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GridCubeI for one vote NO to midori until a bookmark bar is available01:13
=== Soupermanito is now known as GridCube
charlie-tcaGridCube: preferences -> sidebar01:42
charlie-tcaturns on bookmarks on the left side01:43
charlie-tcaand then, if you want, Preferences -> extensions, bookmarks01:43
charlie-tcaadds a start to the taskbar to turn bookmarks on and off01:43
charlie-tcaoops01:43
charlie-tcamenu -> sidebar01:44
charlie-tcaturns bookmarks on01:44
GridCubebut sidebar is really anoying :/01:46
charlie-tcabut it is bookmarks01:52
charlie-tcaFrom #xubuntu on June 25:01:53
charlie-tcagNewPower | It is so wonderful to be back to a well designed, rational, desktop manager, file manager, setting application ,etc. Xubuntu is pure joy for me   01:53
GridCube:D01:58
GridCubenice01:58
GridCubealso trying the last greybird, whit tiny arrows, it is awesome, a lot moew awesome than whitout arrows01:58
charlie-tcaYeah, I been using it too. Not sure the tiny arrows won't become a point of contention, since users might not even see them, but time will tell.02:06
charlie-tcaAt least now firefox is happy with the scrollbars, which are really neat!02:06
GridCube:D but if there where no arrows then even more people would come saying "Since installing x i've lost the arrows on my windows why?" but now we can tell them, they are there bro02:08
charlie-tcayes, true. Also, firefox doesn't like not having arrows02:12
GridCubeyes, ochosi said so, neither does libreoffice02:12
charlie-tcayup02:13
charlie-tcaWe shall see what happens with it. 02:13
GridCube:D02:14
mr_pouithttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-June/003569.html maybe we could go back to file-roller then12:39
charlie-tcafile-roller in Oneiric recommends gvfs, which should be okay14:06
spongedaddyhello all15:37
spongedaddyin the last meeting there was mention of a need to work on xubuntu documentation.15:37
spongedaddyis there still such a need?15:38
spongedaddyi'd be happy to devote a couple of hours a week to it.15:50
charlie-tcayes, there is16:09
charlie-tcaWe need to update the areas of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu to match our current release and applications16:09
charlie-tcaWe also need to insure our documentation included in the release matches 16:10
charlie-tcaspongedaddy: do you know how to edit the wiki?16:10
spongedaddynot yet :)16:13
charlie-tcaGood time to learn?16:13
spongedaddyseems to be16:13
charlie-tcaWe use mallard for the documentation, outside the wiki16:14
spongedaddyok -- i guess i need to look that up16:15
charlie-tcaIt is pretty much just editing the pages, and the help in the wiki is good16:15
charlie-tcaboth https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing and16:16
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax 16:16
charlie-tcaare good resources for it. It doesn't take too much of a learning curve for this. and, all changes can be reverted. Everything is backed up every change.16:17
charlie-tcaI can actually revert 90 days ago or more if need be.16:19
charlie-tcaThe current release is Natty Narwhal, 11.0416:19
charlie-tcaOur development release is Oneiric Ocelot, and these change every six months16:20
charlie-tcawiki.ubuntu.com is the developers wiki, it is not usually pointed to for users16:20
* charlie-tca finally got weechat to show "away" nicks in the nicklist16:21
spongedaddyok - good - thanks16:22
spongedaddywill have a look at those links16:22
spongedaddyi'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu 16:24
spongedaddyanything specific that needs attention?16:24
charlie-tcaAny references to the end of life releases needs fixing.16:25
charlie-tcaI haven't looked at most of the pages in a while, myself16:25
charlie-tcaxfce is now 4.8, if anything mentions it16:26
micahgcharlie-tca: just reminding you again, I probably will not be at the meeting tomorrow16:27
charlie-tcaThanks, micahg 16:28
charlie-tcaany updates to development, firefox, or thunderbird to mention?16:28
micahgThunderbird 5 final will probably hit oneiric soon16:28
charlie-tcaspongedaddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Wiki16:32
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Wiki/ToDo16:35
charlie-tcaI think are both out of date, too16:35
spongedaddyok -- i'll take a look at the ToDo list 16:38
spongedaddyand see if there are any that are doc-centric 16:39
charlie-tcaThat should be the docs todo list, actually16:40
spongedaddyok -- poking around now -- thanks!16:46
pleia2this conversation reminded me to get the email out about more content review for the actual site ;)16:47
charlie-tcaspongedaddy: more docs at the website needing to be looked at:16:52
charlie-tcahttp://xubuntu.org16:53
charlie-tcawe need to look at all the pages and update them. We do those updates by writing the page and asking pleia2 where to put it to have it updated.16:53
pleia2my email about it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-June/007840.html16:54
spongedaddyok -- i'm game16:55
charlie-tcaKind of an evolving process, huh?16:56
spongedaddyhowever, i may need a hint knowing what is 'accurate' and 'complete' 16:56
spongedaddyyes - documentation and processes, like software, are always evolving :)16:57
charlie-tcaWe will try to answer when we can16:57
spongedaddygroovy16:58
charlie-tcaaccurate meaning doesn't include old applications, old releases, references that have been deleted16:58
charlie-tcacomplete being includes current releases, applications we now use, and actual details where needed for an explanation16:59
spongedaddyso everything should be current re Natty, correct?16:59
charlie-tcaSometimes we get in a hurry, and don't actually tell the reader anything16:59
charlie-tcayes, natty16:59
charlie-tcaunless referring to lts, and then it is lucid16:59
spongedaddyso i guess i need to register with launchpad to get started editing17:14
Unit193Is there already/going to be an installed programs list?17:59

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