[06:20] <wgrant> apachelogger: Sure, either poke me or ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[07:54] <apachelogger> wgrant:  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/162746 :)
[07:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: google runs dbus?
[08:01] <wgrant> apachelogger: Ah, indeed. I will hopefully look at that tonight if I am not too jetlagged.
[08:02] <apachelogger> wgrant: thanks
[08:03] <wgrant> apachelogger: Renamed, and I've added a redirect.
[08:03] <apachelogger> uh, now that was fast :D
[08:04]  * apachelogger hugs wgrant
[08:04] <apachelogger> kubotu: order beer for wgrant
[08:04]  * kubotu gives wgrant a nice frosty mug of beer.
[08:04]  * wgrant -> further flights
[08:30] <bambee> morning
[09:51] <CIA-52> [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085121-4k64juw9s5eadbsa * (11 files in 4 dirs) import from whatever once was kdebase-workspace
[09:51] <CIA-52> [kde-wallpapers] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626085154-4lgj6eb1vflw3kiq * debian/source/lintian-overrides remove plunder
[10:18] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[10:18] <apachelogger> yo bambee
[10:18] <bambee> yo!
[10:19] <apachelogger> you should totally become packager ^^
[10:19] <bambee> until I get a response from upstream, I can continue to work on kde-workspace :(   (or we need to package kdelibs-experimental)
[10:20] <bambee> apachelogger: me?
[10:20] <apachelogger> yes, like full time, stop doing stupid coding and such ;)
[10:20] <bambee> s/I can / I cannot/
[10:20] <kubotu> bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[10:20] <bambee> kubotu: shut up!
[10:20] <apachelogger> actually, talking about coding ... patch the stuff away
[10:21] <apachelogger> kde-workspace as it is yellow, must not be delayed really
[10:21] <apachelogger> yofel: why did you not upload akonadi to the archive right away?
[10:21] <bambee> so we don't package the plasmoid which required kactivies+kdeclarative?
[10:22] <apachelogger> yeah
[10:22] <apachelogger> or perhaps that include is bogus anyway
[10:22] <apachelogger> who'd know
[10:22] <bambee> ok
[10:22] <apachelogger> bambee: you might however want to drop a mail to plasma-devel@kde.org to speed things up a bit
[10:23] <bambee> apachelogger: ok
[10:23] <bambee> "stop doing stupid coding and such "   heh... :P
[10:25] <apachelogger> yofel: we should consider formattting the dep graph differently
[10:25] <apachelogger> it is sorta unreadable
[10:36] <bambee> see you 
[11:30] <yofel> apachelogger: I'm open for suggestions. What I thought about was remove any package that only depends on kde-sc-dev-latest. Problem: not all packages actually depend on that so that would be bogus
[11:30] <yofel> apachelogger: as for akonadi: I'm no kubuntu-dev?
[11:31] <yofel> yet
[11:31] <apachelogger> zomg
[11:46] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626104605-bb3e4apvb3ajocwd * (5 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[11:46] <CIA-52> Reintroduce 80qtgraphicssystem to set raster system for testing once more In Qt
[11:46] <CIA-52> 4.8 raster will be the default rendering system, thus KDE needs to work well
[11:47] <yofel> raster works fine for a while now here, what did that even break before?
[11:47] <apachelogger> plasma-netbook
[11:47] <apachelogger> and kwin
[11:47] <apachelogger> and the combination of them
[11:47] <apachelogger> and rekonq
[11:48] <yofel> ah
[11:54] <yofel> can anyone reproduce lp 802131 ? WFM in oneiric
[11:54] <apachelogger> no
[11:56] <apachelogger> rproigram
[11:56] <apachelogger> that goes beyond typo
[11:56] <yofel> ^^
[11:57] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626105653-1gbcio0wtzjtwqtp * bin/kgetsource add script to branch/pull source and grab src tar from upstream and add changelog entry
[12:06] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110631-gd5p0q4md8sn157t * bin/kgetsource introduce new tar class and link upstream tar to orig.tar.bz2 name
[12:08] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626110831-hpiyb78rvbw0m43w * debian/changelog (log message trimmed)
[12:08] <CIA-52> Introduce kgetsource to help with getting bzr branches, upstream source tar and
[12:08] <CIA-52> other related stuff. Currently only supports ftpmaster. Usage like: kgetsource
[12:10] <apachelogger> oh 
[12:10] <apachelogger> right
[12:10] <apachelogger> fun
[12:10] <apachelogger> yofel: what to do with kdepim?
[12:10] <yofel> leave in experimental and upload 4.6.90 to oneiric
[12:11] <apachelogger> but why
[12:11] <yofel> why leave in experimental?
[12:11] <apachelogger> cause I have not seen evidence that it qualifies for major distribution
[12:11] <apachelogger> neither have I seen a call for testing
[12:12] <apachelogger> but that is a given as the entire team fails to community stuff, but that is no news
[12:13] <yofel> right, partly my fault too I guess, esp. since it took me a while to get the packaging review done
[12:13] <yofel> but it's true that 4.6.0 isn't something to put into the archive
[12:14] <yofel> right now it doesn't list my mails in the kubuntu-devel folder for some reason o.O
[12:14] <yofel> I would see if 4.6.90 fixes anything and then think about where to put it
[12:14] <apachelogger> well
[12:14] <apachelogger> if anything 4.6.90 should go to experimental too
[12:15] <apachelogger> kdepimwise
[12:15] <apachelogger> which of course introduces inter-ppa deps and brrrrrr
[12:16] <yofel> Well, now that I have (hopefully) fixed any packaging bugs in kdepim I can put an announcement out that it would be nice if people could test it (if they know how to backup stuff)
[12:22] <apachelogger> yofel: oh, here is a good question: should the changelog contain entries from the old package?
[12:22] <apachelogger> such as kdeedu -> blinken
[12:23] <yofel> so far nobody seems to have done that, so I would start fresh
[12:26] <CIA-52> [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112603-0wwku2cg6zc8c3i5 * (11 files in 4 dirs) import
[12:29] <CIA-52> [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626112935-b6f91f6mlu3jjfxo * debian/control bump kde-sc-latest
[12:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I can’t confirm the KDEPIM stuff on oneiric, but it seems like he/she is using natty
[12:30] <yofel> right, I have a natty PC I'll test on later
[12:30] <apachelogger> I am on natty and cant confirm it 
[12:31] <apachelogger> best just have the dude create a new account and test with a new setup
[12:33] <CIA-52> [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626113318-16z963smj3s9mije * debian/control add kdelibs5-dev bdep
[12:51] <apachelogger> license fail
[12:51] <apachelogger> \o/
[12:56] <apachelogger> I really dunno what shadeslayer was bitching about dep5
[12:56] <apachelogger> utterly nice thing
[12:56] <yofel> It's confusing, but if you're right, if you handle it like a control file it's understandable
[12:56] <yofel> *bug you're right
[12:57] <yofel> *but you're right
[12:57] <yofel> typo day
[12:57] <apachelogger> kubotu: order beer 
[12:57]  * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer.
[12:57] <apachelogger> typo day must be celebrated
[13:08] <apachelogger> yofel: if I repack a tar to get copying in do I suffix the version with +copying or +repack?
[13:09] <yofel> no idea, did you take copying from the old tar, or..?
[13:14] <apachelogger> yofel: nah, upstream
[13:14] <apachelogger> ah
[13:14] <apachelogger> yofel: you mean debian/copyright?
[13:15] <yofel> you were talking about COPYING, but I would say repack
[13:15] <yofel> do you know where to complain about missing copyright in smoke?
[13:18] <apachelogger> yofel: upstream
[13:18] <apachelogger> rdale IIRC
[13:20] <CIA-52> [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122032-p7qmdz8guvfnh74e * debian/copyright update copyright
[13:20] <CIA-52> [blinken] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626122045-ao2rtq5m8bpyivbh * debian/changelog Repack tarball to include copies of GPL2 and GFDL1.2
[13:46] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I shall be absent for the upcoming week
[13:46] <yofel> WHAT?
[13:46] <apachelogger> YES!
[13:46] <Quintasan> Worry not for I shall help with 4.6.90 packaging today
[13:46] <Quintasan> lol
[13:47] <yofel> k, if you get everything done today I won't complain :P
[13:47] <Quintasan> yofel: What's with kdepim-runtime
[13:47] <yofel> what's the problem?
[13:47] <Quintasan> Well, it's yellow and nobody is doing it
[13:47]  * Quintasan claims
[13:48] <yofel> well, it's... well, you know... kdepim :P
[13:48] <apachelogger> more importantly we do not know where to put it
[13:48] <yofel> that too :/
[13:49] <Quintasan> Why is that?
[13:49] <yofel> ask rysiek :P
[13:49] <Quintasan> Oh, that
[13:49]  * Quintasan does modules instead
[13:49] <yofel> well, that too, but when I tried it just now it didn't want to list my mails
[13:50] <yofel> without any kind of error
[13:50] <yofel> just that the mail list was empty (after letting me wait for a minute)
[13:51] <Quintasan> I do not think we should bother with it until it somehow works
[13:51] <Quintasan> We are not *cough*Chakra*cough* to put something like that into archive
[13:52] <yofel> right, which brings us back to the question where to put kdepim 4.6.90
[13:52] <Quintasan> experimental?
[13:52] <Quintasan> staging?
[13:52] <yofel> then I need to give out a warning to all users of 4.6.0 that we'll be putting 4.6.90 in there which depends on kde 4.7
[13:53] <Quintasan> Well, isn't it better that shipping it to everyone?
[13:53] <yofel> and staging isn't supposed to be used for something like this, though it would actually be an option
[13:54] <yofel> well, true
[13:55] <Quintasan> I'm not everyone here so you'd want ScottK's and apachelogger's opinion on tht
[13:55] <Quintasan> that*
[13:57] <apachelogger> experimental
[13:57] <apachelogger> along with kdelibs and kdepimlibs copies of 4.6.90
[13:58] <apachelogger> kdelibs and kdepimlibs are covered by ABI stability policy, so this should not inflict damage outside the pim modules
[13:58] <yofel> I'll post a news item for 4.6 later with a message to disable experimental if you don't want 4.7
[13:58] <apachelogger> oh and akonadi needs to go in
[13:58] <apachelogger> yofel: how so?
[13:58] <Quintasan> This entirely sucks
[13:59] <yofel> ah, I forgot about the ABI policy. I guess there shouldn't be too much damage then
[13:59] <apachelogger> if anything we'd include 4.7 + 4.6.90 surely holds vast improvements over 4.6
[13:59] <Quintasan> Why on Earth 4.7 depends on something so not isable?
[13:59] <Quintasan> usable*
[13:59] <Quintasan> Typo Day
[13:59] <yofel> well, upstream considers it usable
[13:59] <Quintasan> They considered 4.0 usable too :)
[13:59] <yofel> well and we shipped that, didn't we? ^^
[14:00] <Quintasan> Well, at least 4.0 was marked as TP
[14:00] <Quintasan> noone forced anybody to use it
[14:00] <yofel> hm, kdebase devs are lazy. no symobl updates in kde-baseapps...
[14:00] <apachelogger> this all would be much less a problem with https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/373197
[14:00] <jussi> Quintasan: so how about you tell me some words you want in that factoid, and Ill fix it...
[14:00]  * yofel subscribes
[14:00] <Quintasan> jussi: Fair enough
[14:01] <jussi> Quintasan: we could also teach Princess butterfly how to do it at the same time ;)
[14:01] <apachelogger> you tought me like 5 times already
[14:01] <jussi> rofl
[14:01] <apachelogger> not important enough knowledge
[14:01] <apachelogger> or too much booze consumed meanwhile
[14:01] <apachelogger> who'd know
[14:02]  * jussi smacks apachelogger over the back of the skull :P
[14:02] <jussi> be good :D
[14:02] <Quintasan> jussi: Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon
[14:02] <apachelogger> I always get them beatins
[14:03] <apachelogger> and never know why
[14:03] <apachelogger> it is wicked
[14:03] <apachelogger> yofel: promoting all that plunder to main is gotta be fun
[14:03] <jussi> Quintasan: that should be under !neon?
[14:03] <jussi> !neon
[14:03] <Quintasan> jussi: yeah
[14:03] <yofel> yeah, esp. since I have no idea how the current smoke packages are supposed to survive a MIR
[14:03] <jussi> !no, neon is <reply> Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon
[14:03] <yofel> need some redo
[14:03] <jussi> !neon
[14:04] <yofel> the techbase page would be nice to have in there
[14:04] <yofel> sec.
[14:04] <yofel> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[14:05] <jussi> yofel: generally we try to keep it to one wiki link, unless really necessary
[14:05] <Quintasan> kdeadmin done
[14:05] <Quintasan> uploading
[14:05] <apachelogger> you know
[14:05] <yofel> well ok, we do have the link on the wiki page
[14:05] <jussi> is that link on the wiki page?
[14:06] <jussi> :D
[14:06] <yofel> ^^
[14:06] <apachelogger> the ~team/pkg/ubuntu branch naming is sorta stupid
[14:06] <Quintasan> omfg
[14:06] <apachelogger> ~team/ubuntu/pkg would be much bettar
[14:06] <yofel> make Riddell add aliases for that
[14:06] <apachelogger> well, generally it sucks a bit
[14:06] <yofel> well, ubuntu/* is taken...
[14:07] <apachelogger> yeah
[14:07] <apachelogger> bstds
[14:07] <yofel> make a 'packaging'  Project
[14:07] <apachelogger> well, that could also work
[14:08] <apachelogger> kubuntu-packaging
[14:09] <yofel> we just need a kubuntu:kde-runtime alias and all would be fine
[14:10] <apachelogger> I asked jr for that
[14:10] <apachelogger> he did not yet come up with code
[14:10] <yofel> yeah :/
[14:10] <apachelogger> of course superior VCS can have alises out of the box :P
[14:11] <yofel> yeah, though getting Riddell to add alias support is easier than making LP devs implement git support
[14:12] <yofel> fooey, konq-plugins is in kde-baseapps now
[14:12] <yofel> well, one source package less at least
[14:16] <yofel> wgrant: can you please rename the 'kdebase' project into 'kde-baseapps' ? Thanks
[14:19] <CIA-52> [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626131931-tegmmq8qc0uhs6wq * (9 files in 4 dirs) import
[14:21] <apachelogger> yofel: do you know of a script that can link an arbitary tar to one that qualifies as orig tarball?
[14:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: or you perhaps?
[14:21] <yofel> hm, I think uscan does something like that when it gets a new package version from the watch file
[14:22] <apachelogger> yeah, but that is built in
[14:24] <Quintasan> apachelogger: No idea, can't you just write a quick and dirty?
[14:24] <apachelogger> quick and drity haha
[14:24] <apachelogger> take a look at kgetsource in kubuntu-dev-tools :P
[14:24] <apachelogger> that thing to 3 classes
[14:26]  * Quintasan waits for build to finish and pushes kdeadmin to bzr
[14:27] <Quintasan> apachelogger: no such file in there
[14:27] <Quintasan> bsides, ruby
[14:27] <Quintasan> :S
[14:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: want a proof that GIT is not actually superior?
[14:32] <apachelogger> Quintasan: does it include prn?
[14:32] <Quintasan> nope, it includes 4.6.90 tarballs
[14:41] <apachelogger> show me prn
[14:41] <yofel> I believe that would just end up in proving that Dirk isn't superior and have no actual value for git :P
[14:45] <Quintasan> apachelogger: any idea if we still want http://paste.kde.org/88033?
[14:45] <Quintasan> yofel: ^
[14:45] <apachelogger> Quintasan: so what is with me prn?
[14:46] <Quintasan> nothing
[14:46] <apachelogger> meh
[14:46] <apachelogger> about that patch
[14:46] <apachelogger> it is dirt
[14:46] <apachelogger> dirty package = dirty patch
[14:46] <apachelogger> and I blame you
[14:47] <apachelogger>  The person named in the Author field signed this changelog entry.
[14:47] <apachelogger> Author: Michał Zając <quintasan@kubuntu.org>
[14:47]  * Quintasan purges it with fire
[14:47] <Quintasan> Blame me if something bad happens
[14:48] <yofel> sure
[14:50] <Quintasan> Pushed.
[14:52] <yofel> meh, and there I was wondering why the list-missing output in kde-baseapps was empty
[14:52] <yofel> konq-plugins.install:
[14:52] <yofel> usr/*
[14:52] <Quintasan> lol
[14:57] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626135710-kqisj8mx230c2i7a * (bin/klinksource debian/changelog) Add klinksource to link arbitary tar.* to a qualified .orig.tar.*
[14:57] <apachelogger> yofel, Quintasan^
[14:57] <Quintasan> Cool, but why bother?
[14:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: how do you get hold of a .orig?
[14:58] <Quintasan> copy and rename
[14:58] <Quintasan> probably worng
[14:58] <Quintasan> wrong*
[14:58] <yofel> copy and rename in the same line :P
[14:58] <Quintasan> GOD DAMN
[14:59] <apachelogger> that still requires you to change the stuffz manually
[14:59] <Quintasan> what is the shortcut for ubuntu packages?
[14:59] <apachelogger> major pointlessness
[14:59] <yofel> well, I have the new source in a seperate folder, so I would've to edit the script I guess
[14:59] <apachelogger> the pattern is silly enough to script that crap, just tell it the tar you want an orig for and be done with it
[14:59] <apachelogger> yofel: why do you have the new source in a seperate folder?
[15:00] <apachelogger> build-area is all one needs
[15:00] <apachelogger> omnomnom build-area
[15:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: which one?
[15:00] <apachelogger> upkg?
[15:00] <apachelogger> usrc?
[15:00] <Quintasan> whatever
[15:00] <Quintasan> vm
[15:00] <Quintasan> nvm
[15:01] <yofel> apachelogger: I use rsync to get the new tars?
[15:01] <yofel> so they end up in a new folder
[15:01] <apachelogger> scp FTW
[15:01] <apachelogger> also that is where the new kgetsource script comes in
[15:01] <yofel> well, I did use sftp and 'get *.bz2' for a while, but still
[15:02] <yofel> I'll consider it at some point
[15:02] <apachelogger> kgetsource :P
[15:02] <yofel> maybe for the next package 
[15:05] <apachelogger> [Build #2593633] i386 build of kde-baseapps 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa3 in ubuntu oneiric RELEASE (kubuntu-ninjas PPA)
[15:05] <apachelogger> who be uploading kaput software?
[15:05] <yofel> me, I messed up konq-plugins
[15:06] <yofel> I wonder if I should just merge them into konqueror now that they're in the same source
[15:06] <Quintasan> DO ET
[15:07] <Quintasan> How do I force sed to write the change back to file?
[15:08] <tsimpson> add -i
[15:08] <yofel> nah, rather not, the source dir is seperate and there's no knowing when they'll move that around again, I'll leave the worrying to the debian folks
[15:08] <Quintasan> tsimpson: grep 4.6.0 *.install | sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0
[15:08] <Quintasan> I do it like this
[15:08] <tsimpson> ah, well then you need to script it then
[15:08] <mfraz74> Will this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/797067 get fixed in the Kubuntu Natty PPAs?
[15:09] <apachelogger> tsimpson, Quintasan: actually that moots the point of having the files with their so version in the installs
[15:09] <tsimpson> Quintasan: something like: for f in $(grep -l 4.6.0 *.install); do sed -i s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g $f; done
[15:09] <Quintasan> What?
[15:10] <Quintasan> tsimpson: I did it with sed s/4.6.0/4.7.0/g *.install
[15:10] <Quintasan> :P
[15:10] <yofel> apachelogger: how? we're bumping to .7
[15:10] <tsimpson> I don't trust sed with multiple files, not sure why now I think about it
[15:10] <Quintasan> yofel: It's just apachelogger mumbling
[15:10] <yofel> that's the same for ALL kde libs 
[15:10] <tsimpson> besides, mine is 1337
[15:11] <yofel> mfraz74: add a task for the 'kubuntu-ppa' project and I'll look at it later
[15:11] <apachelogger> yofel: for kdelibs
[15:11] <apachelogger> not for everything else
[15:11] <yofel> well, pretty much any lib that's shipped in a kde package was bumped
[15:13] <apachelogger> ah dang
[15:13] <apachelogger> forgot copyright
[15:13] <apachelogger> G
[15:13] <mfraz74> yofel: how do I do that?
[15:14] <apachelogger> awoga
[15:14] <apachelogger> no copying
[15:14] <apachelogger> good lawd
[15:14] <yofel> mfraz74: also affects project -> kubuntu-ppa
[15:17] <Quintasan> kdemultimedia done
[15:19] <mfraz74> yofel: done
[15:20] <yofel> thanks
[15:21] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:21] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/88063
[15:21] <Quintasan> to kmix.install?
[15:21] <yofel> probably, doesn't look like a speperate mixer widget to me
[15:22]  * Quintasan rebuilds and uploads
[15:23] <CIA-52> [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142303-hxytsko89n2n598q * debian/changelog repack baby
[15:23] <CIA-52> [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626142331-qbg1yufhdg0s9t6y * debian/copyright copyright++
[15:23] <Quintasan> ONWARDS, TO GLORY!
[15:24]  * Quintasan builds the easy stuff first
[15:24] <apachelogger> watch out for missing license copies!!!!!!
[15:33] <Quintasan> PUSH'd
[15:35] <Quintasan> [ninjas]% kgetsource                                                              (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas)
[15:35] <Quintasan> NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD
[15:35] <Quintasan> [ninjas]% kgetsource --help                                                       (quintasan@nightwalker:..e/packaging/ninjas)
[15:35] <Quintasan> NEED MORE ARGS YE BSTD
[15:35] <Quintasan> apachelogger: 
[15:35] <Quintasan> ^^
[15:35] <Quintasan> wtf
[15:36] <Quintasan> HOW DO I USE THIS?
[15:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: fcking useless
[15:50] <yofel> kdebase copyright is fun, I didn't know someone named
[15:50] <yofel> Copyright (c)  YEAR  YOUR NAME
[15:50] <yofel> existed
[15:51] <Quintasan> lol
[15:52] <yofel> so much for proper copyright files from debian...
[15:54] <yofel> Copyright (C) 19yy  <name of author> Isn't quite up to date either
[16:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: kgetsource kdepim 4.6.90 unstable
[16:03] <JontheEchidna> moin
[16:05] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88087
[16:05] <shadeslayer_> plz review : https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kate/ubuntu
[16:05] <yofel> morning JontheEchidna
[16:06] <shadeslayer_> then i'll push to kubuntu-packagers
[16:07] <yofel> you sure notice that nobody cared about the kdebase copyright file for 2 years...
[16:08] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ah, right, you need to define the epoch
[16:08] <apachelogger> for the tarball download it will be stripped automagically
[16:14] <CIA-52> [kruler] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626151420-g2cehely0m0tkko9 * debian/control use ksnapshot page on kde.org as homepage
[16:15] <apachelogger> yofel: well, you really ever only write a copyright file once :P
[16:15] <yofel> yeah, I'm at least stripping out the parts that are long gone and add konq-plugins
[16:15] <yofel> and trying to update the rest as possible
[16:16] <apachelogger> perhaps spdx will improve this at some pont
[16:16] <yofel> we need something to auto-generate a dep-5 file so one only has to recheck it
[16:20] <apachelogger> impossible(tm)
[16:20] <yofel> true :S
[16:20] <apachelogger> not without having a format for copyright and license info first
[16:20] <apachelogger> which might or might not be doable for corekde
[16:20] <yofel> well, the GPL header is somewhat specified
[16:20] <yofel> the rest...
[16:21] <apachelogger> it is not just that, it is how the license and copyright is formatted and placed etc.
[16:21] <yofel> k, kde-baseapps should be Done™
[16:22] <apachelogger> there is a reason dep5 is so very strict in its definition
[16:22] <yofel> yeah, that dep-5 is script parsable is nice, that doesn't help in its creation though
[16:26] <apachelogger> I reckon that is what spdx is meant to resolve
[16:26] <yofel> shadeslayer_: can you make kate-dbg Break/Replace kdebase-dbg? kwrite was in kdebase
[16:26] <CIA-52> [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626152644-g73mmuayd3vmx9zs * (9 files in 4 dirs) * New upstream release * Initial release (moved out of kdegraphics)
[16:26] <yofel> kdelibs-dbg probably too
[16:27] <apachelogger> why is there a kate-dbg?!
[16:27] <yofel> because there's a kate source?
[16:27] <apachelogger> we haz dbgsym
[16:27] <yofel> yeah right, make them enable that for PPAs
[16:27] <apachelogger> -dbg packages for 50 additional packages are nothing good at all
[16:27] <yofel> until then I'll always add -dbg stuff wherever possible
[16:27] <apachelogger> yofel: tell them
[16:28] <yofel> apachelogger: there is a bug, they don't want to do it
[16:28] <apachelogger> you drain production system user resources by introducing a bazillion dbg packages
[16:28] <yofel> they made it theoretically possible though
[16:28] <yofel> ok, I'll add an empty override_dh_stip: target then, better?
[16:28] <yofel> come on
[16:29] <apachelogger> they do show up in the package lists
[16:29] <yofel> we can't debug stuff without debug packages
[16:29] <apachelogger> means apt-get update takes longer, meaning the local cache will use more space etc etc
[16:29] <yofel> and we're using PPAs rather excessively
[16:29] <apachelogger> yofel: there surely is a better option than adding them manually
[16:29] <yofel> for PPAs no(t yet)
[16:29] <apachelogger> why not
[16:30] <apachelogger> how about dbg package injection
[16:30] <apachelogger> given soyuz allows this at all
[16:30] <yofel> I'm all for -dbgsyms, but as long as pkg-create-dbgsym is disabled in the PPA builders we can't use them°
[16:30] <yofel> s/°/!
[16:30] <apachelogger> pkg-kde-tools could inject the appropraite package into control when the build is in a PPA
[16:30] <shadeslayer_> yofel: ah yes, i forgot about that
[16:30] <yofel> hm, that might actually be an ide
[16:30] <yofel> *idea
[16:31] <shadeslayer_> yofel: why kdelibs-dbg?
[16:32] <yofel> iirc that kate kpart was in kdelibs
[16:32] <shadeslayer_> kate was in kdesdk
[16:32]  * shadeslayer_ checks
[16:32] <shadeslayer_> ah, yes
[16:32] <yofel> libkatepartinterfaces4
[16:32] <shadeslayer_> anything else>
[16:33] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88123
[16:33] <yofel> control line 8 shows ascii junk, at least on the web 0;115;0c
[16:33] <shadeslayer_> @_@
[16:34] <apachelogger> Quintasan: yes?
[16:34] <yofel> Vcs lines are missing
[16:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: look at the link
[16:34] <Quintasan> and pwd
[16:34] <yofel> are you using pkg-kde-tools?
[16:34] <apachelogger> ah
[16:34] <apachelogger> Quintasan: that explains why my link is kaput ^^
[16:34] <Quintasan> Fix thos
[16:34] <Quintasan> this*
[16:34] <Quintasan> TypoDay--
[16:35] <yofel> ~karma typoday
[16:35] <kubotu> karma for typoday: -1
[16:35] <shadeslayer_> yofel: done
[16:35] <yofel> typoday--
[16:35] <CIA-52> [kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626153511-id3l07r8m1pm1ht4 * bin/kgetsource go into build-area and link the stuffz
[16:35] <yofel> pushed?
[16:36] <apachelogger> yuz
[16:36] <apachelogger> good lawd
[16:36] <apachelogger> someone write a mail to kde-devel and kde-core-devel about proper licensing
[16:36] <apachelogger> I am going mad here
[16:36] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[16:36] <shadeslayer_> yofel: anything else that you find wrong?
[16:37] <yofel> shadeslayer_: did you push? LP didn't update yet
[16:37] <shadeslayer_> oh ... haven't pushed, one sec
[16:38] <shadeslayer_> done
[16:39] <yofel> well, you could remove the version from kdebase-dbg, but nvm that. Can't see anything obviously wrong there
[16:40] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/88135
[16:40] <Quintasan> SO MUCH FUN
[16:40] <yofel> apachelogger: want to look at smokeqt? That has no licensing information whatsoever
[16:40] <apachelogger> hahaha
[16:40] <shadeslayer_> i find versioned breaks/replaces better
[16:40] <apachelogger> you epople will have to look at the ksnapshot copyright file
[16:40] <apachelogger> it is ludicrous
[16:40] <apachelogger> like every kde developer holds copyright on them 10 files ^^
[16:40] <yofel> sure, just that the package is gone now -> kde-baseapps-dbg
[16:40] <yofel> but right, less breakage potential
[16:41] <shadeslayer_> ok then, will push to kubuntu packagers
[16:42] <yofel> sure, can you review lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdebase/ubuntu r173 if you're done?
[16:42] <shadeslayer_> alright
[16:43]  * yofel takes a break and looks at #797067
[16:47] <Quintasan> It's me or kubuntu_05_samba_sharing.diff just got upstream?
[16:47] <Quintasan> The best day in kdenetwork's history
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: i think so, not entirely syre
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> *sure
[16:48] <shadeslayer_> rbelem: ^^
[16:48]  * Quintasan hates bzr-buildpackage
[16:50] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: have fun at the skateboarding rampage :D
[16:50] <Quintasan> kk
[16:50] <Quintasan> Thanks
[16:50] <CIA-52> [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155020-etrupqcvxwrn1maa * debian/copyright add copyright ole!
[16:51] <Quintasan> shadeslayer_: Any idea how to hook up bzr-buildpackage with pbuilder?
[16:51] <shadeslayer_> nope
[16:52] <shadeslayer_> oh oh
[16:52] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: --builder pdebuild ?
[16:52] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: found it here : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DesktopTeam/Bzr
[16:52]  * Quintasan uses pbuilder-dist
[16:53] <shadeslayer_> pbuilder-dist then ?
[16:53] <yofel> wasn't that a backport of the 4.7 samba sharing stuff in the first place?
[16:54] <CIA-52> [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155434-xaoownvl6hb08ogd * debian/changelog repack++
[16:54] <shadeslayer_> wtf :   Uploading kate_4.6.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.
[16:54] <shadeslayer_> Note: This error might indicate a problem with your passive_ftp setting.
[16:54] <shadeslayer_>       Please consult dput.cf(5) for details on this configuration option
[16:54] <Quintasan> Ignore it
[16:54] <Quintasan> LP haz some screws loose today
[16:55] <yofel> lp 798957
[16:55] <shadeslayer_> oh so it was alread uploaded?
[16:55] <shadeslayer_> ah there we go
[16:55] <shadeslayer_> just got them mails
[16:56] <shadeslayer_> yofel: question, shouldn't the branch be renamed as well?
[16:56] <shadeslayer_> ( for kdebase )
[16:57] <yofel> it should, but I need wgrant to rename the project
[16:57] <shadeslayer_> ah ok
[16:57] <Quintasan> I think we dropped our biggest patch file
[16:57] <yofel> I changed the vcs lines already, just the LP side of things needs to be done
[16:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: we dropped shadeslayer_?
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> what 
[16:58] <Quintasan> PATCH
[16:58] <Quintasan> lol
[16:58] <Quintasan> cat shadeslayer_
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> imma patch? 0.o
[16:58] <Quintasan> :/
[16:58] <yofel> lol
[16:58] <shadeslayer_> kshadeslayer.patch :P
[16:59] <Quintasan> debian/patches/shadeslayer_not_bloggin.patch
[16:59] <Quintasan> :
[16:59] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: i did blogz
[16:59] <Quintasan> cat "blog moar" > /dev/brain
[16:59] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan: yeah, i have another one coming up, but its about GSoC Work
[17:00] <CIA-52> [ksnapshot] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110626155948-14tzvg4z24rp0xdg * debian/control add xfixes and kipi, fortunately enough kipi is not packaged yet
[17:00] <Quintasan> dohohohoh
[17:00] <yofel> Quintasan: you frogot that dev/brain -> /dev/null
[17:00] <Quintasan> lol
[17:00] <shadeslayer_> . . .
[17:00] <Quintasan> U mad?
[17:00] <shadeslayer_> /dev/brain is actually /dev/random
[17:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: y u no blog?
[17:00] <shadeslayer_> ^^
[17:01] <yofel> well, I need to write up a summary for neon again soon
[17:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: libkipi!!!!!
[17:01] <yofel> might as well think of some random blog topics
[17:01] <shadeslayer_> yofel: another question, weren't we aiming for modularity? why was konq-plugins merged into one package
[17:01] <Quintasan> apachelogger: No working EGL yet?
[17:01] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: yes, i'm working on it right now
[17:01] <yofel> shadeslayer_: how should I know?
[17:01] <apachelogger> FASTARRRRRR
[17:01] <Quintasan> lol
[17:02] <Quintasan> MOAR
[17:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan: no, didn't look at it anymore
[17:02] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: nearly done
[17:02] <apachelogger> kaput beyond repairz
[17:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: then no blogs
[17:02] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: want to do the copyright file? :P
[17:02] <yofel> at least kde-baseapps has copyright info
[17:02] <yofel> unlike smoke -.-
[17:02] <shadeslayer_> yofel: wait, so, all these plugins were seprate earlier?
[17:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you could tell me if the kispey has appropriate copying files
[17:02] <apachelogger> or else I could fix that
[17:02] <apachelogger> since I have all them stuffz open
[17:02] <apachelogger> you know
[17:03] <apachelogger> we could like write a gui for dep5
[17:03] <apachelogger> it would be ultimately useless
[17:03] <yofel> shadeslayer_: huh? they were in konqueror-plugin-* until 4.6.1 when debian put them into konq-plugins and now the source was put into kde-baseapps
[17:03] <shadeslayer_> oh ok ^^
[17:03] <yofel> so not much binary diff from 4.6 to 4.7
[17:03] <yofel> just different source package
[17:04] <yofel> but yeah, it was seperate before
[17:04] <apachelogger> it was only sep because it was extraaaar gear
[17:05] <yofel> oh right
[17:05] <shadeslayer_> new moin moin sux
[17:05] <yofel> now what did I want to wrok on again...
[17:05] <shadeslayer_> ^^ typo day
[17:05] <yofel> ah knosloe
[17:06] <yofel> mm works ok for me recently
[17:06] <yofel> after I finally managed to log in
[17:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: new?
[17:06] <apachelogger> hahahahahahah
[17:06] <apachelogger> hahahahhahaahahahhaahhahahahaahahahaahahaha
[17:06] <apachelogger> hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahah
[17:06] <yofel>  /mute apachelogger
[17:06]  * apachelogger needs to go for a smoke now
[17:07] <shadeslayer_> ok kipi is mostly GPL \o/
[17:07] <yofel> lucky you
[17:07] <apachelogger> I once had GPL
[17:08] <apachelogger> then I switched to BSD
[17:08] <apachelogger> now I haz no code no moar
[17:08] <shadeslayer_> oooh
[17:08] <shadeslayer_> not alot of copyright authors too
[17:08] <shadeslayer_> only 64 including dupes
[17:09] <apachelogger> KIPSEY!!!!
[17:09] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: wth is that?
[17:09] <apachelogger> yofel: shadeslayer_ is holding up the entire machinery
[17:10] <shadeslayer_> . . .
[17:10] <yofel> there's plenty of other things todo :P
[17:11] <apachelogger> no there isnt
[17:11] <apachelogger> oh
[17:11] <yofel> which reminds me I need to do smokekde
[17:11] <apachelogger> actually
[17:11] <apachelogger> I should be preparing for them exams
[17:11] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: gimmeh 30 minutes
[17:11] <apachelogger> oh
[17:11] <apachelogger> and for them train rides
[17:11] <apachelogger> oh gosh
[17:11] <yofel> and I wonder if I should send a mail to -packagers re copying -.-
[17:12]  * yofel wonders what he should do with the bug that's crawling across his screen........
[17:13] <apachelogger> yofel: copying?
[17:14] <apachelogger> hm
[17:14] <apachelogger> copy the bug
[17:14] <apachelogger> G
[17:14] <yofel> lol
[17:14] <yofel> copyright stuff I mean
[17:14] <apachelogger> today is not typo day, today is day of insanity
[17:14] <shadeslayer_> hey packagers, i have a bug for you
[17:14] <apachelogger> yofel: copyright stuff?
[17:14] <apachelogger> what ye mean?
[17:14] <yofel> apachelogger: the missing of it?
[17:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: actually that would get yofel flamed for being funny
[17:14] <apachelogger> yofel: of where?
[17:14] <yofel> make that absence
[17:15] <yofel> lol
[17:15] <apachelogger> no distro but youbuntoo gives a rats booty
[17:15] <apachelogger> (I think)
[17:15] <apachelogger> (I am pretty sure)
[17:15] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/88153
[17:15] <apachelogger> (actually I know for all the ones that upstream cares about)
[17:15] <yofel> apachelogger: well, try to do the copyright file for smokeqt, using None as copyright
[17:16] <shadeslayer_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2011-04-26 06:26 /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL -> GPL-3
[17:16] <shadeslayer_> O_O
[17:16] <yofel> or can we actually say the package has no copyright
[17:16]  * yofel doubts that somehow...
[17:17]  * apachelogger thinks that copyright is not important as long as license is free
[17:17] <Quintasan> what do I do with that one?
[17:17] <apachelogger> just like there is no obligation that the copyright holder must be a real person
[17:17] <apachelogger> Quintasan: copying
[17:17] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/88153
[17:17] <shadeslayer_> so if licensecheck says the license is GPL, do i assume GPL 3?
[17:17] <yofel> Quintasan: that should be batchpatch -v 4:4.6.90
[17:18] <shadeslayer_> since it's not specified which version of the GPL its refering too
[17:18] <yofel> maybe the file is so ancient that it means ^
[17:18] <yofel> *1
[17:18] <Quintasan> YEAH
[17:18] <Quintasan>   #MISSING: 4:4.6.90# _ZNK6Kopete12OnlineStatus12protocolIconEv@Base 4:4.3.4
[17:18] <Quintasan> bump on libkopete?
[17:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you should look at the source file
[17:19] <shadeslayer_> aha
[17:19] <apachelogger> Quintasan: red alert, red alert!
[17:19] <shadeslayer_> its GPL 2+
[17:19] <yofel> Quintasan: if the symbol is public I think yet
[17:19] <yofel> *yes
[17:20] <shadeslayer_> licensecheck is busted then
[17:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: huh?
[17:21] <Quintasan> how do I know if it's public yofel?
[17:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: is there a libkopete?
[17:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: more importantly do we package libkopete?
[17:21] <yofel> get the function name from c++filt and check the source
[17:21] <yofel> first check if the file is even installed
[17:21] <apachelogger> even more importantly do we package the headers for that libkopete?
[17:21] <Quintasan> libkopete4
[17:21] <yofel> listen to apachelogger
[17:21] <Quintasan> libkopete-dev.install
[17:22] <Quintasan> looks like we do both
[17:22]  * Quintasan bumps
[17:22] <yofel> do we install the header files that provide that function?
[17:23] <apachelogger> ahahah
[17:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: shoot the upstream
[17:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: right now
[17:23] <apachelogger> quickly!
[17:23] <yofel> huh?
[17:23]  * Quintasan shoots #kde-devel
[17:23] <apachelogger> no
[17:23] <apachelogger> #kopete
[17:23]  * Quintasan goes unicorn stampede in #kopete
[17:23] <apachelogger> yofel: regardless of whether we install it, they need to bump their so before release
[17:24] <yofel> ah, right
[17:25] <Quintasan> Should I go and complain about that?
[17:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: more like, should I go there and make hell there
[17:28] <NCommander> ScottK: I looked at your patch for QT4, its san
[17:28] <NCommander> ^e
[17:31] <apachelogger> Quintasan: yes
[17:31] <apachelogger> I demand war!
[17:32] <apachelogger> once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
[17:32] <Quintasan> What do I want them exactly to do?
[17:33] <Quintasan> to bump it and poke Dirk to include it in tarball?
[17:37] <shadeslayer_> btw would this package name be alright? : kipi-libs-data
[17:37] <shadeslayer_> or do i make it kipilibs-data / libkipi-data
[17:41] <apachelogger> leaving for train
[17:41] <apachelogger> see y'all tomorrow or so
[17:41] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: bye :)
[17:58] <DarthFrog> Will KDE 4.7 RC be packaged for Natty?
[18:13] <yofel> shadeslayer_: libkipi-data would be my choice, as long as the package is libkipi
[18:13] <shadeslayer_> hmm .. ok
[18:14] <shadeslayer_> ok kipi is done
[18:18] <shadeslayer_> yofel: do we create new projects for every package?
[18:18] <yofel> yes
[18:18] <shadeslayer_> ok then, need to have a libkipi project then
[18:25] <shadeslayer_> plz review :
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/libkipi/ubuntu
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> yofel: kdebase looks good
[18:26] <shadeslayer_> or rather kde-baseapps
[18:31] <yofel> :)
[18:31] <yofel> hey bambee
[18:32] <bambee> yofel: hey
[18:39] <bambee> I will ask on #plasma/plasma ML (don't worry), but in my humble opinion we should package kdelibs-experimental
[18:39] <bambee> see yourself http://paste.ubuntu.com/633147/
[18:39] <bambee> and conclude
[18:40] <bambee> (libs/kworspace, kwin, plasma/desktop/shell ....)
[18:40] <yofel> no, plasma in kdelibs was fixed to not depend on experimental, same should apply to kde-workspace
[18:40] <bambee> really? I did not know that
[18:40] <yofel> that list is just great...
[18:40] <yofel> ah, you're not on packagers...
[18:41] <yofel> and Harald is gone -.-
[18:41] <bambee> no...
[18:41] <bambee> I should?
[18:42] <yofel> well, the pre-release discussion is done there, although you probably should do some more packaging since we need someone to vouch for you (e.g. Harald)
[18:44] <bambee> yofel: I already had a discussion with Riddell about that, he does not want to subscribe a non member user :)
[18:44] <yofel> I know, I remember it
[18:49] <yofel> shadeslayer_: do you know how one should name experimental packages? libkactivities5-experimental ?
[18:49] <shadeslayer_> we shouldn't ship experimental packaages
[18:49] <shadeslayer_> -a
[18:50] <yofel> sure, but look at bambee's paste
[18:50] <bambee> yofel: I can disable  plasma/generic/tools/remote-widgets-browser
[18:50] <bambee> but the rest...
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> yofel: it was decided on the plasma ml that they will insert headers in the plasma sources
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> and thus statically link against the
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> *them
[18:50] <yofel> when?
[18:50] <bambee> I propose to disable it because we cannot drop kdeclarative from it (see plasma/generic/tools/remote-widgets-browser/main.cpp)
[18:50]  * yofel clones kde-workspace git
[18:51] <shadeslayer_> it was on the plasma ml, and i can get you the thread name, but can't get the actual email link
[18:51] <shadeslayer_> cuz i can't access most of the kde websites
[18:53] <yofel> wow, kde-workspace git is huge, and it doesn't even have the wallpapers...
[18:53] <shadeslayer_> yeah
[18:53] <shadeslayer_> btw any issues with libkipi?
[18:53] <yofel> ah, didn't look yet, sry
[18:54] <shadeslayer_> the thread name is : [4.7 Beta1 blocker] plasma depending on kdelibs/experimental
[18:54] <yofel> I remember *that* thread
[18:54] <bambee> yofel: you should get it from ftpmaster.. :)
[18:54] <yofel> and kdelibs/plasma was fixed
[18:55] <bambee> (I mean, ftpmaster.k.o)
[18:55] <shadeslayer_> here's the thread : http://paste.kde.org/88231
[18:55] <yofel> bambee: I wanted 4.6.90+
[18:55] <bambee> ok
[18:56] <yofel> bambee: sure it's failing?
[18:56] <bambee> yofel: what?
[18:56] <yofel> there is kde-workspace/libs/kworkspace/kactivityinfo.h
[18:56] <yofel> so it shouldn't need kdelibs/experimental
[18:57] <yofel> or do they just include the headers and try link statically against kdelibs?
[18:57] <bambee> why there are exactly the same headers in kdelibs-experimental ? o_O
[18:57] <yofel> bambee: so it doesn't depend on kdelibs-experimental 
[18:58] <yofel> which isn't allowed as we just discussed
[18:58] <bambee> ahhh...
[18:58] <yofel> hm, no, the .cpp files are there too, so there should be no reason for it to fail
[18:59] <shadeslayer_> bambee: try again with new tarball from git
[18:59] <bambee> shadeslayer_: ok
[18:59] <yofel> nah, there doesn't seem to be a change from 4.6.90 three
[18:59] <yofel> *there
[19:00] <shadeslayer_> oh .. then why does it fail 0.o
[19:00] <yofel> bambee: what's the actual failure
[19:00] <yofel> ?
[19:00] <bambee> I will try again
[19:00] <bambee> wait
[19:02] <wgrant> yofel: What needs renaming?
[19:02] <yofel> kdebase -> kde-baseapps
[19:03] <yofel> shadeslayer_: libkipi looks fine
[19:03] <shadeslayer_> \o/
[19:03] <wgrant> yofel: Done.
[19:03]  * shadeslayer_ does the upload dance
[19:04] <shadeslayer_> wgrant: oh while you're at it, can you move a branch ?
[19:04]  * yofel hugs wgrant
[19:04] <wgrant> shadeslayer_: Possibly.
[19:04] <wgrant> Which, and where?
[19:04] <shadeslayer_> one sec
[19:05] <shadeslayer_> https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi now has a project : https://launchpad.net/libkipi
[19:06] <shadeslayer_> https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/kde-baseapps/kate now has a project https://launchpad.net/kate
[19:07] <yofel> while at it:
[19:07] <yofel> lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/kde-baseapps should be lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/master and linked to lp:kde-baseapps
[19:07] <yofel> kill the existing trunk branch
[19:08] <shadeslayer_> yofel: can i upload ksnapshot?
[19:08] <yofel> ask apachelogger, in his absence I would say yes
[19:08] <shadeslayer_> well he isn't here so ..
[19:09] <wgrant> shadeslayer_, yofel: I can't move those, but you could through the API.
[19:10] <yofel> I'll read the docs later then
[19:10] <shadeslayer_> alright, thanks!
[19:10] <wgrant> from launchpadlib.launchpad import Launchpad; lp = Launchpad.login_with('blah whatever', 'production'); lp.load('/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi').setTarget(project=lp.projects['libkipi'])
[19:25]  * shadeslayer_ tries
[19:26] <shadeslayer_> wgrant: well i used lp-shell and it gives me a 404 when i run lp.load('/~neon/kdegraphics/libkipi').setTarget(project=lp.projects['libkipi'])
[19:27] <shadeslayer_> here's the entire paste : http://paste.kde.org/88243
[19:32] <shadeslayer_> more weirdness ... staging gives me a KeyError 0.o
[19:32] <wgrant> shadeslayer_: Ah, launchpadlib bug. It tried to reload the entry with the old URL.
[19:32] <wgrant> So the move succeeded.
[19:33] <wgrant> https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/libkipi/libkipi
[19:33] <shadeslayer_> alright
[19:34] <bambee> piou... I have cleaned my processor fan... I won 25°C  o_O
[19:35] <shadeslayer_> fixed kate too
[19:35] <shadeslayer_> wgrant: can you link those branches to lp:kate and lp:libkipi?
[19:37] <wgrant> shadeslayer_: Both done.
[19:37] <shadeslayer_> thanks :)
[19:38] <yofel> wgrant: and lp:~neon/kde-baseapps/master to lp:kde-baseapps
[19:43] <bambee> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633168/
[19:44] <yofel> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkactivities is not linking statically...
[19:44] <bambee> have a look at plasma/desktop/shell/CMakeLists.txt (it's explicitly linked against kactivities)
[19:48] <bambee> shadeslayer_: found, http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=130596894032402&w=2
[19:48] <yofel> right, which sounds wrong... try to remove kactivities in that line
[19:48] <shadeslayer_> ok wth .... i can open that url 0.o
[19:48] <shadeslayer_> but i can't open kde.org
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> uh
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> gwenview : image viewer
[19:51] <shadeslayer_> thats it? 0.o
[19:52] <bambee> so the solution would be to link plasma-desktop against kactivities statically ?
[19:52] <shadeslayer_> bambee: yes
[19:53] <shadeslayer_> more of a workaround till kdelibs is fixed really
[19:53] <bambee> I agree
[19:55] <bambee> yofel: ping me when you've done for libkactivities 
[19:56] <shadeslayer_> can't access launchpad now 
[19:56] <shadeslayer_> wtf
[19:56]  * shadeslayer_ kills his ISP provider with fire
[19:56] <shadeslayer_> bbiab
[19:58] <yofel> well, if we can fix kde-workspace I would rather leave kdelibs as it is
[20:12] <shadeslayer_> any ideas what a debian/installgen file does?
[20:13] <shadeslayer_> there's nothing about it on the new maintainers guid
[20:13] <shadeslayer_> s/guid/guide/
[20:13] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ meant: "there's nothing about it on the new maintainers guide"
[20:13] <yofel> nope, was wondering that too...
[20:13] <yofel> could be an ancient predecessor of the .install files
[20:14] <shadeslayer_> well what is it doing in kdegraphics/debian/installgen then :P
[20:17] <shadeslayer_> yofel: oh also, are you using the "Kubuntu Packages" text while building packages?
[20:17] <shadeslayer_> in the rules file
[20:17] <yofel> don't think so....
[20:18] <shadeslayer_> should/shouldn't we?
[20:19] <yofel> I only see the kdelibs cmake file looking for that, but haven't check too many packages
[20:21] <bambee> yofel: fixed
[20:21] <shadeslayer_> hmm
[20:22] <yofel> bambee: good
[20:25] <bambee> workspace-wallpapers has been moved outside kde-workspace ? (no wallpapers are installed )
[20:25] <yofel> right, that's kde-wallpapers now
[20:26] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633179/ :D
[20:26] <bambee> yofel: ah ok
[20:26] <bambee> it does make sense then...
[20:30] <shadeslayer_> i think this is the longest copyright i've seen in KDE : Copyright: © 1991-2009, Thomas G. Lane.
[20:32] <shadeslayer_> oh fooey
[20:53] <apachelogger> geee
[20:54] <apachelogger> what is the deal with them stupid mountains and their even more stupid tunnels
[20:54] <apachelogger> eek
[20:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you spammed me!
[20:54] <shadeslayer_> did i?
[20:54] <apachelogger> failed ksnapshot
[20:54] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: the FTBFS?
[20:55] <shadeslayer_> ah blame launchpad for delayed publishing of packages
[20:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_, yofel: installgen is used to generate .install files based on the ruleset in installgen
[20:55] <apachelogger> lord modax wrote it some time ago IIRC
[20:55] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: do we still require it?
[20:55] <apachelogger> dh_installgen is the bin that does the work
[20:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: why yes
[20:55] <apachelogger> except
[20:55] <apachelogger> due to the split you mostly can install everything and your mom 
[20:56] <apachelogger> as one source == one binary, thus rendering installgen useless for those usecases
[20:56] <apachelogger> for multi-binary sources it is still useful
[20:56] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: is this file documented somewhere?
[20:56] <apachelogger> except no one of you knows how to use it :P
[20:56] <shadeslayer_> couldn't find it
[20:56] <apachelogger> puny humans
[20:56] <shadeslayer_> hahaha 
[20:56] <apachelogger> must be the reason yofel is no kubuntu-dev
[20:57] <apachelogger> then again at UDS some comments from Quintasan_ made me wonder why he is :P
[20:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: I think dh_installgen is in pkg-kde-tools
[20:57] <apachelogger> there should be documentation one way or another
[20:58] <apachelogger> though with modax I would say, he implemented a documentation paradigm like mine, meaning commit message documentation :P
[20:58] <shadeslayer_> well there's no man entry for dh_installgen
[20:58] <apachelogger> ... what I said ...
[20:59] <shadeslayer_> ^_^
[21:02] <yofel> yeah right, apt-file can't even find dh_installgen
[21:03] <yofel> which century is that from? ^^
[21:05] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: my terminal is all sorts of fluffy :P http://i.imgur.com/GsIyY.png
[21:06] <yofel> http://old.nabble.com/Learn-packaging-td29507365.html indicates they're not used anymore
[21:06] <yofel> apachelogger is outdated :P
[21:06] <shadeslayer_> hahaha
[21:07] <apachelogger> I said they are useful, I did not say that they are used
[21:08] <ScottK> NCommander: And as an added bonus it seems to be working.
[21:08] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:08] <yofel> apachelogger: <apachelogger> for multi-binary sources it is still useful
[21:08] <yofel> hm
[21:08] <yofel> nvm
[21:08] <apachelogger> ...
[21:09] <yofel> at least we know we can ignore them
[21:09] <apachelogger> the format is rather tedious and IMHO prone to error though
[21:09] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGPYSE4nXUM
[21:09] <apachelogger> what would make more sense is associate packages with folders then decide where to put stuff based on what target cmake got the files from
[21:09] <yofel> . . .
[21:11] <apachelogger> I might just implement that
[21:11] <shadeslayer_> ok wth everything just got installed into /usr/local :/
[21:12] <apachelogger> you haz broken the packaging
[21:12] <apachelogger> congrats
[21:14] <shadeslayer_> i have a idea what i did wrong
[21:14]  * shadeslayer_ tries to fix
[21:29] <sheytan_> apachelogger did you see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc ?
[21:32] <shadeslayer_> nope, not working, still wants to install to /usr/local
[21:32] <shadeslayer_> sheytan_: thats quite old ^_^
[21:32] <yofel> what happened to lightdm-kde btw.? (though the rc has priority right now)
[21:33] <sheytan_> shadeslayer_: but still cool :D
[21:33] <shadeslayer_> yeah :)
[21:41]  * yofel uploads konsole
[21:41] <yofel> that dput error is getting annoying...
[21:41] <shadeslayer_> yeah
[21:43] <shadeslayer_> btw any ideas why gwenview is installing stuff into /usr/local? ( rules : http://paste.ubuntu.com/633212/ , build log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/633213/ )
[21:46] <yofel> shadeslayer_: and where is the problem there?
[21:46] <yofel> you DO realize that svgpart is in another package?
[21:47]  * shadeslayer_ stares at changelog
[21:47]  * yofel thinks shadeslayer_ is too tired to package
[21:47] <yofel> shadeslayer_: you should rather stare at svgpart-4.6.90.tar.bz2
[21:47] <shadeslayer_> heh
[21:48] <yofel> and then wonder why your gwenview install file wants to isntall svgpart
[21:48] <yofel> *install
[21:49] <shadeslayer_> i actually didn't check the build log thouroughly and thought it wanted to install stuff into /usr/local like last time
[21:49] <yofel> . . .
[21:49] <shadeslayer_> yeah, i'm going to take a bit of a break after gwenview
[21:52] <shadeslayer_> i guess gwenview will also require svgpart as a depends now
[21:54] <yofel> doesn't in neon
[21:55] <yofel> could be a runtime dependency though. Or plugin
[21:55] <yofel> Plugin I guess
[21:57] <shadeslayer_> runtime dep imo
[21:58] <yofel> well, try to run it without it and you'll know ^^
[21:58] <shadeslayer_> heh :P
[21:58] <shadeslayer_>  or i could just remove the svgpart neon package from my install and run gwenview
[21:59] <shadeslayer_> ah well, it runs
[22:00] <shadeslayer_> yofel: i'll put it in Suggests then
[22:01] <yofel> k
[22:10] <shadeslayer_> yofel: question, why does konsole-dbg only suggest konsole? why not depend on konsole?
[22:10] <shadeslayer_> because i usually put suggests and i got dbg-package-missing-depends from lintian
[22:10] <yofel> ah, I just kept that from kdebase, since it's a single binary package now Depends would be right
[22:10] <yofel> fixing
[22:13] <shadeslayer_> plz2review : https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/gwenview/ubuntu
[22:14]  * shadeslayer_ goes on a break
[22:19] <apachelogger> sheytan_: it is on me facebook
[22:20]  * apachelogger arrived in graz once more
[22:20] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer_: you should voice opinion on branch moving thread on ml
[22:20] <apachelogger> if we move we better do it now before creating the other 30 projects
[22:21] <ScottK> apachelogger: You saw I updated my opinion?
[22:21] <ScottK> I think I'm now up to "Fine, as long as I don't have to do it."
[22:21] <yofel> true... I don't care much about the links, but the projects are annoying
[22:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: yeah
[22:21] <yofel> It does put our neon imports into the right place though
[22:21] <shadeslayer_> ^^ 
[22:21] <shadeslayer_> was about to say that
[22:22] <apachelogger> I do not care so much about the work you have to do :P
[22:22] <shadeslayer_> i'm actually quite fine with setting up a project
[22:22] <shadeslayer_> ( for each of the branches we create )
[22:22] <shadeslayer_> it's like 5 minutes of work ...
[22:23] <apachelogger> kde core has some 200 indivdual apps/libs
[22:23] <apachelogger> that is 200*5
[22:23] <apachelogger> nono I say
[22:24] <apachelogger> besides, it goes beyond the scope of core KDE
[22:24] <apachelogger> like any thing we track in bzr needs a project
[22:24] <apachelogger> extragear, playground you name it
[22:25] <shadeslayer_> but not all of those 200 apps/libs have their own git repos do they?
[22:25] <apachelogger> they will once the great migration plan is worked out
[22:25] <apachelogger> the long-term target is to have individual repos
[22:25] <shadeslayer_> even moar splitting? O_O
[22:25] <apachelogger> so we do 100 now and 100 more when 5.0 comes around
[22:26] <sheytan_> apachelogger what do you mean not you on facebook?
[22:26] <apachelogger> the narwhals are on the friendface
[22:26] <apachelogger> I postered them like ages ago
[22:27] <sheytan_> ah
[22:28] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: sure, its a bit more work .... but it will only benefit us in keeping things clean and organized more appropriately
[22:28] <yofel> well, in absence of strong arguments for all those project I'm fine with a kubuntu-packaging project
[22:28] <yofel> YOU do the moving though this time
[22:28] <yofel> scripting it would be a good idea...
[22:29] <yofel> it means we need to fix all Vcs links again though too
[22:29] <apachelogger> pyth0rn scripting
[22:29] <apachelogger> weehe
[22:29] <apachelogger> yofel: well, we are packaging right now, so... ;)
[22:29] <yofel> true
[22:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: how does it make things more clean or organized?
[22:30] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: everything is associated with their project pages?
[22:30] <shadeslayer_> *because everything ...
[22:30] <apachelogger> and the project page is bigtime mumbo jumbo because it is really just a pointless replica of the one on projects.kde.org
[22:32] <yofel> as I said, It makes some sense for us neon maintainers, for the others it's probably pointless
[22:33] <shadeslayer_> yep ^^
[22:33] <apachelogger> kubotu: roll a dice
[22:33] <shadeslayer_> ofcourse i'm biased
[22:33] <shadeslayer_> so don't heed my advice ^_^
[22:41] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: okular package is bogus, it misses a copy of FDL for the documentation
[22:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: you broke the ksnapshot table row
[22:42] <shadeslayer_> table what
[22:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: kate has no license copy whatsoever
[22:43] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: you mean there's no license in debian/copyright?
[22:44] <apachelogger> no
[22:44] <apachelogger> there i no complete copy of the license
[22:44] <apachelogger> in the source
[22:44] <shadeslayer_> upstream issue then, want me send them a email?
[22:44] <apachelogger> you have upstream commit access, no?
[22:44] <shadeslayer_> yep
[22:45] <apachelogger> fix it, repack the tarball with copies
[22:45] <apachelogger> upload new version
[22:45] <shadeslayer_> hmm ok
[22:45] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: oh wait, i can't commit
[22:45] <shadeslayer_> commit server is down for me
[22:45] <apachelogger> yofel: FWIW konsole also misses FDL copy
[22:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: whut?
[22:46] <apachelogger> ping git.kde.org
[22:46] <shadeslayer_> From so-2-0-0.0.ejr01.fra002.flagtel.com (85.95.25.174) icmp_seq=2 Time to live exceeded
[22:46] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: most of the kde sites are down for me because a router at hetzner is down
[22:47] <apachelogger> wrong ip
[22:47] <yofel> oh true, I forgot about the docs :(
[22:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: use a proper DNS
[22:47] <apachelogger> opendns for example
[22:47] <apachelogger> google dns also should be up-to-date
[22:47] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: i use google's dns 
[22:47] <shadeslayer_> +server
[22:47] <apachelogger> so it is no up-to-date :P
[22:47] <apachelogger> use opendns
[22:47] <shadeslayer_> heh
[22:47] <shadeslayer_> alright
[22:47] <yofel> apachelogger: how do I fix that?
[22:47] <apachelogger> or edit yoru hosts file
[22:47] <apachelogger> 195.135.221.71 is the correct ip for git.kde.org
[22:48] <apachelogger> yofel: do you haz commit access?
[22:48] <yofel> yep
[22:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: gwenview also suffers from missing FDL
[22:48] <apachelogger> yofel: cp /usr/share/common-licenses/GFDL-1.2 COPYING.DOC
[22:49] <apachelogger> mind that you need to fix it in KDE/4.7 and then forward cherry pick to master
[22:49] <yofel> k, lemme check how you did it for ksnapshot
[22:49] <yofel> right, now I first need to read the docs again how one does that...
[22:49] <apachelogger> just open the docbook :P
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[22:50] <apachelogger> ....
[22:50] <yofel> wth is GLGPL2 o.O
[22:50] <apachelogger> contains the authors 
[22:50] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: i'm on a break right now, will fix laterz
[22:50] <apachelogger> yofel: in celebration of typoday
[22:50] <yofel> ah lol
[22:50] <shadeslayer_> hahaha
[22:50] <apachelogger> also mind that the authorgroup markup can contain other stuff than the actual authors
[22:50] <apachelogger> like reviewers for example
[22:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: oh for gwenview it is not actually a problem
[22:51] <apachelogger> the FDL notice is commented out there
[22:51] <apachelogger> agateau: your docs have no license my friend :P
[22:51] <shadeslayer_> bbiab
[22:53] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: the ip is fine
[22:53] <shadeslayer_> shadeslayer@yofel-thinkpad ~/packaging/ksnapshot-4.6.90 » ping git.kde.org
[22:53] <shadeslayer_> PING git.kde.org (195.135.221.71) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:53] <shadeslayer_> 64
[22:54] <shadeslayer_> the router at the dc is borked
[22:54] <apachelogger> tracepath to the rescue
[22:54] <shadeslayer_> can't access quassel core, kde.org, projects.kde.org, edu.kde.org and other stuff
[22:54] <yofel> fun
[22:55] <apachelogger> all kaput
[22:55] <shadeslayer_> yeah, its been like that for 3 days
[22:55] <apachelogger> you should like call someone somewhere
[22:55] <yofel> make a tunnel through my server (note: I have no idea how to do that)
[22:55] <shadeslayer_> ^^ iirc you use ssh -D 5000
[22:55] <shadeslayer_> but idk what to do next :P
[22:56] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/88405
[22:56] <apachelogger> the google does
[22:56] <apachelogger> it is made out of knowledge
[22:58] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: do i need any special perms for this?
[22:58] <apachelogger> the google knows
[22:58] <apachelogger> it is made out of knowledge
[22:59] <shadeslayer_> nope, still out ...
[23:00] <shadeslayer_> obviously i'm doing it wrong :P
[23:02] <apachelogger> it happens
[23:02] <apachelogger> awoga
[23:03] <apachelogger> germinate be using the  old core-dev branch in the natty
[23:03] <apachelogger> silly beast
[23:04]  * yofel looks for that git thread in kde-core-devel
[23:04] <yofel> before I do something totally silly...
[23:07] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: would yofel  need to open up a port on his router as well?
[23:07] <yofel> apachelogger: ok, where do I fix that first? master or KDE/4.7
[23:07] <yofel> I have a few ports open, lemme look what range
[23:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: the google will know
[23:08] <apachelogger> it is made out of knowledge
[23:08] <apachelogger> yofel: branch then cherry-pick to master
[23:10] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/553484
[23:10] <apachelogger> plz tell me opinions
[23:10] <yofel> shadeslayer_: 23301-23400 is forwareded, something in the middle of that should work
[23:10] <shadeslayer_> ok
[23:10] <yofel> typoday--
[23:10] <apachelogger> typoday++
[23:12] <yofel> k, I think I've gotten where in that docbook the licensing info is. It doesn't state the license though
[23:12] <shadeslayer_> Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.
[23:13] <yofel> ah wait, FDL
[23:13] <yofel> now...
[23:13] <apachelogger> spam spam spam spam
[23:13] <apachelogger> spam 
[23:13] <apachelogger> egg with bacon and spam 
[23:14] <yofel> fried spam
[23:14] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: if nothing else deps on ooo draw ( except impress ) kick it off
[23:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: well, that cuts impress in half
[23:14] <apachelogger> I am not even sure it would be possible
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> huh
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> debug2: channel 12: pre_dynamic: have 0
[23:15] <apachelogger> i.e. it is a highly integrated part
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> dunno what that means
[23:15] <apachelogger> all the box drawing mumbo jumbo is done by draw I reckon
[23:15] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: kick both off the CD?
[23:15] <apachelogger> Oo
[23:15] <apachelogger> you propose we do not ship a presentation app by default?
[23:16] <apachelogger> what have you been smokin' :O
[23:16] <yofel> hard to make my mind up here, I used draw like... twice?
[23:16] <shadeslayer_> Google Docs++
[23:16] <shadeslayer_> move everything to the cloud :P
[23:16] <yofel> never used that yet ^^
[23:16] <shadeslayer_> ^^ never used OOo
[23:16] <yofel> heh
[23:17] <shadeslayer_> oh btw Kubuntu on the cloud would be fun
[23:17] <apachelogger> define
[23:17] <yofel> k, switched to branch KDE/4.7
[23:19] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: multiple kubuntu instances running on a Amazon EC2 machine
[23:19] <shadeslayer_> s/a/multiple/
[23:19] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ meant: "multiplepachelogger: multiple kubuntu instances running on a Amazon EC2 machine"
[23:19] <shadeslayer_> LOL ^^
[23:19] <apachelogger> you my dear friend do not know how to use sed
[23:19] <apachelogger> also 
[23:19] <apachelogger> define
[23:20] <apachelogger> TBL's original WWW proposal was less vague than what you are talking about
[23:21] <yofel> I'll use your commit message
[23:22] <apachelogger> with the typo plz
[23:22] <yofel> I don't add any LGPL :P
[23:22] <apachelogger> that was no typo :P
[23:23] <yofel> oh wait, konsole HAS stuff under the LGPL...
[23:23] <yofel> heck, even MIT -.-
[23:24] <shadeslayer_> huh interesting, i can use : curl --socks5 localhost:23340 google.com 
[23:24] <apachelogger> yofel: MIT is a copy by itself :P
[23:25] <yofel> yeah
[23:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: that is one way to operate the googlez
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> alright, i can curl sites
[23:25] <shadeslayer_> but firefox doesn't want to open them :P
[23:26] <apachelogger> firefail
[23:28] <yofel> gaah, your stupid typos are confusing me -.-
[23:28] <apachelogger> "A: My shoutcase is not working; B: Hit your capslock key"
[23:28] <apachelogger> it is one of me favorite quotes from randa
[23:28] <yofel> haha
[23:31] <shadeslayer_> \o/
[23:31] <shadeslayer_> i haz kde.org
[23:32] <yofel> write a wiki page on how you did it
[23:32] <yofel> or get me your shell log :P
[23:32] <apachelogger> blogz it
[23:32] <apachelogger> also
[23:32] <yofel> oh yeah, preferred method
[23:32] <apachelogger> it is rather boring news
[23:32] <apachelogger> I haz kde.org for years
[23:32] <yofel> lol
[23:35] <yofel> GLGPL2 makes you dizzy just trying to understand it...
[23:36] <apachelogger> gnu
[23:36] <apachelogger> lesser
[23:37] <apachelogger> general
[23:37] <apachelogger> public
[23:37] <apachelogger> license
[23:37] <apachelogger> two
[23:37] <apachelogger> [x] bug fixed
[23:37] <yofel> sure, it's still abbreviated by LGPL :P
[23:37] <apachelogger> not my fault that people cannot read :P
[23:37] <apachelogger> GPL2
[23:37] <apachelogger> gnu
[23:37] <apachelogger> general
[23:37] <apachelogger> public
[23:37] <apachelogger> license
[23:37] <apachelogger> two
[23:37] <apachelogger> [x] qed
[23:37] <yofel> I know, blame whoever did it...
[23:38] <apachelogger> I shall blame shadeslayer_
[23:38] <yofel> LOL
[23:38] <apachelogger> [x] blame distribution successful
[23:38] <yofel> ah well, people will at least know who got me to add the files...
[23:38] <apachelogger> righto
[23:39] <apachelogger> general question of interest: whatever happened to JontheEchidna
[23:39] <JontheEchidna> summer job
[23:39] <yofel> iirc he has a job now, and WAS there today for a minute
[23:39] <yofel> oh hey
[23:39] <JontheEchidna> o/
[23:39] <apachelogger> you are a poor soul JontheEchidna
[23:40] <yofel> apachelogger: ok, now I have: http://paste.kde.org/88441
[23:40] <yofel> in KDE/4.7 - push?
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> working on a 1.1.85 release for muon. Waiting on tarballs to propogate to the various KDE mirrors
[23:40] <apachelogger> yofel: yus
[23:40] <apachelogger> and master
[23:40] <apachelogger> dont forget the maters
[23:40] <yofel> adds COPYING.DOC and COPYING.LIB
[23:40] <apachelogger> or else
[23:40] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: heh typo
[23:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: talking about the muonz, do we put the manager on the CD?
[23:41] <apachelogger> also the updater has scary UI
[23:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: perhasp it was, perhusp it was not
[23:42] <shadeslayer_> heh :)
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> Since MSC doesn't do non-app packages, I think we should get muon on the CD. (It is currently on the CD in a provisional manner)
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> I'm also planning on a separate UI for the updater in 1.3. I have some notes in the todo in the source
[23:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: couldn't you add search based no-app capability to the MSC?
[23:43] <yofel> yay, first kde git commit ^^ http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=konsole.git&a=commit&h=f04e45f421c476d614550cc78401b3f34686102a
[23:43] <shadeslayer_> yofel++
[23:43] <yofel> now... how do you cherry pick again...
[23:43] <shadeslayer_> yofel: git cherry-pick <sha1>
[23:43] <shadeslayer_> ok bbiab
[23:43] <yofel> so, git checkout master -> git cherry-pick... ?
[23:43] <apachelogger> yus
[23:43] <yofel> k
[23:44] <apachelogger> as a matter of fact the short sha should be sufficient to cp
[23:44] <yofel> right
[23:44] <apachelogger> (and you should have the short sha in your terminal somewhere from the commits)
[23:44] <yofel> well, you can use any part of the sha as long as it's not bogus
[23:45] <shadeslayer> \o/
[23:45] <yofel> hey
[23:45] <shadeslayer> quassel core tunneled over SOCKS xD
[23:46] <yofel> http://commits.kde.org/konsole/c8903d90f6835e5bb9d17cec91ed051579f860a7
[23:46] <yofel> that wasn't as complicated as I feared...
[23:47] <apachelogger> yofel: are you in #kde-devel?
[23:47] <yofel> jus
[23:47] <apachelogger> tsdgeos will probably poke you about your funny spelling of LGPL then :P
[23:47] <shadeslayer> haha :P
[23:48] <yofel> sure, I'll blame you
[23:49] <yofel> that guy sure is persistent about negative kcalc behaviour...
[23:50] <yofel> k, now to fix konsole package...
[23:51] <shadeslayer> ok now i have no idea how to get a SOCKS proxy in a shell
[23:54] <yofel> uh...
[23:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: ksnapshot_4.6.90+repack.orig.tar.bz2 haz no COPYING files
[23:57] <apachelogger> I wonder if me bug report was too uglies
[23:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: great job there
[23:57] <apachelogger> s/bug report/bug comment/
[23:57] <kubotu> apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[23:57] <apachelogger> oh
[23:57] <apachelogger> rightz
[23:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where?
[23:57] <apachelogger> where what?
[23:57] <yofel> ksnapshot
[23:58] <apachelogger> snap
[23:58] <yofel> re-upload as repack2, this time WITH copyrights
 shadeslayer: great job there
[23:58] <shadeslayer> ^^ where?
[23:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kaput ksnapshot tar
[23:59] <shadeslayer> oh derp
[23:59] <apachelogger> now the only way to get a new tar in is repack1
[23:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sorry
[23:59] <shadeslayer> i should have realized that before i uploaded that ...
[23:59] <apachelogger> there is a reason I suffixed with +repack :P
[23:59] <apachelogger> though I probably did not mention why in the changelog