[00:38] <cafezim> hi
[00:38] <cafezim> I am new
[00:38] <cafezim> not in programming :)
[00:39] <cafezim> Someone here in this room?
[00:40] <axp2> Hi cafezim
[00:41] <cafezim> Hi
[00:41] <cafezim> axp2
[00:42] <axp2> do you have a question?
[00:42] <cafezim> yes, I would like to develop software
[00:42] <cafezim> I am good at Java
[00:42] <maco> cafezim: did you see what i said  in #ubuntu about how to find java packages in ubuntu?
[00:43] <cafezim> hi maco
[00:43] <axp2> cafezim: here's a good place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Programming
[00:44] <axp2> also, the way I got started was by joining papercuts-ninja
[00:44] <axp2> https://launchpad.net/~papercuts-ninja
[00:44] <cafezim> Who programs for ubuntu here?
[00:45] <cafezim> Not talking
[00:45] <cafezim> Programming
[00:45] <cafezim> ?
[00:46] <axp2> what do you mean?
[00:46] <cafezim> I mean who in this room actually develops software for the Ubuntu communnity
[00:46] <cafezim> I am asking
[00:46] <axp2> probably most of the people in here
[00:47] <cafezim> do you?
[00:47] <axp2> I am Community (i.e. not Canonical staff), but I write code for Ubuntu Software Centre
[00:48] <cafezim> Ok
[00:48] <cafezim> you gave me this link here
[00:49] <axp2> yes
[00:49] <cafezim> What are you coding?
[00:50] <axp2> do you mean which language? at the moment, python
[00:51] <cafezim> Ok, I can python, but i am good at java
[00:51] <cafezim> can't*
[00:52] <cafezim> Do you know about any relevant Java project?
[00:52] <axp2> well if you know java then you'll probably find python very easy but if you are looking for projects written in java to contribute to you can do that
[00:53] <cafezim> ok man, I will learn python
[00:53] <cafezim> syntax :)
[00:55] <cafezim> so man, are you always in this channel?
[00:55] <axp2> you don't have to learn python, but you will probably find there are far more projects to contribute to in Ubuntu if you can
[00:55] <axp2> I'm in here fairly often
[00:56] <cafezim> Ok
[00:56] <cafezim> what about c++?
[00:56] <cafezim> do you know it?
[00:56] <axp2> what about it?
[00:56] <axp2> i learned it a long time ago but have not used it for a while
[00:57] <axp2> i can read it but don't currently attempt to use it
[00:57] <cafezim> Because i am interested in OS
[00:57] <cafezim> programming
[00:57] <axp2> do you know C?
[00:58] <cafezim> not much
[00:59] <axp2> I think alot of the OS is written in C
[00:59] <axp2> but I'd recommend you start with the two links I gave you
[00:59] <axp2> the first one will give you an idea of the structure of things and how it all fits together
[00:59] <axp2> the second one is a good place to get started with small bugs that are (supposed to be) easily fixed
[01:00] <cafezim> https://launchpad.net/~papercuts-ninja
[01:00] <cafezim> this one?
[01:00] <axp2> yep. i started out with papercuts and after i'd fixed some bugs for software centre i just started writing code for it directly
[01:01] <cafezim> fixing bugs is helpful
[01:01] <axp2> sorry I have to go now, good luck. if you want to start learning some python, diveintopython.org is a good starting point
[01:01] <cafezim> thanks man, peace
[01:01] <axp2> i came from java too and i love python now
[01:01] <axp2> bye
[01:02] <cafezim> ok
[01:11] <cafezim> Tem brasileiro aqui?
[01:11] <cafezim> Ou so gringo doido
[01:33] <cafezim> hi folks how can I help
[01:33] <cafezim> ?
[01:33] <cafezim> I am good at java
[01:43] <mirak_> hi
[01:45] <cafezim> hi everyone
[01:45] <cafezim> I have just joined https://launchpad.net/~papercuts-ninja
[01:46] <cafezim> for fixing bugs
[01:46] <cafezim> enter if you have programming skills
[04:42] <ScottK> slangasek: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74126243/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.pdns_2.9.22-9build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz looks like a multi-arch related build failure to me.
[09:24] <ohsix> hm why are the changelogs in aptitude still broken for security and proposed packages
[09:49] <cjwatson> sveinse: all binary packages come from source packages.  to do what you're asking, simply have the source package not do anything interesting at the build step, and just have it copy the binaries into the output tree
[09:50] <cjwatson> source package doesn't necessarily imply distinct source code
[09:50] <cjwatson> (although it's usual, hence the name)
[12:31] <notdurandal> anyone awake?
[14:28] <MeIsBrains> hey all
[14:28] <MeIsBrains> braaaand new here
[14:29] <MeIsBrains> anyone here?
[15:06] <cjwatson> lamont: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.0-2.3/+build/2590256 looks stalled to me; hasn't shifted since I checked earlier this morning
[15:07] <cjwatson> and has taken over 14 hours longer than the previous build https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.0-1.2/+build/2571636 so ofar
[15:07] <cjwatson> *far
[21:44] <slangasek> ScottK: confirmed; bypassing autoconf, grr
[21:45] <ScottK> slangasek: Have fun.