/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/26/#kubuntu.txt

Linkmastergalat:  I'm willing to bet that as the processes are terminated, one is being continued which has the window pop back up, then its subsequently terminated, causing the window to completely drop00:00
szalSIR_Taco: since installing Natty I ran an 'aptitude full-upgrade' once (which installs new recommends and dependencies etc.), otherwise I run 'aptitude upgrade', which is equivalent to 'aptitude safe-ugrade' and only updates existing pkgs00:00
* Linkmaster enters god-mode00:00
szals/existing/installed/00:00
lcbgalat: i have a dream... oops, sorry, luther king come to my mind. again. i have a feeling that is an option on desktop effects is doing that00:00
galatI'm totally new to kubuntu, then I gathered - well, that might be quite normal and here I am asking dumb questions, but...00:01
LinkmasterThe only dumb question is the question that goes unasked :D00:01
lcbgalat: no dumb questions. dumb is not asking00:01
SIR_Tacoszal: yes, which is really what dist-upgrade does...00:01
Linkmaster^Great minds think alike00:01
lcbwow00:01
galatLinkmaster: hehe, okies, I'm going to remember this one... :]00:02
LinkmasterWhen I was new, gosh...I asked so many questions that with hindsight I'd be able to easily solve, and in fact have helped others solve as well. Its good to ask00:02
szalif I knew that I could completely remove it again, I'd install the nVidia 275 from nvidia.com to check00:02
lcbgalat: do one thing. install Desktop Toggle Effects from widgets. then turn OFF and check if that symptom still persists00:03
SIR_Tacoszal: are the nvidia modules working? lsmod | grep nvidia00:03
galatlcb: will do just that, thank you.00:03
galatBRB then00:03
szalSIR_Taco: no doubt about that, otherwise there wouldn't be an NVIDIA error in the log, would there?00:03
lcbgalat: there are other ways of turning it off. but that one makes you have a switsh on your desktop or panel00:03
SIR_Tacoszal: Yes, but humour me00:04
LinkmasterI've actually got a question..if I run LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 as root...would that cause permanent damage to my system?00:04
Linkmasterwith an 'export' right before that00:04
SIR_Tacoszal: I have no access to your computer, this is all blind, I can assume as much as I want, but you need to eliminate the obvious00:05
szalSIR_Taco: nvidia              10709116  4000:05
lcbLinkmaster: like a terminal kubuntu disease? sorry, i don't know unless i digg a bit on it.00:05
galatBK. Yup, that was that :]00:06
SIR_Tacoszal: ok, what does "nvidia-settings --version" report for it's version number?00:06
LinkmasterI'm just thinking, since our kernel is what...2.6.38 or something?00:06
galatThank you very much guys :]00:06
szalnvidia-settings:  version 270.29  (buildd@allspice)  Fri Feb 25 14:42:07 UTC 201100:06
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: Mine's 3.0 :P00:06
lcbgalat: so now, "check" your checked desktop effects and try to discover the one making that00:06
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: I want that >:l00:06
szalLinkmaster: yes, 2.6.38-8 on Natty00:06
galatlcb: yup, I am doing that now :]00:07
lcb:) glad Linkmaster helped00:07
LinkmasterHow'd I help? :P00:07
lcbLinkmaster: staying near by00:07
LinkmasterYep. Firecontrol is my duty00:07
szalI heard that 2.6.39 fixes a lot of graphics issues, so I wonder how far the kernel team got in backporting the fixes; it's been 2 months into Natty & not a kernel update yet00:07
lcblol00:07
SIR_Tacoszal: I may be on 11.10, but I think that's a low version number. No one else has an nVidia caard??00:07
* Linkmaster has a system composed of entirely broadcom and Intel00:08
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: yes, I know you have the systems with a dash of the devil lol00:08
Linkmaster:D00:09
LinkmasterIt sometimes works00:09
lcbtime to sleep. 8 mts after midnight here. today is another one, different and better, i hope. nite nite guys & gals, Inc.00:09
szallol00:09
SIR_Taconight lcb, sleep well00:09
szalSIR_Taco: bug 76157500:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 761575 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "X-server hangs while starting some GTK programs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76157500:11
szalsimilar bugs reported for Arch Linux and Gentoo00:12
Linkmasterokay, 'export' doesn't last across boots so even if I bork my system it'll be fine on a reboot. The LD_ASSUME_KERNEL part means to set an environmental for configuring thingys....thats a really old kernel though :P00:12
SIR_Tacoszal: well that seems to explain it00:13
* Linkmaster goes off to find out to mount an .iso file on Linux00:14
galatOkay... checked: this would be "Fall apart" effect.00:14
szalLinkmaster: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso /path/to/mount/point/00:15
LinkmasterI just found that command, but thanks szal :D00:15
SIR_Tacoszal: I think you're stuck.... you could try installing the 185 drivers00:16
LinkmasterI have gotten a confusing error..00:18
Linkmastermount: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory00:18
SIR_Tacoyou don't really need the -t iso9660, unless you know that's the format of the CD00:19
LinkmasterI'm getting this error for every command I punch in, other then the cd00:20
LinkmasterI can't 'ls', for I get this:00:20
Linkmasterls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory00:20
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: do you have updates going on?00:20
LinkmasterNow I KNOW I borked something, but where and how is the question..00:20
LinkmasterNope00:21
LinkmasterNo downloads either00:21
SIR_Tacoyou can't do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?00:21
Linkmasterlet me try that real fast, didn't think of that00:21
Linkmasterdpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory00:21
LinkmasterI'm currently root, I don't know if that will cause a problem or not00:22
SIR_Taconot finding libc is a big problem00:22
LinkmasterI know that, which is why I'm wondering how I borked it. I haven't deleted anything00:22
Linkmasterand I'm afraid to restart now..00:22
galatare  you in CHROOT env by any chance?00:23
* Linkmaster hurredly grabs his external hard drive while he still has a GUI00:23
LinkmasterI'm not sure, I'm currently in sudo su00:23
LinkmasterI can use commands as a normal user just fine00:23
galattry to log into another console to verify?00:24
tsimpsonif you've somehow lost libc.so.6, you're in real trouble00:24
LinkmasterI knowww, and I haven't even done anything00:26
* keithzg figures it's finally time to upgrade to 11.04 on his main PC00:26
Linkmasternormal user works just fine though00:26
Linkmasterand I can execute things as 'sudo' such as 'sudo apt-get update'00:26
Linkmasterand I can run kdesudo kate with no problems...this is a big problem00:27
galatmaybe you did chown lic.so.6 to some normal user ;p00:27
Linkmasterbut root overturns everything00:27
szalLinkmaster: then it's the su thing; 'su' doesn't change environment variables; use 'su -' instead00:27
LinkmasterIts like...the Ace card in the game of spades00:28
LinkmasterCare to explain that szal?00:28
tsimpsonsu should not make libc disappear00:28
BondManeverytime i try to install anything i get the same error, can someone take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/etL9X0z600:28
LinkmasterI left su, did those tests, and went back in and I can now use regular commands00:28
szalLinkmaster: if you 'su' to another user, all commands are executed assuming your environment variables; if you 'su -' to another user, commands are executed with the other user's environment variables00:29
SIR_Taco"sudo apt-get instlal libc-bin"00:29
SIR_Tacoinstall even00:30
LinkmasterIts the newest version00:30
szalLinkmaster: just try it -> 'exit', then 'sudo su - username'00:30
Linkmasterokay00:30
Linkmasternothing happened...I'm still at a regular user prompt00:31
szalLinkmaster: the question is, does it still report missing libraries?00:31
tsimpsonit needs to be a different user00:31
szalyes, of course, everything else wouldn't make sense, even without the dash00:32
galatheh, I really missed those English locales :]00:32
LinkmasterI believe it freaked when I punched in 'export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.500:32
tsimpsonwell don't do that...00:32
szal!nvidia00:32
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:32
sysop3there is a feature I need to turn off in kde but I dont know the name of it. can someone help me? the feature is when you drag a window  just past the top of the screen this border appears around the edge of the screen and if you drop the window while the border is in place the window is full screened.00:32
LinkmasterI'm trying to install a game, and thats what the intallation instructions say...I was sketchy about it myself00:32
SIR_Tacoyes, not a good idea00:33
LinkmasterShould I attempt to install without the kernel assumption?00:33
tsimpsonLinkmaster: unless you're running a 2.2.x kernel, it's bad00:33
tsimpsonand if you are running a 2.2.x kernel, it's really bad00:33
LinkmasterI'm thinking the much newer kernel contains everything the older one needs00:34
tsimpsonand if this game was made during 2.2.x days, it's ancient00:34
LinkmasterYeah, 200300:34
tsimpsonno, even older than that00:34
tsimpson2.2 was long, long, long, long, long ago00:34
LinkmasterEver heard of Neverwinter Nights?00:34
LinkmasterI'll attempt to install without the assume kernel, and get back to you00:36
galatG'luck, Linkmaster ;]00:45
LinkmasterThis is frustrating...I'm mounting the .iso file, but dolphin isn't noticing it00:45
Linkmasterwait, I lied00:45
galatmy pain is, on the other hand, the runlevel...00:46
galatI cannot figure out where to put it, in order to make my box run in multiuser text by default00:47
SIR_Tacothe waar begins.... the people downstairs arre about to not like me :)00:47
galatyou're playing some good music? :]00:49
SIR_Tacogalat: good for me, bad for them... I don't like country music haha00:49
LINKSWORD2Greetings, all. :)00:49
BondManshockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo depmod -a00:50
BondManBus error00:50
BondManhow do i fix that/00:50
szalLinkmaster: iirc, you can mount ISOs in Dolphin through the context menu00:50
LINKSWORD2xD I don't like country music, either....00:50
LinkmasterI'm just being bothered now. I mounted the .iso file, and the shell script isn't accepting it...anyone care to look at what I'm doing?00:51
Linkmasterhttp://ldots.org/nwn00:51
Linkmastersupposedly, the installer will 'just work', and its not for me. I don't know why this is the case. I have the .iso mounted to /mnt/nwn00:51
LinkmasterDo they actually have to be CD's for this to work?00:51
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: I did that a long time ago... does it not just work from the CD?00:52
tsimpsonthe system has no notion of if it's a physical CD or not00:52
tsimpsonexcept for "raw" (audio CDs)00:52
LinkmasterHm...I'll burn the .iso's onto CD's then00:52
LinkmasterWait, according to tsimpson I can avoid this00:52
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: no, you shouldn't have to00:52
LinkmasterDo I just change the mount point then?00:53
LinkmasterOr do I edit the .sh file to look for /mnt/nwn ?00:53
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: are you getting an error?00:53
LINKSWORD2... I need to get a DVD/RW drive.00:53
LinkmasterNothing happens00:53
takoskihi how i can with 11.04 enter in compiz settings explain in simple word please thn00:53
LINKSWORD2All I've got is a DVD/ROM drive. :/00:53
LinkmasterNo errors, it does a tiny little configure, and then leaves00:53
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you have a script that tries to run the gaame?00:54
LINKSWORD2takoski, do you know how to find the System Settings menu?00:54
Linkmasternot tries and runs it, to install it00:54
takoskino00:54
LINKSWORD2What game, Linkmaster?00:54
LinkmasterNeverwinter Nights00:54
Linkmasterhttp://www.icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/00:54
LINKSWORD2Sweet. :)00:54
LinkmasterThats where the script came from00:54
LINKSWORD2Anyway....00:54
takoskilinkword2 no00:54
LINKSWORD2takoski: click on the applications menu.00:55
galatLinkmaster: that's a fine game indeed :]00:55
takoskiok00:55
LinkmasterWhich is why I'm trying so hard to make it work >:l00:55
LINKSWORD2Oh, screw this!00:55
galatSIR_Taco: what's your poison? :] (your choice of music)00:55
takoskiafter00:55
LinkmasterI think I'll just install wine...though it would've been nice to have it work natively on Linux. I've managed to get 8 months w/o wine00:56
SIR_Tacogalat: It would be alternative rock I suppose... Finger Eleven would be my favourite, but I like a mix of others too00:57
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: it will be easier with wine lol00:57
* Linkmaster gives SIR_Taco kudos 00:57
LINKSWORD2I'm considering torrent downloading Finger Eleven's discography.00:57
LinkmasterI don't care about easy, I'm proud to have a linux machine; I don't need wine clouding it up00:57
LINKSWORD2xD00:58
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: excellent band00:58
Linkmasterthey are inded00:58
Linkmaster*indeed00:58
* galat has to check for the songs...00:58
LINKSWORD2I've got a couple of their songs, but I think I should get complete albums.00:58
tsimpson1) wine is not windows < W.I.N.E, 2) you of course already own anything copyrighted you torrent..., 3) offtopic chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please :)00:59
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: I haven't found one I don't like, but they're getting softer.... one of my favourite (still together bands)00:59
galathmm... nice sounding voice :]01:00
LINKSWORD2SIR_Taco: What do you think of Saving Abel?01:00
SIR_TacoThey also were called the "Rainbow Butt Monkeys"... they changed their names for obvious reasons :P01:01
LINKSWORD2lmao01:01
tsimpsonplease move chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic01:01
galatLinkmaster: how about running wine for games?01:01
galattsimpson: kk, sorry for that.01:01
LinkmasterI play linux-native games only01:01
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: yes, also good01:02
Linkmastergalat: LINKSWORD2: SIR_Taco: get in #kubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss this01:02
SIR_Tacoyep, sorry... got off on a tangent01:02
LINKSWORD2Can I slap somebody?01:02
SIR_Taconow back to annoying my annoying neighbours (who run Kubuntu? lol)01:03
galatAnyhow, here's another in-topic question for you ;]01:05
SIR_Tacogalat: shoot01:06
galatHow is that, I cannot connect to IRC in no way at all (here I am running irc on friend's shell)01:07
galatI am behind a hardware firewall, okay, but ports are forwarded alright01:07
galatBesides, if it was for the port forwarding/blocking sake, then the http protocol is not forwarded in that HW firewall01:08
galatneither is ssh01:08
galatjust cannot figure it out ;/01:08
tsimpsonusually you don't need to forward ports for IRC01:09
SIR_Tacoso you haave http and ssh? but no irc?01:09
galatSIR_Taco: yup01:09
galattsimpson: that's what I thought up to... yestedday, when I hit the wall with my own face ;}01:10
LINKSWORD2lol01:10
LINKSWORD2That's gotta hurt.01:10
SIR_Tacogalat: you have port 194 open?01:10
galatAnyhow, back to the techie topic, any ideas?01:10
tsimpsonoutbound connections don't require port forwarding, they traverse NAT01:10
galathmm, checking...01:11
galat194? No... what's that for?01:11
SIR_Tacois that not for IRC? maybe I'm mistaken01:11
tsimpsondon't trust everything in /etc/services01:12
galatI thought 113 - identd... but here I have my identd installed as deamon and port forwarded ... and I have no clue what else could that be ;/01:12
tsimpsoncan you telnet into IRC?01:13
galathmm...01:13
galatgonna check...01:13
tsimpson"telnet irc.freenode.net 6667"01:13
tsimpsonyou should see some messages if it works, if not then something is blocking your outbound connection, possibly firewall or network/ISP being dumb01:14
galatit processes my connection now...01:15
tsimpsonif you can telnet in, then I guess check the setting in your client01:16
galatERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection timed out)01:16
LINKSWORD2:o01:16
LINKSWORD2lol01:16
tsimpsonthat's just because you didn't login01:16
tsimpsonyou still got messages from the server, proving you can connect to IRC01:16
galattsimpson: I couldn't login.01:17
galatI only got those 4 server notices...01:17
tsimpsonof course you couldn't, you don't know the IRC protocol like us 1337 people01:17
LINKSWORD2*Facepalm*01:17
tsimpsonbut the proof is that you can connect to the server, and communicate with it01:17
tsimpsonso it's something in your IRC software that's not working01:17
galatlike...01:18
galatin my irssi?01:18
tsimpsonlike wrong setting01:18
tsimpsonor some proxy setting gone wrong01:18
galathmm...01:18
LINKSWORD2tsimpson: I feel like you should be slapped for saying 1337...01:18
tsimpsonLINKSWORD2: I only use it ironically :)01:18
galatHmmmm....01:20
galatI checked through irssi...01:20
galatIt goes through.01:20
lemonsi have two monitors, is there anyway to get the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.04 to be on the left side of my second monitor(which i use as my main monitor) instead of the first monitor?01:21
galatMust be the irc-server is blocking connection.01:21
galatAnyway, thanks tsimpson - that explained A LOT :]01:21
tsimpson:)01:21
galatK...01:36
galatGood night ppl :]01:36
Linkmaster'Night01:36
lemonsi have two monitors, is there anyway to get the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.04 to be on the left side of my second monitor(which i use as my main monitor) instead of the first monitor?01:46
LINKSWORD2lemons: Perhaps I can help you, but I might need a little better of an explanation.02:05
KimLarouxSame here02:08
KimLarouxlemons, what exactly is the "bar on the left"? and are you using KDE?02:08
LINKSWORD2No response... :/02:12
LINKSWORD2What a disappointment.... :/02:22
KimLarouxhappens too often02:22
LINKSWORD2Shame.02:24
LinkmasterLINKSWORD2: you left -offtopic02:27
szalLinkmaster: no response expected since he decided to leave 10 mins before you answered02:28
Linkmasterszal: wrong Link?02:28
fenugreekguys, ordinary 10.04 install, amarok and dragon player don't play things02:28
fenugreeksorry they aren't playing from discs02:28
fenugreekaudio CDs & DVDs02:28
Linkmasterfenugreek: you installed the restricted extras?02:28
LinkmasterOh02:28
fenugreekpretty sure, I got that popup with the checkboxes02:28
Linkmastersounds like medibuntu perhaps?02:28
fenugreekmedibuntu?02:29
LinkmasterLINKSWORD2: help him with that, I forgot how to do it, since I've only done it once02:29
LINKSWORD2... Yeah, right. I've never done that.02:29
LinkmasterWell02:30
Linkmasterhold on one second then02:30
fenugreekit seems fairly regularly, this is the second install I've done that's had this issue with Amarok, though dragon player worked on the other one... (perhaps because I attempted but failed to switch it to use VLC by default for DVD playback)02:30
fenugreekseems to happen fairly regularly*02:30
KimLarouxfenugreek, so I take it the disks play on other sofwares?02:30
fenugreekhum, apt-get says kubuntu-restricted-extras isn't installed...02:31
wildgooseKimLaroux, maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs02:31
szalLinkmaster: yeah, right02:31
LinkmasterThen install that, and I'll find the link for medibuntu02:31
fenugreekwhat's medibuntu?02:31
Linkmastera bunch of useful things02:31
fenugreekuseful things?  Who needs'm!02:32
LinkmasterTrue, very true02:32
wildgooseoops meant for fenugreek02:32
fenugreekit's far out using desktop effects with this ancient nvidia AGP card02:32
* Linkmaster is confused...the medibuntu forum was deleted by the SQL corruption. hrm02:33
fenugreekwildgoose: something must've gone wrong with the checkbox popup at the beginning, the restricted-extras packages doesn't seem installed, gonna see if just installing that fixes it02:33
KimLarouxInterresting, I have a fresh install and I don't have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed... but still everything works.02:33
fenugreekKimLaroux: well that isn't boosting my confidence02:33
KimLarouxlol, checking the description of the package, I probably just installed all of those things manually, that's why02:34
fenugreekno apparent effect installing kubuntu-restricted-extras02:34
KimLarouxrestarted amarok?02:35
fenugreekinserting and opening in amarok or dragon player an audio CD or DVD respectively does nothing02:35
fenugreekyeah it wasn't running02:35
KimLarouxAre those disks encrypted?02:35
wildgoosefenugreek, Try my link02:36
KimLarouxAh, yes, I was gonna paste that exact link...02:36
fenugreekI will, but that likely won't do anything for audio CDs & amarok, right?02:36
KimLarouxI would try it before saying that02:37
fenugreekI'm starting to question 10.04.202:38
fenugreekdidn't have these issues with 10.04 installs02:38
KimLarouxI was on 11.04 last week, I formated and installed 10.04... I'm not upgrading till the next LTS02:39
fenugreekmmm02:39
SIR_Tacoeveryone has their own experiences02:40
KimLarouxI guess02:40
LINKSWORD2fenugreek:  I started with 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04, and everything here seems to be going fine.02:40
fenugreekthat seems a little drastic02:40
LINKSWORD2No, it's not.02:40
KimLarouxwhat's drastic?02:41
LINKSWORD210.10 is the most recent precursor to 11.04, so the upgrade process is relatively seamless.02:41
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: yes, but the .10 series is considered unstable..,02:41
fenugreekfor just getting dragon player and amarok to work?02:41
KimLarouxfenugreek, no, not at all02:42
KimLarouxit's just one command that opens up proprietary stuff02:42
fenugreekwhat is?02:42
KimLarouxthis :: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh02:42
SIR_Tacowow... I think I missed a huge discussion lol02:42
fenugreekyes I've done that02:42
KimLarouxand? it didn't work?02:43
fenugreeknope02:43
fenugreeklet me find commandline mplayer, can rule out hardware insanity02:43
wildgooseand restarted?02:43
fenugreekrestarted?  What is this Windows?02:43
KimLarouxI was gonna say reboot02:43
wildgoose"May require reboot"02:43
fenugreeknot doing either02:43
KimLarouxyes, it sounds windows-like... but you just installed a bunch of stuff02:43
SIR_Tacofenugreek: you're not using Windows?!02:43
SIR_Taco:)02:43
fenugreekSIR_Taco: =P02:43
wildgoosefenu did you read the page?02:44
fenugreek'may require a reboot' means someone who doesn't know wrote that02:44
KimLarouxactually, it says "Rebooting may be necessary."02:44
fenugreek'Rebooting may be necessary.' means someone who doesn't know wrote that02:45
KimLarouxlol02:45
KimLarouxand I suppose you know better =P02:45
fenugreekand it still wouldn't explain amarok not working02:45
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fenugreekgonna see what mplayer dvd:// does02:45
SIR_TacoOften it's easier to re-boot than to shutdown and restart all the dependant services02:46
fenugreekand then cdda://02:46
fenugreekfor what?02:46
fenugreekI've never rebooted for software installating short of kernel reconfiguring on Linux in my life02:46
fenugreekdon't tell me KDE makes you do that02:46
fenugreekokay now we're getting somewhere02:47
fenugreekno /dev/dvd02:47
SIR_Tacofenugreek: no, it's often kernel, driver, boot, and/or network related.... but still don't know what your problem is haha02:47
fenugreekwhat do I need to do to make it work with sr0?02:47
Linkmasterhow in the world do you use wine?02:48
fenugreekLinkmaster: to accomplish what?02:48
KimLarouxyou don't, it'S evil02:48
LINKSWORD2LMAO!02:48
LinkmasterI'd rather not use wine, but I need to install a game so that I can transfer the files over to my native linux installation02:49
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you type "wine something.exe"02:49
LinkmasterNWN02:49
Linkmasterah, thank you02:49
KimLarouxfenugreek, when you insert a disk... does dmesg comment about it?02:49
=== ache is now known as ordiPC
fenugreekLinkmaster: which files?  They should be on the install media, just mount -o loop02:49
LINKSWORD2:/02:49
fenugreekKimLaroux: everything works fine if I manually specify that my device is /dev/sr002:49
fenugreekit seems /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom are MIA02:49
LinkmasterI burned them to a disk, and used 'apt-get install wine' to put wine on my computer for the first tiem02:49
LINKSWORD2You don't use WINE, you drink wine. :)02:49
LINKSWORD2Hehe.02:50
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: your "windows" system is under .wine/drive_c/ in your home directory02:50
KimLarouxfenugreek, in amarok? I didn't even know there was a place in Amarok to specify a directory... it's all autodetect usually02:50
LinkmasterYeah, I figured that out02:50
fenugreekKimLaroux: no, usually it says "hey /dev/cdrom, where is the device?"02:50
fenugreekbut I don't have /dev/cdrom, it seems02:50
fenugreekokay I do have it, but it's not working02:50
fenugreekno /dev/dvd at all, though, dvd102:51
fenugreekokay, looks like I have /dev/cdrom1 and /dev/dvd1 instead of sane names02:51
SIR_Tacoargh, rebooting again... everyone figure out their problems before I get back :)02:52
fenugreekhaven't used a computer with more than one optical drive in ages02:52
fenugreekI s'pose that's the root of the problem02:52
KimLarouxmight not help02:52
KimLarouxbut I don't see how that can prevent Amarok/KDE from auto-detecting disks02:53
* fenugreek shrugs02:53
fenugreekit is02:53
fenugreekand I'm betting if I had an ordinary /dev/cdrom and dvd they'd be happy as clams02:53
fenugreek(which are of course very happy creatures)02:54
KimLarouxI'm betting that if you reboot it'll be working XD02:54
fenugreekalready rebooted02:54
KimLarouxreally? oh, ok02:54
fenugreek...for a kernel upgrade =P02:54
KimLarouxGah!02:54
SIR_TacoI thought everything was going to be fine..... after I rebooted?02:55
LINKSWORD2lol02:55
fenugreekguess I'll check the BIOS for insanity02:57
SIR_TacoStill.... no one has explained to me what's going on... so I can be lazy I guess :)02:57
fenugreekthanks, brb =P02:57
KimLarouxabout time02:57
dineshnn_how to activate the firewall in kubuntu 11.0402:58
SIR_Tacodineshnn_: a firewall is already active... if you want to tweak it, there are programs to do that02:58
KimLarouxthere is? I always wondered if there was one02:59
dineshnn_how to find that it is activated or not?02:59
dineshnn_SIR_Taco can you guide me02:59
wildgoosedineshnn_, If you want simple try gufw03:01
dineshnn_wildgoose: can you guide me how to do that03:01
dineshnn_i am new to kubuntu03:02
wildgoosedineshnn_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw03:02
SIR_Tacofwbuilder is good03:02
SIR_TacoKimLaroux: there's a basic firewall via iptables that is installed by default03:04
KimLarouxSIR_Taco, thanks, I looked it up already =P03:04
SIR_TacoKimLaroux: haha ok03:04
LinkmasterHow do you mount a CD that doesn't want to be mounted? Should I simply loop the mount in the .wine folder to make the WINE installer think the CD is there?03:04
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: an actual CD, or an image of a cd (.iso etc.)?03:05
LinkmasterI popped the next CD into the CD tray, and nothing comes up03:05
LINKSWORD2Most likely an image.03:05
LINKSWORD2Oh... :/03:06
LinkmasterI can use an image as well though, since I have access to them03:06
KimLarouxdineshnn_, lookup "firewall" in KPackageKit, there's a few apps to edit the iptable firewall. KMyFirewall seems to be ok03:06
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: so the wine program is saying "insert disc two" ?03:06
Linkmasteryep03:06
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: and now nothing will mount. Dics 1 won't mount either, so I know theres a problem somewhere03:07
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you need to unmount the current CD at the current mount point.... and then mout the next CD (CD2) at the same mount point....03:07
SIR_Tacoif that makes sense03:07
LinkmasterSo ejecting the CD didn't unmount it?03:07
Linkmasterthough I can figure it out, I have a rough idea of what you mean03:08
SIR_Taconot necessarily03:08
Linkmasterwell, its not in media...03:08
LinkmasterHow should I mount it, and unmount the other?03:09
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: does it show up under /media?03:11
Linkmasternope03:11
LINKSWORD2Oy... What a night.03:11
LinkmasterI know ):03:12
dineshnnthanks friends GUFW has worked for firewall03:12
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: /dev/sr0 should be your CD/DVD drive...03:13
SIR_Tacodineshnn: glad to hear03:13
Linkmasterit doesn't show up with fdisk -l03:13
dineshnnguide me for connecting two computers. one is connected by lan cable and one is connected by wifi router........this is for file sharing03:13
SIR_Taco Linkmaster: it wont... it's not a hard drive03:14
Linkmasterhow can I find it then?03:14
LinkmasterShould I just use the .iso files I have on my harddisk?03:16
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: well...  you either have one of the two, which is one an the same normally... ls -la /dev/scd* or ls -la /dev/scr*03:16
Linkmasterlet me try that03:16
szal/dev/sr*03:17
SIR_Tacoszal: yes, thanks03:17
LinkmasterI got two outputs, you wish to see?03:17
SIR_Tacosure03:17
Linkmasterjoshua@Isadora:/media$ ls -la /dev/scd*03:17
Linkmasterlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2011-06-25 22:01 /dev/scd0 -> sr003:17
Linkmasterjoshua@Isadora:/media$ ls -la /dev/sr*03:17
Linkmasterbrw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2011-06-25 22:01 /dev/sr003:17
FloodBotK1Linkmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:17
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: ok. so, scd0 points to sr0, which is all fine and dandy...03:18
LinkmasterThats good I assume03:19
Linkmaster*?03:19
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: yep that's good. So you have two options... you can play around with Wine settings, or you can manually mount and unmount CDs for installation03:20
Linkmasterwhich results in a permanent fix?03:20
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: it's only for installation, after that there's nothing to do03:20
LinkmasterI figured...I think it'd be best to mount/unmount the CD's03:21
SIR_Tacomight need to get a "no-cd" patch, but can't remember03:21
LinkmasterI have one....:P03:22
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: ok... so you can "sudo mkdir /mnt/nwn/; mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/nwn/"03:22
* Linkmaster is happy since he already has the /mnt/nwn directory :D03:22
SIR_Taco... sudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/nwn/03:22
SIR_TacoI meant03:23
Linkmasterlet me do that03:23
LinkmasterI mounted it..03:24
fenugreekokay, fixed dvd1 to dvd with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules03:25
Linkmasterit isn't showing up dolphin though, and I can't get the installation to continue03:25
fenugreekchanged cdrom1 to cdrom, too, but amarok is still not opening audio CDs03:25
SIR_Tacook.... now you should be able to go on the cd "cd /mnt/nwn/" then "wine setup.exe" or whatever the install program is03:25
LinkmasterBut the installation is already going...03:26
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: well you'll have to start it again I'm afraid03:26
LinkmasterThat makes no sense03:26
LinkmasterHrm03:26
LinkmasterI'd need to put the first disk back in to start the installation, and then I'll be back at square one03:27
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: do you know where the first disc is mounted? /media perhaps?03:28
LinkmasterIt was mounted in /media..perhaps I should have manually mounted that03:28
SIR_Tacowhere in media?03:28
Linkmaster/media/lots_of_numbers03:29
LinkmasterI'm going to cancel the installation, and see what happens if I mount the first cd to /mnt/nwn03:30
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: ok.... so you can do "umount /media/lots_of_numbers" then eject the CD, then "sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/lots_of_numbers"03:30
LinkmasterIt was no longer mounted when I pulled the other cd out03:31
LinkmasterI think the installation got hung on a mountless point03:31
SIR_Tacolikely03:31
Linkmasterlet me force it to start at /mnt/nwn which is part of the computer, not created when new media comes up, and see what happens03:32
Muhammad-Tahirhi03:32
sfearshello Muhammad-Tahir03:32
Muhammad-Tahiri have a problem anybody help me :'(03:32
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you could do /media/nwn/  doesn't really matter so long as you remember where03:33
Muhammad-Tahiri treid to update my kubuntu and some unkown error occurd03:33
LinkmasterI'm having difficulties...it says it can't be unmounted because 'the device is busy' its not even in the cd-tray >:l03:33
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: do you still haave a window open in Dolpin?03:34
Linkmasternope, tis closed03:34
LinkmasterI'm just going to smite /nwn and start over03:34
SIR_Tacono knosole and/or console?03:34
Muhammad-Tahirnow my os does not starts i m having difficullties03:34
Linkmasterlet me exit both of my konsoles real fast before I start smiting things..03:35
Muhammad-Tahiris there any way with which i can remove some of the updates and re-install them ?03:35
Linkmasterthat worked03:35
* Linkmaster is glad he didn't go on a smiting rampage03:35
SIR_Tacohaha03:36
Muhammad-TahirSir can u help me ?03:36
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: how did you update  your OS?03:37
Muhammad-Tahirthrough system and update manager i dailly check for updates03:38
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: and now you can't boot into Kubuntu?03:39
Muhammad-Tahirsorry i m new to linux its xubuntu03:39
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: don't be sorry03:39
Muhammad-Tahiri m running it in the beggining it said files missing r errors03:40
Muhammad-Tahirbut i just kept restarting it and now its running]03:40
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: ok, so it is running (currently)?03:40
Muhammad-Tahiryes but it is saying A peroblem occured when checking for updates03:41
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: can you cut and paste the errors to http://paste.kde.org/03:42
Muhammad-Tahirhow can i copy the errors its running smoothly now :(03:42
SIR_Tacook, so everything is fine now then?03:43
* SIR_Taco doesn't know why he has gray hair :P03:44
* Linkmaster chuckles03:44
Muhammad-Tahiri cant have updates that is the problem03:45
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: ok, so you get errors when you try to update?03:45
Muhammad-Tahirno03:45
SIR_Tacothen what's the problem?03:46
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: before I do anythign that would cause epic problems, the installation is now asking for CD2. My problem is, I tried 'sudo umount /mnt/nwn' and its complaining about being busy. and I don't want to spit the CD out and cause issues. Unless it won't cause issues03:47
Muhammad-Tahirthere are no updates to install03:47
Muhammad-Tahirbut it ll keep saying that i had this problem earlier :(03:47
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: you need to un-mount the first CD before you can mount the second in the same place....03:48
LinkmasterI know that03:48
LinkmasterIt was complaining of being busy when I tried 'sudo umount /mnt/nwn'03:48
Linkmasternot mount, umount03:48
Linkmastercan I just hit the disk drive and everything be good?03:49
Muhammad-Tahironce i had this problem with fedora but than i simple removed the last updates and re downloaded and the problem was solved03:49
LINKSWORD2lol03:49
LINKSWORD2Linkmaster: Some games just aren't meant to be used on Linux. lol03:50
LinkmasterLINKSWORD2: I shall prevail! especially since this game was made for Linux03:50
LINKSWORD2Just download the Linux version, then.03:50
SIR_TacoLINKSWORD2: I know I have had NWN working on linux03:50
fenugreekhow does one replace dragon player and amarok with VLC?03:50
LINKSWORD2fenugreek: Amarok and Dragon stay on the system.03:51
Muhammad-Tahircan any one tell me how to un-install anything from xubuntu ?03:51
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: I still don't fully understand   your problem.... an I would assume others don't either or they would have helped03:51
LINKSWORD2I have VLC installed on my system also and can choose what files / when to use VLC.03:51
LinkmasterLINKSWORD2: I exhausted my resources trying to find a linux version. supposedly you need the windows installation to get it to work in linux[I never figured that out]03:52
Muhammad-TahirSIR_TACO my problem is my os doesnot find updates anymore.03:52
fenugreekwell, that'd be silly but I'd be happy if VLC were the default for DVDs and CDs03:52
fenugreekanybody know how to make that happen?03:52
Muhammad-Tahirwhenever i ll try it ll say there are no updates03:52
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: try manually mounting it to a directory you know... and then unmoutn and remount the new CD... if it gives you an option to "browse" for the CD, then you cuold mount it wherever you want03:53
LinkmasterI just took it out..hopefully nothing bad will happen03:54
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: through the console? or through a program?03:54
Muhammad-TahirPrograme03:54
lemonsI have a separate harddrive formatted as ext4 that I want to store all of my documents on, but I want a shortcut to it in my home directory. What's the best way to go about making the shortcut for that?03:54
Linkmasterthats wierd.....I popped in the new one, and it came up via the USB thing saying 'nwn installer disk 2'03:55
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: how about trying "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a console?03:55
fenugreekLINKSWORD2: and yet I've just removed them03:55
Muhammad-Tahirlet me try03:55
Muhammad-Tahirsudo apt-get update i tried this03:56
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: yes?03:57
Muhammad-Tahirit says done..03:57
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: now "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:57
SIR_Tacowithout the "03:57
LINKSWORD2I'm not sure we're on the same page here, fenugreek03:57
Muhammad-Tahir0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:58
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: ok... so were is the problem? what are you trying to do?03:58
Muhammad-Tahirfor the last 2 weeks there is no update :(03:59
Muhammad-Tahirthis is not possible this is the problem03:59
Muhammad-Tahirand my os is having difficulties in starting up03:59
fenugreekanybody know how to add VLC to device notifier settings for audio CDs and DVDs?04:00
KimLarouxGood question, I'd like to do that too ^04:01
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: you're on 11.04?04:01
SIR_TacoThe only things you will get for updates are security fixes04:01
Muhammad-Tahirhow can we remove last updates so that we can re-install them ?04:01
Muhammad-Tahiryes i m04:01
Muhammad-Tahiri ll come back later04:02
LINKSWORD2Well, I've gotta drop off. See ya'll.04:03
KimLarouxfenugreek, I found it, but you have to manually add it... go to System Settings > Advanced > Device Actions04:03
SIR_Tacoyea ok, everyone abandon ship :P04:04
fenugreekKimLaroux: I'm afraid that's a far cry from making it work04:04
KimLarouxfenugreek, maybe, but I'm already working on making it work here =P04:04
fenugreekI tried to copy the settings in Amarok's device notification entry for audio CDs, for example, and the second to last dropdown didn't even ALLOW ME to choose the same value04:05
KimLarouxI bet there's how-tos on the internet explaining the procedure04:05
fenugreekKimLaroux: yes there probably are, but I haven't found one in several hours of searching04:06
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: I'm going to try and use the .iso files04:07
SIR_Tacofenugreek: trying to get CDs to play in Amarok?04:07
KimLarouxfenugreek, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=8469404:07
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: ok04:07
KimLarouxI'm trying it, see if it works04:07
fenugreekSIR_Taco: no I gave up on that, I'm trying to use VLC for default player of DVDs and audio CDs04:07
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: even with the .iso, I get the "device is busy" line04:08
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: when trying to unmount it?04:08
Linkmasteryep04:08
Linkmasterjoshua@Isadora:/mnt/nwn$ sudo umount /mnt/nwn04:09
Linkmaster[sudo] password for joshua:04:09
Linkmasterumount: /mnt/nwn: device is busy.04:09
Linkmaster        (In some cases useful info about processes that use04:09
Linkmaster         the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))04:09
FloodBotK1Linkmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:09
fenugreekI don't even have that directory04:10
SIR_TacoI can't remember, but does NWN giv eyou and option for "Browse" or anything to 'find' the other CD?04:10
Linkmasteryeah, it allows me to browse, which I tried at one point, and it just gave me the prompt asking for another CD, though I'll try again..04:12
KimLarouxcrap, fenugreek, I can't test it since my cd player isn't working well... the auto-mount doesn't work04:13
SIR_Tacook.... when you unmount the first cd... mount the other to "/media/nwn2/"04:13
fenugreekKimLaroux: can't test what =P04:13
SIR_Tacothen browse to it04:13
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: thats the problem, its not letting me in any way shape or form unmount the first CD04:13
KimLarouxfenugreek, the device action on DVD insert04:14
fenugreekhow04:14
Linkmasterthough I'm about to mount the cd2.iso onto /mnt/nwn104:14
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: well then screw the first cd... just put the second cd in, close the tray and mount  it to another place (like /media/nwn2/)04:14
LinkmasterI just did that04:14
Linkmasterlets see if it allows me to change04:15
Linkmasterahaha, finally!04:15
SIR_Tacowork?04:15
Linkmasterthe .isos work better then the CD's apparently04:15
LinkmasterIts starting the second stage of installing04:15
LinkmasterI'll make a /mnt/nwn2, finish the installation, and then close everything, unmount it all, delete it all, and I'll have figured it out with your help04:16
SIR_Tacoand now you have lots of Bioware fun ahead of you :)04:17
LinkmasterIt installed, it installe04:20
Linkmaster*installed04:20
LinkmasterNow....to follow the readme.txt that was located inside of the .tar.gz file that I was attempting to follow along..04:21
SIR_Tacohaha ok04:22
Linkmasterwhats the best way to copy a file/folder and all its contents? -R?04:25
Linkmastercp -R blahblah04:25
Linkmasterand also, to copy multiple files at once04:25
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: ping04:28
* Linkmaster goes off to the search engines and hopes they can understand his strangeness04:30
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: copy a directory and it's contents?04:31
LinkmasterI was right!04:31
SIR_Tacoyou were right04:31
* Linkmaster is joyeous that his gut instincts are starting to prove correct04:31
Linkmasterbash is fairly predictable once you start to figure it out04:31
SIR_Tacoexactly04:31
LinkmasterThough, is it possible to copy multiple things at once?04:32
SIR_Tacothere's many ways to copy many things at once04:32
Linkmastersay, in ~/example we have ex1 ex2 and ex3 and want to copy them to ~/other-example04:32
Linkmasterwell, I know of rysnc and dd and stuff, I meant with the simple cp command04:33
SIR_Tacoyou can do cp *.blah, or cp f?le.blah... prett much the same as old DOS, but you can do regulaar expression stuff too... if you really want to get into it04:34
Linkmasterheres an example of what I want to do04:35
Linkmaster'sudo cp ambient data music other-stuff /usr/local/games/nwn04:35
Linkmasterdoes that work, or no? It has a sudo attached to the front, which is why I don't want to test it04:36
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: should there be "/" in there?04:37
LinkmasterI'm starting from the directory I'm going to copy from, and I have all the '/' in the correct places04:38
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: then do what you did before.... cp -R ambient ~/.wine/drive_c/Bioware/etc.04:39
Linkmasteralright, just making sure I was right04:39
Linkmasterand I'm actually copying FROM the installation to a new folder :P04:39
fenugreeklooks like I needed /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/vlc-opendvd.desktop, -opencda.desktop, etc. (gosh why didn't I think of that!)04:41
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: as long as it's working... lol04:43
Linkmasteryep yep. Let me do that04:43
Wolf_22I'm using the Kubuntu 11 Alternative for a really old machine and since the thing could handle XP, I assumed it could handle this. Well, something's wrong with it (can't get past log-on prompt; keeps looping to login) and was wondering if there's a "Kubuntu Safemode" I could use to diagnose this issue?04:47
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: doesn't that sound like a .kde issue? permissions gone wonky?04:48
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: no, that sounds like an update gone wonky and needing to go through safe-mode boot in grub....04:49
Linkmasterwell, he said looping login, and I've heard that is a permission issue from the kde stuff..04:49
Wolf_22How would I get to Grub?04:50
Linkmasterpress and hold the shift key the moment the BIOS flashes past04:50
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: it's more likely a video driver problem.... but I could be wrong04:50
Linkmasterwe can always hope its a permission error..04:50
LinkmasterWolf_22: do you have any nvidia or ati cards?04:51
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: see.... you're learning :)04:51
LinkmasterWhat did I learn this time? o:04:51
Wolf_22Linkmaster: I'm almost embarrassed to admit that the card is an old Voodoo...04:52
Wolf_22(Told ya it's old. ;) )04:52
LinkmasterDon't be embarrassed, its probably still better then my netbook's card :P04:52
LinkmasterBut can you get to kdm? the login thing04:52
SIR_Tacooooh, Voodoo's... I spent a lot of money on a few of those04:52
Wolf_22So the Recovery Menu is up... Should I go with the failsafeX...? Note: There's no internet with this box...04:53
SIR_Tacoseem to remember spending a lot of money on a Matrox Mystique to go with it haha04:53
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SIR_TacoWolf_22: no internet? how did  you update it and/or mess it up?04:54
Wolf_22Sir_Taco: I burnt the ISO of that Alternative to a disc and ran the install...04:54
SIR_TacoWolf_22: but you had a stable system before that? or this is a new install?04:54
Wolf_22Sir_Taco: Before all this, it was running XP fine. Of course, Microsoft decided to hose my key to that legit copy, and being fed up with them, I decided to pursue Linux...04:55
Linkmastersmart choice ^04:56
SIR_TacoWolf_22: ok, so new install. It's a desktop or a laptop?04:56
Wolf_22Sir_Taco: It's an old desktop.04:57
Wolf_22Had 8 running okay on it. Went through hell using the ndiswrapper to get my Wifi adapter to work but when I finally did, I tried upgrading to 9. That's when the Wifi went down.04:57
SIR_TacoWolf_22: ok, so you're on 9.X? or 10.X? or 11.X? And do you have any idea what network caard   you have (Voodoo cards have been supported for over a decade in the kernel)04:59
Wolf_22SIR_Taco: 11.x Alternative. http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/natty/ (See the bottom.)04:59
Wolf_22And it'04:59
Wolf_22And it's a Wifi Adapter USB by Belkin.05:00
* Linkmaster suggest possibly using 10.04, due to its more mature age05:01
iliashi all. i just installed vlc but i dont find in my program menu. any idea?05:01
SIR_Tacoilias: wait 5 mins05:02
Wolf_22Linkmaster: I might do that. So you suspect insecure / buggy code in the overall kernal?05:02
LinkmasterWell, you're using an older system, so I'm thinking if you grab an older kernel, and a more supported OS, you might hopefully have better luck05:02
SIR_Taco Wolf_22: but you're connecting to the internet?05:03
Wolf_22The biggest reason I got this new version was in hope of it having already the drivers I needed for the Wifi adapter...05:03
iliaswait and then do what. it will be seemed automatically?05:03
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Wolf_22SIR_Taco: Yes, using a laptop. :) Not with the older computer... I was last night using 8.05, but after I upgraded it to 9, I began having problems and it made me frustrated so I went ahead and shouted broken  arrow: Got a hold of the 11 and still no go.05:04
SIR_Tacoilias: now check under kmenu->multimedia->vlc05:04
yulebern__hi all i wanted to build kde 4.7 beta on my machine just wanted to know if it can be run alongside the stable version05:04
SIR_TacoWolf_22: USB wireless cards are hit and miss... they, often, run off software which venders don't want to give out05:06
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LinkmasterSIR_Taco: outdated topic, but look at what I just found: http://robotbutler.org/article/1305:07
Wolf_22SIR_Taco: So I've learned. This thing has been a pain for that USB adapter I'm trying to get to run. I got it to work with version 8 using that ndiswrapper, but not with any other version. I'm going to go grab 10 and see what happens.05:07
SIR_TacoWolf_22: worth a shot I guess05:08
iliasstill nothing05:09
SIR_Tacoilias: how exactly did you install VLC?05:10
iliassudo apt-get install vlc05:11
SIR_Tacoilias: that's odd... but  you can still run it manually?05:15
iliasyes i run it manually05:16
iliasbut i want it in my menu too05:17
SIR_Tacoilias: have you restarted KDE and/or   your computer?05:18
iliasno. do i need to log out or restart it? i think is not mandatory05:19
SIR_Tacologout, restarting is not mandatory05:21
lemonsi have an ssd that is my primary drive that i boot windows off of, but it doesn't have enough space for ubuntu. is it possible for me to keep the ssd as my main drive with the bootloader and then have ubuntu installed on a separate hdd?05:21
iliasok, i am going to do it right now and i am coming back with the result05:21
* SIR_Taco braces himself05:22
iliasSIR_Taco: bingo! everything is ok now. thanks.05:24
SIR_Tacoilias: excellent, good to hear :)05:25
iliasand the more important. i can play audio cd that i couldnt with kaffeine, either dragon, either amarock!05:26
SIR_Tacoilias: even better05:27
iliasthat's right. thaks again.05:28
SIR_Tacoyou're welcome05:29
SIR_TacoI'm quite impressed with the current Nouveau drivers05:32
SIR_Tacooff topic... and goes back to an hour or so ago lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkgV5bl7kQ05:38
tylerHEY05:46
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Guest2895Hey Kubuntu users.05:47
Graf_WesterholtHi, Guest2895.05:47
SIR_Tacohi Guest289505:47
Guest2895I just installed Kubuntu after getting to know Ubuntu pretty well.05:48
Guest2895I'm so confused.05:48
SIR_TacoGuest2895: ok, what's got you confused?05:48
Guest2895I need to change the default theme to a tar.gz file I have in my documents, How should I go about doing that?05:49
SIR_TacoGuest2895: wheat are you trying to accomplish?05:56
Guest2895I just really dislike this default GUI.05:56
SIR_TacoGuest2895: KDE?05:57
Guest2895Not KDE, just the default KDE theme.05:58
Guest2895If that makes any sense.05:58
Guest2895Basically I need to change the default theme to a TAR.GZ file I have in my documents.05:58
SIR_Taco Guest2895: why the hell do  you need to compress the default themee to a tar.gz file?05:59
Graf_WesterholtSIR_Taco, I think me means the opposite.06:00
Graf_Westerholt*he06:00
Graf_WesterholtHe has a file with a design and whant to set it active.06:01
Guest2895No, I don't like the default theme, It's horrible.06:01
Graf_Westerholt*wants06:01
Guest2895I need to change it to a different theme.06:01
Guest2895which just so happens to be a tar.gz file.06:01
SIR_TacoGraf_Westerholt: ah ok, that maakes more sense06:01
Guest2895Yeah, what Graf said.06:02
Graf_WesterholtGuest2895, maybe you have to decompress the tar.gz-file Where did you get the file, Guest2895?06:02
Guest2895I got it here06:03
Guest2895http://fedora-art.org/content/show.php/Gaia+Nova?content=75930&PHPSESSID=34127d87b365aa6cb2be6d8d0a5a369606:03
Graf_WesterholtGuest2895, I am sure this is for Gnome. fedora uses Gnome.06:04
SIR_Tacoyea that's not a KDE theme06:05
Guest2895All this time i thought it was.06:05
Guest2895looks like it's time to go install GTK.06:05
Graf_WesterholtGuest2895, type ALT+F2, type in „theme“ and hit enter.06:06
SIR_TacoGuest2895: good luck with that :)06:06
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: it's well past your bed time06:06
LinkmasterI care not :P06:07
LinkmasterX died on me randomely06:07
SIR_Tacome neither lol06:07
LinkmasterThird or so time its happened now06:07
psychodo u wanna install kde on ur system?06:07
psychojust use sudo apt-get install plasma-desktio06:07
psycho*desktop06:07
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: I only bug you because I know you're in the same timezone as me :P06:09
LinkmasterWe should also bug Unit193 since he is as well06:09
* Unit193 is sleeping06:09
Linkmasterlies06:09
Unit193Wait... Awww dang it!06:09
SIR_Tacosee... Unit 193 is sensible lol06:09
BluesKajpsycho, kubunru-desktop06:10
LinkmasterUnit193: is amongst the least sensible of us :D06:10
BluesKajerr kubuntu-desktop06:10
Unit193I would kinda have to agree on that one...06:10
SIR_Tacooh, you have no idea.... lol06:10
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: Unit193 here gave me +o on specific channel..you know how I like to catch peoples computers on fire...you sure he's sensible now? xD06:12
* Linkmaster rages because his CD-key is supposedly invalid06:13
SIR_TacoLinkmaster: I'm sure he was sensible before he met you... lol06:13
LinkmasterEh, quite likely06:13
Graf_Westerholt!offtopic06:14
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:14
SIR_TacoGraf_Westerholt: true06:14
anonboo!backtrack06:14
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition06:14
anonboothanks ubottu and yes I know you're a bot06:15
SIR_Taco !ubottu !offtopic06:16
Unit193SIR_Taco: #kubuntu-offtopic06:16
SIR_Tacodidn't like that one :)06:16
anonbooheheh06:16
SIR_Tacowell it's no fun if you respond Unit19306:17
LinkmasterSIR_Taco: #kubuntu-offtopic06:17
Unit193SIR_Taco: Maybe I'm a smart bot06:17
anonboodoubtfull06:17
SIR_TacoUnit193: or maybe you're a second session of Linkmaster :P06:18
LinkmasterHey, I know how to create sen...*cough* I mean, well trained bots06:18
SIR_Taco;)06:19
Muhammad-Tahirhi Sir_TACO06:31
Muhammad-Tahiru  there ?06:31
SIR_Tacomore or less06:31
Muhammad-Tahirhow can i remove anything ?06:33
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: remove what? I program?06:33
SIR_TacoA program I mean06:34
Muhammad-Tahiryes06:34
Muhammad-Tahiri want to uninstall some updates which i doubt r not installed correctlly06:35
SIR_Tacoyou can do it from the command line: "sudo do apt-get reemove package" where 'package' is the  program you waant to remove06:37
SIR_Tacoremove,, not reemove06:37
Muhammad-Tahirhmmm is not there any way like in xp uninstall ?06:39
ovidiushi. i have a problem with the task manager plasmoid. i want the firefox icon to appear there, if firefox is not running, but it only shows an empty spot (that works well, but not icon)06:39
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: yes, you can go through the Kpackagekit.... it will show what is ann isn't installed06:40
SIR_TacoI'm not goin to sleep am I? lol06:41
SIR_Tacoovidius: using the quick launch widget/plasmoid?06:42
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, you do not need to uninstall anything. Run „sudo apt-get check“ at the terminal.06:44
Muhammad-TahirReading state information... Done06:45
ovidiusSIR_Taco: you mean i should try the quicklaunch plasmoid instead? i you do, but i have some other frequently used programs in the task manager plasmoid as well. i idea is: i will alwas see the icon, either for starting it or switching to it, when it is running.06:45
Muhammad-TahirGraf my problem is. last time i installed the updates and my pc got stuck. after that i dnt have any new updates.06:46
ovidiusSIR_Taco: sorry for the weird language. i have a helpful 2 year old on my lap ;-)06:46
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, do not worry. It should be all fine.06:46
SIR_Tacoovidius: so you want something along the lines of Windows 7?06:46
Muhammad-Tahirand when my pc starts it says a problem occured when checking for the updates.06:46
Muhammad-Tahirnow after about 1 week i dnt have any updates ?06:47
ovidiusSIR_Taco: the basic idea was: my most frequent programs should be in the task list: either i can start the or switch to them06:47
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, run „sudo apt-get update“ and pastebin the output, please.06:47
ovidiusSIR_Taco: yes, an task manager has this functionality and it works great, but no icon for firefox :-(06:48
Muhammad-TahirGraf_Westerholt Reading package lists... Done06:48
SIR_Tacoovidius: that's very odd that it doessn't have the icon06:48
Graf_Westerholtok, Muhammad-Tahir, whait a moment, please.06:50
Graf_Westerholt-h06:50
Muhammad-TahirGraf_Westerholt i m using xubuntu because i hv an older machine dell precision  53006:50
Muhammad-Tahirok i m waiting.06:50
ovidiusSIR_Taco: is there any log file or something for plasmoids?06:51
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, try „sudo dpkg --configure -a“.06:52
Muhammad-Tahirsudo dpkg --configure -a i pasted this and it did not do anything06:53
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, that is ok.06:53
Muhammad-TahirGraf_Westerholt can u do me a favour ?06:54
SIR_Tacoovidius: not entirely sure to tell  you the  truth06:54
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, I cannot say untill I do not know what you want.06:55
Muhammad-Tahirsuggest me a lightweight linux distro06:56
Muhammad-Tahirexcept fedora i only have one common prob in almost all distro's06:56
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/index_de.html06:56
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: depends on how lightweight06:56
Graf_Westerholthttp://www.damnsmalllinux.org/06:57
Muhammad-TahirSIR_TACO i m on dell percision 530 1.70 ghz , 1 gb of ram06:57
Muhammad-Tahir34 gb hdd06:57
Muhammad-Tahirnow can u suggest me ?06:58
ovidiusSIR_Taco: thanks. I will report a bug, as it seems like one06:58
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: that should  run Kubuntu06:58
SIR_Tacoovidius: ok, sounds good06:58
Muhammad-Tahirwhat is the difference between x and xubuntu ?06:58
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: you mean the difference between the X and the K in Ubuntu?07:00
Muhammad-Tahirin xubuntu except this update prob i only faced one more problem whenever i play a video from my hdd the video and audio does not match07:00
Muhammad-TahirSIR_TACO yes07:00
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, Kubuntu ist with KDE, Xubuntu with XFC.07:02
Muhammad-Tahirhmmm07:03
Muhammad-Tahiri hv an old system which one i should use ?07:03
Muhammad-Tahirmy system slows down. with xp i dnt have any prob but i dnt want to steal anymore07:04
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: ubuntu is the base of all the *buntu's.... The difference is the UI when you log in...... so Ubutu haaas Gnome (by default), Kubuntu haas KDE, Xubuntu has XFE07:04
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, I would try KDE, Gnome or XFC. You can install all on ONE system. You do not have to install severel systemn.07:04
Graf_Westerholt!xfc07:04
Graf_Westerholt!xfc07:05
Graf_Westerholt!xfe07:05
Unit193!xfce07:05
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels07:05
Muhammad-Tahirany link ?07:05
Graf_Westerholtthx Unit193 :)07:05
Graf_Westerholt!kubuntu07:05
ubottukubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde07:05
Graf_Westerholt!kde07:05
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.07:05
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, that should help you. :)07:06
Unit193Ubuntu has Unity, not gnome. And don't forget about Lubuntu ;)07:06
Graf_WesterholtOh, I am out of date. :)07:06
Muhammad-TahirGraf_Westerholt yes but i m new to linux world07:06
Graf_Westerholt!lubuntu07:06
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.07:06
SIR_TacoUbuntu has both (at the moment)07:07
Muhammad-Tahirin one line u ll advise me to use which one of these ? by using which i can run my pc a bit faster ?07:07
SIR_TacoMuhammad-Tahir: I would suggesst KDE, but I'm sure ssomeone  can  prove me wrong :)07:09
Unit193The most lightweight I have used (And I've used them all but Unity) would have to be LXDE07:09
Graf_WesterholtXFCE should be faster than KDE or Gnome or Unity, but I suggest you just try them all.07:09
Graf_Westerholt!lxde07:10
SIR_TacoI'd go for TGTB'07:11
Graf_Westerholt!tgtb07:11
SIR_Tacothat's "Taco Go To Bed"07:11
Graf_WesterholtLOL07:11
Muhammad-TahirLOLX07:11
SIR_Taco;)07:11
Graf_WesterholtLet's teacht the Bot that!07:11
SIR_Tacolol... the bot shouldn't  know that lol07:12
Graf_Westerholt:)07:12
Muhammad-Tahiri m new to linux but i hv used many distros07:12
Muhammad-Tahir:-p07:12
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, so you have to learn a lot. :)07:12
Muhammad-Tahirno no tell the bot07:12
Muhammad-Tahiryes i ll learn with the time07:13
Muhammad-Tahirthx :)07:13
Graf_WesterholtMuhammad-Tahir, read, try and learn :)07:13
SIR_Tacoanyway, I need to go to bed.... teach the bot if you want haha07:13
Graf_WesterholtBye, SIR_Taco.07:13
Graf_Westerholtubottu, TGTB means „Taco goes to bed“.07:14
ubottuGraf_Westerholt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:14
SIR_Tacogood night/morning/day07:14
Graf_Westerholtubottu, TGTB means „Taco goes to bed“. You should know that.07:14
ubottuGraf_Westerholt: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:14
Graf_WesterholtSilly bot.07:14
Unit193s/means/is/07:15
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cerrie_hi all, anyone know how to lock a programm (Kopete) so it is not updated when you run an update?09:38
cerrie_cant see an option in the packahe manager09:39
cerrie_package*09:39
cerrie_hi all, anyone know how to lock a programm (Kopete) so it is not updated when you run an update?09:42
gorgonizercerrie_: I have never done this myself, but I think you need to use APT pinning, as described here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto09:43
cerrie_thank you will check it out..09:44
gorgonizerthere may be more up to date information out there, that was a quick google, but you are looking for apt pinning09:44
cerrie_seems the new kopete for 11.04 cannot find jasper runtime but 10.10 works fine, so dont want to update it till the bug is corrected :)09:45
gorgonizerwhich version of Kopete are you running?09:46
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gorgonizerand which version of KDE?  Are you on 4.6.4 or 4.6.3?09:46
cerrie_Version 1.0.80 works with no issues09:46
cerrie_KDE Development Platform 4.6.2 (4.6.209:47
gorgonizercerrie_:  If you are on Natty then add the PPA repo  ppa:kubuntu-ppa  and your Kopeteproblem should go away..09:48
cerrie_i have tried everything with new version with no luck, reverting to the old version is the only fix i have found09:50
gorgonizercerrie_: you have used the one in KDE SC 4.6.4?09:51
cerrie_worked :) echo kopete hold | dpkg --set-selections09:51
cerrie_i dont think do, just the one that comes with Kubunti 11.0409:52
cerrie_so*09:53
gorgonizercerrie_: is jasper used for Jabber connections?09:53
cerrie_jaspers is for webcam and audio....09:53
gorgonizercerrie_: ahh...  not the same issue I was thinkin gof, but glad the pinning worked..09:54
cerrie_seems the path to jasper is wrong in new kopete, there are numours bug reports for it09:54
cerrie_it worked fine.. thank you :)09:54
cerrie_been a while since i used linux, have to say i've missed.. its come a long way!09:55
cerrie_:O) sudo apt-get upgrade09:56
cerrie_Reading package lists... Done09:56
cerrie_Building dependency tree09:56
cerrie_Reading state information... Done09:56
cerrie_The following packages have been kept back:09:56
cerrie_  kopete09:56
FloodBotK1cerrie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:56
voicuis there any way to change the resolution list an app can choose from?10:39
voicuI only have 3520x1200 and 3200x1080 which are not really useful10:41
voicu(it's an nvidia dual monitor setup)10:41
voicuand obviously I don't want to use separate X screens so changing nvidia settings is not an option10:41
hendaushiya13:27
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dineshany networking experts13:42
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Quintasan!neon14:01
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon14:01
zubHi. Slightly OT, but anyway: it seems I have a ban on #ubuntu - and I have no idea why, is there some op/somone I could talk to?14:12
yofelzub: you want to ask that in #ubuntu-irc14:19
zubyofel: ah, ok, thanks14:21
pouncymtlionI have a suggestion for an area of interest that would add to the international consideration and appeal of the Ubuntu family of Linux...  language learning software.. not just computer languages.. but languages themselves..14:30
pouncymtlionkinda like Rosetta stone ..14:30
pouncymtlionbut have a linux set of language learning softwares to help in learning other countries' languages14:30
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pouncymtlionany thoughts?14:31
BluesKajHowdy14:53
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esmirlinhi folk! just a question, i want to buy a new computer, and i would like to know the best specifications for a perfect performing of kubuntu, like RAM, Graphic card... can anyone help me?15:39
BluesKaj!polls | esmirlin15:50
ubottuesmirlin: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:50
BluesKajesmirlin, graphics =nvidia , otherwise most new pcs will perform up to spec on ubuntu15:51
esmirlinaham, thanks!15:52
esmirlin;)15:52
BluesKajesmirlin, some of the higher end intel mulitcores are not recognized by the live cd , but most reasonably priced consumer pcs/laptops will be fine15:59
DavidiusIs there anyone here willing to help a non Kubuntu user, I have PinguyOS which is an Ubuntu based distro (nothing added but extra apps on the ISO)16:03
DavidiusIm getting an error Could not apply changes!16:03
DavidiusFix broken packages first.16:03
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Arthhi guys16:32
Guest77544hello16:36
BajKkubuntu doesnt release any kde pre-releases anymore?16:42
BluesKajhi16:42
BajKtehre was no 4.7 beta 1, beta 2, RC 1 -.-16:42
BluesKajBajK, no, they pulled it afaik...looked for it myself , no luck ...holding out til oneiric is officially released I think16:44
BluesKajeven the "O" late alpha is till on 4.6.316:45
BluesKajstill16:45
BajK:(16:45
BajKproject neon is nice but really not suitable for daily life16:45
cousin_mariohello16:45
BajKits great for testing but not working16:45
cousin_mariocan you recommend a decent qt-based serial terminal emulator?16:46
BajKand YES I always upgraded to the next kde major release when beta 2 or rc1 came out16:46
BajKwithout problems16:46
BajKI more and more start to hate Kubuntu16:46
BajKno more pre-release packages, policykit sucks, kpackagekit gets replaced by a usability FAIL package manger …16:46
BajKtranslations are still a mess16:47
BajKbut the worst thing: the alternatives are even worse :D16:47
BajKBluesKaj: over in the other channel they say they have too much to do and there have been a lot of changes but theyre working on it and oneiric has higher priority for 4.7 than natty of course17:03
BluesKajBajK, I appreciate your concern over apps like amarok etc, but I think "O" is going to have some positive changes , after all the next release after that is LTS and the builds better be solid before 12.04 is released17:09
pengperanybody out there?17:09
pengperah there17:09
BajKBluesKaj: amarok?17:09
BajKi didnt say anything bout amarok17:09
BajKI was ranting about the removal of kpackagekit17:10
BluesKajproject neon etc17:10
Tm_TBajK: this is not the channel to do ranting17:10
BajK17:10
BajKBluesKaj: dont understand what you're talking about17:10
BluesKajBajK, i'm quoting :  <BajK> project neon is nice but really not suitable for daily life17:12
BajKBluesKaj: aaaaand?17:12
BluesKajhey Tm_T ..how's things?17:13
BajKproject neon is nice for testing and stuff but the ppa beta packages are more suitable for intensive working and testing17:13
dinesh_hi i am using Kubuntu 11.04 and i have installed gimp.. but it is not working ..how to solve it17:14
Tm_Tdinesh_: how it isn't working?17:14
dinesh_Tm_T: i am seeing the icon.. when i click on that .. its not opening17:15
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* BluesKaj is confused http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/48217:16
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dinesh_i am using 64 bit kubuntu.. i need to install flash player .. but i am not getting for that vesion17:17
sobczykis there a way to not to set default gateway when using VPN i network manager? (I want to use my local internet connection)17:18
BluesKajdinesh_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?17:19
dinesh_nope17:20
dinesh_how to install it17:20
dinesh_i am new to this17:20
BluesKajopen a terminal , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , dinesh_17:21
BluesKaj!kubuntu-restricted-extras17:21
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:21
BluesKajBajK, I'm actually glad to see kpackagekit removed ..been using muon to search the repos for apps and I prefer it's layout17:23
BajKI dont like muon at all17:23
BajKbut fortunately (and I hope it stays) it is in the repisotiry17:23
BajKwith kubuntu 10.10  kpackgekit got a so nice layout and so good to use17:23
BajKeven my mom can use it17:23
BajKmuon is just so old technical17:23
BajKit reminds me more of kpackge from kde 3.x17:23
BluesKajheh, I still use synaptic as well17:25
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somekoolhi there18:40
somekoolI just tried installing kubuntu 11.04. the new GUI installer is nice. but it crashed when I click on the timezone map18:41
Wolf_22What's the normal procedure to install something in Kubuntu? Is it "make install"? I18:53
Wolf_22I'm trying to install ndiswrapper...18:53
Tm_T!ndiswrapper18:53
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:53
genii-aroundsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <packagename>18:53
Wolf_22k18:54
genii-around( is for all *buntu)18:54
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Wolf_22So I just tried to run "make" for ndiswrapper and it gave the following error: "34: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/build, is it configured?" Anyone have any clue what this means?19:23
genii-aroundI don't know why you're compiling it from source code, when there is a pre-made package available to install in the normal way with the package manager...19:25
Wolf_22genii-around: Does that require an internet connection?19:25
genii-aroundWolf_22: Usually, yes19:26
Wolf_22genii-around: I don't have an internet connection on this box I'm trying to install ndiswrapper to.19:27
genii-aroundWolf_22: There is also apt-offline which creates a list of stuff to download from another computer, you get stuff with that one, transfer it over with usb stick etc then install from that. The catch-22 of course is installing apt-offline without internet19:30
Wolf_22genii-around: Thanks for that tip. I was actually thinking about trying to scour Google for an ndiswrapper DEB file to use in hopes of using it to eliminate this make / dependency hazard. What do you think about this?19:32
genii-aroundWolf_22: Natty deb download: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/ndiswrapper-common/download19:32
Wolf_22genii-around: Would this work on Maverick?19:33
genii-aroundWolf_22: 1 sec I'll get that link19:33
genii-aroundWolf_22: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/ndiswrapper-common/download19:33
genii-aroundWolf_22: You can also go to the root site http://packages.ubuntu.com/  and search from there19:34
genii-aroundWolf_22: When you have a deb file to install, is: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb19:35
Wolf_22genii-around: You totally rock. I'm off to sneaker this over to the computer now. :) 1 more thing... Should I do the "sudo make uninstall" first?19:36
genii-aroundWolf_22: If it didn't successfully complete anyhow, probably not19:36
Wolf_22genii-around: The reason I ask this is because I ran that command the very first time and it removed the ndiswrapper.ko file from my fresh kubuntu install and it made me paranoid I might have made a mistake.19:37
genii-aroundWolf_22: If when you run the: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb   command it complains, you can force it to overwrite whatever files were from other packages or places with --force-overwrite19:39
Wolf_22genii-around: Okay. Well, let's see what happens with all this... *crosses fingers*19:39
genii-aroundWolf_22: I usually keep in my kit an USB to 10/100 network adapter for just such occasions, they come in very handy!19:42
Wolf_22genii-around: I see where you're coming from. This box I'm getting Kubuntu installed to has been very picky. I first had 8 on it, then upgraded to 9. After my ndiswrapper work with it, the upgrade broke it... So I got frustrated, wiped it with 11. That totally shot it down and I then decided to go back to 10. It installed flawlessly and now I just need to get the wifi working with my Belkin...19:45
Wolf_22...adapter using this ndiswrapper.19:45
Wolf_22genii-around: Looks like everything ran fine. :)19:52
genii-aroundCool19:52
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OerHeksthank you20:53
OerHekshaw do i pair an apple magic trackpad, the BT tool keeps asking me to enter a number, even when i give a manual pin 000020:54
OerHeksexample, in dutch http://picpaste.com/pics/bt-AFW5wgYP.1309118333.png20:59
genii-aroundOerHeks: There seems to be something about it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad#Pairing_the_Magic_Trackpad21:15
OerHekstrusted override..21:16
Lhyrraok, so.. I've had this issue before, still trying to resolve it.  On boot, I get shunted to busybox because "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg"  I remember that I needed to boot from liveCD, but even when I try that, I get the same "no init found" message, and get stuck in busybox.21:33
LhyrraI know there was a way to pause the liveCD boot, and still get it to load.  I know that I need to fsck my main disc, but being stupid, I never wrote down/archived the steps involved.21:34
* Lhyrra takes a number and waits...21:37
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* Lhyrra hums along with the waiting room muzak21:44
* Lhyrra goes to get a smoke, will re-ask in a bit?21:46
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Lhyrraok, so.. I've had this issue before, still trying to resolve it.  On boot, I get shunted to busybox because "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg"  I remember that I needed to boot from liveCD, but even when I try that, I get the same "no init found" message, and get stuck in busybox.22:00
LhyrraI know there was a way to pause the liveCD boot, and still get it to load.  I know that I need to fsck my main disc, but being stupid, I never wrote down/archived the steps involved.22:00
galatHello guys :]22:01
Lhyrraheya galat22:02
Lhyrrakinda quiet in here22:02
galatAny one can answer techie q? :]22:02
* Lhyrra points to her question ""Been waiting on a response for mine, unfortunately. Might be because it's a sunday""22:03
galatOk, Lhyrra, maybe I can help you, and maybe just maybe you'll be able to figure out my prob ? :]22:04
Lhyrrano promises ^_^22:04
galatWorth a try though :]22:04
Lhyrrayep.22:04
Lhyrraright now I'm trying to get the liveCD to be put on a flash-drive, gonna see if that bypasses the issue enough for me to force a proper fscking of my main disk22:05
galatI'm trying to get my kubuntu run setleds when it goes to init 5 (X's)22:05
galatHem, flashdisks under linux... tricky...22:05
galatI always had troubles with that.22:06
* Lhyrra blinks at your question...22:06
Lhyrraumm.. try that again, not in Greek? sorry... ^_^22:06
galatOkay :D22:06
galatLet's see...22:07
galatI'm trying to get my [numlock] light on22:07
Lhyrrasorry... not the MOST savy when it comes to programming.  I'm better with physical engineering.22:08
Lhyrraoh..22:08
galatto do that, I need to run setleds on22:08
Lhyrraumm.. you sure the wires are good? XD22:08
galatyeah22:08
Lhyrraok...22:08
galatI can do that by manually pressing the button22:08
Lhyrraie the NU22:08
galatstill, I would like to have it on by default22:09
LhyrraNUMLOCK one, right?22:09
Lhyrraah..22:09
galattogether with xdm bringing up22:09
galatright22:09
* Lhyrra sighs..22:09
Lhyrrasorry.. this is starting to go too deep for me... I haven't had the time, nor the inclination to dive THAT far into the coding of things.  Usually if a light doesn't go on, I either ignore it, or install a manuual switch to force it on...22:10
Lhyrrawish I could be more help.  If you need help re-wiring your house to get the lights on, I can walk you through that! ^_^22:10
galatAnyway, thank you for trying :]22:10
Lhyrrahehehe, was worth a shot.22:11
galatYeah, I would like that :)22:11
Lhyrraoh.. rewiring the house?22:11
galat(Honestly, I need to move my light switch together with all the wire-casing from one point of a wall to another :] )22:11
Lhyrrahehehe22:12
OerHeksLhyrra, start a live cd/usb, then your unmounted partitions, you can run fsck by following this command. sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 (only when the partition is sda1)22:12
Lhyrrathat's not too hard, the trickiest part is shifting the wires.22:12
galatI'm kinda left-handed, when it comes to wires, so... gonna be a challenge ;p22:12
LhyrraHeya DerHeks.  Problem is, I can't get my liveCD to boot, I get the damn "no init found" error there too22:13
LhyrraI remember there was something to do as the load-screen is up, some key combo to press that allowed me to get boot options.  Unfortunately, I don't know either the keys, or the option-string22:14
OerHeksleft shift for entering grub menu ?22:14
OerHeks( during boot)22:14
Lhyrratrying...22:15
Lhyrragot shunted to busybox again.22:15
LhyrraRebooting and trying again22:16
Unit193Lhyrra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDBootOptions and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions22:17
Lhyrraoh.. hello web-links22:18
Lhyrraand I got the grub.22:18
Lhyrraok... fun little error message that I'll pass on.. let me copy it to the paster22:18
OerHeks:-)22:19
galatBRB22:21
Lhyrraok...22:23
Lhyrrahttp://paste.kde.org/88381/22:23
Lhyrrathat's the fun little error that I get.22:23
Lhyrrarebooting to HDD...22:26
BluesKajLhyrra, did you run it in a tty ? or try a partition editor live cd like gparted to check the disk/partition for errors22:27
LhyrraSha-zaam! I am live.  Thanks, OerHeks!  now, to figure out why this is happening...22:27
* Lhyrra blinks22:27
OerHeksnice22:27
Lhyrraumm... tty?22:27
Lhyrrause dumb people speak when it comes to that stuff *laughs* mechanical engineer, not programmer.22:28
BluesKajnm, I shouldn't have suggested that :)22:28
Lhyrrahehe, it's ok.. the more I know, the better...22:28
Lhyrraso what is tty, and how would you go about using gparted?22:29
BluesKajLhyrra, on sewcond thought , that tty suggestion wouldn't have worked on an already mounted partition22:29
BluesKajtty is the nterminal without the graphical user interface X running.22:30
BluesKaj!tty22:30
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.22:30
Lhyrrahehehe I only have one partition, my main disk, everything else is usb/cd22:30
Lhyrrahuh...22:31
BluesKajok22:31
Lhyrrathough I probably should check my HDD for errors.. >_>22:31
BluesKajlive cd or live partitoner is the best method as OerHeks , suggested22:31
galatLhyrra: and possibly resize your / to get some space for a new partition :]22:32
galatBluesKaj: hey, mind a question? :]22:32
Lhyrrawith only 35gb of space, and me using almost all of it on a monthly basis, I don't have the space to partition off22:32
BluesKajgalat, ok ask away22:32
Lhyrrahis lights ain't working.. XD22:33
galatBluesKaj: ok, so here I am, trying to get my [numlock] light automatically on...22:33
galatBluesKaj: together with xdm startup22:33
galatBluesKaj: I'm thinking to get it on via setleds maybe22:34
galatthough I have no idea how to make it work22:34
BluesKajgalat, hang on..brb22:34
galatsure thing22:34
BluesKajgalat, are you on kubuntu? . If so , goto kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>input devices>keyboard , turn on number locks22:39
BluesKajand click apply22:41
galatThankk you :]22:41
BluesKajnp22:42
briandw1969is libdvdcss2 preloaded into Kubuntu 11?22:48
BluesKajbriandw1969, yes, if you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed22:51
briandw1969how do i determine that?22:51
briandw1969just reinstalled recently22:51
BluesKajopen a terminal and do, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras22:52
briandw1969fell free to msg me22:52
claydohhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Ubuntu 10.04 (i386, amd64), 10.10 and 11.04 (i386, amd64)22:52
claydoharg22:52
claydohhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=linkto%3A%22RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs%2222:53
claydohdoesn't mentio0n libdvdcss being included there22:53
claydohbut shows a way to install it22:54
BluesKajclaydoh, check the package manager by ntyping in libdvdcss2, see what results22:54
briandw1969extras installing now22:55
briandw1969wasnt in package manager22:55
claydohit is in medibuntu repos22:56
briandw1969and docs i found were for older Ubuntu22:56
claydohbut the link i had, the second, gives a quick command to install it22:56
BluesKajbriandw1969, no it doesn't show up in the package manager as libdvdcss2 , it will however show  kubuntu-restricted-extras. which contains it22:59
galatBye ppl :] Have a gnite :]23:02
BluesKajoops , I was mistaken briandw1969 , claydoh ...oh well never mind :)23:02
briandw1969k installed thru term23:02
briandw1969will it show in kpackage now?23:03
BluesKajbriandw1969, claydoh I always have the medibuntus repos in my sources.list so I never know exactly where libdvdcss is contained23:03
BluesKajbriandw1969, medibuntu ? if so just update & upgrade and it will install23:04
briandw1969will see if it works in a bit23:08
briandw1969Thanx all23:08
* BluesKaj vows to check app source details more closely in muon or synaptic , from now on23:21
LinkmasterBluesKaj: what happened?23:27
PhosphenesHi, how do I kill a running process. I tried doing ps -A | grep amarok and then kill 8202 (the job ID for amarok) but it's still running frozen.23:39
briandw1969hey Blues?23:51
briandw1969libdvdcss.co.2 is missing?23:51
briandw1969opps so.223:52
ZweiDreiMy flash player plays videos too fast.23:54

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