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unitysuckshello00:18
unitysucksi hate unity , but i love ibintu , could i get gnome 2 on ubuntu 11.0400:18
Omegaunitysucks: that's unfortunate, but this is not a support channel, try #ubuntu00:29
chewyTreeOmega, Are you able to set this as a wishlist item for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/77908800:31
ubot5Ubuntu bug 779088 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity's top panel's size" [Undecided,New]00:31
OmegaNo, but I did add ayatana design to the bug, so they can look at it.00:33
chewyTreeOmega, Ok thanks.  What do you recommend i set as the status, opinion?00:34
OmegaDid you report the bug?00:34
Omega(If you did, you shouldn't change it)00:35
chewyTreeno i didnt, just caught my eye00:36
chewyTreeOmega, Ill just set it to opinion, and then when someone comes on later ill ask for the importance to be set to wishlist00:38
chewyTreeOmega, Thanks for the help though.00:39
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wes000000how do i use bazaar?01:39
andyrockmorning people!08:23
thumperhi andyrock08:29
andyrockthumper, hey08:29
thumperandyrock: sprinting this week, so I'll be in your TZ for a change08:30
andyrockthumper, dublin right?08:30
thumperyep08:31
thumperI'm just closing up for now, back in approx 90 minutes - morning plenaries and all08:31
andyrockthumper, i miss UDS environment! :)08:32
andyrockbye bye... i'have to go! (school exam)09:48
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mgedminindicator-datetime-preferences fails to start because of some unspecified dbus timeout; is there something I can do to file a useful bug?11:40
mgedmin"(indicator-datetime-preferences:17172): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."11:40
mgedminapparently I already have a copy of indicator-datetime-preferences, started 15 minutes ago, which is not showing any windows or doing anything11:41
mgedminstrace tells me it's blocked on a futex11:42
mgedminkilling it works and lets new indicator-datetime-preferences processes start up11:42
* mgedmin can't reproduce, gives up trying to make unity better, at least for today11:44
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GigatrollHow can I delete Unity?13:03
GigatrollI hate it13:03
andyrockGigatroll, don't like it? just don't use it13:04
cdbsGigatroll: Your nick ends with "troll" so we took your statement as a troll attempt :D13:05
cdbsandyrock: Use gnome-panel (select gnome classic session), or use gnome-shell from the gnome3-team PPA13:05
cdbsandyrock: use kde by installing kubuntu-desktop, use xfce by installing xubuntu-desktop or use lxde by installing lubuntu-desktop. With ubuntu you have a ton of choices, just pick one13:06
Gigatrollcdbs: Thanks13:06
cdbsGigatroll: what do you hate in Unity? Could you please elaborate?13:06
GigatrollI can't find my apps, the dock gets in the way, i can't find the admin or preferences menu13:07
Gigatrolland it doesn't seem to respect my metacity tweak to have the window icons on the right13:08
cdbsGigatroll: you have System Settings in the shutdown menu13:08
Gigatrollah ok, I see... but why are they there?13:08
cdbsGigatroll: finding apps is easier with the applications lense, I find it faster to find apps, it just needs a bit of getting used to13:08
Gigatrollso I need to type?13:08
andyrockcdbs, i don't hate unity... i am helping with bitesize and backlog bugs!13:09
andyrock;)13:09
cdbsandyrock: oops, mistake, blame the inability to multitask in the human brain :)13:09
cdbsandyrock: do a /whois of me and you'll understand how I know you and how you know me :)13:10
andyrockandyrock, i know you! Bilal (i don't know if it is the right way to write it!)13:10
cdbsandyrock: now you've made a mistake by mentioning yourselves13:11
cdbsGigatroll: yeah, you need to type13:12
cdbsGigatroll: but its faster than nudging through menus13:12
cdbsMUCH faster13:12
cdbsand lesser irritating13:12
cdbsGigatroll: all I do is hit the super key, type the first few letters of the name and press enter13:12
andyrockcdbs, ops... i have just finished an exam!13:12
cdbsGigatroll: no need to get to the mouse and back on the keyboard. Everything can be done with the keyboard13:13
cdbsGigatroll: and if you like to do things with the mouse, well, right-click the applications lense icon and select a category to be listed with apps13:13
Gigatrollcdbs: It misses one key usecase though13:22
GigatrollA pretty important one in my view13:22
cdbswhich is?13:22
GigatrollWhat if I simply wanted to see what was installed?13:22
GigatrollNow I know I could probably do this using the software centre but what if I was new to Ubuntu?13:23
cdbsGigatroll: click on the applications lense icon, click "Show all" next to "installed applications" and there you have it, a grid of icons (not like iOS' , though) which contains icons of all applications13:23
GigatrollOk13:24
GigatrollWell this is good to know13:24
GigatrollI've been using Ubuntu for 5 years now and I felt out of my depth13:24
cdbsGigatroll: Dig in deep, spend some time with things, and you'll like it a lot. I hate people who say no on the first impression13:25
cdbsGigatroll: I agree unity doesn't give a very good impressing in the beginning, but once you get used to it, you won't leave it13:25
Gigatrollmmm but it did feel like a big change with very little warning13:25
cdbsgive it a week's time, and you'll find yourself pressing super+number keys in windows :D13:25
Gigatrollyes that's true, people are saying they should've "introduced" it better13:26
cdbsChange is inevitable13:26
cdbs10 years ago computers were a luxury, now they're a necessity13:27
cdbsyou need to be able to do things faster13:27
cdbs</offtopic>13:27
GigatrollWell I'll have to give it another go tomorrow then13:28
lucazadehi! quick question: will applet-indicators work with new gnome-panel based on gtk3?13:45
cdbslucazade: They might work one day, but not right now13:46
cdbslucazade: And I don't think that making them work with it, is an aim for oneiric13:47
cdbsgotta go13:47
lucazadecdbs: thanks for info..13:47
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jo-erlendwhen I used super+num to switch an application on another workspace, it used to focus that workspace. That no longer happens here. Is that by design?14:48
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TheMusoKaleo: I'm just building your unity s3 a11y snapshot on Oneiric, and will test tomorrow morning or tonight if I get a chance, hoewver I would like to talk to you about the launcher, and a few things I'd like to do to convey the state of launcher icons textually.17:47
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