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gener1chey08:56
gener1ci have a prodege r835 laptop and it keeps on freezing then the fan goes crazy08:57
gener1ci read online that i need to upgrade from the kernel i got on 11.04 which was 6.38 to 6.3908:58
gener1cvut i still have the same issue08:58
gener1cits rc4-gener1c08:58
gener1cbtw08:58
saammhello can something like this can be done to ubuntu one where we directly record and upload screenshots and screencasts to ubuntu one http://www.guidingtech.com/6757/create-share-screenshots-screencasts-simpleshare-box-net/09:17
popeysaamm: ges09:17
popey*yes09:17
saammpopey, how to do that?09:17
popeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~sil/+junk/sssss09:18
popeySil wrote something to do it with screenshots09:18
saammwow super cool09:19
saammany possibility this will be added to ubuntu one as added functionality?09:20
popeyyou'd have to ask the ubuntu one guys that09:20
popeythey hang out in #ubuntuone09:20
saammmany thanks09:20
popeynp09:20
popeyalso09:20
popeyhave you seen kazam?09:20
popeyit has an upload to youtube button09:20
saammyep09:21
popeymakes it very easy to share videos09:21
popeyi guess that could be modified to plop your vid in your ubuntu one storage09:21
saammyeah right...it just read the article and thought that the workflow would be really smooth if ubuntuone had this functionality by default09:22
popeyyeah, i agree09:22
gener1chey , had a little reboot09:32
gener1ci use a toshiba r835 brancd new ,it keeps on freezing after random long periouds of time being on and then the fan goes to max spin gradually (goes up every 2 seconds in spin speed till it hits max and stays there)09:34
gener1cthe ubuntu memtest option on bootup from harddrive causes the same effect immidiately when initiated09:34
gener1cdoesnt happen when i run memtest from a livecd09:34
gener1cnor will it happen when i idle in win709:35
gener1cubuntu version == generic 39-rc409:35
gener1ckernel version*09:35
gener1c64bit09:35
gener1clooked all over the net09:36
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xskydevilxSpeaking of Ubuntu, I tried the Ubuntu 11.10 daily builds, and when trying to run them live, the GUI disappears and the "terminal" alike appears. Why is this happening, and what's the command to restart the GUI (or to resume it)?11:52
ikoniaxskydevilx: why are you running development builds if you can't do basic debugging ?11:53
xskydevilxikonia, Why shouldn't I?11:53
ikoniaxskydevilx: because it's a development release that has many problems, and if you have no idea how to debug issues, you are wasting time11:54
zniavregood afternoon11:54
ikoniaxskydevilx: there is no "support" for these builds11:54
zniavreanyone got error with libmtp9 ?11:54
ikoniazniavre: in what respect ?11:54
xskydevilxikonia, Whatever.11:55
zniavredpkg : erreur de traitement de libmtp-runtime (--configure) :11:55
ikoniaxskydevilx: no problem then.11:55
ikoniazniavre: is that package in main ?11:56
xskydevilxikonia, Obviously11:56
zniavreyes it is11:56
ikonianzmm: can you manually install libmtp-runtime ?11:56
zniavreit removes vlc  that s ok now thank you12:00
ikoniacool12:00
zniavrethat was maybe the worrie12:00
ikonialooks like a minor issue with the remove part of the confiugre options12:00
zniavreat least i can update now without error messages12:00
zniavrethank you answering12:00
ikoniano problem12:01
yofelI filed bug 802456 about that12:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 802456 in libmtp (Ubuntu) "libmtp9 failed to upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_libmtp.py', which is also in package libmtp8 1.0.6-7 (dup-of: 802469)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80245612:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 802469 in libmtp (Ubuntu) "package libmtp9 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_libmtp.py', which is also in package libmtp8 1.0.6-7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80246912:02
ikoniayofel: perfect12:02
yofelah, dup ^^12:02
ikoniaworth closing the duplicate12:04
elrosgnome shell is now migrating to 3.2 packages, so expect a bumby ride12:21
BluesKajHiyas13:31
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smoserafter suspend i'm presented with a blank grey box that would provide the password prompt, but doesnt take input15:58
smoseris that a known bug ?15:58
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gnomefreakhas update-manager been fixed yet? it was/is crashing with a btrfs error16:21
BluesKajgnomefreak, does btrfs handle the new 3.0-1 kernel yet ?16:29
yofelWFM16:30
BluesKajhey yofel16:31
gnomefreakBluesKaj: not sure i dont have btrfs16:31
yofelbtrfs worked fine with all 3.0 kernels, although I think there was some bad patch in -rc116:31
yofelI had no issues so far at least16:32
mvognomefreak: I uploaded a fix this morning (some hours ago)16:32
yofelat least none that were caused by 3.016:32
gnomefreakbut it seems update-manager code checks for btrfs16:32
gnomefreakmvo: thanks16:32
* yofel doesn't use update-manager ^^16:32
mvognomefreak: yeah, the check was broken, that should be fixed with the new upload, it should be working now16:32
BluesKajyofel, you're right on the edge of the edge :)16:33
gnomefreaki got in a crap load of trouble  and a lot of work using apt16:33
yofelBluesKaj: sure, it's boring otherwise :P16:33
gnomefreakmvo: thanks i have the prompt looking at me atm16:33
gnomefreakis gtk3 still in transition?16:35
BluesKajyofel, btw that dependency conflict command you posted the other worked for on some ffmpeg dependency problems the other day too... very habdy16:36
BluesKajday16:36
BluesKajeerr handy16:36
BluesKajdamn bifocals ...16:37
gnomefreaklooks like there are still a few gtk2 being installed on upgrade16:37
charlie-tcaIs that what causes that?16:37
* charlie-tca thought it was a bad keyboard16:38
BluesKajwe'll, back to the lawn mowing  ...later folks16:38
gnomefreakanyone notice if you install a clean ubuntu system and upgrade to ~ you end up with a few/bunch of libqt*16:39
gnomefreaki get the feeling it has to do with fglrx but not sure16:39
BluesKaj.16:42
gnomefreak2.6.39 is not shown in upgrade :)16:46
gnomefreakeven search doesnt show a new kernel. anyone have 2.6.39 atm?16:49
gnomefreakok did we change the way the kernels are listed?16:51
gnomefreakok this is odd linux-generic-pae: Installed: 2.6.38.8.22 Candidate: 3.0.0.1.216:52
gnomefreakoh wait we are skipping 2.6.39 its just the alpha page wasnt updated16:52
gnomefreakok here goes nothing. ill be back when its done i hope16:53
protimorning17:01
protioneiric bug I noticed : vgchange at initrd boot just hangs.17:03
protivgscan is ok, but issuing vgchange -a y just hangs.17:03
protiThis break the boot with kernel >= 3.0.17:04
mvognomefreak: sorry for that trouble, you got the btrfs error? what state is the machine currently?17:06
Milos_SDHi17:22
Milos_SDHow can I make Unity on Oneiric to work on VirtualBox?17:22
Milos_SDI installed guest additions, but compiz doesn't want to start...17:22
Milos_SDsome extension is missing17:22
Milos_SDglx extension17:23
gnomefreakmvo: the btrfs error is gone, atm i have about 54 minutes left for upgrade17:43
gnomefreakmvo: thanks again for fixing it17:43
mvognomefreak: great, thanks for testing the new one17:46
gnomefreaknp17:55
gnomefreakok maybe it is just me but why does fglrx have libqtcore4 and libqtgui4 as depends. its graphics drivers shouldnt they be more neutral17:59
gnomefreakfor example nvidia-common doesnt depend on qt or gtk the deps are pretty much all python18:00
kubu2nvidia-common is just a utility to set up nvidia18:04
kubu2not sure but the ATI control center might need qt to function18:07
kubu2but there are still other non-KDE apps that use qt like vlc for instance18:10
kubu2Ubuntu may be the gnome version but it's not 100% gnome18:11
gnomefreakkubu2: used to be18:12
gnomefreakbut i am more concerned about a freash install not being full gtk not qt18:12
gnomefreakfresh even18:13
BluesKajodd. I've lost interest in gnome ...tried to get used to it ...never could18:14
gnomefreakfunny thing is i dont have a nvidia crad or ever have on this pc and on a fresh install i have nvidia-common  it seems kind of a waste of space to me18:14
gnomefreaks/crad/card18:14
kubu2Ubuntu iso ships libqt*18:14
gnomefreakfunny thing is that is why there is a ubuntu and a kubuntu ISO one gtk other qt ;)18:16
gnomefreakwell not hte only reason but still18:17
yofelerm, Qt != KDE18:17
yofelsame as GTK != gnome18:17
gnomefreakfor the most part right18:17
yofelI don't see a problem with having a gtk/qt mix installed18:17
gnomefreaksearch the kubuntu ISo for gtk libs18:18
yofelthere is nothing that would use them, so they're not on the disk18:18
gnomefreakreason mozilla packages now come with kde installers too drop gtk libs18:18
gnomefreakyofel: than why would gnome18:19
yofelwell, we have a commitment to rekonq, but it was discussed whether to use firefox or not18:19
yofel(someone fix qtwebkit please though -.-)18:19
gnomefreaki can understand the fglrx* parts of the code can be in qt but i personally think it should be more neutral18:20
yofelneutral as in? Tk?18:20
gnomefreakpy18:20
kubu2Kubuntu iso ships some libgtk*18:20
yofelif you have a gui app you need some kind of gui toolkit18:20
yofeleven python needs some gui toolkit18:20
gnomefreakpytk :)18:21
yofelyeah, and now you have 3 gui tookits on your system :P18:21
gnomefreakgood point18:21
gnomefreaki remember when ubuntu was only gtk but i didnt have a ati than18:22
yofelwell, back then I actually liked gnome somewhat, can't really say I like the current one...18:22
yofelwhat's the proper way to install gnome3 in oneiric?18:22
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop is the easiest18:23
gnomefreakother wise you are going to have to install packages seperatly afaik18:23
IdleOneubuntu-desktop install gnome3?18:23
IdleOneinstalls*18:23
gnomefreakbe back in a few need to restart and prey18:23
gnomefreakIdleOne: in oneiric it does18:24
yofellet's see what gnome-shell pulls in...18:24
IdleOnepray also18:24
gnomefreakyeah that too :)18:24
gnomefreaki thought we removed gnome-shell from repos18:24
gnomefreakfor 11.0418:24
gnomefreakanyway be back in a few18:25
kubu2gnome-shell is quite impressive in oneiric18:25
yofelnah, it was just uninstallable18:25
yofelI'll try it again, the PPA for natty wasn't very usable..18:25
kubu2lack of 4.7 is driving me back to gnome-shell in oneiric18:27
kubu2yofel: ^^18:27
yofelwe're working on it is the best I can say, we're seriously shorthanded considering the workload18:27
kubu2we are losing a lot of testing with the general public.  wil this cause a delay for 10.10?18:28
kubu2*11.1118:28
yofelwell, 11.10 will probably ship 4.7.218:29
kubu2I would argue for a delay to 2011.11.1118:29
yofelour current problem is the source package split which is causing us lot of one-time work18:29
kubu2so we have 4.7.318:29
yofeland that the KDE release team did a rather bad job organizing it :(18:30
kubu2true.18:30
gnomefreakanyone else getting a udev error in place of pylmouth?18:34
gnomefreakor at least before plymouth18:34
BluesKajyup18:34
yofelyep18:34
gnomefreakthanks18:35
yofelI wonder when something will actually create /run18:35
BluesKajok , back to the lawn work...fun is over for an hr or so.18:36
yofelk, let's see if gnome-shell runs18:45
yofelI got the failsave session...18:47
trismyofel: same here18:49
trismhowever, unity 3d isn't starting anymore either, so I'm guessing just nvidia issues18:56
yofelwell, kwin works fine18:56
IdleOnebest thing I did was install kubuntu along side ubuntu this dev cycle :)18:57
yofelarrrrgh, byobu (or rather screen) locks up all the time recently :(18:57
IdleOnenvidia has given me so many problems, having the option to boot into kubuntu is beautiful.18:58
BUGabundobRoas o/19:19
BUGabundogood to see NM and Pigdin working hand with hand19:19
charlie-tcaThey are?19:22
yofelI would rather get byobu working again :/19:22
BUGabundocharlie-tca: at least it connected fine *this* time19:23
BUGabundoit didn't before19:23
BUGabundoI had to stop NM19:23
charlie-tcaheh, that would seem wrong19:23
BUGabundoI've been doing that for over a month19:24
kancermanthe old appearance settings panel ... where has it moved to ??19:48
zicadadoesnt exist in gnome319:49
kancermanalrighty ... what's the equivalent ... & yes, altho it takes a lil getting used to ... gnome3s bits are pretty darn professional :D19:50
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zicadathere is none really19:53
coz_kancerman,   you might want to install   gnome-tweak-tool   I believe it is called19:54
coz_kancerman,  it should be in the repositories  ,, not sure ,, I dont have oneiric in stalled here19:54
gnomefreakits in universe19:55
* gnomefreak not really here19:56
kancermanaha thanx19:56
BUGabundoeewwww19:58
BUGabundothat pulls HALF the universe with it !!!!!!!!19:58
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ChrisSeifriedI  have a problem with Oneiric after installation.  It hangs on "Checking for running unattended-upgrades:" while booting up.  Is this a common issue?21:14
carl0s-is there a known issue with intel-vt virtualisation acceleration? VirtualBox isn't detecting the capability :(21:27
carl0s-meh :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/79911121:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 799111 in linux (Ubuntu) "Broken virtualization capabilities" [Undecided,New]21:28
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DaekdroomIs the upgrade issue fixed?22:58
Ian_Corneis the sound change notification bug reported yet?23:01

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