quintasan: ah, right, you need to define the epoch [16:08] for the tarball download it will be stripped automagically [16:14] [kruler] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626151420-g2cehely0m0tkko9 * debian/control use ksnapshot page on kde.org as homepage [16:15] yofel: well, you really ever only write a copyright file once :P [16:15] yeah, I'm at least stripping out the parts that are long gone and add konq-plugins [16:15] and trying to update the rest as possible [16:16] perhaps spdx will improve this at some pont [16:16] we need something to auto-generate a dep-5 file so one only has to recheck it [16:20] impossible(tm) [16:20] true :S [16:20] not without having a format for copyright and license info first [16:20] which might or might not be doable for corekde [16:20] well, the GPL header is somewhat specified [16:20] the rest... [16:21] it is not just that, it is how the license and copyright is formatted and placed etc. [16:21] k, kde-baseapps should be Done™ [16:22] there is a reason dep5 is so very strict in its definition [16:22] yeah, that dep-5 is script parsable is nice, that doesn't help in its creation though [16:26] I reckon that is what spdx is meant to resolve [16:26] shadeslayer_: can you make kate-dbg Break/Replace kdebase-dbg? kwrite was in kdebase [16:26] [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626152644-g73mmuayd3vmx9zs * (9 files in 4 dirs) * New upstream release * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics) [16:26] kdelibs-dbg probably too [16:27] why is there a kate-dbg?! [16:27] because there's a kate source? [16:27] we haz dbgsym [16:27] yeah right, make them enable that for PPAs [16:27] -dbg packages for 50 additional packages are nothing good at all [16:27] until then I'll always add -dbg stuff wherever possible [16:27] yofel: tell them [16:28] apachelogger: there is a bug, they don't want to do it [16:28] you drain production system user resources by introducing a bazillion dbg packages [16:28] they made it theoretically possible though [16:28]