[06:25] <shahrookh> سلام
[06:25] <shahrookh> یه سوال - چرا اوبونتو با لپ تاپ های اچ پی سازگار نیست ؟
[06:37] <ataz> hi i amir           in            iran
[06:37] <ataz> help
[06:40] <ayaz> How can I get familiar with the command line faster
[06:41] <ayaz> How can I get familiar with the command line faster
[06:41] <ayaz> help
[07:22] <AYAZ-IRAN> HI
[07:22] <AYAZ-IRAN> HELP COMMAND
[07:23] <AYAZ-IRAN> Thanks for your help to learn the command line
[07:23] <AYAZ-IRAN> Want to learn
[07:24] <AYAZ-IRAN> UBUNTU                   LIVE   LIVE           LIVE
[07:24] <AYAZ-IRAN> *********************************
[07:24] <AYAZ-IRAN> HELP
[07:24] <AYAZ-IRAN> HELP
[07:31] <hale> salam
[07:32] <AYAZ-IRAN> SALAM
[07:32] <AYAZ-IRAN> SHOMA
[11:11] <hale> salam
[11:30] <shajrookh> چرا اوبونتو 11.04 بیتی 64 روی لپ تاپ اچ پی نصب نمیشه؟
[11:50] <ilius> http://www.danatarin.com
[11:53] <ilius> everplays: dada in site ro chera be ma moarefi nakardi? :D
[11:54] <Zpix> doostan yari konid baraye tahiye 1 remaster az ubuntuii ke nasb daram
[11:55] <Zpix> emkanesh hast ke hame barnamehaii ke nasbe ham bahash bashe?
[11:56] <ilius> Zpix: chera ru flash nasb nemikoni ke hame ja dashte bashi?
[11:56] <Zpix> ilius: samnaleykoom
[11:56] <ilius> Zpix: daresare remaster o ina ham nadare
[11:56] <ilius> Zpix: salam
[11:57] <ilius> Zpix: age package haye download shode ro mikhay move koni, folder e /var/cache/apt
[12:01] <Zpix> ilius: sorry naboodam poshte miz
[12:02] <Zpix> ilius: agha man mikham kolle in systemi ke alan nasb daran
[12:02] <Zpix> ilius: ba hameye software ha ro remaster konam
[12:03] <Zpix> ilius: bebaram roo ye system dige eyne hamino nasb konam
[12:03] <Zpix> ilius: mishe?
[12:05] <Zpix> ilius: yani moshkele asli ine ke in hame software ro dobare nasb nakonim az net
[12:05] <ilius> Zpix: be in rahati nist
[12:05] <Zpix> ilius: :D
[12:05] <Zpix> ilius: sakhtam bashe anjam midim
[12:05] <ilius> Zpix: vali age faghat mikhay dobare download nakoni, rahate
[12:05] <Zpix> ilius: faghat 1 how to ye rahnamii
[12:07] <ilius> Zpix: ye ubuntuye dige nasb kon, hamun folder e /var/cache/apt/archive ro az ubuntu e aval copy kon ru dovommi, baad be internet vasl sho va "apt-get update bezan" va badesh har chi khasti nasb kon, package hayi ke ghablan (tu ubuntu e ghabli) download shode bashe, dobare download nemishe
[12:08] <ilius> Zpix: remaster kardan dardesaresh ziade, fekr nakonam biarze
[12:09] <Zpix> ilius: 1 bar remaster kardam 3.45 GB shod amma boot nashod :(
[12:09] <Zpix> ilius: ba aptoncd ham mishe na?
[12:10] <ilius> Zpix: shodan ke mishe
[12:10] <ilius> Zpix: سختی و آسونی‌ش رو نمی‌دونم
[12:11] <Zpix> ilius: besiar mamnoon az rahnamaii
[12:11] <Zpix> ilius: beram bioftam be joonesh bebinam chi mishe in bar
[12:11] <ilius> Zpix: arch ro ham age try nakardi bokon ;)
[12:11] <Zpix> :P
[12:11] <Zpix> ilius: ba KDE rabete khoob nadaram akkhe
[12:11] <Zpix> :D
[12:12] <ilius> Zpix: arch che rabti be kde dare?
[12:12] <Zpix> ilius: mage KDE nist desktopesh?
[12:12] <ilius> Zpix: un chakra hast ke kde dare, va ghablan chakra bar asase arch bud
[12:12] <ilius> Zpix: alan moshtaghel hast
[12:12] <Zpix> ilius: e!
[12:13] <Zpix> ilius: arch debian base ?
[12:13] <ilius> Zpix: va arch dar tool e tarikh hich vaght hich desktopi ba khodesh nadashte by default
[12:13] <ilius> Zpix: arch khodesh base e
[12:13] <ilius> Zpix: va vaghti nasb mikoni na gnome dare na kde, az command like hame chi ro khodemun nasb mikonim
[12:13] <Zpix> ilius: software haii ke vase debian hast unja ham yaft mishe?
[12:14] <ilius> Zpix: 100 %
[12:14] <Zpix> ilius: e!
[12:14] <Zpix> ilius: ay dadam vay!
[12:14] <ilius> Zpix: chera :D
[12:14] <Zpix> ilius: 1 hafte bas bishinam software nasb konam un moghe ke
[12:15] <ilius> Zpix: internet et chi?
[12:15] <Zpix> ilius: yani chi?
[12:15] <Zpix> ilius: speed esh?
[12:15] <ilius> Zpix: are
[12:15] <Zpix> ilius: sherkat 512 e
[12:16] <ilius> Zpix: basse
[12:16] <ilius> Zpix: alan tu ubuntui?
[12:16] <Zpix> ilius: are
[12:17] <ilius> Zpix: du -hd 0 /var/cache/apt
[12:18] <ilius> Zpix: خروجی این دستور رو بذار
[12:18] <Zpix> ilius: in kie?
[12:18] <ilius> command e
[12:18] <Zpix> ilius: du: invalid option -- 'd'
[12:19] <ilius> du -h --max-depth 0  /var/cache/apt
[12:19] <Zpix> ilius: 1414M	/var/cache/apt
[12:20] <ilius> kheili ziad nist :D
[12:20] <ilius> 5.2G	/var/cache/pacman/
[12:20] <Zpix> e
[12:21] <Zpix> ilius: pas cheto vase man M gozashte?
[12:22] <ilius> Zpix: hala, 1.5 Gita byte download esh kheili sakht nist, taze lazem nist baraye try kardanesh in hame download koni
[12:22] <ilius> Zpix: fekr mikonam dar kamtar az 1 ruz betune gnome va chizhaye mohem ro nasb koni
[12:22] <ilius> Zpix: goftam ye try bokon
[12:23] <ilius> Zpix: chon mikhasti remaster koni o ina... goftam, vagar na be hame arch ro tosie nemikonam ;)
[12:27] <Zpix> ilius: paydare?
[12:27] <Zpix> ilius: vasate kar naterke ma az kar bioftim
[12:27] <ilius> Zpix: na
[12:28] <Zpix> ilius: update haye system chejoorias?
[12:28] <Zpix> ilius: gnome 3 nasb mishe roosh?
[12:28] <ilius> Zpix: vasate kar na. bad az update e kolli system momkene bekhatere config ha ghat bezane, ye unam rahat mishe bartaraf kard
[12:28] <Zpix> ilius: agha ma kar mikonim ba systememoon monfarej nashe yeho :D
[12:28] <ilius> Zpix: update tarin tozie
[12:28] <Zpix> ilius: rolling update ?
[12:29] <ilius> Zpix: aslan gnome 2 ro dige support nemikone
[12:29] <ilius> Zpix: rolling release
[12:29] <ilius> Zpix: yani ma ba systememun kar nemikonim?? :D
[12:30] <Zpix> :D
[12:30] <Zpix> ilius: amma man dar andisheye in hastam http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/HomePage
[12:31] <ilius> Zpix: varaye server be khobie debian nist (chon paydarish kamtare) vali vaseye desktop be nazare man kheili behtar az debian-based hast
[12:33] <Zpix> ilius: che chizish behtar az debian based ha hast?
[12:33] <ilius> Zpix: chon paydari va update budan ro hamzaman dare
[12:34] <Zpix> ilius: debian ha paydaran ama update boodan ro doreii daran
[12:34] <Zpix> ilius: mesle ubuntu 6 mahe
[12:34] <Zpix> ilius: alan shoma ba arch hasti?
[12:41] <ilius> Zpix: are ro archam
[12:41] <Zpix> ilius: alan kernele arch chie version esh?
[12:42] <ilius> Zpix: rolling release budan va community-based budanesh behtar az debian-based hast
[12:42] <ilius> 2.6.39
[12:43] <Zpix> ilius: amma ba in be rooz boodan che joori momkene paydaram bashe?
[12:43] <ilius> Zpix: albate debian ham community-based hast, vali mesle arch nist ke masalan har kasi betune ye package besaze .. chizi mesle AUR nadare
[12:44] <ilius> Zpix: tu debian majburan az ppa repository ha estefade konan
[12:44] <ilius> Zpix: ke integrated nist
[12:44] <Zpix> ilius: man dar daraje avval tarjih midam ke 1 systeme kamelan azad dashte basham ke baraye in kar http://trisquel.info/en to be ubuntu ham tarjih midam
[12:45] <ilius> Zpix: arch dastet ro kamelan baz mizare
[12:45] <ilius> Zpix: hich chizi ro tahmil nemikone be user
[12:45] <Zpix> ilius: package manager e arch chie? age gnome nasb konam
[12:46] <ilius> Zpix: pacman
[12:47] <ilius> Zpix: interface e dorost darmun nadare
[12:47] <ilius> Zpix: majburi command lini nasb koni hame chi ro
[12:47] <ilius> Zpix: vali khodesh kheili ghavie
[12:48] <Zpix> ilius: che esrari dare be command line ?
[12:49] <ilius> Zpix: che esrari dari be GUI ? :D
[12:49] <Zpix> ilius: dalili nadare vaghti mishe gimp ro ba 1 click nasb kard ba command nasb kard
[12:50] <Zpix> ilius: sudo apt-get install gimp.... hamash too 1 click kholase shode
[12:50] <ilius> Zpix: arch ke officially hich desktopi ro recommend nemikone, vali az desktop haye mokhtalef support mikone. moshkel ine ke chizi mesle synaptic vase pacman naneveshtan chon aksare user haye arch ba command like rahatan
[12:51] <ilius> Zpix: albate baraye kde neveshtan gui e pacman (esmesh shaman hast)
[12:51] <ilius> Zpix: ke ba chakra ship mishe, vali gui e kameli ke ba gtk bashe fekr nakonam bashe
[12:51] <Zpix> ilius: ye seri az tozi haye linux bayad bepaziran ke dorane command dar hale separi shodane
[12:52] <Zpix> ilius: mage in ke morede khasi pish biad
[12:53] <ilius> Zpix: ye click ham ke nist, bayad ru icon e synaptic click koni, password bezani, gimp ro type koni, check esh ro bezani, baad apply bezani o badesh ham tayid koni, khob tu terminal type kon "pacman -S gimp" va ye "y" bezan
[12:53] <ilius> Zpix: kodum rahat tare? albate salighast
[12:54] <Zpix> ilius: man roo synaptic click mikonam, pass nemikhad, gimp ro type mikonam, roo install click mikonam
[12:55] <Zpix> ilius: manzooram naveye synaptic e albate, ubuntu software center
[12:55] <ilius> Zpix: manam terminal baze (ba root) minevisam "pacman -S gimp" baad ye "y" mizanam.
[12:56] <Zpix> ilius: khob inja shoma bayad esme pack ro kamel balad bashi
[12:56] <Zpix> ilius: unja 3 harfe avvalo ke mizani kafie
[12:56] <Zpix> ilius: ya aslan nemidooni daghighan chi mikhay
[12:56] <Zpix> ilius: dasteye system tools ro entekhab mikoni
[12:57] <ilius> :D
[12:57] <ilius> Zpix: taze proxy ham khastam rahat set mikonam ba ye command ghablesh
[12:57] <Zpix> ilius: amma ina vase afradie ke modathast ba linux kar mikonan
[12:57] <ilius> Zpix: search mikonam "pacman -Ss gimp"
[12:57] <Zpix> man gahi bi dalil ba command nasb miknam
[12:57] <Zpix> amma hich user e jadidi in karo nemikone
[12:58] <Zpix> ilius: baraye hamin e ke ubuntu hanooz tozi e mahboobie
[12:59] <ilius> Zpix: command khobish ine ke rahat mishe tekraresh kard
[12:59] <ilius> Zpix: manam nagoftam arch jaye ubuntu ro mitune begire
[13:00] <ilius> Zpix: vali bejaye inke bekhay remestar koni o 6 mah ye bar az avval nasb koni o ... mituni ba command haye pacman kenar biay ... inam ye optioni hast
[13:01] <Zpix> ilius: albate man 6 mah 1 bar nasb nemikonama
[13:01] <Zpix> ilius: upgrade mikonam
[13:03] <ilius> Zpix: khod dani, be har hal option haye mokhtalef ro dar nazar begir, arch ro ye bar nasb mikoni baraye N saal
[13:04] <Zpix> ilius: bebinin chegoone ast!
[13:04] <Zpix> ilius: be har hal tnx for information
[13:04] <Zpix> ilius: va komak
[13:05] <ilius> Zpix: khahesh
[14:04] <everplays> ilius, salaam dude, avalash badi nabood, alaan dige bad roo asabe, hamash chert-o pert miporsan
[14:05] <everplays> kollan har chizi ro filter mikonan behtar-e :D
[14:05] <everplays> inam ta vaghti filter bood khozaval toosh nemiporsidan
[14:22] <ilius> everplays: manfi bedid khob dige chert o pert naporsan
[14:22] <everplays> man ke tep tep manfi midam hehe
[14:22] <ilius> :D
[14:23] <ilius> everplays: khube in design esh dare mod mishe yavash yavash
[14:24] <ilius> everplays: http://www.question2answer.org/ ro ke didi?
[14:24] <everplays> design ke nakarde vali rang bandish khoobe
[14:24] <everplays> na, ilius , alaan mibinam
[14:24] <ilius> everplays: na sabkesh manzurame
[14:24] <everplays> ow
[14:24] <ilius> everplays: sabke stack exchange
[14:24] <everplays> are
[14:25] <everplays> ilius, script-e ooni ke danatarin estefade mikone python-e dude :)
[14:25] <ilius> everplays: eee che jaleb
[14:26] <ilius> everplays: mikhastam beporsam software esh chi hast
[14:26] <ilius> kash release ham shode bud
[14:27] <ilius> ye clone e free az stack exchange ba python va makhsusan django bud kheili ali mishod
[14:27] <ilius> in question2answer, GPL e, vali php e
[14:27] <ilius> vali baz behtar az hichie :D
[14:29] <everplays> chera haji fekr konam release ham shode
[14:29] <everplays> beza begardam
[14:33] <everplays> ilius, http://www.osqa.net/
[15:23] <ilius> everplays: eyval python va GPL :D
[15:23] <ilius> everplays: va under develop
[15:23] <ilius> 0.9.0-beta3
[15:23] <ilius> aalie
[15:24] <everplays> hehe :D tabligh mikonia
[15:24] <everplays> lol
[15:24] <ilius> taze ba django ham neveshte shode
[15:24] <ilius> perfect
[15:25] <ilius> be sameer neshun bedam
[15:26] <ilius> everplays: haji damet garm, emruzam behtar az diruzam shod
[15:27] <everplays> ilius, mokhlesam shadid, va joda az oon mikhamet. ham khodeto ham python-eto :D
[15:27] <ilius> :D
[20:12] <Mattew> salam doostan
[20:12] <Mattew> ye soal dashtam
[20:13] <Mattew> mishe yeki rahnamayim kone?
[20:13] <Mattew> !
[20:14] <Mattew> ???
[22:14] <naderch> salam