unitysucks | hello | 00:18 |
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unitysucks | i hate unity , but i love ibintu , could i get gnome 2 on ubuntu 11.04 | 00:18 |
Omega | unitysucks: that's unfortunate, but this is not a support channel, try #ubuntu | 00:29 |
chewyTree | Omega, Are you able to set this as a wishlist item for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/779088 | 00:31 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 779088 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity's top panel's size" [Undecided,New] | 00:31 |
Omega | No, but I did add ayatana design to the bug, so they can look at it. | 00:33 |
chewyTree | Omega, Ok thanks. What do you recommend i set as the status, opinion? | 00:34 |
Omega | Did you report the bug? | 00:34 |
Omega | (If you did, you shouldn't change it) | 00:35 |
chewyTree | no i didnt, just caught my eye | 00:36 |
chewyTree | Omega, Ill just set it to opinion, and then when someone comes on later ill ask for the importance to be set to wishlist | 00:38 |
chewyTree | Omega, Thanks for the help though. | 00:39 |
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wes000000 | how do i use bazaar? | 01:39 |
andyrock | morning people! | 08:23 |
thumper | hi andyrock | 08:29 |
andyrock | thumper, hey | 08:29 |
thumper | andyrock: sprinting this week, so I'll be in your TZ for a change | 08:30 |
andyrock | thumper, dublin right? | 08:30 |
thumper | yep | 08:31 |
thumper | I'm just closing up for now, back in approx 90 minutes - morning plenaries and all | 08:31 |
andyrock | thumper, i miss UDS environment! :) | 08:32 |
andyrock | bye bye... i'have to go! (school exam) | 09:48 |
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mgedmin | indicator-datetime-preferences fails to start because of some unspecified dbus timeout; is there something I can do to file a useful bug? | 11:40 |
mgedmin | "(indicator-datetime-preferences:17172): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." | 11:40 |
mgedmin | apparently I already have a copy of indicator-datetime-preferences, started 15 minutes ago, which is not showing any windows or doing anything | 11:41 |
mgedmin | strace tells me it's blocked on a futex | 11:42 |
mgedmin | killing it works and lets new indicator-datetime-preferences processes start up | 11:42 |
* mgedmin can't reproduce, gives up trying to make unity better, at least for today | 11:44 | |
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Gigatroll | How can I delete Unity? | 13:03 |
Gigatroll | I hate it | 13:03 |
andyrock | Gigatroll, don't like it? just don't use it | 13:04 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: Your nick ends with "troll" so we took your statement as a troll attempt :D | 13:05 |
cdbs | andyrock: Use gnome-panel (select gnome classic session), or use gnome-shell from the gnome3-team PPA | 13:05 |
cdbs | andyrock: use kde by installing kubuntu-desktop, use xfce by installing xubuntu-desktop or use lxde by installing lubuntu-desktop. With ubuntu you have a ton of choices, just pick one | 13:06 |
Gigatroll | cdbs: Thanks | 13:06 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: what do you hate in Unity? Could you please elaborate? | 13:06 |
Gigatroll | I can't find my apps, the dock gets in the way, i can't find the admin or preferences menu | 13:07 |
Gigatroll | and it doesn't seem to respect my metacity tweak to have the window icons on the right | 13:08 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: you have System Settings in the shutdown menu | 13:08 |
Gigatroll | ah ok, I see... but why are they there? | 13:08 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: finding apps is easier with the applications lense, I find it faster to find apps, it just needs a bit of getting used to | 13:08 |
Gigatroll | so I need to type? | 13:08 |
andyrock | cdbs, i don't hate unity... i am helping with bitesize and backlog bugs! | 13:09 |
andyrock | ;) | 13:09 |
cdbs | andyrock: oops, mistake, blame the inability to multitask in the human brain :) | 13:09 |
cdbs | andyrock: do a /whois of me and you'll understand how I know you and how you know me :) | 13:10 |
andyrock | andyrock, i know you! Bilal (i don't know if it is the right way to write it!) | 13:10 |
cdbs | andyrock: now you've made a mistake by mentioning yourselves | 13:11 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: yeah, you need to type | 13:12 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: but its faster than nudging through menus | 13:12 |
cdbs | MUCH faster | 13:12 |
cdbs | and lesser irritating | 13:12 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: all I do is hit the super key, type the first few letters of the name and press enter | 13:12 |
andyrock | cdbs, ops... i have just finished an exam! | 13:12 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: no need to get to the mouse and back on the keyboard. Everything can be done with the keyboard | 13:13 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: and if you like to do things with the mouse, well, right-click the applications lense icon and select a category to be listed with apps | 13:13 |
Gigatroll | cdbs: It misses one key usecase though | 13:22 |
Gigatroll | A pretty important one in my view | 13:22 |
cdbs | which is? | 13:22 |
Gigatroll | What if I simply wanted to see what was installed? | 13:22 |
Gigatroll | Now I know I could probably do this using the software centre but what if I was new to Ubuntu? | 13:23 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: click on the applications lense icon, click "Show all" next to "installed applications" and there you have it, a grid of icons (not like iOS' , though) which contains icons of all applications | 13:23 |
Gigatroll | Ok | 13:24 |
Gigatroll | Well this is good to know | 13:24 |
Gigatroll | I've been using Ubuntu for 5 years now and I felt out of my depth | 13:24 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: Dig in deep, spend some time with things, and you'll like it a lot. I hate people who say no on the first impression | 13:25 |
cdbs | Gigatroll: I agree unity doesn't give a very good impressing in the beginning, but once you get used to it, you won't leave it | 13:25 |
Gigatroll | mmm but it did feel like a big change with very little warning | 13:25 |
cdbs | give it a week's time, and you'll find yourself pressing super+number keys in windows :D | 13:25 |
Gigatroll | yes that's true, people are saying they should've "introduced" it better | 13:26 |
cdbs | Change is inevitable | 13:26 |
cdbs | 10 years ago computers were a luxury, now they're a necessity | 13:27 |
cdbs | you need to be able to do things faster | 13:27 |
cdbs | </offtopic> | 13:27 |
Gigatroll | Well I'll have to give it another go tomorrow then | 13:28 |
lucazade | hi! quick question: will applet-indicators work with new gnome-panel based on gtk3? | 13:45 |
cdbs | lucazade: They might work one day, but not right now | 13:46 |
cdbs | lucazade: And I don't think that making them work with it, is an aim for oneiric | 13:47 |
cdbs | gotta go | 13:47 |
lucazade | cdbs: thanks for info.. | 13:47 |
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jo-erlend | when I used super+num to switch an application on another workspace, it used to focus that workspace. That no longer happens here. Is that by design? | 14:48 |
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TheMuso | Kaleo: I'm just building your unity s3 a11y snapshot on Oneiric, and will test tomorrow morning or tonight if I get a chance, hoewver I would like to talk to you about the launcher, and a few things I'd like to do to convey the state of launcher icons textually. | 17:47 |
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