[07:31] <Fudge> AlanBell  is tha ton oneiric?
[07:38] <leagris> hello
[07:39] <w0jrl> hello
[07:42] <w0jrl> Is anyone having an issue with Empathy where it doesn't show the contact list in an IRC chat? If so, how can I fix it?
[07:43] <w0jrl> in some rooms it works, and in others it doesn't.
[07:43] <w0jrl> it's wierd.
[07:45] <AlanBell> Fudge: it will be in oneiric, and there is a request to get it into Natty as a stable release update
[07:46] <Fudge> what will be AlanBell  i missed the first half of the converstaion but it sounded interesting
[07:46] <AlanBell> the update to onboard, the virtual keyboard
[07:47] <AlanBell> if you add https://launchpad.net/~frafu/+archive/ppa and update then onboard should be upgraded to get the new theme
[07:48] <AlanBell> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[07:49] <AlanBell> so it should get the more ubuntuish colours and font and rounded corners on the keycaps
[08:23] <w0jrl> Does anyone know how to start KAccessible?
[09:29] <Fudge> ah right AlanBell  tks
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Now trying a vertical mouse, Evoluent Vertical Mouse 3, right hand, USB only
[22:01] <charlie-tca> phillw: question?
[22:01] <charlie-tca> Any chance you could help cjohnston with making status website work without removing minimum font settings?
[22:03] <phillw> charlie-tca: I'd be happy to assist
[22:04] <charlie-tca> Can you join #ubuntu-community-team?
[22:32] <TheMuso> I played with a recent revision of Unity 2D today with preliminary accessible support.
[22:54] <fregl> TheMuso: I'd like to hear your opinion on it
[23:00] <TheMuso> fregl: Right, I've already emailed you my preliminary findings, will play more tomorrow.
[23:00] <TheMuso> Re unity 2d.
[23:00] <fregl> ah, thanks
[23:00] <TheMuso> np
[23:01] <TheMuso> Someone suggested I try using skype. Will probably do that tomorrow.,
[23:01] <fregl> TheMuso: for keyboard stuff you need to kick your own guys ;)
[23:01] <TheMuso> fregl: Yup, that shouldn't be a problem.
[23:01] <fregl> vlc seems pretty crappy and qgit needs tables to work
[23:01] <fregl> I'm slowly testing more apps now
[23:02] <TheMuso> Right.
[23:02] <fregl> at some point it would be good to go through some inventory or set an app as target regularily
[23:02] <fregl> most would require upstream collaboration
[23:02] <fregl> for kde it's easy, I can simply commit there
[23:02] <TheMuso> yUP.
[23:02] <TheMuso> gah capslock
[23:03] <TheMuso> My first and primary concern atm is unity 2D.
[23:03] <fregl> sure
[23:03] <TheMuso> So will be working with the devs on that one,.
[23:03] <fregl> for me it's the big picture of course. but unity is great as test case for qml
[23:03] <TheMuso> yUP.
[23:04] <TheMuso> Grrr.
[23:04] <TheMuso> Anyway, gotta get to bed. I am still slightly tired from my trip here over the weekend.
[23:04] <fregl> TheMuso: sleep well :)
[23:04] <TheMuso> thanks
[23:43] <Cheri703> charlie-tca: how is the vertical mouse?
[23:46] <charlie-tca> weird? 
[23:47] <charlie-tca> This is the old model, three button and scroll wheel on the right, thumb button on left.
[23:47] <charlie-tca> It is very different
[23:47] <charlie-tca> It is closer to a mouse than the trackballs I have been using
[23:48] <charlie-tca> but it is almost like using a joystick to move the cursor
[23:48] <charlie-tca> Oh, and it only works on USB, I tried a ps/2 adapter, but it won't work
[23:48] <Cheri703> is it happier for your wrist/hand? regardless of usability issues?
[23:48] <charlie-tca> I don't yet. Just got it today
[23:49] <Cheri703> kk :)
[23:49] <charlie-tca> It does take the tension out of the forearm for me
[23:49] <Cheri703> that's good
[23:50] <charlie-tca> Gonna take a bit to get used to the movements again. I been using trackballs for over three years now