[00:00] <cyperbg> Chipzzz please see this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/562423/comments/11
[00:00] <cyperbg> that's what I did
[00:00] <Padge> As I understand it, Samba doesn't come preinstalled with Linux
[00:00] <coldpizza72i> how do you install deb at comand line
[00:00] <html-inprogress> helpinghand,  i will be talking only to you for a while just look for my name when i talk to you ,,,,
[00:00] <Padge> so I get and install the package
[00:00] <coldpizza72i> .deb
[00:00] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: it's such a strange problem that i wouldn't rule out that possibility
[00:00] <aaron_c> hi, is there a more efficient way to do "cat logs/processcampaigns16.log | tail -n 1" for large files?
[00:00] <iAmerikan> coldpizza72i: sudo dpkg -i package
[00:00] <Padge> Browse to network -> Windows Network, and it's empty
[00:00] <Padge> Am I missing some steps?
[00:01] <mickster04> hey guys, does anyone know if bluray players work with ubuntu, I haven't had success in he past (about 6 months ago)
[00:01] <Padge> By linux I mean Ubuntu
[00:01] <linusA> the problem is this. sometimes pulse audio crashes and when it respawns it just uses a default boot
[00:01] <mickster04> pesstoss: try installing samba first, one way is to try and share a foder, then uibuntu tells you what to install :)
[00:02] <keyboardtalk> infinity_: is smb a NAS protocol?
[00:02] <Padge> What is needed to make windows shares available to nautilus?
[00:02] <bernice> aaron_c; i think you can do tail -n 1 filename
[00:03] <Yeti_69> !fr
[00:03] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: although it would seem highly unlikely
[00:03] <infinity_> keyboardtalk: yes
[00:04] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I removed my modifications by this guide and restarted again
[00:04] <keyboardtalk> infinity_: the instructions for osx indicate to use an address of the form "smb://PRINTERNAME"
[00:04] <mrdopeman> i need help. my menubar /top panel is gone. but i can still access the menus by alt-f1. how do i fix that? ubuntu 10.10
[00:05] <mrdopeman> i googled but none of the tips i found worked
[00:05] <mrdopeman> the panel seems to be invisible, not gone, dont know
[00:06] <khjdskj> hello
[00:06] <infinity_> keyboardtalk: okay. use the cmd: mount -t cifs \\2.2.2.2\sharename
[00:06] <khjdskj> anybody?
[00:06] <infinity_> keyboardtalk: i think thats corect...
[00:06] <infinity_> keyboardtalk: google or rtfm
[00:06] <bernice> hi khjdskj
[00:06] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: did it work?
[00:07] <rileyp> Hi I've botched up my v4l drivers how can i make them standard again
[00:07] <cyperbg> Chipzzz, no
[00:07] <cyperbg> I want to kills myself
[00:07] <pesstoss> danke euch allen! bye
[00:07] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: groan
[00:07] <cyperbg> I've been trying to setup Ubuntu for the past 5 days
[00:07] <Padge> Is it conventional to tell people to RTFM in a support channel?
[00:07] <rileyp> I attemped a make  and amke install and it didnt go well
[00:07] <cyperbg> I've reinstalled it 4 times already
[00:07] <mrdopeman> someone pls help me
[00:07] <cyperbg> and when I load it Live - it works
[00:08] <cyperbg> but after I installed it the wifi doesn't work
[00:08] <mrdopeman> i need help. my menubar/top panel is gone. but i can still access the menus by alt-f1. how do i fix that? ubuntu 10.10
[00:08] <bernice> rileyp: you can start over with this: make clean
[00:08] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: i remember having a similar problem with a ralink pci modem one time and it was very finnicky but ultimately worked
[00:08] <bernice> make clean removes any files created by configure and make
[00:09] <rileyp> bernice in which dir do I need to be?
[00:09] <Kazilla> cyperbg, i normally use usb adapters and it works fine
[00:09] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I think of reinstalling everything again and try to locate the exact step after which the connection goes haywire
[00:09] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: i don't remember the specific problem but do remember that it had to do with the encryption not persisting between boots
[00:09] <rileyp> as I have deleted the v4l I dl as it was the wrong one
[00:09] <cyperbg> so any other suggestions before reinstaling for the 5th time?
[00:09] <brewster> mrdopeman: try this: make a new launcher on the desktop and for the command put compiz --replace
[00:09] <bernice> rileyp: in the directory that has the README and TODO files, etc
[00:09] <brewster> that worked for me a while back
[00:10] <rileyp> bernice as I have deleted the v4l I dl as it was the wrong one
[00:10] <terry_> cyperbg: what does iwconfig say?
[00:10] <rileyp> bernice so i need to dl the correct one
[00:10] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: nothing comes immediately to mind
[00:10] <terry_> cyperbg: ... let me scroll up a bit....
[00:10] <Kazilla> cyperbg: why are you reinstalling? has it worked before?
[00:10] <rileyp> and am having trouble finding it...
[00:10] <nakanut> are there any good AVCHD codecs out there?
[00:10] <mrdopeman> how do i make a new launcher?
[00:10] <terry_> cyperbg: I dont think installing again will help...
[00:10] <cyperbg> IEEE 802.11bgn ESSIS: CYPER
[00:10] <brewster> right click the desktop
[00:10] <cyperbg> Mode: Managed
[00:10] <linusA> my solution was to edit /etc/client.conf. I was missing this file. I found a default and uncommented the line autospaw =  yes and change to no. Also be sure to unclick in startup applications
[00:10] <rileyp> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers#Retrieving_and_Building.2FCompiling_the_Latest_V4L-DVB_Source_Code
[00:10] <cyperbg> Power management: off
[00:11] <mrdopeman> nothing happens when i right click the desktop
[00:11] <brewster> hmm then open up a terminal and type that
[00:11] <brewster> compiz --replace
[00:11] <mrdopeman> also the main menu in control panel doesnt work
[00:11] <mrdopeman> ok ill try
[00:11] <rileyp> bernice,  I tried her but get lost at this step   make tar DIR=<some dir with media -git tree>
[00:11] <brewster> then push ctrl+alt+t
[00:11] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: nothing about frequency, Access point... any of that?
[00:11] <cyperbg> Kazilla> it worked great before one restart. It also works when I load a Live CD of Ubuntu
[00:12] <rileyp> bernice,  as I dont know what dir    ...Im embarressed
[00:12] <cyperbg> Frequence: 2.462 Ghz
[00:12] <cyperbg> Access Point: there is MAC address here
[00:12] <cyperbg> Link quality: 38/70
[00:12] <Kazilla> cyperbg: what does rfkill list all say?
[00:12] <cyperbg> Signal Level: -72dBm
[00:13] <mrdopeman> brewster the menubar popped up for a second then disappeared
[00:13] <brewster> mrdopeman: did it work?
[00:13] <brewster> for ctrl+alt+t?
[00:13] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: -72dBm is pretty weak
[00:13] <bernice> rileyp: the step cd media_build/linux should take you to the correct directory
[00:13] <mrdopeman> for the compiz --replace
[00:13] <cyperbg> 0: phy0: Wireless Lan
[00:13] <no_face> i've just compiled wine and a few patches in my home folder... how do i now start that wine version?
[00:13] <cyperbg> Soft and hard blocked: no
[00:13] <bernice> rileyp: is that step is completing successfully?
[00:13] <Cydd> no_face you excited man?
[00:13] <Kazilla> well you know the hardware's not being blocked
[00:13] <terry_> cyperbg: As Chipzzz states, -72 is not good.
[00:14] <Kazilla> hmm
[00:14] <terry_> cyperbg: Is this a Desktop computer or a Laptop?
[00:14] <brewster> mrdopeman: have you tried upgrading to ubuntu 11.04? you don't get that problem anymore there
[00:14] <cyperbg> Chipzzz that is not the problem I'm certain
[00:14] <cyperbg> Desktop
[00:14] <terry_> cyperbg: So the netwrok interface is a USB device of some sort?
[00:15] <terry_> cyperbg: What exactly is it?
[00:15] <rileyp> bernice I dont know what dir to point it to? do I just create one?
[00:15] <cyperbg> TP-Link TL-WN821N
[00:15] <cyperbg> the ubuntu website says it should use ar9170usb
[00:15] <cyperbg> but the connection information says for driver only usb
[00:16] <rileyp> rileyp: the step cd media_build/linux should take you to the correct directory sorry I ddint see that
[00:16] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: lsmod shows ar9170usb?
[00:16] <rileyp> bernice, he step cd media_build/linux should take you to the correct directory sorry I ddint see that
[00:16] <terry_> cyperbg: Wired is better. Do you have an ethernet device and can you use it instead?
[00:16] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[00:17] <bernice> rileyp: its ok
[00:17] <rileyp> bernice,  Im still confused as to what dir to direct it too
[00:17] <Kazilla> cyperbg: what happens when you try to bring the interface up?
[00:17] <mrdopeman> brewster had to reboot
[00:17] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I can't seem to locate it in the long list of lsmod
[00:17] <brewster> ok
[00:17] <mrdopeman> i cannt use ubuntu 11.04
[00:17] <cyperbg> is it supposed to be in the left, right or middle column
[00:17] <brewster> why?
[00:17] <mrdopeman> i need nvidia-96
[00:18] <Cydd> cyperbg you happy?
[00:18] <mrdopeman> its broken in 11.04
[00:18] <cyperbg> no I'm sad
[00:18] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: lsmod | grep ar9170usb
[00:18] <Cydd> that you can finally get married in New York
[00:18] <Padge> Who here likes Unity?
[00:18]  * Kazilla looks at all the sad faces
[00:18] <brewster> mrdopeman: there is a newer version for nvidia. can you use that?
[00:18] <mrdopeman> no
[00:18] <louis_> hi, is anyone has problem with resized window in classic theme? for me some window leaves black square at th top left corner. Covers the menus the bar.
[00:18] <Padge> Who here hates Unity?
[00:18] <brewster> hmm
[00:18] <mrdopeman> im stuck with 10.10
[00:19] <bernice> rileyp: did you run this step: git clone git://linuxtv.org/media_build.git
[00:19] <wildgoose> !poll | Padge
[00:19] <cyperbg> Chipzzz doesn't return anything lsmod | grep ar9170usb
[00:19] <mrdopeman> is there no way to fix the stupid menubar?
[00:19] <mrdopeman> cant be that hard
[00:19] <rileyp> bernice yes
[00:19] <terry_> cyperbg: What is the ouput of the command   lsmod |grep ar9170  ?
[00:19] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: then it didn't load the module
[00:19] <Padge> I apologize
[00:19] <brewster> try typing gnome-session --replace
[00:19] <cyperbg> how can I load it manually?
[00:19] <brewster> i think that's the command
[00:20] <terry_> cyperbg: sudo modprobe ar9170usb
[00:20] <gsr> I've been searching google file a while now, but I can't find an answer.  What's the difference between libapache2-mod-php5 and libapache2-mod-php5filter?
[00:20] <Padge> What is needed to be able to browse SMB shares hosted on Windows systems from Nautilus?
[00:20] <mrdopeman> unknown option --replace
[00:20] <Toten-Schalter> Padge .. i chose to not use it my self .
[00:20] <brewster> ok
[00:20] <brewster> hold on
[00:20] <Kazilla> Padge: type smb:\\
[00:20] <Kazilla> like http
[00:21] <Kazilla> its forwardslah or backslash cant reemmber
[00:21] <Padge> Kazilla: I had forgotten that.  Is there any reason browsing through the "Network -> Windows Network" doesn't work?  Is it even supposed to work like that?
[00:21] <louis_> i think canonical did too many changes in 11.04 not all things checked properly :)
[00:21] <coldpizza72i> here we go again....my computer crashed, i cant ping it, but the fan at the very lesast is still on
[00:22] <mrdopeman> brewster
[00:22] <mrdopeman> i fixed it
[00:22] <Kazilla> i don't know how ubuntu reconises WINS / netBIOS, however i always just connect directly
[00:22] <brewster> what did you do?
[00:22] <cyperbg> terry_  sudo modprobe ar9170usb returned an emtpty line, but after that when I typed lsmod | grep ar9170usb it got me 3 lines
[00:22] <mrdopeman> gnome-panel --replace
[00:22] <cyperbg> which were missing before
[00:22] <brewster> that's what i was looking for
[00:22] <cyperbg> shall I restart?
[00:22] <mrdopeman> all back to normal
[00:22] <terry_> cyperbg: No, do not restart.
[00:23] <terry_> cyperbg: Try to connect.
[00:23] <mrdopeman> thank you anyways brewster
[00:23] <brewster> np
[00:23] <mrdopeman> you happen to know bitchx?
[00:23] <mrdopeman> i have a problem with that too
[00:23] <terry_> cyperbg: are you using the network-manager?
[00:23] <brewster> the irc client?
[00:23] <mrdopeman> yes
[00:23] <brewster> no not really
[00:23] <infinity_> mrdopeman: heh. good riddence
[00:23] <chouchou> Hello good mornign, pls how do I send email via my ubuntu PC?
[00:23] <mrdopeman> it keeps disconnecting
[00:24] <cyperbg> terry_ I reconnected but still no ping to my Windows machine
[00:24] <brewster> i myself use kvirc
[00:24] <cyperbg> I believe I am using the network manager
[00:24] <mrdopeman> is there some anti-idle i can enable?
[00:24] <Kazilla> !email
[00:24] <chouchou> I am using ubuntu via VMware and I wan my php applications to be able to send emails
[00:24] <mrdopeman> in bitchx?
[00:24] <brewster> hmm
[00:24] <terry_> cyperbg: Can you ping your router?
[00:24] <chouchou> !email
[00:24] <brewster> oh no that's the irc client i use
[00:24] <mrdopeman> its just bitchx its no network problem
[00:24] <chouchou> ok
[00:24] <mrdopeman> infinity do you know bitchx?
[00:25] <cyperbg> terry_ no i can't ping my router and the Connection Information still says Driver: usb
[00:25] <cyperbg> the funny thing is everything works great when I load it Live from a USB flash drive
[00:26] <Flannel> mrdopeman: bitchX has been removed from the repositories (a long while ago) because the developers weren't supporting it.
[00:26] <cyperbg> and now it is installed on a usb flash drive
[00:26] <Padge> So, nautilus is not displaying SMB shares that exist.  Is this a common problem?
[00:26] <mrdopeman> Flannel i have installed it from universe repo
[00:26] <mrdopeman> it works fine except it disconnects when idle over 1min
[00:26] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: modprobe will load the module but you need to know the parameters for it to be useful once loaded
[00:27] <mrdopeman> i love it for sentimental reasons
[00:27] <BondMan> hey
[00:27] <Cydd> mrdopeman
[00:27] <Flannel> mrdopeman: What version of Ubuntu are you using? 6.06?
[00:27] <Cydd> can you change your name?
[00:27] <mrdopeman> why ?
[00:27] <Kazilla> !thunderbird | chouchou
[00:27] <BondMan> everytime i try to install anything i get the same error, can someone take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/etL9X0z6
[00:27] <Cydd> umm
[00:27] <Cydd> i want it :\
[00:27] <cntb> anyone knows by chance how to get to life a radarmap on weather report in panel ?
[00:28] <brewster> rofl
[00:28] <coldpizza72i> how can i tell if my gpu's are healthy
[00:28] <coldpizza72i> im ssh'ed in
[00:28] <mrdopeman> you can have it later
[00:28] <mrdopeman> its regged to someone else on freenode anyway
[00:28] <brewster> rofl
[00:28] <mrdopeman> but he/she never uses it
[00:28] <Flannel> mrdopeman: What version of Ubuntu are you using? 6.06?
[00:28] <mrdopeman> 10.10
[00:28] <chouchou> Kazilla, can I make my php script send mail through tunderbird?
[00:29] <Flannel> mrdopeman: bitchX isn't in 10.10
[00:29] <terry_> cyperbg: Can you imporve the location and try again?
[00:29] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I'm not that advanced with Lunux
[00:29] <mrdopeman> yeah i know its not officially part of 10.10
[00:29] <Kazilla> chouchou: you are a lucky man, because today i have been doing the exact same thing as you
[00:29] <coldpizza72i> i think my gpu crashed, how could i tell
[00:29] <coldpizza72i> ?
[00:29] <louis_> guys what the hell is causing my black squares in 11.04? classic theme no effects... few window leaves it after resize
[00:29] <chouchou> ah, thanks,
[00:29] <cyperbg> terry_ I'm going to load the live CD and check again if everything is fine
[00:29] <brewster> mrdopeman: try out kvirc4.
[00:29] <brewster> it's a really great irc client
[00:30] <mrdopeman> brewster i think installing acrobat reader nuked the menubar
[00:30] <cyperbg> and terry_ I got downloads at full speed when using the machine 10 minutes before this problem
[00:30] <cyperbg> the location is fine
[00:30] <Kazilla> chouchou: i got it to work using msmtp
[00:30] <mrdopeman> brewster i want bitchx for sentimental reasons and to use my 11yr old scripts
[00:30] <chouchou> Kazilla,  with msmtp, will you need to use an external mail server? or local one?
[00:31] <mrdopeman> if the one from unverse repo keep failing ill compile from source again
[00:31] <Cydd> watch your language mrdopeman
[00:31] <mrdopeman> Cydd???
[00:31] <terry_> cyperbg: Yes, load the liveCD again and compare.
[00:31] <Cydd> you said a bad word
[00:31] <Kazilla> chouchou: yes you need to use an external smtp server
[00:31] <mrdopeman> its name of a program
[00:31] <Padge> Is there another channel where Ubuntu is supported?
[00:31] <compdoc> bitchx is an irc program
[00:31] <coldpizza72i> how could you tell if a headless gpu is working properly?
[00:31] <mrdopeman> BitchX = IRC client
[00:32] <cordell> Cydd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitchX
[00:32] <terry_> cyperbg: Is this a 11.04 install?
[00:32] <chouchou> Kazilla, ok, currently my hosting account is getting expired, can I use google ?
[00:32] <cyperbg> yes terry_, 11.04 install
[00:32] <terry_> cyperbg: Is it fully updated?
[00:32] <cntb> misunderstanding  mrdopeman Cydd true name of a prog
[00:32] <chouchou> google mail? do they provide SMTP ?
[00:32] <louis_> yes
[00:32] <cyperbg> no, I haven't updated it, but why would that matter when the Live CD has no connection issues?
[00:32] <tonyyarusso> chouchou: How do you think they would provide an e-mail service without it?
[00:33] <Kazilla> chouchou: i think google and yahoo do yeah
[00:33] <mrdopeman> what is the correct way to install acrobat reader in 10.10 ?
[00:33] <cyperbg> terry_ I've used this guide http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10608.0
[00:33] <terry_> cyperbg: Is it possible to connect to wired network long enough to do updates?
[00:33] <chouchou> ok
[00:33] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[00:33] <mrdopeman> it seems adobes installer was what killed my menubar
[00:33] <tonyyarusso> cyperbg: Do you really *need* Acrobat?  Is there a particular reason Evince won't work for you?
[00:33] <Kazilla> chouchou: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/18/howto-send-emailsusing-mail-function-from-localhost-in-php-through-msmtp-using-gmail-account-on-linux/
[00:33] <cyperbg> terry_ - I have no problems updating, because when I fresh install it there are no connection issues
[00:33] <cordell> or okular?
[00:33] <louis_> i specially love the ubuntu doc viewer its fu.ing fast :)
[00:33] <brewster> mrdopeman: I had 10.10 and that taskbar thing seemed to be normal
[00:33] <terry_> cyperbg: If the liveCD connects ok, the 11.04 install should connect ok as well after updates.  Before updates, all bets are off.
[00:34] <mrdopeman> i just wondered coz adobe is gone from menu
[00:34] <chouchou> ok
[00:35] <terry_> cyperbg: You have no problems updating?  (Yet you say that you have not done updates yet?
[00:35] <tucemiux> hey anyone here ever used sniper???
[00:35] <mrdopeman> also the "Main  Menu" control panel is still not working i just noticed
[00:35] <gry> !anyone | tucemiux
[00:35] <cordell> !offtopic | tucemiux
[00:35] <tucemiux> hey anyone here ever used sniper??? I
[00:35] <brewster> try the command again
[00:35] <brewster> or switch to failsafe mode
[00:35] <Cydd> brewster
[00:36] <tucemiux> hey anyone here ever used sniper??? IM  trying to figure out if sniper can bid automatically for you up to a maximum amount
[00:36] <cyperbg> terry_ I haven't updates because I skipped that - maybe I should have - it was a personal choice
[00:36] <brewster> Cydd: yes :]
[00:36] <cyperbg> terry_ the LIve CD works great
[00:36] <cyperbg> you can connect if you want
[00:36] <Cydd> :D
[00:36] <cyperbg> using Remote Desktop Viwer
[00:36] <BondMan> everytime i try to install anything i get the same error, can someone take a look at it? http://pastebin.com/etL9X0z6
[00:37] <brewster> Cydd: did you need something?
[00:37] <terry_> cyperbg: My suggestion is to conect to the wired network and do updates.
[00:37] <keyboardtalk> infinity_: cifs was not working, I installed smbfs, now mounts fine with cifs
[00:38] <Cydd> just acknowledgement BondMan
[00:38] <cyperbg> terry_ - the problem is in the wireless connection when the Ubuntu is installed on the drive. When using the Live CD there are no connection issues. Why would updating has to do anything with my problem?
[00:39] <cyperbg> do you want to connect and have a look?
[00:39] <cyperbg> yiu can access it from the internet
[00:39] <Padge> So, I can ping Google, but I can't ping my Windows machine which is on the same switch
[00:39] <cafezim> hi
[00:40] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: it's behind your router... is it forwarded?
[00:40] <cafezim> I want to help programming
[00:40] <cafezim> I am good at java
[00:40] <terry_> BondMan: try apt-get -f install
[00:40] <ale`> hi, I cannot watch dvds using totem in 10.04. Any good tutorial?
[00:40] <cafezim> anyone need Java
[00:40] <cafezim> ?
[00:40] <terry_> BondMan: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:40] <cyperbg> Chipzzz of course it is, how else would you see it from the Internet?
[00:40] <BondMan> terry_: i get that with everyinstall
[00:41] <BondMan> terry_: there must be a problem
[00:41] <cyperbg> Chipzzz and also you don't need forwarding when connecting locally, but that is not the problem
[00:41] <terry_> cyperbg: Do updates.
[00:41] <Kazilla> cafezim: i'm sure theres alot of people in ##java that need help cafezim!
[00:41] <cyperbg> the problem is the stupid Ubuntu doesn't want to talk properly with my USB dongle wwhen it is installed on a hard drive
[00:41] <maco> cafezim:  "apt-cache rdepends openjdk-6-jre" should tell you what packages use java in ubuntu, then you can look them up on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and see if there's anything that needs to be fixed in them that you can handle. #ubuntu-motu can help you get your patches in
[00:41] <thewarrenterror> can anyone recommend a good text editor for the bash shell?  Not vi, or vim - so far I like pico the best for C coding but even that's not really doin it for me.
[00:42] <cyperbg> terry_ I really appreciate your help so far but there is no logic in thinking that doing updates will fix the issue
[00:42] <cyperbg> the LIVE CD has no updates and it works just fine
[00:42] <louis_> is there a channel for desktop issues?
[00:42] <terry_> cyperbg: After you do updates, come back and we will help you further.
[00:42] <ArTiSTiX> hi there, i'm asking for help to turn my bluetooth on... i got a "Connection timed out" issue since 4 hours..
[00:43] <Maylow> hi
[00:43] <Maylow> is there a way to start/commit/rollback a transaction on an ext4 fs?
[00:43] <cyperbg> terry_ can you at least give me a logical reason why doing updates will change anything?
[00:43] <tiejohn> 大家好。
[00:43] <maco> !cn | tiejohn
[00:44] <Maylow> e.g. I start a transaction from cmd, do some mods on the fs, rollback the transaction and all mods are gone
[00:44] <almoxarife> ale`: you need 'medibuntu' the reasons will be obvious
[00:45] <ale`> I have medibuntu
[00:45] <manco1911> hi guys
[00:45] <terry_> cyperbg: If you think that "there is no logic in thinking that doing updates will fix the issue", I don't know what to tell you accetp that you need to defy your personal logic, (because YOUR logic is flawed).
[00:45] <ale`> almoxarife: I have medibuntu and codecs
[00:46] <almoxarife> ale`: just in case, you have not been able to see dvds ever?
[00:46] <BondMan> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo depmod -a
[00:46] <BondMan> Bus error
[00:46] <BondMan> how do i fix this?
[00:47] <cyperbg> terry_ why would the LIve CD has no connection issue then? Does it have any updates?
[00:47] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: i think he means to update the hard disk installation with a wired connection
[00:47] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I can update wirelessly
[00:47] <terry_> cyperbg: Do you understand that the liveCD and the actual install are two different systems?  They are similar but not same.
[00:48] <terry_> Chipzzz: Yes, that is what I said.
[00:48] <cyperbg> when I do a fresh install the wireless works for a while untill a couple of restart later...
[00:48] <terry_> cyperbg: Obviously you can not, because you say that you are unable to connect wirelessly.  Right?  Is that not your issue?
[00:49] <ale`> yes in vlc
[00:49] <terry_> cyperbg: My suggestion is to conect to the wired network and do updates.
[00:49] <cyperbg> terry_, that is my issue but not straight after fresh installation
[00:49] <cyperbg> it takes a while for the problem to show up
[00:49] <ale`> but gotta go... sorry. thanks almoxarife
[00:49] <cyperbg> I can connect wireless after a fresh installation
[00:50] <cyperbg> but 3-4 restarts later I can't
[00:50] <BondMan> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo depmod -a
[00:50] <BondMan> Bus error
[00:50] <BondMan> how to fix this
[00:50] <louis_> black squares on desktop? after window resized?
[00:50] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: sorry... you're right... and when the wireless stops working the name of the usb device changes, right?
[00:51] <kdk995509383kkdd> i can search pdf files for a word with acrobat reader. is there something open source that can do the same
[00:51] <chouchou> Kazilla, thanks a lot, it's working now
[00:51] <terry_> BondMan: sudo ldconfig
[00:51] <cyperbg> Chipzzz yes in this case
[00:51] <chouchou> astounding result, using google mail
[00:52] <BondMan> terry_: ok done
[00:52] <BondMan> terry_: after that?
[00:52] <terry_> BondMan: depmod -a
[00:52] <terry_> BondMan: sudo depmod -a
[00:52] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I will reinstall again and monitor closely after which step I get the problem. That is my lasr resort
[00:52] <almoxarife> kdk995509383kkdd: evince will
[00:53] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: the answer should still be in your logs
[00:53] <asger> I need help with bios. I need to restore grub. Possibly by using rescatux on a usb. But i need help with that
[00:53] <BondMan> terry_: same rror
[00:53] <Kazilla> chouchou: glad to hear it! took me a while to scour the interwebs to get the right tutorial
[00:53] <Kazilla> but that one is nice
[00:53] <auero> I accidentally changed the permission on another drive for lost+found. How can I change it back to the default?
[00:53] <BondMan> terry_: error
[00:53] <PauseBazinga> kdk995509383kkdd, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software
[00:54] <kdk995509383kkdd> almoxarife: is there a program that can search multiple pdf files for a word
[00:54] <terry_> BondMan: Is this an 11.04 install?
[00:54] <BondMan> terry_: its a 10.10
[00:54] <almoxarife> kdk995509383kkdd: not sure
[00:54] <terry_> BondMan: What did  apt-get -f install   do?
[00:54] <BondMan> terry_: same thing
[00:54] <BondMan> terry_: i cant even upgrade
[00:55] <BondMan> cause of depmod problem
[00:55] <vandemar> kdk995509383kkdd: pdftotext, which is part of poppler, can convert pdf to text, basically dumping any text embedded in the pdf into a text file, which will be searchable.  also any notable file search software should be able to search pdf text
[00:56] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: if you look in your messages logs, you should see that in the beginning the kernel was recognizing the dongle correctly and after a few boots it did not
[00:56] <shade34321> I have a web server using ubuntu server, the hardware is constantly failing and I want to transfer the site to another computer with ubuntu on it. Is there a easy way of transferring the programs from one server to other?
[00:57] <terry_> BondMan: Is this a new install?
[00:57] <PauseBazinga> kdk995509383kkdd, according to http://linux.die.net/man/1/evince you can also search multiple files with Evince
[00:57] <BondMan> yes
[00:57] <takoski> hi
[00:57] <BondMan> terry_:
[00:57] <tonyyarusso> !cloning | shade34321
[00:57] <terry_> BondMan: Did you do updates after the initial install?
[00:57] <takoski> linkword how i can set my compiz?
[00:57] <BondMan> terry_: yes
[00:57] <BondMan> terry_: the upgrade of the kernel fails
[00:57] <takoski> linkword2 how i can set my compiz?
[00:58] <terry_> BondMan: And that completed normally?
[00:58] <BondMan> yes
[00:58] <shade34321> cool...thanks...i have another question about ip route able...but ill ask that in a bit
[00:58] <takoski> linksword2 how i can set my compiz?
[00:58] <cyperbg> Chipzzz I started a new installation, should take about 30-40 minutes. If you are stil here I will report back
[00:59] <asger> How do i get rescatux on an usb stick?
[01:00] <IdleOne> asger: check rescatux website, this is #ubuntu
[01:00] <takoski> hi how i can set my compiz?
[01:00] <terry_> BondMan:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:00] <takoski> 11.04
[01:01] <shade34321> ubottu: I got this error when running your command
[01:01] <shade34321> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:01] <shade34321> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:01] <shade34321> E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression
[01:01] <asger> IdleOne, yeah, i tryed, but i couldnt figure it out. Just wanted to see if someone in here could help me. I know its a ubuntu channel
[01:01] <shade34321> rofl
[01:01] <takoski> hi how i can set my compiz with 11.04
[01:01] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: although frustrating, the problem is interesting... i'll try to hang around
[01:02] <Kazilla> shade34321: rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:02] <ZykoticK9> shade34321, close any U.S.C, Synaptic or Update windows - then try again.
[01:02] <Kazilla> that'll fix it
[01:03] <cyperbg> thank you Chipzzz
[01:03] <rileyp> anyone help me do a  clean install of v4l and remove all old vld stuff
[01:03] <shade34321> i kind of figured that one...but the regex error is what has me stuck
[01:03] <brightspark> I dual-boot with 10.10 and Windows 7 pro, both 64-bit.  Sometimes when I save a tex file in ubuntu (using texmaker) on the Windows partition (so the pdf compiles to a Windows-accessible location), when I switch back to ubuntu the file is overwritten with garbage.  How can I stop this?
[01:04] <Cydd> okay WEIRD QUESTION, but is there such thing as a "people smoking infront of the camera" fetish???
[01:05] <Kazilla> !offtopic
[01:05] <Cydd> KAZILLA!
[01:05] <Zorg> tucemiux: hey I made some progress and can now log into the ubuntu account now, would you still recommend reinstalling grub? : P
[01:06] <Benkinooby> hi, my system crashed and i want to read the logs... dmesg only gives me messages after boot... how can i read the logs before i had to shut down the system?
[01:07] <tsimpson> Benkinooby: the previous logs should have numbers appended to the end of the file name, so /var/log/dmesg.0 /var/log/dmesg.1 etc (some may be gzipped too)
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, /var/log/messages
[01:09] <Starminn> Ah... Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :)
[01:09] <Benkinooby> tsimpson, dmesg.0 is not it... i checked the log before the crash and they went up to the time 204 ... dmesg.0 unly goes to 23
[01:09] <tsimpson> Benkinooby: check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages dmesg is only written to for a short while
[01:09] <tsimpson> and /var/log/kernlog
[01:10] <louis_> hi, the java chat window has ancient look. how can i change it?
[01:11] <Benkinooby> tsimpson, didn't know about the dmesg shot time thing...
[01:12] <ArTiSTiX> nobody has ever solved bluetooth issue - "Can't init device hci0: Connection timed out (110)" ? thx
[01:12] <Kazilla> !irc-clients | louis_
[01:12] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: still around?
[01:13] <brightspark> I dual-boot with 10.10 and Windows 7 pro, both 64-bit.  Sometimes when I save a tex file in ubuntu (using texmaker) on the Windows partition (so the pdf compiles to a Windows-accessible location), when I switch back to ubuntu the file is overwritten with garbage.  How can I stop this?
[01:13] <brightspark> I can provide an example overwritten file if desired.
[01:13] <louis_> sorry guys forgot to tell it is in firefox a java window...
[01:15] <Maimster> How's everyone.
[01:17] <Kazilla> brightspark: chances are the program you are opening the file with in windows is making the file a format texmaker can't read. try saving in different formats in windows, and see if there are different results.
[01:17] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit, Banshee version is the latest stable (I think 2.0.1?))
[01:18] <brightspark> Kazilla,  I don't open it in Windows; just the pdf already compiled on ubuntu.
[01:18] <Padge> Is this a good place to ask questions about Samba?
[01:18] <Kazilla> Padge you may want to try #samba
[01:18] <Padge> I can't get my Windows shares to show up in nautilus, but they show up when I type: smbclient -L 192.168.0.102
[01:19] <Padge> followed by a bunch of "session request to ... failed"
[01:19] <louis_> someone knows why is a java chat window looks ancient in firefox?
[01:19] <Guest16829> hello?
[01:20] <Guest16829> I'm new to IRC
[01:20] <cyperbg> Chipzzz, yes
[01:20] <cyperbg> it is still installing
[01:20] <Guest16829> I'm using something called ircii
[01:20] <Kazilla> louis_: use an irc client instead of a java window, if you do not like the looks
[01:20] <Starminn> louis_: I agree with Kazilla
[01:20] <Guest16829> and I don't understand how to be in mulitple channels :S
[01:21] <Padge> Guest16829: Are you using a web-based IRC client?
[01:21] <sudokill> Guest16829, look on their website or something for docs
[01:21] <Guest16829> I'm using IRCii which is in the terminal
[01:21] <louis_> kazilla: an irc client? how can i do that? that is a internet based chat... i am not used to irc
[01:22] <Kazilla> !irc-clients | louis_
[01:22] <sudokill> louis_, theres a program called xchat that is easy to use
[01:22] <Padge> Guest16829: You can join many channels using IRCii, but switching between them is something I never learned how to do
[01:22] <Kazilla> chatzilla is a nice one for firefox
[01:22] <Padge> Guest16829: Do you have any particular aversion to a GUI?  Being in multiple channels is something that lends itself to a GUI.
[01:23] <louis_> and chatzilla can connect with my login details to the internet chat?
[01:23] <green91> bitchx for life!
[01:23] <Starminn> !offtopic
[01:23] <Kazilla> louis_: yes
[01:23] <szal> green91: BitchX is dead
[01:24] <Padge> Starminn: What exactly makes a question on-topic?  Do we have to confine our questions to the kernel itself?
[01:24] <green91> szal: yeah i know :(
[01:24] <brightspark> I dual-boot with 10.10 and Windows 7 pro, both 64-bit.  Sometimes when I save a tex file in ubuntu (using texmaker) on the Windows partition (so the pdf compiles to a Windows-accessible location), when I switch back to ubuntu the file is overwritten with garbage.  How can I stop this?
[01:24] <brightspark> I can provide an example overwritten file if desired.
[01:25] <cesc39> hi guys. I have a dual boot desktop pc with ubuntu 10.04 and win7. I'd like to sort out the garbage that my GRUB menu is at the moment. How do I do it?
[01:25] <szal> Pathin: don't IRC as root..
[01:25] <rhin0> cesc39 I think you can edit the grub settings
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> Padge: No, just related to Ubuntu support.
[01:26] <Padge> tonyyarusso: What is ubuntu?
[01:26] <sudokill> cesc39, what do u mean garbage? if u edit the menu.lst file you can clean up entries
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> Padge: If you don't know that, you're in the wrong channel.
[01:26] <maujhsn> Can anyone solve this issue? http://pastebin.com/J15mdiEe
[01:26] <Padge> tonyyarusso: The point is, what if we ask about some tool that is part of the Ubuntu distro
[01:26] <rhin0> cesc39: Grime is a Gtk+ based front-end for configuring the appearence of GRUB's boot menu. Grime allows you to modify the menu colors, import and select a splash image, or hide the menu. It is meant to be used in conjunction with other tools that edit the GRUB menu contents, such as GNOME System Tools or Debian's update-grub, not an all-in-one configuration utility such as grubconf.
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> Padge: That's fine.
[01:27] <Padge> So I have a question about Samba
[01:27] <Padge> Is Samba included in the Ubuntu distro?
[01:27] <Padge> 11.04
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> yes
[01:28] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: two things... the similar problem i had with the ralink modem way back when was solved by manually entering its params in /etc/network/interfaces... it shouldn't have worked but it did
[01:28] <rhin0> samba is networking never had a need for it use nfs or share printers
[01:28] <cesc39> I have a long list of ubuntu distributions, I mean as time as past and update have been applied the list has grown... I just want the most up to date ubuntu and windows 7.
[01:28] <rhin0> nfs is simpler
[01:28] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[01:28] <Padge> rhin0: Are you trying to access SMB shares?
[01:28] <sudokill> cesc39, just edit menu.lst and delete the lines of the old distros
[01:28] <Chipzzz> cyperbg: second thing is i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 which may be helpful
[01:29] <Padge> rhin0: Rather, I should say, is nfs suitable for accessing SMB shares?
[01:29] <w1n5ton> Yo
[01:29] <cesc39> sudokill how do I edit menu.lst? can you tell me step by step?
[01:29] <rhin0> padge i ditched samba personally nfs is simper
[01:29] <w1n5ton> Is there a right way to install firefox 4 on ubuntu?
[01:29] <rhin0> padge I never got samba to work nfs is simpler works fine also I have a fine nfs command brb
[01:29] <will123456> hey guys. how on earth can i an extra boot menu option to grub without grub removing it next time it decides to do that thing where it rescans everything?
[01:29] <w1n5ton> The repo I added updates it to firefox 5.0 beta 1 which I do not want
[01:29] <rhin0> if you get nfs working use this will speed it up brb
[01:29] <Starminn> !ff4 | w1n5ton
[01:30] <Starminn> w1n5ton: Oh.
[01:30] <rhin0> sudo mount 127.0.0.1:/home/dan /home/dan/mount -o rsize=32768,wsize=32768,intr,noatime
[01:30] <rhin0> ^ speeds up nfs
[01:30] <Padge> rhin0: SMB shares.  Can you access SMB shares with nfs.  I don't really know the scope of nfs
[01:30] <rhin0> blockiing no atime etdc
[01:30] <Starminn> w1n5ton: Firefox 4 is end of life
[01:30] <rhin0> speeds it up
[01:30] <w1n5ton> end of life?
[01:30] <LekeFly> Could someone give me a hand with vsftpd ? thse are my .conf settings http://pastebin.com/wYHgFMEs i cant upload files.. gives me "Premission denied"
[01:30] <sudokill> cesc, i think the file it /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:30] <rhin0> sorry no idea bought nfs once actually bought it what is it use nfs
[01:31] <rhin0> samba
[01:31] <rhin0> use nfs not samba
[01:31] <w1n5ton> Starminn,
[01:31] <Starminn> w1n5ton: Yes, Mozilla is no longer supprting it
[01:31] <Padge> rhin0: Do you use nfs on Windows?
[01:31] <w1n5ton> wtf
[01:31] <rhin0> ok ... no idea
[01:31] <w1n5ton> It came out like a month ago
[01:32] <rhin0> im sure you can mount through nfs with windows
[01:32] <Padge> rhin0: Perhaps our needs are different.  I have SMB shares on a Windows machine that I'm trying to access with an Ubuntu machine.
[01:32] <sudokill> w1n5ton, yes firefox gets new versions quicker now
[01:32] <cesc39> How do I edit menu.lst? Can someone tell me?
[01:32] <Padge> rhin0: I'm not using Samba on the Windows machine.  SMB is a Microsoft technology.
[01:32] <w1n5ton> Say I wanted to downgrade to the previous version
[01:32] <rhin0> padge i have never got smb to work
[01:32] <w1n5ton> How would I do this?
[01:32] <will123456> LekeFly: what port are you connecting on?
[01:32] <rhin0> i know
[01:32] <sudokill> cesc39, i think it's boot /grub/menu.lst
[01:32] <rhin0> never got it to work
[01:32] <maujhsn> Can anyone solve this projectm-libvisual issue? http://pastebin.com/J15mdiEe
[01:32] <spacebug-> LekeFly: I dont use vsftpd but what is the permission on the folder you try to upload to and what uid is the the user getting when connecting?
[01:33] <LekeFly> will123456: 21
[01:33] <sudokill> cesc39, if so, do gksudo gedit /bot/grub/menu.lstthen delete the lines of the old disteos
[01:33] <LekeFly> spacebug-: How can i check permission? and whats uid?
[01:33] <Starminn> w1n5ton: Mozilla changed their policy: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/167537/20110622/mozilla-stops-security-support-for-firefox-4-firefox-5-firefox-3-6-google-chrome-eol-end-of-life-sec.htm they are now on a rapid-release schedule, and Firefox 5 is now the latest current version. If you wish to downgrade to an unsecure version, no longer receiving patches, there may be a way, but I wouldn't happen to know it. Just find a .deb for it 
[01:33] <spacebug-> if you connect as a user where do you come to? what local dir?
[01:34] <LekeFly> spacebug-: www
[01:34] <LekeFly> spacebug-: download works
[01:34] <w1n5ton> I hate bleeding edge versions
[01:34] <w1n5ton> Especially of web browsers
[01:34] <spacebug-> then what is the mode for www?
[01:34] <w1n5ton> This is a load of bs if you ask me, why would mozilla do that?
[01:34] <cesc39> sudokill I have opened a terminal window and typed gksudo gedit /bot/grub/menu.lst and a new window has opened but it is empty... blank
[01:35] <LekeFly> spacebug-: http://cl.ly/0F0r0E3O29421S0f0725
[01:35] <w1n5ton> The compatibility of my addons is my biggest concern
[01:35] <Padge> So, can anyone make heads or tails of this: http://pastebin.com/Vy4pPY4j
[01:35] <qin> cesc39: menu.lst is past! Try: less /etc/default/grub
[01:35] <will123456> w1n5ton: it's called chrome envy
[01:35] <will123456> it's freudian
[01:36] <qin> !grub2 | cesc39
[01:36] <Starminn> w1n5ton: Yep.. 'Cuz Google does it, it must be a great idea. Discussion of this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic, though.
[01:36] <spacebug-> LekeFly: hum ok
[01:36] <spacebug-> that seems fair enough
[01:36] <Willther> some good program for security test?
[01:37] <Kazilla> Willther: nmap, metasploit
[01:37] <Willther> nmap really, very good
[01:37] <Padge> I can't get Ubunto to see my windows shares.
[01:37] <Willther> i don't know yeat metaspoit
[01:38] <Padge> My windows and android machines see it, but not this Ubuntu machine.
[01:38] <LekeFly> spacebug-: Any ideas what it could be?
[01:38] <cesc39> I'm going to restart so I'll write down exactly which grub version appears on when I switch on my pc
[01:38] <LibertyBeta> Any on know of a gui config for wacom?
[01:38] <Padge> Samba is installed -- do I need to rummage through a config file somewhere to make Windows shares show up in Nautilus?
[01:40] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[01:40] <LekeFly> spacebug-: http://pastebin.com/cJVVrNvq
[01:41] <spacebug-> no sorry
[01:41] <spacebug-> I'm using another ftpd
[01:41] <vandemar> Padge: you probably want to be on the same workgroup, although if you're doing \\ip\sharename it technically shouldn't matter.  who knows when dealing with windows, though
[01:42] <louis__> hi again :) now I have chatzilla but it says it is connects to irc channels. how can i connect to a web based chat?
[01:43] <cesc_> I'm Cesc39... ok.. 1.98 - 1ubuntu12 GNU GRUB is what it says
[01:43] <cesc_> how do I edit the list?
[01:43] <Starminn> louis__: Define "web based chat"
[01:44] <Kazilla> louis__: all ubuntu chats are on irc
[01:44] <louis__> for example: www.chat.hu that is a chat website
[01:47] <louis__> i may mistaken with chat things... and there is no way to join into website chat
[01:47] <Starminn> louis__: IRC is IRC. Web based chats are web based chats. They are not equal to each other.
[01:47] <louis__> starminn: yeah i got it... thanks anyway :)
[01:48] <Starminn> louis__: You can connect to IRC through a browser (like Chatzilla), but IRC is something differenct. Ask in #freenode. That would be the ebst place for this.
[01:48] <sailerboy> hey there, if i wanted to switch from an amd card to an nvidia card,and i have fglrx installed, aside from uninstalling it, what else should i do?
[01:48] <louis__> ok i will try
[01:50] <LekeFly> Could someone give me a hand with vsftpd ? thse are my .conf settings http://pastebin.com/wYHgFMEs i cant upload files.. gives me "550 Premission denied"
[01:51] <maujhsn> Can anyone solve this projectm-libvisual issue? http://pastebin.com/J15mdiEe
[01:51] <Kazilla> LekeFly: you may want to try #vsftpd in tandem to see if they can help you there
[01:52] <QuixoticQuail> Hey all, the bottom left CTRL key of my Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 does absolutely nothing now in Natty. Any ideas?
[01:53] <cafezim> Change your keyboard :)
[01:53] <QuixoticQuail> :-P
[01:53] <QuixoticQuail> its quite comfy
[01:53] <cafezim> im new here
[01:53] <anotherOtherBG> i has font problem
[01:54] <Kazilla> has iz always betterr than want
[01:54] <Kazilla> sry i know! !offtopic
[01:54] <cafezim> I dont know how to help :)
[01:54] <cafezim> :(
[01:55] <cafezim> :()
[01:55] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[01:55] <imaudi> while installing Ubuntu 11.04, I'm having a problem at the "Preparing to install Ubuntu" screen when clicking the "Forward" button - nothing ever happens..  does anyone know a workaround?
[01:56] <cafezim> how do you xontribute?
[01:56] <cafezim> contribute*
[01:56] <mobodo> anyone knows what causes jockey-gtk to be launched? I have about 50 such processes running and my system is going crazy...
[01:56] <ScaN> buenas
[01:57] <cafezim> Scan
[01:57] <cafezim> espanhol amigo?
[01:57] <cafezim> como ajudar?
[01:57] <cafezim> how to help
[01:57] <cafezim> ?
[01:57] <bazhang> cafezim, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:58] <qin> That gave me idea to add people who use smiles in two consecutive posts to ignore list.
[01:58] <bazhang> !es | ScaN
[01:58] <anotherOtherBG> my .fonts.conf is http://code.bulix.org/up3k2i-80155
[01:58] <cafezim> what is that bazhang?
[01:58] <bazhang> cafezim, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:58] <imaudi> what's the best linux distro for hardware RAID0 (that just works out of the box)
[01:58] <bazhang> imaudi, try ##linux  , this is ubuntu support
[01:59] <ArTiSTiX> Still nobody to help me about my bluetooth issue ?
[01:59] <qin> Is someone familiar with get_iplayer and livetv type problem (or solution for thta matter)?
[01:59] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, whats up I was not here
[01:59] <bazhang> qin, thats the bbc one?
[01:59] <qin> bazhang: Yes
[01:59] <bazhang> qin, whats the problem
[02:00] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: my bluetooth can't turn up... "Connection timed out" issue
[02:00] <anotherOtherBG> in qt program, chinese serif font set to sans. gtk no problem, english no problem in qt. only chinese in qt
[02:00] <imaudi> yea just crickets in there
[02:00] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, do you know how to use pastebin
[02:01] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, let me see a rfkill list all
[02:01] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: yes, but this issue is relatively reccurrent on th net
[02:01] <imaudi> does anyone know about the install freeze problem?  was this been fixed?
[02:01] <bobweaver> look up
[02:01] <bazhang> imaudi, what problem. got a bug link?
[02:01] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, look up sorry
[02:02] <ry> is it possible to enable some kind of inertial scrolling in ubuntu?
[02:02] <imaudi> bazhang: Basically when I hit "Forward" in the installer, it just spins forever.
[02:02] <bobweaver> imaudi, alt cd or from ubuntu .com
[02:02] <bazhang> imaudi, at what stage exactly. please be very clear.
[02:02] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: rfkill give me my eth0 and hci0, and both are unblocked
[02:02] <bobweaver> is it frzzing at you uname and password part
[02:02] <imaudi> bobbyd: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso from ubuntu.com
[02:02] <ry> basically so when i use edge scrolling on my touchpad, i canj ust "flick" down with my finger and the page scrolls for a bit, or until i touch again to make it stop scrolling
[02:02] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, no bluetooth
[02:03] <bazhang> imaudi, thats not the info I asked for
[02:03] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, rfkill unblock bluetooth
[02:03] <imaudi> it's the very first screen, "Preparing to install Ubuntu" when you can select if you want to download updates during install, etc
[02:03] <imaudi> I believe it has something to do with the drive controller configuration
[02:03] <bobweaver> imaudi, did you check you nd5sum #
[02:03] <imaudi> I'm trying again with RAID1 instead
[02:03] <bazhang> imaudi, md5 the iso, reburn at low speed, do the disk integrity check. also, dont use cheap media
[02:03] <qin> bazhang: type=livetv 8000* (pids for live brodcast do not work, in 2.67 version of get_iplayer, liveradio and any other pid work). So for: get_iplayer --get --type=livetv 80002 err is: INFO: No specified modes (flashhd,flashvhigh, etc...
[02:04] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: did it... but nothing... my devices are all unblocked, but unusable
[02:04] <bazhang> !md5 | imaudi
[02:04] <imaudi> bazhang: Ok I'll try that..  thanks
[02:04] <bazhang> qin, got the link to the show you want to watch?
[02:04] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, past bin a lsmod
[02:04] <Kazilla> !bluetooth | ArTiSTiX
[02:05] <bazhang> !paste | ArTiSTiX
[02:05] <imaudi> holy crap yea this installer has to be bad..
[02:05] <ArTiSTiX> what whould i post ?
[02:05] <imaudi> I'll create a new cd
[02:05] <bobweaver> everyone one you for the http://www.pastebin.com
[02:06] <bobweaver> past your lsmod
[02:06] <bobweaver> paste your lsmod
[02:06]  * bobweaver has fat finger 
[02:06] <Kazilla> bobweaver: i don't think theres a problem with his hci0 bluetooth interface, maybe just needs setup
[02:07] <qin> bazhang: You mean, http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/ ? --url Do not take it.
[02:07] <bobweaver> Kazilla, could be just want to cover all the steps
[02:08]  * bobweaver steps away 
[02:08] <ArTiSTiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/632736/
[02:08] <bazhang> qin, not available in my area. cannot test.
[02:10] <spacebug-> LekeFly: http://pastebin.com/0s7W59YE look at that
[02:10] <qin> bazhang: It is so frustrating.
[02:11] <spacebug-> the only thing I changed from the original installed config was that I uncommented the write_enable=YES and I couldupload
[02:11] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, did not know about ubuntupastebin +1 cookie for you looks like all mods are loaded and then some might want to look at modinfo for the mods that you need then blacklist the rest
[02:11] <LekeFly> spacebug-: oh alright.. ill check it out.. thanks
[02:11] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[02:11] <bobweaver> I think that Kazilla was right you might just have to set it up
[02:13] <andrecostasilva4> hello brothers
[02:13] <andrecostasilva4> alguem pode me responder algo ae
[02:14] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: i would like to set it up... but the dmesg give me: "hci_cmd_timer: hci0 command tx timeout"
[02:14] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: anything i try (hciconfig etc...) give me this kind of error
[02:14] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, look at the the modinfo and make sure only the dependence are loaded
[02:15] <spacebug-> LekeFly: it's always good to have one or two testbox (in virtualbox for exmaple) to test things with (and in a jailed inviroment) :)
[02:16] <cyperbg> guys I'm not sure which part of Ubuntu 11.04 is called the network manager. Is this s GUI application or a command line program? How can I find out if I use it?
[02:16] <Logan_> !pt | andrecostasilva4
[02:17] <cyperbg> anyone?
[02:17] <Logan_> !please | cyperbg
[02:18] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: what should i see if there is something wrong ?
[02:18] <cyperbg> !repeat
[02:19] <cyperbg> !attitude
[02:19] <liweipw> mobibot: weather ZBAA
[02:19] <liweipw> hello
[02:20] <terry_> cyperbg: sudo apt-get install wicd
[02:20] <sailerboy> i have a gt 210 that i just dropped in place of an ati 4550
[02:20] <sailerboy> hey there, i'm having trouble setting up my nvidia driver
[02:20] <sailerboy> i'm installing them via jockey
[02:20] <terry_> cyperbg: Did you do updates yet?
[02:20] <sailerboy> when i boot up, it fails to start X
[02:20] <FloodBot1> sailerboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <sailerboy> and my logs look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632741/
[02:20] <Bibs> ohia guys
[02:21] <imaudi> Has anyone used Synergy?  does it work well with a Linux server and Mac client?
[02:21] <terry_> cyperbg: I asked you before if you were using the network-manager.  I thought you said yes.
[02:21] <cyperbg> terry_ not yet - is this command for the updates?
[02:21] <cyperbg> terry_
[02:21] <cyperbg> sudo apt-get update
[02:21] <cyperbg> or do I use Administration/Update Manager
[02:21] <terry_> cyperbg: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:22] <cyperbg> what is the sudo apt-get update for?
[02:22] <ArTiSTiX> bobweaver: i find nothing special... there is even a toshiba_bluetooth module to turn it on through acpi
[02:22] <cyperbg> oh I think I do update first and upgrade second
[02:23] <bobweaver> ArTiSTiX, /join ubutnu-beginers to much going on
[02:23] <Starminn> cyperbg: update essentially makes everything available, upgrade installs it. Or you can use Update Manager to achieve the same
[02:23] <spacebug-> cyperbg: update reloads the list of packaged and the versions from the servers. upgrade upgrades all packages that have been found haveing newver version on server than installed local
[02:23] <andrezip> hello, minha primeira vez aqui alguem pode me dar uma ajuda
[02:24] <szal> !pt | andrezip
[02:24] <cyperbg> spacebug- thank you - I didi update, now it's upgrading
[02:24] <spacebug-> ok
[02:24] <andrezip> thank
[02:25] <iAlejo> Hi guys, someone can help me?
[02:25] <szal> with what?
[02:25] <iAlejo> thx, i have a problem installing pycrypto
[02:26] <imaudi> Oh hey here's a stupid question that hopefully won't result in too many flames..  I think GRUB is the thing causing issues - can I just not use it?  I have no other OS on the system.
[02:26] <szal> define 'a problem'
[02:26] <cyperbg> is it a good idea to install many packages with one command such as sudo apt-get install python-setuptools python-numpy subversion g++ libboost-all-dev libqtgui4 openntpd
[02:26] <terry_> iAlejo: If you ask a question that is specivically relevant to your issue, someone here will more-than-likely have some advice for you.
[02:26] <szal> imaudi: what issues?
[02:26] <iAlejo> warning: GMP library not found; Not building Crypto.PublicKey._fastmath.
[02:27] <spacebug-> cyperbg: sure
[02:27] <terry_> *specifically
[02:27] <andrezip> someone tell me why the #ubuntu-br this down?
[02:27] <imaudi> szal: Running "install —force -lba —stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0.0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst" ..failed
[02:28] <cyperbg> spacebug- and that won't cause any problems?
[02:28] <szal> imaudi: define 'failed'
[02:28] <terry_> cybrside: I would suggest   sudo apt-get upgrade   first.   Best to start out with fully updated system.
[02:28] <imaudi> szal: Error 22 - no partition
[02:28] <spacebug-> cyperbg: no. there might be some kind of limit, like the length of the line the terminal can handle or such
[02:28] <bazhang> imaudi, you are using legacy grub?
[02:29] <szal> imaudi: typo -> it's 'hd0,0' with a comma
[02:29] <bazhang> imaudi, what ubuntu version is that?
[02:29] <imaudi> szal: I've tried in both ubuntu and opensuse - same grub error
[02:29] <bazhang> imaudi, you are using suse?
[02:29] <cyperbg> spacebug- thank you :)
[02:29] <imaudi> bazhang: Yea I'm trying Suse right now, gave up with Ubuntu cuz the installer wasn't working.. howver I got the same GRUB2 error before
[02:29] <szal> imaudi: (1) openSUSE uses Grub 1 as opposed to *buntu using Grub 2, (2) openSUSE issues are not discussed here#
[02:29] <szal> !pm | iAlejo
[02:30] <bazhang> imaudi, #suse not here
[02:30] <imaudi> yes however the question was "do I need to use a boot manager on a system with one OS"
[02:30] <bazhang> imaudi, its not supported here, dont ask further
[02:30] <iAlejo> sry szal
[02:30] <C_Smith> hey, is there a hardware cursor patch for wine 1.3.23? I don't know if this falls into Winehq's hands as the version of Wine isn't installed yet.
[02:30] <imaudi> what's not supported?
[02:30] <terry_> imaudi: yes
[02:30] <imaudi> ok thanks
[02:30] <sailerboy> can anyone help me with my problem about nvidia drivers?
[02:30] <sailerboy> X simply won't start
[02:30] <sailerboy> jockey seems not to install
[02:30] <sailerboy> idk wtf is going on
[02:30] <imaudi> I'm burning another Ubuntu 11.04 CD so I'll go back to that if this doesn't work
[02:31] <Starminn> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ArchLinux
[02:31] <kingofswords> mplayer has just messed up my screen...its covered in speckles
[02:31] <bazhang> Starminn, ?
[02:31] <terry_> sailerboy: Don't use enter for puncuation, please
[02:31] <Starminn> Oops
[02:31]  * Starminn is an idiot and forgot something else was in my clipboard
[02:31] <bazhang> kingofswords, turn off compiz yet?
[02:31] <kingofswords> no
[02:31] <kingofswords> should i?
[02:32] <kingofswords> im gonna reboot...sorry i can hardly read this channel
[02:32] <rewter> what are the hardware specs needed for ubuntu 11.04 desktop
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> !requirements
[02:32] <andrezip> opa pessoal
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> rewter: above
[02:32] <iAlejo> i need install paramiko, i did this "sudo easy_install paramiko" and get this error >> warning: GMP library not found; Not building Crypto.PublicKey._fastmath., i installed GMP lib from website but nothing change
[02:32] <bazhang> !br | andrezip
[02:34] <kingofswords> bazhang, reboot sorted it
[02:34] <kingofswords> do u know why this happened....i played a divx in mplayer
[02:35] <ownlife> Oi! Would anyone be able to direct me to a guide for making a Windows 7 USB install?
[02:35] <bazhang> ##windows ownlife
[02:35] <ownlife> Thanks sir
[02:35] <ownlife> I mean, within Ubuntu
[02:35] <bazhang> ownlife, not possible
[02:36] <ownlife> really
[02:36] <iAlejo> ownlife http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[02:36] <cyperbg> so after running sudo apt-get upgrade how can I confirm there are no more updates to install? Would doing sudo apt-get upgrade again install everything all over again?
[02:37] <bazhang> cyperbg, no, it's set
[02:37] <imaudi> ok this new Ubuntu disc is working, let's see if Grub installs
[02:37] <imaudi> otherwise I'm saying screw RAID
[02:37] <cyperbg> so it it safe to run the same command twice just to check everything necessary got installed the first time
[02:37] <bazhang> cyperbg, safe bu t not needed
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> cyperbg, sure - redundant however
[02:38] <iAlejo> guys i need help with installing paramiko, anyone can helpme?
[02:38] <imaudi> also on Ubuntu 11.04 will there be much perf difference between RAID0 and RAID1?
[02:39] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[02:39] <jasongriffee> was the sound-prefs window updated recently? i cant select output device now
[02:40] <ownlife> iAlejo, thanks sir! I found this guide too: http://www.bloganol.com/2010/12/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive-linux.html
[02:40] <iAlejo> ownlife, you're welcome
[02:41] <ownlife> Thanks for the impossible ^.-
[02:41] <jasongriffee> i cant pick between laptop speakers and headphone anymore, suggestions?
[02:41] <Benkinooby> hi, i installed some additional repositories (some ppa, skype,...) how can i get back to a standard setting? removing the repositories will keep the packages untouched... even after aptitude updaten && aptitude safe-upgrade
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, you could research ppa-purge (I've never used it, so can't really comment on its function) to remove the PPA stuff.
[02:45] <imaudi> szal: Ok here's the error: Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda — Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. — this is a fatal error
[02:45] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, ok, thak you for the hint! appreciate it
[02:47] <imaudi> So now my choices are "Choose a different device to install the bootloader on", "Continue without a bootloader" or "Cancel the installation"
[02:48] <K725> look this http://goo.gl/UUnh7 the x-man humans mutants is reals ???
[02:48] <imaudi> though any option I select, the "OK" button does nothing..  dang this installer is buggy
[02:49] <C_Smith> seriously, #winehq has been less helpful to me than trying to figure the problem out myself (which never works) and less helpful than their forums (which someone usually helps me.)
[02:49] <vandemar> the installer is not very friendly dealing with unusual (raid/lvm) setups.
[02:49] <C_Smith> ooops, wrong tab. *flees*
[02:49] <imaudi> Vanadis__: RAID1 is unusual?
[02:50] <vandemar> yes, sadly
[02:50] <K725> is very ? the very mutants humans
[02:51] <cyperbg> so I guess I should restart after sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:51] <imaudi> Vanadis__: Hmm ok..  I think I'll give up on RAID and just install normally..
[02:51] <vandemar> imaudi: it took me a few runs through the installer to figure out what sequence it wanted me to do things
[02:51] <bazhang> cyperbg, was it a kernel upgrade?
[02:51] <vandemar> imaudi: are you using the standard cd/dvd image or the alternate?
[02:51] <cyperbg> bazhang I'm not sure all I did was sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:51] <imaudi> Vanadis__: From what I can tell, it's trying to install the boot loader on sda (the primary drive, not the mirror) which of course fails
[02:52] <cyperbg> but I guess it doesn't hurt to reboot
[02:52] <imaudi> Vanadis__: Standard CD
[02:52] <vandemar> imaudi: the standard image was completely stupid.  the alternate image I finally got to install
[02:52] <bazhang> cyperbg, check right hand top corner does it say reboot to finish upgrade? or just the normal logout, shutdown etc
[02:52] <imaudi> Vanadis__: Lemme give that a shot..  Can you link me to it?
[02:52] <vandemar> imaudi: are you using pure software raid or intel ich<x> assisted?
[02:53] <imaudi> Vanadis__: It's the Intel dealio on the motherboard..  the one you hit CTRL+I to get into
[02:53] <cyperbg> bazhang normal reboot/shut down
[02:53] <imaudi> Vanadis__: "Intel Rapid Storage" they call it
[02:53] <bazhang> cyperbg, no need to reboot then
[02:53] <cyperbg> ok
[02:54] <vandemar> imaudi: I used software-only raid when I installed on on a pair of drives a few weeks ago
[02:54] <imaudi> Vanadis__: Am I better off using software RAID and setting that up post install?  can Linux just take a blank drive and say "hey mirror this"
[02:55] <vandemar> imaudi: I don't know what the performance differences might be, but I know software raid ended up working for me.
[02:56] <imaudi> Vanadis__: Ok sounds like a good route..  though maybe I'll try the alternate CD image
[02:56] <metroider> hey, is there a way to safely test out the gnome 3 shell?  or is it going to mess up my whole system?
[02:57] <imaudi> Vanadis__: The alternate installer looks more friendly..  old skool text without the eye candy, probably stuff just works
[02:57] <bazhang> metroider, not safe, you could boot a gnome3 distro though
[02:57] <bazhang> !gnome3 | metroider
[02:58] <cyperbg> how can I disable that Keyring thing when I autologin?
[02:58] <metroider> bazhang: thanks, what is a good gnome3 distro?
[02:58] <cyperbg> I want to remote manage the desktop
[02:59] <bazhang> cyperbg, set it to blank
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> metroider, Fedora
[02:59] <cyperbg> bazhang can you point me how?
[02:59] <bazhang> metroider, not sure about "good" fedora has one
[03:00] <bazhang> cyperbg, for the keyring? is it already set with a password?
[03:00] <metroider> thanks, maybe i will see about double booting ubuntu and fedora
[03:00] <bazhang> metroider, or just try the live cd
[03:01] <cyperbg> bazhang I think yes. Password and Encryption keys has one category - Password: Login with 2 entries: vino and Network secret for my wifi
[03:01] <bazhang> cyperbg, system preferences passwords and encryption keys?
[03:01] <liweipw> i
[03:02] <cyperbg> bazhang Yes
[03:03] <Benkinooby> hy, my system freqently does arp request for ym gateway - not sure if it would arp-request all computers in a lan... how can i find out what software causes those arp requests? they are made every minute or so...
[03:04] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[03:08] <jasongriffee> sound is mute even though sound is up? i have asus k50, what should i do?
[03:08] <bazhang> jasongriffee, check alsamixer ?
[03:09] <jasongriffee> i did everything i did last time, won't work this time
[03:10] <bazhang> jasongriffee, please let us know what that everything was, for troubleshooting purposes
[03:10] <liweipw> how do double boot with linux and windows
[03:11] <bazhang> liweipw, which is installed first
[03:12] <liweipw> my PC have install windows,but i wanna to install a ubuntu
[03:12] <bazhang> liweipw, then ubuntu will see the windows install and install alongside it
[03:12] <jasongriffee> maxing fount in gnome-alsamixer but muted, enabling smart 5.1, i cant do last thing which was setting sound-prefs to headphones
[03:14] <bazhang> liweipw, download the iso from www.ubuntu.com  burn iso to cd, boot from cd, then start the installer
[03:14] <imaudi> isn't there actaully a windows installer?
[03:15] <bazhang> imaudi, wubi, yes. he wants a real dual boot though
[03:15] <liweipw> bazhang,thanks ,install fedora is the same way?
[03:15] <finallove> hello
[03:15] <bazhang> liweipw, all the live cds are these days, yes.
[03:16] <bazhang> liweipw, #fedora if you wish to confirm this
[03:17] <finallove> haha
[03:17] <bazhang> finallove, ?
[03:17] <liweipw> bazhang,i listen to part section on hardware
[03:18] <bazhang> liweipw, please rephrase, no idea what that means
[03:20] <qwedd> can somone help me with the folowing: i want to unistall debian, but i cannot recover mbr in windows, for sgd does not work. Installing ubuntu will let me run windows and ubuntu, solving the problem of the mbr?
[03:20] <bazhang> qwedd, what is sgd
[03:20] <qwedd> supergrubdisk
[03:21] <bazhang> !info mbr
[03:21] <Starminn> Is it okay if I remove ~/src? There are a number of Compiz plugins within it (~/src/compiz/plugins/*) would this disable those?
[03:21] <liweipw> bazhang ,i wanna to know somehing about the Hard disk partition
[03:21] <bazhang> liweipw, then ask a question related to that
[03:21] <bazhang> !partition | liweipw this may help too
[03:22] <duongthaiha> hi i am having a problem when login I have to enter password the default keyring many time. (Each for each application i guess) Is this possible to enter the password for the default keyring once only?
[03:23] <robinsch> any good channels on freenode
[03:23] <monx> I have an encrypted home folder that I want to keep, but I want to reinstall the OS. Is there anything I need to make sure I carry over to the new install so the decryption works? (/etc/passwd + shadow?)
[03:23] <Luxe> ;o
[03:23] <bazhang> !alis | robinsch
[03:24] <liweipw> thans, i will try
[03:24] <UserX> before gdm loads, i see some text (error-like) in the tty -- anyway I can check what it says, because it's too quick?
[03:25] <bazhang> UserX, boot with splash disabled?
[03:25] <syrinx_> UserX: or check your Xorg log, because it's most like that
[03:25] <syrinx_> likely, even.
[03:25] <bazhang> !nox | UserX this?
[03:26] <philipballew> !vnc
[03:27] <monx> I have an encrypted home folder that I want to keep, but I want to reinstall the OS. Is there anything I need to make sure I carry over to the new install so the decryption works? (/etc/passwd + shadow?)
[03:27] <qwedd> if ierase debian partition, i will not be able to load windows. So installing ubuntu,after unistalling debian, will let me loading windows?
[03:30] <qwedd> will search help in other place. bye
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> monx, I have NO idea about your actual issue - BUT /etc/passwd and the shadow file - are the system's user list and passwords.  Nothing to do with your encrypted partition.
[03:36] <monx> I figure just reinstalling would be far easier than fixing whatever issue I have. (whenever I try to log in, i get thrown back to the login prompt with 'module unknown' printed)
[03:37] <monx> but if I reinstall keeping my home partition, will the unencryption still work properly on login if I use the same credentials for my user?
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> monx, I have NO idea about your actual issue (by that I mean the encryption stuff)
[03:38] <monx> ah ok got you
[03:39] <iam> hi, I'm on Natty 64bit and realplayer isn't working. I have ia32libs installed
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> iam, try running realplayer from a terminal - what output/error message are you getting?
[03:40] <iam> ZykoticK9: Wrong ELF class
[03:41] <ZykoticK9> iam, try "linux32 realplayer" or whatever the realplayer binary is called
[03:42] <IdleOne> hmm
[03:42] <iam> ZykoticK9: there is no 64bit version I guess. and 32bit version is unable to run giving these wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 errors
[03:42] <syrinx_> monx: reinstalling is almost NEVER easier/better than troubleshooting a problem
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> iam, did you try the linux32 thing?
[03:44] <iam> ZykoticK9: what do you mean by linux32? 32bit binary?
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> iam, i mean type "linux32 realplayer" but substitute realplayer with whatever you trying to run
[03:44] <iam> ZykoticK9: ok.. i'll try
[03:46] <monx> syrinx_: i think i wounded my install pretty deeply lol. i broke something installing guitarix. gnome wouldnt load so i removed guitarix (with --autoremove) and did apt-get upgrade --fix-broken
[03:46] <iam> ZykoticK9: still didnt work...
[03:46] <Terabyte> i just installed ubuntu server 10.04 and asked it to "update automatically" now when i login it says "58 packages can be updated, 39 updates are security updates", how will ubuntu perform the update, is it downloading them right now in the background? will it automatically reboot? where is the info for this, and how can i confirm that auto update is configured
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> iam, same error, or different?
[03:46] <iam> ZykoticK9: same errors
[03:47] <monx> now i cant logon through tty either
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> iam, sorry don't have any other suggestions, good luck.
[03:47] <iam> is Helix an alternative to realplayer?
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> iam, i think so...
[03:48] <Apple_Cat> Hi, after about 6-7 minutes or possibly just after 100mb has been downloaded the connection to my wifi breaks... Signal level is the same but packet loss increases to 100% Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be
[03:48] <amit> +8/9]=
[03:48] <syrinx_> monx: what exactly is guitarix?
[03:49] <syrinx_> !guitarix
[03:49] <syrinx_> monx: ah, ok, nvm
[03:49] <jll> hi all, I was here last night with a java problem if anybody remember me.
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> !info guitarix
[03:50] <spacebug-> Terabyte: it will not do anything untill you tell it to. After upgrading for example the kernel you will need to reboot but it will not just do it without you allowing it to
[03:50] <jll> Anyway I got java installed but the page is just blank. any suggestions?
[03:50] <almoxarife> jll: a web page?
[03:50] <jll> yes, pogo
[03:51] <almoxarife> jll: what browser?
[03:54] <jasongriffee> alsa is changing settings on it's own, how do i fix this?
[03:54] <hckngfrost> esse é melhor
[03:56] <HckngFrost> exit
[03:56] <jll> almoxarife, I'm using firefox, should I try another one?
[03:56] <almoxarife> jll: what version of java?
[03:56] <dhasenan> Logging into GNOME, you get .bash_profile sourced but not .bashrc?
[03:57] <jasongriffee> alsa is changing settings on it's own, how do i fix this?	
[03:57] <Dracofodder> I'm getting a message about running a "partial upgrade" on my patch manager under 10.10, this isn't going to force me into 11.04 is it? I also don't recall any failed updates recently, so don't know why I am getting this message
[03:58] <ZykoticK9> Dracofodder, if you proceed with a "partial upgrade" something is going to break!  <warning>
[03:58] <Dracofodder> ZykoticK9:  glad I didnt do that, thanks!
[03:58] <jasongriffee> alsa is changing settings on it's own, how do i fix this?	
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> Dracofodder, i'd recommend installing aptitude and running "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to upgrade what CAN be upgraded
[03:59] <Dracofodder> ZykoticK9:  ok, I can do that. thanks!
[04:01] <Terabyte> spacebug- so which part of "automatic updates" is automatic then?
[04:01] <Terabyte> i thought the whole point of automatic updates was, well, much like they do on competing OS's, automatically download, and install silently in the background.
[04:02] <JohnSS> What did Ubuntu 11.04 do with the Visual Effects tab? Where'd it go?
[04:02] <iAmerikan> Ping rhin0
[04:02] <Bibs> would anyone trust a 5 dollar vps :\
[04:02] <Terabyte> 5 dollar per day yeah
[04:02] <Bibs> hmm
[04:03] <iAmerikan> pricy
[04:03] <Bibs> 5/mo
[04:03] <Bibs> or a 3/mo heh
[04:03] <Dracofodder> ZykoticK9: thanks again, the update was what I suspected, but your command line proved it out... That was a Firefox update that was generating the "partial upgrade" dialog.
[04:03] <Terabyte> 3/mo presumably the registration fee to use them next month right?
[04:03] <Terabyte> or the tax on the bill
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> Dracofodder, glad to help
[04:03] <Bibs> it's the price on the vps :\
[04:05] <jasongriffee> in pulseaudio, does locking channels for alsa mean the settings for alsa are locked?
[04:05] <ZykoticK9> jasongriffee, locking just means the left and right channels are locked together (both move together)
[04:06] <jll> does anybody have problems playing pogo games? it loads but just stays blank.
[04:07] <jasongriffee> ZykoticK9, how do I make alsa settings stay in place. alsa has a habit of changing them
[04:07] <ChaosSaber> qin, Hey just wanted to say thanks for you're help, the bookmarks imported just fine
[04:07] <jasongriffee> jll, are you a club member?
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> jasongriffee, here is a blog about "saving" alsa settings http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/alsamixer-and-alsactl-store-adjust-and-save-alsa-mixer-settings-p29/
[04:09] <Kawataka> can i watch movies on ubuntu?
[04:09] <ChaosSaber> anyway to run 2 diff networks on XChat?
[04:09] <Kawataka> like ones in .avi format?
[04:09] <ChaosSaber> Kawataka, yes you can
[04:09] <iAmerikan> ChaosSaber: of course (:
[04:09] <iAmerikan> Kawataka: mplayer // smplayer
[04:09] <jasongriffee> Kawataka, video files should be fine
[04:09] <jll> no, I just have a log in and password
[04:09] <Kawataka> thanks
[04:09] <jll> I just want to play spades
[04:10] <jasongriffee> Kawataka, dvds require a little more work
[04:10] <jll> my hoyle card games won't work with Linux, only with windows so I "thought" linux would be fine with pogo. but I guess I was wrong.
[04:11] <Guest82269> hello?
[04:11] <jasongriffee> jll, do you have any blocking software installed, eg. adblock plus?
[04:11] <zerothis> hello Guest82269, please ask your question
[04:11] <jll> not that I know of, I just installed this version of ubuntu because I was told last night that the other one was corrupted
[04:12] <jll> I'm using 10.10 ubuntu
[04:12] <ZykoticK9> jll, are you using sun java?
[04:12] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[04:13] <jll> I installed all the restricted software in synaptic.
[04:13] <jll> related to java I meant
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> jll, did you SPECIFICALLY install sun java?  if not you should!
[04:13] <ZykoticK9> !java | jll
[04:14] <jll> ubottu, do you remember me from last night?
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> jll, u-r-e contains the free java, sun-java might give a different result (or the same?)
[04:14] <rileyp> I need help reinstalling v4l can anyone help me
[04:14] <AfTeRdArK> ммм
[04:15] <jll> zykotick9 can I install sun - java with synaptic or do I need to put in a lot of code in the terminal?
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> jll, you need to add the partner repo - then you can use synaptic
[04:16] <ZykoticK9> jll, you need to add the partner repo - and update your sources - then you can use synaptic
[04:16] <ZykoticK9> !partner | jll
[04:17] <Apple_Cat> My wireless fails after heavy usage. I can get about 6-7 minutes of around 500kb/s and then packet loss will jump to 100% and I have to restart the connection. I am using ath9k driver
[04:18] <Apple_Cat> Should I try to get the latest ath9k driver?
[04:18] <Apple_Cat> or try ndiswrapper maybe
[04:19] <jll> ok I have no clue as to what you are talking about zykotick9. How do I partner repo?
[04:19] <imaudi> am I correct in stating Ubuntu can't boot off a RAID0, only RAID1?
[04:20] <ZykoticK9> can someone else assist jll with adding partner repo and installing sun-java plugin?  thanks.
[04:21] <jll> ok I just upgraded the app install data partner, is that what you were talking about? zykotick9
[04:22] <ZykoticK9> jll, yes - did it ask you to update as well?  if not you could run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal.  Once that's finished search for sun-java6 in synaptic and install the plugin.  good luck!
[04:22] <rileyp> v4l help please
[04:22] <rileyp> I ned to do a clean install of v4l drivers
[04:23] <rileyp> anyone got the skills
[04:23] <rileyp> and the kindness
[04:23] <shazzner_> hey guys, I'm at my wits end
[04:23] <shazzner_> for some reason Nautilus refuses to start normally
[04:23] <alphaex> does apple keyboard compatible with pc ??（linux)
[04:23] <shazzner_> it gives me a dbus error
[04:23] <alphaex> anyone tried ??
[04:23] <shazzner_> if I gksudo it works fine
[04:24] <alphaex> does apple keyboard compatible with pc ??（linux)
[04:24] <alphaex> anyone tried ??
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> rileyp, if you installed a version of v4l from source code - you should seek assistance directly from v4l (do they have a mailing list or forum?)
[04:24] <imaudi> alphaex: I have one, I can plug it in in a bit but I'm doing an install right now
[04:24] <alphaex> imaudi : what do you mean ??
[04:25] <imaudi> alphaex: I have an Apple keyboard and a PC running Linux, I can plug it in and tell you if it works for me or not
[04:25] <rileyp> ZykoticK9,  no one online at present Im logged in
[04:25] <jll> ok, it's installing, thank you. Do you know anything about antiX Linux?
[04:25] <alphaex> is it work fine or not ??
[04:25] <jasongriffee> i cant save alsa settings like in blog
[04:25] <imaudi> alphaex: Don't know yet, I'm currently installing Linux (have been trying to figure out why it won't work with hardware RAID0 but I gave up)
[04:26] <BrainPalace> hi, I have a weird ubuntu problem
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> rileyp, you basically now need their help removing the program.  This is why compiling software is often a bad idea.  Good luck.
[04:26] <rileyp> ZykoticK9,  gee thanks
[04:27] <BrainPalace> every so often, ubuntu just decides to stop registering mouse clicks
[04:27] <BrainPalace> also is there a way to disable touchpad if I plug in a mouse?
[04:27] <imaudi> BrainPalace: Heh I had that problem before too on a MacBook..  the mouse would stop working but touchpad would sitll work..  I thnk it's just a ubuntu bug
[04:28] <BrainPalace> well, the mouse still works, but neither the touchpad or mouse will recognise me clicking anything unless I do some very strange stuff
[04:28] <alphaex> imaudi : Can you try now ?? (and thank for that )
[04:29] <imaudi> alphaex: Yea one sec
[04:29] <BrainPalace> like ctrl alt del out and then manually use keyboard to select cancel shutdown
[04:29] <Riberty> how do i install libre office, the help page seems so difficult to understand
[04:29] <Riberty> i extracted the folder from the .tar.gz
[04:30] <imaudi> alphaex: Yup Apple keyboard works perfectly.. just plugged it in and typed, works out of the box..  11.04
[04:30] <Mazz_> hey
[04:30] <IdleOne> Riberty: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[04:30] <alphaex> imaudi : Are you using the wireless keyboard ??
[04:30] <imaudi> alphaex: I've run ubuntu on a macbook pro once before too and that worked..
[04:31] <Riberty> wait nevermind i didnt realize sudo dpkg -i *.deb installed all the debs fiels
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, LibreOffice is in 11.04?  Cool stuff.
[04:31] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: default yeah
[04:31] <imaudi> alphaex: Nope, just the standard white keyboard that came with my iMac
[04:32] <MagicJ> I have a system where the svreen saver will not run - I am getting the message:
[04:32] <MagicJ> I am getting th message: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". - what do I need to fix?
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, GLX = OpenGL - you obviously don't have 3d acceleration right now.  What graphics card are you using?
[04:33] <rileyp> v4l help please
[04:34] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: it is a used gateway machine - so I am not sure - can I tell the system not to use accelartion somehow
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal to find graphics card
[04:34] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: and I am glad it is obvious to you - it wasn't to me
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, sorry - bad word choice on my part.
[04:35] <alphaex> imaudi :alright, thank for that
[04:35] <sadiel> hello guise. Do you know how can I access the bios on a vaio laptop, so I can turn on boot from the usb and install linux on the damn box?
[04:35] <imaudi> no problem
[04:35] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Doesn't vga have to be VGA? (capitalized?)
[04:35] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: no I was not suggesting a bad word choice - the reason I am here is because I am please it is obvious to you since it isn;t to me - getting that command right now too
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, -i is case insenstive
[04:36] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Aha! Makes sense, then.
[04:37] <paul_> hi all, any ideas why I can't connect to google chat in the built in chat app
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, that's why I always post the -i cause you're right a regular grep would require VGA, and many people wouldn't pick up on the need for captials
[04:37] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp 82945G
[04:37] <MadHaTTer666> iz it jus me or iz fb gettin real fuzzy lately?
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, that's a suprise!  I would have figured Intel would have 3d out of the box.  I'll do a quick search online to see if i can find anything.
[04:39] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: it may be the fact that this is one of three machines in my coffee shop and the disk was made by closning one of the others that was a dell and this is a gateway - the local uni sells used machones for $50 and that's what I use
[04:39] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  can I just not somehow tell the system to not use acceleration?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, could you tell me if this show as being installed "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[04:40] <phux> how can i compile the latest vim with gVIm? (Im compiling the latest vim mercurial)
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, i'm assuming it will be
[04:40] <Kuzad> What does it mean when my system becomes unresponsive and the Caps-Lock key flashes?
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> Kuzad, you system has "locked up"
[04:41] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  tells me that it is Installed
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, i figured.  I'll keep looking.
[04:41] <Kuzad> ZykoticK9, yes, it locks up, but what sort of error would cause a full lockup? This has only been happening on 11.04, it never happened in 10.10 or 10.04
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> Kuzad, i'm not going to comment on that... sorry i have no suggestions.
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, from a terminal does "glxgears" work?
[04:43] <Kuzad> Anyone have any details? For why the system locks up and flashes the caps lock key?
[04:43] <NightOwl217> Hows it going everyone?
[04:43] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  glxgears is not installed, do you want me to install it
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, please (it's small)
[04:44] <imaudi> Ok how come I never thought to get dual 24"" screens before, this is fantastic..
[04:44] <jll> it's still doing it, applet started and no game just blank.
[04:44] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9: tells me it needs mesa-utils - shall I install that
[04:44] <phux> solved
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, yup
[04:45] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  I am not on that machine - so it tells me that it can not open the display
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> MagicJ, that would also be why the 3d screen save doesn't work.  Good luck - i'm done.
[04:46] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  what do you mean - I get the original problem when I am on that machine - so I am missing something here
[04:46] <MagicJ> ZykoticK9:  it is just that right now I am not on that machine
[04:46] <imaudi> doh!  This Unity thing just loaded when I installed new video drivers..  wth is everything?
[04:47] <rileyp> I need help installing v4l after botching it up
[04:50] <alphaex> imaudi : Do you think the apple wireless keyboard can be use in pc (ubuntu 10.10 )
[04:50] <alphaex> ??
[04:52] <imaudi> my official answer is "probably"
[04:52] <imaudi> anyone on here use NVIDIA X Server?
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> imaudi, ask the "real" question
[04:53] <imaudi> I just installed it, and now my second monitor won't come on..  it was working before I installed the Nvidia driver
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> imaudi, "nvidia-settings" and enable the other monitor
[04:53] <jll> ah well, I guess I'll have to stick to windows! this sucks not having java working!
[04:53] <imaudi> I did, it said it required restarting x-server.. so I rebooted, but now the second monitor is disabled again
[04:54] <Kuzad>  Well, Google was my friend. How would I recover from a Kernel Panic, aside from a hard reboot?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> imaudi, use the "Save to Xorg.conf" button to save the settings
[04:54] <imaudi> zykes-: Ok one sec
[04:54] <imaudi> err sorry ZykoticK9
[04:54] <imaudi> btw, is there a way to restart x-server without rebooting?
[04:55] <Starminn> Banshee crashed on me. The error Banshee gave was: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> imaudi, "sudo service gdm restart"
[04:55] <imaudi> ok thanks
[04:59] <imaudi> Is there a keyboard shortcut for this ridiculously useful Unity search thing
[04:59] <arooni-mobile> is tehre a key command that will select first menu in an applicatoin?
[05:01] <imaudi> oh.. it's the same thing as Spotlight on mac..  handy
[05:03] <imaudi> yea service gdm restart does NOT work
[05:03] <imaudi> or if it does, it takes longer to restart than reboot the entire machine
[05:04] <NTU> all of you should stop using ubuntu. its AWFUL. thank you. good bye.
[05:05] <imaudi> I'm starting to agree with that guy
[05:05] <TheMatrix3000> rw,sync,no_root_squash what does that mean in nfs
[05:05] <TheMatrix3000> what is sync,no_root_squash mean
[05:05] <iam> how can i make realplayer to look for libraries in /usr/lib32 ??
[05:06] <naryfa> they want to censor internet heheheh
[05:06] <naryfa> http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/three_strikes/?source=fb
[05:06] <Jordan_U> !ot | naryfa
[05:06] <naryfa> Jordan_U: You better read this and stop crying and showing off with your bot skills.
[05:07] <qin> He left?
[05:07] <pentester> hey
[05:08] <imaudi> ok after doing a gdm restart, my entire system is hosed.. it boots into a blank desktop, Unity no longer loads, there's nothing to click on or anything..
[05:08] <imaudi> any ideas?
[05:08] <imaudi> tried rebooting twice
[05:09] <ChaosSaber> qin, Hey just wanted to say thanks for you're help, the bookmarks imported just fine
[05:09] <imaudi> ok booting into safe mode works, now how to fix this
[05:10] <qin> ChaosSaber: Cool, I have even installed firefox to write 0.3 version.
[05:15] <Luxe> ;o
[05:15] <imaudi> does anyone have some really kewl Compiz defaults they can send me?
[05:15] <Kilgore_brass> Can anybody give me some advice to a linux/ubuntu newb? Just installed it and whenever I close my laptop and open it back up (and it tries to come back from suspend mode or whatever) I get a weird geometric fuzzy static pattern and have to restart my computer. Thanks if anyone can help, sorry if this is the wrong place to be asking.
[05:16] <pinoyoragon> Can Libreoffice format a java code (with colors) automatically? I'm creating a presentation and i love to have the colors of my code intact from eclipse IDE to my impress document
[05:16] <iam> how can i make realplayer to look for libraries in /usr/lib32 ?? it's giving error of wrong ELF as it looks in /usr/lib on my 64bit system
[05:17] <ChaosSaber> qin, how did you do it
[05:18] <qin> ChaosSaber: Do what?
[05:18] <wols> Kilgore_brass: sounds like a bad videocard driver. what card? also what happens if you pres ctrl+alt+f2 when you reopen the lid?
[05:18] <ChaosSaber> qin, I read that wrong, sorry
[05:19] <rileyp> I need help installing v4l after botching it up
[05:19] <rileyp> I get errors
[05:20] <qin> ChaosSaber: I canbe difficult talker today, have not slept well since a bit... Did the file imported to firefox bookmarks?
[05:20] <ChaosSaber> qin, it sure did
[05:20] <Kilgore_brass> I havent tried ctrl+alt+f2 and I'm not sure of the exact graphics card i haven't used this machine in like a year and I don't know the easiest way to find out as I have only been running this OS for a day.  Trying to find out now
[05:21] <ChaosSaber> qin, went in perfect
[05:21] <htmlinprogress> hi
[05:21] <qin> ChaosSaber: Strange...
[05:22] <ChaosSaber> Kilgore_brass, just look up the model of the machine
[05:22] <ChaosSaber> qin, why Strange?
[05:23] <Kilgore_brass> wols: nvidia geforce 9600m gt . Now I see my machine is telling me I don't have the most current driver installed, I'll see if that fixes it.
[05:24] <qin> ChaosSaber: Well, unexpected, in other hand, syntaxof that .html was so basic... ok, done then ;)
[05:24] <jiltdil> nvidia driver is activated but not in use,this is showing in my computer.How to overcome this problem?
[05:25] <ChaosSaber> qin, oh ok, I am glad you made the script, it was so much easier for me
[05:25] <pksadiq> jiltdil: which ubuntu?
[05:25] <jiltdil> pksadiq:natty
[05:25] <Kilgore_brass> jiltdil: I'm seeing the same thing.  Wondering if it has to do with my machine freezing when  i come back from suspend
[05:26] <pksadiq> jiltdil: enable compiz install compiz-settings-manager  , I think
[05:26] <ChaosSaber> jiltdil, my comp shows the same but I dont get locks up
[05:26] <parolang> Okay, sort of a newbie question, though I'm not really a newb.  But I plug my USB drive (2TB hard drive) in, how do I find it?  I can't find it in /dev/disk/ and dmesg doesn't really tell me where it is (it says "usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3") but I don't know how to interpret address 3 to get a mount point.  Any ideas?
[05:26] <pksadiq> !ccsm | jiltdil
[05:26] <turbo_> 6am , hungover, checked the garage, didn't crash the car, but, feel like hell, i was supposed to stop drinking
[05:26] <jiltdil> kilgore_brass:pksadiq: i think there is some issue related to nvidia in ubuntu
[05:27] <turbo_> man i need help
[05:27] <ChaosSaber> parolang, open up ur home folder and look at the side
[05:27] <jiltdil> kilgore_brass:pksadiq: also playing any video looks like greenish due to this
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> parolang, is the drive formatted?  "sudo fisk -l" will list all partitions the system sees
[05:27] <parolang> ChaosSaber: I don't use GNOME, and I don't think it does the automount thing if you aren't logged into GNOME.
[05:28] <Kilgore_brass> yeah i am just hoping that the current driver will fix it
[05:28] <ChaosSaber> parolang, oh ok
[05:28] <turbo_> cannot remember anything from last night except that i was calling all the blacks in the bar monkeys, and i am a white man in africa
[05:28] <turbo_> wow
[05:28] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Yeah, I don't think it's mounted.  I'm just trying to find the mount point to use.
[05:28] <pksadiq> jiltdil: how was the video when you had not installed nvidia driver?
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> parolang, "sudo fisk -l" will list all partitions the system sees
[05:29] <jiltdil> pksadiq: actually the driver is activated and in use befor some days,but from last 15days it is showing it is activated and not in use
[05:29] <imaudi> is there a way to drag windows between monitors?  it just wants to snap them to the side
[05:30] <jiltdil> pksadiq: and when it is in use the video will looks fine
[05:30] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Hmm...okay, I'll try to figure out which is the right one then.
[05:30] <arooni-mobile> in 11.04 ; super + s zooms out to show me a view of all viewports.... how do i change that shortcut
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, to fix the blue/green tint issue - run "gsteramer-properties" click the video tab, then for Output select the No XV option
[05:30] <jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/screenshot4ge.png/
[05:30] <randyflagg> hey all, is there a log file i can check as to why 11.04 locks up on shutdown
[05:31] <arooni-mobile> how do i make workspace switcher launch from a different keystroke?
What is XV?
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, XVideo i believe
[05:31] <turbo_> how do i wipe my bum?
[05:31] <tigg> see me at your college campus, baggy full of adderalls
Where to run this
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, if the driver is working - just ignore the "not activated" message
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, "gsteamer-properties" in a terminal or alt+f2
[05:32] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Hmm...I get the same list whether or not the drive is plugged in.  This is a new drive, I haven't set it up in fstab or anything.
[05:32] <Kilgore_brass> jiltdil: I havent had any issues with video so I can't speak to that, I don't even really know what it means for the driver to be activated but not in use
 in termianl it is showing invalid command
[05:32] <parolang> ZykoticK9: And I'm not running Nautilus, which does the automount thing.
[05:32] <arooni-mobile> there is an app called "workspace switcher" that sits on the unity dock.  when launched it will zoom out and show a view of all of my desktops available in desktop wall; ; i want to do this from a different key command; how?
[05:33] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, um... sorry don't know the fix then.
[05:33] <lonejack> hi, I'm using 11.04. I've an icon on slidebar(eclipse). How can I discover what application(where is located the application) an icon is referred to?
[05:33] <lonejack> thx
[05:33] <randyflagg> any ideas on the shutdown issue?
[05:33] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, guess it's not in 11.04???  strange.
 it is 11.04 natty narhwal
[05:34] <turbo_> :-p
[05:34] <pksadiq> jiltdil: try opening terminal and type gstreamer-properties
[05:34] <imaudi> ok I'm totally stumped..  when I boot into "Ubuntu" I just get a blank desktop with no UI or menus..  if I boot into "Ubuntu Classic", it works fine..  what could the problem be?
[05:35] <pksadiq> find gstreamer-properties | jiltdil
[05:35] <roellen> hello, what is available to detect intrusion? how to tell if someone is logging my keying online?
[05:35] <pksadiq> !find gstreamer-properties | jiltdil
[05:35] <Kilgore_brass> although I do think my download/installation of the current video driver is frozen and don't know what to do about it.  =/
[05:35] <pksadiq> !info gstreamer-properties | jiltdil
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> parolang, i'm not sure if this is your issue, but BIOS cannot recognize 2TB drives (but i figured it wouldn't be an issue until you tried to format, but maybe it is)
[05:35] <jiltdil> pksadiq: actually you have writeen above the wron comamnd  you have missspelled  see above this time you give the right one :)
[05:36] <Starminn> lonejack: Not sure if there's a simple way like you're thinking, as I don't use 11.04, but almost every application launcher can be found in /usr/bin
[05:37] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Hmm...not sure.  I'm just trying to find the mount point.  I know dmesg registers the device, and also lsusb sees it (as Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13fd:1617 Initio Corporation).  I just don't know what /dev/ entry it corresponds to.
[05:37] <arooni-mobile> how do i change the key shortcut for workspace switcher?
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> parolang, "sudo fdisk -l" SHOULD be showing us the /dev entry???
[05:38] <chouchou> hello, pls how do we find location of file occurence in a system again ?
[05:38] <jiltdil> pksadiq: hm selecting no Xv also doenot solve the issue
[05:38] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Even if it is unmounted and not in fstab?
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> chouchou, "which" or "locate"
[05:38] <pksadiq> jiltdil: sorry :) now watching a movie :)
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> parolang, especially when it's not mounted ;)
[05:38] <chouchou> apart from locate, what else?
[05:38] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Because it isn't in there (the list is the same when I have it plugged in and when I unplug it).
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> chouchou, last resort is "find"
[05:39] <Kilgore_brass> is there a way to force close this "additional drivers" window that has frozen while trying to download and install the current driver for my graphics card? Or will that mess something up
[05:39] <parolang> ZykoticK9: So how come dmesg and lsusb see it, but fdisk doesn't?
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> parolang, sorry i can't help then.  The dmesg you quoted earlier does show the device as being partially recognized, but if we don't get a /dev their either - it's not "really" working
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> parolang, i'm worried it's due to the 2tb size (but I'm really not sure)
[05:41] <lonejack> Stammin, I solved by mean of menu manager(for you knowledge)... and thank you!
[05:41] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Okay, thanks.  I'll continue troubleshooting, trying it on another computer to see if the disk is to blame.  I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my ignorance to blame :)
[05:41] <vandemar> will ubuntu by default handle a usb connection to a cable modem as just another network interface?
[05:43] <bobweaver> vandemar, there is one way to find out
[05:43] <bobweaver> vandemar, try and let us know what happens
[05:44] <erbun> yea thats an interesting question
[05:44] <bobweaver> I dont think that it would work cuz there is no nic card
[05:45] <bobweaver> network interface card
[05:45] <pikkles> wearethewalrus
[05:46] <erbun> yes but USBs can be used as NICs, Usually its a pain to set up tho.  Interesting to see if Ubuntu would recognize what you are trying to do and do it without all the usual hassle
[05:47] <bobweaver> erbun, you would have to change the file system
[05:47] <bobweaver> ?
[05:47] <vandemar> bobweaver: I would if I had a cable modem w/usb port nearby :(
[05:48] <TaZeR> ubuntu rocks my world
[05:48] <pcypher> has anyone had luck getting 5.1 audio with the realteck drivers in 10.10?
[05:48] <pcypher> sorry realtek*
[05:48] <pksadiq> !sorround
[05:49] <erbun> bobweaver, in the past I've only had to set up a loopback from the USB connection to the existing NIC.  I personally don't think it will work, but hell, I'm far from an expert on the matter
[05:49] <pksadiq> !surround
[05:49] <pcypher> pksadiq: thanks... I will take a look!
[05:49] <update> hello
[05:49] <BluesKaj> pcypher, it's not so much the drivers as your alsamixer settings in the spdif ctrl
[05:50] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Looks like I'm going to be contacting support, Windows 7 isn't registering it either (on another computer).
[05:50] <bobweaver> any one know anything about mics here ?
[05:50] <bobweaver> interneal
[05:50] <pcypher> BluesKaj: I tried alsamixer, but it would not load.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> parolang, i imagine it's the BIOS limitation you are hitting.  Best of luck!
[05:50] <pcypher> Im ssh'd to my box ill grab the error... <--at work
[05:50] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[05:51] <update> whats the difference between ubuntu and windows 7
[05:51] <update> ?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> pcypher, then install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[05:51] <kata> i installed ubuntu in windows on c partition but i am not able to acess files inside my c partion any suggestions
[05:51] <pcypher> well crap... now its working somehow
[05:51] <parolang> ZykoticK9: Thanks.
[05:51] <parolang> kata: Uh oh.
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> kata, using Wubi you mean -- try /host or host in one of the menus (i think it's host, could be wrong)
[05:52] <pcypher> BluesKaj: I did... that was the 3rd thing I tried. 1. compile and installl drivers from realtek... - lost stereo sound.
[05:52] <gulzar> I want to install Libre-office from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. How to do so? In synaptic CD is added and in repositories it is checked...
[05:52] <pcypher> then edit config to add hda intel
[05:52] <pcypher> no dice
[05:52] <pcypher> then removed pulse audio as suggested...
[05:53] <pcypher> no dive
[05:53] <pcypher> dice*
[05:53] <pcypher> ill give this a shot now
[05:53] <BluesKaj> pcypher, no , alsa-base and utils are the default drivers for most soundcards
[05:53] <pcypher> that was the last step I tried before coming to work
[05:54] <gulzar> I want to install Libre-office from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. How to do so? In synaptic CD is added and in repositories it is checked...
[05:54] <IdleOne> gulzar: open Software Center, search for libreoffice and click install
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> gulzar, FYI you can't use a LiveCD as a repository
[05:54] <BluesKaj> !realtek | pcypher
[05:54] <pcypher> BlueKaj: tried this
[05:54] <pcypher> http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2011/02/alsa-1024-in-ubuntu-1010.html
[05:55] <jiltdil> opening any video with vlc shows the video greenish How to get rid of this
[05:55] <gulzar> ZykoticK9:OK
[05:55] <bobweaver> how do I find my internal mic not under lspci or lsusb where is it?
[05:55] <pcypher> I have seen people say that back proting to lucid wll fix, but I will lose newest ati radeon drivers
[05:55] <bobweaver> where does the kernel see it lsmic?
[05:55] <pksadiq> jiltdil: what about mplayer or totem?
[05:55] <C1iFF> Hi guys, I'm having trouble updating Ubuntu 10.10 64 For starters, my GRUB gives 'error 9 no splash found' and wont update to let me choose new kernels... Can any1 help??
[05:55] <bobweaver> No manual entry for lsmic
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, in VLC - Tools menu / Preferences / Video - Output dropdown - test if one of the other options works
[05:57] <pksadiq> jiltdil: if you have edited preferences reset to default
[05:57] <vandemar> bobweaver: individual sound jacks are not separate devices.  there is usually only one device per set of outputs.  One for analog, one for digital, possibly one for hdmi
[05:57] <bobweaver> C1iFF, have you tried fsck -y /dev/what ever hard driver
[05:57] <amit> pksadiq:sorry i was disconnet due to net problem ;(
[05:57] <bobweaver> how do I know that the mods listes ?
[05:58] <bobweaver> I see nothing under lsmod
[05:58] <bobweaver> for a mic
[05:58] <pksadiq> amit: What? sorry I didn't understand
[05:58] <parolang> Is the Athlon Neo considered 64-bit?
[05:58] <amit> pksadiq:sorry nothing,Any idea about this problem
[05:59] <pksadiq> bobweaver: in sound preferences select the working connector in Input
[05:59] <roellen> hello, what is available to detect intrusion? how to tell if someone is logging my keying online?
[05:59] <bobweaver> vandemar, my lsmodhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/632829/
[05:59] <bobweaver> roellen, wireshark sees everythign
[06:00] <roellen> bobweaver: thks, will check it out.
[06:00] <C1iFF> bobweaver: no, so far I'm looking at its config files at /etc/default and noticed one was altered, but as I rewrote it back to normal, the error remained. Exactly which driver should I name in fsck?
[06:00] <arunkumar413> hi i'm using problems with my ZTE k3570-z 3G usb mobile broadband connection. i have to unplug and plug the device several times to connect to internet. here is the contents of the sys log http://pastebin.com/kUvZrVsE
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> roellen, rkhunter can scan your system for rootkits etc
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> roellen, snort is an actual "intrusion detection system", i believe it is rather complicated however
[06:01] <bobweaver> pksadiq, http://img813.imageshack.us/i/screenshot14m.png/
[06:01] <roellen> ZykoticK9: thks, what's your opinion of wireshark?
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> roellen, wireshark is a network traffic scanner
[06:02] <roellen> ZykoticK9: it will help me detect intrusion?
[06:03] <ZykoticK9> roellen, it's really good - but i'm not sure it's what you're looking for - you'd need to know quite a bit of networking to actually get much benefit from wireshark
[06:03] <pksadiq> bobweaver: in the pannel dont' you see the volum control applet? right click there, and select sound preferences> Input
[06:03] <BluesKaj> pcypher, my setup uses alsa and vlc as the player . For DD and DTS digital streams are more reliant on the player settings for the spdif .look for dev-0 in your audio settings in vlc to cxapture the digital otput to your DAC
[06:03] <bobweaver> pksadiq, of cource OI see it it does nothing
[06:03] <bobweaver> right click por left
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> roellen, snort?  ya i believe so, but i've only used it on a dedicated firewall box, never as a stand alone package.  if you go down that road - good luck to you (would probably be a good project/learning experience)
[06:04] <C1iFF> bobweaver, I'm trying to find the original splash GRUB image (or the link to it in a config file) so I can alter it and see what the problem is. Any ideas on where/how to find it??
[06:04] <roellen> ZykoticK9: the concern is how much it will slow down the system, or block genuine request.
[06:04] <BluesKaj> it's under tools/preferences/audio , choose alsa output , pcypher
[06:04] <bobweaver> cliff man fsck
[06:05] <bobweaver> C1iFF, man fsck
[06:05] <arunkumar413> hi i'm having problems with my ZTE k3570-z 3G usb mobile broadband connection. i have to unplug and plug the device several times to connect to internet. here is the contents of the sys log http://pastebin.com/kUvZrVsE
[06:05] <pksadiq> bobweaver: did you check selecting different connectors at Input ?
[06:05] <bobweaver> pksadiq, internal mic
[06:05] <pcypher> Thanks BlueKaj: i am looking now
[06:05] <hamnegga> I'm having an issue with bz2 archives, and I can't untar them:  I've been using tar -xvjf <filename> but I'm getting errors for every bz2 I try...  Can anyone help?
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> roellen, not really sure???  but it was running on a very low powered box in my case (was a Smoothwall install)
[06:06] <roellen> bobweaver, ZykoticK9 : is portsentry recommendable?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> roellen, ? never used it
[06:06] <bobweaver> roellen, ssecurity is a learning curve
[06:06] <roellen> it is, indeed.
[06:06] <bobweaver> think about noscript
[06:06] <bobweaver> on mozilla
[06:06] <bobweaver> proxychains
[06:06] <pksadiq> bobweaver: there are different options, isn't it? select and check other options, you might be helped
[06:06] <bobweaver> tor
[06:07] <bobweaver> roellen, and squide
[06:08] <evanation> hi! sorry my english! Problem btrfs! Who help me?
[06:09] <evanation> I need tune2fs -m 0 me btrfs volume
[06:09] <roellen> bobweaver: squide? what's that?
[06:09] <evanation> but this fail
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> !info squid
[06:10] <evanation> please! help me
[06:10] <htmlinprogress> i have a  computer that  is a p4 2.3  778 mb and a somewhat newbie  linux user will be using it, web and office base.... on dail-up  what os can i use  so i can convince her to stay with linux
[06:10] <arooni-mobile> is there a reason when i set workrave window to always be on top on all  workspaces that when i move workspaces; after awhile; that window is not on top anymore?
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> evanation, notice btrfs isn't in this list: "tune2fs  -  adjust  tunable  filesystem  parameters  on  ext2/ext3/ext4"
[06:11] <rileyp> htmlinprogress on ubuntu one reccomends ubuntu
[06:11] <dr0pb3ar> I have a questions: I bought a new 500GB hard drive today and broght it home and reformatted it straight away as ext3 now when I try to put data onto it I get this " Error while copying. The folder "XXXX" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to create it in the destination
[06:11] <evanation> ZykoticK9, ofcourse
[06:12] <evanation> ZykoticK9, how to do it on btrfs?
[06:12] <securityxxxpert> Anybody have a fix for this "11.04 Wireless is disabled by hardware switch"  I saw this on my Gateway FX laptop for both the internal wireless card, and my usb ASUS card
[06:12] <evanation> analog tune2fs
[06:12] <htmlinprogress> rileyp,  lol duh ...   but im guessing its to heavy of a os / gui
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, edit the permission on the mount point
[06:12] <rileyp> all versions of linux are good its just 20 year computers use with windows amounts to person who knows everything but knows nothingll
[06:12] <dr0pb3ar> how do I do that?
[06:12] <voxcroix> can anyone enter to the #python channel?
[06:12] <syrinx_> securityxxxpert: theres probably a hardware switch/button that it turning wifi off
[06:12] <ChaosSaber> !paste
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, do you know where it's mounted?  "mount" in a terminal if you aren't sure.
[06:13] <securityxxxpert> syrinx: correct but it's on I double/tripled check
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "ls -l /where/its/mounted"
[06:13] <evanation> ZykoticK9, You help me?
[06:13] <htmlinprogress> rileyp,  huh ???
[06:13] <rileyp> htmlinprogress,  use xubuntu
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> evanation, nope - i don't use btrfs
[06:13] <rice> Hi, a vim plugin clang_complete works well in ubuntu10.10, but doesn't in ubuntu11.04, can you help me?
[06:13] <voxcroix> why #python Room cannot enter???
[06:14] <dr0pb3ar> I know where it is mounted. how do I change the permissions?
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> !register > voxcroix
[06:14] <hamnegga> htmlinprogress. you should use linux mint, probably debian or even a lesser demanding desktop env. such as lxde
[06:14] <ChaosSaber> I get this when trying to install sumthing http://paste.ubuntu.com/632837/
[06:14] <htmlinprogress> rileyp,  what about debian the source of ubuntu ?
[06:14] <rileyp> light and add software centre and one colud use pretty  gui to select other packages
[06:14] <evanation> ZykoticK9, =(
[06:14] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, man chmod
[06:14] <voxcroix> thx
[06:14] <hamnegga> can anyone help with my bz2 file tar problem
[06:14] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, man sudo
[06:14] <dr0pb3ar> oh ok
[06:14] <rileyp> x ubuntu even plain will run fine on p4
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> ChaosSaber, you can't use apt-get to install a bin file!
[06:15] <update> how can i gain remote access to my computer through android phone//
[06:15] <ChaosSaber> Ohh
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> !java | ChaosSaber
[06:15] <rileyp> hamna install unp sudo apt-get install unp then unp filename done
[06:15] <ChaosSaber> thats what I get for trusting google lol
[06:16] <rileyp> hamnegga,  install unp sudo apt-get install unp then unp filename done
[06:16] <htmlinprogress> hamngga,  linux mint ? what gui does that use?
[06:16] <ChaosSaber> ZykoticK9, Thanks
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> ChaosSaber, FYI - rpm = RedHat Package Management
[06:16] <rileyp> u may need to install some dependencies as well but it wil say whats missing eg bunzip if you need it etc
[06:17] <htmlinprogress> update,  good question i have been wanting to know myself,,,  so what are you try to do ?
[06:17] <ChaosSaber> Zyko also how would I install a torr prog
[06:17] <ChaosSaber> dang it my tab key didnt work
[06:17] <rileyp> htmlinprogress, update use ssh
[06:17] <hamnegga> thank you rileyp - Is there just an issue with tar bz2 archives in amd64?
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> !tor > ChaosSaber
[06:18] <htmlinprogress> rileyp,  whats ssh ?
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> !pm | voxcroix, dr0pb3ar
[06:18] <C_Smith> Hey, I'm trying to clone and compile an ALSA plugin from git clone git://git.alsa-project.org/alsa-plugins.git alsa-plugins, and on gitcompile, I keep getting errors, I can pastebin them if needbe, could i get some help here?
[06:18] <ChaosSaber> ZykoticK9, Sorry
[06:19] <rice> err, how to remove mpi dependency?
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> ChaosSaber, why are you sorry?
[06:19] <rileyp> htmlinprogress, http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=android+phone+ssh&oq=android+phone+ssh&aq=f&aqi=g2g-v1g-b2&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=915l4808l0l17l17l0l3l3l0l336l2915l3.4.4.3l14&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2d8ca68137622c71&biw=1280&bih=827 1st hit
[06:20] <bobweaver> good tutorial about mixing sound and video for movies with ubuntu ???
[06:20] <ChaosSaber> I read the private msg wrong
[06:20] <ChaosSaber> Im kinda tired and reading things backwards, I mean't to say Thanks
[06:20] <dr0pb3ar> I am a bit confused... the mount point is /dev/sdcd1, in the permissions it says that the owner is root. at the bottom it says you are not the owner so you cannot change these permissions... I am the root user
[06:20] <arunkumar413> hi i'm having problems with my ZTE k3570-z 3G usb mobile broadband connection. i have to unplug and plug the device several times to connect to internet. here is the contents of the sys log http://pastebin.com/kUvZrVsE
[06:20] <C_Smith> should I pastebin the errors I'm getting from gitcompile?
[06:21] <rileyp> html a way of controling a remote pc via local pc
[06:21] <bobweaver> dropdrive, cd /wher/ever/the/path/is
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, if you ARE infact root - i can't help you.  type "whoami" in a terminal, does it say root?
[06:21] <hamnegga> anyone got xscreensaver to work from root?
[06:21] <bobweaver> dropdrive, then
[06:21] <arunkumar413> please help me to connect in a single dial
[06:21] <rileyp> or android phone....
[06:21] <bobweaver> dropdrive, sudo chmod -x /where/ever/the/file/is
[06:21] <rileyp> htmlinprogress,  SSH is a way of controling a remote pc via local pc
[06:21] <dr0pb3ar> it just gives my username
[06:21] <rileyp> htmlinprogress, or android phone....
[06:22] <Nobgul-bnc> dr0pb3ar, type sudo -i
[06:22] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, good!
[06:22] <alphaex> imaudi : Do you think the apple wireless keyboard can be use in pc (ubuntu 10.10 )
[06:22] <AlephHaz> htmlinprogress: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html there's some help there for install and configuring your own server on ubuntu if you'd like to try it out
[06:22] <ZykoticK9> Nobgul-bnc, NO.  dr0pb3ar don't do that - or again, i can't help you.
[06:22] <alphaex>  Do you guys think the apple wireless keyboard can be use in pc (ubuntu 10.10 )??
[06:22] <AlephHaz> installing*
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, /dev/sdcd1 doesn't sound right!  either /dev/sdc1 or /dev/sdd1 would.
[06:23] <C_Smith> can anyone help me with my git problems?
[06:23] <dr0pb3ar> sorry, that was a typo. it is sdc1
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, also, neither of those are mount point - they're the device names
[06:24] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, where is sdc1 mounted? if it's mounted.
[06:24] <anonboo> alphaex, Have you tried?
[06:24] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, have you tried chmod -x /where /ever the file is
[06:24] <BluesKaj> alphaex, mu wireless KB and mouse are MS and they work out of the box on Linux
[06:24] <BluesKaj> my
[06:24] <spy-door-man> anyone in here play minecraft?
[06:24] <paul_> randyflagg
[06:24] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, make sure you are in that dir
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, be careful of what bobweaver is recommending.
[06:25] <AlephHaz> spy-door-man: you looking for server support?
[06:25] <randyflagg> any body have any idea why 11.04 locks up when I shutdown normally but if I halt from terminal it works fine?
[06:25] <BluesKaj> alphaex, mav is unix ., so chances are they will work
[06:25] <arooni-mobile> is there a reason when i set workrave window to always be on top on all  workspaces that when i move workspaces; after awhile; that window is not on top anymore?
[06:25] <spy-door-man> yeah kinda, just wondering what the easiest way to have it autostart would be
[06:25] <dr0pb3ar> what do I type to find the mount point
[06:25] <dr0pb3ar> ?
[06:25] <bobweaver> ZykoticK9, why
[06:25] <AlephHaz> spy-door-man: i'll PM you
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "mount"
[06:25] <spy-door-man> thanks
[06:26] <BluesKaj> err mac
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> bobweaver, 'cause -x is NOT what they need!
[06:26] <bobweaver> then what is the #
[06:26] <dr0pb3ar> I also wrote in sudo -i before when someone said to do it... can I undo that?
[06:26] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, exit
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, yes type "exit"
[06:27] <randyflagg> bueller???
[06:27] <dr0pb3ar> okay... then I write in mount?
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, get used to using "sudo" properly it's how Ubuntu has been designed to work (that's instead of "sudo -i") - don't worry i'll tell you when we need it
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, in a terminal type "mount" yes
[06:28] <ZykoticK9> !pm | randyflagg
[06:28] <dr0pb3ar> done
[06:28] <alphaex> BluesKaj: so you think mac KB canbe use in linux right ?
[06:28] <C_Smith> can anyone help me with these gitcompile errors I'm getting?
[06:29] <C_Smith> I can pastebin them
[06:29] <dr0pb3ar> what am I looking for in this output?
[06:29] <pksadiq> C_Smith: paste and ask, somebody might help
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, look for the sdc1 and it shoulds say where it's mounted
[06:30] <bobweaver> pksadiq, still nothing with the mic
[06:30] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "mount | grep sdc" would give JUST the one line we need (probably)
[06:30] <C_Smith> k, I'm getting these errors found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632841/ when doing gitcompile on a clone of the ALSA Plugins git, can someone help?
[06:31] <MadHaTTer666> where the hell am i now?
[06:31] <dr0pb3ar> ok, I have that now. so where it says dev/sdc1 on "/media/......" that is the mount point?
[06:31] <pikkles> anyone knw where to go for help with tor?
[06:31] <dr0pb3ar> what do I do from there?
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, could you do me a favour - when you replay to me could you include my NICK, type "Z" "y" "TAB" to autocomplete it (this way it gets highlighted red for me to see easily)
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, ok /media/WHAT?
[06:32] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, like this
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, perfect ;)
[06:33] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, /media/6698dedd-8871-42a4-96ac-60d65c78fcc5 type ext3
[06:33] <pksadiq> C_Smith: you might have to install autoconf,automake etc
[06:33] <C_Smith> hmmmm, k
[06:33] <JoshDreamland1> My monitor doesn't like my input. How can I set the resolution from TTY?
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "ls -l /media/6698dedd-8871-42a4-96ac-60d65c78fcc5" then paste the output (should only be one line i hope)
[06:34] <JoshDreamland1> I can't see a thing from X.
[06:34] <JoshDreamland1> It's putting out video, but the monitor rejects it. So I can't navigate to change the resolution.
[06:34] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2011-06-26 12:56 lost+found
[06:34] <bobweaver> dr0pb3ar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:34] <dr0pb3ar> sorry. too late
[06:34] <bobweaver> to late
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[06:35] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, sorry my bad "ls -ld /media/6698dedd-8871-42a4-96ac-60d65c78fcc5"
[06:35] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-06-26 12:56 /media/6698dedd-8871-42a4-96ac-60d65c78fcc5
[06:36] <PythonSnake> Hi
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "sudo chmod go+w /media/6698dedd-8871-42a4-96ac-60d65c78fcc5" should fix it ;)
[06:36] <PythonSnake> Where can I get GMA HD drivers ?
[06:37] <pksadiq> Bobstro: I don't know whether this helps you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678263
[06:38] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, yes that has worked. thanks heaps for your help. what does chmod go+w mean?
[06:38] <C_Smith> so how would I go about installing those? I tried sudo apt-get and getlibs, and they didn't work, couldn't find them
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, chmod - changes permission.  the g and o are Group and Other, the + means add, and w = write
[06:39] <pksadiq> C_Smith: apt-get install autoconf automake          ect
[06:39] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, cool. thanks again!
[06:39] <pksadiq> !build | C_Smith
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, glad to help
[06:40] <JoshDreamland1> Reboot fixed it. Never mind.
[06:41] <Dejavou42> Does anyone know a way to manually connect wireless via terminal without using wpa_supplicant?
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> Dejavou42, it is possible use /etc/network/interfaces - but DON'T ask me how
[06:43] <Dejavou42> ZykoticK9: How? :)
[06:43] <ZykoticK9> Dejavou42, also might depend on what encryption you're using.
[06:43] <Dejavou42> ZykoticK9: wpa, and therein lies the problem
[06:43] <ZykoticK9> Dejavou42, ya doubt it's possible then.  But see some info at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[06:45] <ZykoticK9> Dejavou42, i have the suspicion it would only work with open/WEP only.  Good luck.
[06:45] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried reinstalling, and even purged it yet the error persists. The error Banshee gives is: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[06:45] <Dejavou42> ZykoticK9, thanks I just may be changing my network encryption. :)
[06:46] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, (sorry but every time you post your issue I keep thinking) "that's what you get for using a mono based app" --- sorry, I realize my comment IS NOT HELPFUL.  I just really hate mono.
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, best of luck, i hope you get a solution.
[06:47] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Fair enough, lol. Just curious -- what's wrong with Mono? (I don't know anything about it really so I can't get offended, haha. I know how some people get with their favorite language(s))
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, mono is .NET from Microsoft
[06:48] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Aha, that' right. How is it mono-based? Written in part with it?
[06:48] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, ya, banshee uses mono
[06:48] <strangr> how small can i make ubuntu?
[06:49] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: Well why the heck would they do that? That seems incredibly stupid, especially seeing as it's open-source, used for Linux, etc..
[06:49] <strangr> i would like to use it in an embedded system
[06:49] <Starminn> strangr: From the start I think the smallest you could go is either Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Minimal
[06:49] <ZykoticK9> strangr, use 'mini' install and it's pretty tiny around 2GB i'd imagine - but that's with NOTHING installed.
[06:49] <strangr> i am ready to drop the gui
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: A minimal install is a *lot* less than 2 GiB.
[06:50] <Yusuke> lol
[06:50] <strangr> now how small do i get
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> strangr, see Jordan_U's comment.  It was a wild guess on my part.
[06:51] <strangr> Jordan_U, how small can i get with just the kernel and a terminal
[06:51] <Jordan_U> strangr: You can get below 100 MiB. The question is what you actually want to be able to do.
[06:51] <Starminn> strangr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:51] <strangr> control a device attached to a serial port
[06:51] <fweezel> I can't figure out how to get this to run the resolution the monitor's capable of, it refuses to go higher than 1024x768 and whenever I tried messing with xorg.conf it made things worse
[06:52] <magn3ts> Can someone remind me again how Ubuntu 11.04 shipped with Empathy unable to remember new passwords properly?
[06:52] <magn3ts> Does that not stagger anyone else?
[06:52] <pksadiq> fweezel: using nvidia?
[06:53] <strangr> Starminn, thanks for the link
[06:53] <fweezel> yeah
[06:53] <pksadiq> fweezel: install nvidia-settings
[06:53] <fweezel> I think I might have done that, would it show up as an option in system settings?
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, do you happen to be talking about IRC passwords?
[06:53] <Starminn> strangr: Yep. :)
[06:53] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, any passwords in Empathy, if you change them... the changed pw fails to persist in empathy
[06:54] <magn3ts> this happens for my jabber accounts
[06:54] <pksadiq> fweezel: yeah, system>administration
[06:54] <strangr> if i can get to 100 mb its great
[06:54] <strangr> thanks all
[06:54] <Jordan_U> strangr: If that's all that you need then it can be easily done in less than 50 MiB, that would require a lot of customization and it's questionable at that point if it even matters that you're using "Ubuntu" as it could be done with nothing but a kernel and (modified) initramfs.
[06:54] <fweezel> I have "NVIDIA X Server Settings" open right now
[06:55] <strangr> Jordan_U, yeah all i need is bash up and running
[06:55] <PythonSnake> strangr: You can give Puppy linux a try
[06:55] <strangr> PythonSnake, will look at that
[06:55] <PythonSnake> strangr: http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[06:56] <strangr> PythonSnake, thanks
[06:56] <fweezel> this monitor can do 1440x900, but I can't figure out how to get it to display in that resolution
[06:56] <milamber> strangr: is it going to be an embedded project?
[06:57] <PythonSnake> strangr: np
[06:57] <strangr> milamber, yeah
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, strangr just looked at a virgin Debian Netinstall and it weighs in at 739MB - so I'd guess Ubuntu Mini would be at least that large.
[06:57] <milamber> strangr: ubuntu *probably* isn't the ideal solution (as has been mentioned), you may want to look at rtems (www.rtems.com)
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, but you're right that is "a *lot* less" then my 2GB guess
[06:57] <pksadiq> fweezel: select X server display configuration
[06:58] <CountDeMonet> What's the best way to incorporate volume control on Natty if I'm using OSS4 instead of ALSA?
[06:58] <fweezel> pksadiq: the highest it'll let me choose is 1360x768
[06:58] <strangr> Zykoyic9, yeah lol
[06:59] <strangr> ZykoticK9, yeah lol
[06:59] <pksadiq> fweezel: sorry, I don't know more, have you installed the nvidia-current driver itself?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: A netinstall allows you to install as much or as little as you want. And strangr barely even needs an "install" at all (may not even need a root filesystem from the sound of it).
[06:59] <fweezel> I think I did, but I don't know if it worked
[07:00] <strangr> Jordan_U, whats a netinstall
[07:00] <C_Smith> ok, I've installed that stuff, now I'm getting a couple of error 1's and an error 2.... here's the full output in a Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632853/
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> strangr, netinstall is Debian's term for what Ubuntu calls Mini - they are almost IDENTICAL actually
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> strangr, playing with mini is what led me to Debian
[07:01] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, I have another question for you. I have another drive (same size) that I am having some problems with. On gparted it won't let me unmount it to make any changes. I think it may be because of the same thing as before
[07:01] <strangr> ZykoticK9, ok got that
[07:01] <fweezel> I'm gonna guess that my problem has part to do with the fact that the monitor isn't telling the computer anything about what kind of monitor it is at all
[07:02] <milamber> strangr: damn small linux is a 50mb full desktop install
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, can we take gparted out of the situation?  can we umount it from command line instead?
[07:02] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, it mount point it /media/my passport
 cant get a downloadable version for dsl
[07:02] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, of course. I just don't know how... with fdisk?
[07:02] <C_Smith> the reason I need to install this ALSA git is for Starcraft 2 to have sound.
[07:03] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, not fdisk no!  (careful with that command BTW!)
[07:03] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, I think something must have happened that made all my permissions go screwy
[07:03] <C_Smith> is there a repository for ALSA from git?
[07:03] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, OK
[07:03] <Starminn> strangr: Found this. Might be helpful, might not: http://bengross.com/smallunix/
[07:03] <Starminn> strangr: Note that some of those are FreeBSD, though
[07:03] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, "sudo umount /media/My\ Passport" perhaps?  could you give me the full path name?  spaces are kinda tricky in GNU/Linux
[07:04] <milamber> strangr: what do you mean?
[07:04] <rileyp> I bhave stuffed up v4l can anyone help
[07:04] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, yeah okay... I think that is the full path name... I will try that
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, you need to close ANY programs/terminals that where using that before we can umount it BTW - will complain about "busy"
[07:04] <rileyp> make fails
[07:04] <strangr> milamber, those links are dead
[07:04] <strangr> i m not able to get damn small linux
[07:05] <rileyp> strangr why not
[07:05] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, ok... hang on a sec
[07:05] <rileyp> strangr, I have it on a usb stick and it works
[07:06] <milamber> strangr: torrent not an option?
[07:06] <rileyp> even with wireless :D
[07:06] <strangr> milamber: dunno if ill get seeds
[07:06] <rileyp> puppy is another alternative
[07:06] <rileyp> strangr,  perhaps
[07:06] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, sorry. dropped out for a sec there. what do you want me to do?
[07:06] <milamber> strangr: i am sure you will. it's pretty common. and it shouldn't be too bad as it's only 50mb
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, try the "sudo umount /media/My\ Passport"
[07:07] <strangr> milamber, givin that a try too :)
[07:08] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, has told me it's busy (like you said)
[07:08] <rileyp> drop bear why not just make a dir add the mount to fstab and reboot
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, did you close gparted and anything else that would be using it?
[07:08] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, yep... all done
[07:08] <C_Smith> so, can anyone help me with these error 1 and error 2s?
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, in your terminal - type "cd" "ENTER" to switch to your home directory as well
[07:08] <dr0pb3ar> rileyp, thanks but ZykoticK9 is helping me out with it at the moment
[07:09] <dr0pb3ar> done
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, try the umount again
[07:09] <C_Smith> I have a pastebin of the terminal messages here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632853/
[07:09] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, ok
[07:09] <PythonSnake> I need gma hd drivers for linux anyone know how to get them please?
[07:09] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, xorg edgers PPA?
[07:09] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, sudo umount /media/My\ Passport returned that it was busy
[07:09] <PythonSnake> ?
[07:10] <PythonSnake> xorg edgers PPA ?
[07:10] <C_Smith> you're talking about an Intel GMA GPU, right?
[07:10] <PythonSnake> yeah
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, easiest thing would be to log out/back in again - but something is still using the drive
[07:11] <pksadiq> .whois
[07:11] <pksadiq> sorry
[07:11] <C_Smith> Pythonsnakke, let me get the PPA page for ya, sec
[07:11] <strangr> milamber: got some peers on dsl-4.4.10 thanks i almost forgot abt torrent
[07:11] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, should I reboot? I can't think of anything that would be using it
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, reboot would work
[07:12] <C_Smith> Pythonsnake, here is the repo for a lot of things related to xorg (the Graphics server): https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <milamber> strangr: beauty of the interwebs :)
[07:12] <C_Smith> it also includes some GMA drivers.
[07:12] <strangr> milamber :)
[07:13] <dr0pb3ar> ZykoticK9, I just tried to transfer a small file to my passport and it worked okay... it's just unmounting that isn't working... I will reboot now... wait out
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, k
[07:13] <PythonSnake> C_Smith: thanks
[07:13] <PythonSnake> Are drivers packages ?
[07:14] <Guest79988> is anyone there?
[07:14] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, there a very recent Intel driver in there, let me get the name of it.
[07:15] <wols> PythonSnake: ubuntu already comes with GMA HD drivers for X
[07:15] <Guest79988> For some reason, I can't change directories using the cd command...any thoughts?
[07:15] <wols> Guest79988: pastebin the command you try and its full output
[07:16] <Guest79988> ok..one moment
[07:16] <dr0pb3ar_> ZykoticK9, I have rebooted and unmounted successfully
[07:16] <ZykoticK9> Guest79988, cApItAlS are important and spaces/ are/ a/ pain.
[07:16] <PythonSnake> wols: ok thx
[07:17] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar, nice ;)
[07:17] <Guest79988> When I issue the following:cd /Documents
[07:17] <Guest79988> bash: cd: /Documents: No such file or directory
[07:17] <ZykoticK9> Guest79988, "cd ~/Documents"
[07:17] <soreau> Guest79988: Try cd ~/Downloads
[07:17] <Guest79988> ok
[07:18] <soreau> Guest79988: The tilde (~) means your home directory
[07:18] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, I couldn't find it, but I know it's in there because I'm using it (I have an Intel GMA 4500 MHD myself) so if you add the ppa to your sources, you'll get it.
[07:18] <Guest79988> so, you HAVE to use the tilda to change directories???
[07:18] <dr0pb3ar_> ZykoticK9, I am trying to reformat these drives to use as random storage drives for video's music and that sort of stuff... what is the best file system to use for this purpose?
[07:18] <PythonSnake> C_Smith: What is PPA ?
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> Guest83801, if you where in you home directory "cd Documents" would work.  the / at the beginning means "root" and that folder /Documents doesn't exist (by default)
[07:19] <Guest79988> i am in my home
[07:19] <PythonSnake> C_Smith: And it's GMA HD not GMA 4500 MHD
[07:19] <wols> Guest79988: no you don't. but you can't use just put "/" at the beginning since that means "go from / directory"
[07:19] <Guest79988> that's the problem
[07:19] <soreau> Guest79988: No, it's just a shortcut instead of typing $HOME/Documents or /home/$USER/Documents
[07:19] <wols> Guest79988: if you are in your home directory, simply "cd Documents" works
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar_, i'd say ext4 - others may disagree ;)
[07:19] <soreau> Guest79988: If you are in home, then you only need to do cd Documents
[07:19] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, PPA is a form of a repository, and I was just saying my GPU.
[07:19] <wols> dr0pb3ar_: depends if only ubuntu will access it or other OSes too
[07:19] <soreau> Guest79988: The / means your root directory
[07:19] <dr0pb3ar_> ZykoticK9, prob just ubuntu
[07:20] <Guest79988> so, if i am in home dir, ?<dir> should work, right?  it's not
[07:20] <Guest79988> i meant ?dir
[07:20] <soreau> PythonSnake: PPA = Personal Package Archive
[07:20] <wols> Guest79988: it does work. "cd dir"
[07:20] <Guest79988> i mean?
[07:20] <jrib> Guest79988: what do you mean by "work"?  What are you trynig to do?
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar_, OH ya if you want to use the drive with MS or Apple - use FAT or NTFS
[07:20] <Guest79988> ok
[07:20] <wols> jrib: trying to use cd /dir   to change directories inside his ~
[07:20] <PythonSnake> C_SMith: How to add PPA to my sources ?
[07:20] <milamber> Guest79988: the command 'ls' will give you a list of files and directories. you can cd into any directory beneath you or go up one directory by using cd ..
[07:20] <wols> Guest79988: your mistake was the "/" you put in front
[07:21] <C_Smith> to anyone who can help me, I need help with some error 1 and error 2 coming from gitcompile, I have the contents of what goes on in the terminal here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632853/
[07:21] <dr0pb3ar_> ZykoticK9, if its just for ubuntu is ext4 good to go? what's xfs used for?
[07:21] <CountDeMonet> How can I add a volume slider to Unity that controls OSS4 volume?
[07:21] <Guest79988> i am in home dir... i type cd /Documents...then i get: bash: cd: /Documents: No such file or directory
[07:21] <Guest79988> same for all dirs in home
[07:21] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar_, ext4 (or ext3) has the most support in GNU/Linux right now
[07:21] <westz> okay i'm sick of not being able to use torbutton, can i have two instances of firefox installed on ubuntu?
[07:21] <jrib> Guest79988: / is like c:/ in windows... you don't want /
[07:22] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:22] <soreau> Guest79988: Right, that's because /Documents does not exist. See the contents of / with 'ls /'
[07:22] <dr0pb3ar_> ZykoticK9, righto, thanks again for all your help... much appreciated
[07:22] <wols> westz: you can, but you can also fix your tor button
[07:22] <ZykoticK9> dr0pb3ar_, glad to help
[07:22] <proq> I'm trying to ssh to my ubuntu servers.  the first two or three attempts work ok but then the server seems to just ignore any new ssh requests for the next 24 hours and rebooting the server does not help.  how do I make it keep working?
[07:22] <westz> wols, well firefox 5 broke a few more addons i had
[07:22] <Guest79988> yes, i did ls, but I cant' change to any of them using cd /<dir>
[07:23] <wols> proq: fail2ban or similar installed?
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> Guest79988, if you MUST you could use "cd /home/YOURUSERNAME/Docuements"
[07:23] <wols> Guest79988: cause "/" is WRONG
[07:23] <Guest79988> ok, do i do the same without the slash?
[07:23] <soreau> Guest79988: ls by itself will show you the contents of the current working directory. From there, you do 'cd ./Directory' or just 'cd Directory'
[07:24] <wols> Guest79988: if you are in your documents and settings under windows   "cd \downloads" doesn't work either, does it?
[07:24] <Guest79988> okay..i see now
[07:24] <Guest79988> thank you for helping a noob
[07:24] <PythonSnake> C_Smith: thanks
[07:24] <C_Smith> PythonSnake, no prob
[07:24] <ZykoticK9> wols, i'm holding you to the quote "cause "/" is WRONG" forever ;)
[07:25] <Guest79988> is this the correct chat channel for noobs, btw?
[07:25] <westz> wols, what query do i use to find some doc on using two instances, or maybe a link?
[07:25] <soreau> Guest79988: Yes for help with ubuntu
[07:26] <soreau> Guest79988: You can also try #ubuntu-beginners
[07:26] <Guest79988> well, you solved my prob, thx!!! (Only 1000 more to go...)
[07:26] <wols> westz: you install one as a package the other not as one. and make sure you use different profiles for each
[07:26] <soreau> ! who | Guest79988
[07:26] <Guest79988> ok
[07:26] <Becksta> hi
[07:27] <Becksta> somebody awake and ready to give help?
[07:27] <proq> wols: no
[07:27] <PythonSnake> yes
[07:27] <soreau> ! tab | Guest79988
[07:27] <PythonSnake> hi
[07:27] <soreau> ! help | Becksta
[07:27] <Becksta> ok
[07:27] <wols> proq: check your logs why it doesn't let you log in
[07:28] <ChaosSaber> PythonSnake, hi
[07:28] <Becksta> i have 2 hdd in raid mirrot mode, which i need to put into another homeserver. do i have to "stop" the raid before? or canb i just easily put them in the new server, as they are?
[07:28] <PythonSnake> ChaosSaber: Hi
[07:29] <soreau> Becksta: Probably a good idea to backup the data then do what you need to do
[07:29] <vandemar> Becksta: just make sure you shut the system down normally and the mirror will be intact.  However if you aren't careful, a screw up while setting up an existing mirror pair inside a new machine can trash the mirror
[07:30] <westz> wols, what would i search to find how to do this? "dual firefox ubuntu" gives me stuff about syncing a profile between a dual booting computer
[07:30] <Becksta> thats for sure and the reason for asking :)
[07:32] <Becksta> well then.... i will try.... thanks for feedback
[07:32] <wols> westz: I don't know what to search for. I told you how to do it, even when it's a bad thing to do, but you insist. if the extensions just don't want to run due to versioning numbers, change these instead or tell firefox to ignore the numbers and try to run it anyways
[07:32] <milamber> westz: you should probably try googling for "instances" ~ a quick google for me gave this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400280
[07:33] <OY1R> how do i make a user the owner of all subdirectories in a directory
[07:34] <wols> OY1R: with chown -R   see man chown
[07:34] <soreau> OY1R: As your normal user: sudo chown -R $USER /path/to/directory
[07:34] <Starminn> Is there a way to highlight text using the keyboard?
[07:34] <soreau> Starminn: Yes hold down shift
[07:35] <OY1R> soreau, will that give ownership to all subdirs also ?
[07:35] <Starminn> soreau: Thank you oh so very much! I had been trying CTRL. :)
[07:35] <soreau> OY1R: The -R stands for recursive
[07:35] <soreau> OY1R: It will recursively change ownership of all files and directories
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, i'm almost afraid to ask at this point, but what directory are you recursively changing the owner on?
[07:38] <OY1R> photorec recup dir's
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, ok cool
[07:38] <OY1R> they belong to root
[07:39] <OY1R> i want to mess with them without "sudo nautilus"
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, FYI you should use "sudo" with GUI apps, use "gksu" instead
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> s/should/shouldn't/
[07:40] <OY1R> ok?, what's the difference ?
[07:40] <rednose> Hi, all
[07:40] <ZykoticK9> !gksudo | OY1R
[07:41] <OY1R> thanks!
[07:41] <Starminn> soreau: How about to move that text around? I highlight it with Shift+ArrowKeys, but how can I move it with keyboard (if this is possible)?
[07:41] <OY1R> sound's like using sudo with gui's can mess up stuff real bad.
[07:42] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, it can
[07:42] <OY1R> i had no idea
[07:42] <rednose> Just installed 11.04 on fresh PC and it will not start. After GRUB prompt, all I get is blank screen
[07:42] <rednose> Video is ATI 8650
[07:42] <westz> wols, torbutton wont work with firefox 4+, its already known, though theres a beta version, it isnt stable. i only use tor to get around annoying filters at coffeeshops, so it's not like im in danger by using two installs
[07:43] <rednose> Is there any command options I should send to kernel?
[07:43] <vandemar> isn't the tor project releasing their own modified firefox versions or did they give up on that idea
[07:43] <OY1R> sudo chown -R $Reggy /media/Storage/ehdd
[07:43] <OY1R> chown: missing operand after `/media/Storage/ehdd
[07:43] <Cydd> guys
[07:43] <Cydd> google the word gay
[07:43] <Cydd> and look to the right :O
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, is reggy your user's name?
[07:43] <OY1R> yes
[07:44] <Starminn> Cydd: Not appropriate for this channel.
[07:44] <westz> vandemar, they had a version prebundled with vidalia and such but it wasnt anything really special
[07:44] <ZykoticK9> OY1R, "sudo chown -R reggy:reggy /media/Storeage/ehdd" then
[07:44] <souji> hi I just installed ubuntu but I am not able to play dvd
[07:44] <wols> OY1R: chonw -R Reggy:Reggy...
[07:44] <souji> what should i do
[07:44] <Starminn> Cydd (But that is pretty neat)
[07:44] <souji> I am new user in linux
[07:44] <Random832> Cydd: google has done a "rainbow-ish" thing for a while on searches for LGBT topics, it just used to be easier to miss
[07:44] <OY1R> thanks
[07:44] <ZykoticK9> !dvd | souji
[07:44] <tender> hi, i have laptop with vmware and Winxp guest Os installed and i have onther Pc with xp Os and Network Cross Cable , how can i connect them using the Corss Cable
[07:45] <Random832> (the blue line separating the menubar from the results at the time was rainbow striped)
[07:46] <westz> souji, just go download VLC from the USS
[07:46] <westz> souji, it'll play pretty much any format, including dvd's
[07:46] <Yusuke> i hate gay
[07:46] <pksadiq> !restricted | souji
[07:46] <ZykoticK9> westz, i doubt it can play DVD's OOTB
[07:46] <tender> any idea  !!!!  , i have laptop with vmware and Winxp guest Os installed and i have onther Pc with xp Os and Network Cross Cable , how can i connect them using the Corss Cable
[07:47] <westz> ZykoticK9, it did for me *shrug*
[07:47] <Cydd> guys
[07:47] <amanz> how to install c++ for dummies CD on ubuntu
[07:47] <Cydd> :O
[07:47] <tender> any idea !!!! , i have laptop with vmware and Winxp guest Os installed and i have onther Pc with xp Os and Network Cross Cable , how can i connect them using the Corss Cable
[07:48] <westz> tender, dont spam, and i you're going to, at least fix your spelling mistakes in between
[07:48] <Cydd> i bet english is not his first langauge
[07:48] <Cydd> so yeah take it easy on him
[07:49] <westz> well he spelled it right the first time
[07:49] <Cydd> well you're fat
[07:49] <IAmError> How do I open a root terminal? I need to open up visudo to add a user as a "sudoer".
[07:49] <appi_uppi> Hi, I'm running windows 2003 (on virtual box) in Ubuntu. I have forgotten the credential of it, I have done project and is stored in there. Is there a way to crack the password and get the data.
[07:49] <appi_uppi> ??
[07:49] <Starminn> How can I move text around with the keyboard? I highlight it with Shift+ArrowKeys, but how can I collectively move it with keyboard (if this is possible)?
[07:49] <tender> OK
[07:49] <ZykoticK9> IAmError, just add the user to the admin group, done.
[07:49] <IAmError> zykotick9: How do I do that?
[07:49] <wols> appi_uppi: google "ntpasswd"  you can reset the password with a linux live cd ISO with that
[07:49] <Starminn> appi_uppi: You are asking how to bypass something in Windows? Try ##windows
[07:50] <milamber> Starminn: ctrl + x to cut and ctrl + v to paste
[07:50] <thrillERboy> Hi, How do I setup conky on startup with custom config
[07:50] <milamber> milamber: for most programs, what program are you using, what exactly are  you trying to do?
[07:50] <Starminn> milamber: Yes, but I was just wondering if you can literally drag it
[07:50] <ZykoticK9> IAmError, i think "sudo usermod -aG admin YOURUSERNAME" would work...
[07:50] <appi_uppi> Starminn, wols thank you
[07:50] <milamber> Starminn: drag it with what?
[07:51] <Starminn> thrillERboy: Just modify whaever Conky script you want to modify and add that startup path to Startup Applications
[07:51] <pksadiq> Starminn: or I think alt+arrow keys
[07:51] <IAmError> zykotick9: says: zolgar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.n
[07:51] <Starminn> milamber: You know how you can highlight with the mouse, then click the area and drag-and-drop? (Nope, pksadiq no luck)
[07:51] <tender> I have VMware Workstation with WinXp guest Operating system and Another PC " Computer ", i Wont To Connect this Tow PCs Together Using Cross Cable Network   !!!!! Any Idea
[07:52] <pksadiq> Starminn: it only moves lines up an down
[07:52] <Abhijit> hi
[07:52] <milamber> Starminn: ctrl + shift + alt + numlock will allow you to use the numpad as a mouse
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> IAmError, you need an account that is already in the admin group (ie that can use sudo) before you can do anything
[07:52] <pksadiq> Abhijit: hi :)
[07:52] <Abhijit> anyone got a working ppa for postler? or anyother way to get postler in ubuntu?
[07:52] <Abhijit> pksadiq, good morning
[07:52] <Starminn> pksadiq: It scrolls, rather
[07:52] <pksadiq> Starminn: if you need advanced options use vim or emacs :)
[07:52] <Starminn> milamber: Hehe, I'm aware of that, but to navigate the mouse with the NumPad, then simulate a click, hold, renavigate, release... meh
[07:53] <Starminn> pksadiq: No, I'll pass on those, hehe. I'm prefectly happy with Geany.
[07:54] <PythonSnake> what is xorg?
[07:54] <PythonSnake> do I need to install it
[07:54] <ZykoticK9> !xorg | PythonSnake are you sure it isn't already installed?
[07:54] <tender> Cydd,westz , I have VMware Workstation with WinXp guest Operating system and Another PC " Computer ", i Wont To Connect this Tow PCs Together Using Cross Cable Network !!!!! Any Idea
[07:54] <PythonSnake> thx
[07:56] <PythonSnake> what is pacman program ?
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> PythonSnake, just to be clear - if you're looking at a GUI, and not a all black/white text console - then you have Xorg installed
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> PythonSnake, pacman is a package utility from another distro
[07:56] <temongantengbgt> any one have been trying icecast?
[07:57] <temongantengbgt> I try icecast in ubuntu.
[07:57] <temongantengbgt> but stil no buffer
[07:59] <wizonesolutions> I'm trying to include a file in .profile if it exists, but it isn't getting included when terminals open. If I type source .profile it works fine. Isn't .profile supposed to be automatically sourced when I open a shell?
[07:59] <wizonesolutions> Well, a GUI terminal...maybe that's different.
[08:00] <wizonesolutions> And if it is...then what file should I be looking at?
[08:00] <temongantengbgt> http://61.94.210.114:8000/
[08:02] <yugiohfan2011> I decided to install the Java(TM) Plugin, Java SE 6 (package name sun-java6-plugin), and later found on the Java website that it was version 1.6.0_24. It was suggested I upgrade to version 1.6.0_26, which I tried to do without success. This leads me to believe there's a version of sun-java6-plugin version 1.6.0_26 floating around in a Ubuntu repository somewhere. The question is, how do I get at it to download and install it?
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> !java > yugiohfan2011 not sure this will help...
[08:04] <ZykoticK9> yugiohfan2011, don't expect Ubuntu packages to be the !latest however
[08:05] <Guest86650> has any one been having problems with firefox
[08:05] <yugiohfan2011> I believe I understand what's going on here. Apparently Oracle has ceased supplying latest versions to Ubuntu.
[08:05] <Abhijit> !details | Guest86650
[08:07] <westz> how can i switch to a standard scrollbar in 11.04? changing the theme doesnt seem to change anything
[08:07] <Guest86650> on ubuntu 10.04. firefox dropdown menus aren't working. I mean all of them. right context, search, task bar.
[08:11] <PythonSnake> Should I activate the UXA module
[08:11] <PythonSnake> ?
[08:11] <PythonSnake> is it safe ?
[08:15] <ghost> hello
[08:16] <Abhijit> hi
[08:16] <Guest2574> umm i updated my laptop
[08:16] <Guest86650> any one else have the drop down problem in firefox
[08:17] <Guest2574> with all the current updates and when i try to install the missing pluging for youtube it say there are no pluging
[08:17] <Guest2574> so i cant watch videos
[08:17] <Starminn> Guest86650: What version Firefox?
[08:17] <MrDudle> Guest2574: which plug?
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> Guest86650, if you have another user on your system, does their firefox do the same thing?  you could try moving the .mozilla folder to a backup name and see if default settings corrects the issue.  Have you upgraded to a newer version of Firefox?
[08:18] <MrDudle> normally just restricted extras does the the trick for me
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> Guest2574, ubuntu-restricted-extras will install Flash (and a bunch of other things as well)
[08:19] <Guest2574> so how do i fix the problem
[08:19] <ChaosSaber> ZykoticK9, where do you find that at to install all that?
[08:20] <ZykoticK9> ChaosSaber, sorry?  to install you could use "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" Guest2574
[08:20] <Guest2574> ok
[08:21] <Guest86650> Starminn: it's 3.6 i think
[08:21] <Starminn> ChaosSaber: Software Center
[08:22] <Starminn> Guest86650: HAve you tried one of the newer versions? The current supported version is Firefox 5.
[08:22] <kdoonso> hi
[08:23] <kdoonso> on my network connection ipv6 is set to ignore is this ok
[08:23] <Guest2574> i still have the problem
[08:23] <kdoonso> it was set like this to default on windows it used to be 'active'
[08:23] <Guest2574> i can not get adobe
[08:24] <Guest86650> Starminn: I haven't tried a newer version
[08:24] <kdoonso> is ipv6 not used in ubunty
[08:24] <Guest2574> i can not get adobe
[08:24] <ZykoticK9> kdoonso, ipv6 is barely used on the internet right now...
[08:24] <kdoonso> can i enable it?
[08:25] <Starminn> Guest86650: If you do not wish to upgrade, try ZykoticK9's suggestion. Otherwise, just upgrade it (which would probably easier).
[08:25] <ThisIsMyNext> hey can somone help me troubleshoot my ssh server? it seems to work when i try to connect to it using my local ip adress but using my public ip seems to cause it to time out
[08:25] <ZykoticK9> kdoonso, doubtful - but it depends on your ISP more then anything (almost no one supports ipv6 right now)
[08:25] <kdoonso> also one other thing. when i try to install any av software such as avast, avg or bitdefender for linux the sofware console tells me its bad software that may harm computer
[08:26] <kdoonso> is this usual for any software not already on the software console list
[08:26] <ZykoticK9> !virus | kdoonso
[08:26] <kdoonso> like a default message
[08:26] <kdoonso> ok will stick with rkhunter then
[08:26] <kdoonso> and unhide
[08:26] <kdoonso> or chkrootkit
[08:26] <Dasc> how do you installing oss?  I followed the guide but seem to be missing stuff, don't have /dev/mixer
[08:27] <kdoonso> must recommend a good mag picked up from stanstead airport recently called simply linux
[08:27] <Guest86650> Starminn: I'm updating now. hopefully that will work.
[08:27] <kdoonso> its like a manual for beginners
[08:27] <ZykoticK9> Dasc, wow is it 1995?  OSS really, why?
[08:27] <kdoonso> very good
[08:28] <Starminn> Guest86650: Just bear in mind that there are a number of default aesthetic changes. You can still make it look like 3.6 pretty easily though. Menu Bar, Add-On Bar, and Tabs on Bottom should do it.
[08:28] <PythonSnake> hi
[08:28] <Dasc> ZykoticK9 - have a console only server and I want to setup the sound, don't we use OSS ?  or is there another way to setup the sound?
[08:29] <PythonSnake> can anyone join #intel-gfx ?
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> Dasc, OSS has for quite some time been superseded by ALSA
[08:29] <Guest86650> Starminn: ok
[08:30] <Dasc> ZykoticK9: I thought the website said OSS 4 is still alive and well, it says there to blacklist alsa
[08:30] <kdoonso> should i enable 802.1x security in connections tab it is not enable by defualt
[08:30] <alex88> any one from mexico
[08:30] <ZykoticK9> PythonSnake, yes there are 101 people in there.  perhaps you need to register your nick?
[08:31] <ZykoticK9> !register | PythonSnake
[08:31] <ChaosSaber> yeah cuz it let me in there
[08:31] <PythonSnake> ZykoticK9: I'm banned
[08:31] <PythonSnake> but never went to it
[08:31] <hamnegga> where is the sharkfest channel?
[08:31] <ZykoticK9> Dasc, I really wouldn't know - I haven't used OSS in close to 10 years I'm sure.  Best of luck.
[08:31] <PythonSnake> help
[08:32] <Dasc> ZykoticK9 - any link for setting up alsa on a console only ubuntu maverick?
[08:32] <kdoonso> it says md5 authentication and username password. what is 802.1x security is it needed
[08:33] <MadHaTTer666> you know there are literally thousands of decaffeinated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing!
[08:33] <PythonSnake> can anyone tell me why am I banned from #intel-gfx
[08:33] <PythonSnake> ?
[08:33] <PythonSnake> I never went there
[08:33] <Guest86650> Starminn: seems to be working fine. though none of my addons are working.
[08:33] <kdoonso> it also offers tns tunnelled tns or protected epa
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> Dasc, actually that's not ture - OpenSolaris used OSS, and that was only a couple years ago that I used that.  Sorry, I've never really setup sound in an all console environment before - wouldn't know where to begin.  Best of luck - but I do think the OSS option is probably the wrong path (but again, i could certainly me wrong)
[08:34] <Dasc> sigh~~ it's really best that I just setup X then sort out the sound isn't it? :X
[08:35] <Starminn> Guest86650: Firefox button->Add-ons, click the button next to the search and Check for Updates
[08:35] <kdoonso> in my experience of irc philosophy if your banned its simply bcause they dont like what your saying :) a bit ironic for philosophy but there you go...
[08:35] <MadHaTTer666> agreed
[08:35] <alaing> hi how can i cd into folder with a name of "2001-01-01 - 2002-06-06" from the command line. when i type dir i see there are \ where there are spaces
[08:35] <MadHaTTer666> or they just decided not to like to
[08:35] <MadHaTTer666> like u
[08:35] <monx> I moved my entire home directory onto a separate partition, but I went too deep (moved /home/user/* instead of /home/*). What would be the best way to move everything into /user/ on the new partition?
[08:36] <alaing> ultimately I would like to remove the folder and its contents
[08:36] <Guest86650> Starminn: says no updates are found
[08:37] <ChaosSaber> yeah but that will only work if they unban you
[08:37] <ZykoticK9> alaing, use double quotes around the name(s) ---- cd "2001-01-01 - example"
[08:37] <Starminn> Guest86650: You must be using some fairly obscure add-ons, then. :/ All 19 of mine work fine. Is it literally *all* of your add-ons that have stopped working?
[08:38] <Guest86650> Starminn: actually I just can't find them. thought they were in .mozilla when I backed it up.
[08:38] <Abhijit> is there any small applet or something whree i can insert local time and it will tell me UTC time?
[08:38] <monx> nevermind lol a simple mv did it
[08:40] <Starminn> Guest86650: I have no Add-Ons in my ~/.mozilla/* folder either but mine work. I don't know where it places them in the file system.
[08:40] <Dasc> anyone know how to hide the os type information from scanners?
[08:40] <Dasc> e.g.  Remote operating system : Linux Kernel 2.6 on Ubuntu 9.10 (karmic)  <------- hide this info
[08:41] <hypercity> when i try X -configure i get this number of screens does not match number of detected devices
[08:42] <alaing> ZykoticK9: thank you
[08:42] <ZykoticK9> alaing, glad to help
[08:43] <alaing> i'm using to dos but enjoying the command line
[08:43] <alaing> using=used
[08:43] <MadHaTTer666> get
[08:43] <sorush20> hi
[08:43] <sorush20> I can not install dhcp-server, its a transitional package.. where is the real package?
[08:44] <hypercity> can someone help me with the corect cmd line for a xorg.conf file generation?
[08:44] <wols> !errors > sorush20
[08:44] <wols> hypercity: why do you need a xorg.conf?
[08:45] <sorush20> wols: there are no errors, when I install the package it doesn't have the relevant file with it, can you look it up too.. dhcp-server
[08:45] <wols> sorush20: what is the output?
[08:45] <hypercity> wols: becouse i'm tring to revive a pc with a old radeon 9200 card , and the kms module is buggy for this configuration, i have to boot with nomodeset
[08:45] <alaing> i know rm is used to remove file/folders but how do i remove all files without specify the file now
[08:45] <hoss> How do I bridge my wireless nic with my ethernet?
[08:46] <sorush20> wols: what output, there is no output? I'm sharing the internet from my computer on eth0
[08:46] <MadHaTTer666> so?
[08:46] <wols> sorush20: apt-cache show <package>   see the "depends:" line
[08:46] <ZykoticK9> alaing, <CAREFUL> "rm *" would remove all files, except subdirectories
[08:47] <sorush20> wols: all the dependencies have been met and I don't need to type that in, as I can look at the dependencies in synaptic
[08:47] <hoss> Can someone please help me bridge my two nics?  Wireless and ethernet.
[08:47] <alaing> ZykoticK9: oh very simpliar to dos delete *.*.
[08:48] <ZykoticK9> alaing, exactly, but many gnu/linux files don't have extentions and *.* would NOT delete those
[08:48] <ChaosSaber> ZykoticK9, there was ban on the web chat client that PythonSnake was useing
[08:48] <ZykoticK9> ChaosSaber, that would make sense i guess
[08:48] <alaing> ZykoticK9: could you recommend a good line resource for learning the command line
[08:49] <hoss> should I google how to bridge interfaces?
[08:49] <wols> sorush20: have a nice day
[08:49] <ChaosSaber> I ask em why he got banned for
[08:49] <alaing> ZykoticK9: line=online
[08:49] <ZykoticK9> alaing, sorry I don't know of one - but I'm sure many exist... good luck
[08:49] <alaing> ZykoticK9: thank you once again.
[08:49] <wols> !terminal
[08:50] <sorush20> wols: you too, but can you help?
[08:51] <hoss> worthless... absolutely worthless..
[08:51] <Ubunub> I am trying to install RealPlayer on 11.04 64bit machine, dpkg complaints dependency problem with Lsb, but i already install that, also tried --ignore-depends still not working any tips?
[08:51] <wols> sorush20: you apparently know better what to do when I suggest something, then you do it. good luck
[08:52] <anli_> I am getting ghost pixels sometimes when I have run flash
[08:52] <anli_> So when I start a new application that has a white background, I see the flash pixels
[08:52] <anli_> anyone else that have experienced that?
[08:53] <soreau> anli_: Probably a graphics driver quirk
[08:53] <anli_> Is seems to affect everything thats white
[08:53] <anli_> ok
[08:53] <anli_> There is a white buffer in the gpu that is sometimes not white?
[08:55] <LazerBeam> Good evening everyone
[08:58] <DirtyDawg> it's 08:58am man ...
[09:02] <vandemar> .local is more standard than .lan for an mdns tld, right?
[09:03] <MadHaTTer666> isnt .local the standard for a loopback?
[09:04] <pvh_sa> vandemar, MDNS internet draft states that MDNS names have the form "single-dns-label.local"
[09:04] <pvh_sa> vandemar, http://files.multicastdns.org/draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns.txt
[09:04] <vandemar> aha excellent thanks
[09:11] <saburo> Hi. Someone have tried to connect his laptop to an hdmi television using Natty?
[09:11] <dr_willis> saburo,  should work.
[09:11] <linuxuz3r> hey guys
[09:11] <dr_willis> hdmi tv - same as a hdmi monitor basically.
[09:11] <saburo> is not so.
[09:12] <dr_willis> saburo,  worked identically for me whenever i try...
[09:12] <dr_willis> if you care to state your actual problem...
[09:12] <soreau> saburo: What happens when you try?
[09:13] <saburo> I have tried using previous kernel of linux endig with .35 and all go well but not with last release of kernel
[09:13] <soreau> saburo: What graphics card is it?
[09:13] <saburo> all screen is black
[09:13] <lins> ,list
[09:13] <saburo> Intel hd graphics
[09:14] <soreau> saburo: When you plug it in, does 'xrandr' show the device as connected?
[09:14] <dr_willis> its often handy to ssh into the box from a differnt pc. so you can check dmesg logs and use xrandr commands and restart X server remotely - if needed
[09:14] <saburo> it is not a connection problem since it work with previous release
[09:14] <soreau> saburo: Right but that doesn't answer the question
[09:14] <lins> #ubuntu-cn
[09:15] <saburo> I see the tv as second monitor in ubuntu monitor configuration
[09:15] <dr_willis> i have also seen with some laptops where differnt kernel versions can affect the fn-Special keys to toggle external monitors on/off. but that dosent sound like the case here.
[09:16] <soreau> saburo: So it shows as connected and enabled but it's black?
[09:16] <saburo> yes
[09:16] <dr_willis> is it set to clone, or extended desktop?
[09:16] <saburo> ...
[09:16] <saburo> wait
[09:16]  * dr_willis waits.....
[09:16] <soreau> saburo: Can you pastebin the output of 'xrandr -q' to paste.ubuntu.com?
[09:17] <saburo> I want to explain the problem better
[09:17] <soreau> Great, we're all for that
[09:19] <saburo> When I start ubuntu, i see both monitor and tv working together. But when I login to system, all scree are black because i have configured the tv as main monitor and disabled the laptop monitor
[09:19] <saburo> the configuration work when i start ubuntu with previous version of linux kernel as stated before
[09:19] <soreau> saburo: So the kernel driver is working but there's a problem with the X driver
[09:20] <dr_willis> so it works on the GDM login screen.. but not once the user logs in?
[09:20] <soreau> saburo: Does it work if you don't disable the laptop screen?
[09:20] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried reinstalling, and even purged it yet the error persists. The error Banshee gives is: http://pastie.org/2122608 while an attempt to run from terminal was: http://pastie.org/2122611 Any assistance is appreciated. :) (Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit)
[09:21] <saburo> I do not remember that...i think yes. The problem is when i disabled the laptop monitor
[09:22] <soreau> Starminn: Looks like a problem with sqlite
[09:22] <dr_willis> so the error is some how related to the users config.  but when you boot an older kernel on the same system. it does work?
[09:22] <soreau> Starminn: Perhaps you need sqlite3 installed? (or sqlite)
[09:22] <Starminn> soreau: In the repos?
[09:23] <soreau> saburo: It may be worth it to test if it works with the laptop screen enabled so you can file an informative bug report
[09:23] <soreau> Starminn: yes
[09:23] <saburo> dr_willis yes.. well. The configuration disable laptop monitor and enable only the tv
[09:23] <PythonSnake> Hi
[09:23] <dr_willis> also test with a newly made user. see if the 'defaults' do work.
[09:23] <PythonSnake> is kernel 3.0.0 good ?
[09:23] <PythonSnake> Should I upgrade ?
[09:24] <saburo> I remember now that when all monitor work, the second is the continuation of the first as the monitor is one attached the other
[09:24] <vandemar> PythonSnake: it's not out yet
[09:24] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  if you ahve to ask if you should use the alpha-version of the next release..... i dont think you should. :)
[09:24] <soreau> PythonSnake: If you don't have a reason to update your kernel, you probably shouldn't
[09:24] <PythonSnake> soreau: why ? :(
[09:25] <soreau> PythonSnake: Because it could cause unnecessary breakage
[09:25] <saburo> or the monitor show the same image but since the resolution is different, ubuntu use not the best resolution of my tv but that all monitor can support
[09:26] <dr_willis> if you dont have a reason... why bother.. :)
[09:26] <PythonSnake> soreau: breakage like ?
[09:26] <saburo> right.
[09:26] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  system not booting...
[09:27] <PythonSnake> my reason is to keep updated (more stable)
[09:27] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  drivers not working
[09:27] <dr_willis> !latest
[09:27] <soreau> PythonSnake: The kernel is the program in charge of the entire system at the hardware level. Using an unstable kernel could cause any number of problems
[09:27] <PythonSnake> oh
[09:27] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  updateing to a testing version of the kenel is the opposite of more stable
[09:28] <saburo> I want only the tv connected when I use it
[09:28] <Starminn> soreau: No luck.
[09:28] <PythonSnake> dr_willis what about 2.6.39 ?
[09:28] <dr_willis> saburo,  so basically when the interenal moniotor turns off.. so does the external..
[09:28] <soreau> Starminn: Well that was my only idea, sorry
[09:28] <saburo> dr_willis: yes
[09:28] <soreau> PythonSnake: Why are you considering upgrading your kernel?
[09:28] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  I just use whats in the repos.. ive rarely needed to  force upgrades or do anything weird with the kernels
[09:29] <Starminn> soreau: Hehe, that's alright. It was a good guess!
[09:29] <PythonSnake> okok
[09:29] <smmsadrnezh> I have ubuntu 10.04 on my Virtualbox and my OS is the same. I can't change the screen size of my virtual ubuntu!
[09:29] <PythonSnake> no kernel upgrade
[09:29] <PythonSnake> :)
[09:29] <PythonSnake> thx
[09:29] <smmsadrnezh>  I went to System >> Preferences >> Monitors
[09:29] <FloodBot1> PythonSnake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <dr_willis> saburo,  you might want to search/post a question on the askubuntu.com site and the forums. - it could be some bug with that exact chipset.
[09:29] <PythonSnake> ...
[09:29] <vk|lavi> Hi all!
[09:29] <gry> hello
[09:29] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  the normal update/upgrade process will upgrade the kernel as needed.
[09:29] <smmsadrnezh> but the only option for resulotion is 800*600
[09:29] <jragon_> Hi!
[09:30] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  what version of vbox?
[09:30] <smmsadrnezh> resolution*
[09:30] <vk|lavi> I want to create Live-CD for PC-reanimation
[09:30] <dr_willis> vk|lavi,  theres 100's of live cds out there...
[09:30] <dr_willis> if not 1000's :)
[09:30] <vk|lavi> so, i have to implement an antivirus scanner on it (for Windows)
[09:30] <Starminn> Backslashes aren't working in terminal for me.
[09:30] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: Virtualbox 4
[09:30] <dr_willis> vk|lavi,  thats been done also...
[09:30] <vk|lavi> dr_willis, I need my pwn with my set of utils :)
[09:30] <Starminn> Err... Whichever *slash* it is that looks like this: \
[09:30] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  you might need to install the vbox guest addations.. ie not messed with vb4 lately
[09:30] <jragon_> For some reason I can't get wine working. I can't open .exe files. It comes up with file.exe is not marked as exevuteable...?
[09:31] <Mysterytrain> what's the terminal command to start openssh server
[09:31] <saburo> ok...thanks
[09:31] <dr_willis> vk|lavi,  the askubuntu.com site had a thread on making your own live cds.
[09:31] <Starminn> jragon_: Right-click on the file, properties, permissions, mark as executable
[09:31] <chaddy> Mysterytrain: sudo start ssh
[09:31] <Mysterytrain> ty
[09:31] <soreau> jragon_: Perhaps you need to make it executable with chmod +x /path/to/file.exe
[09:31] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: but I think it does not work with v4?
[09:31] <vk|lavi> So can you propose me an antivirus scanner for windows, running under Linux?
[09:31] <dr_willis> jragon_,  do it from a terminal as an alternative..   'wine /path/to/whatever/file,exe'
[09:31] <gry> jragon_: right click, permissions tab in propertiesm mark as executable, retry
[09:31] <hamnegga> Anyone here got any vulnerable ip's?
[09:32] <hamnegga> share em.
[09:32] <dr_willis> vk|lavi,  theres like 3... clamav, and a few other companies that have linux versions now.. some even have their own live-cds
[09:32] <dr_willis> !av
[09:32] <gry> hamnegga: what are you trying to do ?
[09:32] <soreau> hamnegga: Please stay on topic
[09:32] <jragon_> Ok, thanks!
[09:32] <vk|lavi> dr_willis, does clamAv scan for Windows viruses?
[09:32] <gry> vk|lavi: Yes.
[09:32] <dr_willis> vk|lavi,  they ALL scan for windows vuiruses
[09:32] <dr_willis> sort of a limited use if they dident. :)
[09:33] <vk|lavi> well, thank you for your advises :)
[09:33] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: What should I do? there is no way with this version?
[09:33] <PythonSnake> why does my / or /home needs to be fixed every boot ?
[09:33] <saburo> Another problem: the touchpad too much click-sensitive
[09:33] <gry> saburo: Same here. Happens with any OS, though.
[09:33] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  i havent used vbox4 yet. so  im not sure what may be the issue. Other then installing the proper guest addations in the guest os..  not sure what else to try.
[09:33] <wols> PythonSnake: are you accessing it from windows with fs-driver or such?
[09:33] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  perhaps youa renot shutting down properly
[09:33] <Starminn> Ubuntu 10.10, this slash \ the one for escaping things, isn't working for me in Terminal. Instead it turns into a why with to marks along the vertical axis.
[09:34] <Starminn> s/why/"Y"
[09:34] <fizy[droid]> hey did anyone else with lucid just experience a crash? I was sitting ion my bed, when I heard my hdd spin down.  i tried sshing into it to from my droid see if it crashed, since I'm too lazy to go check it
[09:34] <dr_willis> fizy[droid],  that would be ratehr impressive if a bug crashed every lucid machine at the same time.
[09:34] <wols> smmsadrnezh: you need the guest additions for v4 of course. and you get them the same place you got v4 in the first place
[09:34] <Dasc> right anyone good with apache2 setups
[09:35] <wols> you also might want the v4 host kernel module
[09:35] <dgf> hi, i just bough a ext hard disk and formatted with exfat but i cant open in ubuntu
[09:35] <dgf> anyone could help, much appreciated
[09:35] <fizy[droid]> I just want to make sure its the OS s fault like an auto update. and not my machine on fire
[09:35] <PythonSnake> wols: no
[09:35] <dr_willis> dgf,  why did you use exfat ?
[09:35] <Dasc> am trying to hide webserver info and it's not working >_X  I've put in ServerToken Prod and its still showing the same
[09:35] <dgf> is there any quick fix to format to FAT
[09:35] <wols> !exfat
[09:35] <PythonSnake> dr_willis: I do
[09:35] <dr_willis> mkfs.vfat  /dev/sdXX
[09:35] <wols> dgf: just reformat it with fat. data on the disk is lost tho
[09:35] <dgf> dr_willis: windows only have NTFS and exFat
[09:36] <dgf> dr_willis: i mean the shop i bought at have windows pc and he formatted for me
[09:36] <dgf> there are only NTFS and exFAT options
[09:36] <dr_willis> err.... windows works with vfat just fine.. im not even sure what 'exfat' is and how its related.. I thought it was the fat used by the xbox's
[09:36] <dgf> i dont know. he showed me in the Windows Patrition thing and there are only 2 formats
[09:36] <dr_willis> I dont recall ever seeing 'exfat' as an option when formating in windows.
[09:36] <dr_willis> why not just use ntfs?
[09:36] <dgf> no idea
[09:36] <wols> dr_willis: embedded fat version, good for msft to extract royalties and to have a minor improvement voer fat32
[09:36] <fizy[droid]> and I don't want to reboot it, since BIOS makes really loud beeps, and its 430 my time
[09:37] <dgf> can ubuntu read ntfs?
[09:37] <wols> dr_willis: windows 7
[09:37] <xophe> ubuntu reads ntfs yes
[09:37] <soreau> dgf: yes
[09:37] <dgf> ohhh.
[09:37] <dr_willis> I dont see much need to mess with fat at all these days
[09:37] <linuxuz3r> hey guys
[09:37] <linuxuz3r> im on ubuntu
[09:37] <linuxuz3r> lol
[09:37] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[09:37] <dgf> i always have thought ntfs is only for windows
[09:37] <linuxuz3r> its nice to see a new interface
[09:37] <dr_willis> dgf,  years ago.... that was true...
[09:38] <dgf> ohh. so how can i format ntfs in ubuntu
[09:38] <dr_willis> mkfs.ntfs
[09:38] <dgf> is it a utility?
[09:38] <dr_willis> or use gparted and install the proper ntfs gools first
[09:38] <soreau> dgf: ntfs is just the NT File System. Any OS with a driver supporting this file system type can use it
[09:38] <dr_willis> dgf,  use gparted.
[09:38] <ashickur-noor> hi
[09:38] <ashickur-noor> have any body install firefox 5 in Lucid
[09:38] <dgf> ohh
[09:38] <ashickur-noor> if you do please give me the ppa
[09:38] <dgf> okie dr_willis , ill try it now
[09:38] <linuxuz3r> ashickur-noor its in beta right
[09:38] <dr_willis> ashickur-noor,  i think i saw a guide on it at the webupd8 web site.
[09:39] <dr_willis> or was it the omgubuntu site.
[09:39] <Abc> hi..I installed ubuntu in my new hp notebook and istalled the video driver from ADDITIONAL DRIVERS. After installation it asked for a restart and after I restarted the lappy started in text mode.Plz help me.
[09:39] <ashickur-noor> I need the stable version
[09:39] <dr_willis> Abc,  and your video chipset is?
[09:39] <ashickur-noor> Have any body tried it?
[09:39] <fizy[droid]> abo type wisp service gdm start
[09:40] <Abc> dr_willis : _I dont know exactly about it but its AMD RADEON 1.0 GB dedicated
[09:40] <fizy[droid]> abo what I meant to say is sudo, not wisp. stupid auto cottect
[09:40] <chaddy> wisp quite a creative typo for "sudo"?
[09:40] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/firefox-5-lands-in-firefox-stable-ppa.html
[09:41] <fizy[droid]> chaddy Stfu
[09:41] <dgf> dr_willis: i m on my gparted and try to creatre a new volume, however, the filesystem option -> NTFS is greyed out
[09:41] <chaddy> fizy[droid]: get a grip of yourself
[09:41] <bazhang> fizy[droid], stop that now
[09:41] <dr_willis> dgf,  you need the proper ntfs config tools installed befor you start gparted
[09:41] <linuxuz3r> can you uninstall ppa properly?
[09:41] <eFfeM> hi, my 11.04 does not start X any more, when I log in on a console I can start it by running startx manually, already tried recreating the initramfs, but that did not help, anyone an idea ?
[09:41] <dgf> dr_willis: how to do that
[09:41] <bazhang> linuxuz3r, with ppa-purge
[09:41] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[09:42] <fizy[droid]> chaddy sorry. I'm on a touchscreen and long msgs are obnoxious
[09:42] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | linuxuz3r
[09:42] <fizy[droid]> bazhang ^^
[09:42] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks
[09:42] <dgf> dr_willis: so, once i install ntfsprogs, whats next
[09:42] <linuxuz3r> im not in natty though
[09:42] <dr_willis> dgf,  then you start gparted
[09:42] <dgf> ohh
[09:42] <linuxuz3r> im in 10.04
[09:42] <bazhang> linuxuz3r, what version
[09:43] <linuxuz3r> lucid
[09:43] <Starminn> Backslash (\) will not work in Terminal. It is instead replaced with some type of "Y". Assist?
[09:44] <dr_willis> Starminn,  does it work in the console?  what language are you using?
[09:44] <Starminn> dr_willis: Which console? I'm just using Bash.
[09:44] <linuxuz3r> Starminn try \\
[09:44] <zphinx> Been trying to install ubuntu over both pxe and usb and dvd lately on my compaq, and i keep having the installation hang on me every time after i've chosen a keyboard layout, anyone who might know the reason for this?
[09:44] <Starminn> linuxuz3r: Umm... No effect.
[09:45] <chaddy> zphinx: maybe try the alternate install disc
[09:45] <fizy[droid]> well I'm out before auto correct creates more mayhem In here. peace.
[09:45] <gaymish> Starminn: fresh install or just started to happen randomly?
[09:45] <Starminn> gaymish: Just happen randomly.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> how can i run firefox 3 on natty to access a crappy governement website?
[09:45] <dr_willis> Starminn,  the consoles are 'alt-ctrl-f1 throguh f6'   bash is a shell you run.
[09:45] <zphinx> chaddy: ill give it a shot
[09:46] <Starminn> It still works rather, but it appears oddly.
[09:46] <Starminn> dr_willis: Nah, just a Terminal window. Single instance of gnome-terminal
[09:46] <PythonSnake> everytime I start ubuntu it says errors have been found in /home press f to fix s to skip ...
[09:46] <PythonSnake> anyone know how to fix that
[09:46] <PythonSnake> ?
[09:46] <sammmy> how do I open a file in gedit as admin?
[09:46] <chaddy> zphinx: it's a bit less user friendly but it's more robust, hardware wise
[09:46] <dr_willis> Starminn,  if it works. but looks weird.. i wonder if its a font issue
[09:46] <dr_willis> sammmy,  'gksudo gedit /path/to/file.txt'
[09:46] <Starminn> dr_willis: I'll try a different font
[09:47] <sammmy> dr_willis, why gksudo and not just sudo?
[09:47] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,   You could boot a live cd and fsck the filesystem. and be sure you  shutdown properly.
[09:47] <dr_willis> !gksudo
[09:47] <Starminn> dr_willis: Yep, that was it. Alright, thanks, and sorry for the silly overlook, haha
[09:47] <PythonSnake> how to fsck ?
[09:47] <sammmy> And is there a way to run a command in the directory that's open in a active nautilus window?
[09:48] <dr_willis> !fsck
[09:48] <PythonSnake> ok
[09:48] <PythonSnake> thx
[09:48] <dr_willis> sammmy,  run from a terminal,  getting it to use the dir from some differnt natuilus window?
[09:48] <dr_willis> sammmy,  or what do you mean exactly?
[09:49] <Abc> dr_willis : Its NVIDIA VGA
[09:49] <Starminn> dr_willis: Out of curiosity, what font do you use in gnome-terminal?
[09:50] <sammmy> dr_willis, well, if I have a directory open in nautilus, is there a way to run a command on that directory without needing to open terminal and then cd-ing to the directory I already have open in nautilus?
[09:50] <dr_willis> Starminn,  using the default - i think its ubuntu on 11.04  let me look.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i downgrade firefox 5 to 3 on natty?
[09:51] <dr_willis> sammmy,  you can drag/drop a directory icon to a terminal  window (or a file) and i think it fills in the path.
[09:51] <dr_willis> cd 'drag-and-drop'
[09:51] <markyxl> hi, does somebody have and idea why some scripts from /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks won't run on update-initramfs? i checked verbose log and it acts like they're not even there... they are all executable with correct access rights. or is there a list of scripts to run I have to edit?
[09:52] <Starminn> sammmy: Or just "gksudo nautilus" and do whatever you need.
[09:52] <sammmy> dr_willis, still have to open a terminal and then cd then drag and drop. Would be cool if nautilus had a run command feature, maybe in the future it will.
[09:52] <sammmy> Why gksudo though? I though it was just sudo?
[09:52] <sammmy> thought*
[09:52] <dr_willis> sammmy,  ive seen nauilus variants with terminals embeded in them on the f8 key.
[09:52] <dr_willis> sammmy,  to set up proper variables so gui apps run properly
[09:53] <dr_willis> running nautilus as root.. can get dangerous if you forget its running as root.
[09:53] <dr_willis> Starminn,  monospaced 10 seems to be my default font.
[09:53] <dgf> dr_willis: i have partitioned into threee drives
[09:54] <dgf> but it is weird, i only see 2 partitions
[09:54] <dgf> for your info, all of them are NTFS
[09:54] <dr_willis> did you mount all 3 of them?
[09:54] <dr_willis> 'see' them where exactly?
[09:54] <dgf> yeah
[09:55] <soreau> lol
[09:55] <dgf> i mount all 3 of them
[09:55] <dgf> on the removable media
[09:55] <sammmy> It seems like ubuntu is overriding GNOME's black cursor with ubuntu's white one. How can I prevent this?
[09:55] <soreau> dgf: Perhaps one of the partitions simply isn't mounted?
[09:55] <dgf> i even tried to delete and create again
[09:55] <dgf> yet it doesnt appear
[09:56] <dr_willis> if you deleted a partion while it was mounted.. tye shstem can be confused.. i suggest a reboot..
[09:56] <soreau> dgf: 'removable media' may or may not always be reliable
[09:56] <dgf> i try to remove now and plug it in again
[09:56] <soreau> I'd use fdisk -l or similar
[09:57] <soreau> or that's not right..
[09:57] <dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l'
[09:57] <soreau> oh yea :)
[09:57] <dr_willis> dgf,  i hope you are unmounting eveyrthing BEFOR you unplug the device.
[09:57] <Starminn> dr_willis: I've got one for you that's stumped me for awhile. This happened one day and no matter what font I try, it does not alleviate the problem. http://imagebin.org/160008 The letters start to blend together. For example, if you look where my pointer is, well, pointing (at your name, in fact) the W and i blend together. I'm also using (and have been using) Monospace at size 10.
[09:57] <dgf>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1               1       31871   256003776    7  HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdb2           31872       63742   256003807+   7  HPFS/NTFS /dev/sdb3           63743      121597   464720287+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:58] <soreau> dgf: See? You have /dev/sdb1, 2 and 3
[09:58] <dr_willis> dgf,  why did you make 3 partitions anyway?
[09:58] <dgf> yeah
[09:58] <dgf> i did
[09:58] <soreau> drWho cares :)
[09:58] <soreau> dr_willis: *
[09:58] <dgf> one 250GB, one 250GB
[09:58] <dgf> and third one is the remaining
[09:58] <dr_willis> Starminn,  ive had so many gfx issues with unity.. im rolling my own desktop with openbox and docky right now. :)
[09:59] <soreau> dr_willis: Bah, just use compiz master or gnome classic
[09:59] <dr_willis> dgf,  i suggest a reboot. and sdee if you can access them from a sane state.
[09:59] <dgf> ohh
[09:59] <dgf> okie
[09:59] <dr_willis> soreau,  you can use compositing in fluxbox or openbox via the xcompmgr tool :)
[09:59] <soreau> dgf: I'd suggest you review the output of 'mount'
[09:59] <vandemar> why does ubuntu's dhclient.conf have dhcp-client-identifier not set by default?
[09:59] <dr_willis> gnome-classic had the same gfx issues as unity
[09:59] <Starminn> dr_willis: This is on 10.10..
[09:59] <soreau> dr_willis: Oh come the hell on. Those wimps aren't even comparable to the mastery that is compiz
[10:00] <soreau> get real man ;)
[10:00] <dr_willis> You misspelt 'mastery' it should be 'doodie' :)
[10:00] <soreau> pffft
[10:01] <markyxl> why some scripts from /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks won't run on update-initramfs? i checked verbose log and it acts like they're not even there... they are all executable with correct access rights... is there a list of scripts to run I have to edit?
[10:01] <soreau> dr_willis: Can xcompmgr do wobbly windows, cube and blur?
[10:01] <dr_willis> actually ive seen/heard about a lot of issues with the compiz in 11.04 - seems a lot of pepole are going back to the older compiz.
[10:01] <PythonSnake> is ubuntu one safe ?
[10:01] <dr_willis> soreau,  it does enough so that the docks/docky/awn/whatever work fine. :) thats all i need.
[10:01] <soreau> Yes, compiz 0.8.x is still the stable version
[10:01] <soreau> dr_willis: bah
[10:01] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  safe in what way?
[10:01] <soreau> that's not compositing
[10:01] <soreau> that's just using a dock
[10:02] <Starminn> dr_willis: This is on 10.10, not 11.04. Does the same still apply?
[10:02] <PythonSnake> reliable..
[10:02] <dr_willis> Starminn,  not sure.
[10:02] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  ive never lost anything there yet..
[10:02] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  use dropbox and ubuntuone - and keep backups i guess..
[10:02] <soreau> I don't trust it so I don't use it
[10:03] <dr_willis> I keep wallpaper and other notes there. I like u1's   use of  the notes
[10:03] <PythonSnake> soreau: why o.o ?
[10:03] <dr_willis> it would be neat to some how sync my desktop settings to U1,. so all my box's are the same.
[10:03] <dr_willis> proberly doable.. but i havent bothered to try
[10:04] <soreau> PythonSnake: General trust issues
[10:04] <razz1> I am getting a new 4kb sector HDD for my laptop, I would like to image my existing partitions on 512bytes  sector HDD and move them to the new 4kb sector HDD, what's the best way to do this.
[10:04] <soreau> I don't trust even myself sometimes
[10:04] <PythonSnake> ..
[10:05] <bt> hi. i accidently deleted my lubuntu-rc.xml. where can i find a copy?
[10:06] <soreau> bt: On the live cd?
[10:07] <bt> soreau: i did a install from the desktop cd.
[10:08] <soreau> bt: Are you sure that's the exact name of the file?
[10:08] <bt> soreau: yes, it's /home/bt/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[10:08] <soreau> bt: What package provides it?
[10:09] <bt> soreau: don't know :(
[10:09] <dr_willis> !find  lubuntu-rc.xml
[10:09] <soreau> bt: Doesn't seem to be in the ubuntu file database
[10:09] <soreau> dr_willis: win :)
[10:10] <dr_willis> its provberly generated when lxde starts the first time
[10:10] <tang_> 这里可以说中文吗？
[10:10] <soreau> yea
[10:10] <soreau> bt: Try restarting openbox?
[10:10] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~/.config/openbox$ pastebinit  lubuntu-rc.xml
[10:10] <dr_willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:10] <dr_willis> theres mine
[10:10] <bt> soreau: i think it's from the lubuntu desktop, restart brings an error
[10:11] <soreau> bt: Well you have dr_willis' now ;)
[10:11] <dr_willis> pastebinit cmd failed... odd...
[10:11] <soreau> dr_willis: lol
[10:11] <dr_willis> did they change the site again?
[10:11] <tang_> dr_willis
[10:12] <soreau> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install curl && cat ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml /.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[10:12] <soreau> crap
[10:12] <Starminn> Is it possible to open a .dat file in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <tang_> dr_willis,hao are you ?
[10:12] <soreau> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install curl && cat ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:13] <tang_> dr_willis？？？？？？？？？
[10:14] <bt> dr_willis: how can i download from bastebin? thanks.
[10:14] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~/.config/openbox$ pastebinit  -b "http://fpaste.org" lubuntu-rc.xml
[10:14] <dr_willis> http://fpaste.org/wJYV/
[10:14] <tang_> who help me?
[10:14] <dr_willis> bt,  pastebin seems down.. try that 2nd url
[10:15] <dr_willis> hahha -- broke the 512k limit.. seems the file is too big
[10:15] <tang_> dr_willis???
[10:15] <bt> dr_willis: yep get the same error
[10:16] <dr_willis> 3rd try
[10:16] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~/.config/openbox$ cat ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:16] <dr_willis>  http://sprunge.us/FcZI
[10:16] <PythonSnake> how to uninstall irssi ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  package manager tools.. same as you installed it.
[10:16] <tang_> dr_willis??why
[10:16] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove irssi
[10:16] <bt> dr_willis: got it. THANKS!
[10:16] <dr_willis> tang_,  do you have an actual ubuntu support question? or do you just like my nick ? :)
[10:17] <Rexodus> Ik think the last one...
[10:18] <tang_> dr_willis,I,linux mint11
[10:18] <dr_willis> tang_,  mint has its own support channels.
[10:18] <dr_willis> !mint | tang_
[10:18] <dr_willis> hay. srunge.us can work with pastebinit also! :)
[10:19] <dr_willis>  pastebinit  -b "http://sprunge.us" lubuntu-rc.xml      <--- handy.
[10:19] <tang_> network interface
[10:21] <Starminn> Is it possible to open a .dat file in Ubuntu?
[10:21] <dr_willis> what exactly is a 'dat' file supposed to contain?
[10:21] <chalcedony> hi dr_willis *hugs*
[10:21] <dr_willis> moo chalcedony !
[10:21] <chalcedony> :)
[10:21] <tang_> tdr_willis thank you
[10:22] <Starminn> Ehh.... Data I suppose... :/ I believe it has plain text or HTML in it, but I cannot seem ot open it.
[10:22] <westz> Starminn, depends on what program reads it. some .dat files are sound files, some are text, some are voodoo
[10:22] <dr_willis> Starminn,  gedit foo.dat    and see.
[10:22] <dr_willis> file foo.dat     see what ie says
[10:22] <pRoV7x>  hello folks
[10:23] <chalcedony> what do i need to fix, the last update of ubuntu seems to have affected my mouse - it loses stuff i highlight if i touch anything before i paste it? (regular mouse, not custom)
[10:24] <pRoV7x>  now i downloaded the Gparted live CD, which is about 127 Mb, how can i boot with it from a USB flash memory?
[10:24] <dr_willis> pRoV7x,  the tools at the pendrivelinux web site can put it on a usb flash for you.
[10:25] <dr_willis> they have tools that can put gparted and other live cds on the same pendrive if you wanted.
[10:25] <Starminn> dr_willis: I've been trying things like that, and this is what I get: http://imagebin.org/160011 whereas if I open it with other programs (Geany, LibreOffice, and even Notepad++ (a Windows program) in WINE since it's off my Windows partition) I get symbols, etc.
[10:25] <pRoV7x>  where is that, is that a website?
[10:25] <dr_willis> Starminn,  where did this mystical file come from anyway? what was supposed to be in it?
[10:25] <dr_willis> pRoV7x,  type pendrivelinux in your browser
[10:25] <dr_willis> its a web site.. yes
[10:26] <pRoV7x>  < dr_willis > alright
[10:26] <Starminn> Chat logs from back when I used Yahoo! Messenger client. I wanted to grep them for something
[10:26] <dr_willis> they could be encoded/compressed/ or who knows what else...
[10:26] <Starminn> They may be only able to open in Yahoo!Messenger, perhaps?
[10:27] <dr_willis> You may need to do some reserch to see   if theres some other ways..
[10:27] <Starminn> Is it possible to explore other Windows partitions from a Windows VM?
[10:28] <ChaosSaber> Starminn, I believe those files are only attached to the Messenger
[10:28] <Optimus_> bom dia
[10:28] <dr_willis> vbox can mount 'real' windows partitions. but the manual mentions it can cause data loss...
[10:28] <ChaosSaber> Inside em are normaly just codes and crap
[10:28] <Starminn> ChaosSaber: Indeed. My same thoughts.
[10:28] <Starminn> dr_willis: Even if I'm only reading them -- not writing?
[10:28] <Starminn> And why did you put 'real' in quotes?
[10:29] <dr_willis> Starminn,  real as in real physical disks...
[10:29] <dr_willis> a virtual hd is 'real' :) but not physical.
[10:29] <dr_willis> you an even convert the 2
[10:30] <nnull> just like my virtual gf
[10:30] <ChaosSaber> nnull, I need one of those with a power button lol
[10:30] <Starminn> So can a VM read from an actual, physical, able-to-do-this: http://funcorner.eu/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/hard-drive-new-life.jpg partition?
[10:31] <nnull> ChaosSaber, look into latex
[10:31] <soreau> dr_willis: I like the curl method of pasting if nothing else, for the sheer fact that there are absolutely no ads or loading distractions, it's only what you posted
[10:31] <soreau> convenient for patches
[10:33] <uragan> привет
[10:33] <uragan> я говорю , привет
[10:34] <pRoV7x>  < dr_willis > buddy
[10:34] <soreau> ! ru
[10:34] <PythonSnake> hi
[10:34] <uragan> hi
[10:34] <pRoV7x>  whiach one should i get
[10:34] <uragan> sorry
[10:34]  * dr_willis is going to be in and out for a while. wife is sick.
[10:34] <soreau> uragan: no problem :)
[10:34] <PythonSnake> where can I find drivers for Elantech ETPS/2 Touchpad please ?
[10:34] <uragan> i shall use eng
[10:34] <pRoV7x>  < dr_willis > which one should i get
[10:34] <soreau> dr_willis: Tell her the community wishes her well! ;)
[10:34] <chalcedony> what do i need to fix, the last update of ubuntu seems to have affected my mouse, can i just apt-get remove <something> and apt-get install it again?  - it loses stuff i highlight if i touch anything before i paste it? (regular mouse, not custom)
[10:35] <chalcedony> indeed dr_willis :)
[10:35] <pRoV7x>  < dr_willis > i wanna put the Gparted in a USB flash memory and boot from it
[10:37] <pRoV7x>  < dr_willis > is it Multiboot installer
[10:37] <w00t1> anybody cah help
[10:38] <w00t1> http://pastebin.com/tk2nWYH3 what wrong
[10:38] <leo_> hi
[10:39] <chalcedony> hello leo_
[10:39] <Rexodus> w00t1: what is the problem?
[10:39] <plum> hey guys... can anyone help me with perl and locale errors?
[10:39] <leo_> hi
[10:40] <soreau> pRoV7x: Do you see the tutorials at the bottom?
[10:40] <chalcedony> my mouse problem (above) is in 10.04
[10:40] <leo_> i need a help
[10:40] <soreau> ! ru | w00t1
[10:40] <w00t1> if i use static ip in interfaces - i have no internet, if i use auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp - the same. if i comment eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp then it works
[10:40] <soreau> ! help | leo_
[10:41] <leo_> can i use genome 3 in ubuntu?
[10:41] <soreau> leo_: yes
[10:41] <leo_> how ?:)
[10:41] <soreau> ! gnome3 | leo_
[10:42] <pRoV7x>  < soreau > ok
[10:42] <uragan> i have a lot of diff quastions
[10:42] <uragan> i ll ask to you one by one
[10:42] <uragan> )))
[10:42] <leo_> ok
[10:42] <uragan> but not now
[10:42] <uragan> later
[10:43] <dr_willis> pRoV7x,  that sounds about right.. theres several ways to do it.. so any of the tools there can do it.
[10:44] <pRoV7x>  < soreau > mmm, ok
[10:45] <soreau> pRoV7x: When you address someone on irc, you should be able to use auto tab completion after typing the first four letters of the nick you're talking to
[10:45] <leo_> when i import files in media player from my partition it works wel at that time but after i restart my sytem they are lost
[10:45] <leo_> i mean i ve to import them again
[10:45] <Internetpc> Hi, When I insert a USB flash drive, the icon appears on the left side of the desktop.Can it be changed to right side ?
[10:45] <leo_> every time i restart my system
[10:46] <pRoV7x>  < soreau > i use mIRC
[10:47] <dr_willis> time to expand your IRC client knowledge. :)
[10:47] <dr_willis> Internetpc,  not really.. gnome just seems to perfer the left.
[10:47] <dr_willis> Internetpc,  you could just hide all icons. :)
[10:48] <Internetpc> dr_willis : How ?
[10:49] <dr_willis> theres some gnome settings to hide the mounted or unmounted volume icons. I think the unsupported (by us here) program Ubuntu-tweak has a gui/check box to do it. theres proberly other ways as well
[10:49] <dr_willis> icons on the desktop are getting rather.. well.. outdated and  slowly fadeing away
[10:51] <soreau> leo_: I don't know why that would happen. You can file a bug report on launchpad though
[10:51] <soreau> leo_: Or use the auto bug reporting tool
[10:51] <soreau> ! bug | leo_
[10:52] <dr_willis> leo_,  you havent accdenmtly ran the media player as root? its possible some of the config files in your home. are owned by root if thats the case.
[10:52] <dr_willis> leo_,  try making a new user, see if the issue affects them as well.
[10:53] <_martin_> hi all i got ubuntu 11.04 (upgrade from 10.10 running in vbox) but there seems to be no unionfs support. i tried to install the unionfs-fuse package but now i'm stuck. theres no additional fs in /proc/filesystems. how to use unionfs-fuse?
[10:53] <dr_willis> if it does - that points to a bug. if it works for the new user. that points to some issue with the problem users home/dirs/files/configs
[10:54] <leo_> thnx
[10:54] <MadHaTTer666> blah
[10:55] <PythonSnake> is wine good ?
[10:55] <leo_> when i try to trun.exe files using wine
[10:55] <leo_> i get a error msg showing "The file '/media/New Volume/Games/Flash games/Bubble_Trouble.EXE' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[10:56] <lafon> leo_: Do you trust the source?
[10:56] <leo_> yup
[10:56] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  wine works very well given the complex job it has to do.
[10:56] <PythonSnake> can wine run games ?
[10:56] <dr_willis> leo_,  use the terminal...    wine /path/to/whatever.exe   is the easy way to get around that
[10:56] <dr_willis> leo_,  or copy the file to your home dir. and make it 'executable'
[10:57] <dr_willis> !appdb | PythonSnake
[10:57] <leo_> how?
[10:57] <PythonSnake> !windows
[10:57] <dr_willis> wine  '/media/New Volume/Games/Flash games/Bubble_Trouble.EXE'
[10:57] <dr_willis> from a terminal.. should work
[10:57] <PythonSnake> Bubble_Trouble
[10:57] <PythonSnake> lol
[10:58] <dr_willis> wine wiorks with most of the popcap games ive tried.
[10:58] <dr_willis> some times copy protection can be an issue
[10:58] <lafon> leo_: right-click>properties>Permissions>execute
[10:58] <PythonSnake> do I need Wine app db ?
[10:59] <dr_willis> its a web site...
[10:59] <PythonSnake> oh
[10:59] <PythonSnake> ok thx again dr_willis
[11:00] <zphinx>   just managed to load up an ubuntu pxe install with the alternate cd on my laptop with tftpd, and now for some reason the laptop cant connect to any of the ubuntu mirrors
[11:01] <_martin_> anybody ever setup up unionfs in ubuntu??
[11:01] <zphinx> should i reenable dhcp on the home hub once the pxe install has gotten going?
[11:01] <dr_willis> zphinx,  or set up static up/dns perhaps.
[11:02] <zphinx> tftpd is providing dhcp atm, the home hub is still there but with dhcp turned off
[11:02] <Phylock> I have a problem with my webcams, i can only activate each of them once for each boot. Second time I try to start it I get a "select timeout". it doesn't matter(tried in vlc, opencv code and mplayer) in which program i start it, so i guess its a v4l2 problem. Any ideas how to continue?
[11:02] <dr_willis> could be the tftpd is not getting the right info from the hub then? ive never domne an inzstall this way
[11:02] <voicu> how can I give applications "fake" fullscreen resolutions? i.e. something not listed in system settings -> display
[11:03] <zphinx> dr_willis: its a major pain in the ass, i can tell you.
[11:03] <Gilgha> Hi
[11:03] <Phylock> voicu: meny applications hav a config file, try to hadcode it in there.
[11:03] <Gilgha> Is somebody know how to transfert data between Win7 and Ubuntu with a RJ45 wire?
[11:04] <dr_willis> Gilgha,  you mean a network cable?
[11:04] <Gilgha> yep dr_willis, an ethernet calbe
[11:04] <Gilgha> *cable
[11:04] <dr_willis> Gilgha,  you need either a crossover cable. or  1000gb network cards I think.
[11:05] <dr_willis> or whatever that term is.. im groggy. :)
[11:05] <Gilgha> I do have a crossover cable
[11:05] <dr_willis> then set up static ip's on both box's - see if they can ping each other.. then start copying.
[11:05] <dr_willis> winscp is handy for this
[11:05] <walt> what is it that allows for example thunar to mount drives without root? And not adding anything to /etc/fstab
[11:05] <lafon> hmm...I get this error when trying to start up a program thru wine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/632955/
[11:05] <Gilgha> winscp so that you copy with SFTP?
[11:05] <dr_willis> walt,  its using the gvfs service/feature i belive
[11:06] <dr_willis> winscp = ssh client for windows with a ftp like front end. yes.
[11:06] <wols> dr_willis: not thunar
[11:06] <ghsh> walt: mtab
[11:06] <dr_willis> not thunar? Hmm. i may be thining of pcmanfm then
[11:06] <Gilgha> ok that's not a bad idea. I first tought of using samba but winftp seems to be a better choice
[11:07] <dr_willis> I still like rox-filer  :) but its the old-skool kid these days
[11:07] <Gilgha> thanks dr_willis
[11:07] <dr_willis> samba is a pain. :) ssh/scp will take less time to get going
[11:07] <walt> ghsh: so, thunar adds an entry to /etc/mtab and then mounts it?
[11:07] <dr_willis> not sure how much faster/slower scp would be compared to samba.
[11:08] <wols> dr_willis: those both don't use gvfs. xfce brings its own autmounter
[11:08] <Gilgha> ok thanks I'm gonna try this right now
[11:08] <dr-lee> hi
[11:08] <ghsh> walt: kind of -- thuner user a prog that does that
[11:08] <wols> dr_willis: nautilus, sure. the others: no
[11:08] <ghsh> uses
[11:08] <dr_willis> wols,  i missread at --> http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
[11:09] <walt> ghsh: what does it use? Because editing /etc/mtab also requires root priviliges?
[11:09] <dr_willis> its a 'goal' in the next release it seems
[11:09] <walt> Just trying to wrap my head around what I would need to do to mount things as a user and not use thunar
[11:09] <Ampelbein> walt, ghsh: I guess you are looking for fuse.
[11:10] <ghsh> walt: edit /etc/group
[11:10] <dr_willis> but then it says the 'next geenration of pcmanfm is to be out in 2010' ... so im not sure if its doing it or not..
[11:10] <wols> dr_willis: isn't pcmanfm the filemanager for one of the "Light" desktops? dragging in gvfs and therefore gnome would be a stupid idea
[11:11] <PythonSnake> !appdb
[11:11] <dr_willis> wols,   they discuss thast on the web site.
[11:11] <dr_willis> I just noticed that my filemanager icon is launching nautilus, not pcmanfm. :)  so the point is moot for me anyway
[11:13] <dr_willis> pcmanfm does seem to be using the .gvfs directory here...  at least the network share i just accessed from it. appeared there.
[11:13] <sugoruyo> hi folks, i need to find a way to monitor the cpu usage (and possibly the memory usage) of specific processes generating a minimum, maximum and average
[11:16] <dr_willis> further research - indicates that pcmanfm does in fact use gvfs.   http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=1422&f=22
[11:16] <ghsh> sugoruyo: top
[11:16] <sugoruyo> ghsh:
[11:16] <ghsh> sugoruyo: yes
[11:16] <sugoruyo> ghsh: can top do that for me?
[11:16] <ghsh> sugoruyo: it can serve as a means yes
[11:17] <smit-tay> I can't seem to get Gnome to maintain my German qwertz keyboard layout.  It keep reverting to German qwerty on re-boot
[11:17] <sugoruyo> ghsh: but it can't do it on its own?
[11:17] <rufian> my laptop sucks with linux u.u
[11:17] <ghsh> sugoruyo: man top -- a simple script
[11:17] <smit-tay> Anz ideas ?
[11:17] <smit-tay> Any
[11:17] <ghsh> sugoruyo: it's a back end
[11:17] <Phylock> rufian: then choose something else, its a free world
[11:18] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu 10.04, and experimenting with the e17 libraries from packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu.  (I'm also asking this on #e, but it's quiet there now).  I get this error with the ecomorph module when trying to start ecomp:  No whitelisted driver found.
[11:18] <sugoruyo> ghsh: i know what top is but it doesn't provide me with min,max,avg
[11:18] <bilegt> #join archlinux
[11:18] <ghsh> sugoruyo:  lol hence the script
[11:18] <rufian> Phylock, you mean Windows? BSD?
[11:18] <sugoruyo> ghsh: i know how to run it in intervals rather than interactive, how to make it monitor what pids i want it to
[11:19] <sugoruyo> ghsh: i'm not familiar with scripting though...
[11:20] <ghsh> sugoruyo:  well that would be the only way i could do it
[11:20] <dilruk> im wondering which is better... sun or open jdk... anyone?
[11:20] <ghsh> sugoruyo:  i know no gui way sorry
[11:20] <apporc> under /etc/init why there isn't a apache2.conf ifle.
[11:21] <ghsh> dilruk: sun
[11:21] <apporc> How are you , my friends , with ubuntu 10.10 , under /etc/init why there isn't a apache2.conf file
[11:21] <sugoruyo> ghsh: what you're talking about is basically running top in intervals and getting the info from its output, putting it through a script keeping the min and max and summing it so we can have an average at the end
[11:21] <sugoruyo> right?
[11:21] <ghsh> dilruk: solaris all the way
[11:21] <wols> apporc: cause there shouldn't be any conf files in /etc/init.d/
[11:21] <dilruk> ghsh: why do you say so?
[11:21] <apporc> Is that apache2 is not controled by upstart?
[11:22] <ghsh> sugoruyo:  yes
[11:22] <sugoruyo> ghsh: i don't want no gui method, it's gonna be run over ssh on ubuntu server headless machines
[11:22] <ghsh> dilruk: runs better sun --- is java! they even had a java desktop
[11:23] <sugoruyo> ghsh: the part i'm unfamiliar with is the bash scripting, specifically which commands i could use (and how) to "parse" the output from top
[11:23] <ghsh> sugoruyo:  then there you go
[11:23] <apporc> wols: not /etc/init.d  ,  it is /etc/init .
[11:23] <dilruk> ghsh: im also using sun. just wondering if open jdk is any good
[11:23] <ghsh> sugoruyo: man bash sed bc touch mkdir etc
[11:24] <apporc> How are you , my friends , with ubuntu 10.10 , under /etc/init why there isn't a apache2.conf file;is that apache2 is not controled by upstart?
[11:24] <Melior> Is it possible to mount rar files and still have execute permission on the image file inside? Currently i only have read permission and some apps have trouble opening it
[11:25] <Ampelbein> apporc: apache2 has no upstart script at the moment, see bug 689454
[11:26] <apporc> Ampelbein: thanks.
[11:26] <apporc> ubottu: thank you .
[11:26] <apporc> ubottu: thanks , bot.
[11:27] <ghsh> Melior: you decompress a rar not mount it -- that is your start
[11:28] <dilruk> I just started using ubuntu from windows... Can someone recommend me a torrent client
[11:28] <Ampelbein> dilruk: transmission is pretty good and installed by default.
[11:29] <io> !info transmission | dilruk
[11:30] <Melior> ghsh: I was trying to aboid the disk load..
[11:30] <dilruk> Thanks guys, but transmission is too simple...compared to utorrent on windows
[11:30] <dilruk> what would u recommend for a utorrent fan?
[11:30] <voicu> ktorrent
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> qbittorrent
[11:30] <ghsh> Melior: why
[11:30] <Ampelbein> dilruk: azureus
[11:30] <dilruk> voicu: that runs on kde right?
[11:31] <voicu> dilruk: it's kde based but it can run on any desktop
[11:31] <dilruk> Which one is native gnome?
[11:31] <voicu> why does it have to be native gnome?
[11:31] <Melior> ghsh: Enough diskload already. And if i have to do this for a really large amount of files, then it's pain in the ass :)
[11:31] <dilruk> voicu: coz i dont wanna install the kde libs :)
[11:31] <Melior> Funny thing is that fuse only give readonly, why not just execute as well?
[11:32] <ghsh> Melior: agree -- then i would use tar
[11:32] <voicu> ok :-?
[11:32] <Melior> ghsh: Files are in rar already
[11:33] <dilruk> how is qbittorrent
[11:33] <dr_willis> dilruk,  it works.. most torrent clients work fairly well these days
[11:34] <ghsh> Melior: yes then use unrar
[11:34] <dr_willis> dilruk,  utorrent has a linux port. - web only interface.
[11:34] <dilruk> dr_willis: i prefer a desktop app
[11:35] <Melior> ghsh: Sure i know that's possible. But still prefer to not unrar.
[11:35] <ghsh> dilruk: vuze or qtorrent
[11:35] <dr_willis> dilruk,  dozens of clients out there.
[11:35] <dr_willis> dilruk,  pick one try it.. move on if you dont like it. transmission works well for most people these days
[11:35] <bannik> hey guys , I have a problem with my mouse, sometimes randomly the mouse goes wild and starts moving left and right all the time and clicking everything (sometimes goes top corner and multiply hits shutdown etc) and sometimes when it goes wild the monitor freezes I cant click anything until I click all the mouse buttons which sets it back to normal
[11:35] <ghsh> Melior: yes told you how
[11:36] <Aon> Hi all!
[11:36] <dilruk> How about Deluge? anybody tried it?
[11:36] <Aon> Where i can download Android Execution Environment?
[11:37] <ghsh> Melior: k just figured it out
[11:37] <dr_willis> !info deluge
[11:37] <dr_willis> 116k - wonder what libs it uses.
[11:37] <Melior> ghsh: Sorry i don't see what you mean? Files are in rar format. So cannot use tar..?
[11:37] <Abhijit> is there any software to take care of ajenda of meeting, notes, minutes etc?
[11:37] <dr_willis> tar does not do rar archives. -
[11:38] <Aon> Where i can download Android Execution Environment?
[11:38] <ghsh> Melior: you are lot in thought
[11:38] <dr_willis> Aon,  perhaps ask in #android
[11:38] <ghsh> Melior: lost
[11:38] <bannik> anyone?
[11:39] <Melior> ghsh: well it's possible in windows at least ;) Just hoping for the same in linux.
[11:39] <ghsh> Melior: yes
[11:39] <Bella> how do I get l;atest live cd to boot on a macbook?
[11:39] <ghsh> Melior: it is
[11:39] <linxeh> Bella: hold down C
[11:39] <ghsh> Melior: there are many ways
[11:39] <Melior> ghsh: which are?
[11:40] <dr_willis> 'mc' lets me browse the contents of rar archives and copy things out...
[11:40] <Bella> linxeh, it goes through boot scripts but when it starts x it goes black screen
[11:40] <Bella> can't access tty's ect
[11:40] <ghsh> Melior: well you said you can mount it but it has the wrong permisions
[11:40] <linxeh> Bella: how long did you wait ?
[11:40] <Melior> ghsh: right.
[11:41] <ghsh> Melior: yes mc rocks and it uses rar and rar as back end
[11:41] <linxeh> Bella: Its been a long time, but I seem to remember it giving me a black screen for several minutes the last time I tried (this would have been on 8.10 or 9.x I guess)
[11:41] <Bella> linxeh, a LONG time
[11:41] <ghsh> Melior: THAT"S WHAT I SAID
[11:41] <Aon> Where i can download Android Execution Environment?
[11:41] <Melior> ghsh/ dr_willis: Still need to extract the content though with mc /unrar
[11:42] <linxeh> Bella: I'm downloading the 11.04 image now, as I want to try it on my recent macbook pro (so I can attempt to update my SSD firmware)
[11:42] <linxeh> Bella: what macbook do you have?
[11:42] <Bella> 2 or 3 years old... core 2 duo
[11:42] <linxeh> is it running osx atm ?
[11:42] <Bella> yeah
[11:42] <linxeh> apple -> about this mac -> more information
[11:43] <ghsh> Melior: exactly -- so as i said before
[11:43] <dr_willis> Melior,  yes.. thats going to be the case..  thats abouit all i ever do with rars anyway
[11:43] <linxeh> bella: it should give you a model identifier on the first page that comes up
[11:43] <ghsh> Melior: you have them mounted just wrong permision
[11:43] <linxeh> Bella: eg MacBook2,1 (mine is MacBookPro8,2, my older macbook is a 2,1)
[11:43] <dr_willis> rar - used badly in so many ways.. :)
[11:43] <Melior> ghsh: and how would you have done this to get right permissions? s: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573307
[11:44] <Bella> linxeh, 5,2
[11:44] <linxeh> Bella: nice :)
[11:45] <ghsh> Melior: mine would be neeter
[11:46] <loufoque_> how can I enable icons on the nautilus right-click menu?
[11:46] <linxeh> Bella: my parents have a 5,1 unibody which shares the same insides as yours pretty much - is yours a 2ghz or 2.13 ?
[11:47] <ghsh> Melior: they use chmod and if you just copied it thats the error
[11:48] <Melior> ghsh: I did just copy. But shouldn't it would as sudo user not matter what?
[11:49] <PythonSnake> hi
[11:49] <PythonSnake> help
[11:49] <PythonSnake> it wont let me check  allow executing file as a program
[11:49] <Abhijit> is there any software to take care of ajenda of meeting, notes, minutes etc?
[11:50] <PythonSnake> please..
[11:50] <ghsh> Melior:  it was a generic to "whom"
[11:50] <loufoque_> Abhijit: evolution can do it
[11:51] <PythonSnake> help?
[11:51] <loufoque_> there are also extensions to thunderbird to deal with calendars
[11:51] <barberan> hi
[11:51] <ghsh> Melior:  also your post is a good clue
[11:51] <loufoque_> PythonSnake: you need to be the owner of the file
[11:52] <PythonSnake> loufoque_: how ?
[11:52] <ghsh> you added a group and you are not the usr
[11:52] <barberan> I've just installed new ubuntu 11.04, and I do not like it's GUI... I'd like to come back to general GNOME... how do I switch it ?
[11:52] <oCean> !classic | barberan
[11:52] <Abhijit> loufoque_, ok
[11:52] <PythonSnake> how to be owner ?
[11:52] <PythonSnake> ?
[11:53] <Markus_> Hi all! Its sex chat?
[11:53] <Bella> linxeh, i have no idea, just want to know mint will boot on a macbook even with whatever options
[11:53] <oCean> Markus_: this is ubuntu support
[11:53] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  clafiry what you are doing exactgly.  and what filesystem the file is on.
[11:53] <ghsh> PythonSnake: chown
 oh good. And if i have ubuntu u help me with sex yes?
[11:54] <PythonSnake> I want to run an exe with wine. I have to  allow executing file as a program but it won't let me.
[11:54] <Bella> anyone, won't boot live on macbook 5,2
[11:54] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  copy the exe to your home dir.. and set its permissions.. or use the command line method -->   wine /path/to/whatever.exe
 PythonSnake,  clafiry what you are doing exactgly.  and what filesystem the file is on.
[11:55] <loufoque_> PythonSnake: only the owner or root can change the owner
[11:55] <dr_willis> you CANT change the permissions of a single file thats on a cd/dvd/ntfs/vfat filesystem..   it has to be done via mount options
[11:55] <loufoque_> I think
[11:55] <ghsh> dr_willis: hahaha man chmod and chown
[11:56] <ghsh> dr_willis: wrong
[11:56] <dr_willis> ghsh,  ntfs-3g does not allow it.
[11:57] <dr_willis> nor does ntfs , or vfat.. and you really cant cahgne permissions on optical media
[11:57] <yaneq> how can i output the contents of a file to the command line and highlight lines that match a search criteria?
[11:57] <dr_willis> ext2/3/4 - or whaever.. yes...  non-linux ones are the problem
[11:58] <ghsh> dr_willis: yes but do what you want
[11:58] <dr_willis> telling him to make it executable when the file is on an optical disk - is not going to work
[11:58] <dr_willis> wine /path/to./whatever.exe  will  work in any case
[11:58] <ghsh> <dr_willis
[11:59] <oshekfeh> Hello, I installed ubuntu recent, but I have a problem with Wifi network adapter driver, I found the driver file but I don't know how can I install this driver, the adapter is intel 5100 agn?
[11:59] <oCean> lilstevie: please disable the znc feature that changes your nick
 sun the djrfs whatever then jfs then  ext4
[11:59] <Melior> Any reason why this command only works for sudo: read -r _ num _ < <(sort -r -t: -n -k1 test.txt); echo "${num#\#}"
[11:59] <dilruk> i installed qbittorrent....when i minimized it dissapeared. how can i get it back
[12:00] <dilruk> im on unity
[12:00] <Melior> error is "-sh: syntax error near unexpected token `<'"
[12:00] <dr_willis> dilruk,  disable the feature of it to minimize to the systemtray,  unity blacklists most programs from going there  now a days. to reduce clutter.  is one way
[12:00] <dr_willis> dilruk,  or add it to the list of allowed apps to appear in the 'systray'
[12:01] <dilruk> how can i allow it?
[12:01] <pcypher> what was the name of that old web game where... I think the first level was to change the url to level two...
[12:01] <oCean> pcypher: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[12:01] <ghsh> dilruk>alt tab
[12:01] <CodenameStrike> dr_willis: actually, even with the blacklisting cleared from Unity, some Qt apps has the annoying issue to be hidden after it finishes its task
[12:01] <pcypher> Sorry Ocean...wrong window...
[12:01] <CodenameStrike> e/g: Kget
[12:01] <dr_willis> CodenameStrike,  lots of issues with lots of apps.. sadly
[12:02] <dr_willis> dilruk,  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:02] <oshekfeh> Hello, I installed ubuntu recent, but I have a problem with Wifi network adapter driver, I found the driver file but I don't know how can I install this driver, the adapter is intel 5100 agn?
[12:02] <dilruk> thanks i will take a look
[12:02] <dr_willis> they never should of enabled that whitelist/blacklist feature.. it causes way to many issues.. or they should of made some 'grandfather systray' gizmo you could use.
[12:02] <CodenameStrike> dr_willis: well with that the issue was apparently the app hides its tray icon when its idle, and has to be invoked from KDE's dropdown list of hidden tray icons
[12:02] <CodenameStrike> in the tray
[12:02] <dr_willis> Im not sure why  theres such a trend to change/hate/mess with the indicator-systray-stuff.
[12:03] <CodenameStrike> dr_willis: like?
[12:03] <CodenameStrike> well even if it wasn't enabled... I don't think the blacklist/whitelist problem applies to Qt apps
[12:03] <CodenameStrike> well, some of them, anyway
 man modprobe  and ismode
[12:04] <oshekfeh> ghsh: ok thanks
[12:04] <dr_willis> CodenameStrike,  they just basically broke many apps from even accessign it.. :)  why the trend to 'get rid of the left/right' menus, why no more animated icons.. why 'mono-color themes' buy default....
[12:05] <dr_willis> you can install 'alternative' systray programs like trayer, and stalonetray  to make it a littel easier.
[12:06] <Phylock> I have a problem with my webcams, i can only activate each of them once for each boot. Second time I try to start it I get a "select timeout". it doesn't matter(tried in vlc, opencv code, mplayer or fswebcam) in which program i start it, so i guess its a v4l2 problem. Any ideas how to continue?
[12:08] <pRoV7x>  dr_willis: thank you, i resized the partitions the way i wanted by the Gparted after puting it on a USB flash memory, using the Universal USB Installer, just like you said, it's awesome, nothing went wrong.
[12:08] <_dmk> hey, quick question: what does it mean if an original LiveCD from Cannonical stops in an black screen?
[12:09] <dr_willis> _dmk,  whats yoru video chipset?
[12:09] <_dmk> wait a minute :)
[12:09] <ghsh> Phylock; so simple my friend
[12:10] <dr_willis> Phylock,  you could try unload/reloading the module. but thats a bit of a dirty work around.
[12:10] <_dmk> ok graphics card should be an x1950 pro 256mb
[12:10] <ghsh> Phylock; just kill the pid
[12:11] <ghsh> Phylock; and if thats a pain make script than when you exit it kills it
[12:11] <_dmk> should be the Radeon R520 chipset
[12:12] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[12:12] <dr_willis> we need a factoid for that option.  its such a pain to explain how to enable it.
[12:12] <root> quit
[12:12] <Phylock> ghsh: cant find the pid, the program closes as it should.
[12:12] <oCean> dr_willis: you can suggest one in query with ubottu
[12:13] <ghsh> Phylock; ps -aux
[12:13] <dr_willis> oCean,  just foind a decent thread on it --->   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[12:13] <_dmk> ah yeah and the pc was working perfectly! now i shot my mbr and i am trying to get into the live cd to fix it
[12:13] <dr_willis> with screenshots :)
[12:13] <dr_willis> _dmk,  try enableing the nomodeset option - it may work -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[12:14] <Blades> hello
[12:15] <Blades> hi
[12:15] <Phylock> ghsh: i tried a doing that before and after and run a diff, no new processes
[12:16] <ghsh> Phylock; killall and kill -9
[12:18] <ghsh> Phylock; so -- are they dead
[12:18] <Phylock> ghsh: but i still doesn't know the PID, i cant see any new processes after running an application which uses v4l2, i just can't open the webcam vidio stream again until i have done a reboot
[12:19] <ghsh> <Phylock my dumb teen freind then kill it
[12:20] <pdeeg> Hi, there is any way i can upgrade mysql in ubuntu 10.10 to mysql/5.5.13 from pakages ?
[12:20] <PythonSnake> dr_willis: I copied to home and changed but when I copy it again it changes its permission..
[12:20] <dr_willis> Phylock,  unloading the webcam module, or the v4lin module might   reset it.
[12:20] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  try 'wine /path/to/the.exe'       that way you even see any error messages that may appear.
[12:21] <_dmk> dr_willis ok problem: the live cd boots up gives me an magenta screen than a black screen with a cursor blinking in the top left edge
[12:21] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[12:21] <dr_willis> _dmk,  you saw the ioptions screens that url showed? enabled nomodeset via the f6 key?
[12:22] <ghsh> dr_willis: none of that is like --- go help at #windows
[12:22] <dr_willis> ghsh,  whatever....
[12:22] <ghsh> dr_willis: LINUX
[12:23] <PythonSnake> dr_willis: it worked !
[12:23] <PythonSnake> thx
[12:23] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  if the installer works right. it should add an icon to the menus that launches the game.
[12:23] <PythonSnake> dr_willis: how to kill a process ?
[12:23] <PythonSnake> it froze
[12:23] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  ctrl-c in the terminal its running in., is one way.
[12:24] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  xkill in a differnt terminal, then click the offending window - is also a common way
[12:24] <vimalg2> PythonSnake: kill <pid>
[12:24] <vimalg2> else, kill -p <pid>
[12:24] <_dmk> dr_willis i had to hit "any key". sorry didn't see that
[12:24] <dr_willis> then theres use of the kill and killall commands.
[12:24] <dr_willis> _dmk,  wheres that darn anykey! :)
[12:24] <meera> which programm is best for ubuntu 10.4 + ipodtouch g3 for transfer photos?
[12:24] <_dmk> dr_willis now testing the nomodeset via the f6 key
[12:24] <vimalg2> PythonSnake: oops, i meant kill -9 <pid>
[12:24] <_dmk> dr_willis :p
[12:24] <oCean> dr_willis: do you have a minute for pm?
[12:25] <dr_willis> You should really try the niormal kill, then -9 if kill fails. :) but xkill is easier to use
[12:25] <dr_willis> oCean,  sure.
[12:25] <PythonSnake> where is xkill ?
[12:25] <dr_willis> wife is sleeping off her painpill
[12:25] <RevSpecies116> Terminal ;)
[12:25] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  open a terminal.. run xkill
[12:25] <gry> PythonSnake: Then click the window you want to kill.
[12:25] <PythonSnake> thanks
[12:26] <dr_willis> PythonSnake,  be carefull what window you click on once you see the skull with xkill.. it can kill the whole desktop
[12:26] <dr_willis> right click to cancle xkill
[12:26] <_dmk> dr_willis done, but i am also now in this black screen with the blinking cursor... but i will wait a few minut, probably my external cd is slow :p
[12:26] <PythonSnake> lol
[12:26] <_dmk> *minutes
[12:27] <sayz> dr_willis: i agree with you absltly
[12:27] <dr_willis> xkill - use with caution. :) thats why theres not an icon for it by default i imagine...
[12:27] <dr_willis> 'i wonder what this icon does' , 'oh a skull how cute'  'oh my system crashed...'
[12:27] <gry> dr_willis: Is there an icon for kill? :-)
[12:27] <dr_willis> You could make one. ive seen  them on some disrtos
[12:28] <gry> I see.
[12:28]  * dr_willis makes a hocky mask icon for xkill.
[12:28] <RevSpecies116> I've seen an xkill icon on DSL [DamnSmallLinux]
[12:28] <dr_willis> makes a script that plays some horror movie music...
[12:28] <gry> RevSpecies116: \o/
[12:28] <xarth> bonjour
[12:28] <gry> bonjour
[12:29] <RevSpecies116> Good day, xarth - can we help
[12:29] <RevSpecies116> ?
[12:29] <_dmk> dr_willis any other suggestions?
[12:31] <dr_willis> _dmk,  other then check your exact chipset of videocard and laptop on the forums and askubuntu.com - not really. theres just a lot of quirky issues with ati and nvidia  and some of the newer drivers/chipsets
[12:31] <dr_willis> _dmk,  you may be able to install using the alternative installer cd..  that pc dosent have one of those 2 video card setups does it?
[12:32] <gimpy1380> I'm tyring to VNC into a 10.04 box and I can see the desktop but I can't move or click anything even though I have the box checked to allow me to control it.  Any ideas why?
[12:32] <Goliath> hey
[12:32] <Goliath> does ubuntu deliver free installation cds?
[12:32] <wols> not anymore
[12:32] <RevSpecies116> Goliath: Not anymore
[12:32] <elyawy> no sound in ubuntu on imac 9,1anyway to get a fix? and push it into an update?
[12:32] <RevSpecies116> But check out your nearest LoCo group - they may help you out
[12:32] <Goliath> RevSpecies116: LoCo?
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> Local Community
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> LoCo
[12:33] <Goliath> oh
[12:33] <dr_willis> book stores often have the various linux magazines that include disks as well.
[12:33] <Goliath> RevSpecies116: i can install my systems. i was just curious how could ubuntu give free of charge cds
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> For example, I am in New Zealand - so if I needed local support, I'd look out for the loco-nz :)
[12:34] <Goliath> it seems canonical has really expanded
[12:34] <dr_willis> Goliath,  they had lots of $$$ :)
[12:34] <dr_willis> it was good marketing i guess to get a foot in the door sort of thing.
[12:34] <RevSpecies116> Goliath: Canonical stopped Shipit with I believe 9.10
[12:34] <dr_willis> I thought shipit stopped only recently.
[12:35] <tsimpson> it stopped sometime after the last LTS I think
[12:35] <dr_willis> i will confess.. i did get a few free cd's because i could. :)
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> Nope - otherwise I'd have a 10.04LTS CD from Shipit
[12:35] <sudokill> its nice to have official cd
[12:35] <quiescens> effort
[12:35] <tsimpson> but, it just became too expensive to keep shipping free CDs around the world...
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> Your nearest LoCo's may hook you up with free CD's and stickers
[12:35] <Goliath> ubuntu may some time frustrate more advanced linux users
[12:35] <whiter> anyone know why i can't connect to for example port 2082?
[12:36] <Goliath> but it has done a good job
[12:36] <Goliath> at least versus os x and windows
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> Goliath: Start http://loco.ubuntu.com/ <-- There :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> its the old.. 'press forward with new innovations' or 'stick to what everyone knows' trap.
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> Unity is the future of Ubuntu :)
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> I cannot wait for 12.04LTS
[12:37] <dr_willis> current trend in os's seem to be 'full speed ahead! who cares if we break old stuff....'
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[12:37] <RevSpecies116> And Weyland in 14.04LTS
[12:37] <whiter> ghsh, thanks, it was mobloquer
[12:38] <Goliath> RevSpecies116: does canonical make money from giving support to companies?
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> Yes
[12:38] <dr_willis> they sell linux support to companies I thouight.. :)
[12:38] <ghsh> :)
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> But it does not make a 'profit'
[12:39] <krisss117> hi, i have a problem, when i connect my TV to my laptop (on S-Video) i see the screen, but all screen shake
[12:39] <_dmk> dr_willis i only have one graphic card. Ubuntu ran before: perfectly, but since yesterday my mbr is broken and i have to restore it.
[12:40] <dr_willis> _dmk,  how did you break the mbr?
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> krisss117: Is your TV an LCD or a old CRT?
[12:41] <_dmk> dr_willis don't ask me, just wanted to boot my system up and then "no bootable device found: please insert a..."
[12:41] <dr_willis> _dmk,  err. that could be the hard drive failed..
[12:42] <_dmk> dr_willis hopefully not
[12:42] <dr_willis> _dmk,  or your bios is not seeing the hds at all.
[12:42] <dr_willis> i would check the bios first.
[12:42] <_dmk> dr_willis checking...
[12:42] <dr_willis> also some more basic linux live cd's may help check things out also.. a tiny-core-linux iso would at least let you see what hds are seen. and should work on any setup. (10mb download)
[12:43] <gimpy1380> So no one has seen where VNC will let yu see the desktop but not change it?
[12:43] <_dmk> dr_willis oh u are right no hdds in bios
[12:43] <_dmk> dr_willis checing the cable, to be sure :p
[12:43] <elyawy> i have no sound on ubuntu with my imac is there any fix?
[12:44] <dr_willis> _dmk,  i had a weird case once. where the cable got 'cut' by a sharp edge on  the metal. cut one wire of the ide cable...
[12:44] <dr_willis> took me forver to figure that out.
[12:45] <dr_willis> sata at least seem a lot better designed :)
[12:45] <gimpy1380> dr_willis: IDE?  Sweet, it's 1998 again!
[12:45] <ChaosSaber> dr_willis, I can relate to that, had a fan that ate my cable once
[12:45] <dr_willis> elyawy,  what kind of imac?
[12:45] <dr_willis> ChaosSaber,  yep. been there also...
[12:45] <elyawy> model 9,1
[12:45] <dr_willis> 9.1 means nothing to me for an imac...
[12:45] <dr_willis> ppc? intel?
[12:45] <elyawy> intel
[12:46] <dr_willis> there should be rather exetnsive forum posts on using ubuntu and macs.. you check there yet?
[12:46] <dr_willis> !mac
[12:46] <wsagent> is ubuntu 10.10 a LTS version ?
[12:46] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:46] <elyawy> i have already checked
[12:46] <dr_willis> wsagent,  no. :)
[12:46] <_dmk> dr_willis just plugged out and plugged in the sata and now it works
[12:46] <_dmk> haha
[12:46] <ChaosSaber> dr_willis, when I installed ubuntu some how I wiped my bootloader for win7 lol
[12:46] <dr_willis> _dmk,  hot plugged? :)
[12:46] <_dmk> thanks :p
[12:46] <_dmk> dr_willis no :)
[12:46] <dr_willis> ChaosSaber,  i let ubuntu handle the bootloading..
[12:47] <ChaosSaber> yeah I learnt that the hard way lol
[12:47] <wsagent> Thanks ubottu and dr_willis
[12:47] <ChaosSaber> ended up having to reinstall on both drives
[12:47] <dr_willis> _dmk,  the whole 'sata' hot plugging 'feature' seems  to be somthing that onece people talked about.. but ive never seen actually used.
[12:47] <dr_willis> ChaosSaber,  on 2 hd setups. i keep grub on the linux hd.. and dont let it touch windows.
[12:47] <ChaosSaber> mostly used for esata
[12:47] <elyawy> but the fix is not good
[12:48] <_dmk> dr_willis it will also not work in bios :p
[12:48] <RevSpecies116> elyawy: Did you mean MAC9.1 or Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:48] <dr_willis> esata - i ahve some of those also.. but it never seems to work. -   usb3 seems to be gaining foothold however.. thats good.
[12:48] <elyawy> mac 9,1
[12:48] <PythonSnake> Hi ChaosSaber
[12:48] <PythonSnake> :)
[12:48] <RevSpecies116> 9,1 is not a number :(
[12:48] <RevSpecies116> 9.1?
[12:48] <ChaosSaber> Im still rockin USB2.0 lol
[12:49] <elyawy> yep
[12:49] <dr_willis> ChaosSaber,  i got pcs with usb1 :)
[12:49] <ChaosSaber> PythonSnake, hi
[12:49] <_dmk> ok i am gone :p
[12:49] <_dmk> cheers
[12:49] <cba123> I have a mdadm raid5 on another machine.  When I copy from it with scp, I get a few MB/s, then it stalls, copying to it I have no issues.  Any ideas?
[12:49] <elyawy> the first  2009 20 inch model
[12:49] <ChaosSaber> Im runnin the last of 775 and don't really want to run i7
[12:50] <RevSpecies116> Hmmm, I did not think MacOS9 was Intel based
[12:50] <RevSpecies116> I thought DB Jobs converted to intel with MacOS X
[12:50] <dr_willis> RevSpecies116,  as far as i know . its not...
[12:50] <elyawy> not mac os 9
[12:50] <dr_willis> I dont recall macs having #'s like that either.
[12:50] <RevSpecies116> MacOS X = Mac OS 10 ;)
[12:50] <elyawy> i know that
[12:51] <osos> hi! Ubuntu doesn't recognize my scanner. It's an Epson Stylus DX4400. Device is recognized as a printer.
[12:51] <dr_willis> I finally got rid of my only imacDV :)
[12:51] <Yeti_69> !fr
[12:51] <dr_willis> osos,  is it a scanner/printer combo?
[12:51] <elyawy> in all linux distributions there is no sound on this model
[12:51] <osos> Does anyone know how to tackle this problem.
[12:51] <osos> dr_willis: aye.
[12:51] <RevSpecies116> elyawy: I'm not sure you are explaining the whole situation in a way we can help :(
[12:51] <osos> connected through usb.
[12:51] <RevSpecies116> You are running Ubuntu 9.10 on a Mac computer?
[12:51] <dr_willis> osos,  check the linuxprinting.org site to see what it says about the device. it may need to be manually setup.
[12:52] <osos> dr_willis: cheers, I'll do that.
[12:54] <elyawy> no, i am running ubuntu 11.04 on my imac and the sound is not working , it is an intel imac from 2009 there is a fix on the ubuntu website but the sound is not as strong as it should be .
[12:55] <RevSpecies116> Thanks, elyawy  - That gives us more info to help you with :)
[12:56] <elyawy> i would also like to know if it is possible to push an update into ubuntu to fix that bug once and for all  :)
[12:58] <RevSpecies116> elyawy: If you have a patch you want included in the next Ubuntu release [11.10], then as long as your code's copyright has been signed over to Canonical and it works, it should be included :)
[12:58] <dr_willis> so the fix on the web site is not realy a fix?
[12:58] <dr_willis> but the problem exists on other disrots and linux releases as well?
[12:59] <elyawy> this problem exist on all linux distros i have tried
[12:59] <elyawy> i don't have a patch  :(
[13:00] <gry> !bugs
[13:00] <gry> elyawy: you can file one and submit a patch if you like
[13:00] <gry> elyawy: there's bugs.debian.org as well iirc
[13:00] <dr_willis> or at least post a link to the 'fix' you have found.
[13:01] <dr_willis> but if its affecting other disrots as well.. sounds like an alsa or kernel issue.
[13:01] <elyawy> yep it is alsa actually (i think)
[13:01] <Neohasreturned> Hi all noob here could someone tell me if there is a program that enables you to have a virtual cd drive a bit like daemon tools virtual drive by elby?
[13:02] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  you can mount iso files to a directory. no special tools needed
[13:02] <dr_willis> !loop
[13:02] <dr_willis> !iso
[13:02] <dr_willis> theres also a front end to doing that i recall.
[13:02] <tsimpson> Neohasreturned: that's built into linux, you don't need external software like in some other OS's
[13:02] <dr_willis> dont expect disk-based copy protection to work with it however...
[13:02] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, Is there an easy way to do it?
[13:03] <dr_willis> « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> »    is easy..
[13:03] <dr_willis> :)
[13:03] <Neohasreturned> tsimpson, I aint very familiar with terminal
[13:03] <dr_willis> i forget the nautilus extension to add it to the menus..
[13:03] <dr_willis> ive seen it done wher eyou right click on iso, and can mount it.
[13:03] <tsimpson> Neohasreturned: there is gmountiso
[13:03] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, What I'm trying to do is test different distros in vbox without burning the isos
[13:04] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: Do you use the ubuntu Software Center, or Apt-get?
[13:04] <Neohasreturned> gmountiso is that gui based?
[13:04] <elyawy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[13:04] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I use software centre
[13:04] <tsimpson> Neohasreturned: yes, it's a GUI that just runs the commands for you in the background
[13:04] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  vbox has that feature built in.. no need to do ANY of this ...
[13:05] <Neohasreturned> tsimpson, Thanks for that
[13:05] <tsimpson> true, you don't mount anything to use ISOs in vbox
[13:05] <dr_willis> NeoBlaster,  you just add the iso to the vbox volume manager thing...    so you are going about this the wrong wauy :)
[13:05] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, I didn't realise it did that
[13:05] <dr_willis> i test all these live cd's in vbox that way
[13:05] <dr_willis> :)
[13:05] <dr_willis> vbox's interface is a little.. odd..
[13:05] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, Easier to use than vmware tho
[13:05] <dr_willis> theres some icon that gets to the  disk manager thing.
[13:05] <dr_willis> I gave up on vmware ages ago.
[13:06] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, I will try it thanks
[13:06] <dr_willis> In vbox. you could use the menus and mount a cd/iso/ also.. then reboot vbox. that can work
[13:07] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, Thanks alot you wouldn't happen to know what is the best program to rip audio cds I have tried some and they rip very low or to WAV
[13:08] <RevSpecies116> Audio CD Extractor, Neohasreturned - will rip to OGG's too :)
[13:08] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  most are front ends to the command line tools..  so they can be cofngired to do what you want.
[13:08] <dr_willis> or rip to wav. then convert to whatever.
[13:09] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, OGG's are very low quality though aren't they what I am trying to do is convert to 320kbs MP3 so I can transfer to my ipod
[13:09] <dr_willis> it all depends on the options you tell it to use i imagine.
[13:10] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, I have come across programs that rip cds but only very low mp3 quality
[13:10] <dr_willis> and they proberly have options you can pass to them for  higher quality.
[13:10] <RevSpecies116> Incorrect, Neohasreturned - OGG's are actually very good - 160kbs has been scientifically shown to be the transparency threshhold
[13:10] <dr_willis> I convert mine to mono. :) since im just playing them as ringtones on my phone...
[13:10] <RevSpecies116> And by transparency - I mean up to the point the human ears cannot persever a difference from the original audio
[13:11] <RevSpecies116> But if you are looking for lossless - rip to FLAC
[13:11] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Do Ipods support OGG formats tho?
[13:11] <dr_willis> !ipod
[13:11] <RevSpecies116> Hmmm, Neohasreturned - that is something you could ask Steve Jobs?
[13:12] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, lol I like high quality music on my ipod without as much loss quality as flac lol
[13:12] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I will just text him hang on lol
[13:12] <dr_willis> i do have quiet a few of my cd's ripped to flacc.
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> FLAC is lossless
[13:12] <dr_willis> flac :)
[13:12] <trancegeek> can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/RAT2RAvR
[13:13] <RevSpecies116> FLAC has been scientifically been shown to be the exact same as ripping to wav
[13:13] <ashugeek> hey is there any one who can guide me to create a dial up connection in ubuntu
[13:13] <Neohasreturned> But Flac isn't supported on ipod and also converts to high sizes
[13:13] <dr_willis> on my High end $10 pc speakers - i cant tell the differance..
[13:13] <dr_willis> sounds like a flaw with the player if it cant support flac. :)
[13:13] <RevSpecies116> Gosh, doesn't Mr Jobs like the Open Source codecs?
[13:13] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I can see where your coming from because WAV files tend to be large
[13:13] <tsimpson> Neohasreturned: so use rockbox on your ipod :)
[13:14] <tsimpson> !rockbox
[13:14] <dr_willis> trancegeek,  do you have an actual ubuntu question? or did you p[aste the wrong url?
[13:14] <trancegeek> !offtopic | tsimpson
[13:14] <Neohasreturned> tsimpson, It don't support my ipod I have a 5th generation one I use gtkpod to transfer music onto it
[13:14] <tsimpson> trancegeek: no, it's not
[13:14] <jragon> Can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/RAT2RAvR
[13:15] <Neohasreturned> trancegeek, I am just getting software support for my ipod it isn't off topic
[13:15] <RevSpecies116> trancegeek = jragon
[13:15] <dr_willis> jragon,   You have an actual support question? or are you just trolling/pasteing the wrong url?
[13:15] <jragon> Nah mate
[13:15] <Revenant____> Can anyone help me? I'm using gnome3. My menus work fine and are themed, but my nm-applet menus are ugly. Why?
[13:15] <wols> !ops please remove trancegeek and his sockpuppet jribas
[13:15] <dr_willis> Revenant____,  because gnome-3 is a work in progress.
[13:15] <trancegeek> sockpuppet lol
[13:15] <trancegeek> look at the whois jackass
[13:15] <dr_willis> Revenant____,  the webupd8 site has some tips on using it.
[13:16] <trancegeek> completely different ip's in different regions that are cable ip's which most likely aren't proxy servers
[13:16] <Revenant____> dr_willis, would you personally be able to help me?
[13:16] <trancegeek> use common sense bro
[13:16] <gry> trancegeek: Keep it civil.
[13:16] <dr_willis> Revenant____,  nope.
[13:16] <dr_willis> Revenant____,  i dont use gnome3. never have.. (other then to look at it)  and its nto really supported under ubuntu yet.
[13:16] <Revenant____> okay then
[13:17] <dr_willis> Revenant____,  as i said. its very much a work in progress.. so issues are not supriseing
[13:17] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, In answer to your audio extracter program it only converts to low format
[13:18] <dr_willis> which audio extracter program?
[13:18] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, When I used to use mint there was a program called preload which would speed up bootup and performance but I can't see it on here is there any other program you can think of?
[13:18] <RevSpecies116> Perhaps you don't have gstreamer installed?
[13:18] <cba123> I have a mdadm raid5, which thinks it has 2 failures.  It says one of the drives has a different superblock than the others, I'd really appreciate any help.  Here's a pastebin of my mdadm --detail http://pastebin.com/wczK41Cu /dev/sde1 is the drive that says it has a bad superblock
[13:19] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, gstreamer?
[13:19] <wols> Neohasreturned: you don't what to do that
[13:19] <solar_> Kello :3
[13:19] <Neohasreturned> wols, How come?
[13:19] <trancegeek> strike!
[13:19] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  ive vaguly recall it mentioned befor. but never tried it or worried about it.
[13:19] <solar_> --help
[13:20] <oCean> trancegeek: stay on topic please and stop with the useless messages
[13:20] <wols> oh, was thinking about prelinking. preload is a cache modifying program.
[13:20] <dr_willis> could be preload is allready included.. i seemt o recall seeing some messges about it on boot up.
[13:20] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, it was called preload on mint so I would have thought beens mint was based on ubuntu
[13:20] <wols> !info preload
[13:20] <dr_willis> wols,  that may be it also.
[13:20] <solar_> menu
[13:20] <Neohasreturned> wols, It is called preload
[13:21] <dr_willis> wols,  i recall those things being a big 'deal' a few years back.. everyone was messing with them.. then . now a days - its just stuff people dont bother with
[13:21] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  package name is 'preload' it seems...
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> sound-juicer
[13:21] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I tried sound-juicer it weren't very good
[13:21] <wols> dr_willis: stuff like this is just like back then it was with RAM and sex: both are better when they're not faked. in this case: get a SSD if you really must boot in seconds
[13:22] <Neohasreturned> Does anyone recommend installing Fluendo codecs?
[13:23] <honghong> what's this
[13:23] <honghong> leaving
[13:23] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  i dont see much point in not installing them.. :)
[13:23] <dr_willis> theres the free versions of them. I always tell it to install during the initial install of the os
[13:23] <dr_willis> honghong,  bye then...
[13:24] <eselle1> hey, im not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is there any way to get 'find' to just return files, not directories
[13:24] <cba123> I hate to be one of the people to keep asking, but can anyone please help me or at least point me to another channel where I can get help?  I have a lot of data on this raid, and don't want to do anyting else to risk losing it.  http://pastebin.com/wczK41Cu
[13:24] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, It appears I did when I installed Ubuntu but I am on software centre and come across and it shows use this source?
[13:25] <wols> eselle1: -type f
[13:25] <honghong> where are you from?
[13:25] <y3ll05Ark> #antisec
[13:25] <dr_willis> Neohasreturned,  no idea. ive never installed it afterwards
[13:25] <eselle1> you are my hero wols
[13:25] <Neohasreturned> it contains gstreamer?
[13:26] <dr_willis> gstreamer is used by many things.. its not a codec i think exactly
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> cba, how many drives failed?
[13:26] <dr_willis> but gstreamer can use those codecs
[13:26] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, What is gstreamer?
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> gstreamer is codecs
[13:27] <solar_> How do i shoot web?
[13:27] <PI_314> where are the system tools in unity, which can be found in gnome in the task bar on top of the screen?
[13:27] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Is that why I couldn't change the conversion setting on sound-juicer?
[13:27] <dr_willis> !gstreamer
[13:27] <RevSpecies116> Possibly, Neohasreturned
[13:27] <honghong> I'am a newer
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> For example, the setting I have with sound-jucier on the mp3 listing is:
[13:28] <gry> solar_: What are you trying to do?
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> Now, if I wanted better audio I would change vbr-quality=6 into vbr-quality=7 or vbr-quality=8
[13:29] <Abhijit> solar_, ?? explain?
[13:29] <Abhijit> welcome honghong
[13:29] <solar_> gry: i cannot configure my Canon LBS3000 :<
[13:29] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Does it not just have a drop down box to choose what settings you want?
[13:29] <Abhijit> ahhh wec = web cam
[13:29] <Abhijit> web*
[13:29] <RevSpecies116> Doesn't work like that in Linux, Neohasreturned at all :)
[13:30] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Gonna take me a while to get over my windows brainwashing I think
[13:30] <dr_willis> rip to a lossless format , then reencode as you need to whatever your player wants...
[13:30] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, So how would I configure it to convert to mp3 32okbps
[13:31] <solar_> Abhijit: ... and i'm trying to improve my negotiation skills :)
[13:31] <solar_> oh well
[13:31] <PI_314> does anyone know where the system tools - like network settings, encryption keys and so on - can be found in unity?
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> For that, Neohasreturned, you have to venture into Terminal ;)
[13:31] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, When you say terminal its like watching a scary movie I have no idea how to use that thing
[13:31] <Mion> abcde, rip to flac, then reencode to mp3/acc/whatever as needed
[13:31] <solar_> quit
[13:31] <solar_> exit
[13:32] <solar_> escape
[13:32] <Mion> /quit works better
[13:32] <solar_> run away
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> :) Neohasreturned :)
[13:32] <solar_> thank u
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> Actually, if you are patient AND have a lot of HDD space, I would recommend ripping to WAV with Sound-Juicer
[13:33] <dr_willis> flac and wav should take up same space? or not. Ive never noticed.
[13:33] <D-F3NS> hey folks, how can i easily check if my netbook is running with acpi or not? Im using ubuntu 11.04
[13:33] <RevSpecies116> And then using sound-converter to encode them to 320kbs MP3's
[13:33] <elyawy> so i guess i should go fill a bug report for alsa for my sound problem
[13:33] <tsimpson> dr_willis: no, flac is compressed, just not lossy
[13:33] <RevSpecies116> Just checked, and it allows CBR 320kbs
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> whats the best app for printing labels in natty?
[13:33] <dr_willis> tsimpson,  ok,  i was thinking one was compressed.
[13:33] <RevSpecies116> FLAC = lossless compression
[13:33] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, What allows 320CBR
[13:34] <RevSpecies116> sound converter - a gui
[13:34] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, So would I be better at converting to FLAC then using sound convertor to convert it to mp3 at 320CBR
[13:34] <RevSpecies116> So it is a two step process - rip to Lossless, and convert to 320kbs MP3 :)
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> Yep, exactly, Neohasreturned
[13:35] <dr_willis> what if i want 649kbs ! :)
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> A bit convoluted, but it gets you there in the end
[13:35] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, Then convert to flac lol
[13:35] <dr_willis> what if i want 640000000 kbs ! :)
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> iPods only handle up to 320kbs - I looked it up ;)
[13:35] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Is there a lossless format in sound-juicer?
[13:35] <dr_willis> I want my Kenny G. collection to sound as good as it can.
[13:36] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, They dont they can tolerate apple lossless
[13:36] <shaibn> Hello :) I want to run a find, on all the files that changed in the past 24 hours, but *didn't change* in the past 30min. Is this Ok: find /path/to/directory -type f -cmin +30 -mtime -1
[13:36] <dr_willis> sound-juicer may show/hide options depending on what support tools you have installed.
[13:36] <RevSpecies116> Yep - choose CD Quality lossless (.flac type)
[13:36] <dr_willis> bbl - off to the store.
[13:37] <Neohasreturned> dr_willis, kenny g lol. sound-juicer option how do you mean?
[13:37] <RevSpecies116> In sound juicer, there should be a pull down menu and in that menu should be:
[13:37] <d5418007> hi!
[13:37] <RevSpecies116> CD Quality lossless (.flac type)
[13:37] <Cuzzie_> exit
[13:38] <RevSpecies116> (in preferences)
[13:38] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Yeah I can see that then once that has copied I then use sound converter?
[13:38] <RevSpecies116> Then in sound converter (my version is 1.5.3)
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> edit->preferences
[13:40] <Neohasreturned> Yeah I am in sound converter preferences it allows CBR but don't let you set the size?
[13:40] <RevSpecies116> Then: Format: MP3, Bitrate: Constant CBR, Quality: insainly high
[13:40] <RevSpecies116> Insanely High = 320kbs
[13:41] <shaibn> or maybe this would be better: find /var/lib/psa/dumps/1/1 -type f -cmin -600 -mtime -1
[13:41] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Thanks your a life saver. Just one quick question are you familiar with k3b at all?
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> That is a CD burner?
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> I don't use KDE programmes [loyal to GNOME ;) ]
[13:41] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Yeah for some reason it doesn't allow me to burn audio cds?
[13:42] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I love gnome too but heard k3b is the best program
[13:42] <RevSpecies116> I use Brasero to burn my CD's - seems to do the job I want it to :)
[13:43] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I just thought it was strange why it didn't burn my mp3's lol I have just googled and you can configure sound-juicer to convert mp3 to 320kbps lol
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> Do you have to change something in that long line of text?
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux  <--- Change something in this mess to something better?
[13:45] <Neohasreturned> audio/x-raw is starts with
[13:46] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Done it that was easy just copied and pasted it lol
[13:46] <RevSpecies116> LOL - :)
[13:46] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Have you got yours set to 320kbps or would you like me to copy and paste it for you?
[13:47] <RevSpecies116> I have Android - so I use OGG :)
[13:47] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Fair enough was just trying to be helpful back lol
[13:48] <RevSpecies116> LOL - appreciated Neohasreturned :) But payment in return is coming back into this room several times and helping others in need :)
[13:48] <RevSpecies116> You never know, I may need audio help in the future with conversion - and I may have to turn to you Neohasreturned  ;)
[13:49] <D-F3NS> hey folks, how can i check if my netbook is running with acpi and its working properly? (ubuntu 11.04)
[13:49] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I will help if I can but like I say my knowledge lay with windows lol you any good at getting windows games to work?
[13:49] <RevSpecies116> I use windows for my gaming needs ;)
[13:49] <RevSpecies116> LOL - even I haven't come away fully from the teat ;)
[13:50] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I have fully migrated but I have a game I love on windows
[13:50] <RevSpecies116> WineHQ AppDB may help you with that one?
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> http://appdb.winehq.org/ :)
[13:51] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Wine isn't very good tried it before lol
[13:52] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Plus I think this game has directx
[13:53] <lulu> hi
[13:53] <lulu> i just installed natty in my laptop and when i boot i drop to BusyBox with (initramfs) prompt
[13:53] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Apparantly it works with wine?
[13:53] <lulu> i can login if after about 5 min, i type exit
[13:53] <lulu> but how can i fix that?
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: They just released an update [as they always do] for WINE - more DX9 stuff integrated :)
[13:54] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Its alot of terminal configuring tho only problem
[13:55] <RevSpecies116> Unfortunately yes :)
[13:55] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I did try playing games in vbox before but for some reason they dont work in it
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: to get #D support in vbox, you need to add the 'guests addon'
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> #D = 3D ;)
[13:56] <rofecoxib> to the best of my understanding i need to edit run levels to activate the xserver without a display manager at boot before login. what is the best way to go about this? i see a lot of files in /etc/init.d/ but it's all greek to me
[13:56] <rofecoxib> *runlevels
[13:57] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Yeah I did all that I don't think vbox works with directx
[13:58] <arunkumar413> i'm using vodafone's ZTE k3570-z 3G usb modem to connect to net using network manager. But i have to unplug and plug the device several times before establishing a connection.i want to connect in a single dial. Here is the syslog about the connection http://pastebin.com/kUvZrVsE
[13:58] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[13:58] <RevSpecies116> Ahhhh :(
[13:59] <magpii> i am having major issue with banshee media player. everytime it opens up a music file, terminal window opens and just keeps on opening everytime i close it. after i close it so many times, it spams my desktop with terminal windows
[13:59] <RevSpecies116> arunkumar413: Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:59] <rofecoxib> 1432 people in here not one person can help?
[14:00] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, IS there much diff between 10.04 and 10.10?
[14:00] <RevSpecies116> rofecoxib: Sorry, it is all greek to me, too :)
[14:00] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: Yes and no :)
[14:00] <Neohasreturned> rofecoxib, I would help if I could
[14:00] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Looks wise?
[14:00] <rofecoxib> RevSpecies116: lets find us a greek and force him to explain to us
[14:00] <arunkumar413> RevSpecies116: ubuntu 11.04
[14:00] <RevSpecies116> Yes as in less sopport time, changed GUI, and improoved Kernal
[14:00] <magpii> i am a noob when it comes to computers sorry rof
[14:01] <RevSpecies116> Oh, between 10.04LTS and 11.04 there are huge differences :)
[14:01] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 is not LTS
[14:01] <Cradam> 12.04 is LTS
[14:01] <magpii> someone tell me how to stop terminal window spamming my desktop whenever i open banshee media player please?
[14:01] <RevSpecies116> bummer, arunkumar413 - that device is meant to work out of the box in 11.04 :(
[14:02] <RevSpecies116> 12.04 will be LTS, yes - that will be my next version of Ubuntu I install
[14:02] <kreshnik> hi
[14:02] <RevSpecies116> Currently sticking with 10.04LTS here
[14:02] <kreshnik> ciao
[14:02] <jll> 11.04 is not even at the alfa stage and it has a lot of problems. why release something that's not going to work right? lol
[14:02] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, I didn't like 11.04
[14:02] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 was a testbed for a few things - the kinks will be worked out by April 2012 :)
[14:02] <Neohasreturned> I am using 10.10
[14:03] <arunkumar413> RevSpecies116: its working and i'm able to connect but i have to unplug and plug several times to coonect. some times i have to do it for an hour
[14:04] <pythonirc1012> when i ssh to my machine at work using ssh, the pine terminal is one line shifted up...any ideas how to fix this? I tried set TERM=vt100... didnt work
[14:04] <RevSpecies116> arunkumar413: that is not my idea of working 'out of the box' - I'd be pulling my hair out if I was you :( I am sorry, though, I don't know how to help with that particular issue
[14:04] <pythonirc1012> ok, setenv fixed it, thanks
[14:05] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, Can you tell me whether on your sound juicer where it has settings it has Identify first?
[14:05] <arunkumar413> RevSpecies116: can you figure out the cause by looking at the syslog?
[14:06] <RevSpecies116> arunkumar413: I took a look at the log on pastebin you posted - I can't interpret the issue :(
[14:06] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: Identified? you mean out of the box? I think I have about 7 options
[14:07] <RevSpecies116> With two of those option being useless for me - voice lossy and voice lossless
[14:07] <Neohasreturned> where it says gstreamer pipeline
[14:08] <RevSpecies116> ohhh, Neohasreturned mine doesn't say anything abou the gstreamer pipeline [that I can see], do I need to dig deeper?
[14:09] <RevSpecies116> Oh, I see it now :)
[14:09] <RevSpecies116> The gstreamer pipeline is that stuff:
[14:09] <Neohasreturned> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mu
[14:09] <RevSpecies116> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux  <--- Change something in this mess to something better?
[14:09] <Neohasreturned> does it say anything before audio/x?
[14:10] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:10] <D-F3NS> magpii, get rid of banshee, it just sucks. use audacious
[14:10] <RevSpecies116> Nope - just starts with 'audio/....... blah blah'
[14:10] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, thanks i did it right i think
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> but if you want 320kbs, I think the vbr part needs to be cbr
[14:11] <Neohasreturned> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc bitrate=320 ! id3v2mux
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, there you have it
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> :)
[14:11] <sourabh> hi
[14:11] <sourabh> there
[14:12] <Abhijit> hi SoulRaven
[14:12] <Abhijit> hi sourabh
[14:12] <sourabh> hi abhijit
[14:12] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, making notes so i remember in future lol
[14:13] <sourabh> whats going on ?
[14:13] <RevSpecies116> Notes are always good, Neohasreturned - because you may need to do this again when you next update from 10.10 to 12.04LTS ;)
[14:13] <Abhijit> sourabh, offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:13] <RevSpecies116> sourabh - how can we help?
[14:13] <sourabh> oh sorry
[14:13] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, i wont i dont like the new interface lol
[14:14] <sourabh> well i just downloaded and installed ubuntu
[14:14] <RevSpecies116> Did you know the normal interface from 10.10 is included in 11.04?
[14:14] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu Classic ;)
[14:14] <zeddd> yup
[14:14] <zeddd> login screen <3
[14:14] <sourabh> yes
[14:15] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, really i just saw this buggy system lol
[14:15] <sourabh> did anybody knows how to install LAMP
[14:15] <zeddd> im not the only one who finds the new interface rubbish, am i?
[14:15] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: I cannot disagree with that statement
[14:15] <Neohasreturned> zeddd, it sucks
[14:15] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 is on the unstable side
[14:15] <zeddd> :D
[14:16] <Abhijit> !lamp | sourabh
[14:16] <zeddd> anyways can someone help me with a matter?
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> 10.10 is good
[14:16] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:16] <zeddd> im trying to get some drivers for a webcam working
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> whats 10.04 like RevSpecies116
[14:16] <RevSpecies116> I love 10.04LTS - so very stable
[14:16] <RevSpecies116> But it is an LTS - so it really has to be
[14:16] <sourabh> thanks
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> zeddd, have you trued updating hrdware drivers?
[14:17] <zeddd> im following some guide atm
[14:17] <PythonSnake> is 10.04 or 11.04 better ?
[14:17] <zeddd> installed some source
[14:17] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, isn't 10.10 stable?
[14:17] <PythonSnake> !wine
[14:17] <RevSpecies116> python - checks and balances.
[14:17] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:17] <RevSpecies116> For example, I cannot run a 3G USB modem from Vodafone in 10.04LTS
[14:17] <sourabh> hay anybody knows python here?
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> but with kernal updates to 11.04, it runs out of the box
[14:18] <jrib> sourabh: #python for help writing python
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> but with 11.04, you get other changes - unstable-ness
[14:18] <dall> hello
[14:18] <PythonSnake> hi
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> so it really is checks and balances
[14:18] <PythonSnake> is 11.04 or 10.04 better ?
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> 10.04LTS from a stability point of view
[14:18] <sudokill> everyone asks that
[14:18] <oCean> Please keep the general discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, and this for support purposes
[14:18] <dall> what server do i have to use to update the time of my ubuntu ?
[14:18] <dall> ntpudate {server}
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 for the 'futureproof' point of view
[14:19] <dall> what server?
[14:19] <dall> *ntpdate
[14:19] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, what you think of mint?
[14:19] <oCean> Neohasreturned: that is offtopic here, thanks
[14:20] <RevSpecies116> Did Osmodivs leave? I was about to tell him that is not a bug but a security feature
[14:20] <Neohasreturned> Sorry oCean
[14:20] <oCean> Neohasreturned: welcome to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[14:20] <sudokill> RevSpecies116, yes he left
[14:21] <RevSpecies116> In recent times, the only other distro I've tried is TinyCore - Linux in 10MB's is fun ;)
[14:23] <dall> ??
[14:24] <Gethiox> Is it possible to block text mode in ubuntu? Same as ctrl + alt + L in Gnome.
[14:26] <wols> Gethiox: it's always "blocked". you need a username and password to log in
[14:27] <PAB> What is hte concurrency level (i.e. the --jobs variable in make)  for an 8 thread CPU (i7- 2600k)? I want to use 8. Too many could lead in a conflict, too less wouldn't use entire power of the CPU. Right?
[14:27] <sudokill> PAB use -j9
[14:27] <sudokill> recommended to use 1 more
[14:28] <PAB> sudokill: thx
[14:29] <sudokill> you can use -j100 if u like
[14:30] <Terabyte> how do i find out my lan ip (192.168.1.?
[14:30] <sudokill> ifconfig
[14:30] <Terabyte> ifconfig didn't look much like that number, it was 10,0.2.15
[14:30] <Terabyte> it's in a virtual machine
[14:30] <sudokill> ah ok
[14:30] <dianna> can someone help me to find a svp password on my w500
[14:31] <wols> dianna: svp password?
[14:31] <sudokill> Terabyte, idk much about VM but maybe u need to use that command on the host
[14:31] <wols> Terabyte: that's nortmal for VBox NAT setting
[14:31] <coz_> hey all
[14:31] <wols> dianna: do you mean the thinkpad supervisor password?
[14:31] <petsounds> hi coz_
[14:31] <dianna> yes
[14:31] <wols> dianna: not possible
[14:31] <coz_> petsounds,  hey guy
[14:32] <wols> dianna: only posssible with soldering and a new chip
[14:32] <dianna> is there any proffesional to do it
[14:32] <dianna> i will pay
[14:32] <Terabyte> wols but i have 2 vm's and they both have the same IP, how will i talk to one of them>
[14:33] <iceroot> Terabyte: you cant have the same ip more then once in the same network
[14:34] <cesc39> hey guys I know is off-topic but in #xchat nobody is talking... how do I reply to someone using his nickname... without having to type it? I'm using xchat irc client.
[14:34] <sudokill> cesc39, press tab after typing first few letters
[14:34] <wols> dianna: yes there are. lenovo will do it too if you can prove it's your thinkpad
[14:34] <wols> dianna: but that is not a ubuntu related topic
[14:34] <iceroot> cesc39: write the first characters of the name then hit tab
[14:34] <iceroot> cesc39: also working on the shell
[14:34] <wols> Terabyte: don't use NAT networking then
[14:34] <cesc39> sudokill, thanks
[14:34] <cesc39> works!
[14:34] <dianna> ok thanks
[14:35] <cesc39> iceroot, thanks
[14:35] <Terabyte> i don't follow what i have to do to be able to get these two vms to talk to each other
[14:35] <GamePlay3r> hello
[14:35] <GamePlay3r> just finished install ubuntu 11.04
[14:36] <GamePlay3r> do people genrally prefer unity over gnome3
[14:36] <Ganymede> I'm having trouble with using gnome-screensaver to lock my session after 6 minutes of inactivity. I see gnome-screensaver in "ps aux" and I believe it's configured to lock my screen after 6 minutes of inactivity but it just appears to do nothing. My session is unlocked after six minutes of inactivity. I'm using openbox-session as my desktop.
[14:47] <technicolor> Hello?
[14:48] <max__> hi
[14:49] <technicolor> :)
[14:49] <Durga> ahoihoi useres
[14:49] <max__> Anyone know any good video playing software that can play videos at slower or faster speeds without distorting the audio
[14:49] <technicolor> i lost my taskbar :S, i dunno how to put it back? :S
[14:49] <max__> lol
[14:49] <max__> been there
[14:49] <technicolor> please help :(
[14:49] <max__> do you have the top taskbar
[14:49] <technicolor> nope
[14:49] <coz_> max__,   vlc should be able to
[14:49] <Durga> i got a question may i can ask you here
[14:49] <max__> so you do not have any bars at the top or bottom
[14:50] <technicolor> nope,
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  just hit t he + or -  keys on the keypad
[14:50] <max__> coz_: thanks, i am going to try that
[14:50] <Durga> ubuntu crashes when i play movies or streams after a time
[14:50] <Durga> and it also crashes when i play music
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  open synaptic  search for vlc and install all of the vlc packages
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  also make sure you have all of the codecs installed
[14:50] <Durga> its may because of the audio drivers
[14:51] <technicolor> the last time i did was uninstall compiz, and the next time i start the pc, the taskbar and unity is gone :S
[14:51] <Terabyte> i have ubuntu server with auto updates enabled... when will it update?
[14:51] <max__> technicolor: im trying to remember one sec
[14:51] <Durga> doono im pretty new in ubuntu
[14:51] <Durga> ill take a look
[14:52] <technicolor> thank you, max__ :)
[14:52] <max__> technicolor: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lost-your-kde-taskbar-and-how-to-recover-it-486803/
[14:53] <MadHaTTer666> technicolor rainbow
[14:53] <technicolor> ty max__
[14:53] <technicolor> lol MadHaTTer666
[14:53] <max__> technicolor: did it work?
[14:53] <Durga> max did you know about the crash problem while playing sound?
[14:53] <MadHaTTer666> :D
[14:53] <max__> Durga: no
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:54] <Durga> where can i find a crash log?
[14:54] <Durga> to post it somewhere
[14:54] <MadHaTTer666> event viewer XD
[14:54] <max__> Durga: not sure
[14:54] <Durga> /var/log/?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:55] <max__> i got lucky with tech's question, not really an expert here
[14:55] <Durga> oic
[14:55] <technicolor> max__: have to restart first :S
[14:55] <max__> technicolor: ok good that you got that far, i didn't have the option when i right clicked
[14:55] <Durga> ubuntu is nice but its not useable when it crashes all the time when i play a movie or listen to music
[14:56] <tuxx_> hey guys..
[14:56] <tuxx_> why does ubuntu 11 only initialize my eth0 after i log in to gnome
[14:56] <tuxx_> i dnot even want gnome.. i just want a console
[14:56] <tuxx_> i have to manually run dhclient eth0 from console to get my interface up and running
[14:56] <tuxx_> the file /etc/init.d/networking has been removed too
[14:57] <max__> coz_: this works perfect thanks
[14:57] <coz_> max__,   excellent :)
[14:57] <Durga> ill take a look at the german channel have a nice day
[14:58] <tuxx_> i added auto eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:58] <kermit_frog> what should i use for file sharing from windows to ubuntu?
[14:58] <tuxx_> doesnt seem to work though
[14:59] <tuxx_> ok i fixed it..
[14:59] <tuxx_> thanks for nothing you dumb pricks
[14:59] <lulu> hi
[14:59] <technicolor> max__: it didnt work :(
[15:00] <lulu> does anyone know why i drop to busybox every time i log in? i recently installed ubuntu natty... and i have to wait for ages and type "exit" to be able to get the login screen
[15:03] <Haw> Hey everyone, I downloaded a game, named auteria. And I didn't get it installed (I downloaded a archiv (.tar file) and used the archiemanager now I have a lot of files ut no .exe file. And this isn'ta sourcecode so I can't use the installation for source code (I think)
[15:04] <kermit_frog> does it have a readme?
[15:05] <Haw> yeah, but I can only read some libraries I have to install. But I don't know where I can fin this librarys.
[15:05] <kermit_frog> where did you download from?
[15:06] <Haw>   - Install the requiered libaries
[15:06] <Haw> http://www.auteria.com/index.php?c=download
[15:06] <Haw> I never installed a game without wine or the Software-Center.
[15:07] <kermit_frog> let me look at the package... 1 sec
[15:07] <Haw> thx a lot
[15:08] <kermit_frog> you have it extracted right?
[15:09] <kermit_frog> Haw, extract archive into a folder on your desktop
[15:09] <Haw> desktop? Okay.
[15:09] <kermit_frog> or wherever you want it
[15:09] <Haw> I'll copy the extracted folder.
[15:10] <Haw> hm fine than it's done ^^
[15:10] <kermit_frog> ok now open terminal
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Haw, have you read the readme in the extracted folder
[15:10] <kermit_frog> yes
[15:10] <kermit_frog> he said he did
[15:11] <Rigin> hello
[15:11] <Haw> yes I readed it. but I didn't know where I get these "neccessary" libraries. or what a librarie is. terminal is open.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Haw, you will need an app called build-essential as well
[15:11] <kermit_frog> copy and paste cd Desktop
[15:11] <kermit_frog> and then cd to whatever you named your folder
[15:12] <Rigin> how can we install applications on ubuntu
[15:12] <oCean> !software | Rigin
[15:12] <Osmodivs> Rigin,  Google it
[15:12] <oCean> Osmodivs: never helpful
[15:13] <Osmodivs> XD
[15:13] <bt> !find lubuntu-rc.xml
[15:13] <Osmodivs> Just kiddin'
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Osmodivs, we're not here to tell ppl to google
[15:13] <Osmodivs> BluesKaj, I said "I am just kiddin'"
[15:13] <kermit_frog> Haw: you cd'd to the folder on your desktop?
[15:14] <Haw> Yes I am in the folder.
[15:14] <Rigin> dont know
[15:14] <Haw> Where the readme is.
[15:14] <Rigin> i am new to ubuntu
[15:14] <oCean> Rigin: what is your questioin?
[15:14] <kermit_frog> ok now type: ./auteria
[15:14] <oCean> *question
[15:14] <Osmodivs> ¡question
[15:14] <Osmodivs> |question
[15:14] <kermit_frog> *in terminal
[15:14] <Osmodivs> !question
[15:15] <Osmodivs> there you go
[15:15] <Haw> Oh so easy?
[15:15] <kermit_frog> did it run?
[15:15] <Osmodivs> Rigin,  Use the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:15] <Haw> Thanks a lot it works ^^
[15:16] <Haw> And I had thought I have to install something.
[15:16] <kermit_frog> and just follow the same steps to run it again
[15:17] <Rigin> ok
[15:17] <omry> j #eclipsre
[15:17] <omry> j #eclipse
[15:18] <Rigin> how can we install templates in computer
[15:18] <Rigin> pls help
[15:19] <Rigin>  how can we install templates in computer
[15:19] <Rigin>  pls help
[15:20] <kermit_frog> which templates?
[15:20] <Rigin> templates showing in  desktop
[15:21] <Rigin> templates showing in  desktop
[15:21] <Rigin> while left click
[15:21] <edbian> I think you mean right click
[15:21] <Rigin> ya
[15:21] <gimpy1381> I'm trying to set up a media center but when I connect it to my TV it won't go above 640x480 4:3.  The nvidia settings manager won't let me change it to something higher, why?
[15:22] <Rigin> in create document
[15:22] <kermit_frog> Rigin: 1 second
[15:22] <Rigin> ok
[15:24] <Rigin> i will wait 4 u
[15:25] <kermit_frog> Rigin, I dont know if this is the only way, but go to your home folder, then the templates folder, then right click, create new document, make it, save it.
[15:25] <dassouki> i installed ubuntu on a virtualbox, but it started gnome instead of unity by default
[15:25] <dassouki> how can I change that ?
[15:25] <Ganymede> dassouki, If you're on a Windows host, install VBox guest additions to Ubuntu and enable 3D acceleration in machine settings.
[15:25] <Rigin> i will wait 4 u
[15:26] <dassouki> Ganymede: i'm on a mac host and i just enabled 3d acceleration; hoever, after installing ubuntu
[15:26] <kermit_frog> Rigin: see above for directions ;)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, what kind of connection from your pc/laptop to the tv , and what type of tv ?
[15:28] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: New TV, was working with the old one.  Old one was connected with composite video, running VGA right now on the new TV.
[15:28] <Rigin> i will try now
[15:29] <Haw> okay bye thx a lot again.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> new tv has vga inputs ?  then it could be restricting the resolution , what kind of new tv?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, ^
[15:30] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: Toshiba 46SL417U...seems silly to limit the res since VGA can go much higher.
[15:31] <Rigin> it is succesfull
[15:31] <Rigin> thank a lot kermit_frog
[15:32] <kermit_frog> not a problem
[15:32] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, vga inputs on tv sets are not meant for hidef resolution , the hdmi and component inputs are though
[15:33] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: VGA gets much higher even on cheap monitors, why not a TV?  I know, HDMI comes next week with a new video card.
[15:36] <Rigin> how a tv tuner card can be configured in ubuntu
[15:36] <Rigin> pls help
[15:36] <Dice-Man> is it installed ?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, yeah, I use nvidia pci card with dvi>hdmi cable connected to a panasonic 42" plasma , which I'm chatting on right now\
[15:36] <Rigin> no
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Rigin, which tv tuner card?
[15:37] <Rigin> tech-com
[15:38] <Dice-Man> Rigin: what's the reference ?
[15:38] <lulu> hi everyone, does anyone know why i drop to busybox every time i log in? i recently installed ubuntu natty... and i have to wait for ages and type "exit" to be able to get the login screen
[15:38] <Rigin> i did'nt get u
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Rigin, usb stick type ?
[15:39] <Rigin> ya
[15:39] <Rigin> usb stick
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Rigin, we nedd to know the model number etc
[15:40] <yeats> lulu: try booting into recovery mode and see if there's a log message where it hangs
[15:40] <Rigin> te-9y-T6
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !pm | Rigin
[15:41] <Rigin> ok
[15:42] <Rigin> sorry
[15:42] <bt> Rigin, have you tried http://www.mythtv.org/?
[15:43] <Rigin> no
[15:43] <Rigin> i will try it now
[15:43] <bt> Rigin, my usb tuner worked "out-of-the-box" with it
[15:45] <Rigin> i have started downloading mythtv
[15:46] <Rigin> i feel ubuntu is very slow
[15:46] <Rigin> while using internet and hearing music
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | Rigin
[15:47] <Rigin> what is the soluutions for making system faster
[15:47] <Rigin> what
[15:47] <Rigin> i didn't get u
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !info tvtime | Rigin
[15:48] <Rigin> i didn't get u BluesKaj
[15:48] <Rigin> ok
[15:48] <Rigin>  i got it
[15:49] <halvors> Ubuntu 11.04 is the has the must buggy GUI i've ever seen :(
[15:49] <BluesKaj> mythtv is  good too , but tvtime is easier to setup
[15:49] <iceroot> halvors: feel free to use another gui
[15:50] <yeats> !classic | halvors
[15:50] <acidix> hello
[15:50] <halvors> I know.
[15:50] <Rigin> hello
[15:50] <halvors> But why is Unity so buggy?
[15:50] <yeats> !ot | halvors
[15:50] <acidix> is there someone from romania ?
[15:51] <Rigin> no
[15:51] <acidix> :((
[15:51] <MadHaTTer666> wtf night ppl
[15:51] <halvors> This is a support question.
[15:51] <rypervenche> !ro | acidix
[15:51] <iceroot> !ro | acidix
[15:51] <halvors> How fix the buggy Unity?
[15:51] <oCean> MadHaTTer666: control your language
[15:51] <halvors> It hungs every hour.
[15:51] <iceroot> halvors: create bugs
[15:51] <MadHaTTer666> language?
[15:51] <gimpy1381> halvors: Use gnome instead?
[15:51] <iceroot> halvors: thats the best way to solve problems you face
[15:52] <halvors> So why is Unity default and not gnome?
[15:52] <iceroot> halvors: because canocial want it that way
[15:52] <oCean> halvors: this is not the channel for general discussion
[15:52] <Rigin> stop all unnessecary comments
[15:53] <Rigin> talk about about technical things only
[15:53] <MadHaTTer666> what is language?
[15:53] <Rigin> stop all unnessecary comment
[15:53] <Neohasreturned> Hi could someone tell me the best program to backup my programs?
[15:54] <oCean> MadHaTTer666: acronyms such as wtf are not welcome in this channel
[15:54] <iceroot> !best | Neohasreturned
[15:54] <iceroot> Neohasreturned: also why you need to backup your programs? maybe you mean your settings and personal data?
[15:55] <Neohasreturned> iceroot, Well in mint there was a backup program which used to create a list so I could restore programs easily but there isn't one in Ubuntu
[15:55] <Davidius> Anyone here know alot about package management? Im getting an error wjhen trying to update
[15:55] <iceroot> !clone | Neohasreturned
[15:55] <Davidius> something about unfinished packages
[15:55] <iceroot> !clone | Davidius
[15:55] <iceroot> Davidius: ah sorry wrong nick
[15:55] <Davidius> LOL no worries
[15:56] <iceroot> Davidius: you want to upgrade your packages? what is the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[15:57] <Davidius> I dont want to do a distro upgrade just update my packages
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: thats what i posted
[15:57] <Davidius> I have update manager which I think comes from Mint
[15:57] <nijabo> V
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: dist-upgrade is NOT upgrading the distribution to a higher level, just installing sec-updates
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: you are using mint?
[15:57] <Davidius> nope using a variant of Ubuntu PinguyOS
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: then this is not the correct channel
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: this is ubuntu-support only
[15:58] <Davidius> I thought the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would bering me from maverick to narwahl
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: no
[15:58] <Davidius> yes and after a week of being in the right room they directed me here
[15:58] <Davidius> besides its the same OS
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: if you are not using ubuntu this is not the correct place
[15:59] <Davidius> it just comes packaged with different programs
[15:59] <iceroot> Davidius: as i said, this is not the correct channel
[15:59] <Davidius> Is there anyone bar iceroot here who is willing to help and not be such a distro snob
[16:00] <cmaxwell> what was your question?
[16:00] <oCean> Davidius: no, it is not supported here
[16:00] <Davidius> its Ubuntu plus extra shit with nothing changed but just packages added on the ISO
[16:00] <oCean> Davidius: and control your language in this channel
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: drop the language
[16:00] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: the rule here is we do not support non-official distros
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: ubuntu plus is a non-official distro
[16:00] <Davidius> oCean if you think you have cause to kick me for using the word snob then do so but dont threaten me
[16:02] <Milossh> ikonia, may I ask why that username?
[16:02] <Milossh> that is an archaic name for women from where I'm from
[16:03] <ikonia> Milossh: not really on topic for this channel, and quite a long/boaring story
[16:03] <Milossh> ok
[16:10] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[16:11] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:11] <seachcoz_> is coz_ here
[16:11] <Ganymede> Does anyone know a good screenlocker for openbox-session that will lock the screen after six minutes of inactivity? xscreensaver's lock is horrendously ugly and gnome-screensaver's lock looks good but I can't get it to actually...lock after six minutes of inactivity.
[16:12] <dr_willis> why does looks actually matter? :)
[16:12] <Melvis> you could try xflock4 from xfce
[16:13] <dr_willis> i thought you selexted the screensaver to use, then it would lock.   or are you saying the unlock dialog is ugly?
[16:13] <petsounds> Jake7, out of the box in my 1000HE.
[16:14] <Jurgentje> Hi... I've downloaded Ubuntu Studio (here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/ ) twice already, ... and I had 2 different MD5hash results (both faulty). Anyone a clue how I can get the download right?
[16:14] <Jurgentje> (currently trying the torrent)
[16:14] <dr_willis> Jurgentje,  try the torrents
[16:14] <jayson_> my mouse only works when i put it over the top menu, i can't do anything with it when i try to us it in a program anyone with any idea's
[16:14] <sjs54724> ?
[16:14] <ZykoticK9> Jurgentje, torrent "should" solve your problem ;)
[16:14] <dr_willis> actually you could start the torrent, stop it.. copy the iso to the location. restart and check the torrent.. and it may fix whatever part is the problem
[16:15] <Jake7> petsounds: What's the difference between a straight 1000 and an HE ?
[16:15] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:15] <Jurgentje> dr_willis, you mean that a torrent performs some kind of blockwise crc-check?
[16:15] <dr_willis> Jurgentje,  yes. ive done that trick in the past.
[16:16] <petsounds> Jake7, no idea but if you're unsure use lucid.
[16:16] <Jurgentje> wow! that's a cool trick!
[16:16] <Jurgentje> it actually works! (never though it would) :)
[16:16] <dr_willis> i would double check the md5 sum
[16:17] <Jurgentje> yeah, that was my surprise... I actually had my ISO file in the same folder where torrent works... and it was ready in 2 seconds. Then I realized that I didn't remove it. It apparently just fixed it :)
[16:18] <dr_willis> ive seen some torrent clients be stupid and move/remove the  iso first.. then start over.. :)  thats why i said start it.. stop it.. copy it over.
[16:20] <Jake7> petsounds: Thanks Wikipedia! The 1000HE runs an Intel Atom 280 processor with  160 GB HDD. I guess I'll go with the 10.04 LTS for now.
[16:20] <Jake7> petsounds: Thanks!
[16:20] <Rigin> ya surely
[16:20] <dr_willis> Wikipedia is great <Citation needed>
[16:20] <cmaxwell> lol
[16:21] <qwebirc43584> hello. please can someone explain how-to install firefox5(five) in ubuntu 10.04 the official way?
[16:21] <Rigin> wait
[16:21] <stephanmg> can i have installed ruby and ruby1.9.1 parallel on one system?
[16:21] <dr_willis> qwebirc43584,  the webupd8 blog site has a guide i belive on that.
[16:21] <iceroot> !ff5 | qwebirc43584
[16:21] <qwebirc43584> searching "firefox5" in software center doesnt find anything : (
[16:21] <dr_willis> because you need to enable  the proper PPA qwebirc43584
[16:22] <iceroot> qwebirc43584: sudo add-apt-repository pad.lv/ppa/mozillateam/firefox-stable/
[16:22] <qwebirc43584> so if i add the "http://pad.lv/ppa/mozillateam/firefox-stable/" it will be found in siftware center?
[16:22] <iceroot> qwebirc43584: correct
[16:23] <Rigin> i am sorry
[16:23] <qwebirc43584> software
[16:23] <qwebirc43584> i will try to add it then
[16:24] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/firefox-5-lands-in-firefox-stable-ppa.html
[16:24] <dr_willis> gives the exact commands to cut/paste.. 3 total :)
[16:24] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:25] <sobczyk> hello is there an easy way to setup a custop ubuntu apt repository?
[16:25] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:25] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:25] <seachcoz_> !!
[16:25] <jingo255> hi. trying to install ubuntu with cd but just get a blank purple screen
[16:25] <dr_willis> jingo255,  and whats your video chipset?
[16:25] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:25] <seachcoz_> !!
[16:25] <jingo255> some garbage one, old laptop
[16:25] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  you need to state an actual problem.
[16:25] <stephanmg> i guess i can i see. thx :)
[16:26] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | jingo255
[16:26] <seachcoz_> ok well
[16:26] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:26] <jingo255> thanks
[16:27] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:27] <dr_willis> and tell the channel the ACTUAL problem...
[16:28] <leafpile> I'm currently on an LTS release.  If I were to install Natty, could I resume sticking with LTS releases after the next one is released?
[16:28] <mechanist> hello everyone
[16:28] <smmsadrnezh> How to change boot page in ubuntu 10.04?
[16:29] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  clarify what you mean. the term 'boot page' is a little vague
[16:29] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound
[16:30] <BluesKaj> leafpile, you would have to upgrade twicew , whereas if you stick with the presnt LTS , then next april you upgrade directly to the the 12.04 LTS
[16:30] <jingo255> im alittle confused, is nomodeset an option I choose in the BIOS?
[16:30] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound, please help
[16:30] <dr_willis> jingo255,  its a kernel boot option. that URL given shows it in the screenshots I belive
[16:30] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, not in bios no - it's a kernel parameter actually
[16:30] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm talking about the page show during ubuntu boot up
[16:31] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  you mean the ubuntu ....... loading screen?
[16:31] <leafpile> BluesKaj: but if i install natty, i would only have to stick with 12.04 LTS (once I upgrade to it) in order to be back on the "LTS path", correct?
[16:31] <jingo255> I'm not very computer savvy, what do I do with a kernal parameter?
[16:31] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: yes
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> smmsadrnezh, Plymouth is what that "boot" screen is called
[16:31] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: exactly
[16:31] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  if so thats 'plymouth' there are some plymouth themes.. i just disable plymouth. i find it pointless
[16:32] <dr_willis> jingo255,  read that url given in the !nomodeset factoid.. it shows you screehshots and how to enable it.
[16:32] <mechanist> I have a partition with this extension on fdisk: W95 Ext'd (LBA). With what filesystem I have to mount it?
[16:32] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, read the instructions.  SPACE bar at the key/keyboard 1st screen, F6 at menu - then select NOMODESET
[16:32] <jingo255> do you have to be in linux? cause I can't even get it to start
[16:32] <spettro> list
[16:32] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  yes. we know that... do we have to play 20 questions to hear what the actual problem you are having is?
[16:32] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:32] <wols> mechanist: that is not partition to mount but an extended partition that holds other partitions
[16:32] <seachcoz_> ok
[16:32] <jingo255> I get a purple screen, then it goes to a black screen with blinking cursor
[16:33] <seachcoz_> well my problem is
[16:33] <jingo255> I dont get to select anything
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: thank you again
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, sorry the guy/keyboard screen
[16:33] <seachcoz_> IF I MOVE A WINDOW to the edge of the desktop
[16:33] <seachcoz_> and i want to maximize it
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: can I another question?
[16:33] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm searching for plymouth themes. THNX and I'm sorry because of my english
[16:33] <jingo255> the guy/keyboard screen acts like its frozen, unresponsive
[16:33] <seachcoz_> it maximizes on another virtual desktop
[16:33] <wols> mechanist: never ask if you can ask. never
[16:33] <Arth> hi guys
[16:33] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  theres a few in the default repos for  kubuntu and lubuntu i think. but as i said. i dont use them. i think they are pointless
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: ok
[16:34] <BluesKaj> leafpile, well, you're on the LTS path as you call it , right now . I assume you're on 10.04
[16:34] <Arth> i got a problem with  LibreOffice Base. Is tehre anybody who can use this application?
[16:34]  * ZykoticK9 think a factoid/wiki page needs to be created to address the issue seachcoz_ (an others) are having with the maximizing other screen thing
[16:34] <wols> mechanist: well? ask it...
[16:34] <harvi_svk> smmsadrnezh: you can find some plymouth themes in "synaptic package manager" type "plymouth" into search box
[16:34] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm redistributing from ubuntu and I shoud change it
[16:34] <mechanist> wols: I have solved, thanks to you, the partitions matter under windows, now I am under ubuntu, and I want to create a new partition with the empty space I still have in the disk, but I don't know how fdisk works
[16:35] <seachcoz_> i hope you can help me
[16:35] <wols> mechanist: use cfdisk or partman or gparted (GUI)
[16:35] <mechanist> wols: gparted doesn't see my disk, so I've thought to create it with fdisk, this is fdisk output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633090/
[16:35] <seachcoz_> i hope you can help me#
[16:36] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  i belive thats a known bug. theres proberly a thread on it at the forums. and on askubuntu.com
[16:36] <wols> mechanist: cfdisk /dev/sda
[16:36] <mechanist> wols: oky, now I try
[16:36] <seachcoz_> really
[16:36] <seachcoz_> hehe
[16:37] <jingo255> can I edit the cd files so that it boots the install without a gui?
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, Alternate is a text/ncurses installer
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> !alternate | jingo255
[16:37] <mechanist> wols: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[16:38] <davis> Anyone here?
[16:38] <wols> mechanist: sorry. "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"  and gparted with "gksudo" "gparted"
[16:38] <BluesKaj> jingo255, do mean headless / no monitor ...like a server ?
[16:38] <wols> mechanist: how big is that disk?
[16:38] <jingo255> no
[16:38] <mechanist> wols: already done with sudo
[16:38] <jingo255> I think my graphics card is interferring with install
[16:38] <mechanist> wols: 500 teras
[16:38] <mechanist> pardon
[16:38] <mechanist> 500 gigas
[16:38] <Bravo> hi I installed ubuntu 11.04 and windows are crappy, disappearing and keep white traces when I move them, where is problem? can it be because I dont have grafic card?
[16:39] <Abhijit> Guest88585, just ask
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, on the first purble screen of the install do you see a stick man with a keyboard?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> jingo255, then ZykoticK9 adcice will work , alternate install is probly your best bet
[16:39] <BluesKaj> advice
[16:39] <jingo255> yeah
[16:39] <jingo255> but it doesn't do anything when i press keys
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, press SPACEBAR when you see that
[16:40] <jingo255> ok I can try
[16:40]  * ZykoticK9 hope it really is SPACEBAR you need to press...
[16:40] <seachcoz_> sure
[16:41] <BluesKaj> I've never encountered that with the live cd , ZykoticK9 and i have a 6 yr old pc that needs the alternate
[16:41] <BajK> kubuntu doesnt release any pre-release kdes anymore? :(
[16:42] <Abhijit> BajK, #kubuntu
[16:42] <BajK> jaja
[16:42] <Mandrew> !ubuntu
[16:42] <BreakBeat> How do I go about saving a picture from a website for use as a background?  In Firefox, I cant find a ' save as ' option....
[16:43] <kratos> ola
[16:43] <kratos> saludos
[16:43] <Chheap> Is there a way to get ubuntu hotkeys ( ctrl + alt +t for terminal and ctrl shift alt + arrow  key to move windows in virtual desktops) to work in xubuntu?
[16:43] <pooltable> help download KDE 4.7 and look at it in a VBOX thanks
[16:44] <wols> BreakBeat: right click on the picture
[16:44] <mechanist> help! why cfdisk doesn't see my disk?? FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[16:44] <seachcoz_> more and more
[16:44] <Bravo> so can I use ubuntu without graphic card?
[16:44] <wols> mechanist: does fdisk /dev/sda say the say?
[16:44] <BreakBeat> @wols, I have, and it's not able to ' save ' or ' save as '  I'm not sure why it wont let me.
[16:44] <wols> *say the same
[16:45] <Bravo> cgdae
[16:45] <mechanist> wols: yes
[16:45] <wols> mechanist: where and how did you create your extended partition?
[16:46] <wols> Bravo: yes you can.
[16:46] <mechanist> I guess I've created it in linux... I don't remember precisely
[16:46] <wols> mechanist: what is in those 3 big ntfs partitions?
[16:47] <mechanist> wols: a virus messed up my partition table, and since that moment, gparted didn't see anymore my disk, while fdisk see it without problems.
[16:47] <mechanist> wols: all my personal datas and years of works.
[16:47] <solayagim> mechanist, what kind of virus?
[16:48] <mechanist> solayagim: I don't remember, I remember just to having got it with IE in some adult site
[16:48] <wols> mechanist: then make a backup
[16:48] <Frestorms> is it a bad idea to add my user to www-data
[16:48] <wols> Frestorms: no
[16:49] <Frestorms> wols, by default it's not added, how come?
[16:49] <mechanist> wols: can't do it, I didn't have any external disk, and the data are too many. In facts the partition I wanted to create now was just for backup
[16:49] <th0r> mechanist: a backup on the same hard drive as the data is not a real good idea
[16:49] <mechanist> th0r: indeed
[16:50] <solayagim> obviously
[16:50] <solayagim> bad idea
[16:50] <mechanist> th0r: but better than nothing
[16:50] <glenn_> hi
[16:50] <solayagim> mechanist, there are many ways to backup your data so how don't you find a way
[16:50] <pablo_> hi
[16:50] <mechanist> th0r: when I format windows, I'm able to store there all my datas that were in C
[16:51] <glenn_> how can i say that a pdf always must open with foxit reader
[16:51] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound, please help
[16:51] <mechanist> solayagim: In facts now I'm thinking about creating the partition with the windows installation.... if I recall correct there is an utility for partitioning
[16:51] <cmaxwell> what do you guys recommend for file sharing  from windows to ubuntu?
[16:52] <Abhijit> !samba | cmaxwell
[16:52] <bhavesh> glenn_: right click on your app, Open with > Other app >> select a app and check the checkbox below which says remember this for ...
[16:52] <cmaxwell> thank you
[16:52] <dr_willis> cmaxwell,  for just some quick file transfers. winscp on windows and ssh on linux . is proberly the easyiest thing to setup
[16:52] <mechanist> ok I'll start the windows intallation
[16:52] <mechanist> see ya later guys
[16:54] <bhavesh> wow windows 7 says my .gz file is only 125Kb whereas its actually 122Mb
[16:54] <Cradam> lol
[16:54] <glenn_> bhavesh, did you mean the file that i whan't to open
[16:55] <solayagim> debian 6.0.2 has been released btw
[16:55] <bhavesh> glenn_ yes
[16:55] <bhavesh> glenn_ it would probably always open that kind of file with your selected application
[16:56] <Chheap> Is there a way to open terminal with  ctrl+ alt + t in xubuntu
[16:56] <solayagim> yes Chheap there is
[16:56] <Chheap> Just installed 11.04 xubuntu and it did work in ubuntu
[16:56] <solayagim> under system > preferences
[16:57] <solayagim> there is keyboard shortcuts
[16:57] <solayagim> you can set any shortcuts in that option
[16:57] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks that is what i'm looking for. But how can i remove it when the file open with the wrong app
[16:57] <Chheap> actually there is no such thing in system
[16:58] <solayagim> Chheap, how is the graphics in xfce 4.8?
[16:58] <Chheap> only thing remote is settings manager wich has keyboard settings, but i cant add any new shortcuts
[16:58] <solayagim> glenn_ right click on the file and select open with sub menu
[16:58] <Benkinooby> i don't understand what I/O is. there is a i/o-grapher in conky, but i can not imagine what it is. i thought it might me disk i/o but it isnt.
[16:59] <Chheap> solayagim: fine, i gues. running on notebook though
[16:59] <ampletime> g'day
[17:00] <glenn_> solayagim, i whant to remove i for always so that i can select the wright program
[17:00] <bhavesh> glenn_: do the same thing and select the correct app with which you want to open it
[17:00] <solayagim> glenn_, right click on the any file, select the program you wish under open with submenu
[17:00] <solayagim> it can apply on any file types
[17:01] <glenn_> bhavesh, but than have the file will open with 2 app not ?
[17:01] <solayagim> if you see wrong program then remove it or add second program for one file type
[17:01] <bhavesh> glenn_ no
[17:01] <bhavesh> glenn_ : it will just open with the app which you select last time
[17:01] <solayagim> glenn_, please try it before then ask your question
[17:02] <Chheap> Ah now i managed to add the shortcut but how i add shortcut for moving windows inside virtual desktop, ctrl alt + left or right switches desktop but i want to move the window im using with ctrl shift alt and arrow key
[17:02] <frankcox757> Hi everyone - I am having trouble with Java on FireFox . I am unable to activate download links etc.
[17:02] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks man that is helping an not so as solayagim dos
[17:02] <frankcox757> Running LinuxMint Natty 64bit on dell 530-dual core with 2 gigs ram
[17:02] <frankcox757> New Mint is very fast-would appreciate any assistsnce
[17:02] <LOkilL0> suck me xd
[17:02] <dr_willis> frankcox757,  they have their own support channels
[17:02] <oCean> frankcox757: mint is not supported here
[17:02] <dr_willis> !mint | frankcox757
[17:03] <glenn_> i'm new to linux ubuntu i work 10 months with linux but not dayly
[17:03] <solayagim> frankcox757, did you installed java properly?
[17:04] <giggr> Linux
[17:04] <solayagim> is awesome :)
[17:04] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks a man great help
[17:06] <patronymics> Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College: 100% Mossad did 9/11  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg
[17:07] <solayagim> what a boring day
[17:07] <frankcox757> There is no linux-mint-help now as .  spotchat does not work-If you would then please I am having the exact same problem with Ubuntu 11.04 , I gave up on it and installed Mint because it is supposed to work out of the box. In Ubuntu natty i seem unable to get rid of Iced Tea permanently. I have 6 0r seven Ubuntu installs and save Lubuntu on my tablet Pc Java is a mess on all.
[17:07] <bhavesh> in docky bar if 2 applications of same type are open they are shown under same icon, how could they be set to show differently?
[17:08] <dr_willis> enavble the partners repo and isntall sun java.. works fine for me.
[17:08] <cmaxwell> where can i change when my computer sleeps?
[17:08] <oCean> frankcox757: mint is offtopic here. Official mint support is at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[17:09] <pareidol1a> Has anyone tried to install 10.04 to an eSata drive? I am trying to, it's driving me nuts. Thanks!
[17:09] <Walex> cmaxwell: System->Preferences-Power Management
[17:09] <cmaxwell> thank you
[17:09] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  i have on external usb hds - you just jhave to pay attention to where the grub installer installs to
[17:10] <frankcox757> I have done that a dozen times -after I do it says to use apt-get remove on some files and iced tea is still there.Mint has sun java preconfigured, could it be my machine won't run ubuntu correctly?
[17:10] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: That's the thing, I made sure it was the correct drive, but still at boot Grub throws me into rescue with the error "file not found"
[17:10] <dr_willis> frankcox757,  you can have both installed at the same time. The 'alternatives'  feature of the os defines which one is the default.  You dont need to remove icedtea.
[17:11] <oCean> frankcox757: stop the mint discussion
[17:11] <solayagim> :)
[17:11] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  it could be the order of the drives are changeing if you boot from the external drive.
[17:11] <solayagim> so say we all
[17:11] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  ive seen that happen befor. but ive never used an external sata. only external usb.
[17:12] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: Yeah. I installed with internalHDD+NetBootinUsbStick+eSataHDD, now it's just internalHDD+eSataHDD
[17:12] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: But doens't Grub work with UUIDs and stuff?
[17:12] <frankcox757> I am taslking about Ubuntu now,
[17:12] <frankcox757> )Cean pleae pay attention, think before you speak .
[17:12] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  that ma be an issue.  - its supposed to use uuid. but i nioticed on this install my fstab was using /dev/sdXX entries for some reason.
[17:13] <pareidol1a> Grub2's configuration is REALLY difficult for someone used to classic, like me :'(
[17:13] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  you could set up a spare flash drive and install grub2 to that as a 'rescue' grub also.  or as a test try unplugging tghe internal hd.
[17:14] <dr_willis> some times you just have to break down and read the grub docs.. i did it for lilo, grub, and syslinux and now grub2...
[17:14] <dr_willis> ive had less issues with grub2... but it can be harder to trouble shoot.
[17:15] <seachcoz_> dr_willis sure that is a bug
[17:15] <dr_willis> I have like 6 external hd;s on this box. :) grub can get real real confused.
[17:15] <aguitel> dr_willis, can i use command dd tu make booteable pendrive with ubuntu image iso?
[17:15] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: They way I understand it, first a default root device is set by variable assignment "set root='(/dev/sdd,msdos3)'" then the setting is overwritten with a search command "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root XXX-XXX-XXX..." right?
[17:16] <seachcoz_> dr_willis sure that is a bug
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  not with an ubuntu iso
[17:16] <bt> hi. my hardware power button (asus eee 1005p) doesn't work in 11.04. xev doesn't produce a keycode for it, only this http://paste.ubuntu.com/633112/. any way to enable it?
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  some other disrtos can be done that way
[17:16] <aguitel> dr_willis, only unetbootin or usb creator ?
[17:16] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  assume people on irc have the attention span of a goldfish... I havent a clue what you are refering to.
[17:16] <arshadhusain> hi all\
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  or other tools from the pendrivelinux web site
[17:16] <seachcoz_> dr_willis_ the window maximizing
[17:17] <arshadhusain> anyone here use 10.10?
[17:17] <aguitel> dr_willis, ok
[17:17] <seachcoz_> dr_willis_ and the moving on another virtual desktops
[17:17] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  ive seen others mention the issue.
[17:17] <seachcoz_> cool
[17:17] <seachcoz_> ok
[17:17] <dr_willis> you are thinking its a feature?
[17:17] <seachcoz_> yes
[17:18] <seachcoz_> because it was always so, that if i moved windows left or right they maximized then
[17:18] <dr_willis> I dont use unity. so  cant confirm or deny the behiavor.
[17:18] <arshadhusain> does anyone have problems with battery life??
[17:18] <seachcoz_> and now, because ubuntu, ubuntu has got 2 desktops vertical and 2 desktops horizontal its down and up too
[17:18] <seachcoz_> okay dr_willis what does you use
[17:18] <dr_willis> im using openbox+docky right now.
[17:18] <rampage73> any one solve the internet issue with ubuntu 11.04 yet? i have tried google, disabled ipv6 went into firefox about:config and disabled ipv6 even this chat took 3 minutes to load and i am on a 50/50 internet connection which has been tested and works any help would be appreciated
[17:19] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: unfortunately i tried to fix that but then i modified one settings in ccsm and then nothing worked again
[17:19] <arshadhusain> rampage73.. what kind of modem and router do u have??
[17:19] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: and then i tried to install kubuntu-desktop. but unity is still distroyed
[17:19] <seachcoz_> d
[17:20] <seachcoz_> hehe
[17:20] <rampage73> arshadhusain, uh my modem is a wireless bridge and it is the router also but i have 3 other computers on my network a mac and 2 windows pcs over wifi that pull 35 mbps down and 40 up and this pc is hardlined to the router and cannot run the test it times out
[17:22] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  unity --reset  , unity --reset-icons       normally kick unity in the head.
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: normally i would like to use unity or gnome 2 but this is, as i already said, distroyed, so i have to use kde, xfce, lxde, fluxbox or i have to format
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ah thanks
[17:22] <bhavesh> winecfg is a GUI? where can I open it?
[17:22] <dr_willis> thers some other command to reset the ccsm settings
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ok
[17:22] <seachcoz_> thanks
[17:22] <dr_willis> bhavesh,  type its name in a terminal
[17:22] <seachcoz_> i will try
[17:23] <bhavesh> k
[17:23] <bhavesh> Oh its the same GUI which I always use... wine configuration thingy
[17:24] <dr_willis> yes it is. :)
[17:25] <thauriswulfa> HELP: when ever I am starting pulse audio volume control it says connection terminated and quits ........
[17:27] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  you could have just made a new user.. and their unity settings whould of been fine :)
[17:27] <cawnc4> Hey, I am looking to further secure my data, I know you can encrypt the home folder, but how could i go about encrypting my whole drive? I searched Ubuntuforums to no avail
[17:28] <Osmodivs> Hello. Ok, so this program asks me for a LibBoost1.42 library, but in other program made me move some LibBoost1.43 libs to /usr/lib, so if I install LibBoost1.42 via Synaptic, is it gonna override the highest version?
[17:28] <dr_willis> cawnc4,  perhaps check the askubuntu.com site?
[17:28] <Osmodivs> I get this message when trying to compile: checking for boostlib >= 1.37... configure: error: We could not detect the boost libraries (version 1.37 or higher). If you have a staged boost library (still not installed) please specify $BOOST_ROOT in your environment and do not give a PATH to --with-boost option.  If you are sure you have boost installed, then check your version number looking in <boost/version.hpp>. See http://randspringer.de/boost for mor
[17:28] <Osmodivs> e documentation.
[17:28] <sudokill> cawnc4, i know you cant with truecrypt on linux there are probbaly a lot of other tools that can, but is there much point of encrypting root as well?
[17:29] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  yoiu did install the proper -dev packages as well?
[17:29] <Osmodivs> Like I said, I copied LibBoost1.43 files to /usr/lib manually
[17:29] <sudokill> most people dont have special info there
[17:29] <bhavesh> I want to add Sound preferences shortcut , I went to System > KeyBoard shortcuts > Add, what should be in Command textbox?
[17:29] <bhavesh> what command would open sound preferences box?
[17:29] <cawnc4> sudokill I would like to keep all of my info out of the hands of people that could take it, not just my documents but also what programs I have installed
[17:30] <cawnc4> etc
[17:31] <bhavesh> I guess its gnome-volume-control right?
[17:31] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, I do not know if it came with dev files, It was a compiled program, so it asked me -in order to function- to move libboost files to /usr/lib the program works fine, but I want to install another program that needs boost files, but for some reason, it will not detect the ones I have there in /usr/lib
[17:31] <dr_willis> bhavesh,  try it and see?
[17:31] <Cradam> how do i stop grub being in quiet mode?
[17:31] <bhavesh> YAY, yes it is
[17:32] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  if you are compiling somthing - you will need the lib boost dev packages as well.. that may or may not break the other app.  that other app should perahps look elsewhere for its libs.
[17:32] <bhavesh> I really have lots of things to fix on my ubuntu, the gnome-panel ... some items disappear, my ubuntu freezes sometimes for few seconds (only cursor is movable)
[17:32] <dr_willis> !info libboost
[17:33] <sudokill> Cradam, i think you can hold shift as it boots, or set the timeout to something other than 0 in grub.cfg
[17:33] <sudokill> or menu.lst
[17:33] <Cradam> shift is just stupid when you want a different OS]
[17:33] <Osmodivs> !libboost
[17:33] <Cradam> its grub.cfg
[17:33] <Cradam> whereever it is
[17:33] <sudokill> Cradam, set the timer on it then so it shows for whatever time u want 5 seconds etc
[17:33] <dr_willis> if youa re dual booting - its suppose to set its self to show.. no thide
[17:34] <dr_willis> !grub2
[17:34] <technicolor> ty all. have a good day/night. bye :)
[17:34] <dr_willis> its a setting in /etc/default/grub
[17:35] <sudokill> Cradam, shift isnt that bad lol i use the f buttons to choose what drive i want to boot off
[17:35] <Cradam> sudokill, thats bonkers
[17:35] <sudokill> @_@
[17:35] <dr_willis> i got my laptop set the samwe way.. grub2 dosent need to be on my windows drive at all
[17:36] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, So, You don't know if libboost1.42 is gonna replace 1.43? I want to know if different versions of libs can work at the same time
[17:36] <sw0rdfish> hey guys is there a command to check the size of a directory?
[17:36] <bhavesh> why does this happen to my power button? http://i.imgur.com/Q2he3.png
[17:36] <Cradam> hmm the setting is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true lol
[17:36] <osse> sw0rdfish, 'du -s dirname'
[17:36] <weokoh> hi everyone, i know this is probably off topic as it should belong to #sanitarium  or #ucrazybro  but I would like to ask some questions about ubuntu (perhaps this involves Linux in general)  and web browsing, I'm well aware i should leave the windows mindset and worry less since Linux is more secure and less prone to "you click you get owned" stuff but recently i have started to supply a web browsing service (internet point wannabe) to people that aren't t
[17:36] <weokoh> hat aware of scam sites viruses and so, even though its hard to get a virus on Linux could anyone suggest me some ways to make it harder for any potential threat coming from the web (please note i say web as web pages, not usb keys and all that) while using firefox? many thanks in advance to anyone who could save my lil brain from this paranoia lol
[17:37] <sudokill> change from true to false?
[17:37] <osse> sw0rdfish, you might want to add '-h' to that as well
[17:37] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  libs normally have a libname-#.## version thats a link to  the libname-#.so   so if that one app is is doing it right - it shoudl either look for the specific version of the lib it needs.. or use the newer version.
[17:37] <oCean> !ufw | weokoh
[17:38] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  you can have differnt versions installed just fine.. if the apps use them correctly
[17:38] <sudokill> weokoh, look at apparmor
[17:38] <weokoh> oCean: forgive my ignorance, would ufw make web surfing with firefox safer?
[17:38] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, In that case, I will install libboost1.42
[17:38] <weokoh> sudokill: did it, im enforcing the firefox default profile, could you give me some informations about it please? what it protects what no? on various forums i read the "default one" is not enough
[17:39] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  if you want to run that app that needs it.. well :) i guess you will. heh
[17:39] <sudokill> default one is ok
[17:39] <dodino_> hi all
[17:39] <weokoh> sudokill: would you suggest anything else?
[17:39] <oCean> weokoh: firefox is not ubuntu-specific. Ask an ubuntu specific question
[17:39] <sudokill> weokoh, youd need to look at apparmor threads, you can restirct the program how you like e.g only let it write to your downloads folder etc etc
[17:39] <weokoh> oCean: in fact im asking how to harden it on ubuntu, is it still off topic?
[17:39] <dr_willis> worse case - firefox trashes the users home.. not the whole system.
[17:40] <sudokill> weokoh, what r u actually afraid of? itshould be fine even without apaprmor
[17:40] <dodino_> i have installed an ubuntu alternative 11.04 32bit on a USB stick, with all partition crypted (excluding /boot of course)
[17:40] <dr_willis> but ive not heard of any issues with ff.
[17:40] <sudokill> use the usual noscript
[17:40] <hiexpo> hola
[17:40] <dodino_> but, i can't execute the usb stick on MACOSX, only in PC
[17:40] <weokoh> noscript + apparmor + limited user account + no js at all (just images)  but ye im still kinda scared lol
[17:40] <Nisstyre> yes
[17:40] <weokoh> sudokill: do you know what would be the worst thing that may happen using that setup?
[17:41] <dr_willis> weokoh,  sounds liek 1/2 the web may not work for your setup
[17:41] <sudokill> weokoh, if apparmor is set up good then i doubt much could happen at all
[17:41] <dodino_> anyone can help me for resolve this problem? i want a full ecnrypted ubuntu in USB stick that can boot in all platform (PCs and MAC)
[17:41] <sudokill> if ur really that paranoid then you could harden yur whole system, use apparmor and grsecurity whatever its overkill for desktop
[17:41] <dr_willis> !info bastille
[17:41] <bt> hi. my hardware power button (asus eee 1005p) doesn't work in 11.04. xev doesn't produce a keycode for it, only this http://paste.ubuntu.com/633112/. any way to enable it?
[17:42] <weokoh> sudokill: what you mean by setup good? i only enforced the ubuntu profile
[17:42] <sudokill> weokoh, imo your being too paranoid, the fact you cant get viruses on linux is a major security bonus over windows as it is
[17:42] <weokoh> dr_willis: bastille sounds interesting, sadly last time i tried it (years ago) i trashed the whole system lol, might give it a try again perpahs more carefully :P
[17:43] <weokoh> sudokill: your opinion is shared by me too, im way too paranoid lol
[17:43] <sudokill> with hardened kernels your gona have to put in work, to get a usable system
[17:43] <dr_willis> weokoh,  trashing the system,.. was its major feature. :) ive not even heard about it in years.
[17:43] <weokoh> dr_willis: heard of what?
[17:43] <sudokill> bastille... yea
[17:43] <sudokill> i never used that
[17:43] <dr_willis> weokoh,  theres the old 'make the root system read only' tricks also. -
[17:43] <sudokill> grsecurity is the easiest imo
[17:43] <dr_willis> bastille did a lot of neat tricks. but you just dont hear it mentioned much these days.
[17:44] <dr_willis> I was suprised it was in the repos.
[17:44] <weokoh> sudokill: you think i would have major advantages using grsecurity? can you briefly (i dont want to flood the channel with our convo) list some of its advantages?
[17:44] <weokoh> dr_willis: i couldnt login anymore it would say admin  restricted the access rofl
[17:44] <sudokill> weokoh, it depends, what do you do? just browse the web? grsecurity has a lot of features... randomization etc
[17:44] <sudokill> too many to list
[17:45] <weokoh> sudokill: just browse the web, no servers if thats the question
[17:45] <weokoh> well that pc does just that
[17:45] <weokoh> and IM probably (i never seen anyone using empathy there tho lol)
[17:45] <sudokill> im into security too and wouldnt say im paranoid, i just like the though of having a hard system. ur best best is to use ubuntus apparmor bult in
[17:45] <sudokill> its th easiest
[17:46] <weokoh> sudokill: what you mean "im into security"
[17:46] <sudokill> i like to make my comp secure
[17:46] <sudokill> lol
[17:46] <sudokill> i am no expert or anything !
[17:46] <weokoh> sudokill: yeah that was a dumb question lol, i meant to ask, you do anything "more" than what you suggested?
[17:47] <sudokill> there are some guides, read the ubuntu security thread, read the gentoo security handbook, and use apparmor
[17:47] <weokoh> sudokill: i dumped windows in 2003 because of antiviruses, didnt want to think something so crappy was running with admin privileges LOL
[17:47] <sudokill> :)
[17:48] <weokoh> sudokill  dr_willis: thank you very much for all the info, much much much appreciated :D
[17:48] <weokoh> sudokill  dr_willis: next is calling the sanitarium and lock me in
[17:48] <sudokill> just have a read around youll find loads on google
[17:48] <sudokill> its too broad subject for irc
[17:49] <weokoh> most of the hardening guides just said enable the firewall and install noscript O.o
[17:49] <weokoh> or install ids which isnt really what i need i hope
[17:49] <sudokill> sysctl settings, password settings etc
[17:51] <weokoh> sudokill: being a lil more paranoid than what reality offers (yet i never seen a linux user getting harmed by a website, and many claim that they go on adult ones LOL) would you say that my setup is fine for now? i may take some time to grub documentation but they ll keep using internet and go on malware filled (i suppose only for windows but the js is a cross platform threat) sites
[17:51] <weokoh> ops he/she left
[17:51] <weokoh> ok well
[17:51] <weokoh> thank you everyone
[17:51] <weokoh> have a nice day
[17:58] <serard> re
[17:58] <serard> dites, on peut installer gnome3 tout en gardant gnome 2 ?
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> is it possible to copy files from a nfs mount and retain the usernames
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> instead of getting the uid's
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> i don't want the numbers, i want the names
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> because im moving from a local user server to a server that uses ldap
[18:04] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: The numbers are what is actually stored on the files.  The names are looked up (from /etc/passwd) by software.  This (I'm sure) does not mean you can't use ldap
[18:05] <TheMatrix3000_> i prolly have to do a chown on the new server correct
[18:05] <TheMatrix3000_> because the user number id's dont match
[18:05] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: Yeah probably?  Now we're getting into things I don't know much about.  (ldap)
[18:06] <skegeek> I'm having problems using WinSCP, trying to upload a file to user's home directory and getting permission denied?
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> ls
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> ac wrong window
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> yea, i am sure thats it
[18:06] <eisvogel__x> 1
[18:07] <TheMatrix3000_> im going to try it
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> yep
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> it worked
[18:08] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: yay
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> now on the normal server it is showing the uid number
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> and on the server that is using ldap now has his name
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> i wish i knew how to make a script for this
[18:09] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: the 'normal' server (in this case) is an LDAP client.
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> no
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> the normal is using file authentication
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> the new server is using ldap authentication
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> same usernames just different uid numbers
[18:10] <skegeek> any help for the file transfer problem?
[18:10] <Nobgul-bnc> skegeek, 1 second ill help u just need a coffee
[18:11] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: You're confusing me (and maybe you).  Don't call a machine a 'server' always call it a 'webserver' or 'fileserver' or whatever.  Cause it being a 'server' can get confusing.  The machine that is using ldap authentication is probably a 'server' in some capacity.  In respect to ldap it is a client.  (unless it is the ldap server?)
[18:11] <edbian> skegeek: What's the problem?
[18:11] <LibertyBeta> Any one able to give me a little help with a toshiba Tecra?
[18:11] <skegeek> I try to upload to my user home directory and get permission denied.
[18:12] <Nobgul-bnc> skegeek, are you using the root login or yours?
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> well, im using ltsp, so in all references it is a server
[18:12] <edbian> skegeek: What do you mean 'upload' ?
[18:12] <skegeek> my own user login.
[18:12] <wols> skegeek: upload how?
[18:12] <Quantum_Ion> What do I do with an old PCMCIM modem ?
[18:12] <Nobgul-bnc> winscp
[18:12] <skegeek> I connect via WinSCP
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> we have a ltsp server acting as a ldap client
[18:12] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: Ahhh :)
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> and an ltsp server not using ldap
[18:12] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: confusing! :)
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> we are moving from a ltsp server not using ldap to one using ldap
[18:13] <Nobgul-bnc> wols and edbian, if you want to help in ima go make another pot of coffee
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> i am copying the home directories from one to another
[18:13] <edbian> Nobgul-bnc: I wanna help but you're leaving!
[18:13] <coldpizza72i> ok so im still having trouble connecting to the computer whose ip i think changed, what do i do, its headless
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> and need to retain the user permissions
[18:13] <coldpizza72i> i dont have access to the router
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> panel
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap the subnet
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> whats the command
[18:14] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: to make a script just but #!/bin/bash at the top of a file, write the commands in the file, make it executable with chmod, and run it using ./fileName
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: do you know a service that box provides?
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap
[18:14] <edbian> wols: It provides DHCP
[18:14] <edbian> ?
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> wols: no flags?
[18:15] <wols> edbian: I doubt it does
[18:15] <UserX7> how to overcome GPG error when signatures not verified/public key not available?
[18:15] <edbian> wols: It's a router isn't it? :P
[18:15] <wols> UserX7: pastebin the output of your apt command
[18:15] <coldpizza72i> wols: there are no flags with the nmap?
[18:15] <wols> edbian: ask coldpizza72i but I doubt it
[18:15] <wols> coldpizza72i: there are
[18:16] <coldpizza72i> what should i use then
[18:16] <wols> you should use nmap, I just told you
[18:16] <coldpizza72i> but what flags should i use
[18:16] <edbian> wols: he wants to know what flags
[18:16] <UserX7> wols: http://pastebin.com/Mjx6h3KZ
[18:17] <wols> I cannot say since I don't know your network layout
[18:17] <edbian> coldpizza72i: nmap 192.168.1.0/24      (my guess at your network subnet cause that's very common for an in-home router)
[18:17] <coldpizza72i> wols: niether do i... im at school
[18:17] <wols> UserX7: the output. not just a tidbit
[18:17] <wols> coldpizza72i: you ahve access to that LAN the box is in?
[18:17] <edbian> coldpizza72i: If you're on the schools network (and have no router of your own) then my command is probably wrong
[18:18] <LibertyBeta> Hrm.... can't seem to get my pressure sensitivty to work on this toshiba tecra m4. Any one got any suggestions?
[18:18] <UserX7> wols: http://pastebin.com/DX8uyPiU
[18:18] <coldpizza72i> edbian: whats the 24 represent?
[18:18] <wols> coldpizza72i: you need to give us much more info if you want help
[18:19] <adac> Icanot change vpn password since save button is always disabled... any ideas?
[18:19] <edbian> coldpizza72i: The subnet size.  It says hold the 192.168.1.  part steady and change the last number (goes through all possibilities 0 - 255)
[18:19] <wols> UserX7: it wants to solve a captcha and needs cookies for that. I can't access it
[18:19] <wols> !paste
[18:20] <UserX7> wols: just refresh it
[18:20] <th0r> wols: edbian do I understand this correctly. coldpizza72i needs to find the address of a server on a school network...he doesn't have access to the server....and you guys are helping?
[18:20] <edbian> coldpizza72i: however, it is a guess.  and if you're on a school network it is most likely wrong
[18:20] <behroz> tutorial install scaner nessus ??
[18:21] <coldpizza72i> okay let me re explain
[18:21] <UserX7> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633139/ :-)
[18:21] <edbian> th0r: I was under the impression we were trying to find access to a home router.  Then he dumped this school network business on me
[18:21] <wols> th0r: not enough info to decide, yet. and if he has credentials to log in via ssh, then he obviously is entitled to no?
[18:21] <th0r> wols: if you say so
[18:21] <coldpizza72i> I have a desktop 3 feet away from me that is headless..... and i think the ip address changed which is why i cant connect from my laptop
[18:21] <edbian> coldpizza72i: Ohh! :)
[18:22] <bil21al> i have perform the code to req my nice but no mail came on my mail adress  ???i m reg or not??
[18:22] <edbian> coldpizza72i: It probably did change (dhcp)  What is the IP of the laptop ?
[18:22] <wols> UserX7: not an error per see. gpgl itself errors, but for apt it's maximally a warning, annoying but no biggie. if you want to get rid of it, add the ppa's key
[18:22] <JoeSniffy> hey
[18:22] <edbian> coldpizza72i: I do this all the time :)  not always successfully :(
[18:22] <wols> coldpizza72i: so are you in the same subnet as this desktop?
[18:22] <JoeSniffy> need some help with mounting my harddrive
[18:22] <behroz> tutorial install scanner nessus in ubuntu? :-(
[18:23] <io> !mount | JoeSniffy
[18:23] <wols> !info nessus
[18:23] <JoeSniffy> keep getting the error: unable to mount error 21
[18:23] <coldpizza72i> wols: im assuming not on the same subnet....my laptop is wireless connection acouple rooms down and my desktop is wired to my room
[18:23] <JoeSniffy> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:23] <wols> coldpizza72i: you must know the subnet and preferably a service this desktop provides, e.g. ssh
[18:23] <behroz> gnome
[18:24] <miceiken> Is there any way to undo a rm -rf?
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> wols: yes the desktop has ssh
[18:24] <wols> JoeSniffy: then pastebin the command and the full output you get
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> how do i know the subnet
[18:24] <behroz>  ubottu:: gnome
[18:24] <wols> coldpizza72i: do you know the old dhcp IP it had?
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> yes
[18:24] <wols> what is it?
[18:24] <io> !undelete | miceiken
[18:25] <coldpizza72i> wols: 70.60.100.121
[18:25] <miceiken> !ext3
[18:25] <elyawy> sound problem with ubuntu on mac - imac intel all versions of ubuntu
[18:25] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap 70.60.100.0/24  is a basic scan and should tell you which hosts are up
[18:26] <coldpizza72i> wols: it looks like that command is not making and progress
[18:26] <coldpizza72i> any*
[18:26] <JoeSniffy> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[18:26] <JoeSniffy> then I go to the folder and nothing
[18:27] <coldpizza72i> nevermind its going
[18:27] <uploaded> hello, i have a native ipv6 connection and usenet works great in windows. for some reason yesterday the ipv6.google.com link worked in ubuntu and also pinging ipv6 ip-s. not it looks disabled but the terminal said it's enabled. i'm on lucid. any ideas? thanks
[18:27] <edbian> coldpizza72i: it take a bit
[18:27] <behroz> ubottu:: ubuntu 10.10 desktop environment gnome i'm tutorial install nessus  ?
[18:28] <Roman-17> Привет
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> whois Trigger__
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> oops
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> lmao
[18:28] <JoeSniffy> through the chaos does anyone know how to solve the error 21 code while attempting to mount
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hi
[18:29] <MrMichaelHill> any Ubuntu 64bit UT2004 gamers on here? :)
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im on the terminal and i want to repeat a command x number of times
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> what is the easiest way?
[18:29] <behroz> ubuntu 10.10 desktop environment gnome i'm tutorial install nessus  ?
[18:29] <wols> JoeSniffy: yes I do mind
[18:29] <foo__> hello all
[18:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: a script
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i tried repeat it said command not found
[18:30] <sw0rdfish> osse, thanks about du -sh btw
[18:30] <sw0rdfish> :)
[18:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ?
[18:30] <foo__> i want to install a old version of java "java 5 update 20 " but he issue is the file on the oracle site is .bin file is there any way i can get a version for ubuntu
[18:31] <BluesKaj> idrinkkkkkbeer, just use the up arrow key to retrive the pervious command
[18:31] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: use a script
[18:31] <BluesKaj> err previous
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i need it repeated 1000 times
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i can't press up arrow that much
[18:31] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: for I in {1..N}; do command_here; done (replace N with the number of times you want the command to run)
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> just a one line dd command
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> trism must be some error
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {I...N}; you mean?
[18:32] <coldpizza72i> 256 ip address 4 up
[18:32] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: no, only 2 dots, did you forget the do?
[18:32] <coldpizza72i> i just try the 4 then right
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok so the entire thing is
[18:33] <th0r> coldpizza72i: I have to ask...why would you put a 'headless server' on a dhcp broadband connection belonging to roadrunner?
[18:33] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: simple example; for I in {1..5}; do echo $I; done
[18:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> $: for I in {1..1000}; my command; done
[18:33] <coldpizza72i> th0r: what does roadrunner have to do with anything
[18:33] <ce_17> kepet kabeh
[18:33] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: you need the do, for I in {1..1000}; do something; done
[18:33] <th0r> coldpizza72i: they own the ip address in charlotte
[18:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> and is there a way to stop this from running if it is too slow
[18:34] <ce_17> hahahahhahahaa
[18:34] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: ctrl+c should stop it
[18:34] <coldpizza72i> th0r: why does it matter that it belongs to road runner though
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> does this for I in... work in ubuntu also?
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> on the terminal
[18:34] <sudoKILLALL> anyone
[18:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: It is the text of a script
[18:34] <sudoKILLALL> seen this error before?
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> what
[18:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: a... program
[18:35] <sudoKILLALL> while trying to mount ntfs systems?
[18:35] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im going to enter it on the terminal as root
[18:35] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:35] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: well don't do it as root unless you  need to do it as root
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> needs
[18:36] <adac> I cannot change vpn password since save button is always disabled... any ideas?
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> thanks for help!
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> all
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:  anyone
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> ?
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> I've tried fsck
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> I've tried ntfsfix
[18:38] <Cuchulainn> anyone how to go about fixing the fact that my keyboard driver at logon is different than once i'm logged into session?
[18:38] <WakeRider89> installed Ubuntu on win7 PC and it killed my wifi connectivity in both operating systems? any suggestions?
[18:39] <edbian> WakeRider89: Is there a wireless card appearing at all on either?
[18:40] <wols> WakeRider89: use rfkill to check?
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <FloodBot1> sudoKILLALL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <aar> Hi, does Ubuntu 10.04 support the use of any finger print scanner?
[18:42] <sudoKILLALL> Anyone ever seen this error before? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:42] <sudoKILLALL> how do you solve this error?
[18:42] <kingvillage> is it danger if i boot my netbook with ram less than 1 GB with generic pae kernel.
[18:43] <wols> kingvillage: no
[18:43] <edbian> kingvillage: I don't know.  Why do you want to?  (probably not)
[18:43] <wols> sudoKILLALL: mount -t ntfs-3g....
[18:43] <kingvillage> @wols thank, @edbian I want to get my best performance...
[18:44] <edbian> kingvillage: the pae-kernel will do nothing for your system. The purpose of it is to allow the use of more than 3.2Gb of ram on 32 bit hardware
[18:44] <wols> kingvillage: then why use a PAE kernel?
[18:44] <WakeRider251> installed Ubuntu on win7 PC and it killed my wifi connectivity. any suggestions?
[18:44] <sudoKILLALL> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk and then cd /media/disk ls but nothing shows up
[18:44] <gasull> Hi.  I'm getting this error when I try to run Brain Workshop: http://dpaste.com/559403/  Any clues?
[18:45] <LjL-Webchat> test
[18:45] <kingvillage> can you help me?..I want to switch user like using GNOME but for icewindows, what command should I do?
[18:46] <sudoKILLALL> no luck with mount -t ntfs-3g
[18:50] <yeats> sudoKILLALL: did mount give you an error, or did it just come back to the prompt?
[18:50] <Gh0Sty2k> Hi folks, im very new to ubuntu and am trying to install an application but it says too many symbolic links, how can i correct this by erasing the symbolic links?
[18:50] <sudoKILLALL> yeats: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:51] <Abhijit> Gh0Sty2k, which application and how you are installing it?
[18:51] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: what is the program?  do you know why there are so many sym linkes
[18:51] <Gh0Sty2k> eset for linux, copied the install file to the desktop and tried to double click
[18:51] <Gh0Sty2k> came up with the error please install the following packages /usr/lib/gconv/utf-16.so
[18:51] <BluesKaj> sudoKILLALL, try this sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdaX /mnt ..sub X in sda for your partition
[18:52] <Gh0Sty2k> any ideas?
[18:52] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: go to a terminal and show us with "ls -l" in that directory the file
[18:52] <Gh0Sty2k> ok
[18:53] <sudoKILLALL> BluesKaj: nothing still
[18:53] <Gh0Sty2k> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2011-06-26 13:27 UTF-16.so -> /home/tahir/UTF-16.so
[18:53] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/usr/lib/gconv$
[18:53] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: do you use that disk in windows also?
[18:53] <sudoKILLALL> yes
[18:53] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: that is not a installation file
[18:53] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: try mounting it in wondows and make sure it cleanly unmounts then try again in linux
[18:54] <Billjuik> Hello?
[18:54] <Billjuik> :)
[18:54] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: seems like it was not cleanly unmounted and causing that exit 21
[18:54] <sudoKILLALL> IdleOne: I attempted that. I ran chkdsk in windows, and it came back clean
[18:54] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1352479.html
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~$ cd Desktop
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$ ls -l
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> total 37612
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> -rwxrwxrwx 1 tahir tahir 38511668 2011-06-26 13:12 eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$
[18:55] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: sudo  eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:56] <sudoKILLALL> IdleOne: I ran through all the steps in the last part of the forum... Chkdsk. Fsck. NTFSFix. Still the error occurs.
[18:56] <sudoKILLALL> Also GPARTED check
[18:56] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: not sure what else to tell you. maybe someone else here knows more
[18:57] <sudoKILLALL> may just try a clean install
[18:57] <sudoKILLALL> possible drivers problem
[18:57] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$ sudo eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:57] <Gh0Sty2k> sudo: eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux: command not found
[18:57] <wols> sudo ./eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux    my bad
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> sudo ./eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> sorry wrong place
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> lol
[18:58] <IdleOne> Error: Permission Denied.
[18:58] <wols> IdleOne: it's 0777 according to ls -l
[18:59] <corrytonapple> !gpg | ubott
[18:59] <IdleOne> wols: not in this channel it isn't :)
[18:59] <Gh0Sty2k> says Please install the following files or packages: /usr/lib/gconv/URF-16.so
[18:59] <corrytonapple> !gpgerr | ubott
[19:01] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: do you have a particular reason why you're installing this program?  there are other antivirus/security programs available in the repositories...
[19:01] <corrytonapple>  !thanks | ubott
[19:01] <Gh0Sty2k> I've used it before and like the product so thought i should be able to install it without being limited to the apps in the repos
[19:01] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: you don't need antivirus, really
[19:02] <Gh0Sty2k> I know, but I would still like to install it as its a learning curve also.
[19:02] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: at most you need AV if you want to check files for windows clients
[19:02] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: "should" is a tricky thing with computers ;-)
[19:02] <Gh0Sty2k> lol true
[19:02] <gasull> It seems my card driver is misconfigured: http://dpaste.com/559403/  I'm missing OpenGL support for my X server.  How can I fix it?
[19:03] <wols> gasull: run glxinfo |grep -i render
[19:03] <Gh0Sty2k> my problem is someone said the latest version does not contain the link to the package which is why i need to create a new symbolic link, when i tried it now = says too many symbolic links and i dont know how to delete them to start over
[19:03] <sarkis_> hey guys, anyone able to get inconsolata to look like osx on ubuntu?
[19:03] <sarkis_> seems they are much skinnier on ubuntu?
[19:03] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: why do you need a link? what for?
[19:04] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: you said you haven't installed it yet
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> let me get the link
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2733
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> thats what i followed
[19:05] <PeskyJ> find ./ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 -I xx mv xx/* .   ;  this is my attempt to move all files in subdirs to the current dir, but I get mv cannot stat 'dirname/*' no such file or directory for each dir - what am I doing wrong?
[19:05] <lulu> hi everyone, i have problems when i boot my laptop, it drops me to a busy box... any ideas?
[19:06] <sindile> can someone recommend a adsl2+ dualband N wireless router
[19:06] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: and you did get that dialogbox?
[19:06] <Gh0Sty2k> yup
[19:06] <gasull> wols: I don't have glxinfo and I can't install it :/  http://dpaste.com/559413/
[19:06] <webPragmatist> anyone familiar with csr creation?
[19:06] <Gh0Sty2k> thats also what i got when i did the sudo command you gave me
[19:06] <webPragmatist> i'm trying to create a csr from an existing key
[19:06] <gasull> wols: sorry, it was a typo
[19:06] <webPragmatist> sudo openssl req -new -keyout /etc/ssl/private/server.key  -out server.csr <<
[19:07] <webPragmatist> but it keeps overwriting the private key
[19:07] <bonhoffer> i have a bunch of files going from 1 to 4500 like s153.xml or hr2201.xml, i want to move all files < \w+(\d+)\.xml where (\d+) < 4400, anyone know how?
[19:07] <wols> gasull: yes :)
[19:07] <wols> gasull: so where on disk is that utf-16.so file?
[19:07] <bonhoffer> so i want to move all files with like xx4100.xml or xy1.xml, but not gg4800.xml
[19:08] <TEST_> hi
[19:08] <io> gasull: the package is 'mesa-utils' not 'msa-utils'
[19:08] <wols> bonhoffer: bash, python or perl script
[19:08] <TEST_> i need help
[19:08] <bonhoffer> wonder if i should use find with an exec
[19:08] <TEST_> i need help
[19:08] <io> !ask | TEST_
[19:08] <bonhoffer> wols: ok. i'll do a ruby script with a regex match
[19:08] <TEST_> i distroyed unity
[19:08] <webPragmatist> anyone?
[19:08] <io> gasull: oh you realised, sorry I was looking at the link
[19:08] <TEST_> because settings in ccsm
[19:08] <bonhoffer> just thought sed or the find command might be easiest
[19:08] <gasull> wols, io: http://dpaste.com/559424/
[19:09] <TEST_> i distroyed unity
[19:09] <TEST_> because settings in ccsm
[19:09] <TEST_> then i removed it
[19:09] <TEST_> and installed kde
[19:09] <FloodBot1> TEST_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Gh0Sty2k> so any ideas?
[19:09] <TEST_> how can i get unity back
[19:09] <wols> gasull: damn. what videocard do you have?
[19:09] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: first thing is to find the utf-16.so file on disk
[19:09] <TEST_> how can i get unity back
[19:09] <gasull> wols: not sure. How can I check?
[19:09] <TEST_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:10] <io> !info unity | TEST_
[19:10] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: are you running i386 of ubuntu? or amd64?
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> 1386
[19:10] <io> TEST_: simplest way is probably to purge and re-install that, if that's what you want to do
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> i386
[19:10] <wols> gasull: lspci |grep VGA
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> and cant find the file
[19:10] <wols> TEST_: create a new user and try to log in to X with that user first
[19:11] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: check /usr/lib32/gconv/UTF-16.so
[19:11] <dr_willis> TEST_,  the package manager tools do NOT touch settings in the users home directory. what you did was totally un needed
[19:11] <dr_willis> TEST_,   'unity --reset' and unity --reset-icons     should reset most things
[19:12] <TESTbe> Hi
[19:12] <TESTbe> i need YOUR HELP
[19:12] <gasull> wols: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> i only have lib64 not lib32
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> does that mean its a 64bit install?
[19:12] <wols> gasull: that one should work out of the box
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> as the eset is 32bit
[19:13] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: dpkg --print-architecture
[19:13] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html        <--  reset unity, and ccsm
[19:13] <wols> gasull: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hi
[19:13] <Gh0Sty2k> i386
[19:13] <TESTbe> can you help m,e
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im afraid that for I in {1...   did not work
[19:13] <aguitel> dr_willis, i am trying for the natty in this pc ,i know in other distros are bugs with the kernel and my video card ,is there way to install another kernel in natty ?
[19:13] <gasull> wols: I think an automatic update messed it up, since before Brain Workshop was working and also VLC with GLX
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> it said 'dd unknown'
[19:13] <dr_willis> aguitel,  ive never bothered with any kernels except the default ones.
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> is it really so difficult to get a simple command to repeat
[19:14] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: might help if you included details of what you were actually trying to do
[19:14] <wols> aguitel: there is always a way. not necessarily an easy one.
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok
[19:14] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  clarify the actual problem
[19:14] <TESTbe> i need helpß
[19:14] <TESTbe> can you help m,e
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i want to repeat this 1000 times
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62
[19:14] <aguitel> wols, this is my video card:2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[19:14] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: your opening bracket is already wrong you pasted here
[19:15] <TESTbe> i need help
[19:15] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  its pointless to zero a drive out 1000 times.
[19:15] <idrinkkkkkbeer> how many times is good
[19:15] <wols> aguitel: it will work fine with pretty much any kernel
[19:15] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  once is enough
[19:15] <TESTbe> i need help
[19:15] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  state the actual problem.
[19:15] <io> !ask | TESTbe
[19:15] <TESTbe> well
[19:15] <gasull> wols: http://pastebin.com/Lmd2keus
[19:15] <TESTbe> i installed MANY Desktop environments on my PC
[19:15] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: find /usr -name utf-16.so
[19:15] <TESTbe> KDE; GNOME;  unity XFCE LXDE everything
[19:16] <aguitel> wols, 2.6.32 work
[19:16] <TESTbe> now i stay with UNITY !!
[19:16] <aguitel> wols, 2.6.38 not
[19:16] <sudokill> reinstall
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> this is what i wrote:  for I in {1...1000}; dd......; done
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> where is the error with bracket?
[19:16] <wols> gasull: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:16] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/$ find /usr -name utf-16.20
[19:16] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/$
[19:16] <TESTbe> should i reinstall my pc ?? because lots of this environments
[19:16] <wols> aguitel: you are mistaken. dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[19:16] <sudokill> TESTbe, its quicker and easier to reinstall
[19:16] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  why bother?  selexct unity at the GDM login screen and it will use Unity
[19:16] <wols> gasull: why is there an nvidia glx installed?  "dpkg -l |grep nvidia"
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> wols
[19:17] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: I told you several times, you need the word 'do' following the semicolon in the for loop (also only 2 dots in the {1..1000} expansion)
[19:17] <sudokill> TESTbe, or do as dr_willis said if you dont mind a load of mess left behind
[19:17] <TESTbe> dr_willis: i removed all environments only the unity i did not remove
[19:17] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: but I agree with dr_willis, running the dd 1000 seems pointless
[19:17] <TESTbe> but maybe its rests on my pc
[19:17] <TESTbe> and he is slower
[19:17] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: you use a {  bracket which is wrong. but overwriting the same sector 1000 is moronic
[19:17] <TESTbe> UNDER windows it is
[19:18] <trism> wols: it is correct syntax, type: echo {1..5}; in bash
[19:18] <gasull> wols: I don't know: http://pastebin.com/GjR0yZDw
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i isntall many things it will beslower
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i isntall many things it will bes lower
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> so it should be:  for I in {1..100}; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62; done
[19:18] <DriverIssues> Can someone help me with issues with opengl
[19:18] <PeskyJ> find ./ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 -I xx mv "xx/*" .   ; This gives the same results :( (quoted path)
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> any error in that
[19:18] <Gh0Sty2k> ok ill use an antivirus from the repos, lol
[19:18] <bil21al> can any one tell me how can i set time zone on oaunchpad account????
[19:18] <TESTbe> under windows
[19:18] <gasull> wols: I meant I don't know why I have nvidia glx installed
[19:18] <Gh0Sty2k> easier..
[19:18] <DriverIssues> I can't get hardware acceleration to work
[19:18] <dr_willis> !puregnome | TESTbe
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i install many things it will be slower
[19:18] <sudokill> TESTbe, the amoutn of things you have installed wont affect the speed only the things that are in use will
[19:18] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  it wont really be slower..
[19:18] <TESTbe> is it under linux too
[19:18] <TESTbe> ah thanks
[19:18] <edbian> DriverIssues: What card do you have?  I can fiddle around with ATI cards
[19:18] <TESTbe> under windows it is
[19:18] <wols> gasull: what notebook is this? it is a notebook?
[19:18] <DriverIssues> edbian, 8300 GS
[19:18] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  under windows.. it depends...
[19:18] <TESTbe> only a few programs and windows will be very slow xD
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i dont understand the bracket problem, im only copying what you guys wrote before
[19:18] <gasull> wols: yes
[19:19] <DriverIssues> edbian, nvidia
[19:19] <aguitel> Wols ,http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420369/
[19:19] <gasull> wols: Lenovo 3000 V100
[19:19] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmm, what driver are you using now?
[19:19] <sudokill> TESTbe, in windows its easy to have a load of stuff autostart
[19:19] <sudokill> by itself
[19:19] <TESTbe> yes thats true
[19:19] <TESTbe> and the other thing is a problem with the window management
[19:19] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420369/
[19:19] <TESTbe> hope you will help me there too
[19:19] <sudokill> ?
[19:19] <dr_willis> !enter
[19:20] <sudokill> TESTbe, i dont understand what you mean
[19:20] <TESTbe> i have got unity with 2 VERTICAL and 2 HORIZONTAL desktops
[19:20] <wols> gasull: lenovo 3000 N series might have a geforce 7300 go,  V series ahve intel only. uninstall all those nvidia packages
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im confused
[19:20] <edbian> DriverIssues: I give you the 5 minute crash course.  There are two drivers, nouveau (open source) and nvidia (proprietary).  However there are like 7 or 8 different version of nvidia
[19:20] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I just installed the "nvidia glx 185" driver
[19:20] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  you may want to check ouit some of the bash tutorials. and work with a simpiler case.
[19:20] <vasundhar> I am faving font rendering issues with 2.6.38-10-generic #44-Ubuntu
[19:20] <TESTbe> but if a window is not in the center of the desktop 1
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> can someone just type it out  correctly
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i'll say thanks and be out of your hair
[19:20] <TESTbe> and i try to maximize it it changes to desktop 2
[19:20] <bil21al> can any body tell me how can i set time zone in launchpad account???
[19:20] <TESTbe> but if a window is not in the center of the desktop 1
[19:20] <edbian> DriverIssues: That's one of the proprietary ones cause it starts with 'nvidia'
[19:20] <TESTbe> and i try to maximize it it changes to desktop 2
[19:21] <wols> !info nvidia-glx
[19:21] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  i belive earlier. people mentioned  that is a bug...
[19:21] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I'm fine with proprietary ones, I just want them to work :s
[19:21] <TESTbe> okay
[19:21] <wols> aguitel: what distro are you running?
[19:21] <edbian> DriverIssues: Additionally, if you have more than one driver installed at a time the system will likely get confused about which to use
[19:21] <TESTbe> i do not think so
[19:21] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Ok, so, how do I fix that
[19:21] <edbian> DriverIssues: 11.04 right?
[19:21] <aguitel> wols, debian now ,in ubuntu are notrunning
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> and now someone is saying my brackets are wrong
[19:22] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Yes, but defaulted to GNOME because of no hardware acceleration
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> but im doing it exactly like u guys said i should
[19:22] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  paste exactgly the command you are using...
[19:22] <wols> aguitel: then come back when you run ubuntu again. we cannot help you when you run debian and show us debian output
[19:22] <edbian> DriverIssues: Here are all the nvidia driver packages.  Make sure only one at a time is installed on your system.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[19:22] <edbian> DriverIssues: using synaptic is probably easier
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> repeated 100 times, since every1 thinks 1000 is too much
[19:22] <aguitel> wols, i need to disable autologin in ubuntu (no x ) how do it ?
[19:23] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: more than once is too much
[19:23] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, what are you trying to do?
[19:23] <wols> aguitel: dunno
[19:23] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Um... can I use the ubuntu software center
[19:23] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Also, this is off a live disk, if that matters
[19:23] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im trying to do what that command does, delete a sector
[19:23] <edbian> DriverIssues: it won't list these packages
[19:23] <wols> sudokill: overwrite adobe flex DRM for photoshop
[19:23] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  and the EXACT command you were trying to do with the count and stuff was what?
[19:23] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  100 times is to much. Once is enough.
[19:23] <edbian> DriverIssues: that makes a big difference.  Have you installed Ubuntu at ll?
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Have I installed what at 11?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {1..100}; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62; done
[19:24] <edbian> DriverIssues: hahaah,  installed Ubuntu at all
[19:24] <edbian> ?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> is there any error in that, other than repeating too many times
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I have a dead disk, nothing to install on
[19:24] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: Why do you want to do that so much ?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> the world isnt going to end if i do it 100 times
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I suppose I could find an old 1gig usb to install on, if that works...
[19:24] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmmm, this is a liveCD ?
[19:25] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: looks correct
[19:25] <DriverIssues> edbian:  yes, this is a livecd
[19:25] <idrinkkkkkbeer> because ebian i need that sector uncecoverable
[19:25] <idrinkkkkkbeer> un-recoverable to forensics
[19:25] <edbian> DriverIssues: the USB stick is a better option.  When you install / remove packages on the live CD when you reboot all the changes are lost (cause they can't be written to the CD).  You can save the changes with a USB stick.
[19:25] <sudokill> lol
[19:25] <gasull> wols: I removed the packages.  Still same error
[19:25] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: it is when you run that command once. after that it is unrecoverable
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> modern techniques like elcotron and magentic micro's can uncover beyond one write
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: you are wrong
[19:26] <stowoda> where is wastebin located?
[19:26] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: There is a very small increase in security with each right.  1000 is overkill but you can do it if you want.
[19:26] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, who on earth have u got on ur ass?
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: they cannot since the time of GMR heads
[19:26] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  we had a debate on that in here the other day...  survay said.. not true..
[19:26] <edbian> dr_willis: really?
[19:26] <lullabong> hi, i need your help! when i boot my laptop it drops me to busybox... what can i do?
[19:26] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Well, is there a way to transfer to a usb drive my current running OS?
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: they could 23-30 years ago with RLL and MFM disks, but not today
[19:26] <dr_willis> edbian,  if i recall the discussion correctly... (well it was a bit of a fight..) :)
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {1..100
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> oops sorry
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> didnt mean write it again
[19:27] <edbian> DriverIssues: What's the difference between your liveCD and a new iso ?  (nothing?)  You can use the live CD to create a usb off the image that is the live CD.
[19:27] <DriverIssues> idrinkkkbeer:  I have a really good solution for you.  take out the drive.  Take off the cover.  place on stove.  Heat stove.  Melt disk.  Problem solved.
[19:27] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: put a drill through it
[19:27] <dr_willis> theres secure, theres paranoid.. then theres Tin-foil-hat paranoid....  100 times is tinfoil hat area..
[19:27] <sudokill> no, scure erase it, hammer it then burn it
[19:27] <wols> gasull: check if libgl1-mesa-glx is installed
[19:27] <sudokill> then cut it up into little pieces and bury them underground 10 miles apart from each other
[19:27] <dr_willis> Take the HD apart. the magnets really really work well for holding papers on the fridge.. and the disks make shiny mirrors!
[19:27] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Yep, but I have already made some changes, which I'm guessing now reside in RAM
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> does writing so many times to one sector 'damage' it physically?
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> wear and tear i mean
[19:28] <sudokill> yes
[19:28] <wols> gasull: and if it is. also you MUST restart X
[19:28] <DriverIssues> idrinkkkkkkbeeer:  Not enough to matter for a HDD.  For an SSD, yess
[19:28] <edbian> DriverIssues: they do, I cannot think of an easy way to get those onto a USB (although I'm sure it's possible).  It's probably not worth the effort.  What all have you done?
[19:28] <dr_willis> theres some crituical info in that one sector? :)
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i wonder how many times i could run that before the hdd dies
[19:28] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: for a SSD overwriting a single sector is futile anyways due to wear leveling algorithms
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hopefully a million times
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, with ssd secure erase can damage it if you do it like 1000 times
[19:29] <DriverIssues> edbian:  um... lets see....
[19:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: yeah, they get worn out but 1000 writes is so insignificant.  Additionally you're writing 0's when the system sees a 0 I bet it doesn't do the write.
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> yea i hate ssd's
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, with normal hdd they take a lot of wear and tear
[19:29] <gasull> wols: libgl1-mesa-glx is installed.  I should leave it and reboot, right?
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> probably i will run that with urandom before zero
[19:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: Have you used one?  They're fast!
[19:29] <wols> gasull: no you should restart X, not reboot
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, what r u so paranoid about? geez
[19:30] <DriverIssues> edbian:  the mp3 codecs... flash... java plugin... chromium....
[19:30] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: But what if you end up writing the original bit sequence by mistake!?!?!
[19:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> yea but i need my hdd encrypted and ssd's dont perform well with that
[19:30] <oCean> ok, let's drop the how-can-i-destroy-my-hdd discussion?
[19:30] <edbian> DriverIssues: Oh that is one command to redo ;)
[19:30] <dr_willis> 'need them encrypted' :)
[19:30] <aguitel> wols, i try to boot again with ubuntu
[19:30] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, ssds and encryption is pointless
[19:30] <edbian> DriverIssues: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-ugyly flashplugin-nonfree java chromium-browser
[19:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i know sudokill
[19:30] <dr_willis> i did find this neat answer to repeating a command X amounts of time...
[19:31] <DriverIssues> edbian:  what do I need to redo?
[19:31] <dr_willis> http://www.stefanoforenza.com/how-to-repeat-a-shell-command-n-times/
[19:31] <edbian> sudokill: why is ssd with encryption pointless?
[19:31] <DriverIssues> edbian:  oh to redo that, I need only 1 command
[19:31] <gasull> wols: OK, restarting
[19:31] <edbian> DriverIssues: yeah
[19:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> lol dr willis that is complicated
[19:31] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  no its not..
[19:32] <sudokill> edbian, well they perform he same as hdd with encryption (waste of ssd speed) and they can leake info due to the way they work
[19:32] <edbian> we should have used repeat
[19:32] <edbian> sudokill: mmm, interesting
[19:32] <sudokill> that imo is the only minus of ssd
[19:33] <edbian> I don't encrypt my partitions anyway
[19:33] <sudokill> i used to use truecrypt all the time for hdds
[19:33] <sudokill> for full disk
[19:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> now your a pgp fanboy?
[19:33] <sudokill> nah i dont encrypt now either
[19:33] <sudokill> encryption is becomming sort of a trend like vms
[19:33] <sudokill> lol
[19:34] <oCean> edbian: sudokill this is (no longer) ubuntu-specific. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> of course, since u can get like a 200k fine for downloading a torrent these days
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> better safe than sorry
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> without the hdd no evidence
[19:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: don't tell us you're doing illegal things
[19:34] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, depends where u live some laws can force u to reveal password
[19:34] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  I don't know if an ssd is going to slow down to hdd speeds, I daresay that's exagerrated
[19:34] <sudokill> it does, seen benchmarks
[19:35] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  What did they use?
[19:35] <whorush> hey, my buddy wants to buy a desktop with graphics integrated into the 880g chipset.  think he'll have trouble running two different resolution monitors in 11.04?
[19:35] <sudokill> truecrypt i think, and that is very fast
[19:35] <oCean> sudokill: enough
[19:35] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  Hm... interesting.
[19:35] <idrinkkkkkbeer> the only bad thing about tc is the forums
[19:35] <edbian> whorush: I think he'll have trouble running 2 monitors with onboard graphics at all on any os (is this a laptop?)
[19:36] <DriverIssues> so edbian:  I should go to a usb live disk before I even think about fixing drivers
[19:36] <wols> DriverIssues: you can always use a sandybridge CPU with AES-NI
[19:36] <trism> dr_willis: that is a pretty nifty solution, although you seem to lose access to the loop index, which can be useful sometimes. will have to remember it for later though, thanks
[19:36] <dr_willis> trism,  the comments also have a few neat tricks
[19:36] <whorush> edbian, it's a desktop, 880g chipset graphics and amd quad core
[19:36] <edbian> DriverIssues: Umm, I would recommend it.  Unless you wanna fix your drivers twice
[19:36] <DriverIssues> wols:  Oh, right, that's what matters.
[19:36] <edbian> whorush: Is 880g integrated?  or a separate card?
[19:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im out, thx for help
[19:36] <DriverIssues> edbian: No, on vista I ran two monitors on a crappy integrated card
[19:36] <wols> edbian: integrated. radeon
[19:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> if it doesnt work i'll back and angry
[19:36] <whorush> edbian, integrated into the chipset
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, i am in ubuntu wih no effects
[19:37] <DriverIssues> edbian:  880g is the name of a mobo, so it's intergrated
[19:37] <edbian> Thanks
[19:37] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmmm
[19:37] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  cut/paste the command in a script 1000 times.. and run the script
[19:37] <idrinkkkkkbeer> oh one last thing, if its working would i see the output 100 times or would it just be like a blinking cursor?
[19:37] <edbian> whorush: I think it is likely that it will NOT work but I can't say for sure
[19:37] <idrinkkkkkbeer> output is normally 512 bytes copies
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, what you want to know for may card?
[19:37] <wols> aguitel: dpkg -l |grep nvidia  and the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:37] <orwhatt> hi everyone, i need some help with synaptic (yup im a newbie :S) , i need some info about the "updates" tab in repositories, i see on the wiki that proposed and backport aare not (or better may not be) fully tested, now i seem to understand that only some people (mainly developers) can put stuff in the repos (please correct me if im wrong) does that mean that while they re not tested they re still somehow safe to install or that not tested means that some
[19:37] <orwhatt> random joe may put some nasty stuff in the repos?
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, ok
[19:38] <sudokill> orwhatt, its not likely bad stuff will be there
[19:38] <dr_willis> orwhatt,  they are not tested to be as stable as the normal stuff..
[19:38] <gasull> wols: it worked.  thank you :)
[19:38] <whorush> edbian, 880g is the name of the chipset.  they call the graphics something like integrated radeon 4250 or osmething.
[19:38] <DriverIssues> So I can use the very same iso that I used on the cd to put on a usb?
[19:38] <whorush> edbian, so you think there's a good chance it won't work, eh?
[19:38] <orwhatt> so that means they were put there by "trusted" (or at least well known) people?
[19:38] <wols> DriverIssues: yes
[19:38] <edbian> orwhatt: Things that are 'untested' means that not many users have used it to create bugs.  it is very unlikely that malicious software is in those repos.  Not anybody can submit a package to go in the repo but it is reviewed first (and open source of course)
[19:39] <IdleOne> orwhatt: it means that they are relatively safe to install but not tested yet, those packages may or may not break your system.
[19:39] <edbian> whorush: Yes, but that is not anything set in stone.  Does the machine even have two graphics ports?
[19:39] <whorush> anybody else think i'm gonna have problems running two different resolutoin monitors with amd graphics integrated into the chipset?
[19:39] <whorush> edbian, good question, i was wondering that myself :-)
[19:39] <DriverIssues> edbian and wols:  Crap.  Do I really need a 2 gig stick?  I only have a spare 1 gig
[19:39] <edbian> orwhatt: likely they are just bugging (and potentially very annoyingly buggy)  but it's very unlikely they're malicious
[19:39] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420383/
[19:39] <coldpizza72i> whats the price at now
[19:39] <LibertyBeta> Can some one help with with a tablet pc issue?
[19:39] <sudokill> DriverIssues, 2gb i think
[19:40] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420385/
[19:40] <edbian> DriverIssues: It will git on 1Gb
[19:40] <dr_willis> whorush,  ive done it with Nvidia.. but never ATI.
[19:40] <edbian> fit
[19:40] <wols> whorush: it will probably work generally but you still will probably get various problems :) provided the mobo has two vga-outs
[19:40] <orwhatt> do i have to expect that they may be as malicious as the normal ones? (being potentially the same person who packaged and tested them)
[19:40] <DriverIssues> whorush:  It'll be technically possible - I did it on vista - but I'm not sure if it's that easy in ubuntu
[19:40] <sudokill> orwhatt, what do u mean malicious?
[19:41] <edbian> orwhatt: There is such a low probability of malicious software in any ubuntu repo (not PPAs)
[19:41] <IdleOne> orwhatt: rarely do people spend months/years gaining the trust to get upload rights just so they can introduce malicious code
[19:41] <whorush> thanks!  what if i buy  a cheap video card to do it with two ports?  would you prefer amd or nvidia driver-wise?
[19:41] <QuakeZone> Hi, I am new to this Ubuntu Linux. I am haveing an issue with the live CD, I get an error message as follows - (initramfs) stdin I/O error - mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs.
[19:41] <orwhatt> sudokill: litterally malware, if you consider it as anything that may harm my privacy / security
[19:42] <edbian> orwhatt: Any malicious code would quickly be noticed and removed even if someone did gain access
[19:42] <orwhatt> IdleOne: that makes alot of sence :)
[19:42] <dr_willis> whorush,  i would reccomend NVIDIA over ati.
[19:42] <sudokill> orwhatt, no there wont be, and if there was it'd be removed very quickly and all over the web
[19:42] <dr_willis> whorush,  and Intel over ati.. but intel dosent make stand alone cards that i know of. :)
[19:42] <edbian> orwhatt: I'm gonna be the bold one.  There is no malicious software in the repos at all
[19:42] <sudokill> talked about* lol
[19:42] <wols> aguitel: most likely your xorg.conf is fubar
[19:42] <dr_willis> edbian,  theres some addictive games! does that  count? :)
[19:42] <orwhatt> edbian: bold statements are the ones that make me shut up, thank you very much :)
[19:42] <aguitel> wols, sorry ,what is fubar?
[19:42] <whorush> dr_willis, ati drivers are still that bad?  i heard they got a lot  better?
[19:43] <wols> !fubar
[19:43] <orwhatt> thank you very much to anyone that answered my question, much appreciated, im getting to love ubuntu there is so much documentation and people willing to help lol
[19:43] <DriverIssues> edbian:  What does it mean to git, and I got my dad to lend me his 1tb external drive.
[19:43] <edbian> dr_willis: :)
[19:43] <dr_willis> whorush,  better then what they used to be.. unless you get unlucky...
[19:43] <wols> aguitel: google it. it's probably against the language policy in here
[19:43] <edbian> DriverIssues: I meant fit
[19:43] <dr_willis> whorush,  they will ahve to get a lot lot lot lot better.. befor i would even try ati again.
[19:43] <sudokill> orwhatt, it can be confusing, a bit like the "there are no viruses for linux" there's always people who say "but there has been".... irl they dont exist
[19:43] <edbian> DriverIssues: I think 1Tb will be enough.  Just install it normall on that! :P
[19:43] <aguitel> wols, what you recommend
[19:43] <edbian> Hopefully dad doesn't mind a partition
[19:43] <whorush> alright, thanks then!
[19:43] <orwhatt> sudokill: 1 reason why i switched from os x lol
[19:43] <whorush> bye bye!
[19:43] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Lol, I know.  Also, I have one more issue...
[19:44] <wols> aguitel: basically for nvidia to load you need to load it explicitly via xorg.conf. your installation doesn't do that and hence it doesn't work
[19:44] <dr_willis> all the viruses for linux that ive seen.. were specific service exploits.. but i may have missed a few. :)
[19:44] <nit-wit> many rootkits run in multiple OS's
[19:44] <edbian> sudokill: orwhatt The only viruses are proof of concept (many rely on social engineering).  There has never been a virus in the wild.
[19:44] <edbian> DriverIssues: sure?
[19:44] <wols> aguitel: the question is now how did your get to this point?
[19:44] <sudokill> edbian, thats what im saying
[19:44] <wols> edbian: wrong
[19:44] <sudokill> in real life they dont exist
[19:44] <DriverIssues> edbian:  my processor, according to hardinfo, is only running at 1ghz
[19:44]  * edbian regrets starting a flame war
[19:44] <edbian> DriverIssues: That is slow.  What is it supposed to be?
[19:45] <wols> sudokill: there is linux malware out there, in the wild
[19:45] <edbian> wols: Can you be more specific?
[19:45] <DriverIssues> edbian:  2.6  I have a feeling pstates got screwed up somewhere
[19:45] <dr_willis> for my nvidia systems.. i dont need a xorg.conf with them using the nvidia drivers.. the xorg.conf just sets up twinview and a few other settings.
[19:45] <edbian> DriverIssues: Mmm, I don't know anything about that.
[19:45] <wols> DriverIssues: speedstep or amd cool'n'quiet. it's a good thing
[19:45] <sudokill> wols, you can create malware yourself e.g. create a script that rm -rfs / then tell someone to run it
[19:45] <aguitel> wols, i use archlinux and same ussue occours (same kernel and same driver )
[19:45] <DriverIssues> wols:  but even when at 100% load, it's stuck there
[19:45] <wols> sudokill: no there have been actual epidemics with linux malware, on the internet
[19:45] <sudokill> up to you if you want to look at what you install...
[19:45] <DriverIssues> wols:  this is also a desktop
[19:46] <edbian> wols: Can you be more specific ?
[19:46] <wols> DriverIssues: ALL cpus for 5-10 years have powersaving built in
[19:46] <edbian> wols: Are we talking about a virus here?  Or just malware?
[19:46] <sudokill> wols, there was some on gnomelook website but that was very very rare
[19:46] <edbian> sudokill: wols That required the user to install it!
[19:46] <staff_nowa> Hello how can test fail2ban. max attempts for mail 1, but i can check password for 20 times
[19:46] <orwhatt> one last question, what would you think about using 2.6.21 (ubuntu kernel dont remember the release) and the iptables version of its release as hardware router? would it be good even though its outdated?
[19:47] <sudokill> but.... the easiest way to tell is if someone actually complains that they got malware and proves it, thats a more real life scenario
[19:47] <wols> edbian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Linux_vulnerability  virus and worms mainly
[19:47] <wols> sudokill: I agree it is very very rare, but they DO exist
[19:48] <QuakeZone> Hi, I am haveing an issue with the live CD, I get an error message as follows - (initramfs) stdin I/O error - mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs.
[19:48] <sudokill> i hope u didnt mean vulnerability there...
[19:48] <wols> orwhatt: no it would be bad
[19:48] <edbian> wols: These are not 'in the wild' because they are not spreading from machine to machine like for exmaple stuxnet
[19:48] <DriverIssues> wols:  Yes, but they should turn off properly when i need more power
[19:48] <edbian> wols: They do exist.  I think we are agreeing
[19:48] <Pskol> b
[19:48] <orwhatt> wols: mind if i ask you why it would be bad?
[19:48] <wols> DriverIssues: yes they do. run a program that uses the CPU and you will see
[19:49] <edbian> just because they should be doesn't mean they are
[19:49] <wols> orwhatt: cause it's not made for a router at all and very outdated and by now pretty certainly prone to exploits
[19:49] <sudokill> ok i agree of course there has been some malicious stuff for linux, but saying they do exist sounds bad, especially if windows users hear that because its completely different
[19:49] <orwhatt> wols: my actual router uses 2.6.20 (although not ubuntu i386) do i have to worry? lol
[19:49] <edbian> DriverIssues: I suggest you install to the HDD and fix the problems you have there.  It's likely some will just go away and others will replace them.  It's a waste of time to fix issues that are on the live CD
[19:50] <ikonia> chaps, maybe the malware discussion would fit better in offtopic ?
[19:50] <DriverIssues> wols:  I'll try with phoronix.
[19:50] <sudokill> sorry
[19:50] <DriverIssues> edbian:  ok.
[19:50] <edbian> sudokill: that's why I say they exist as proof of concept
[19:50] <edbian> I'm done
[19:50] <edbian> sorry! :P
[19:50] <edbian> DriverIssues: :)
[19:50] <wols> orwhatt: no. cause the vendor of your router might (and should have) patched it properly. the ubuntu one is by now probably !EOL and not patched anymore. also ubuntu is a general purpose distro. router distros are differently made
[19:51] <orwhatt> wols: vendor is linksys and they have last patched it in march 2010, you still say i can sleep tight?
[19:51] <wols> orwhatt: basically, you can run ubuntu as a "hardware router", but if you have to ask about it, you really shouldn't do it
[19:51] <orwhatt> this is off topic sorry everyone
[19:52] <edbian> wols: I disagree
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: ask away
[19:52] <wols> orwhatt: I don't know how linksys makes their router but you can sleep better than with a ubuntu install from 2010 as a router imho
[19:52] <oscar> hi every one, why Ubuntu 10.10 system force pidgin "uninstallation"?
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: Just update your ubuntu router to a LTS or the newest release
[19:52] <orwhatt> edbian: i asked, i was asking if 2.6.21 would have been good for a hardware router, wols said no then i wondered if id be fine since my actual one uses 2.6.20
[19:52] <wols> edbian: ubuntu runs about 10 times as much as it should for a router. and hence it is a bad idea to use it as one
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: That's too old.
[19:52] <orwhatt> edbian: i dont have one yet :P was just trying to find out how good it would be
[19:53] <edbian> wols: I didn't say it's the best OS for a router.  If he wants to he should be allowed to ask about it.
[19:53] <orwhatt> edbian: my actual router's firmware or using ubuntu to build up one?
[19:53] <sudokill> orwhatt, cant you just use a normal router? i use an old wrt54g with tomato firmware does everything, and dont take up a load of power
[19:53] <orwhatt> sudokill: i have  a wag320n, no custom firmwares :S
[19:53] <edbian> orwhatt: The actual router firmware will be easier.  A real machine will give you more control and teach you something
[19:53] <sudokill> ah ok, routers are cheap though
[19:53] <trinikrono> oscar: you can still install pidgin manually
[19:54] <orwhatt> sudokill: sadly not here lol it costed like 150$
[19:54] <edbian> orwhatt: putting custom firmware on a router is cool too
[19:54] <sudokill> orwhatt, 3rd party firmware is good though, iptables etc
[19:54] <orwhatt> edbian: sorry im a lil lost now, did you say my actual router firmware (linksys updated last march 2010) is too old or using ubuntu 2.6.21 to build one would be old?
[19:54] <wols> orwhatt: what is the reason you want to use ubuntu for a router? just for routing alone, it can't be?
[19:54] <orwhatt> sudokill: i know its good but bootloader is locked
[19:55] <orwhatt> wols: just for routing yeah, thought i may have a better control of it if i wasnt bound to the manufacturer
[19:55] <sudokill> orwhatt, youd be better off looking on ebay or amazon or something for a cheap router thats compatable with 3rd party firmware
[19:55] <sudokill> youd save the money in power bills alone
[19:56] <edbian> orwhatt: Oh!  I was confused before.  People generally don't ever update their router firmware.  Using 2.6.21 is old (needlessly! the new kernels are free too ya know)
[19:56] <wols> orwhatt: if you want that buy a cheap openwrt compatible router. your ubuntu router will probably cost more electricity in a year than such a dedicated small routerbox
[19:56] <edbian> orwhatt: Of course, for someone to attack your router they'd really have to know what they were doing.
[19:56] <orwhatt> sudokill: so you re somehow stating mine would not actually be good/reliable/secure?
[19:56] <sudokill> wols, lol u said exactly what i said
[19:56] <Cerrdor> so I am running Ubuntu in VM and it installed nice I ran it a few times and now my desktop is all grey and gross and not the black sleek look how can I get it back correct? I didnt change anything configuration wise
[19:56] <Guest87412> when downloading and installing packages which should i use universe or multiverse
[19:56] <orwhatt> wols: that makes alot of sence thanks
[19:56] <elyawy> ubuntu on my imac has no sound , it is an imac from early 2009 20 inch and the sound doesn't work on all versions of ubuntu anybody knows a fix?
[19:57] <wols> orwhatt: WR1043ND is very cheap, runs openwrt
[19:57] <sudokill> orwhatt, if u have a router, but you cant put 3rd party f/w on it its still good (for routing)
[19:57] <edbian> orwhatt: There is a big difference between guessing the default password on it on executing a known exploit for router firmware
[19:57] <oscar> trinikrono: yes, but every time I try to upgrade ubuntu, it forces me to uninstall pidgin.
[19:57] <trinikrono> Guest87412: you should enable the both
[19:57] <trinikrono> oscar: well thats very naughty
[19:57] <orwhatt> edbian: the pass is good for my standars, im afraid of exploits for the firmware, being it old (and i think that unpatched open source software is worse than outdated proprietary lol)
[19:58] <sudokill> orwhatt, disable ssh / telnet whatever on your router and dont worry about it
[19:58] <wols> oscar: use aptitude to upgrade. it will tell you why it wants to remove pidgin
[19:58] <orwhatt> wols: ill look it up thanks
[19:58] <orwhatt> sudokill: any access from remote (the only being webmin) is disabled, spi and nat firewall are on
[19:58] <DriverIssues> bah
[19:59] <DriverIssues> can someone help me install ubuntu onto my external hdd
[19:59] <edbian> orwhatt: :)
[19:59] <edbian> DriverIssues: Yes, what's the issue?
[19:59] <orwhatt> edbian: also, i havent seen yet a router + modem that supports open source firmware, and i'd like to have an all in one
[19:59] <DriverIssues> it says that no root filesystem is defined
[19:59] <ikonia> DriverIssues: whats the issue ?
[19:59] <vasundhar> oscar: Did you select delete unused applications in aptitude settings ? that might be a possibility since when you upgrade (I assume) your counts will be lost leaving pidgin unused app
[19:59] <ikonia> DriverIssues: where did you define it ?
[19:59] <DriverIssues> I'm not sure what you mean
[19:59] <DriverIssues> I'm on a livecd, currently using it
[20:00] <orwhatt> edbian: since (unless you own one) you're not supposed to know all the details about that box would you say i can sleep tight with that outdated firmware? lol (sorry if im repeatitive)
[20:00] <DriverIssues> clicked "install ubuntu 11.04" on the desktop
[20:00] <wols> orwhatt: in europe there are. fritz!box by avm. it's a phonesystem, dsl modem and router. runs linux and has free firmware available via freetz and some very select models via openwrt
[20:00] <DriverIssues> nvm, I'll use the simple installer
[20:00] <sudokill> orwhatt, id say so firmware updates normally oinly fix bugs
[20:00] <edbian> orwhatt: tomato and ddwrt are both open source firmware.   People have suggested routers that support both of those I think.
[20:00] <orwhatt> wols: ill have to check amazon for that, shops dont seem to have lol
[20:00] <ikonia> DriverIssues: you have to tell the installer where to install ubuntu (that is the root file system) where did you point it at
[20:00] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  the hdd
[20:00] <wols> edbian: but they rarely come with dsl modems then
[20:00] <edbian> orwhatt: none (to my knowledge) come with OSS pre-installed.
[20:01] <sudokill> orwhatt, common ones are linksys and buffalo for 3rd party fw
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: ok - so you defined a file system called "/" on the external hard disk ?
[20:01] <orwhatt> edbian: i didnt ask if you knew any with OSS i asked if you would sleep tight if you had such an old device (came out around 2008 and only had minor bug fixes)
[20:01] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  I'm confused, what do you mean by a file system
[20:01] <edbian> orwhatt: Outdated router firmware?  Don't worry about it.  When you get a chance, log into the router and see if you can update the firmware.  Usually there is a button that checks for you!
[20:01] <orwhatt> sudokill: sadly i picked the locked one lol pwnt
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: you need to create a partition on the disk and assign the root (/) file system to it.
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: that is what a file system is
[20:01] <edbian> DriverIssues: Mount the HDD first
[20:02] <sudokill> orwhatt, dont worry about it i use a router from 2005 just use it and stop worrying
[20:02] <orwhatt> edbian: i know for a fact that unless people riot because they want ipv6 linksys wont update that router :'(
[20:02] <DriverIssues> bah bah I gave up , ikonia and edbian, I just used the simple install wizard
[20:02] <oscar> vasundhar: let me see, thanks
[20:02] <edbian> orwhatt: My router is from 2006
[20:02] <orwhatt> sudokill: thanks for the support :D
[20:02] <edbian> DriverIssues: yay
[20:02] <orwhatt> edbian: you too
[20:02] <vasundhar> you are welcome
[20:02] <ikonia> DriverIssues: that's the only way to install, using the installer, so I don't know how you where doing it without the installer
[20:02] <orwhatt> wols: you too
[20:02] <edbian> orwhatt: :)
[20:02] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  there was an option to use the "advanced partitioning utility"
[20:03] <edbian> DriverIssues: You have to mount that external hdd
[20:03] <orwhatt> thank you all for bearing with this noob  much appreciated
[20:03] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  i had wanted to not use so much space - I only wanted 100 gigs or so
[20:03] <ikonia> DriverIssues: ah, so you used the advanced partioning tool, not advanced installer
[20:03] <erbun> morning everyone!  anyone here have any experience with dhcp3-server?  I have tried installing it and while it created a folder in my etc folder, it was empty of everything every guide should tell me should be there?  all it has is a folder named dhclient-enter-hooks.d?
[20:03] <orwhatt> edbian: firmware is not open but i have access to iptables config LOL (curl)
[20:03] <martiniano> hello, can anyone tell me how to set up evolution as the default email client from the command line?
[20:03] <ab2tract> .
[20:03] <edbian> orwhatt: cool
[20:03] <ikonia> martiniano: just do it through the gui - it's easier
[20:04] <ikonia> martiniano: there is no reason to do it on the command line
[20:04] <orwhatt> anyways thanks everyone and have a nice day
[20:04] <martiniano> I can't, don't know why
[20:04] <martiniano> the option is disabled
[20:04] <ikonia> martiniano: explain ? how are you trying to do it
[20:04] <martiniano> so when I click on the ubuntu icon I can't see the email button
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> my nmap run says 5hours remaining
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> is that normal
[20:05] <sudokill> depends
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> on...
[20:05] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: it can take a long time, it depends what you're doing
[20:05] <sudokill> a slow scan can on a network other side of the world
[20:05] <martiniano> I installed Thunderbird to try it out and it got set up as the default
[20:06] <genii-around> If you told it to scan all the IP on a Class A for instance...
[20:06] <ikonia> martiniano: ok, so how are you trying to set evolution up as the default
[20:06] <martiniano> so THEN I was able to see thunderbird in the menu
[20:06] <sudokill> coldpizza72i, on a local network then it should b less than 30 seconds
[20:06] <martiniano> through the gui
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> whats a class a
[20:06] <ikonia> martiniano: which gui
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> genii-around: *
[20:06] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: that's the time you shouldn't be using nmap
[20:06] <martiniano> preferred applications
[20:06] <elyawy> ubuntu on intel imac early 2009 no sound help
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> ikonia: huh?
[20:07] <martiniano> then on the internet tab there's web browser and mail reader
[20:07] <DriverIssues> ok, whoever was helping me about the processor frequency stuck at the lowest power state
[20:07] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: you're asking what a class A network is, if this is the case you shouldn't be using a tool such as nmap
[20:07] <martiniano> i have chromium as my default but no application selected on the mail reader option
[20:07] <genii-around> coldpizza72i: A class A IP range is something like all the numbers between 192.0.0.0 and 192.255.255.255 for instance
[20:07] <coldpizza72i> ikonia: y not
[20:07] <ikonia> martiniano: and you can't do it ?
[20:07] <martiniano> and the drop down menu us disabled
[20:07] <martiniano> nope
[20:07] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: because it requires a basic knowledge of networking to use it
[20:07] <ikonia> martiniano: how did you lauch the gui ?
[20:08] <DriverIssues> wols
[20:08] <martiniano> unity
[20:08] <coldpizza72i> genii-around: what are other clases
[20:08] <ikonia> martiniano: , sorry, I meant how are you luanching
[20:08] <martiniano> searched for preffered applications
[20:08] <DriverIssues> oh hey
[20:08] <martiniano> oh, evolution... through the messaging menu
[20:08] <DriverIssues> what the heck
[20:08] <DriverIssues> went up to 2.6 ghz... never mind
[20:08] <DriverIssues> I guess what I was doing wasn't stressful enough :P
[20:08] <sudokill> DriverIssues, maybe some power saving thing
[20:09] <ikonia> martiniano: interesting, I don't know where that menu is within unity these days, but try to find it from within the unity interface
[20:09] <martiniano> I did
[20:09] <wols> DriverIssues: what cpu is it?
[20:09] <ikonia> martiniano: I'm wondering if it wasn't launched without the correct permissions
[20:09] <martiniano> can I post a screen shot?
[20:09] <wols> DriverIssues: and how did you check if it went up?
[20:09] <genii-around> coldpizza72i: It logically follows then that Class B is 192.0.0.0 to 192.0.255.255   and class C is 192.0.0.0 to 192.0.0.255
[20:09] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  It was, I was just surprised it went down so low while I was doing something mildly cpu-intesnive
[20:09] <ikonia> martiniano: sure
[20:09] <DriverIssues> wols:  AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+, hardinfo
[20:09] <martiniano> ok, gimme a second
[20:09] <wols> DriverIssues: use cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:09] <sudokill> DriverIssues, sorry i wasnt following ur posts but in the bios you should be able to turn power saving off, but now youve realised its working u should leaev it
[20:10] <DriverIssues> And I played runescape on max settings using software rendering as my stress test :P
[20:10] <ab2tract> is my ip shown
[20:10] <ikonia> ab2tract: yes
[20:10] <ikonia> ab2tract: 178.194.19.98
[20:11] <edbian> ab2tract: Some ip will be shown or you wouldn't get on here.
[20:11] <ab2tract> shouldnt /mode ab2tract +i hide that from other users or do you have a script that negates that
[20:11] <edbian> ab2tract: Our messages are sent to your ip
[20:11] <DriverIssues> model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ stepping	: 2 cpu MHz		: 2600.000 cache size	: 512 KB
[20:11] <ikonia> ab2tract: no, ask the guys in #freenode to explain that stuff to you
[20:11] <sudokill> ab2tract, you can use tor for freenode if ur paranoid or whatever
[20:11] <martiniano> there's the preffered application menu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/734549/preffered%20aplications.png
[20:11] <sudokill> lol
[20:12] <martiniano> hope you can see it
[20:12] <wols> DriverIssues: it sounds like hardinfo is wrong
[20:12] <wols> !info hardinfo
[20:12] <coldpizza72i> genii-around: how do you determine what class a network is that isnt yours
[20:12] <ab2tract> i have a healthly level of paranoia
[20:12] <sudokill> but we all know ur ip now
[20:12] <DriverIssues> wols:  why would it be wrong.  It displayed the same thing
[20:12] <ab2tract> lol
[20:12] <martiniano> I tried to get a screen shot of the unity dash but can't
[20:12] <ikonia> martiniano: I see what you mean.
[20:12] <ab2tract> well could be a proxy or connected through my phone
[20:13] <DriverIssues> wols:  before stressing cpu, it was 1000 mhz, now it went up to 2600 mhz
[20:13] <martiniano> just imagine it without the mail option
[20:13] <ikonia> martiniano: how did you set thunderbird as the default ?
[20:13] <wols> coldpizza72i: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_C_network
[20:13] <martiniano> so what I was thinking was just to "force" it
[20:13] <ikonia> martiniano: I see you're thinking, but we need to understand what's happened before messing more
[20:13] <martiniano> I think it was set up that way just as I installed it
[20:13] <ikonia> martiniano: no, it won't do it by default like that
[20:14] <Ampelbein> coldpizza72i: you know that network classes are absolutely unimportant since about 20 years?
[20:14] <martiniano> mmm let me check, I can install it again just to check
[20:14] <ikonia> martiniano: is evolution actually installed ?
[20:14] <martiniano> yep
[20:14] <wols> DriverIssues: cpuinfo is what the kernel sees. and on a linux system there is no higher authority thn the kernel. and the kernel says your CPU runs at 2600MHz
[20:15] <DriverIssues> wols:  yes, and hardinfo says the same thing.  I don't understand why its wrong
[20:15] <wols> you said hardinfo displayed 1000MHz only
[20:15] <sudokill> DriverIssues, the cpu downclocls to save power, just like gpus do
[20:15] <DriverIssues> wols:  that was before a stress test
[20:15] <sudokill> dont worry baout it
[20:16] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  I know I know, I just felt the downclocking was a little too aggressive and might be messed up, turned out it wasn't, problem solved
[20:16] <acicula> DriverIssues: you have trouble getting your proc to run at 2600Mh?
[20:16] <DriverIssues> acicula:  Ack no, see above post
[20:16] <martiniano> (this is nice, first time on IRC chat, thanks for your help)
[20:16] <sudokill> DriverIssues, its supposed to be super low clock speed otherwise no point in power saving
[20:17] <sudokill> DriverIssues, my gpu downclocks to 50mhz when idle
[20:17] <sudokill> from 900
[20:17] <ikonia> martiniano: just trying to figure out what could have happened to make what you've sen happen
[20:17] <DriverIssues> ok w/e
[20:17] <martiniano> yeo
[20:17] <martiniano> yep, it just happened automatically
[20:18] <martiniano> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/734549/Screenshot.png
[20:18] <DriverIssues> Oh, this is sort of weird.  On ubuntu, sound sounds really different than on windows media player
[20:18] <DriverIssues> Ubuntu doesn't do any sort of sound enhancement by default, does it?
[20:18] <martiniano> and now I can see the "check mail" on the unity dash
[20:19] <ikonia> martiniano: ok - that suggests that your OS things that thunderbird is the only mail application installed
[20:19] <DriverIssues> Because it sounds bassier
[20:19] <genii-around> coldpizza72i: If you want to get an idea of how IPv4 netmasks work, maybe plug some different numbers into http://www.subnet-calculator.com/ and examine the results
[20:19] <ikonia> martiniano: if you select the drop down box, is there only thunderbird in the list ?
[20:19] <martiniano> no
[20:19] <sudokill> DriverIssues, no it shouldnt do but the sound "engine" is different on linux
[20:20] <ikonia> martiniano: what else is in the list ?
[20:20] <lapion> got an image pastebin for me ?
[20:20] <martiniano> nothing else, just thunderbird
[20:20] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  eh... well, I shouldn't complain.  But how do I mute a sound source
[20:20] <DriverIssues> er, output
[20:20] <ikonia> martiniano: ok, so there answer to "is there only thundebird in the list" is "yes", no "no"
[20:20] <DriverIssues> Because I don't want my monitor to play anything
[20:20] <sudokill> DriverIssues, in the soun options icon thing you should be able to select devices there, right click and choose mute i think
[20:21] <martiniano> sorry, don't understand the question
[20:21] <ikonia> martiniano: try re-installing evolution, see if that appears in the list
[20:21] <ikonia> martiniano: the OS believes evolution is not available as a mail app
[20:22] <martiniano> ok, do a reinstall on synaptic or an uninstall and reinstall cycle?
[20:22] <martiniano> guess it's the same thing
[20:23] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  it doesn't recognize the two devices as separate
[20:23] <ikonia> martiniano: a reinstall should be enough
[20:23] <carter_> how do i add more disk space to my dual boot
[20:23] <sudokill> DriverIssues, try typing alsamixer see if u can mute it there, type m to mute
[20:23] <carter_> i did not make seperate partitions just simple install via ubuntu.com for vista (sigh)
[20:23] <ikonia> carter_: repartition it
[20:23] <ikonia> carter_: so it's wubi
[20:23] <carter_> yes
[20:24] <martiniano> I'm afraid it didn't work
[20:24] <Kreative> Hmm, hello, would anyone happen to know a way to get the sound menu to work with Alsa?
[20:24] <mikec_> carter ijust install inside windows
[20:24] <carter_> apolagies for bringing this crap to the IRC haha - still learning Linux, its cool
[20:24] <DriverIssues> sudokiller:  What is this.  A gui in the terminal?! :P
[20:24] <sudokill> yes sort of
[20:25] <martiniano> thunderbird is still the only email program listed
[20:25] <carter_> mickec_: you add disk space for ubuntu 11.4 from windows ?
[20:25] <Kreative> Or I'm looking at the code in Launchpad, could someone point me to the correct file(s) I would have to edit if there's no other easier way?
[20:25] <mikec_> no you don't have partion
[20:25] <arucreid> czesc wam
[20:25] <sudokill> Kreative, what do you mean sound menu? the mixer?
[20:26] <Kreative> sudokill: the ubuntu sound menu applet, in the panel.
[20:26] <arucreid> hello everyone
[20:26] <sudokill> Kreative, it should work as is
[20:26] <Kreative> I dislike PulseAudio, and right now I'm using a simple python script with a rather boring slider.
[20:26] <mikec_> carter windows treats it as a windows program
[20:27] <sudokill> everyone dislikes pulse
[20:27] <sudokill> :S
[20:27] <Kreative> sudokill: It does not work, unfortunately, however, I did replace PulseAudio in a rather sloppy way.
[20:28] <outer_space> whats an app that can securely and reliably store text notes?
[20:28] <Kreative> Maybe I could have just tried doing it in gstreamer-properties, oh well, I ougha try it when I get back home.
[20:28] <arucreid> Is anybody come from POLAND?
[20:28] <arucreid> nobody?:)
[20:28] <arucreid> ;p
[20:28] <sudokill> outer_space, you can use truecrypt and create a container
[20:28] <j3roth> how do I list what channel the Wifi network I am connected to is on? (There are multiple networks with the same SSID)
[20:29] <outer_space> Looking for something like tomboy but designed to be reliable
[20:29] <sudokill> ah idk
[20:29] <acicula> outer_space: what do you mean reliable
[20:29] <edbian> outer_space: tomboy isn't reliable?
[20:29] <acicula> *by
[20:29] <sudokill> yea, why is tomboy unreliable?
[20:30] <outer_space> theres a known dataloss bug for ext4 filesystems
[20:30] <DriverIssues> Ok guys... restarting to a real ubuntu installation
[20:30] <DriverIssues> what the hell
[20:30] <DriverIssues> there's no shutdown button
[20:30] <sudokill> lol
[20:30] <DriverIssues> ok... weird
[20:30] <DriverIssues> shutting down from the command line
[20:30] <outer_space> I cant be losing notes, 2nd time tomboy lost super-important notes on me
[20:30] <sudokill> type reboot in terminal?
[20:31] <outer_space> reboot 0
[20:31] <DriverIssues> Ubuntu "Terminal Lover" Natty Narwhal is rebooting!
[20:31] <nud3lz> @j3roth type in your shell iwlist wlan0 channel then a list should apear and your current
[20:31] <kla> is reboot really a standard command??
[20:32] <nud3lz> @j3roth something like Current Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7)
[20:32] <j3roth> Thanks! :)
[20:32] <Wiesshund> ketting 11.04 upgrade run, any pitfalls i should look out for?
[20:32] <Wiesshund> *letting
[20:32] <nud3lz> np
[20:34] <martiniano> ikonia: any idea what could be wrong? Isn't there a conf file that I could edit?
[20:34] <Wiesshund> kla i believe the command is shutdown and reboot is one of the available parameters for it
[20:35] <acicula> reboot exists as a file
[20:35] <acicula> in /sbin
[20:35] <acicula> but it might be that reboot and halt point to the same program, idunno
[20:35] <coz_> Wiesshund,  well,, upgrading the system is consistently inconsistent
[20:36] <coz_> Wiesshund,  I always recommend a clean install
[20:36] <acicula> ah /sbin/halt points to reboot
[20:36] <acicula> Wiesshund: its usually fine, just make sure you have a backup of your data
[20:38] <ikonia> martiniano: sorry, was just away
[20:38] <Wiesshund> well luckily i dont really have any data on this machine. just dont like having to reset up everything
[20:38] <ikonia> martiniano: there isn't a config file, it's part of the desktop, hence why I'm trying to think of what could have changed
[20:38] <DriverIssues> I'm back!
[20:39] <Wiesshund> eh if the upgrade craps out, i'll just do a fresh install
[20:39] <DriverIssues> Whoever said that there was no need to use a terminal in ubuntu
[20:39] <DriverIssues> or, when someone says that
[20:39] <DriverIssues> I now have a foolproof riposte - I was forced to reboot via the terminal once!
[20:40] <crazydip> newest libcurl3 security update is missing ubuntu changelog, where can I find it?
[20:40] <Wiesshund> hehe terminal has tons of uses. lots of things i can do in it faster than in a GUI
[20:40] <wols> DriverIssues: switching between my IGP and discrete graphics needs the terminal. can't be done in X at all
[20:40] <DriverIssues> Wiesshund:  just installed ubuntu and the stupid reboot button disappeared, which is just ridiculous...
[20:41] <Cerrdor> so I am running Ubuntu in VM and it installed nice I ran it a few times and now my desktop is all grey and gross and not the black sleek look how can I get it back correct? I didnt change anything configuration wise
[20:41] <DriverIssues> anyways.  my driver issues are gone!
[20:41] <DriverIssues> cerrdor, open up a terminal and type "unity"
[20:41] <DriverIssues> oh, the irony of that statement.
[20:42] <PythonSnake> Hi all
[20:42] <Cerrdor> DriverIssues didnt work
[20:42] <PythonSnake> how to configure touchpad for 3 fingers multi touch ?
[20:42] <mikec_> hello python
[20:42] <PythonSnake> Hi mikec_
[20:42] <Cerrdor> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[20:43] <crazydip> where can i find the ubuntu changelog for a package that is missing the changelog in packages.ubuntu.com (gives 404)?
[20:43] <Cerrdor> DriversFixed,  didnt work
[20:43] <Cerrdor> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[20:43] <acicula> crazydip: idunno, but the updated package changelof might list a reason?
[20:43] <PythonSnake> !wine
[20:43] <acicula> *Changelog
[20:44] <Wiesshund> Cerrdor you try closing the VM and reopening?
[20:44] <crazydip> acicula, the original changelog does not because it's an ubuntu version bump (not upstream)
[20:44] <Cerrdor> DriversFixed, did that twice
[20:44] <acicula> crazydip: heu thats pretty odd then
[20:45] <DriversFixed> Um, how do I rename my computer
[20:45] <PythonSnake> how to change real name pease ?
[20:45] <Cerrdor> lol
[20:45] <crazydip> acicula, yeah, i mean, the link on packages.ubuntu.com gives a 404 - i checked, and previous version have a ubuntu changelog (even with a mere ubuntu version bump)
[20:46] <io> !hostname | DriversFixed
[20:46] <DriversFixed> ... no, what ubuntu calls my computer
[20:46] <DriversFixed> I love you, ubottu
[20:46] <crazydip> acicula, trying to find it on launchpad in the lp
[20:47] <DriversFixed> argh where's the terminal in unity
[20:47] <jimrew> is there an easy way of installing from source?
[20:47] <bibs> hola ubuntu pals
[20:47] <io> PythonSnake: did you need help or was you refering to DriversFixed?
[20:47] <bibs> anyone know anything about solusVM ?
[20:47] <io> jimrew: installing what from source, an application?
[20:47] <jimrew>  io: yes
[20:47] <PythonSnake> io: need help..
[20:47] <fairuz> DriversFixed: In usual place?
[20:48] <fairuz> :D
[20:48] <yeats> crazydip: have you tried changing mirrors?
[20:48] <bibs> ..
[20:48] <jimrew> io: yes
[20:48] <DriversFixed> fairuz:  no, it's hidden.  I pinned it to the sidebar
[20:48] <crazydip> yeats, changelogs.buntu.com has mirrors?
[20:48] <PythonSnake> DriversFixed: Type terminal in search bar
[20:48] <Wiesshund> DriversFixed iirc in unity look in the apps tab
[20:49] <Cerrdor>  getting the error msg Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[20:49] <Cerrdor> can someone help
[20:49] <Cerrdor> gnome is fuzzin up
[20:49] <and> i use ubuntu from a live usb, what i need is to use the remaining free space to create a fat32 partition accessible both from the live cession and when pluging the usb key in a pc, any idea how ?
[20:49] <yeats> crazydip: oh.. hmm - sorry - I thought you were getting a 404 on a package - my mistake ;-)
[20:49] <io> jimrew: what application?
[20:49] <jimrew> gimp
[20:49] <DriversFixed> ok this is stupid
[20:50] <DriversFixed> how do I get to /etc/hosts
[20:50] <bibs> ?
[20:50] <cheako> Hello, I've lost my launchers after switching to Gnome3...  I'm just clueless and lost.
[20:50] <bibs> cd /
[20:50] <Cerrdor> so I am running Ubuntu in VM and it installed nice I ran it a few times and now my desktop is all grey and gross and not the black sleek look how can I get it back correct? I didnt change anything configuration wise
[20:50] <DriversFixed> bibs, how do I open etc/hosts in gedit
[20:50] <crazydip> yeats, package is fine, ubuntu changelog gives 404 :)
[20:50] <meera> which program transfers unbuntu and ipod touch?
[20:50] <io> !info gimp | jimrew
[20:50] <jimrew> !info gimp
[20:51] <Wiesshund> DriversFixed gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[20:51] <io> jimrew: what is preventing you to install via the repositories?
[20:51] <io> s/to/from
[20:51] <VilleVicious> Hi! I'm running ubuntu 11.4 and I'm havint trouble with sounds: The sounds get stuck repeating the same 1-2 sec part for a short while then goes completely silent, and no other application can produce sounds. some times this happens with opening sound effect others later looking at youtube or something. Can anybody offer advice haw to solvw this?
[20:51] <DriversFixed> argh.  by the way, ccsm just turned bright pink
[20:51] <DriversFixed> !info ccsm
[20:52] <DriversFixed> oh wait.  um...
[20:52] <yeats> !sound | VilleVicious
[20:52] <DriversFixed> how do you do that info thingy
[20:52] <Wiesshund> you can chose not to use unity, just pick gname at login
[20:52] <Wiesshund> gnome*
[20:52] <ikonia> DriversFixed: !info $package_name
[20:52] <ikonia> DriversFixed: if you need a lot of info, pm ubottu with the request
[20:52] <back-track> comment on peut modéliser le kernel de linux en UML2
[20:52] <DriversFixed> !info ccsm
[20:52] <trism> DriversFixed: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager now
[20:52] <DriversFixed> great
[20:52] <yeats> !fr | back-track
[20:53] <DriversFixed> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:53] <raven> how to manage sms with surfstick?
[20:53] <DriversFixed> right.  that thing, just turned pick.
[20:53] <mneptok> DriversFixed: you can /msg the bot, too ;)
[20:54] <DriversFixed> ok.  so the ccsm turns pink when I use it and looks really weird, no problem, I guess
[20:54] <cheako> gnome-tweak-tool?
[20:57] <nhr> How do I setup mac like gestures? I have two finger scroll woking, but no other gestures
[20:57] <rashteco> quien es programador java?
[20:57] <DriversFixed> how do I edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname
[20:57] <Wiesshund> most of my Mac gestures only require 1 finger
[20:58] <DriversFixed> rashteco... no hablamos espanol.
[20:58] <Logan_> !es | rashteco
[20:58] <PythonSnake> rashteco: #java
[20:58] <Logan_> nhr: http://computechgadgets.com/how-to-2/how-to-get-mac-style-finger-gesture-for-ubuntu
[20:58] <Logan_> nhr: It requires the touchegg software.
[21:00] <exodusinside> looking for the anon from /g/ who offered boot help for ubuntu
[21:00] <DriversFixed> bbiab guys.
[21:01] <raven> how to manage sms with huawai internet device?
[21:01] <PythonSnake> How to configure my touchpad for 3 fingers right click ?
[21:01] <Logan_> raven: Is it running Ubuntu?
[21:03] <io> !touchpad | PythonSnake
[21:03] <Logan_> PythonSnake: Are you using a MacBook (Pro/Air)?
[21:04] <PythonSnake> Logan_ no
[21:04] <hawkal> hi does anyone here know how I could get window and ubuntu firefox to share the same profile?
[21:05] <exodusinside> can anyone help me out? i loaded ubuntu to load with windows... goes to the purple screen then nothing, windows still boots fine.
[21:05] <soreau> exodusinside: What graphics card?
[21:06] <PythonSnake> what is better unity or gnome ?
[21:06] <PythonSnake> or there's an even better one ?
[21:06] <genii-around> soreau: My bet is nvidia
[21:06] <exodusinside> soreau : hd 6850
[21:06] <soreau> radeon ;)
[21:06] <genii-around> Hm, or not
[21:06] <mikec_> exodus is windows 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu has to be the same
[21:06] <soreau> exodusinside: Try booting with nomodeset and see if it helps
[21:06] <exodusinside> 64 bit, ubuntu is 64 bit as well
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> PythonSnake, what is better apples or oranges?  The answer depends... on personal preference
[21:06] <acicula> PythonSnake: unity replaces just a small portion of gnome
[21:07] <PythonSnake> Which one have more functions ?
[21:07] <acicula> so pick the interface that suits you as everything else will be largely the same
[21:07] <mneptok> !best
[21:07] <soreau> PythonSnake: unity is a compiz plugin though I think compiz is better by itself without unity
[21:07] <soreau> but that's just my two cents
[21:08] <PythonSnake> ?
[21:09] <Huffameg> hi! i want to make the window picker which is activated with super+W also to be activated when I click my mouse in the bottom of my screen. I know how I configured this in the last version, but I can't find it in 11.04. a hint, anyone?
[21:09] <PythonSnake> wow
[21:09] <soreau> Huffameg: ccsm>Scale
[21:09] <PythonSnake> thx ubottu
[21:09] <DriversFixed> Can anyone hear me
[21:09] <soreau> DriversFixed: Nope
[21:09] <hellhammer> I'm having an issue with pidgin OTR verification in ubuntu 10.04 when i send the verification request my friend doesnt get it and vice versa whats going on?
[21:09] <bsmith093> im trying to switch from gpodder to rhythmbox because gpodder downloads incredible slow recently, how do i get rhythmbox to scan my gpodder podcast folder to updates its feeds
[21:09] <DriversFixed> soreau:  Sorry, I was getting "cannot send to channel" messages
[21:10] <DriversFixed> soreau:  Was trying to diagnose
[21:10] <soreau> DriversFixed: That usually means you're in a channel that requires a registered nick to speak
[21:10] <soreau> ! register | DriversFixed
[21:10] <enko> hmmmmmmmm
[21:10] <enko> how do i get rid of unity and put in kde ?
[21:11] <Wiesshund> install KDE
[21:11] <Wiesshund> You dont have to use unity
[21:11] <enko> can i do that with apt-get ?
[21:11] <yeats> !kde | enko
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> enko, kubuntu-destkop i think
[21:11] <Huffameg> soreau: i tried that but it tells me it's not installed and when i try to do that it can find the package..
[21:11] <mneptok> enko: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[21:11] <enko> thank you guys for the quick response.
[21:11] <rypervenche> What can I use to take a picture of something using my webcam, aside from cheese?
[21:12] <soreau> Huffameg: When you run ccsm in your terminal, if it isn't installed, it should tell you what package to install
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> Huffameg, it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:13] <DriversFixed> soreau:  Well, I'm speaking now...
[21:13] <enko> do you guys prefer unity > gnome or kde ?
[21:14] <rypervenche> enko: I like Gnome2.x but I use Xfce which is nice too.
[21:14] <guntbert> enko: try them out and decide for yourself
[21:14] <Wiesshund> depends on what i want, unity is nice for small screen netbooks etc
[21:14] <Wiesshund> desktop i like gnome more, but i have screen space to waste
[21:14]  * mneptok wonders if the "!best" factoid really needs to be repeated every 10 minutes
[21:15] <DriversFixed> btw, you can lock the autohiding sidebar in unity
[21:15] <enko> yea i like unity on my netbook, but i miss having menus instead of searching for everything
[21:15] <live-user> i am on natty live. i have a usb 3.0  drive which has 1.3 G of used space but not visible. i have put it into usb 3.0 port and it also shows 1.3 G is used but not showing when clicked even as root!!
[21:15] <PythonSnake> seems that gnome is the most popular
[21:15] <Wiesshund> well gnome is older, more people are used to it
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> mneptok, perhaps a best-bot could be created to automatically post !best every 15 minutes ;)
[21:16] <Wiesshund> neither is better per say
[21:16] <DriversFixed> what is !best
[21:16] <DriversFixed> !best
[21:16] <enko> I was just asking personal opinions here, not something that has been gathered from a wide range poll.
[21:16] <yeats> KDE is older, actually (but this is veering OT quickly ;-) )
[21:17] <zatch-x-lio> I have a question about compiling
[21:17] <Wiesshund> rebooting to see if 11.04 upgrade worked bb soon
[21:17] <cheako> http://tinyurl.com/43nv8m6  I've found some instructions that may help me.  However how can I move my old launchers from the ?old? gnome-panel?
[21:17] <DriversFixed> ok... how do i get multiple monitors to work
[21:18] <guntbert> enko: this channel is not the place for "personal opinions" - try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <PythonSnake> Gnome 3 is new
[21:18] <yeats> zatch-x-lio: go ahead and ask your question
[21:18] <mikec_> driver i could never get 2 monitors to work in ubuntu
[21:19] <cheako> I'm also a bit disorientated because currently nautilus is not installable, circular dependency.
[21:19] <DriversFixed> great, strike 1 against ubuntu for a usable os...
[21:19] <ikonia> cheako: do you have external repos or PPA's enabled
[21:19] <cheako> PythonSnake: Yes, it's not my intention to run Gnome3.
[21:19] <live-user> no one?
[21:19] <zatch-x-lio> whenever I try to run sudo checkinstall it ends up with a mkdir fail, I really have no idea what is causing it since i'm fairly new to ubuntu
[21:20] <cheako> ikonia: I do or did, but now I believe it's just oneiric.
[21:20] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: what are you trying to build ?
[21:20] <ikonia> cheako: they have probably installed packages that conflict and have created the broken dependency circle
[21:20] <yeats> DriversFixed: that's one person's experience... if your graphics card can support dual monitors, it should be as easy as going to System -> Preferences -> Monitors and configuring there
[21:20] <DriversFixed> yeats:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 seems to say differently
[21:21] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: i'm trying to build naev-0.5.0, it does say it needs ndata but I don't think that would have to do with the compiling would it?
[21:21] <PythonSnake> how to install 2 user interface same time ?
[21:21] <DriversFixed> yeats:  oh wait, that's really old
[21:21] <cheako> ikonia: Sure.  Though I'm looking at the output of apt-cache policy and it looks like all the offending packages came from oneiric.
[21:21] <ikonia> PythonSnake: just install them
[21:21] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: any reason not to use the version out of th erepo
[21:21] <ikonia> cheako: which one ?
[21:21] <PythonSnake> and how to switch ?
[21:22] <zatch-x-lio> Ikonia: because there isn't one in the repo
[21:22] <cheako> It's likely that nautilus needs to be 3.1x instead of 3.0x.  Currently the gnome install seams to be split into two.
[21:22] <xxkme> hi guys. i'm currently trying to install ubuntu from a burned cd, and i got it to boot up, but it's been on the ubuntu loading screen with the dots for close to half an hour now. it's not frozen, but is this normal? i've got no problem being patient but i just want to make sure nothing's wrong, or what to do.
[21:22] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: really, I thought naev was inthe repo
[21:22] <cheako> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/  3.1.2...  and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/ 1:3.0.2...
[21:23] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: doesn't seem to be in the 10.10 repo
[21:23] <DriversFixed> um... how come my lcd monitor is at 50hz
[21:23] <yeats> xxkme: could be a bad burn... I usually use the alternate installer so the full GUI isn't necessary
[21:23] <yeats> !alternate | xxkme
[21:23] <cheako> Though nautilus is only 18min old, perhaps I jusy need todo an apt-get update.
[21:24] <xxkme> yeats: thank you for your answer. i'll try that. :)
[21:24] <xxkme> ubottu: thanks for the answer and link. :)
[21:25] <PythonSnake> ubottu: Hi
[21:25] <cheako> The contention seams to be coming from the gnome-desktop3 source package.
[21:25] <ikonia> PythonSnake: it's a bot
[21:25] <cheako> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.0.0-0ubuntu1
[21:25] <cheako> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.1.2-0ubuntu1
[21:26] <ikonia> cheako: it's not supported
[21:26] <ikonia> cheako: what additional repos did you have enabled ?
[21:26] <cheako> gnome-shell depends on libgnome-desktop-3-2 while nautilus on libgnome-desktop-3-0
[21:26] <superlou> Am I missing something obvious? once i've installed software in wine, how do I run it if I don't know the name of it?  Is there some add on to the launcher that lets you see your installed apps in a heirarchy?
[21:26] <DriversFixed> my second monitor isn't being detected :(
[21:26] <cheako> ikonia: xorg edgers and upstream wine.
[21:27] <cheako> ...perhaps something for mplay also.
[21:27] <ikonia> cheako: can't see them causing too much of a problem
[21:27] <yeats> superlou: Wine apps should be grouped in the menu (don't know about Unity, though)
[21:28] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: sorry i timed out, did you say anything after i said that it wasn't in the repos?
[21:28] <jjgalvez__> Empathy has no menu when launched from the indicator, anyone know how to get the menu back?
[21:28] <superlou> yeats, as far as i can tell, there's no way to show a menu.  you can only type the first few letters of the name
[21:28] <superlou> yeats, (in unity)
[21:28] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: I thought it was in the repo, but I've not looked in fairness
[21:28] <alruin> hello
[21:28] <|Long|> hi
[21:29] <dougl>  hullo
[21:29] <cheako> I can work with the package issues, what's not working so well for me is the deletion of all my launchers on upgrade.
[21:29] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: it doesn't seem to be popping up in mine. so i'm stuck with compiling for now which brings me back to my problem
[21:29] <pigiman1> Hey, my brother uses Ubuntu 11.4 with dual screen and he wants to know if there is a way to use dual desktops in dual screens
[21:29] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: for the first thing - drop check install, run the process one step at a time to see what's failing
[21:29] <aguitel> wols, remember my ussue ?
[21:29] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: I suspect the issue is it's not building, hence why it's not doing the install
[21:30] <_artyhedgehog_> Excuse me! Can someone help me? I use Unity in Ubuntu 11.04. Every time I log out my applications in left panel set to default. Why can it happen?
[21:30] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: you saying somewhere with the .configure or make?
[21:30] <Cube``> test
[21:30] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: firs step - run configure, look out the output, the warnings any errors,
[21:31] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: then run make, look for warnings, see if it creates the binaries and libraries, then stop once that part has happened you know it's worked
[21:31] <totozzz> .
[21:32] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: well it looks like it made everything correctly, no warnings at all for either step i think...
[21:32] <Cube``> test
[21:32] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: you think......you need to be sure
[21:32] <yeats> superlou: this thread may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1740368
[21:33] <Cube``> test
[21:33] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: it isn't spitting out anything obviouse, and for the make part it says making all for several things then returns to console
[21:33] <guntbert> Cube``: use #test for testing please
[21:33] <Cube``> guntbert: sry bro
[21:33] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: could you pastebin the last say 10 lines of the make output please ?
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in lib
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in csparse
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in lua
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in src
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in tk
[21:34] <FloodBot1> zatch-x-lio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> Making all in widget
[21:34] <Cube``> im joining that right now
[21:34] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: no - pastebin
[21:34] <AbeFroman> how can i log into root? bash doesnt work...
[21:34] <ikonia> !pastebin | zatch-x-lio
[21:34] <Cube``> sry
[21:34] <ikonia> AbeFroman: you don't login as root
[21:34] <ikonia> !sudo > AbeFroman
[21:34] <alruin> hm
[21:34] <superlou> yeats, thanks
[21:34] <zatch-x-lio> sorry, didn't think it would do that
[21:35] <zatch-x-lio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633209/
[21:35] <PythonSnake> !sudo > PythonSnake
[21:35] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: after that it just returns to the console
[21:35] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: yea
[21:35] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: well, no warnings there,
[21:36] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: so you now have a choice of returning to check_install to debug it or doing "make install" now to install it as a source package
[21:36] <AbeFroman> i understand how ubuntu is built but there MUST be a way to have root without the use of sudo
[21:36] <guntbert> zatch-x-lio: I'd expect warnings/errors to surface in the ./configure run
[21:36] <ikonia> AbeFroman: of course there is, but you don't need it
[21:37] <AbeFroman> ikonia: can you please tell me how though?
[21:37] <ikonia> AbeFroman: no
[21:37] <ikonia> AbeFroman: why do you need to / want to not use sudo ?
[21:37] <AbeFroman> ikonia: cool.
[21:37] <zatch-x-lio> guntbert: none do, I can copy/paste that for you if you want to see for yourself
[21:37] <default_> Hi all
[21:37] <guntbert> zatch-x-lio: yes, but please use a pastebin :)
[21:37] <default_> I have just insralled Ubuntu 11.04
[21:37] <zatch-x-lio> guntbert: already learned my lesson from the bot e.e
[21:38] <AbeFroman> ikonia: i want to destroy my filesystem
[21:38] <default_> But i made multiboot with windows xp
[21:38] <ikonia> AbeFroman: you can do that with sudo
[21:38] <default_> So I'll also install second ubuntu
[21:38] <default_> So i need to rename grub 2 list
[21:38] <AbeFroman> ikonia: i know, but can you please tell me how to gain root without sudo?
[21:38] <default_> how can i do that stuff?
[21:38] <lostinhere> im having an issue update manager any one think they can help me
[21:38] <ikonia> AbeFroman: no
[21:38] <ikonia> AbeFroman: unless you can tell me why you need it
[21:38] <edbian> lostinhere: yeah! :)
[21:38] <zatch-x-lio> guntbert:http://paste.ubuntu.com/633210/
[21:38] <edbian> lostinhere: What's the issue?
[21:39] <AbeFroman> ikonia: cause i need it.
[21:39] <ikonia> AbeFroman: nope, that's not a reason.
[21:39] <AbeFroman> Can anyone else tell me how to gain root without sudo, su/bash do not work.
[21:39] <ikonia> AbeFroman: that is an unsupported config - please don't ask
[21:39] <ikonia> !root > AbeFroman
[21:39] <ikonia> !sudo > AbeFroman
[21:39] <zatch-x-lio> AbeFroman: stick with sudo, its better in the long run
[21:39] <ikonia> AbeFroman: those documents ubottu has just pm's you explain it
[21:40] <AbeFroman> ikonia: i understand you. but I don't need to know about sudo, thanks though.
[21:40] <AbeFroman> zatch-x-lio: I understand, but can you please tell me how to gain root without sudo
[21:40] <mneptok> AbeFroman: you cannot
[21:40] <guntbert> zatch-x-lio: I don't see any problems there either, sorry ...
[21:40] <AbeFroman> mneptok: yes you can :D
[21:40] <mneptok> AbeFroman: no, you can't.
[21:40] <th0r> ikonia: you need a bot with the word NO in all the different languages
[21:40] <default_> I need help, please!
[21:40] <io> mneptok: you can
[21:40] <alruin> http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access
[21:40] <io> it's not suggested though, for the reasons shown in !root
[21:40] <AbeFroman> dont make me i2p, vpn, bnc just give me the answer lol.
[21:41] <zatch-x-lio> !root
[21:41] <Chheap> Having trouble with my acer532 netbook. Used it for over a year and the touchpad is recognized as ps2mouse. Now it seems that the new 11.04 should have fixed the problem so i did a fresh install of xubuntu 11.04 but no help.. the touchpad is still a ps2mouse (cant disable touchpad while typing wich is a big problem) Anyone have any ideas what i could try?
[21:41] <ikonia> AbeFroman: do not ask again
[21:41] <mneptok> io: really? you can have a root account with no password, and never ever have to use sudo to enable it? really? think about it.
[21:41] <guntbert> !nonoot | alruin
[21:41] <guntbert> !noroot | alruin
[21:41] <alruin> oke sorry
[21:41] <AbeFroman> obviously I don't care much for Rules. :)
[21:41] <_artyhedgehog_> Has anyone change the application in the Unity panel? My panel has default set of apps on every startup? Does anyone know, how to fix it?
[21:41] <mneptok> AbeFroman: threats of ban or kick evasion are against Freenode policy.
[21:42] <io> mneptok: ofcourse you can, but this isn't the place to discuss it. I was just pointing out that you were incorrect
[21:42] <joseircjose> Hello all! Is there a way to cap my CPU and GPU usage percentage? My laptop is getting really hot with 100% usage while playing games like Urban Terror and Savage 2.
[21:42] <BajK> if I have a module in /etc/modules and blacklist this in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf - will it be loaded or not?
[21:42] <mneptok> io: but i'm not.
[21:42] <mneptok> io: PM?
[21:42] <acicula> joseircjose: you could force it to run at a lower frequency, but how hot is your laptop actually getting?
[21:42] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: you said there was a way to debug, mind walking me through that?
[21:43] <joseircjose> My laptop reaches 90 degress sometimes, so this is very alarming.
[21:43] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: you have to read the ouput of the check_install process, it normally gives you some clues
[21:43] <joseircjose> It averages 80 degrees, which is VERY hot and not recommended.
[21:43] <acicula> joseircjose: what brand do you have
[21:43] <joseircjose> HP
[21:44] <ab2tract> joseircjose: if you have the know how i had had the same problem with a sony computer and resetting the cpu heatsink solved the problem
[21:44] <DriversFixed> joseircjose:  Do you have powersaving features on?
[21:44] <joseircjose> by resetting you mean replacing?
[21:44] <DriversFixed> ie speedstep or coolandquiet
[21:44] <acicula> joseircjose: you can add the cpufrequency applet to force the frequency of your cpu at a lower level
[21:44] <joseircjose> DriversFixed, I don't thinkk so/
[21:44] <DriversFixed> resetting means to reseat:  take off, reapply thermal paste, put back down
[21:44] <ab2tract> spot on driversfixed
[21:45] <acicula> joseircjose: what kind of cpu/gpu do you have?
[21:45] <DriversFixed> or
[21:45] <joseircjose> I'm not sure I'll do that right now, not least because I don't have the tools to open the laptop.
[21:45] <Chheap> Have u cleaned the fans?
[21:45] <joseircjose> acicula : Intel Core2 Duo
[21:45] <joseircjose> Nvidia
[21:45] <DriversFixed> joseircjose:  this may sound stupid, but you're on ubuntu, right?
[21:45] <joseircjose> yes :)
[21:45] <gsp2009> hey folks. I am trying to compile conexant drivers for a winmodem on 10.10. I get a compile error here: http://pastebin.com/CadmDGG2 I have simlinked from autoconf.h to config.h with no success. Any ideas?
[21:45] <joseircjose> I cleaned the fans by hoovering with a vacuum cleaner
[21:45] <acicula> joseircjose: can you be more specific? if the laptop it is old you could just have it serviced instead of cleaning it yourself?
[21:45] <Luxe> hoovering.
[21:45] <joseircjose> But still gets terribly hot.
[21:46] <Luxe> Nice adjective :3
[21:46] <live-user> no one?
[21:46] <DriversFixed> Blegh.  I know windows better.  Is there a ubuntu equivalent of the "high performance" and "power saver" profiles?
[21:46] <joseircjose> Also I forgot to mention, the laptop turns off suddenly when I'm playing games or its really hot.
[21:46] <_artyhedgehog_> Does anyone use Unity? =)
[21:46] <acicula> DriversFixed: eh perhaps in power-managment
[21:46] <joseircjose> I'd guess its a feature more than a problem.
[21:46] <DriversFixed> _artyhedgehog_ I do
[21:46] <DriversFixed> do you want to stop the sidebar from autohiding?
[21:46] <body> hi
[21:46] <DriversFixed> install ccsm
[21:46] <alruin> look off ther are proces runing grazie on the backgrond
[21:47] <acicula> joseircjose: thats a good indication that its overheating
[21:47] <joseircjose> acicula		joseircjose: you could force it to run at a lower frequency
[21:47] <joseircjose> Yes it's definitely overheating.
[21:47] <DriversFixed> joseircjose:  Try poking around the bios, enable speedstep if it isn't on
[21:47] <joseircjose> How would I force it to run at a lower frequency?
[21:47] <DriversFixed> Also,  do you have switchable graphics?
[21:48] <acicula> joseircjose: honestly you should get it serviced properly then, laptops these days are designed to run on the edge but it should be able to cope
[21:48] <joseircjose> I'm not even sure whether the CPU is getting too hot or the GPU
[21:48] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed, no, my applications on the panel always set to default set when I log in. Is it normal?
[21:48] <Chheap> joseircjose: Have u tried playing on windows ?
[21:48] <joseircjose> Servicing is not an option because I bought this laptop in another country.
[21:48] <DriversFixed> artyhedgehog, what do you mean by the applications on the panel always set to default
[21:48] <Chheap> joseircjose:  and does it only happen with those games
[21:48] <joseircjose> And quakelive
[21:49] <Joe____> Hello
[21:49] <joseircjose> I use ubuntu primarily so win7 is not an option
[21:49] <alruin> I bought this laptop in another country look at the 220 volt ore 300 volt some contrys are not the same
[21:49] <joseircjose> unless I can find a way to delete the vista in my laptop and install windows
[21:49] <ab2tract> joseircejose: im assuming you have nvidia x server settings isntalled you can see the temp
[21:49] <Joe____> Anyone have an experience with some major display problems once upgraded to 11.04 on an older machine running Mobility Radeon X300?
[21:50] <Chheap> joseircjose:  yes, I was just thinking if the overheating would happen in windows also.
[21:50] <tsaknorris> hmmm what is wrong with my wlan connection. ping is 44> ms and i have ath9k driver
[21:50] <joseircjose> GPU is at 70 degrees
[21:50] <Chheap> joseircjose:  but it sounds like its just a bad connection with the heatsink and gpu/cpu
[21:50] <joseircjose> Maybe
[21:50] <joseircjose> let me check my CPU temp
[21:51] <bibs> ok
[21:51] <tsaknorris> in this same sony vaio is also windows 7 and there is almost  100/100 signal quality
[21:51] <bibs> could someoen please help me with a VNC issue?
[21:51] <joseircjose> both are at 77 degrees
[21:51] <joseircjose> and I'm not even playing anything
[21:51] <acicula> tsaknorris: how much should it be?
[21:51] <joseircjose> Says virtual device : 65 degrees, anyone know what virtual device means in sensors?
[21:52] <tsaknorris> i tryed install with ndiswrapper one atheros driver 32bit but it wasnt good.
[21:52] <soreau> Joe____: Can you define 'major display problems'?
[21:52] <alruin> 46 c my cpu here aspire 7551g x4
[21:52] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed, I delete, for instance, Firefox from the left panel and add Google Chrome. But when I reboot, Firefox is there and Chrome is not.
[21:52] <joseircjose> I guess I'll have to ignore the heat and play till the laptop dies :(
[21:53] <tsaknorris> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[21:53] <acicula> tsaknorris: how much should it be?
[21:53] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed is it OK?
[21:53] <DriversFixed> _artyhedgehog_:  Oh.  I haven't gotten around to putting chromium in its right place... er... I might get the same issue
[21:53] <ab2tract> JoseircJose: have you tried using nvclock to up the fan to 100%
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[21:53] <Chheap> joseircjose: Does your fans work properly
[21:54] <joseircjose> I'm not sure if the fans work properly
[21:54] <ZinePhone> I need a little help, how I login in the terminal like a user? (of course I have the pass)
[21:54] <DriversFixed> _artyhedgehog_ how'd you go about removing firefox
[21:54] <joseircjose> I'll google nvclock right now
[21:54] <DriversFixed> _artyhedgehog_ try right clicking the icon, uncheck "keep in taskbar"
[21:55] <Chheap> Does anyone have acer 532 netbook (or knowledge howto fix touchpad problem on it)?
[21:55] <Chipzzz> ZinePhone: Applications > Accessories > Terminal - No password necessary
[21:55] <Chheap> I've struggled over a year without being able to disable touchpad while typing
[21:55] <th0r> Chheap: have you tried synclient?
[21:56] <Luxe> Eh?
[21:56] <ZinePhone> My actual session is in User1, using the terminal I want to be User2, Chipzzz.
[21:56] <io> !su | ZinePhone
[21:56] <alruin>  acer 532 howto fix touchpad in google wil help
[21:56] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed just drag it out the panel. Or the way you said. Anyway, the point is, on the next startup there are default application, not the ones I put there.
[21:56] <edbian> DriversFixed: You got unity running!? :)
[21:56] <io> ZinePhone: '$ sudo -u <user> <command>'
[21:56] <Chheap> th0r: i think i have, but I just found out that they fixed the problem on 11.04 So I did a fresh install with no success
[21:56] <DriversFixed> edbian:  yah, I just installed on a hdd and everything magically fixed itself :P
[21:57] <edbian> DriversFixed: told ya so!
[21:57] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed it's not only Firefox and Chrome. There are couple of them.
[21:57] <th0r> Chheap: you know that synclient is very case sensitive...I think the command is synclient TouchPadOff=true, but check the man page
[21:57] <DriversFixed> edbian:  Still doesn't recognize second monitor though...
[21:57] <edbian> DriversFixed: ouch, that's a tough one.  I can't help :(  Never set that up!
[21:58] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: i only see one error during check_install
[21:58] <DriversFixed> _artyhedgehog_ Well, I don't know how to help you, I can't reboot atm
[21:58] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: which is ?
[21:59] <uhgtt> 802.1x security in network settings tab ubuntu 11.04. it isnt enable should i enable it and what protocol to use md5 ? tls, tunnelled tls or protected eap
[21:59] <th0r> Chheap: it is synclient TouchpadOff=true
[21:59] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633215/
[21:59] <tsaknorris> hmmm what is wrong with my wlan connection. ping is 44> ms and i have ath9k driver. In this same sony vaio is also windows 7 and there is almost  100/100 signal quality. I tryed install with ndiswrapper one atheros driver 32bit but it wasnt good. 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[21:59] <_artyhedgehog_> DriversFixed oh... Al right. Thanx anyway. I'll try to find out myself. Bye!
[21:59] <wero> halguien que hable español?
[21:59] <arand> !es | wero
[22:00] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: use sudo
[22:00] <Chheap> th0r: Hmm seems it doesnt help.. or do i have to restart something?
[22:00] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: thats what I get when I use sudo
[22:00] <tsaknorris> Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=46/70  Signal level=-64 dBm
[22:00] <th0r> Chheap: no restart...might try 'synclient TouchpadOff=1' instead of true
[22:00] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: manually create that directory
[22:00] <uhgtt> neone know about 802.1x security settings
[22:01] <th0r> Chheap: I used to have two app launchers in the panel, one to turn the touchpad off and one too turn it on....one click and I was in business either way
[22:01] <soreau> tsaknorris: 44ms pinging what? Is that bad in any case?
[22:02] <uhgtt> no one ever seems to know. have to find a help file on internet somewhere
[22:02] <soreau> tsaknorris: There's really no reason to try and use ndiswrapper for atheros since the ath*k drivers work so well
[22:02] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: looks like that did it... I feel dumb now e.e
[22:02] <Chheap> th0r: well its still a ps2mouse..
[22:03] <todd> can anyone recommend a good speach recognition app for ubuntu?
[22:03] <ikonia> zatch-x-lio: no need to feel dumb
[22:03] <Chheap> th0r:  it worked once when i installed fresh 10.04 but when i ran updates it went to ps2mouse
[22:03] <th0r> Chheap: you mean one of those external touchpads? If it isn't a synaptics then synclient won't do you any good
[22:03] <zatch-x-lio> ikonia: thx for the help though :)
[22:04] <Chheap> th0r:  No just the normal touchpad
[22:04] <ikonia> welcome
[22:04] <uhgtt> worth enabling security on network connection tab ubuntu 11.04 neone?
[22:04] <Chheap> th0r:  It just doesnt recognize it as touchpad
[22:04] <th0r> Chheap: I am running debian on a dell d600 and I just tried it .... it works as advertised with TouchpadOff=1 and =0
[22:04] <th0r> Chheap: and I know it worked in 10.04, but moved to debian after that
[22:05] <uhgtt> or how to enable hardware acceleration on nvidia 8oo m card
[22:06] <Huffameg> i'm trying to get Window Picker to work with a click on the mouse, and I've set it to <BottomEdge>Button1 but it doesn't work. have I overlooked something here?
[22:06] <uhgtt> clam tk on 472 minutes for scan and counting.
[22:07] <joseircjose> is there a way to control the fan speed? make it spin faster?
[22:07] <th0r> uhgtt: you scanning the whole drive?
[22:07] <uhgtt> 64% done
[22:07] <uhgtt> i dont know if its scanning windows partition
[22:07] <uhgtt> 84 gbytes
[22:07] <io> !info qtfan | joseircjose
[22:07] <uhgtt> ubuntu has 30 somehting
[22:08] <io> joseircjose: take a look at that if you want a GUI, I've used it in the past
[22:08] <tsaknorris> hmm
[22:08] <acicula> ught what is your question about 802.1x settings?
[22:09] <uhgtt> i dont know whether to enable or not
[22:09] <uhgtt> it isnt by default in network settings console
[22:09] <uhgtt> and if i enable what option to use
[22:09] <uhgtt> md5
[22:09] <uhgtt> tls
[22:09] <uhgtt> tunnelled tls
[22:09] <acicula> uhgtt: dont need it
[22:09] <FloodBot1> uhgtt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <uhgtt> or protected eap
[22:09] <uhgtt> sorry
[22:10] <uhgtt> i taught myself to type with mavis beacon (touch type clever me ) :)
[22:10] <acicula> uhgtt: its scheme that lets you logon to networks using credentials instead of preshared keys
[22:10] <acicula> its a scheme
[22:10] <tsaknorris> sorry i see only now your text...i have to wait 5min that because network speed is B not KB :D
[22:10] <uhgtt> worth using?
[22:11] <tsaknorris> what there could be wrong
[22:11] <Varth> I installed the E17 desktop environment in Ubuntu 11.04 to try it out, and then switched back to Unity, and now the fonts for Facebook and reddit are different in all of my browsers.
[22:11] <acicula> uhgtt: only on large networks really
[22:11] <Varth> Does anyone know what could be wrong?
[22:11] <tsaknorris> this is fresh ubuntu install
[22:11] <Ryukoji> howdy chat
[22:11] <ledjo> hi, I've got this problem: if I don't use my notebook for some time and I don't close the lid, the screen saver starts and after ca. 5 min it freezes and I can do nothing but shut it down. I'm running xubuntu cause its older notebook and in xp which was installed prior, this did not happen. Any suggestions?
[22:11] <tsaknorris> Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[22:12] <tsaknorris> but ath9k just doesnt work for me :/
[22:12] <uhgtt> how do i turn on the 3d effects? when i move windows they dont wave arround. my nvidia is basic but can handle 3d acceleration so why is it now working? the driver says it is nivida x but that is something to do with a server isnt it? ooh im confused
[22:12] <tsaknorris> can i do some kind of diagnostic stuff
[22:12] <acicula> ledjo: if you disable the screen saver and/or screen blanking in the power-settings does it still crash?
[22:12] <tsaknorris> to pinpoint the problem
[22:12] <acicula> and how are you powering down when it freezes, does pressing the power button show something?
[22:13] <acicula> tsaknorris: you can check at what speed you are connecting using ifconfig or iwconfig in a console.
[22:13] <ledjo> if I disable screen saver it doesn't happen of course
[22:13] <acicula> tsaknorris: can you put your router in b/g only mode?
[22:13] <tsaknorris> yeah i did it already and put the result here
[22:13] <tsaknorris> no i cant
[22:13] <Antilect> Thoughts about 11.04?
[22:13] <ledjo> nothing happens if I just press the button but after 5 secs
[22:13] <qin> tsaknorris: Visit /var/log; kern.log, syslog, messages are the usual suspects.
[22:14] <Antilect> I'm a new user. I heard the old ones dislike it. I think it looks awesome :)
[22:14] <acicula> ledjo: that is not a given for me ;). So you tested it without the screensaver and then it does not crash?
[22:14] <Antilect> New though. Don't know what I'm missing out on.
[22:15] <ledjo> acicula that's right just with screen saver
[22:15] <uhgtt> well have some doubts about x86 architecture and y spark not more popular. also think micro kernels prob better and mint i think wonder y never took off
[22:15] <uhgtt> ha. got that all from wiki. i aint that clever. :)
[22:15] <acicula> ledjo: ehm. id have a look in the logfiles then, syslog and dmesg are probably the most interesting
[22:16] <uhgtt> monolithic kernels ah they? oh forgotten.
[22:16] <acicula> are you using any kind of drivers for the graphics card?
[22:16] <ledjo> no cause there aren't any, acicula
[22:16] <P3rks> anyone out there?
[22:16] <uhgtt> well it says nvidia x but thats to do with server stuff . r u talking to me
[22:17] <acicula> ughtt no log files or no drivers?
[22:17] <uhgtt> well it says driver installed
[22:17] <uhgtt> but no 4d effects like wavy windows
[22:17] <uhgtt> 3d
[22:17] <acicula> err im sorry i meant ledjo no log files or no drivers?
[22:17] <ledjo> I'm going to check my log files now, I meant there are no drivers, acicula
[22:17] <acicula> uhgtt: i think they come enabled by default
[22:17] <uhgtt> oh
[22:17] <iceroot> what is the common way to mark this bug as a security-issue? cant find an option for it  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwalletcli/+bug/802274
[22:18] <acicula> ledjo: yeah i figured :)
[22:18] <s_mahdi> hi
[22:18] <uhgtt> well will check it out.
[22:18] <acicula> uhgtt: i think its called appearances, if you type that in the unity start menu you should get a tool that lets you enable the wizzy effects
[22:18] <acicula> uhgtt: do you know what graphics card you have?
[22:19] <uhgtt> just one thing the commands for ubuntu are they called nething like a language name eg fortran c++ basic or whatever or just command programming
[22:19] <uhgtt> yes
[22:19] <uhgtt> its a basci nvidia g 8 200 m or something
[22:19] <s_mahdi> has anyone have any programs about mobile router and communicating with mobile phone in ubuntu 11.04?
[22:19] <uhgtt> with amd athlon x2 its a compaq presario ql 64
[22:19] <acicula> can you paste the output from lspci | grep VGA ?
[22:20] <uhgtt> sorry cq 60
[22:20] <tsaknorris> kernel log doesnt look good :/
[22:20] <acicula> s_mahdi: you can enable broadband via the networkapplet
[22:20] <Huffameg> i'm trying to get Scale aka Window Picker to work with a click on the mouse in the bottom of the screen. I've set it to <BottomEdge>Button1, just like i've done with earlier versions but it doesn't work now. anyone who can help??	
[22:20] <acicula> tsaknorris: can you put it on pastebin?
[22:21] <uhgtt> whats the ubuntu commands language called
[22:21] <tsaknorris> acicula, yes
[22:21] <s_mahdi> any suggestions?
[22:21] <tsaknorris> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/633236/
[22:21] <iceroot> uhgtt: bash
[22:21] <acicula> uhgtt: bash is the interpreter, but the commands are a mix of pgroams and bash
[22:21] <AbuMaia> I have an MKV video with bad subtitles. Is there an easy way to edit the subtitles to fix the errors?
[22:22] <uhgtt> r thanks.
[22:22] <uhgtt> is there a bash manual
[22:22] <iceroot> uhgtt: man bash
[22:22] <iceroot> uhgtt: also #bash
[22:22] <qin> s_mahdi: wammu, only think I know to communicate with phones (gammu for gui)
[22:22] <acicula> s_mahdi: please dont pm, keep your questions here
[22:22] <tsaknorris> acicula, and later comes: Jun 26 23:47:13 ojay-VPCEA1S1E kernel: [  477.107616] cfg80211: Disabling freq 2484 MHz
[22:22] <uhgtt> the last time i tried programming was with a speccy 48k in machine code and assembly so it scarred my brain slightly to ever try again ha
[22:23] <plouffe> uhgtt, when was that?
[22:23] <acicula> tsaknorris: no thats normal behaviour
[22:23] <uhgtt> early 80s  ha im old
[22:23] <jll> hi all
[22:23] <uhgtt> i remember basic
[22:23] <cmaxwell> hey jll
[22:23] <s_mahdi> acicula: but the problem is, that my phone gets turned off every 10 minutes or so!
[22:23] <PythonSnake> Hi
[22:24] <acicula> tsaknorris: its just telling you about which frequencies its using
[22:24] <plouffe> 48k is RAM?
[22:24] <uhgtt> yes
[22:24] <acicula> s_mahdi: when doing what?
[22:24] <plouffe> wow, interesting
[22:24] <uhgtt> actually i had a 16k b fore that
[22:24] <dc> hey ubuntu room!! Installed ubuntu 11 today and am very happy!!!
[22:24] <uhgtt> my friend had a dragon
[22:24] <uhgtt> ha
[22:24] <jll> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 because windows had a lot of trouble. Now I'm suppose to voice chat with my girlfriend with MSN messenger, Does Linux have a messenger that I can do that with?
[22:24] <s_mahdi> acicula: using mobile broadband networking
[22:25] <qin> uhgtt: I guess sh have not changed much since then.
[22:25] <PythonSnake> jll: Pidgin
[22:25] <AbuMaia> jll: emesene I think, don't know if it has video chat
[22:25] <cmaxwell> does empathy do that?
[22:25] <uhgtt> i just remember lots of memory  memory registers but not much. basic wasnt too bad
[22:25] <uhgtt> or visual basic if i remember
[22:25] <PythonSnake> jll: or Emphaty
[22:25] <uhgtt> machine code was nuts but they used to program in that for speed
[22:25] <acicula> s_mahdi: so you can connect to the internet using your phone? But after 10 minutes your telephone shutsdown completely or does the connection just get terminated, be specific
[22:26] <uhgtt> of the poor old zilog z80 to process so as not to have to buffer and interpret high end language
[22:26] <s_mahdi> acicula: it shuts down completely
[22:26] <uhgtt> if i remember correctly
[22:26] <tsaknorris> acicula,  hmmm anyway Link Quality=47/70 <-- so it isnt even 47/100 :D
[22:26] <tmowad> if I'm getting an infinite redirect and its not the server's fault (e.g. it doesn't do that on any other computers), what could the issue be?  i emptied cookies and dns cache in the browser...so i'm stumped?
[22:26] <AcidRain> how do i determine what username a certain service runs under?
[22:26] <AcidRain> in this case, im trying to determine what user apache is running under
[22:26] <acicula> s_mahdi: how is the phone connecting to your computer?
[22:26] <uhgtt> y dont people use assembly or machine code now for speed?
[22:27] <jll> pythonsnake, do they offer voice chat? I know pidgin doesn't or emphaty or amsn. I've tried a lot of them and none of them offer voice or video chat. I don't want to go back to windows just for that.
[22:27] <Flecks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23224/rc-local-is-not-always-executed-upon-boot << any ideas about this problem, i have the same with ubuntu 11.04 server, my /etc/rc.local is not always executed on boot... and i think some more services from /etc/init.d also :(
[22:27] <s_mahdi> acicula:  bu usb cable
[22:27] <plouffe> AcidRain, maybe "sudo ps"
[22:27] <s_mahdi> acicula: by usb cable
[22:27] <AbuMaia> jll skype has video/voice chat
[22:27] <acicula> AcidRain: there is a taskmanager similar to the one in windows, or you can use "ps uafx" in a console to list running processes
[22:27] <AbuMaia> I have an MKV video with bad subtitles. Is there an easy way to edit the subtitles to fix the errors?
[22:28] <DippieDoo> Any way to format my main drive to NTFS using ubuntu?
[22:28] <uhgtt> if i wanted to pick up programming again and make a program for linux what language is the best to learn
[22:28] <uhgtt> what are the apps written in
[22:28] <PythonSnake> jll: jopete
[22:28] <PythonSnake> jll: kopete*
[22:28] <uhgtt> is it c++
[22:28] <ninjah> Is there a reason to have MySQL with snort?
[22:28] <ozyxen> uhgtt: c
[22:28] <foul_owl> personally I like c++, and a ton of apps are written in c or c++
[22:29] <Tadpole_Jackson> what package do i want to get from the repo in order to get proper media codec playback?
[22:29] <acicula> whats the easiest way to get a look at someones log, is there tool in ubuntu for that these days?
[22:29] <jll> abumaia, I know but she can't download and install it because she is using a public computer with permissions.
[22:29] <DippieDoo> Again, how do i format my main drive to NTFS using ubuntu? :)
[22:29] <foul_owl> how do i kill a non responding file copy operation
[22:29] <ledjo> what can you see in dmesg.0, acicula?
[22:29] <acicula> s_mahdi: what brand of phone are you using? and do you know how to paste logfilse on pastebin?
[22:29] <ledjo> :)
[22:29] <uhgtt> how hard compared to basic. cant be harder than assembly neway. is there an app to make other apps without programming skills ha
[22:29] <qin> DippieDoo: Is it Natty?
[22:29] <PythonSnake> jll: kopete
[22:29] <acicula> ledjo: sorry what?
[22:30] <DippieDoo> qin : I think so.
[22:30] <PythonSnake> !kopete | jll
[22:30] <jll> I tried that one too pythonsnake and the same issue
[22:30] <dc> how do I set this to irc.p2p-network.net?
[22:30] <dc> #demonoid
[22:30] <ozyxen> uhgtt: best advice; just begin
[22:30] <foul_owl> learning c and c++ were fantastic experiences, pick up a book or look online
[22:30] <uhgtt> wonder if the apple app designer thing could be ported over to work on linux
[22:30] <s_mahdi> acicula: Sony Ericcson P990i,no I don't know the thing you said!
[22:30] <tsaknorris> acicula, ping was now 525ms :P
[22:30] <ledjo> in dmesg I don't know what happened and when it happened..
[22:31] <astrozombie> i just installed LInux Mint 11 but I don't see it in the boot menu, does anyone know what i add to the grub boot menu.lst so that an option for Linux Mint 11 appears when I boot up?
[22:31] <DippieDoo> qin : Any idea how?
[22:31] <hasenj> help please: every time I connect the iphone I get a whole bunch of boxes spamming me about how it can't mount it .. even though it *is* mounted
[22:31] <dejmien666> Hello everybody.
[22:31] <jll> I have to say that Linux rocks, but it sucks when it comes to messenging. pidgin is the only one that lets me in yahoo chat, but again, no voice so I can't hear anything or talk. sucks!
[22:32] <uhgtt> now theres one for the suggestion box. an easy app designer like for the smart phones. no need for programming skills. that would boost linux
[22:32] <hasenj> jll, try ubiqq.com for video/voice chat (flash)
[22:32] <plouffe> hasenj, I get false mount messages with my ipod as well, I just ignore them
[22:32] <ozyxen> uhgtt: check out: qt creator
[22:32] <Kateon> jll: you could try skype
[22:32] <dejmien666> If you are programming in XNA it's even easier...
[22:32] <uhgtt> oh boo. already done ha
[22:32] <BajK> why do the new language updates install firefox packages as well? o.O
[22:32] <dejmien666> But it's kinda lame and sukcs.
[22:32] <uhgtt>  will check it though ta
[22:33] <acicula> s_mahdi: i cant find any known problems with that brand/model of phone, does the problem also occur if you try connecting from another computer?
[22:33] <qin> DippieDoo: palimpset
[22:34] <DippieDoo> qin : ?
[22:34] <jll> hasenj, will that site work without a camera but just to voice chat with MSN?
[22:34] <DriversFixed> Ubuntu Unity gets the dubious distinction of being the first OS to crash on my computer!
[22:34] <PythonSnake> jll: phone her
[22:34] <PythonSnake> lol
[22:35] <acicula> tsaknorris: ehm are you sharing your internet connection with anyone? you can use iwconfig to set your network speed to something lower, start at 1Mbit and work your way up
[22:35] <DriversFixed> Windows Vista ran perfectly fine; Ubuntu died on its first boot from a hard drive in about 3 hours of use
[22:35] <julian_> DriverFixed then close session and start again with gnome or ubuntu classic
[22:35] <acicula> tsaknorris: also check if your wifi accesspoint supports tweaking power levels or disabling of mixed mode
[22:35] <s_mahdi> acicula: haven't tried it but I have managed to solve it by connecting the phone to power supply,but with out the power supply it turns off.
[22:35] <DriversFixed> julian_ - how do I close session
[22:35] <DriversFixed> is that short for hold in power button?
[22:35] <s_mahdi> acicula:  thank you for your time and help mate.
[22:35] <acicula> s_mahdi: hang on
[22:35] <PythonSnake> julian_ how to go to gnome ?
[22:36] <tsaknorris> acicula, im not sharing it ( ihave WPA key) ok
[22:36] <acicula> s_mahdi: do you have multiple usb ports on your laptop?
[22:36] <jll> lol phthonsnake, I do everyday and it costs. this is only for a few more months until we are back together, so I may just go to windows again just for that.
[22:36] <s_mahdi> acicula: 3 usb ports
[22:36] <DippieDoo> Again, how do i format my main drive to NTFS using ubuntu? :)
[22:36] <s_mahdi> acicula: why?
[22:36] <iceroot> DippieDoo: easiest way is using gparted
[22:36] <tsaknorris> acicula, now the mode is: managed
[22:36] <iceroot> !gparted | DippieDoo
[22:36] <acicula> s_mahdi: try every port,  sometimes only a few ports are rated for the maximum power
[22:37] <julian_> DriversFixed Click right top in Off button & select close session. Then restart selecting Ubuntu classic
[22:37] <DippieDoo> Okay, thank you
[22:37] <PythonSnake> jll: use wine or virtual box :D
[22:37] <s_mahdi> acicula: ok
[22:37] <jll> how do you install live messenger using wine on Linux?
[22:37] <DriversFixed> julian_ that was also unresponsive
[22:38] <s_mahdi> acicula: I'll try it and let you know the result the next time,is it ok with you?
[22:38] <DriversFixed> julian_ to be perfectly honest, that was my fault, I was messing with ccsm settings, trying to make my computer prettier
[22:38] <acicula> tsaknorris: no by mode i meant the wifi protocol setting, like b,g or n
[22:38] <PythonSnake> !wine | jll
[22:38] <acicula> s_mahdi: thats fine, it might not work, but maybe you get lucky as it seems your problem has to do with power
[22:38] <tsaknorris> acicula, aaah that one.
[22:38] <DippieDoo> iceroot : How do i do so using gparted? It is my main drive, so i cannot unmount it.
[22:38] <julian_> DriversFixed theres no problem if you fuck your desktop
[22:38] <julian_> go /home
[22:39] <iceroot> julian_: watch your language please
[22:39] <DriversFixed> go /home?
[22:39] <julian_> and then press ctrl+h to watch hidden files
[22:39] <brian_lim> hi: not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know of a mysql tutorial which shows how to install multiple, standalone instances of mysql from source which does not install a background daemon
[22:39] <julian_> then erase genome files and desktop is back to original
[22:39] <DriversFixed> in the terminal?  How do I open the terminal if the entire computer except for firefox is unresponsive
[22:39] <iceroot> DippieDoo: so you want to replace ubuntu? or why do you want to format the whole drive with ntfs?
[22:39] <julian_> iceroot i speak spanish
[22:39] <ozyxen> DippieDoo: why the .. would you want to format it to ntfs?
[22:39] <plouffe> DippieDoo, try http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[22:39] <acicula> brian_lim: that sounds overly complicated
[22:39] <hasenj> jll, ubiqq.com works without any messenger, it generates a temp url, you share it with a friend, they open it and you can talk to them in the browser
[22:39] <iceroot> julian_: and we dont like bad words here, doesnt matter what your foreing language is
[22:40] <acicula> brian_lim: and pretty out of scope for ubuntu help
 try ctr+alt+T
[22:40] <brian_lim> basically my idea is to install many different mysql instances maybe on a usb key so I can use different ones for different purposes
[22:40] <iceroot> DippieDoo: or do you only want to format a partition with ntfs and the rest with ubuntu?
[22:40] <julian_> lol
[22:40] <julian_> sry
[22:40] <brian_lim> acicula: ok nvm, thx
[22:40] <acicula> brian_lim: you can just create different databases, but wouldnt you be better off using sqlite
[22:40] <jll> ah ok thanks hasenj, I'll check that out.
[22:41] <DriversFixed> bah.  I have a suggestion for unity:  why don't they apply a blur to the windows before shrinking it for the window preview effect
[22:41] <brian_lim> acicula: ok I will look at that, thx
[22:41] <ikonia> DriversFixed: tell unity then, not ubuntu
[22:41] <acicula> how do i enable ipv6 for samba
[22:41] <DippieDoo> iceroot : I have Gparted installed already. What i want to do is format to ntfs so i can install Windows 7. Don't rage at me, i love Ubuntu, but it's not very well suited for my gaming purposes
[22:41] <iceroot> DippieDoo: win7 can format the drive with ntfs too
[22:41] <DriversFixed> ikonia:  I did say I have a suggestion for unity, not ubuntu
[22:42] <qin> brian_lim: You do not install many mysql, just create databases (or even users for it).
[22:42] <iceroot> DippieDoo: you dont need to do it with ubuntu first
[22:42] <ikonia> DriversFixed: yet you told #ubuntu
[22:42] <ikonia> asshole: please change your nick name
[22:42] <DriversFixed> well, I don't know where else to say it :s
[22:42] <ashole2> need help
[22:42] <ozyxen> DippieDoo: you can dualboot windows and ubuntu, and use windows for your toyish needs
[22:42] <ikonia> ashole2: please change your nick
[22:42] <DriversFixed> ashole2, change nick.
[22:42] <ozyxen> ole ash
[22:42] <IdleOne> thank you
[22:42] <changednick> back
[22:43] <changednick> hi
[22:43] <brian_lim> qin: okay thx
[22:43] <DippieDoo> iceroot : Apparently i had to, as it did not give me an option for formatting.
[22:43] <iceroot> DippieDoo: hm strange
[22:43] <iceroot> DippieDoo: to do it with ubuntu, use a live-cd and then run gparted from that
[22:43] <cool> hi
[22:43] <Chheap> U have to delete the partition first in windows 7 install then make a new partition and format it
[22:43] <Chheap> If i remember right
[22:43] <iceroot> DippieDoo: or see ##windows, i cant imagin windows is not offering something like that
[22:44] <DippieDoo> Iceroot : Yes, i though so too. Is it any way i can do it without using a live cd?
[22:44] <iceroot> DippieDoo: no
[22:44] <Chheap> DippieDoo: Make sure u go to the manual install when u start it
[22:44] <DippieDoo> Chheap : I'll take a wider look. thanks.
[22:45] <DippieDoo> Iceroot : Okay, appreciate the help sir.
[22:45] <jll> Question. Theres empathy, pidgin, kopete, amsn, emesene, kmess and sim-im. Why doesn't either one of them support voice or video chat? is it like a copy right problem or something?
[22:46] <Chheap> jll: Empath and pidgin supports atleast
[22:47] <changednick> hi people
[22:47] <changednick> can i help you
[22:47] <st3in> has anyone had issues with i7 950 cpu frequencies in 11.04
[22:47] <Chheap> jll: Although it might depend on protocol u are using
[22:47] <jll> I use to go into yahoo chat a lot until I started using Linux because I can't voice chat or hear what's going on.
[22:47] <Chheap> jll: example google talk video chat works fine
[22:47] <Guest68877> hi alll
[22:48] <Guest68877> hi all
[22:48] <wears_Fedora> I'm having a printing issue with Xubuntu, should I seek their channel?
[22:48] <st3in> I'm OC'ed to 4.2 ghz but the system seems to max out around 2.70 ghz under full cpu stress
[22:48] <AcidRain> ok this is killing me. i have the group root, user acidrian, i have changed the permissions on chpasswd and it still wont change the password of an account...
[22:48] <AcidRain> it says permission denied
[22:49] <Guest68877> nick
[22:49] <jll> I'm going to try ayttm. but it looks like it's going to suck like the other ones lol. sorry that was mean I know.
[22:49] <cmaxwell> ziyadb, where can I get a shell like yours?
[22:49] <acicula> st3in: what do you mean max out?
[22:49] <qin> AcidRain: admin group for sudo
[22:49] <st3in> all syst monitor programs always output 2.79.  never 4.2
[22:49] <AcidRain> so group should be admin, not root? :/
[22:50] <ozyxen> jll: you're missing one I think, Jitsi. (used to be known as SIP Communicator)
[22:50] <qin> AcidRain: Adding users to root group is not best idea, unless...
[22:50] <jll> chheapk. MSN on here shows that I'm using port 1869
[22:51] <AcidRain> well its for my webserver. im trying to configure the squirrelmail plugin change passwd
[22:51] <AcidRain> and im getting 126 error permissions denied
[22:51] <jll> 1863 my bad
[22:51] <Chheap> jll: What program are u trying on
[22:51] <cmaxwell> +
[22:51] <acicula> st3in: can you execute <cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz> and paste the output. paste without the fishhooks
[22:51] <jll> ayttm
[22:51] <evelyette> hi
[22:52] <evelyette> where can I find the pam_mkhomedir or something similar in ubuntu?
[22:52] <evelyette> why is that package no longer available
[22:52] <Sub_Zero> lol spam protection
[22:52] <Chheap> jll: havent tried that one, but if u go to pidgin -> plugins there is a plugin for voice and video settings if that would help
[22:52] <qin> AcidRain: Dont you have cpanel?
[22:52] <DriversFixed_> Ok I get it now; don't touch compiz settings with unity unless you want to be really badly messed up
[22:53] <AcidRain> i dont have cpanel
[22:53] <st3in> acicula:     cpu MHz		: 1596.000
[22:53] <DriversFixed_> Another crash, and CTRL ALT T didn't launch terminal either
[22:53] <jll> ok let me install it and I'll try it
[22:53] <Sub_Zero> Currently if I set my panels to expand any active window will stop when it reaches the panel. Is it possible to let the active window appear beneath a panel?
[22:53] <ozyxen> jll: If you use the protocol XMPP, you can use video and audio with Jitsi. Check it out.
[22:53] <acicula> st3in: how high is it supposed to go on stock settings
[22:53] <st3in> acicula: 3.07ghz
[22:54] <acicula> st3in: could be its just applying cpu frequency scaling, try disabling that in the bios?
[22:54] <BajK> !paste
[22:54] <BajK> thx ubottu :P
[22:54] <jll> I don't see jitsi in the ubuntu software center
[22:54] <st3in> acicula: if I load the system it steps up to 2.79
[22:54] <qin> AcidRain: Dont know squirrelmail at all. What apssword you intend to change?
[22:55] <ozyxen> jll: www.jitsi.org, I can't remember which version is in the Ubuntu repositories, and it might be called sip-communicator or something like that.
[22:55] <acicula> st3in: yaeh so its dynamically scaling the frequency
[22:55] <Chheap> jll: u could try empathy also
[22:55] <Chheap> jll: u should have it by default
[22:55] <subten_tar> hello how do i connect to another irc channel?
[22:56] <cmaxwell> like another server?
[22:56] <qin> subten_tar: /join #channel_nanme
[22:56] <Chheap>  /join #
[22:56] <st3in> acicula:  Will do.  I'm overclocking using a Dynmaic vcore, should I get rid of that?
[22:56] <subten_tar> yeah like #networking
[22:56] <subten_tar> i dont get this
[22:56] <Chheap> start with /
[22:56] <cmaxwell> type /join #wikipedia-en
[22:56] <subten_tar> thanks works
[22:56] <acicula> st3in: you are not having stability issues, so msesing with voltage wont change things
[22:57] <st3in> acicula: I was thinking more of intel speedstep (iest)
[22:57] <diytto> When I try to ssh my laptop it gives me permission denied. How can I fix this to ssh
[22:58] <Chheap> Ubuntu has quickey for moving active window to left or right virtualscreen right?
[22:58] <oneliner> hello there, am looking for ways to install an epson tx100 (multifunctional) and was hoping to find reference to a single link for it, or some advice in the channel
[22:58] <Nobgul-bnc> diytto, need to check you ssh config file and make sure you are allowing connections
[22:58] <Chheap> virtualdesktop*
[22:58] <acicula> st3in: eh you can disable the software frequency scaling
[22:58] <qin> diytto: firewall?
[22:58] <diytto> Nobgul-bnc: Where is that
[22:58] <diytto> qin: I havent enabled anything, its all default
[22:58] <acicula> st3in: whats the output of cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[22:58] <Nobgul-bnc> etc/sshd/sshd_config
[22:58] <AcidRain> qin: im just trying to set it up so a user can change his assigned password to a private password
[22:58] <Nobgul-bnc> oops
[22:58] <qin> diytto: Do you run ssh server somwhere?
[22:58] <Nobgul-bnc> etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:59] <AcidRain> i know apache is running under acidrain, because when i goto system > admin > services, it lists apache2
[22:59] <diytto> qin: What do you mean?
[22:59] <MrDeadhead> hi, i cant get more then 1 workspace setup.
[22:59] <diytto> Nobgul-bnc: Ill look
[22:59] <qin> diytto: Did you install ssh server?
[22:59] <Nobgul-bnc> ok
[22:59] <st3in> acicula:  2793000 2660000 2527000 2394000 2261000 2128000 1995000 1862000 1729000 159600
[22:59] <diytto> qin: Maybe. Let me look
[22:59] <Nobgul-bnc> diytto, type whereis ssh
[22:59] <acicula> st3in: ok so 2.7Ghz is as high as it will go
[23:00] <qin> AcidRain: Well, where password are saved?
[23:00] <Nobgul-bnc> diytto, type whereis sshd
[23:00] <st3in> acicula: I thought of that.  but I can't seems to be able to change the available frequencies
[23:00] <AcidRain> hmmmm.... good question
[23:00] <AcidRain> lol
[23:00] <acicula> st3in: id start by disabling dynamic frequency scaling in the bios, and then see what your processor runs at
[23:00] <qin> diytto: sudo service ssh status
[23:01] <AcidRain> qin: when i run the command manually in terminal, im actually getting the error: current password not correct
[23:01] <MrDeadhead> Preferences only allow me to have 1 desktop workspace.
[23:01] <st3in> acicula: If it any consolation I can load into windows and everything works perfect... at the OC'ed speeds
[23:01] <diytto> qin: Hold on, brother is on right now
[23:01] <AcidRain> so i believe you are right, the passwords are saved in the wrong location perhaps
[23:01] <jll> ok, now which version of wine to I need to install msn messenger?
[23:01] <Chheap> Can someone help me make  ctrl + shift + alt + left /right. move the active window on another workspace on xubuntu
[23:01] <qin> AcidRain: What command?
[23:02] <Chheap> I know it does it default on ubuntu
[23:02] <acicula> st3in: im guessing the frequency scaling manager does not clock your cpu higher then stock speed
[23:02] <salva> ola alemanes de mierdaaa
[23:02] <Allnight888> !list
[23:02] <rypervenche> Chheap: Change it in the keyboard shortcuts.
[23:02] <Aginor> jll, are you dead set on running the real msn messanger instead of one of the native IM clients on linux?
[23:02] <AcidRain> ......plugins/change_passwd/chpasswd' 'kitty' 'kitty1' 'kitty2' 'kitty2'
[23:02] <acicula> st3in: so if you want 4.2Ghz in ubuntu youd have to either fix that or disable speedstep
[23:02] <AcidRain> lol
[23:02] <rypervenche> jll: Use Pidgin.
[23:02] <Chheap> rypervenche:  I dont know the command for it
[23:02] <dixsonhoepp> hello world
[23:02] <rypervenche> Chheap: Let me show you what mine looks like
[23:02] <Aginor> jll, empathy should be installed already
[23:03] <subten_tar> what is a good proxy for ubuntu?
[23:03] <MrDeadhead>  AcidRain,  Preferences only allow me to have 1 desktop workspace.
[23:03] <Chheap> rypervenche:  i can swap workspaces with ctrl + alt + arrow but cant move the active window
[23:03] <jll> yes because none of the Linux versions support voice/video chats. I tried them all!!
[23:03] <chewyTree> Hey guys, Quick question.  Anyone know if the top unity panel is customizable? same with the icons
[23:03] <st3in> acicula:  Sounds like killing speedstep is the simple answer.  I'll give it a shot.  thanks for the help!
[23:03] <rypervenche> Chheap: Have you disabled the old one that do it?
[23:03] <chewyTree> and by that, i mean just resizing
[23:03] <salva> world tu BIEJAAA!!!
[23:03] <AcidRain> well no actually, the passwords arent stored in the wrong location. i know this because i can log into the squirrelmail server
[23:03] <rypervenche> jll: Use Skype then.
[23:03] <dixsonhoepp> I have a question and no longer do, q be some of you have played the game heroesmu
[23:03] <dixsonhoepp> ubuntu .. know how to install ubuntu, that configuration is needed
[23:03] <diytto> qin: Heh, i didn't have ssh installed :/
[23:03] <acicula> st3in: np
[23:03] <m4v> !ops | salva is insulting in spanish
[23:03] <MrDeadhead> chewyTree,  get comfity
[23:04] <Chheap> rypervenche:  No im running xubuntu, and it doesnt do it here by default
[23:04] <qin> AcidRain: ok, does other user can log in too?
[23:04] <rypervenche> Chheap: Let me check. I run Xfce as well.
[23:04] <jll> ok I see I'm going around in circles. anyway, thanks all for your input and help.
[23:04] <jpds> salva: A ver.
[23:04] <AcidRain> yes, all of my current 5 users can login
[23:04] <dixsonhoepp> MU-ONLINE
[23:04] <Nobgul-bnc> diytto, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:04] <chewyTree> MrDeadhead, Just relating to a bug.  Guy wants to know if he can resize the top panel and icons easily
[23:04] <LjL> salva: what makes you think this is the place to insult?
[23:04] <AcidRain> non can change passwords :(
[23:04] <diytto> Nobgul-bnc: I got it, thanks :)
[23:04] <MrDeadhead> srry
[23:04] <Nobgul-bnc> =)
[23:04] <qin> AcidRain: If yes, then either location with passwords have wrong permission, of plugin itself.
[23:05] <tsaknorris> acicula, i solved it...my kernel was 38.8 now i have 38.10 now it works :)
[23:05] <AcidRain> i have done everything. only instructions was to change permissions to 4750
[23:05] <chewyTree> MrDeadhead, So im assuming now, until a more stable release, you cant do it easily
[23:05] <jillsmitt> m4v: and...?
[23:05] <AcidRain> hmmm. i see what your saying.
[23:05] <AcidRain> i just have to locate the passwords
[23:05] <tsaknorris> acicula, but i have other problem. i have to now start every time ath9k module manually :/  modprobe -i ath9k
[23:05] <qin> AcidRain: Rather, proper docs for squirrel
[23:05] <LjL> jillsmitt: and, insulting is not appreciated in this channel
[23:06] <MrDeadhead> chewyTree, i dont know about indicators, i use comfity to customize unity panel
[23:06] <AcidRain> is it safe to change the permissions on stored pass files?
[23:06] <jillsmitt> LjL: i must leave it?
[23:06] <MrDeadhead>  AcidRain,  Preferences only allow me to have 1 desktop workspace, can you help?
[23:06] <subten_tar> does anyone know a good place to learn about the linux terminal
[23:06] <LjL> jillsmitt: uh... if you intend to insult anyone, then please do leave instead. otherwise, no.
[23:06] <qin> AcidRain: propably not.
[23:07] <chewyTree> MrDeadhead, Thanks
[23:07] <acicula> tsaknorris: are you installing custom kernels or moduls?
[23:07] <AcidRain> MrDeadhead, id check for a better gfx card, what model do you have?
[23:07] <MrDeadhead> AcidRain,  aTI HD 3700
[23:07] <rypervenche> Chheap: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19330159/Random/show.png
[23:07] <eipi-1> hi, i am unable to manually boot an ecryptfs home-directory from one ubuntu installation on another. i read articles about creating new encrypted folders but i dont get how to mount an old one.
[23:07] <MrDeadhead> powerfull
[23:07] <qin> subten_tar: What do you want to know?
[23:07] <tsaknorris> acicula, i had to install only that pre-released update.. so no nothing own or custom stuff
[23:08] <salva> GILIPOLLAS HIJOS DE LA GRAN BRETAÑA
[23:08] <jillsmitt> LjL: i just want to read all and learn
[23:08] <AcidRain> i see
[23:08] <qin> AcidRain: What database using squirrelmail?
[23:08] <acicula> tsaknorris: ah ok, glad its working :)
[23:08] <tsaknorris> acicula, before this i tried isolate problem so i made blacklist.conf this line (but now i dont have it anymore) and still it doesnt find my ath9k :/
[23:09] <tsaknorris> acicula, yeah everything works! but i want that ath9k will load by it self when i start my pc
[23:10] <acicula> tsaknorris: not sure what the convention for that is, but maybe adding it to /etc/modules will work?
[23:11] <th0r> tsaknorris: the blacklist will prevent a module from loading....put the line in /etc/modules instead
[23:11] <Guest16233> hey guys. running steam over wine is really strange. it behaves slow, 'avoids' my mouse - has anyone had this? and do they know how to fix it?
[23:11] <zeroedout> guest, what video card do you have?
[23:11] <th0r> tsaknorris: if I remember right...all you need to add to that file is the name of the module....ath9k
[23:11] <Chheap> rypervenche:  thx, but seems it doesnt work that way
[23:12] <tsaknorris> th0r, yeah..ok i reboot now :)
[23:12] <rypervenche> Chheap: Are you using Compiz?
[23:12] <Chheap> rypervenche: no
[23:12] <TeamColtra> I want to connect a device to my Ubuntu machine via the eithernet cable... and provide it access from my wireless connection (from my laptop)... is that possible?
[23:13] <OerHeks> !ics
[23:13] <zeroedout> guest16233: what video card are you using?
[23:13] <TeamColtra> in ascii thats WIFI ) ) ) LAPTOP <-> Xbox
[23:13] <TeamColtra> thanks OerHeks
[23:13] <Guest16233> zeroedout: nvidia, geforce 260. it's the same with both the binary blob and nouveau though?
[23:13] <zeroedout> If it's an ati card, you SOL. If it's nvidia, make sure you're on the latest proprietary driver
[23:14] <rypervenche> Chheap: What is it doing when you try?
[23:14] <zeroedout> guest: no, nouveau will not work as good
[23:14] <Guest16233> zeroedout: sure, but with the binary blob it's equally crap :P
[23:14] <zeroedout> guest: also try the *latest* version of wine, not what's available in the ubuntu repo
[23:14] <Guest16233> zeroedout: i'll check which version i'm using :)
[23:14] <Chheap> rypervenche: u mean the settings or?
[23:14] <zeroedout> wine 1.2 may work... but the latest usually has good improvments
[23:15] <zeroedout> you can get the latest code from winehq.org and look in the ubuntu section for easy to install packages
[23:15] <rypervenche> Chheap: What happens when you try the key combination? And what key combination are you using?
[23:15] <zeroedout> guest: also disable any compositing, don't use unity or gnome3. use classic gnome with no effects
[23:15] <Chheap> rypervenche:  nothing happens, and im trying the ctrl shift alt let /right
[23:16] <zeroedout> if you're on kde go to system settings and disable the desktop effects
[23:16] <Guest16233> zeroedout: 11.04, using unity, which is annoying given the whole compiz dependance!
[23:16] <Guest16233> i'll try classic gnome
[23:16] <Chheap> Should xubuntu run on compiz by default?
[23:17] <coz_> Chheap,  compiz should run well on xfce
[23:17] <Guest16233> zeroedout: i'm using 1.3.23
[23:17] <TeamColtra> OerHeks (or anyone): Would that dramtically effect my connection? Obviously any time you add a link in the chain it adds to the ping, and reduces speed... but as long as I am not running anything active on my laptop then the connection should be pretty similar?
[23:17] <Guest52143> שלום
[23:17] <TeamColtra> (sorry thats if I share my internet connection from my laptop)
[23:17] <zeroedout> guest: it is almost guaranteed that unity is your problem, go to classic gnome iwth no effects for anything 3d releated (probably even movies on most systems)
[23:17] <AcidRain> qin: to double check, what ps mode do i use to determine what user a service is running under?
[23:17] <rypervenche> Chheap: I believe it does. Either check in the compiz settings using compizconfig-settings or whatever it is called., or change to metacity.
[23:17] <Chheap> coz_: Just did a fresh install on notebook and i cant figure howto turn it on. (worked on ubuntu)
[23:18] <Guest52143> האובונטו החדש מסובך. אני אפילו לא יודע אם מפעילים את הלוח בקרה
[23:18] <coz_> Chheap,  ok open a terminal    compiz --replace  ccp & disown
[23:19] <coz_> Chheap,   also be sure you installed  compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:19] <Chheap> coz_: yeah seems its not even installed.
[23:20] <coz_> Chheap,  ah ok
[23:20] <rypervenche> Chheap: Install it, because compiz is on your computer but you can't change any of the settings without that.
[23:22] <Wiesshund> does ccsm no longer function?
[23:22] <Chheap> okay its installed now
[23:23] <qin> AcidRain: ps u
[23:24] <jll> ok I'm back with another issue! I installed ubuntu 10 and the visual effect are active but I don't see the options to edit the effect or use the cube. what's up with that?
[23:24] <Wiesshund> ok upgraded to 11.04 none of compiz seems to actualy function? no more rotating cube etc. that normal?
[23:25] <coz_> Wiesshund,  well you can enable the cube in Unity,, do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[23:26] <qin> AcidRain: ps -u <user> or ps aux
[23:26] <coz_> Wiesshund,  by default the Desktop wall is enabled not the cube
[23:27] <coz_> 2 floodbots?
[23:27] <green91> 3
[23:27] <nellwee> why wont ubuntu allow executing file as a program from my cd rom?
[23:28] <tiago> Wiesshund: yep, but there are ways to re-activate the cube, just google it
[23:28] <Guest40483> hi all
[23:28] <coz_> Wiesshund,  if you want the cube let me know
[23:29] <Chheap> okay this is weird... not even compiz were installed on xubuntu
[23:30] <Guest40483> I have a problem to upgrade my Xubuntu to the new version from the last version... nothing appened when I click on upgrade my version (french version)
[23:30] <rypervenche> Chheap: I don't know. I don't use Xubuntu so I can't really say. (I'm on Debian with Xfce)
[23:30] <Guest40483> do you have the same problem ?
[23:30] <jll> it all sucks, I'm going back to windows tomorrow. I'm just in the chat now just to see if maybe there is hope. lol
[23:30] <coz_> Chheap,   there is a way to get compiz installed completely with a script
[23:30] <Guest16233> jll: what sucks?
[23:30] <Guest16233> all of it?
[23:30] <rypervenche> Guest40483: Tu veux de l'aide en français ?
[23:30] <Chheap> coz_:  could it be that this happened because i used the alternative install disc
[23:30] <coz_> Chheap,  unlikely
[23:31] <Guest16233> jll: if you want to configure compiz, install compiz config settings
[23:31] <coz_> Chheap,  however   you may want to try the minimal install cd  next time
[23:31] <Chheap> just wondering what else i might be missing
[23:31] <coz_> Chheap,  on that you can choose  xubuntu,, kubuntu ..gnome and other options
[23:31] <Chheap> coz_: No i had to use alternative install to get the encryption lvm
[23:32] <coz_> Chheap,   you can do that with  minimal as well
[23:32] <Wiesshund> tiago i turned on cube in CSSM seems that does not work anymore though?
[23:32] <Wiesshund> i miss my emerald transparent glass themes too :(
[23:32] <Chheap> coz_:  yeah gotta try next time. I just hate reinstalling this
[23:32] <taraduffy> Hello! I am suddenly having trouble booting my system "an error occured while mounting" - can anyone talk me through recovery please?
[23:33] <coz_> Wiesshund,   first   disable desktop wall then enable Desktop cube   rotate cube and viewport swticher,, HOWEVEr,, if you get a conflct dialog "ignore" it
[23:33] <coz_> Wiesshund,   renable Unity plug if it disables
[23:34] <Chheap> is there a way to check if im missing packages  or programs after a fresh install?
[23:34] <taraduffy> . .using 11.04
[23:34] <coz_> Chheap,   in terminal   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:35] <Chheap> coz_:  everything seems to be ok
[23:35] <Nobgul-bnc> Can you install openvz on a live server, or do you need to do it on a fresh install?
[23:35] <Wiesshund> coz_ yea i have all those set like that. not a darned thing works though
[23:35] <DriversFixed_> can anyone recommend a good ubuntu app for managing sound sources and outputs
[23:35] <Chheap> coz_: still i feel like i miss some settings on appearance and keyboard
[23:35] <coz_> Wiesshund,   in terminal  unity --reset & disown
[23:36] <DriversFixed_> I want to listen to music on my headphones while my brother watches movies through monitor speakers
[23:36] <jll> why is it that everybody that has a computer problem expects there "friend" to fix it for free, then if they want to charge they get mad?
[23:36] <jll> their
[23:36] <coz_> jll,  I charge all the time
[23:36] <Will123456> jll: get richer friends
[23:36] <Somelauw> Hi, I am trying to change the background of my gnome-terminal to a png image, but for some reason it doesn't show my background.
[23:36] <DriversFixed_> jill, if they didn't state up front that they were going to charge, then issues occur
[23:36] <Nobgul-bnc> J11, I still charge them minimal ammount $5 or $10 they get tired of paying and learn ..
[23:37] <jll> mmm good ideal will123456
[23:37] <coz_> Nobgul-bnc,   how large is the image?
[23:37] <Phosphenes> How do I kill a running process. I tried doing ps -A | grep amarok and then kill 8202 (the job ID for amarok) but it's still running frozen.
[23:37] <jll> it's hard to sore like eagles if you live with turkeys right?
[23:37] <Will123456> jll: i've stopped helping my friends unless they let me install ubuntu. well, that or if they pay me
[23:37] <coz_> Nobgul-bnc,  try t his one    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/teminal%20image/ubuntu1.svg
[23:37] <Chheap> jll: u got the videochat working+
[23:37] <Chheap> ?*
[23:38] <Nobgul-bnc> coz_, Basically I have 2 1tb hard drives I want to Install openvz on the first drive but have all of the vps's live on the 2nd driue. Assign the openvz a set
[23:38] <jll> ubuntu with all it's problems, I would loose my business. lol
[23:38] <Nobgul-bnc> I'lll look
[23:38] <taraduffy>  I am suddenly having trouble booting my system "an error occured while mounting" - can anyone talk me through recovery please?
[23:38] <Will123456> jll: oh yeah from all that money you've been making? :P
[23:38] <Nobgul-bnc> lol hrmm
[23:38] <th0r> Will123456: isn't forcing someone into ubuntu something like forcing someone to use windows?
[23:38] <Somelauw> Does gnome-terminal have a problem with png images?
[23:38] <coz_> Nobgul-bnc,  sorry wrong nick
[23:38] <Will123456> th0r: you're right, maybe i should do without the wrist straps and the hot poker
[23:38] <Nobgul-bnc> no wowrries
[23:39] <coz_> Somelauw,  how large is that image?
[23:39] <Somelauw> coz_: 575.0KB
[23:39] <Will123456> th0r: i don't force anyone :P if they don't want ubuntu or don't want to pay me, they can find someone else to fix their computer
[23:39] <jll> ubuntu is fine as longs as they don't use voice/videos chats or a photographer.
[23:39] <coz_> Somelauw,  I meant in resolution,, but try this image to see if it works       http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/teminal%20image/ubuntu1.svg
[23:39] <DriversFixed_> or use multiple monitors
[23:39] <qin> Somelauw: You mean background?
[23:40] <jll> I put Linux Mint on a photographer's computer because his harddrive won't let windows install.
[23:41] <jll> now he can't get his video camera to load the files on the computer via firewire.
[23:41] <Somelauw> coz_: 926 * 780
[23:41] <coz_> Somelauw,  ok that is not large at all
[23:41] <Somelauw> qin: background of gnome-terminal, yes
[23:41] <Will123456> jll: i did the same and it worked fine, firewire and all
[23:41] <coz_> Somelauw,  can you upload that image...let me test here
[23:41] <qin> Somelauw: Did you try to use jpg, or scale it down?
[23:41] <jll> so needless to say he got mad and took it somewhere else that could install windows for him. I guess pirated copy because I would have to buy the real disk.
[23:42] <rypervenche> What's the command to upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the CLI?
[23:42] <Somelauw> coz_: http://designerwallcoverings.com/WallpaperStore/images/Noa1125 - skulls black on grey.png
[23:42] <flash_> Good day people. I'm having some problems with a USB external HDD. It won't show in Windows' My Computer, and also won't mount in Ubuntu. The error it gives is "$Logfile indicates unclean shutdown". I have managed to fix this by issueing a forced mount. I do not have ubuntu at my disposal right now, so my question is if there is any way to fix this problem from windows?
[23:42] <Will123456> jll: tell him not to get mad, tell him to get on with his life (or get one, then get on with it)
[23:42] <coz_> Somelauw,  I am getting a  "forbidden"  on that lin k
[23:42] <jll> rypervenche... in the update manager, there is the options to upgrade, but I don't recomend it
[23:42] <psusi> flash_, run chkdsk/scandisk on it
[23:42] <lyczkowski> Hi
[23:43] <rypervenche> jll: I'm looking for the command line command, not the GUI.
[23:43] <qin> Somelauw: Me too
[23:43] <jll> he was a cheap skate anyway because he didn't want to pay me.
[23:43] <flash_> chkdsk hangs when executed on the drive.
[23:43] <lyczkowski> I got xfce .  how make icons apear on desktop with full name?
[23:43] <psusi> flack, hangs?  how long did you wait?
[23:44] <flash_> psusi: quite a few minutes.
[23:44] <Somelauw> sorry, the complete link is: http://designerwallcoverings.com/WallpaperStore/images/Noa1125%20-%20skulls%20black%20on%20grey.png
[23:44] <flash_> It can't access the HDD.
[23:44] <psusi> flash_, how do you know?
[23:44] <Will123456> rypervench: apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:44] <jll> isn't chkdsk only for windows? or does it work in ext3 as well?
[23:44] <aidalgol> What version of Ubuntu is closest to Debian squeeze?
[23:44] <psusi> jll, yes, it is for windows
[23:44] <Will123456> rypervench: apt-get --help to check out the other options
[23:45] <Somelauw> My browser automatically changes spaces back to %20 or something
[23:45] <taraduffy> I am having trouble booting van anyone help?
[23:45] <lyczkowski> Anyone got xfce here?
[23:45] <th0r> aidalgol: that is sort of like asking which Mustang is closest to a Corvette
[23:45] <Will123456> *rypervenche: err, got your name right this time: apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:45] <rypervenche> Will123456: Would sudo aptitude install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade work as well?
[23:45] <jll> I know it's for windows but he is in a linux help chat, that's why I was asking, I am a noob to linux. but an expert (just a technician) in windows.
[23:46] <Will123456> rypervenche: i have no idea. try it then let me know :P
[23:46] <yeats> !fsck | jll
[23:46] <psusi> jll, he said he was currently on windows, and you must use windows to check ntfs..
[23:46] <lyczkowski> Anyone can help me? :D
[23:47] <Chheap> Now I have installed compiz and everything ... now none of my hotkeys work.. not even alt+tab
[23:47] <aidalgol> th0r: I just want to know which release to pick from this repo for my Debian squeeze system: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[23:47] <Sterist> is it important to use sudo instead of gksudo when installing via terminal?
[23:47] <Somelauw> coz_: sorry, the complete link is: http://designerwallcoverings.com/WallpaperStore/images/Noa1125%20-%20skulls%20black%20on%20grey.png
[23:47] <coz_> Sterist,  sudo for installing  gksudo for opening an gui app
[23:48] <coz_> Somelauw,  ok ,,, hold on let me try it here
[23:48] <lyczkowski>  I got xfce .  how make icons apear on desktop with full name?
[23:48] <jll> how do I drag my window over to the next desktop?? it won't let me do it or give me options in the effects.
[23:49] <qin> Somelauw: You could cut tile out of this, since background in gnome-terminal is treated as tile.
[23:49] <Will123456> jll: tried it in the workspace switcher view?
[23:49] <coz_> Somelauw,  ok open the terminal  Edit/profile preferences/Background... turn the opacity slider  down  to see the image  although it is a dark image
[23:49] <Wiesshund> hmm, it's looking like a format and reinstall of 10.10. nothing graphically is working in 11.04
[23:49] <jll> and where do I find that at?
[23:50] <qin> jll: Did you try: Alt-Space ?
[23:51] <jll> qin I can do it manually but I used to be able to just drag it and the "cube" would show and move it to the next desktop. all the options for that are gone.
[23:52] <coz_> Wiesshund,  try the minimal install cd  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:53] <jll> has anybody in here used metis antix Linux? I have installed on my other computer. now it's really a pain to try to get something working.
[23:53] <Chheap> Is there a way to use xubuntu default theme with compiz. For some reason i have clearlooks theme and i cant chance it
[23:57] <AcidRain> qin: when i run the comamnd you gave me, it shows like 8 apache2 services
[23:57] <AcidRain> when i run it for root user only, it shows 1
[23:57] <AcidRain> where are the others? can i look them up by id?
[23:57] <jeeves_moss> how can I get mutt to send a premade e-mail (including an attachment) to a list of people that it reads from a txt file?  I'm not using this fro SPAM BTW, it's to e-mail a preformance report that's generated by another script
[23:57] <taraduffy> I have "an error occurred while mounting" -  anyone can help me through it?
[23:59] <uhgtt> am i still here
[23:59] <uhgtt> aha
[23:59] <Wiesshund> any reason that 11.04 starts up saying Xbuntu and shuts down saying Kbuntu ?