[01:13] I for one vote NO to midori until a bookmark bar is available === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube [01:42] GridCube: preferences -> sidebar [01:43] turns on bookmarks on the left side [01:43] and then, if you want, Preferences -> extensions, bookmarks [01:43] adds a start to the taskbar to turn bookmarks on and off [01:43] oops [01:44] menu -> sidebar [01:44] turns bookmarks on [01:46] but sidebar is really anoying :/ [01:52] but it is bookmarks [01:53] From #xubuntu on June 25: [01:53] gNewPower | It is so wonderful to be back to a well designed, rational, desktop manager, file manager, setting application ,etc. Xubuntu is pure joy for me [01:58] :D [01:58] nice [01:58] also trying the last greybird, whit tiny arrows, it is awesome, a lot moew awesome than whitout arrows [02:06] Yeah, I been using it too. Not sure the tiny arrows won't become a point of contention, since users might not even see them, but time will tell. [02:06] At least now firefox is happy with the scrollbars, which are really neat! [02:08] :D but if there where no arrows then even more people would come saying "Since installing x i've lost the arrows on my windows why?" but now we can tell them, they are there bro [02:12] yes, true. Also, firefox doesn't like not having arrows [02:12] yes, ochosi said so, neither does libreoffice [02:13] yup [02:13] We shall see what happens with it. [02:14] :D [12:39] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-June/003569.html maybe we could go back to file-roller then [14:06] file-roller in Oneiric recommends gvfs, which should be okay [15:37] hello all [15:37] in the last meeting there was mention of a need to work on xubuntu documentation. [15:38] is there still such a need? [15:50] i'd be happy to devote a couple of hours a week to it. [16:09] yes, there is [16:09] We need to update the areas of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu to match our current release and applications [16:10] We also need to insure our documentation included in the release matches [16:10] spongedaddy: do you know how to edit the wiki? [16:13] not yet :) [16:13] Good time to learn? [16:13] seems to be [16:14] We use mallard for the documentation, outside the wiki [16:15] ok -- i guess i need to look that up [16:15] It is pretty much just editing the pages, and the help in the wiki is good [16:16] both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing and [16:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax [16:17] are good resources for it. It doesn't take too much of a learning curve for this. and, all changes can be reverted. Everything is backed up every change. [16:19] I can actually revert 90 days ago or more if need be. [16:19] The current release is Natty Narwhal, 11.04 [16:20] Our development release is Oneiric Ocelot, and these change every six months [16:20] wiki.ubuntu.com is the developers wiki, it is not usually pointed to for users [16:21] * charlie-tca finally got weechat to show "away" nicks in the nicklist [16:22] ok - good - thanks [16:22] will have a look at those links [16:24] i'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [16:24] anything specific that needs attention? [16:25] Any references to the end of life releases needs fixing. [16:25] I haven't looked at most of the pages in a while, myself [16:26] xfce is now 4.8, if anything mentions it [16:27] charlie-tca: just reminding you again, I probably will not be at the meeting tomorrow [16:28] Thanks, micahg [16:28] any updates to development, firefox, or thunderbird to mention? [16:28] Thunderbird 5 final will probably hit oneiric soon [16:32] spongedaddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Wiki [16:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Wiki/ToDo [16:35] I think are both out of date, too [16:38] ok -- i'll take a look at the ToDo list [16:39] and see if there are any that are doc-centric [16:40] That should be the docs todo list, actually [16:46] ok -- poking around now -- thanks! [16:47] this conversation reminded me to get the email out about more content review for the actual site ;) [16:52] spongedaddy: more docs at the website needing to be looked at: [16:53] http://xubuntu.org [16:53] we need to look at all the pages and update them. We do those updates by writing the page and asking pleia2 where to put it to have it updated. [16:54] my email about it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-June/007840.html [16:55] ok -- i'm game [16:56] Kind of an evolving process, huh? [16:56] however, i may need a hint knowing what is 'accurate' and 'complete' [16:57] yes - documentation and processes, like software, are always evolving :) [16:57] We will try to answer when we can [16:58] groovy [16:58] accurate meaning doesn't include old applications, old releases, references that have been deleted [16:59] complete being includes current releases, applications we now use, and actual details where needed for an explanation [16:59] so everything should be current re Natty, correct? [16:59] Sometimes we get in a hurry, and don't actually tell the reader anything [16:59] yes, natty [16:59] unless referring to lts, and then it is lucid [17:14] so i guess i need to register with launchpad to get started editing [17:59] Is there already/going to be an installed programs list?