[00:00] <Linkmaster> galat:  I'm willing to bet that as the processes are terminated, one is being continued which has the window pop back up, then its subsequently terminated, causing the window to completely drop
[00:00] <szal> SIR_Taco: since installing Natty I ran an 'aptitude full-upgrade' once (which installs new recommends and dependencies etc.), otherwise I run 'aptitude upgrade', which is equivalent to 'aptitude safe-ugrade' and only updates existing pkgs
[00:00]  * Linkmaster enters god-mode
[00:00] <szal> s/existing/installed/
[00:00] <lcb> galat: i have a dream... oops, sorry, luther king come to my mind. again. i have a feeling that is an option on desktop effects is doing that
[00:01] <galat> I'm totally new to kubuntu, then I gathered - well, that might be quite normal and here I am asking dumb questions, but...
[00:01] <Linkmaster> The only dumb question is the question that goes unasked :D
[00:01] <lcb> galat: no dumb questions. dumb is not asking
[00:01] <SIR_Taco> szal: yes, which is really what dist-upgrade does...
[00:01] <Linkmaster> ^Great minds think alike
[00:01] <lcb> wow
[00:02] <galat> Linkmaster: hehe, okies, I'm going to remember this one... :]
[00:02] <Linkmaster> When I was new, gosh...I asked so many questions that with hindsight I'd be able to easily solve, and in fact have helped others solve as well. Its good to ask
[00:02] <szal> if I knew that I could completely remove it again, I'd install the nVidia 275 from nvidia.com to check
[00:03] <lcb> galat: do one thing. install Desktop Toggle Effects from widgets. then turn OFF and check if that symptom still persists
[00:03] <SIR_Taco> szal: are the nvidia modules working? lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:03] <galat> lcb: will do just that, thank you.
[00:03] <galat> BRB then
[00:03] <szal> SIR_Taco: no doubt about that, otherwise there wouldn't be an NVIDIA error in the log, would there?
[00:03] <lcb> galat: there are other ways of turning it off. but that one makes you have a switsh on your desktop or panel
[00:04] <SIR_Taco> szal: Yes, but humour me
[00:04] <Linkmaster> I've actually got a question..if I run LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 as root...would that cause permanent damage to my system?
[00:04] <Linkmaster> with an 'export' right before that
[00:05] <SIR_Taco> szal: I have no access to your computer, this is all blind, I can assume as much as I want, but you need to eliminate the obvious
[00:05] <szal> SIR_Taco: nvidia              10709116  40
[00:05] <lcb> Linkmaster: like a terminal kubuntu disease? sorry, i don't know unless i digg a bit on it.
[00:06] <galat> BK. Yup, that was that :]
[00:06] <SIR_Taco> szal: ok, what does "nvidia-settings --version" report for it's version number?
[00:06] <Linkmaster> I'm just thinking, since our kernel is what...2.6.38 or something?
[00:06] <galat> Thank you very much guys :]
[00:06] <szal> nvidia-settings:  version 270.29  (buildd@allspice)  Fri Feb 25 14:42:07 UTC 2011
[00:06] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: Mine's 3.0 :P
[00:06] <lcb> galat: so now, "check" your checked desktop effects and try to discover the one making that
[00:06] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: I want that >:l
[00:06] <szal> Linkmaster: yes, 2.6.38-8 on Natty
[00:07] <galat> lcb: yup, I am doing that now :]
[00:07] <lcb> :) glad Linkmaster helped
[00:07] <Linkmaster> How'd I help? :P
[00:07] <lcb> Linkmaster: staying near by
[00:07] <Linkmaster> Yep. Firecontrol is my duty
[00:07] <szal> I heard that 2.6.39 fixes a lot of graphics issues, so I wonder how far the kernel team got in backporting the fixes; it's been 2 months into Natty & not a kernel update yet
[00:07] <lcb> lol
[00:07] <SIR_Taco> szal: I may be on 11.10, but I think that's a low version number. No one else has an nVidia caard??
[00:08]  * Linkmaster has a system composed of entirely broadcom and Intel
[00:08] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: yes, I know you have the systems with a dash of the devil lol
[00:09] <Linkmaster> :D
[00:09] <Linkmaster> It sometimes works
[00:09] <lcb> time to sleep. 8 mts after midnight here. today is another one, different and better, i hope. nite nite guys & gals, Inc.
[00:09] <szal> lol
[00:09] <SIR_Taco> night lcb, sleep well
[00:11] <szal> SIR_Taco: bug 761575
[00:12] <szal> similar bugs reported for Arch Linux and Gentoo
[00:12] <Linkmaster> okay, 'export' doesn't last across boots so even if I bork my system it'll be fine on a reboot. The LD_ASSUME_KERNEL part means to set an environmental for configuring thingys....thats a really old kernel though :P
[00:13] <SIR_Taco> szal: well that seems to explain it
[00:14]  * Linkmaster goes off to find out to mount an .iso file on Linux
[00:14] <galat> Okay... checked: this would be "Fall apart" effect.
[00:15] <szal> Linkmaster: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso /path/to/mount/point/
[00:15] <Linkmaster> I just found that command, but thanks szal :D
[00:16] <SIR_Taco> szal: I think you're stuck.... you could try installing the 185 drivers
[00:18] <Linkmaster> I have gotten a confusing error..
[00:18] <Linkmaster> mount: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:19] <SIR_Taco> you don't really need the -t iso9660, unless you know that's the format of the CD
[00:20] <Linkmaster> I'm getting this error for every command I punch in, other then the cd
[00:20] <Linkmaster> I can't 'ls', for I get this:
[00:20] <Linkmaster> ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:20] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: do you have updates going on?
[00:20] <Linkmaster> Now I KNOW I borked something, but where and how is the question..
[00:21] <Linkmaster> Nope
[00:21] <Linkmaster> No downloads either
[00:21] <SIR_Taco> you can't do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[00:21] <Linkmaster> let me try that real fast, didn't think of that
[00:21] <Linkmaster> dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:22] <Linkmaster> I'm currently root, I don't know if that will cause a problem or not
[00:22] <SIR_Taco> not finding libc is a big problem
[00:22] <Linkmaster> I know that, which is why I'm wondering how I borked it. I haven't deleted anything
[00:22] <Linkmaster> and I'm afraid to restart now..
[00:23] <galat> are  you in CHROOT env by any chance?
[00:23]  * Linkmaster hurredly grabs his external hard drive while he still has a GUI
[00:23] <Linkmaster> I'm not sure, I'm currently in sudo su
[00:23] <Linkmaster> I can use commands as a normal user just fine
[00:24] <galat> try to log into another console to verify?
[00:24] <tsimpson> if you've somehow lost libc.so.6, you're in real trouble
[00:26] <Linkmaster> I knowww, and I haven't even done anything
[00:26]  * keithzg figures it's finally time to upgrade to 11.04 on his main PC
[00:26] <Linkmaster> normal user works just fine though
[00:26] <Linkmaster> and I can execute things as 'sudo' such as 'sudo apt-get update'
[00:27] <Linkmaster> and I can run kdesudo kate with no problems...this is a big problem
[00:27] <galat> maybe you did chown lic.so.6 to some normal user ;p
[00:27] <Linkmaster> but root overturns everything
[00:27] <szal> Linkmaster: then it's the su thing; 'su' doesn't change environment variables; use 'su -' instead
[00:28] <Linkmaster> Its like...the Ace card in the game of spades
[00:28] <Linkmaster> Care to explain that szal?
[00:28] <tsimpson> su should not make libc disappear
[00:28] <BondMan> everytime i try to install anything i get the same error, can someone take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/etL9X0z6
[00:28] <Linkmaster> I left su, did those tests, and went back in and I can now use regular commands
[00:29] <szal> Linkmaster: if you 'su' to another user, all commands are executed assuming your environment variables; if you 'su -' to another user, commands are executed with the other user's environment variables
[00:29] <SIR_Taco> "sudo apt-get instlal libc-bin"
[00:30] <SIR_Taco> install even
[00:30] <Linkmaster> Its the newest version
[00:30] <szal> Linkmaster: just try it -> 'exit', then 'sudo su - username'
[00:30] <Linkmaster> okay
[00:31] <Linkmaster> nothing happened...I'm still at a regular user prompt
[00:31] <szal> Linkmaster: the question is, does it still report missing libraries?
[00:31] <tsimpson> it needs to be a different user
[00:32] <szal> yes, of course, everything else wouldn't make sense, even without the dash
[00:32] <galat> heh, I really missed those English locales :]
[00:32] <Linkmaster> I believe it freaked when I punched in 'export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
[00:32] <tsimpson> well don't do that...
[00:32] <szal> !nvidia
[00:32] <sysop3> there is a feature I need to turn off in kde but I dont know the name of it. can someone help me? the feature is when you drag a window  just past the top of the screen this border appears around the edge of the screen and if you drop the window while the border is in place the window is full screened.
[00:32] <Linkmaster> I'm trying to install a game, and thats what the intallation instructions say...I was sketchy about it myself
[00:33] <SIR_Taco> yes, not a good idea
[00:33] <Linkmaster> Should I attempt to install without the kernel assumption?
[00:33] <tsimpson> Linkmaster: unless you're running a 2.2.x kernel, it's bad
[00:33] <tsimpson> and if you are running a 2.2.x kernel, it's really bad
[00:34] <Linkmaster> I'm thinking the much newer kernel contains everything the older one needs
[00:34] <tsimpson> and if this game was made during 2.2.x days, it's ancient
[00:34] <Linkmaster> Yeah, 2003
[00:34] <tsimpson> no, even older than that
[00:34] <tsimpson> 2.2 was long, long, long, long, long ago
[00:34] <Linkmaster> Ever heard of Neverwinter Nights?
[00:36] <Linkmaster> I'll attempt to install without the assume kernel, and get back to you
[00:45] <galat> G'luck, Linkmaster ;]
[00:45] <Linkmaster> This is frustrating...I'm mounting the .iso file, but dolphin isn't noticing it
[00:45] <Linkmaster> wait, I lied
[00:46] <galat> my pain is, on the other hand, the runlevel...
[00:47] <galat> I cannot figure out where to put it, in order to make my box run in multiuser text by default
[00:47] <SIR_Taco> the waar begins.... the people downstairs arre about to not like me :)
[00:49] <galat> you're playing some good music? :]
[00:49] <SIR_Taco> galat: good for me, bad for them... I don't like country music haha
[00:49] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all. :)
[00:50] <BondMan> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo depmod -a
[00:50] <BondMan> Bus error
[00:50] <BondMan> how do i fix that/
[00:50] <szal> Linkmaster: iirc, you can mount ISOs in Dolphin through the context menu
[00:50] <LINKSWORD2> xD I don't like country music, either....
[00:51] <Linkmaster> I'm just being bothered now. I mounted the .iso file, and the shell script isn't accepting it...anyone care to look at what I'm doing?
[00:51] <Linkmaster> http://ldots.org/nwn
[00:51] <Linkmaster> supposedly, the installer will 'just work', and its not for me. I don't know why this is the case. I have the .iso mounted to /mnt/nwn
[00:51] <Linkmaster> Do they actually have to be CD's for this to work?
[00:52] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: I did that a long time ago... does it not just work from the CD?
[00:52] <tsimpson> the system has no notion of if it's a physical CD or not
[00:52] <tsimpson> except for "raw" (audio CDs)
[00:52] <Linkmaster> Hm...I'll burn the .iso's onto CD's then
[00:52] <Linkmaster> Wait, according to tsimpson I can avoid this
[00:52] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: no, you shouldn't have to
[00:53] <Linkmaster> Do I just change the mount point then?
[00:53] <Linkmaster> Or do I edit the .sh file to look for /mnt/nwn ?
[00:53] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: are you getting an error?
[00:53] <LINKSWORD2> ... I need to get a DVD/RW drive.
[00:53] <Linkmaster> Nothing happens
[00:53] <takoski> hi how i can with 11.04 enter in compiz settings explain in simple word please thn
[00:53] <LINKSWORD2> All I've got is a DVD/ROM drive. :/
[00:53] <Linkmaster> No errors, it does a tiny little configure, and then leaves
[00:54] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you have a script that tries to run the gaame?
[00:54] <LINKSWORD2> takoski, do you know how to find the System Settings menu?
[00:54] <Linkmaster> not tries and runs it, to install it
[00:54] <takoski> no
[00:54] <LINKSWORD2> What game, Linkmaster?
[00:54] <Linkmaster> Neverwinter Nights
[00:54] <Linkmaster> http://www.icculus.org/~ravage/nwn/
[00:54] <LINKSWORD2> Sweet. :)
[00:54] <Linkmaster> Thats where the script came from
[00:54] <LINKSWORD2> Anyway....
[00:54] <takoski> linkword2 no
[00:55] <LINKSWORD2> takoski: click on the applications menu.
[00:55] <galat> Linkmaster: that's a fine game indeed :]
[00:55] <takoski> ok
[00:55] <Linkmaster> Which is why I'm trying so hard to make it work >:l
[00:55] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, screw this!
[00:55] <galat> SIR_Taco: what's your poison? :] (your choice of music)
[00:55] <takoski> after
[00:56] <Linkmaster> I think I'll just install wine...though it would've been nice to have it work natively on Linux. I've managed to get 8 months w/o wine
[00:57] <SIR_Taco> galat: It would be alternative rock I suppose... Finger Eleven would be my favourite, but I like a mix of others too
[00:57] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it will be easier with wine lol
[00:57]  * Linkmaster gives SIR_Taco kudos 
[00:57] <LINKSWORD2> I'm considering torrent downloading Finger Eleven's discography.
[00:57] <Linkmaster> I don't care about easy, I'm proud to have a linux machine; I don't need wine clouding it up
[00:58] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[00:58] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: excellent band
[00:58] <Linkmaster> they are inded
[00:58] <Linkmaster> *indeed
[00:58]  * galat has to check for the songs...
[00:58] <LINKSWORD2> I've got a couple of their songs, but I think I should get complete albums.
[00:59] <tsimpson> 1) wine is not windows < W.I.N.E, 2) you of course already own anything copyrighted you torrent..., 3) offtopic chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please :)
[00:59] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: I haven't found one I don't like, but they're getting softer.... one of my favourite (still together bands)
[01:00] <galat> hmm... nice sounding voice :]
[01:00] <LINKSWORD2> SIR_Taco: What do you think of Saving Abel?
[01:01] <SIR_Taco> They also were called the "Rainbow Butt Monkeys"... they changed their names for obvious reasons :P
[01:01] <LINKSWORD2> lmao
[01:01] <tsimpson> please move chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <galat> Linkmaster: how about running wine for games?
[01:01] <galat> tsimpson: kk, sorry for that.
[01:01] <Linkmaster> I play linux-native games only
[01:02] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: yes, also good
[01:02] <Linkmaster> galat: LINKSWORD2: SIR_Taco: get in #kubuntu-offtopic so we can discuss this
[01:02] <SIR_Taco> yep, sorry... got off on a tangent
[01:02] <LINKSWORD2> Can I slap somebody?
[01:03] <SIR_Taco> now back to annoying my annoying neighbours (who run Kubuntu? lol)
[01:05] <galat> Anyhow, here's another in-topic question for you ;]
[01:06] <SIR_Taco> galat: shoot
[01:07] <galat> How is that, I cannot connect to IRC in no way at all (here I am running irc on friend's shell)
[01:07] <galat> I am behind a hardware firewall, okay, but ports are forwarded alright
[01:08] <galat> Besides, if it was for the port forwarding/blocking sake, then the http protocol is not forwarded in that HW firewall
[01:08] <galat> neither is ssh
[01:08] <galat> just cannot figure it out ;/
[01:09] <tsimpson> usually you don't need to forward ports for IRC
[01:09] <SIR_Taco> so you haave http and ssh? but no irc?
[01:09] <galat> SIR_Taco: yup
[01:10] <galat> tsimpson: that's what I thought up to... yestedday, when I hit the wall with my own face ;}
[01:10] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:10] <LINKSWORD2> That's gotta hurt.
[01:10] <SIR_Taco> galat: you have port 194 open?
[01:10] <galat> Anyhow, back to the techie topic, any ideas?
[01:10] <tsimpson> outbound connections don't require port forwarding, they traverse NAT
[01:11] <galat> hmm, checking...
[01:11] <galat> 194? No... what's that for?
[01:11] <SIR_Taco> is that not for IRC? maybe I'm mistaken
[01:12] <tsimpson> don't trust everything in /etc/services
[01:12] <galat> I thought 113 - identd... but here I have my identd installed as deamon and port forwarded ... and I have no clue what else could that be ;/
[01:13] <tsimpson> can you telnet into IRC?
[01:13] <galat> hmm...
[01:13] <galat> gonna check...
[01:13] <tsimpson> "telnet irc.freenode.net 6667"
[01:14] <tsimpson> you should see some messages if it works, if not then something is blocking your outbound connection, possibly firewall or network/ISP being dumb
[01:15] <galat> it processes my connection now...
[01:16] <tsimpson> if you can telnet in, then I guess check the setting in your client
[01:16] <galat> ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection timed out)
[01:16] <LINKSWORD2> :o
[01:16] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:16] <tsimpson> that's just because you didn't login
[01:16] <tsimpson> you still got messages from the server, proving you can connect to IRC
[01:17] <galat> tsimpson: I couldn't login.
[01:17] <galat> I only got those 4 server notices...
[01:17] <tsimpson> of course you couldn't, you don't know the IRC protocol like us 1337 people
[01:17] <LINKSWORD2> *Facepalm*
[01:17] <tsimpson> but the proof is that you can connect to the server, and communicate with it
[01:17] <tsimpson> so it's something in your IRC software that's not working
[01:18] <galat> like...
[01:18] <galat> in my irssi?
[01:18] <tsimpson> like wrong setting
[01:18] <tsimpson> or some proxy setting gone wrong
[01:18] <galat> hmm...
[01:18] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: I feel like you should be slapped for saying 1337...
[01:18] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: I only use it ironically :)
[01:20] <galat> Hmmmm....
[01:20] <galat> I checked through irssi...
[01:20] <galat> It goes through.
[01:21] <lemons> i have two monitors, is there anyway to get the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.04 to be on the left side of my second monitor(which i use as my main monitor) instead of the first monitor?
[01:21] <galat> Must be the irc-server is blocking connection.
[01:21] <galat> Anyway, thanks tsimpson - that explained A LOT :]
[01:21] <tsimpson> :)
[01:36] <galat> K...
[01:36] <galat> Good night ppl :]
[01:36] <Linkmaster> 'Night
[01:46] <lemons> i have two monitors, is there anyway to get the bar on the left side of ubuntu 11.04 to be on the left side of my second monitor(which i use as my main monitor) instead of the first monitor?
[02:05] <LINKSWORD2> lemons: Perhaps I can help you, but I might need a little better of an explanation.
[02:08] <KimLaroux> Same here
[02:08] <KimLaroux> lemons, what exactly is the "bar on the left"? and are you using KDE?
[02:12] <LINKSWORD2> No response... :/
[02:22] <LINKSWORD2> What a disappointment.... :/
[02:22] <KimLaroux> happens too often
[02:24] <LINKSWORD2> Shame.
[02:27] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: you left -offtopic
[02:28] <szal> Linkmaster: no response expected since he decided to leave 10 mins before you answered
[02:28] <Linkmaster> szal: wrong Link?
[02:28] <fenugreek> guys, ordinary 10.04 install, amarok and dragon player don't play things
[02:28] <fenugreek> sorry they aren't playing from discs
[02:28] <fenugreek> audio CDs & DVDs
[02:28] <Linkmaster> fenugreek: you installed the restricted extras?
[02:28] <Linkmaster> Oh
[02:28] <fenugreek> pretty sure, I got that popup with the checkboxes
[02:28] <Linkmaster> sounds like medibuntu perhaps?
[02:29] <fenugreek> medibuntu?
[02:29] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: help him with that, I forgot how to do it, since I've only done it once
[02:29] <LINKSWORD2> ... Yeah, right. I've never done that.
[02:30] <Linkmaster> Well
[02:30] <Linkmaster> hold on one second then
[02:30] <fenugreek> it seems fairly regularly, this is the second install I've done that's had this issue with Amarok, though dragon player worked on the other one... (perhaps because I attempted but failed to switch it to use VLC by default for DVD playback)
[02:30] <fenugreek> seems to happen fairly regularly*
[02:30] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, so I take it the disks play on other sofwares?
[02:31] <fenugreek> hum, apt-get says kubuntu-restricted-extras isn't installed...
[02:31] <wildgoose> KimLaroux, maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:31] <szal> Linkmaster: yeah, right
[02:31] <Linkmaster> Then install that, and I'll find the link for medibuntu
[02:31] <fenugreek> what's medibuntu?
[02:31] <Linkmaster> a bunch of useful things
[02:32] <fenugreek> useful things?  Who needs'm!
[02:32] <Linkmaster> True, very true
[02:32] <wildgoose> oops meant for fenugreek
[02:32] <fenugreek> it's far out using desktop effects with this ancient nvidia AGP card
[02:33]  * Linkmaster is confused...the medibuntu forum was deleted by the SQL corruption. hrm
[02:33] <fenugreek> wildgoose: something must've gone wrong with the checkbox popup at the beginning, the restricted-extras packages doesn't seem installed, gonna see if just installing that fixes it
[02:33] <KimLaroux> Interresting, I have a fresh install and I don't have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed... but still everything works.
[02:33] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: well that isn't boosting my confidence
[02:34] <KimLaroux> lol, checking the description of the package, I probably just installed all of those things manually, that's why
[02:34] <fenugreek> no apparent effect installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:35] <KimLaroux> restarted amarok?
[02:35] <fenugreek> inserting and opening in amarok or dragon player an audio CD or DVD respectively does nothing
[02:35] <fenugreek> yeah it wasn't running
[02:35] <KimLaroux> Are those disks encrypted?
[02:36] <wildgoose> fenugreek, Try my link
[02:36] <KimLaroux> Ah, yes, I was gonna paste that exact link...
[02:36] <fenugreek> I will, but that likely won't do anything for audio CDs & amarok, right?
[02:37] <KimLaroux> I would try it before saying that
[02:38] <fenugreek> I'm starting to question 10.04.2
[02:38] <fenugreek> didn't have these issues with 10.04 installs
[02:39] <KimLaroux> I was on 11.04 last week, I formated and installed 10.04... I'm not upgrading till the next LTS
[02:39] <fenugreek> mmm
[02:40] <SIR_Taco> everyone has their own experiences
[02:40] <KimLaroux> I guess
[02:40] <LINKSWORD2> fenugreek:  I started with 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04, and everything here seems to be going fine.
[02:40] <fenugreek> that seems a little drastic
[02:40] <LINKSWORD2> No, it's not.
[02:41] <KimLaroux> what's drastic?
[02:41] <LINKSWORD2> 10.10 is the most recent precursor to 11.04, so the upgrade process is relatively seamless.
[02:41] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: yes, but the .10 series is considered unstable..,
[02:41] <fenugreek> for just getting dragon player and amarok to work?
[02:42] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, no, not at all
[02:42] <KimLaroux> it's just one command that opens up proprietary stuff
[02:42] <fenugreek> what is?
[02:42] <KimLaroux> this :: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[02:42] <SIR_Taco> wow... I think I missed a huge discussion lol
[02:42] <fenugreek> yes I've done that
[02:43] <KimLaroux> and? it didn't work?
[02:43] <fenugreek> nope
[02:43] <fenugreek> let me find commandline mplayer, can rule out hardware insanity
[02:43] <wildgoose> and restarted?
[02:43] <fenugreek> restarted?  What is this Windows?
[02:43] <KimLaroux> I was gonna say reboot
[02:43] <wildgoose> "May require reboot"
[02:43] <fenugreek> not doing either
[02:43] <KimLaroux> yes, it sounds windows-like... but you just installed a bunch of stuff
[02:43] <SIR_Taco> fenugreek: you're not using Windows?!
[02:43] <SIR_Taco> :)
[02:43] <fenugreek> SIR_Taco: =P
[02:44] <wildgoose> fenu did you read the page?
[02:44] <fenugreek> 'may require a reboot' means someone who doesn't know wrote that
[02:44] <KimLaroux> actually, it says "Rebooting may be necessary."
[02:45] <fenugreek> 'Rebooting may be necessary.' means someone who doesn't know wrote that
[02:45] <KimLaroux> lol
[02:45] <KimLaroux> and I suppose you know better =P
[02:45] <fenugreek> and it still wouldn't explain amarok not working
[02:45] <fenugreek> gonna see what mplayer dvd:// does
[02:46] <SIR_Taco> Often it's easier to re-boot than to shutdown and restart all the dependant services
[02:46] <fenugreek> and then cdda://
[02:46] <fenugreek> for what?
[02:46] <fenugreek> I've never rebooted for software installating short of kernel reconfiguring on Linux in my life
[02:46] <fenugreek> don't tell me KDE makes you do that
[02:47] <fenugreek> okay now we're getting somewhere
[02:47] <fenugreek> no /dev/dvd
[02:47] <SIR_Taco> fenugreek: no, it's often kernel, driver, boot, and/or network related.... but still don't know what your problem is haha
[02:47] <fenugreek> what do I need to do to make it work with sr0?
[02:48] <Linkmaster> how in the world do you use wine?
[02:48] <fenugreek> Linkmaster: to accomplish what?
[02:48] <KimLaroux> you don't, it'S evil
[02:48] <LINKSWORD2> LMAO!
[02:49] <Linkmaster> I'd rather not use wine, but I need to install a game so that I can transfer the files over to my native linux installation
[02:49] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you type "wine something.exe"
[02:49] <Linkmaster> NWN
[02:49] <Linkmaster> ah, thank you
[02:49] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, when you insert a disk... does dmesg comment about it?
[02:49] <fenugreek> Linkmaster: which files?  They should be on the install media, just mount -o loop
[02:49] <LINKSWORD2> :/
[02:49] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: everything works fine if I manually specify that my device is /dev/sr0
[02:49] <fenugreek> it seems /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom are MIA
[02:49] <Linkmaster> I burned them to a disk, and used 'apt-get install wine' to put wine on my computer for the first tiem
[02:49] <LINKSWORD2> You don't use WINE, you drink wine. :)
[02:50] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe.
[02:50] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: your "windows" system is under .wine/drive_c/ in your home directory
[02:50] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, in amarok? I didn't even know there was a place in Amarok to specify a directory... it's all autodetect usually
[02:50] <Linkmaster> Yeah, I figured that out
[02:50] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: no, usually it says "hey /dev/cdrom, where is the device?"
[02:50] <fenugreek> but I don't have /dev/cdrom, it seems
[02:50] <fenugreek> okay I do have it, but it's not working
[02:51] <fenugreek> no /dev/dvd at all, though, dvd1
[02:51] <fenugreek> okay, looks like I have /dev/cdrom1 and /dev/dvd1 instead of sane names
[02:52] <SIR_Taco> argh, rebooting again... everyone figure out their problems before I get back :)
[02:52] <fenugreek> haven't used a computer with more than one optical drive in ages
[02:52] <fenugreek> I s'pose that's the root of the problem
[02:52] <KimLaroux> might not help
[02:53] <KimLaroux> but I don't see how that can prevent Amarok/KDE from auto-detecting disks
[02:53]  * fenugreek shrugs
[02:53] <fenugreek> it is
[02:53] <fenugreek> and I'm betting if I had an ordinary /dev/cdrom and dvd they'd be happy as clams
[02:54] <fenugreek> (which are of course very happy creatures)
[02:54] <KimLaroux> I'm betting that if you reboot it'll be working XD
[02:54] <fenugreek> already rebooted
[02:54] <KimLaroux> really? oh, ok
[02:54] <fenugreek> ...for a kernel upgrade =P
[02:54] <KimLaroux> Gah!
[02:55] <SIR_Taco> I thought everything was going to be fine..... after I rebooted?
[02:55] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[02:57] <fenugreek> guess I'll check the BIOS for insanity
[02:57] <SIR_Taco> Still.... no one has explained to me what's going on... so I can be lazy I guess :)
[02:57] <fenugreek> thanks, brb =P
[02:57] <KimLaroux> about time
[02:58] <dineshnn_> how to activate the firewall in kubuntu 11.04
[02:58] <SIR_Taco> dineshnn_: a firewall is already active... if you want to tweak it, there are programs to do that
[02:59] <KimLaroux> there is? I always wondered if there was one
[02:59] <dineshnn_> how to find that it is activated or not?
[02:59] <dineshnn_> SIR_Taco can you guide me
[03:01] <wildgoose> dineshnn_, If you want simple try gufw
[03:01] <dineshnn_> wildgoose: can you guide me how to do that
[03:02] <dineshnn_> i am new to kubuntu
[03:02] <wildgoose> dineshnn_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw
[03:02] <SIR_Taco> fwbuilder is good
[03:04] <SIR_Taco> KimLaroux: there's a basic firewall via iptables that is installed by default
[03:04] <KimLaroux> SIR_Taco, thanks, I looked it up already =P
[03:04] <SIR_Taco> KimLaroux: haha ok
[03:04] <Linkmaster> How do you mount a CD that doesn't want to be mounted? Should I simply loop the mount in the .wine folder to make the WINE installer think the CD is there?
[03:05] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: an actual CD, or an image of a cd (.iso etc.)?
[03:05] <Linkmaster> I popped the next CD into the CD tray, and nothing comes up
[03:05] <LINKSWORD2> Most likely an image.
[03:06] <LINKSWORD2> Oh... :/
[03:06] <Linkmaster> I can use an image as well though, since I have access to them
[03:06] <KimLaroux> dineshnn_, lookup "firewall" in KPackageKit, there's a few apps to edit the iptable firewall. KMyFirewall seems to be ok
[03:06] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: so the wine program is saying "insert disc two" ?
[03:06] <Linkmaster> yep
[03:07] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: and now nothing will mount. Dics 1 won't mount either, so I know theres a problem somewhere
[03:07] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you need to unmount the current CD at the current mount point.... and then mout the next CD (CD2) at the same mount point....
[03:07] <SIR_Taco> if that makes sense
[03:07] <Linkmaster> So ejecting the CD didn't unmount it?
[03:08] <Linkmaster> though I can figure it out, I have a rough idea of what you mean
[03:08] <SIR_Taco> not necessarily
[03:08] <Linkmaster> well, its not in media...
[03:09] <Linkmaster> How should I mount it, and unmount the other?
[03:11] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: does it show up under /media?
[03:11] <Linkmaster> nope
[03:11] <LINKSWORD2> Oy... What a night.
[03:12] <Linkmaster> I know ):
[03:12] <dineshnn> thanks friends GUFW has worked for firewall
[03:13] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: /dev/sr0 should be your CD/DVD drive...
[03:13] <SIR_Taco> dineshnn: glad to hear
[03:13] <Linkmaster> it doesn't show up with fdisk -l
[03:13] <dineshnn> guide me for connecting two computers. one is connected by lan cable and one is connected by wifi router........this is for file sharing
[03:14] <SIR_Taco>  Linkmaster: it wont... it's not a hard drive
[03:14] <Linkmaster> how can I find it then?
[03:16] <Linkmaster> Should I just use the .iso files I have on my harddisk?
[03:16] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: well...  you either have one of the two, which is one an the same normally... ls -la /dev/scd* or ls -la /dev/scr*
[03:16] <Linkmaster> let me try that
[03:17] <szal> /dev/sr*
[03:17] <SIR_Taco> szal: yes, thanks
[03:17] <Linkmaster> I got two outputs, you wish to see?
[03:17] <SIR_Taco> sure
[03:17] <Linkmaster> joshua@Isadora:/media$ ls -la /dev/scd*
[03:17] <Linkmaster> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2011-06-25 22:01 /dev/scd0 -> sr0
[03:17] <Linkmaster> joshua@Isadora:/media$ ls -la /dev/sr*
[03:17] <Linkmaster> brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2011-06-25 22:01 /dev/sr0
[03:17] <FloodBotK1> Linkmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok. so, scd0 points to sr0, which is all fine and dandy...
[03:19] <Linkmaster> Thats good I assume
[03:19] <Linkmaster> *?
[03:20] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: yep that's good. So you have two options... you can play around with Wine settings, or you can manually mount and unmount CDs for installation
[03:20] <Linkmaster> which results in a permanent fix?
[03:20] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it's only for installation, after that there's nothing to do
[03:21] <Linkmaster> I figured...I think it'd be best to mount/unmount the CD's
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> might need to get a "no-cd" patch, but can't remember
[03:22] <Linkmaster> I have one....:P
[03:22] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok... so you can "sudo mkdir /mnt/nwn/; mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/nwn/"
[03:22]  * Linkmaster is happy since he already has the /mnt/nwn directory :D
[03:22] <SIR_Taco> ... sudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/nwn/
[03:23] <SIR_Taco> I meant
[03:23] <Linkmaster> let me do that
[03:24] <Linkmaster> I mounted it..
[03:25] <fenugreek> okay, fixed dvd1 to dvd with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
[03:25] <Linkmaster> it isn't showing up dolphin though, and I can't get the installation to continue
[03:25] <fenugreek> changed cdrom1 to cdrom, too, but amarok is still not opening audio CDs
[03:25] <SIR_Taco> ok.... now you should be able to go on the cd "cd /mnt/nwn/" then "wine setup.exe" or whatever the install program is
[03:26] <Linkmaster> But the installation is already going...
[03:26] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: well you'll have to start it again I'm afraid
[03:26] <Linkmaster> That makes no sense
[03:26] <Linkmaster> Hrm
[03:27] <Linkmaster> I'd need to put the first disk back in to start the installation, and then I'll be back at square one
[03:28] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: do you know where the first disc is mounted? /media perhaps?
[03:28] <Linkmaster> It was mounted in /media..perhaps I should have manually mounted that
[03:28] <SIR_Taco> where in media?
[03:29] <Linkmaster> /media/lots_of_numbers
[03:30] <Linkmaster> I'm going to cancel the installation, and see what happens if I mount the first cd to /mnt/nwn
[03:30] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok.... so you can do "umount /media/lots_of_numbers" then eject the CD, then "sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/lots_of_numbers"
[03:31] <Linkmaster> It was no longer mounted when I pulled the other cd out
[03:31] <Linkmaster> I think the installation got hung on a mountless point
[03:31] <SIR_Taco> likely
[03:32] <Linkmaster> let me force it to start at /mnt/nwn which is part of the computer, not created when new media comes up, and see what happens
[03:32] <Muhammad-Tahir> hi
[03:32] <sfears> hello Muhammad-Tahir
[03:32] <Muhammad-Tahir> i have a problem anybody help me :'(
[03:33] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you could do /media/nwn/  doesn't really matter so long as you remember where
[03:33] <Muhammad-Tahir> i treid to update my kubuntu and some unkown error occurd
[03:33] <Linkmaster> I'm having difficulties...it says it can't be unmounted because 'the device is busy' its not even in the cd-tray >:l
[03:34] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: do you still haave a window open in Dolpin?
[03:34] <Linkmaster> nope, tis closed
[03:34] <Linkmaster> I'm just going to smite /nwn and start over
[03:34] <SIR_Taco> no knosole and/or console?
[03:34] <Muhammad-Tahir> now my os does not starts i m having difficullties
[03:35] <Linkmaster> let me exit both of my konsoles real fast before I start smiting things..
[03:35] <Muhammad-Tahir> is there any way with which i can remove some of the updates and re-install them ?
[03:35] <Linkmaster> that worked
[03:35]  * Linkmaster is glad he didn't go on a smiting rampage
[03:36] <SIR_Taco> haha
[03:36] <Muhammad-Tahir> Sir can u help me ?
[03:37] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: how did you update  your OS?
[03:38] <Muhammad-Tahir> through system and update manager i dailly check for updates
[03:39] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: and now you can't boot into Kubuntu?
[03:39] <Muhammad-Tahir> sorry i m new to linux its xubuntu
[03:39] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: don't be sorry
[03:40] <Muhammad-Tahir> i m running it in the beggining it said files missing r errors
[03:40] <Muhammad-Tahir> but i just kept restarting it and now its running]
[03:40] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: ok, so it is running (currently)?
[03:41] <Muhammad-Tahir> yes but it is saying A peroblem occured when checking for updates
[03:42] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: can you cut and paste the errors to http://paste.kde.org/
[03:42] <Muhammad-Tahir> how can i copy the errors its running smoothly now :(
[03:43] <SIR_Taco> ok, so everything is fine now then?
[03:44]  * SIR_Taco doesn't know why  he has gray hair :P
[03:44]  * Linkmaster chuckles
[03:45] <Muhammad-Tahir> i cant have updates that is the problem
[03:45] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: ok, so you get errors when you try to update?
[03:45] <Muhammad-Tahir> no
[03:46] <SIR_Taco> then what's the problem?
[03:47] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: before I do anythign that would cause epic problems, the installation is now asking for CD2. My problem is, I tried 'sudo umount /mnt/nwn' and its complaining about being busy. and I don't want to spit the CD out and cause issues. Unless it won't cause issues
[03:47] <Muhammad-Tahir> there are no updates to install
[03:47] <Muhammad-Tahir> but it ll keep saying that i had this problem earlier :(
[03:48] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: you need to un-mount the first CD before you can mount the second in the same place....
[03:48] <Linkmaster> I know that
[03:48] <Linkmaster> It was complaining of being busy when I tried 'sudo umount /mnt/nwn'
[03:48] <Linkmaster> not mount, umount
[03:49] <Linkmaster> can I just hit the disk drive and everything be good?
[03:49] <Muhammad-Tahir> once i had this problem with fedora but than i simple removed the last updates and re downloaded and the problem was solved
[03:49] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[03:50] <LINKSWORD2> Linkmaster: Some games just aren't meant to be used on Linux. lol
[03:50] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: I shall prevail! especially since this game was made for Linux
[03:50] <LINKSWORD2> Just download the Linux version, then.
[03:50] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: I know I have had NWN working on linux
[03:50] <fenugreek> how does one replace dragon player and amarok with VLC?
[03:51] <LINKSWORD2> fenugreek: Amarok and Dragon stay on the system.
[03:51] <Muhammad-Tahir> can any one tell me how to un-install anything from xubuntu ?
[03:51] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: I still don't fully understand   your problem.... an I would assume others don't either or they would have helped
[03:51] <LINKSWORD2> I have VLC installed on my system also and can choose what files / when to use VLC.
[03:52] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: I exhausted my resources trying to find a linux version. supposedly you need the windows installation to get it to work in linux[I never figured that out]
[03:52] <Muhammad-Tahir> SIR_TACO my problem is my os doesnot find updates anymore.
[03:52] <fenugreek> well, that'd be silly but I'd be happy if VLC were the default for DVDs and CDs
[03:52] <fenugreek> anybody know how to make that happen?
[03:52] <Muhammad-Tahir> whenever i ll try it ll say there are no updates
[03:53] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: try manually mounting it to a directory you know... and then unmoutn and remount the new CD... if it gives you an option to "browse" for the CD, then you cuold mount it wherever you want
[03:54] <Linkmaster> I just took it out..hopefully nothing bad will happen
[03:54] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: through the console? or through a program?
[03:54] <Muhammad-Tahir> Programe
[03:54] <lemons> I have a separate harddrive formatted as ext4 that I want to store all of my documents on, but I want a shortcut to it in my home directory. What's the best way to go about making the shortcut for that?
[03:55] <Linkmaster> thats wierd.....I popped in the new one, and it came up via the USB thing saying 'nwn installer disk 2'
[03:55] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: how about trying "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a console?
[03:55] <fenugreek> LINKSWORD2: and yet I've just removed them
[03:55] <Muhammad-Tahir> let me try
[03:56] <Muhammad-Tahir> sudo apt-get update i tried this
[03:57] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: yes?
[03:57] <Muhammad-Tahir> it says done..
[03:57] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: now "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:57] <SIR_Taco> without the "
[03:57] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not sure we're on the same page here, fenugreek
[03:58] <Muhammad-Tahir> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:58] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: ok... so were is the problem? what are you trying to do?
[03:59] <Muhammad-Tahir> for the last 2 weeks there is no update :(
[03:59] <Muhammad-Tahir> this is not possible this is the problem
[03:59] <Muhammad-Tahir> and my os is having difficulties in starting up
[04:00] <fenugreek> anybody know how to add VLC to device notifier settings for audio CDs and DVDs?
[04:01] <KimLaroux> Good question, I'd like to do that too ^
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: you're on 11.04?
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> The only things you will get for updates are security fixes
[04:01] <Muhammad-Tahir> how can we remove last updates so that we can re-install them ?
[04:01] <Muhammad-Tahir> yes i m
[04:02] <Muhammad-Tahir> i ll come back later
[04:03] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I've gotta drop off. See ya'll.
[04:03] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, I found it, but you have to manually add it... go to System Settings > Advanced > Device Actions
[04:04] <SIR_Taco> yea ok, everyone abandon ship :P
[04:04] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: I'm afraid that's a far cry from making it work
[04:04] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, maybe, but I'm already working on making it work here =P
[04:05] <fenugreek> I tried to copy the settings in Amarok's device notification entry for audio CDs, for example, and the second to last dropdown didn't even ALLOW ME to choose the same value
[04:05] <KimLaroux> I bet there's how-tos on the internet explaining the procedure
[04:06] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: yes there probably are, but I haven't found one in several hours of searching
[04:07] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: I'm going to try and use the .iso files
[04:07] <SIR_Taco> fenugreek: trying to get CDs to play in Amarok?
[04:07] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=84694
[04:07] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: ok
[04:07] <KimLaroux> I'm trying it, see if it works
[04:07] <fenugreek> SIR_Taco: no I gave up on that, I'm trying to use VLC for default player of DVDs and audio CDs
[04:08] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: even with the .iso, I get the "device is busy" line
[04:08] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: when trying to unmount it?
[04:08] <Linkmaster> yep
[04:09] <Linkmaster> joshua@Isadora:/mnt/nwn$ sudo umount /mnt/nwn
[04:09] <Linkmaster> [sudo] password for joshua:
[04:09] <Linkmaster> umount: /mnt/nwn: device is busy.
[04:09] <Linkmaster>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[04:09] <Linkmaster>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[04:09] <FloodBotK1> Linkmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <fenugreek> I don't even have that directory
[04:10] <SIR_Taco> I can't remember, but does NWN giv eyou and option for "Browse" or anything to 'find' the other CD?
[04:12] <Linkmaster> yeah, it allows me to browse, which I tried at one point, and it just gave me the prompt asking for another CD, though I'll try again..
[04:13] <KimLaroux> crap, fenugreek, I can't test it since my cd player isn't working well... the auto-mount doesn't work
[04:13] <SIR_Taco> ok.... when you unmount the first cd... mount the other to "/media/nwn2/"
[04:13] <fenugreek> KimLaroux: can't test what =P
[04:13] <SIR_Taco> then browse to it
[04:13] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: thats the problem, its not letting me in any way shape or form unmount the first CD
[04:14] <KimLaroux> fenugreek, the device action on DVD insert
[04:14] <fenugreek> how
[04:14] <Linkmaster> though I'm about to mount the cd2.iso onto /mnt/nwn1
[04:14] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: well then screw the first cd... just put the second cd in, close the tray and mount  it to another place (like /media/nwn2/)
[04:14] <Linkmaster> I just did that
[04:15] <Linkmaster> lets see if it allows me to change
[04:15] <Linkmaster> ahaha, finally!
[04:15] <SIR_Taco> work?
[04:15] <Linkmaster> the .isos work better then the CD's apparently
[04:15] <Linkmaster> Its starting the second stage of installing
[04:16] <Linkmaster> I'll make a /mnt/nwn2, finish the installation, and then close everything, unmount it all, delete it all, and I'll have figured it out with your help
[04:17] <SIR_Taco> and now you have lots of Bioware fun ahead of you :)
[04:20] <Linkmaster> It installed, it installe
[04:20] <Linkmaster> *installed
[04:21] <Linkmaster> Now....to follow the readme.txt that was located inside of the .tar.gz file that I was attempting to follow along..
[04:22] <SIR_Taco> haha ok
[04:25] <Linkmaster> whats the best way to copy a file/folder and all its contents? -R?
[04:25] <Linkmaster> cp -R blahblah
[04:25] <Linkmaster> and also, to copy multiple files at once
[04:28] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: ping
[04:30]  * Linkmaster goes off to the search engines and hopes they can understand his strangeness
[04:31] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: copy a directory and it's contents?
[04:31] <Linkmaster> I was right!
[04:31] <SIR_Taco> you were right
[04:31]  * Linkmaster is joyeous that his gut instincts are starting to prove correct
[04:31] <Linkmaster> bash is fairly predictable once you start to figure it out
[04:31] <SIR_Taco> exactly
[04:32] <Linkmaster> Though, is it possible to copy multiple things at once?
[04:32] <SIR_Taco> there's many ways to copy many things at once
[04:32] <Linkmaster> say, in ~/example we have ex1 ex2 and ex3 and want to copy them to ~/other-example
[04:33] <Linkmaster> well, I know of rysnc and dd and stuff, I meant with the simple cp command
[04:34] <SIR_Taco> you can do cp *.blah, or cp f?le.blah... prett much the same as old DOS, but you can do regulaar expression stuff too... if you really want to get into it
[04:35] <Linkmaster> heres an example of what I want to do
[04:35] <Linkmaster> 'sudo cp ambient data music other-stuff /usr/local/games/nwn
[04:36] <Linkmaster> does that work, or no? It has a sudo attached to the front, which is why I don't want to test it
[04:37] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: should there be "/" in there?
[04:38] <Linkmaster> I'm starting from the directory I'm going to copy from, and I have all the '/' in the correct places
[04:39] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: then do what you did before.... cp -R ambient ~/.wine/drive_c/Bioware/etc.
[04:39] <Linkmaster> alright, just making sure I was right
[04:39] <Linkmaster> and I'm actually copying FROM the installation to a new folder :P
[04:41] <fenugreek> looks like I needed /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/vlc-opendvd.desktop, -opencda.desktop, etc. (gosh why didn't I think of that!)
[04:43] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: as long as it's working... lol
[04:43] <Linkmaster> yep yep. Let me do that
[04:47] <Wolf_22> I'm using the Kubuntu 11 Alternative for a really old machine and since the thing could handle XP, I assumed it could handle this. Well, something's wrong with it (can't get past log-on prompt; keeps looping to login) and was wondering if there's a "Kubuntu Safemode" I could use to diagnose this issue?
[04:48] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: doesn't that sound like a .kde issue? permissions gone wonky?
[04:49] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: no, that sounds like an update gone wonky and needing to go through safe-mode boot in grub....
[04:49] <Linkmaster> well, he said looping login, and I've heard that is a permission issue from the kde stuff..
[04:50] <Wolf_22> How would I get to Grub?
[04:50] <Linkmaster> press and hold the shift key the moment the BIOS flashes past
[04:50] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it's more likely a video driver problem.... but I could be wrong
[04:50] <Linkmaster> we can always hope its a permission error..
[04:51] <Linkmaster> Wolf_22: do you have any nvidia or ati cards?
[04:51] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: see.... you're learning :)
[04:51] <Linkmaster> What did I learn this time? o:
[04:52] <Wolf_22> Linkmaster: I'm almost embarrassed to admit that the card is an old Voodoo...
[04:52] <Wolf_22> (Told ya it's old. ;) )
[04:52] <Linkmaster> Don't be embarrassed, its probably still better then my netbook's card :P
[04:52] <Linkmaster> But can you get to kdm? the login thing
[04:52] <SIR_Taco> oooh, Voodoo's... I spent a lot of money on a few of those
[04:53] <Wolf_22> So the Recovery Menu is up... Should I go with the failsafeX...? Note: There's no internet with this box...
[04:53] <SIR_Taco> seem to remember spending a lot of money on a Matrox Mystique to go with it haha
[04:54] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: no internet? how did  you update it and/or mess it up?
[04:54] <Wolf_22> Sir_Taco: I burnt the ISO of that Alternative to a disc and ran the install...
[04:54] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: but you had a stable system before that? or this is a new install?
[04:55] <Wolf_22> Sir_Taco: Before all this, it was running XP fine. Of course, Microsoft decided to hose my key to that legit copy, and being fed up with them, I decided to pursue Linux...
[04:56] <Linkmaster> smart choice ^
[04:56] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: ok, so new install. It's a desktop or a laptop?
[04:57] <Wolf_22> Sir_Taco: It's an old desktop.
[04:57] <Wolf_22> Had 8 running okay on it. Went through hell using the ndiswrapper to get my Wifi adapter to work but when I finally did, I tried upgrading to 9. That's when the Wifi went down.
[04:59] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: ok, so you're on 9.X? or 10.X? or 11.X? And do you have any idea what network caard   you have (Voodoo cards have been supported for over a decade in the kernel)
[04:59] <Wolf_22> SIR_Taco: 11.x Alternative. http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/natty/ (See the bottom.)
[04:59] <Wolf_22> And it'
[05:00] <Wolf_22> And it's a Wifi Adapter USB by Belkin.
[05:01]  * Linkmaster suggest possibly using 10.04, due to its more mature age
[05:01] <ilias> hi all. i just installed vlc but i dont find in my program menu. any idea?
[05:02] <SIR_Taco> ilias: wait 5 mins
[05:02] <Wolf_22> Linkmaster: I might do that. So you suspect insecure / buggy code in the overall kernal?
[05:02] <Linkmaster> Well, you're using an older system, so I'm thinking if you grab an older kernel, and a more supported OS, you might hopefully have better luck
[05:03] <SIR_Taco>  Wolf_22: but you're connecting to the internet?
[05:03] <Wolf_22> The biggest reason I got this new version was in hope of it having already the drivers I needed for the Wifi adapter...
[05:03] <ilias> wait and then do what. it will be seemed automatically?
[05:04] <Wolf_22> SIR_Taco: Yes, using a laptop. :) Not with the older computer... I was last night using 8.05, but after I upgraded it to 9, I began having problems and it made me frustrated so I went ahead and shouted broken  arrow: Got a hold of the 11 and still no go.
[05:04] <SIR_Taco> ilias: now check under kmenu->multimedia->vlc
[05:04] <yulebern__> hi all i wanted to build kde 4.7 beta on my machine just wanted to know if it can be run alongside the stable version
[05:06] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: USB wireless cards are hit and miss... they, often, run off software which venders don't want to give out
[05:07] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: outdated topic, but look at what I just found: http://robotbutler.org/article/13
[05:07] <Wolf_22> SIR_Taco: So I've learned. This thing has been a pain for that USB adapter I'm trying to get to run. I got it to work with version 8 using that ndiswrapper, but not with any other version. I'm going to go grab 10 and see what happens.
[05:08] <SIR_Taco> Wolf_22: worth a shot I guess
[05:09] <ilias> still nothing
[05:10] <SIR_Taco> ilias: how exactly did you install VLC?
[05:11] <ilias> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:15] <SIR_Taco> ilias: that's odd... but  you can still run it manually?
[05:16] <ilias> yes i run it manually
[05:17] <ilias> but i want it in my menu too
[05:18] <SIR_Taco> ilias: have you restarted KDE and/or   your computer?
[05:19] <ilias> no. do i need to log out or restart it? i think is not mandatory
[05:21] <SIR_Taco> logout, restarting is not mandatory
[05:21] <lemons> i have an ssd that is my primary drive that i boot windows off of, but it doesn't have enough space for ubuntu. is it possible for me to keep the ssd as my main drive with the bootloader and then have ubuntu installed on a separate hdd?
[05:21] <ilias> ok, i am going to do it right now and i am coming back with the result
[05:22]  * SIR_Taco braces himself
[05:24] <ilias> SIR_Taco: bingo! everything is ok now. thanks.
[05:25] <SIR_Taco> ilias: excellent, good to hear :)
[05:26] <ilias> and the more important. i can play audio cd that i couldnt with kaffeine, either dragon, either amarock!
[05:27] <SIR_Taco> ilias: even better
[05:28] <ilias> that's right. thaks again.
[05:29] <SIR_Taco> you're welcome
[05:32] <SIR_Taco> I'm quite impressed with the current Nouveau drivers
[05:38] <SIR_Taco> off topic... and goes back to an hour or so ago lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkgV5bl7kQ
[05:46] <tyler> HEY
[05:47] <Guest2895> Hey Kubuntu users.
[05:47] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi, Guest2895.
[05:47] <SIR_Taco> hi Guest2895
[05:48] <Guest2895> I just installed Kubuntu after getting to know Ubuntu pretty well.
[05:48] <Guest2895> I'm so confused.
[05:48] <SIR_Taco> Guest2895: ok, what's got you confused?
[05:49] <Guest2895> I need to change the default theme to a tar.gz file I have in my documents, How should I go about doing that?
[05:56] <SIR_Taco> Guest2895: wheat are you trying to accomplish?
[05:56] <Guest2895> I just really dislike this default GUI.
[05:57] <SIR_Taco> Guest2895: KDE?
[05:58] <Guest2895> Not KDE, just the default KDE theme.
[05:58] <Guest2895> If that makes any sense.
[05:58] <Guest2895> Basically I need to change the default theme to a TAR.GZ file I have in my documents.
[05:59] <SIR_Taco>  Guest2895: why the hell do  you need to compress the default themee to a tar.gz file?
[06:00] <Graf_Westerholt> SIR_Taco, I think me means the opposite.
[06:00] <Graf_Westerholt> *he
[06:01] <Graf_Westerholt> He has a file with a design and whant to set it active.
[06:01] <Guest2895> No, I don't like the default theme, It's horrible.
[06:01] <Graf_Westerholt> *wants
[06:01] <Guest2895> I need to change it to a different theme.
[06:01] <Guest2895> which just so happens to be a tar.gz file.
[06:01] <SIR_Taco> Graf_Westerholt: ah ok, that maakes more sense
[06:02] <Guest2895> Yeah, what Graf said.
[06:02] <Graf_Westerholt> Guest2895, maybe you have to decompress the tar.gz-file Where did you get the file, Guest2895?
[06:03] <Guest2895> I got it here
[06:03] <Guest2895> http://fedora-art.org/content/show.php/Gaia+Nova?content=75930&PHPSESSID=34127d87b365aa6cb2be6d8d0a5a3696
[06:04] <Graf_Westerholt> Guest2895, I am sure this is for Gnome. fedora uses Gnome.
[06:05] <SIR_Taco> yea that's not a KDE theme
[06:05] <Guest2895> All this time i thought it was.
[06:05] <Guest2895> looks like it's time to go install GTK.
[06:06] <Graf_Westerholt> Guest2895, type ALT+F2, type in „theme“ and hit enter.
[06:06] <SIR_Taco> Guest2895: good luck with that :)
[06:06] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it's well past your bed time
[06:07] <Linkmaster> I care not :P
[06:07] <Linkmaster> X died on me randomely
[06:07] <SIR_Taco> me neither lol
[06:07] <Linkmaster> Third or so time its happened now
[06:07] <psycho> do u wanna install kde on ur system?
[06:07] <psycho> just use sudo apt-get install plasma-desktio
[06:07] <psycho> *desktop
[06:09] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: I only bug you because I know you're in the same timezone as me :P
[06:09] <Linkmaster> We should also bug Unit193 since he is as well
[06:09]  * Unit193 is sleeping
[06:09] <Linkmaster> lies
[06:09] <Unit193> Wait... Awww dang it!
[06:09] <SIR_Taco> see... Unit 193 is sensible lol
[06:10] <BluesKaj> psycho, kubunru-desktop
[06:10] <Linkmaster> Unit193: is amongst the least sensible of us :D
[06:10] <BluesKaj> err kubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Unit193> I would kinda have to agree on that one...
[06:10] <SIR_Taco> oh, you have no idea.... lol
[06:12] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: Unit193 here gave me +o on specific channel..you know how I like to catch peoples computers on fire...you sure he's sensible now? xD
[06:13]  * Linkmaster rages because his CD-key is supposedly invalid
[06:13] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: I'm sure he was sensible before he met you... lol
[06:13] <Linkmaster> Eh, quite likely
[06:14] <Graf_Westerholt> !offtopic
[06:14] <SIR_Taco> Graf_Westerholt: true
[06:14] <anonboo> !backtrack
[06:15] <anonboo> thanks ubottu and yes I know you're a bot
[06:16] <SIR_Taco>  !ubottu !offtopic
[06:16] <Unit193> SIR_Taco: #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <SIR_Taco> didn't like that one :)
[06:16] <anonboo> heheh
[06:17] <SIR_Taco> well it's no fun if you respond Unit193
[06:17] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:17] <Unit193> SIR_Taco: Maybe I'm a smart bot
[06:17] <anonboo> doubtfull
[06:18] <SIR_Taco> Unit193: or maybe you're a second session of Linkmaster :P
[06:18] <Linkmaster> Hey, I know how to create sen...*cough* I mean, well trained bots
[06:19] <SIR_Taco> ;)
[06:31] <Muhammad-Tahir> hi Sir_TACO
[06:31] <Muhammad-Tahir> u  there ?
[06:31] <SIR_Taco> more or less
[06:33] <Muhammad-Tahir> how can i remove anything ?
[06:33] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: remove what? I program?
[06:34] <SIR_Taco> A program I mean
[06:34] <Muhammad-Tahir> yes
[06:35] <Muhammad-Tahir> i want to uninstall some updates which i doubt r not installed correctlly
[06:37] <SIR_Taco> you can do it from the command line: "sudo do apt-get reemove package" where 'package' is the  program you waant to remove
[06:37] <SIR_Taco> remove,, not reemove
[06:39] <Muhammad-Tahir> hmmm is not there any way like in xp uninstall ?
[06:39] <ovidius> hi. i have a problem with the task manager plasmoid. i want the firefox icon to appear there, if firefox is not running, but it only shows an empty spot (that works well, but not icon)
[06:40] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: yes, you can go through the Kpackagekit.... it will show what is ann isn't installed
[06:41] <SIR_Taco> I'm not goin to sleep am I? lol
[06:42] <SIR_Taco> ovidius: using the quick launch widget/plasmoid?
[06:44] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, you do not need to uninstall anything. Run „sudo apt-get check“ at the terminal.
[06:45] <Muhammad-Tahir> Reading state information... Done
[06:45] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: you mean i should try the quicklaunch plasmoid instead? i you do, but i have some other frequently used programs in the task manager plasmoid as well. i idea is: i will alwas see the icon, either for starting it or switching to it, when it is running.
[06:46] <Muhammad-Tahir> Graf my problem is. last time i installed the updates and my pc got stuck. after that i dnt have any new updates.
[06:46] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: sorry for the weird language. i have a helpful 2 year old on my lap ;-)
[06:46] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, do not worry. It should be all fine.
[06:46] <SIR_Taco> ovidius: so you want something along the lines of Windows 7?
[06:46] <Muhammad-Tahir> and when my pc starts it says a problem occured when checking for the updates.
[06:47] <Muhammad-Tahir> now after about 1 week i dnt have any updates ?
[06:47] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: the basic idea was: my most frequent programs should be in the task list: either i can start the or switch to them
[06:47] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, run „sudo apt-get update“ and pastebin the output, please.
[06:48] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: yes, an task manager has this functionality and it works great, but no icon for firefox :-(
[06:48] <Muhammad-Tahir> Graf_Westerholt Reading package lists... Done
[06:48] <SIR_Taco> ovidius: that's very odd that it doessn't have the icon
[06:50] <Graf_Westerholt> ok, Muhammad-Tahir, whait a moment, please.
[06:50] <Graf_Westerholt> -h
[06:50] <Muhammad-Tahir> Graf_Westerholt i m using xubuntu because i hv an older machine dell precision  530
[06:50] <Muhammad-Tahir> ok i m waiting.
[06:51] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: is there any log file or something for plasmoids?
[06:52] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, try „sudo dpkg --configure -a“.
[06:53] <Muhammad-Tahir> sudo dpkg --configure -a i pasted this and it did not do anything
[06:53] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, that is ok.
[06:54] <Muhammad-Tahir> Graf_Westerholt can u do me a favour ?
[06:54] <SIR_Taco> ovidius: not entirely sure to tell  you the  truth
[06:55] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, I cannot say untill I do not know what you want.
[06:56] <Muhammad-Tahir> suggest me a lightweight linux distro
[06:56] <Muhammad-Tahir> except fedora i only have one common prob in almost all distro's
[06:56] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/index_de.html
[06:56] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: depends on how lightweight
[06:57] <Graf_Westerholt> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[06:57] <Muhammad-Tahir> SIR_TACO i m on dell percision 530 1.70 ghz , 1 gb of ram
[06:57] <Muhammad-Tahir> 34 gb hdd
[06:58] <Muhammad-Tahir> now can u suggest me ?
[06:58] <ovidius> SIR_Taco: thanks. I will report a bug, as it seems like one
[06:58] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: that should  run Kubuntu
[06:58] <SIR_Taco> ovidius: ok, sounds good
[06:58] <Muhammad-Tahir> what is the difference between x and xubuntu ?
[07:00] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: you mean the difference between the X and the K in Ubuntu?
[07:00] <Muhammad-Tahir> in xubuntu except this update prob i only faced one more problem whenever i play a video from my hdd the video and audio does not match
[07:00] <Muhammad-Tahir> SIR_TACO yes
[07:02] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, Kubuntu ist with KDE, Xubuntu with XFC.
[07:03] <Muhammad-Tahir> hmmm
[07:03] <Muhammad-Tahir> i hv an old system which one i should use ?
[07:04] <Muhammad-Tahir> my system slows down. with xp i dnt have any prob but i dnt want to steal anymore
[07:04] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: ubuntu is the base of all the *buntu's.... The difference is the UI when you log in...... so Ubutu haaas Gnome (by default), Kubuntu haas KDE, Xubuntu has XFE
[07:04] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, I would try KDE, Gnome or XFC. You can install all on ONE system. You do not have to install severel systemn.
[07:04] <Graf_Westerholt> !xfc
[07:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !xfc
[07:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !xfe
[07:05] <Unit193> !xfce
[07:05] <Muhammad-Tahir> any link ?
[07:05] <Graf_Westerholt> thx Unit193 :)
[07:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !kubuntu
[07:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !kde
[07:06] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, that should help you. :)
[07:06] <Unit193> Ubuntu has Unity, not gnome. And don't forget about Lubuntu ;)
[07:06] <Graf_Westerholt> Oh, I am out of date. :)
[07:06] <Muhammad-Tahir> Graf_Westerholt yes but i m new to linux world
[07:06] <Graf_Westerholt> !lubuntu
[07:07] <SIR_Taco> Ubuntu has both (at the moment)
[07:07] <Muhammad-Tahir> in one line u ll advise me to use which one of these ? by using which i can run my pc a bit faster ?
[07:09] <SIR_Taco> Muhammad-Tahir: I would suggesst KDE, but I'm sure ssomeone  can  prove me wrong :)
[07:09] <Unit193> The most lightweight I have used (And I've used them all but Unity) would have to be LXDE
[07:09] <Graf_Westerholt> XFCE should be faster than KDE or Gnome or Unity, but I suggest you just try them all.
[07:10] <Graf_Westerholt> !lxde
[07:11] <SIR_Taco> I'd go for TGTB'
[07:11] <Graf_Westerholt> !tgtb
[07:11] <SIR_Taco> that's "Taco Go To Bed"
[07:11] <Graf_Westerholt> LOL
[07:11] <Muhammad-Tahir> LOLX
[07:11] <SIR_Taco> ;)
[07:11] <Graf_Westerholt> Let's teacht the Bot that!
[07:12] <SIR_Taco> lol... the bot shouldn't  know that lol
[07:12] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[07:12] <Muhammad-Tahir> i m new to linux but i hv used many distros
[07:12] <Muhammad-Tahir> :-p
[07:12] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, so you have to learn a lot. :)
[07:12] <Muhammad-Tahir> no no tell the bot
[07:13] <Muhammad-Tahir> yes i ll learn with the time
[07:13] <Muhammad-Tahir> thx :)
[07:13] <Graf_Westerholt> Muhammad-Tahir, read, try and learn :)
[07:13] <SIR_Taco> anyway, I need to go to bed.... teach the bot if you want haha
[07:13] <Graf_Westerholt> Bye, SIR_Taco.
[07:14] <Graf_Westerholt> ubottu, TGTB means „Taco goes to bed“.
[07:14] <SIR_Taco> good night/morning/day
[07:14] <Graf_Westerholt> ubottu, TGTB means „Taco goes to bed“. You should know that.
[07:14] <Graf_Westerholt> Silly bot.
[07:15] <Unit193> s/means/is/
[09:38] <cerrie_> hi all, anyone know how to lock a programm (Kopete) so it is not updated when you run an update?
[09:39] <cerrie_> cant see an option in the packahe manager
[09:39] <cerrie_> package*
[09:42] <cerrie_> hi all, anyone know how to lock a programm (Kopete) so it is not updated when you run an update?
[09:43] <gorgonizer> cerrie_: I have never done this myself, but I think you need to use APT pinning, as described here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:44] <cerrie_> thank you will check it out..
[09:44] <gorgonizer> there may be more up to date information out there, that was a quick google, but you are looking for apt pinning
[09:45] <cerrie_> seems the new kopete for 11.04 cannot find jasper runtime but 10.10 works fine, so dont want to update it till the bug is corrected :)
[09:46] <gorgonizer> which version of Kopete are you running?
[09:46] <gorgonizer> and which version of KDE?  Are you on 4.6.4 or 4.6.3?
[09:46] <cerrie_> Version 1.0.80 works with no issues
[09:47] <cerrie_> KDE Development Platform 4.6.2 (4.6.2
[09:48] <gorgonizer> cerrie_:  If you are on Natty then add the PPA repo  ppa:kubuntu-ppa  and your Kopeteproblem should go away..
[09:50] <cerrie_> i have tried everything with new version with no luck, reverting to the old version is the only fix i have found
[09:51] <gorgonizer> cerrie_: you have used the one in KDE SC 4.6.4?
[09:51] <cerrie_> worked :) echo kopete hold | dpkg --set-selections
[09:52] <cerrie_> i dont think do, just the one that comes with Kubunti 11.04
[09:53] <cerrie_> so*
[09:53] <gorgonizer> cerrie_: is jasper used for Jabber connections?
[09:53] <cerrie_> jaspers is for webcam and audio....
[09:54] <gorgonizer> cerrie_: ahh...  not the same issue I was thinkin gof, but glad the pinning worked..
[09:54] <cerrie_> seems the path to jasper is wrong in new kopete, there are numours bug reports for it
[09:54] <cerrie_> it worked fine.. thank you :)
[09:55] <cerrie_> been a while since i used linux, have to say i've missed.. its come a long way!
[09:56] <cerrie_> :O) sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:56] <cerrie_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:56] <cerrie_> Building dependency tree
[09:56] <cerrie_> Reading state information... Done
[09:56] <cerrie_> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:56] <cerrie_>   kopete
[09:56] <FloodBotK1> cerrie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <voicu> is there any way to change the resolution list an app can choose from?
[10:41] <voicu> I only have 3520x1200 and 3200x1080 which are not really useful
[10:41] <voicu> (it's an nvidia dual monitor setup)
[10:41] <voicu> and obviously I don't want to use separate X screens so changing nvidia settings is not an option
[13:27] <hendaus> hiya
[13:42] <dinesh> any networking experts
[14:01] <Quintasan> !neon
[14:12] <zub> Hi. Slightly OT, but anyway: it seems I have a ban on #ubuntu - and I have no idea why, is there some op/somone I could talk to?
[14:19] <yofel> zub: you want to ask that in #ubuntu-irc
[14:21] <zub> yofel: ah, ok, thanks
[14:30] <pouncymtlion> I have a suggestion for an area of interest that would add to the international consideration and appeal of the Ubuntu family of Linux...  language learning software.. not just computer languages.. but languages themselves..
[14:30] <pouncymtlion> kinda like Rosetta stone ..
[14:30] <pouncymtlion> but have a linux set of language learning softwares to help in learning other countries' languages
[14:31] <pouncymtlion> any thoughts?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:39] <esmirlin> hi folk! just a question, i want to buy a new computer, and i would like to know the best specifications for a perfect performing of kubuntu, like RAM, Graphic card... can anyone help me?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !polls | esmirlin
[15:51] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, graphics =nvidia , otherwise most new pcs will perform up to spec on ubuntu
[15:52] <esmirlin> aham, thanks!
[15:52] <esmirlin> ;)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, some of the higher end intel mulitcores are not recognized by the live cd , but most reasonably priced consumer pcs/laptops will be fine
[16:03] <Davidius> Is there anyone here willing to help a non Kubuntu user, I have PinguyOS which is an Ubuntu based distro (nothing added but extra apps on the ISO)
[16:03] <Davidius> Im getting an error Could not apply changes!
[16:03] <Davidius> Fix broken packages first.
[16:32] <Arth> hi guys
[16:36] <Guest77544> hello
[16:42] <BajK> kubuntu doesnt release any kde pre-releases anymore?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> hi
[16:42] <BajK> tehre was no 4.7 beta 1, beta 2, RC 1 -.-
[16:44] <BluesKaj> BajK, no, they pulled it afaik...looked for it myself , no luck ...holding out til oneiric is officially released I think
[16:45] <BluesKaj> even the "O" late alpha is till on 4.6.3
[16:45] <BluesKaj> still
[16:45] <BajK> :(
[16:45] <BajK> project neon is nice but really not suitable for daily life
[16:45] <cousin_mario> hello
[16:45] <BajK> its great for testing but not working
[16:46] <cousin_mario> can you recommend a decent qt-based serial terminal emulator?
[16:46] <BajK> and YES I always upgraded to the next kde major release when beta 2 or rc1 came out
[16:46] <BajK> without problems
[16:46] <BajK> I more and more start to hate Kubuntu
[16:46] <BajK> no more pre-release packages, policykit sucks, kpackagekit gets replaced by a usability FAIL package manger …
[16:47] <BajK> translations are still a mess
[16:47] <BajK> but the worst thing: the alternatives are even worse :D
[17:03] <BajK> BluesKaj: over in the other channel they say they have too much to do and there have been a lot of changes but theyre working on it and oneiric has higher priority for 4.7 than natty of course
[17:09] <BluesKaj> BajK, I appreciate your concern over apps like amarok etc, but I think "O" is going to have some positive changes , after all the next release after that is LTS and the builds better be solid before 12.04 is released
[17:09] <pengper> anybody out there?
[17:09] <pengper> ah there
[17:09] <BajK> BluesKaj: amarok?
[17:09] <BajK> i didnt say anything bout amarok
[17:10] <BajK> I was ranting about the removal of kpackagekit
[17:10] <BluesKaj> project neon etc
[17:10] <Tm_T> BajK: this is not the channel to do ranting
[17:10] <BajK> …
[17:10] <BajK> BluesKaj: dont understand what you're talking about
[17:12] <BluesKaj> BajK, i'm quoting :  <BajK> project neon is nice but really not suitable for daily life
[17:12] <BajK> BluesKaj: aaaaand?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> hey Tm_T ..how's things?
[17:13] <BajK> project neon is nice for testing and stuff but the ppa beta packages are more suitable for intensive working and testing
[17:14] <dinesh_> hi i am using Kubuntu 11.04 and i have installed gimp.. but it is not working ..how to solve it
[17:14] <Tm_T> dinesh_: how it isn't working?
[17:15] <dinesh_> Tm_T: i am seeing the icon.. when i click on that .. its not opening
[17:16]  * BluesKaj is confused http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/482
[17:17] <dinesh_> i am using 64 bit kubuntu.. i need to install flash player .. but i am not getting for that vesion
[17:18] <sobczyk> is there a way to not to set default gateway when using VPN i network manager? (I want to use my local internet connection)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> dinesh_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:20] <dinesh_> nope
[17:20] <dinesh_> how to install it
[17:20] <dinesh_> i am new to this
[17:21] <BluesKaj> open a terminal , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , dinesh_
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BajK, I'm actually glad to see kpackagekit removed ..been using muon to search the repos for apps and I prefer it's layout
[17:23] <BajK> I dont like muon at all
[17:23] <BajK> but fortunately (and I hope it stays) it is in the repisotiry
[17:23] <BajK> with kubuntu 10.10  kpackgekit got a so nice layout and so good to use
[17:23] <BajK> even my mom can use it
[17:23] <BajK> muon is just so old technical
[17:23] <BajK> it reminds me more of kpackge from kde 3.x
[17:25] <BluesKaj> heh, I still use synaptic as well
[18:40] <somekool> hi there
[18:41] <somekool> I just tried installing kubuntu 11.04. the new GUI installer is nice. but it crashed when I click on the timezone map
[18:53] <Wolf_22> What's the normal procedure to install something in Kubuntu? Is it "make install"? I
[18:53] <Wolf_22> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper...
[18:53] <Tm_T> !ndiswrapper
[18:53] <genii-around> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[18:54] <Wolf_22> k
[18:54] <genii-around> ( is for all *buntu)
[19:23] <Wolf_22> So I just tried to run "make" for ndiswrapper and it gave the following error: "34: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/build, is it configured?" Anyone have any clue what this means?
[19:25] <genii-around> I don't know why you're compiling it from source code, when there is a pre-made package available to install in the normal way with the package manager...
[19:25] <Wolf_22> genii-around: Does that require an internet connection?
[19:26] <genii-around> Wolf_22: Usually, yes
[19:27] <Wolf_22> genii-around: I don't have an internet connection on this box I'm trying to install ndiswrapper to.
[19:30] <genii-around> Wolf_22: There is also apt-offline which creates a list of stuff to download from another computer, you get stuff with that one, transfer it over with usb stick etc then install from that. The catch-22 of course is installing apt-offline without internet
[19:32] <Wolf_22> genii-around: Thanks for that tip. I was actually thinking about trying to scour Google for an ndiswrapper DEB file to use in hopes of using it to eliminate this make / dependency hazard. What do you think about this?
[19:32] <genii-around> Wolf_22: Natty deb download: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/ndiswrapper-common/download
[19:33] <Wolf_22> genii-around: Would this work on Maverick?
[19:33] <genii-around> Wolf_22: 1 sec I'll get that link
[19:33] <genii-around> Wolf_22: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/ndiswrapper-common/download
[19:34] <genii-around> Wolf_22: You can also go to the root site http://packages.ubuntu.com/  and search from there
[19:35] <genii-around> Wolf_22: When you have a deb file to install, is: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[19:36] <Wolf_22> genii-around: You totally rock. I'm off to sneaker this over to the computer now. :) 1 more thing... Should I do the "sudo make uninstall" first?
[19:36] <genii-around> Wolf_22: If it didn't successfully complete anyhow, probably not
[19:37] <Wolf_22> genii-around: The reason I ask this is because I ran that command the very first time and it removed the ndiswrapper.ko file from my fresh kubuntu install and it made me paranoid I might have made a mistake.
[19:39] <genii-around> Wolf_22: If when you run the: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb   command it complains, you can force it to overwrite whatever files were from other packages or places with --force-overwrite
[19:39] <Wolf_22> genii-around: Okay. Well, let's see what happens with all this... *crosses fingers*
[19:42] <genii-around> Wolf_22: I usually keep in my kit an USB to 10/100 network adapter for just such occasions, they come in very handy!
[19:45] <Wolf_22> genii-around: I see where you're coming from. This box I'm getting Kubuntu installed to has been very picky. I first had 8 on it, then upgraded to 9. After my ndiswrapper work with it, the upgrade broke it... So I got frustrated, wiped it with 11. That totally shot it down and I then decided to go back to 10. It installed flawlessly and now I just need to get the wifi working with my Belkin...
[19:45] <Wolf_22> ...adapter using this ndiswrapper.
[19:52] <Wolf_22> genii-around: Looks like everything ran fine. :)
[19:52] <genii-around> Cool
[20:53] <OerHeks> thank you
[20:54] <OerHeks> haw do i pair an apple magic trackpad, the BT tool keeps asking me to enter a number, even when i give a manual pin 0000
[20:59] <OerHeks> example, in dutch http://picpaste.com/pics/bt-AFW5wgYP.1309118333.png
[21:15] <genii-around> OerHeks: There seems to be something about it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad#Pairing_the_Magic_Trackpad
[21:16] <OerHeks> trusted override..
[21:33] <Lhyrra> ok, so.. I've had this issue before, still trying to resolve it.  On boot, I get shunted to busybox because "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg"  I remember that I needed to boot from liveCD, but even when I try that, I get the same "no init found" message, and get stuck in busybox.
[21:34] <Lhyrra> I know there was a way to pause the liveCD boot, and still get it to load.  I know that I need to fsck my main disc, but being stupid, I never wrote down/archived the steps involved.
[21:37]  * Lhyrra takes a number and waits...
[21:44]  * Lhyrra hums along with the waiting room muzak
[21:46]  * Lhyrra goes to get a smoke, will re-ask in a bit?
[22:00] <Lhyrra> ok, so.. I've had this issue before, still trying to resolve it.  On boot, I get shunted to busybox because "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg"  I remember that I needed to boot from liveCD, but even when I try that, I get the same "no init found" message, and get stuck in busybox.
[22:00] <Lhyrra> I know there was a way to pause the liveCD boot, and still get it to load.  I know that I need to fsck my main disc, but being stupid, I never wrote down/archived the steps involved.
[22:01] <galat> Hello guys :]
[22:02] <Lhyrra> heya galat
[22:02] <Lhyrra> kinda quiet in here
[22:02] <galat> Any one can answer techie q? :]
[22:03]  * Lhyrra points to her question ""Been waiting on a response for mine, unfortunately. Might be because it's a sunday""
[22:04] <galat> Ok, Lhyrra, maybe I can help you, and maybe just maybe you'll be able to figure out my prob ? :]
[22:04] <Lhyrra> no promises ^_^
[22:04] <galat> Worth a try though :]
[22:04] <Lhyrra> yep.
[22:05] <Lhyrra> right now I'm trying to get the liveCD to be put on a flash-drive, gonna see if that bypasses the issue enough for me to force a proper fscking of my main disk
[22:05] <galat> I'm trying to get my kubuntu run setleds when it goes to init 5 (X's)
[22:05] <galat> Hem, flashdisks under linux... tricky...
[22:06] <galat> I always had troubles with that.
[22:06]  * Lhyrra blinks at your question...
[22:06] <Lhyrra> umm.. try that again, not in Greek? sorry... ^_^
[22:06] <galat> Okay :D
[22:07] <galat> Let's see...
[22:07] <galat> I'm trying to get my [numlock] light on
[22:08] <Lhyrra> sorry... not the MOST savy when it comes to programming.  I'm better with physical engineering.
[22:08] <Lhyrra> oh..
[22:08] <galat> to do that, I need to run setleds on
[22:08] <Lhyrra> umm.. you sure the wires are good? XD
[22:08] <galat> yeah
[22:08] <Lhyrra> ok...
[22:08] <galat> I can do that by manually pressing the button
[22:08] <Lhyrra> ie the NU
[22:09] <galat> still, I would like to have it on by default
[22:09] <Lhyrra> NUMLOCK one, right?
[22:09] <Lhyrra> ah..
[22:09] <galat> together with xdm bringing up
[22:09] <galat> right
[22:09]  * Lhyrra sighs..
[22:10] <Lhyrra> sorry.. this is starting to go too deep for me... I haven't had the time, nor the inclination to dive THAT far into the coding of things.  Usually if a light doesn't go on, I either ignore it, or install a manuual switch to force it on...
[22:10] <Lhyrra> wish I could be more help.  If you need help re-wiring your house to get the lights on, I can walk you through that! ^_^
[22:10] <galat> Anyway, thank you for trying :]
[22:11] <Lhyrra> hehehe, was worth a shot.
[22:11] <galat> Yeah, I would like that :)
[22:11] <Lhyrra> oh.. rewiring the house?
[22:11] <galat> (Honestly, I need to move my light switch together with all the wire-casing from one point of a wall to another :] )
[22:12] <Lhyrra> hehehe
[22:12] <OerHeks> Lhyrra, start a live cd/usb, then your unmounted partitions, you can run fsck by following this command. sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 (only when the partition is sda1)
[22:12] <Lhyrra> that's not too hard, the trickiest part is shifting the wires.
[22:12] <galat> I'm kinda left-handed, when it comes to wires, so... gonna be a challenge ;p
[22:13] <Lhyrra> Heya DerHeks.  Problem is, I can't get my liveCD to boot, I get the damn "no init found" error there too
[22:14] <Lhyrra> I remember there was something to do as the load-screen is up, some key combo to press that allowed me to get boot options.  Unfortunately, I don't know either the keys, or the option-string
[22:14] <OerHeks> left shift for entering grub menu ?
[22:14] <OerHeks> ( during boot)
[22:15] <Lhyrra> trying...
[22:15] <Lhyrra> got shunted to busybox again.
[22:16] <Lhyrra> Rebooting and trying again
[22:17] <Unit193> Lhyrra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDBootOptions and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[22:18] <Lhyrra> oh.. hello web-links
[22:18] <Lhyrra> and I got the grub.
[22:18] <Lhyrra> ok... fun little error message that I'll pass on.. let me copy it to the paster
[22:19] <OerHeks> :-)
[22:21] <galat> BRB
[22:23] <Lhyrra> ok...
[22:23] <Lhyrra> http://paste.kde.org/88381/
[22:23] <Lhyrra> that's the fun little error that I get.
[22:26] <Lhyrra> rebooting to HDD...
[22:27] <BluesKaj> Lhyrra, did you run it in a tty ? or try a partition editor live cd like gparted to check the disk/partition for errors
[22:27] <Lhyrra> Sha-zaam! I am live.  Thanks, OerHeks!  now, to figure out why this is happening...
[22:27]  * Lhyrra blinks
[22:27] <OerHeks> nice
[22:27] <Lhyrra> umm... tty?
[22:28] <Lhyrra> use dumb people speak when it comes to that stuff *laughs* mechanical engineer, not programmer.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> nm, I shouldn't have suggested that :)
[22:28] <Lhyrra> hehe, it's ok.. the more I know, the better...
[22:29] <Lhyrra> so what is tty, and how would you go about using gparted?
[22:29] <BluesKaj> Lhyrra, on sewcond thought , that tty suggestion wouldn't have worked on an already mounted partition
[22:30] <BluesKaj> tty is the nterminal without the graphical user interface X running.
[22:30] <BluesKaj> !tty
[22:30] <Lhyrra> hehehe I only have one partition, my main disk, everything else is usb/cd
[22:31] <Lhyrra> huh...
[22:31] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:31] <Lhyrra> though I probably should check my HDD for errors.. >_>
[22:31] <BluesKaj> live cd or live partitoner is the best method as OerHeks , suggested
[22:32] <galat> Lhyrra: and possibly resize your / to get some space for a new partition :]
[22:32] <galat> BluesKaj: hey, mind a question? :]
[22:32] <Lhyrra> with only 35gb of space, and me using almost all of it on a monthly basis, I don't have the space to partition off
[22:32] <BluesKaj> galat, ok ask away
[22:33] <Lhyrra> his lights ain't working.. XD
[22:33] <galat> BluesKaj: ok, so here I am, trying to get my [numlock] light automatically on...
[22:33] <galat> BluesKaj: together with xdm startup
[22:34] <galat> BluesKaj: I'm thinking to get it on via setleds maybe
[22:34] <galat> though I have no idea how to make it work
[22:34] <BluesKaj> galat, hang on..brb
[22:34] <galat> sure thing
[22:39] <BluesKaj> galat, are you on kubuntu? . If so , goto kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>input devices>keyboard , turn on number locks
[22:41] <BluesKaj> and click apply
[22:41] <galat> Thankk you :]
[22:42] <BluesKaj> np
[22:48] <briandw1969> is libdvdcss2 preloaded into Kubuntu 11?
[22:51] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, yes, if you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[22:51] <briandw1969> how do i determine that?
[22:51] <briandw1969> just reinstalled recently
[22:52] <BluesKaj> open a terminal and do, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:52] <briandw1969> fell free to msg me
[22:52] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Ubuntu 10.04 (i386, amd64), 10.10 and 11.04 (i386, amd64)
[22:52] <claydoh> arg
[22:53] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=linkto%3A%22RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs%22
[22:53] <claydoh> doesn't mentio0n libdvdcss being included there
[22:54] <claydoh> but shows a way to install it
[22:54] <BluesKaj> claydoh, check the package manager by ntyping in libdvdcss2, see what results
[22:55] <briandw1969> extras installing now
[22:55] <briandw1969> wasnt in package manager
[22:56] <claydoh> it is in medibuntu repos
[22:56] <briandw1969> and docs i found were for older Ubuntu
[22:56] <claydoh> but the link i had, the second, gives a quick command to install it
[22:59] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, no it doesn't show up in the package manager as libdvdcss2 , it will however show  kubuntu-restricted-extras. which contains it
[23:02] <galat> Bye ppl :] Have a gnite :]
[23:02] <BluesKaj> oops , I was mistaken briandw1969 , claydoh ...oh well never mind :)
[23:02] <briandw1969> k installed thru term
[23:03] <briandw1969> will it show in kpackage now?
[23:03] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, claydoh I always have the medibuntus repos in my sources.list so I never know exactly where libdvdcss is contained
[23:04] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, medibuntu ? if so just update & upgrade and it will install
[23:08] <briandw1969> will see if it works in a bit
[23:08] <briandw1969> Thanx all
[23:21]  * BluesKaj vows to check app source details more closely in muon or synaptic , from now on
[23:27] <Linkmaster> BluesKaj: what happened?
[23:39] <Phosphenes> Hi, how do I kill a running process. I tried doing ps -A | grep amarok and then kill 8202 (the job ID for amarok) but it's still running frozen.
[23:51] <briandw1969> hey Blues?
[23:51] <briandw1969> libdvdcss.co.2 is missing?
[23:52] <briandw1969> opps so.2
[23:54] <ZweiDrei> My flash player plays videos too fast.