[00:00] <uhgtt> just wondering got one more problem to p u off with bfor ebed ha. i have windows and ubuntu dual boot. i would like to get all my files off windows a bld be gr8nd on to ubuntu partition. i would then like to put ubuntu as the only operating system . what is easiest way to do this please ne suggestions would
[00:01] <uhgtt> be gr8
[00:02] <szal> any decent English would be even greater
[00:02] <gry_> uhgtt: Mount the Windows partition, move the files you need to the Ubuntu partition, use gparted to format the Windows partition after that.
[00:02] <Gaming4JC> hey guys, simple question that feels noobish. How do I make a user an admin from terminal?
[00:02] <Gaming4JC> I know adduser makes users... but I need to upgrade one of them to admin
[00:02] <uhgtt> gr8 gparted. i was wondering if i would then have to back up everything on ubuntu, then reinstall and reload all files
[00:02] <yeats> taraduffy: what kind of drive is it that you're trying to mount?
[00:02] <gry_> Gaming4JC: sudo visudo
[00:02] <Chheap> I just installed compiz on my xubuntu 11.04, how do i make it start automatically and how I can stil keep my old hotkeys (alt f2 for launcher etc...)
[00:03] <Gaming4JC> gry_: thanks much :)
[00:03] <taraduffy> yeats: hard drive of machine. Something went wrong suddenly was working fine.
[00:03] <Somelauw> coz_ and qin: thanks, when changing the opacity, it works
[00:03] <uhgtt> how do i get my computer information on ubuntu its easy in windows
[00:03] <gry_> Gaming4JC: err see "man usermod" maybe, apparently you just have to add user to group  "admin" there
[00:03] <uhgtt> i can tell u hard drive and everything thn
[00:03] <Somelauw> Will try to instance on of them out later
[00:03] <gry_> uhgtt: Nautilus.
[00:04] <taraduffy> yeats: I get s for skip or m for manual recovery option
[00:04] <uhgtt> right one second then will use it
[00:04] <gry_> uhgtt: Left pane. :-)
[00:04] <yeats> taraduffy: so you're able to boot... this is a secondary drive?
[00:05] <taraduffy> yeats: can boot to grub loader screen, then gets stuck.
[00:05] <yeats> hmm
[00:05] <soreau> evince: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: failed to map segment from shared object: Permission denied
[00:06] <soreau> What is going on here guys?
[00:06] <TrevInc> soreau: you broke it, duh
[00:06] <yeats> taraduffy: (big storm coming through - may lose power) so when it gets stuck, can you do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a prompt?
[00:07] <taraduffy> yeats: yes
[00:07] <uhgtt> i dont know nautilus scripts
[00:07] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - so you can log into that prompt?
[00:07] <Somelauw> Seems like cuz_ is already gone.
[00:07] <uhgtt> i used it to get access to rkunher log
[00:07] <uhgtt> but dont see any system info
[00:07] <uhgtt> nething i can type into console
[00:07] <taraduffy> yeats: yes. Then I get the usual options (drive is partitioned); so I select normal option and then get stuck
[00:07] <sw0rdfish> uhhh crap, I had another xchat session open and was minimized to the tray but I deleted the panel, and uhh I added all the necessary items to the panel but the xchat session won't show?
[00:08] <sw0rdfish> what can I do...
[00:08] <gry_> uhgtt: http://i.imgur.com/eHP4P.png
[00:08] <uhgtt> umm
[00:08] <uhgtt> ah
[00:08] <chewyTree> uhgtt, are you on the bug squad?
[00:08] <uhgtt> hold on
[00:08] <uhgtt> scuse me
[00:08] <uhgtt> very rude
[00:08] <th0r> uhgtt: if you are looking for something like Device Manager try lshw lspci and lsusb in terminal
[00:09] <yeats> taraduffy: I'm confused then... you get to the GRUB screen, then Ubuntu starts booting until you see "s for skip or m for manual recovery option"
[00:09] <lyczkowski>  I got xfce .  how make icons apear on desktop with full name?
[00:09] <uhgtt> me too
[00:09] <uhgtt> ok will try that command thanks
[00:09] <taraduffy> yeats: yes.
[00:09] <th0r> uhgtt: that is three commands <smile>
[00:09] <uhgtt> yes i figured (just!)
[00:09] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - when you get to that point, type "m"
[00:09] <uhgtt> do i need sudo bfore them
[00:10] <taraduffy> yeats: OK.
[00:10] <uhgtt> sudo lshw oh ill just try it
[00:10] <uhgtt> ctr alt t
[00:10] <th0r> uhgtt: not sure about ubuntu. And there is a ton of info, so you might want to pipe each to a file 'lshw > lshw.txt'
[00:10] <yeats> taraduffy: I'm assuming that puts you at a bash prompt where you can login, no?
[00:10] <uhgtt> lshw comes up with warning you should run this as super user
[00:11] <uhgtt> what have u made me do
[00:11] <th0r> uhgtt: yeah...it just shows all the hw info
[00:11] <taraduffy> yeats: yes, I get root@taraduffy-lapto:
[00:11] <uhgtt> ok hold on
[00:12] <th0r> uhgtt: just tried it in my debian, no lshw....hmmmmmm...but the other two work
[00:12] <yeats> taraduffy: oh good.  now type "mount -a" and tell me what message it gives
[00:12] <yeats> taraduffy: if it's alot of output, please paste to http://goo.gl/ixcN9 and share the link
[00:13] <taraduffy> yeats: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[00:13] <Wiesshund> guess they really want to push the unity GUI in 11.04 eh?
[00:13] <taraduffy> yeats: mount point does not exist.
[00:14] <Riberty> how do i get my mic to work on ubuntu 10.10????
[00:14] <Riberty> actually my headset doesnt work
[00:14] <TrevInc> Wiesshund: there's always selecting Ubuntu Classic at login
[00:14] <TrevInc> which is what I do tbh
[00:15] <uhgtt> ok how to use pastebin
[00:15] <Monotoko> is Gnome3 going to be included in 11.10?
[00:15] <uhgtt> neone post a link
[00:15] <qin> uhgtt: echo foo | pastebinit
[00:15] <Wiesshund> TrevInc yea but seems none of the compiz stuff functions. i do get a normal ubuntu desktop, but no cube etc which i used alot
[00:15] <gry_> taraduffy: You don't have to /login/ as root on Ubuntu.... Just use 'sudo' to run the tasks which require access, but to login as root isn't necessary or expected
[00:15] <yeats> taraduffy: /dev/sr0 should be your CD/DVD ROM drive, not your HDD
[00:15] <TrevInc> Monotoko: that's the goal
[00:16] <gry_> !pastebin | uhgtt
[00:16] <yeats> taraduffy: what happens if you reboot and type "s" instead of "m"?
[00:16] <subten> how do i connect to another channel
[00:16] <gry_> subten: /join #channel
[00:16] <Monotoko> TrevInc, so what will be happening with Unity...which one will be used?
[00:16] <uhgtt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633292/
[00:16] <uhgtt> ok theres my computer specs
[00:16] <uhgtt> for techies
[00:16] <pat201> i need help with running a virtual machine
[00:16] <subten> do you guys know any good irc channels for hacking help
[00:17] <gry_> pat201: ask
[00:17] <taraduffy> yeats: I am doing what I normally do. If I just type s then it just gets stuck it seems indefinitely. Now that you mention this is started when I perhaps removed a DVD to fast(?)
[00:17] <uhgtt> ne good?
[00:17] <Success> defcon?
[00:17] <gry_> subten: irc://irc.rizon.net
[00:17] <Success> virtualbox
[00:17] <subten> how do you connect using that adress
[00:17] <taraduffy> yeats: do I have to change something to boot from the HD - maybe this got skewed somehow?
[00:17] <yeats> taraduffy: can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/fstab?
[00:17] <Success> do a /server irc.rizon.net
[00:17] <Wiesshund> I wouldnt mind unity if it was not such a pain to change whats on the launcher bar
[00:17] <subten> thanks got it
[00:17] <gry_> subten: /connect irc.rizon.net or /server irc.rizon.net
[00:17] <uhgtt> whats my hard drive name
[00:18] <uhgtt> blimey
[00:18] <qin> AcidRain: Right, ps do not support usernames, but apache seems to be run by you, grep 8 /etc/passwd
[00:18] <subten> how do you clear the screen in irc
[00:18] <gry_> subten: /clear
[00:18] <uhgtt> no idea
[00:18] <Success> can someone help me with symbian/android/webOS emulators?
[00:18] <gry_> Success: ask away
[00:19] <yeats> taraduffy: when that error you're seeing happens, one of the filesystems listed in /etc/fstab is not available to be mounted for some reason
[00:19] <pat201> im trying to run mandriva on virtual box OSE, but when i insert the mandriva install disc virtual box does not recognize it
[00:19] <Success> symbian didnt work
[00:19] <yeats> taraduffy: but it's booting from your HDD, not trying to boot from CD-ROM (you are able to login after all)
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> pat201: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[00:20] <hilikus> hey guys
[00:20] <gry_> uhgtt: the hard drive name is "/" or sda1 (see "mount" output)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> hi hilikus
[00:20] <gry_> uhgtt: sd2, sd3, ... or similar
[00:20] <pat201> i have not, how do i proceed?
[00:20] <subten> why cant i join gry_ to irc.rizon.net
[00:20] <taraduffy> yeats: I am following; cant get an output from /etc/fstab - it says permission t=denied or command not found.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | pat201
[00:20] <gry_> subten: PM me the error you're getting
[00:20] <subten> * Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator
[00:20] <pat201> thank you!
[00:21] <uhgtt> ah
[00:21] <gry_> subten: ok, try to /server irc.rizon.net instead of /connect
[00:21] <yeats> taraduffy: try 'cat /etc/fstab'
[00:21] <taraduffy> yeats: am typing:/etc/fstab
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> pat201: you just need the hashes of good mandriva images. You have failed to MD5 test the ISO so you have no way of knowing if the image is good
[00:21] <wsagent> Finally I got something to hide my IP and bypass Gov proxys in ubuntu
[00:21] <uhgtt> good computer considering its a couple of years old
[00:21] <hilikus> im having problems with hibernation. it works except the screen is all screwed up. there are rows of pixels gradually filling and in the backgroun the real image flickers. i have to go to standby and back to fix it. the weird thing is that the same computer with the same version of ubuntu on an external hdd works fine. any idea what can cause this? i'm trying to avoid a reinstall if possible
[00:21] <Success> should i bug u guys or android ppl first for android sdk
[00:22] <subten> gry_ now it says i didnt join a channel
[00:22] <gry_> subten: Then join one
[00:22] <uhgtt> is there going to be a stable alpha release of 11.04
[00:22] <bazhang> uhgtt, no
[00:22] <subten> * Looking up irc.rizon.net
[00:22] <subten> * Connecting to eu.iso.rizon.net (188.126.73.53) port 6667...
[00:22] <subten> * Connected. Now logging in...
[00:22] <subten> * Please wait while we process your connection.
[00:22] <subten> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[00:22] <FloodBot1> subten: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <subten> * *** Checking Ident
[00:22] <gry_> uhgtt: stable or alpha? 11.04 is stable currently
[00:22] <Wiesshund> be back in a bit, off to reinstall 10.10
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> uhgtt: 11.04 is stable
[00:23] <taraduffy> yeats: I cant pastbin as I am a second machine: I get 4 lines: which one is likely to be the problem?
[00:23] <uhgtt> so is this 'best' version of linux or is something else better for beginners. this came from mag bundled with all apps built in so easy to use not just bare os.
[00:23] <gry_> subten: ?
[00:23] <subten> it says it wont connect
[00:24] <gry_> subten: PM me the error you're getting please
[00:24] <Marin_M> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc
[00:24] <uhgtt> is nething else worth a try bfore making leap entirely to linux
[00:24] <bazhang> uhgtt, this is ubuntu support. try ##linux if you want opinions
[00:24] <phishfood> try the backtrack irc
[00:24] <subten> its the one up top
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> uhgtt: there is no best distro
[00:24] <subten> * *** Couldn't look up your hostname
[00:24] <bazhang> Marin_M, dont paste that here
[00:24] <taraduffy> yeats: dev/sr0 /home/taraduffy/desktop udf/iso9660 user,ro 0 0
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> uhgtt: each has its own strengths and aim
[00:24] <gry_> subten: that line is ok, it shouldn't prevent you from connecting
[00:24] <johnnywhite> .
[00:24] <uhgtt> gr8
[00:24] <uhgtt> well i have to say if people make a little effort then linux so much better
[00:24] <gry_> johnnywhite: hi
[00:24] <Flannel> Marin_M: #ubuntu-offtopic for that, this channel is for support only.  Thanks.
[00:25] <uhgtt> it is quite a thing to even consider making jump so much time hassle
[00:25] <uhgtt> but have been pleasantly surprised knew nothing about it bfore.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> uhgtt: you could try one of the many distros around, one may suit you better
[00:25] <taraduffy> yeats: (was 1st line). I recall I was trying to change a DVD format or something with a line of code in a terminal involving fstab
[00:25] <gry_> uhgtt: Welcome.
[00:25] <uhgtt> and have learnt alot without realising it already
[00:25] <Billjuik> Hey guys, I've been trying to get ubuntu working on my hp pavilion p6777c-b, but it just doesn't want to work right. Whenever I install it, I have problems with the window manager and lose the ability to interact with my screen and or minimize close or maximize windows, can you guys give me a hint as to what the problem might be or how I can fix it? thanks!
[00:26] <beachbuddah> uhgtt:  Last Nov I backed up my stuff and reformatted to Ubuntu - haven't looked back since
[00:26] <TrevInc> Billjuik: does the bar at the top with the window buttons disappear?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Billjuik: what video chip does it use?
[00:26] <Billjuik> @trevinc yes it does
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Billjuik: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[00:26] <Billjuik> Give me a second to search
[00:26] <Billjuik> No, but I used 6 different burnt cd's, and they worked fine on my friends pc
[00:26] <Billjuik> brb to check graphics chip[
[00:27] <Billjuik> ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated graphics
[00:27] <uhgtt> i regret being put off for life when my dad gave me the machine code and assembly language book with my 48k spectrum when  i was under 10!!!! worst thing he could have done. finally getting over phobia may eve
[00:27] <uhgtt> may even learn c
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Billjuik: ok then when the CD starts to boot, test the RAM and test the CD for defects
[00:27] <hilikus> how can i tell which video driver i'm using?
[00:27] <TrevInc> ASM is a hard way to start
[00:27] <Billjuik> Okay, I will do that
[00:27] <bazhang> uhgtt, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> uhgtt: I had the 128 +2, was coding it at around the same age :)
[00:28] <soreau> hilikus: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:28] <uhgtt> ok ta for help
[00:28] <Billjuik> Thanks @ActionParsnip :)
[00:28] <pat201> if the partition i have the VM on is 20gigs, how much space should i allocate to mandriva?
[00:28] <yeats> taraduffy: can you type 'nano /etc/fstab' (assuming you're still root, here) and add a '#' to the front of that line, then type Ctrl-X to exit saying yes to the changes?
[00:28] <bazhang> pat201, try #mandriva
[00:28] <soreau> hilikus: It's typically the name that's mentioned repeatedly in capital letters at the beginning of lines in the middle of the file
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> pat201: I'd ask in the mandriva channel how much it needs and such
[00:29] <uhgtt> it almost matched my hatred of latin but wont ever get over learning that. ha. amo amas amat amamus amatis amant.  au revoir x
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> hilikus: of:  sudo lshw -C display
[00:29] <yeats> taraduffy: you should then (probably) be able to reboot into your normal setup
[00:30] <llslim> how do i reload the pam so .pam_environment is loaded?
[00:31] <taraduffy> yeats: I get to where you direct me: but cant seem to get out: maybe I am not logged in as root user.
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> ok that didn't quite work. How would I go about upgrading a user to an admin from terminal... :P
[00:31] <Gaming4JC> google befalls me...
[00:32] <JaWS> need some help intalling Puppy Linux!
[00:32] <froq> have any of you used Picard?!  to fix all your metadata?!?!
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> JaWS: this is #ubuntu
[00:32] <JaWS> sorry  ;(
[00:32] <taraduffy> I end with file name to write: /etc/fstab then a cursor but cant get out
[00:32] <qin> Gaming4JC: sudo adduser <username> admin This adding user to admin group
[00:33] <JaWS> so, who can help me out?
[00:33] <bazhang> JaWS, the puppy channel
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> qin: the group 'admin' does not exist... :( ?
[00:33] <pat201> i have a bad mandriva image, is this because i downloaded/burned using linux?
[00:34] <bazhang> pat201, doubtful , ask mandriva support in #mandriva though
[00:34] <fartypants> hi
[00:34] <yeats> taraduffy: do you get "error writing /etc/fstab: Permission denied"?
[00:34] <fartypants> I have a ubuntu 9.0 cd... if I just install that and update is that ok?
[00:34] <llslim> where to put GIT_EDITOR environment variable.
[00:34] <llslim> ?
[00:34] <bazhang> fartypants, no. it's end of life.
[00:34] <PythonSnake> !wine
[00:35] <qin> Gaming4JC: You sure it is Ubuntu?
[00:35] <fartypants> bazhang: I know
[00:35] <fartypants> but what if I update
[00:35] <Gaming4JC> qin: ubuntu 10.10 server
[00:35] <fartypants> the grub, the system
[00:35] <fartypants> doesn't it have automatic updates?
[00:35] <yeats> taraduffy: if so, just do Ctrl-X and answer no, then do 'sudo nano /etc/fstab'
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> llslim: add it in ~/.bashrc
[00:35] <taraduffy> yeats: I did at one point, but now it says modified in top right of screen.
[00:36] <yeats> taraduffy: try Ctrl-X and answer no
[00:36] <taraduffy> yeats: trying. .
[00:36] <fartypants> Surely you dont have to uninstall the ubuntu and reinstall the new one
[00:37] <fartypants> if someone used ubuntu since 9.0, is there a real difference if they just update it?
[00:37] <taraduffy> yeats: i get same screen but says read 4 lines (Warning no write permissons).
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> fartypants: you can, it creates fewer issues. Release support eventually stops
[00:37] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades fartypants
[00:37] <llslim> ActionParsnip,  this indicates .bashrc/.bash_profile is not the place to put them.
[00:38] <fartypants> hmm
[00:38] <llslim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:38] <brian_lim> anyone know how to make sound louder in ubuntu 11.04... I have it set to max in sound preferences
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> llslim: if you add it in ~/.bashrc it will add for that one user
[00:38] <yeats> taraduffy: hmm - this is after doing 'sudo nano..."?
[00:38] <bazhang> brian_lim, adjust alsamixer
[00:38] <taraduffy> yeats: yes/
[00:38] <mads-> If I have a given zip-file, how do I unzip it to an absolute location?
[00:38] <brian_lim> bazhang: thx
[00:38] <Gaming4JC> bah I'll just install ubuntu desktop I guess
[00:38] <Gaming4JC> :(
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> mads:  unzip filename
[00:39] <yeats> okay - exit that and type 'whoami' and let me know what it says
[00:39] <taraduffy> yeats: I can make the change of the # on the line then do control x but then screen does not exit, also does not say permission denied.
[00:39] <yeats> hmm
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> llslim: you will add:   export GIT_EDITOR=nano           or similar
[00:40] <mads-> ActionParsnip, that just unzip it where I stand, doesn't it?
[00:40] <fartypants> Does the new ubuntu have the problem of not waking up from sandby
[00:40] <yeats> taraduffy: what comes up when you type Ctrl-o?
[00:40] <fartypants> standby
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> mads: yeah
[00:40] <fartypants> on a laptop
[00:40] <bazhang> fartypants, check launchpad for bugs
[00:41] <mads-> ActionParsnip, but that was not what I asked.
[00:41] <fartypants> no bazhang what I mean is...
[00:41] <llslim> ActionParsnip, i understand that. guess i'm trying to understand how to use .pam_environment as said by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:41] <fartypants> when you close the laptop lid... it goes to standby
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> mads: so you want to output the extract files somewhere else?
[00:41] <fartypants> and then when you open it.. it dos not show anything
[00:41] <taraduffy> yeats: File name to Write: /etc/fstab [blinking cursor]
[00:41] <yeats> taraduffy: type enter
[00:41] <taraduffy> yeats: thanks for patience :-)
[00:42] <bazhang> fartypants, that is a very broad question. it works fine on *my* laptop.
[00:42] <yeats> taraduffy: sure ;-)
[00:42] <mads-> ActionParsnip, yeah.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> mads: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-howto-unzip-files-in-root-directory/
[00:42] <pat201> i deleted grub by mistake on another computer, how can i reinstall it?
[00:42] <taraduffy> yeats: I get read-only file system
[00:42] <yeats> ah...
[00:42] <bazhang> !grub2 | pat201 have a read
[00:42] <mads-> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:42] <fartypants> bazhang: ok
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> pat201: sure, boot to live CD and you can reinstate it there
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> mads: did you TRY to find a guide yourself at all....?
[00:43] <mads-> ActionParsnip, I did. I just end up searching for the wrong stuff.
[00:43] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - can you reboot into recovery mode?
[00:43] <taraduffy> yeats: ok
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> mads: here is what I used: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=unzip+file+other+directory
[00:43] <taraduffy> yeats:doing. .
[00:44] <taraduffy> yeats: m for manual recovery option?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> llslim: then use /etc/environment as the guide says....
[00:44] <fartypants> bazhang: you got a thinkpad?
[00:44] <bazhang> fartypants, yes
[00:45] <yeats> taraduffy: no... from GRUB, select the option that says "[recovery mode]"
[00:45] <fartypants> bazhang: could it be a driver issue that could cause the "coma" symptoms :)
[00:45] <fartypants> lol
[00:45] <bazhang> doubt it
[00:45] <taraduffy> yeats: done. then I s for skip m for recovery.
[00:45] <fartypants> ok
[00:45] <taraduffy> yeats: sorry: i get s or m option
[00:46] <taraduffy> yeats: manual recovery?
[00:46] <hilikus> im having problems with hibernation. it works except the screen is all screwed up. there are rows of pixels gradually filling and in the backgroun the real image flickers. i have to go to standby and back to fix it. the weird thing is that the same computer with the same version of ubuntu on an external hdd works fine. any idea what can cause this? i'm trying to avoid a reinstall if possible
[00:46] <llslim> ActionParsnip,  thats what i ended up doing. just wondered if anybody actually used the .pam_environment file successfully.
[00:46] <gry_> hilikus: Can you give hardware details please?
[00:46] <hilikus> gry, what exactly? its an msi wind netbook
[00:46] <yeats> taraduffy: type 's'
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> llslim: not used it personally, other may have
[00:47] <taraduffy> yeats: done
[00:47] <varunthacker> My ubuntu hangs as soon as I start to enter my password
[00:47] <yeats> taraduffy: you should see a "recovery menu" - do you?
[00:47] <taraduffy> yeats: y
[00:48] <varunthacker> I already tried deleting the .gconf/.gconfd/.gnome/.gnome2 folders and it didn't help
[00:48] <yeats> taraduffy: great!  arrow down to 'root' and hit Enter
[00:48] <taraduffy> yeats: done. now repeat nano /etc/fstab?
[00:49] <yeats> taraduffy: yes please
[00:49] <llslim> ActionParsnip, thanks for help
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> llslim: np man :)
[00:49] <taraduffy> yeats: add # on first line then control X?
[00:49] <yeats> taraduffy: yes
[00:50] <htmlinprogress> hi
[00:51] <taraduffy> i get modified in top right, and File Name to Write: /etc/fstab [flicking cursor]
[00:51] <yeats> taraduffy: hit Enter
[00:52] <taraduffy> yeats: ! error read only file system
[00:52] <yeats> taraduffy: argh!
[00:52] <taraduffy> yeats: add "root" somewhere?
[00:53] <yeats> taraduffy: no - unfortunately it's not privileges that are the issue... ready only is read only :-(
[00:53] <yeats> taraduffy: do you have a live CD around?  (easiest if it's an Ubuntu CD?
[00:54]  * yeats is confused about this problem...
[00:54] <taraduffy> yeats: no.
[00:55] <Marco> Hi, if I'm writing an upstart script, will environment variables changes I make remain after the script runs?
[00:55] <taraduffy> yeats: can I mnake one on this second machine I am using running the same ubuntu version?
[00:56] <midwinter_> anyone have any idea why my dell mini would only have sound when the lid is half closed??
[00:56] <TeamColtra> Okay so I found http://askubuntu.com/questions/40683/how-do-i-share-my-connection-with-ics-and-an-xbox-360 to help me share my internet connection with my xbox (and I tried it with another device too still no dice) -- They get IP addresses assigned to them and all is good but they cannot actually connect to the internet
[00:56] <DevilSolution> hi
[00:56] <yeats> taraduffy: sure - you'll probably have to download the ISO file, though so that will be a while
[00:56] <taraduffy> yeats: OK then what do I do?
[00:56] <pat201> I used GTKHash to test a mandriva iso, how can i tell if they are good?
[00:57] <taraduffy> yeats: ie do I download ubuntu as if starting all over with a new install?
[00:57] <yeats> taraduffy: yes
[00:57] <bazhang> pat201, why are you asking mandriva support here? #mandriva
[00:57] <taraduffy> yeats: OK, then what do  I do - boot from that and then?
[00:57] <yeats> taraduffy: can you try doing 'sudo apt-get update' on the station now?
[00:58] <taraduffy> yeats: yes. . .
[00:58] <ubun> does anyone know of an ubuntu 10.04 compatible video capture device
[00:58] <ubun> ??
[00:58] <bazhang> !hcl > ubun
[00:59] <ubun> bazhang, thank you
[00:59] <taraduffy> yeats: I am rebooting to navigate to root in manual recovery then will try.
[00:59] <yeats> taraduffy: ok
[01:00] <yeats> taraduffy: if you can install pastebinit on the machine, it will make sharing things a bit easier
[01:00] <ideaman007> in XChat-Gnome, is there a way to turn off displaying of Joins/Parts? ... is XChat-Gnome a simplified version of XChat?
[01:00] <ulysses_> hello
[01:01] <ulysses_> how to change the nick in irssi?
[01:01] <TeamColtra>  /nick ulysses_
[01:01] <ideaman007> XChat-Gnome's website from their help > about is a dead link :/
[01:01] <taraduffy>  yeats: i get could not open package & status file error.
[01:01] <ideaman007> what irc app are most people using here?
[01:01] <qin> ideaman007: /j #xchat
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> ideaman007: irssi and pidgin
[01:01] <qin> ideaman007: irssi
[01:01] <yeats> taraduffy: I thought it might not work :-(...
[01:02] <je0rJey> TeamColtra: how to set up irssi to start with a default nick ?
[01:02] <taraduffy> yeats: if I make reboot disc, what do I do with it? will I always need to boot from it?
[01:02] <Disturbed1> hello
[01:02] <phishfood>  irssi
[01:03] <yeats> taraduffy: without seeing it, it's hard to know for sure, but it appears that your /etc/fstab is misconfigured to mount your OS read-only
[01:03] <TeamColtra> je0rJey, no not default... sorry
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> je0rJey: irssi --nick=name
[01:03] <yeats> taraduffy: no - my hope is that you can use it to get to the /etc/fstab and make some changes
[01:03] <taraduffy> yeats: I see. is my hard drive data OK probably?
[01:03] <Disturbed1> Is there anyone here that can help me with setting up conky?
[01:03] <yeats> taraduffy: is it backed up?
[01:03] <TheMatrix3000_> when i make a bash script
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> je0rJey: I suggest you read:  man irssi
[01:04] <taraduffy> yeats: yes on a USB chip/
[01:04] <qin> je0rJey: In ~/.irssi/config
[01:04] <TheMatrix3000_> can i just put commands like shown -R user:usergroup userdir
[01:04] <TheMatrix3000_> chown*
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> TheMatrix3000_: yes
[01:04] <TeamColtra> Okay so I found http://askubuntu.com/questions/40683/how-do-i-share-my-connection-with-ics-and-an-xbox-360 to help me share my internet connection with my xbox (and I tried it with another device too still no dice) -- They get IP addresses assigned to them and all is good but they cannot actually connect to the internet
[01:04] <TheMatrix3000_> awesome
[01:04] <TheMatrix3000_> thanks
[01:04] <je0rJey> thanks
[01:04] <yeats> taraduffy: if it's backed up to your satisfaction, then worst case scenario is:  you reinstall the OS and move the data back into place
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: can they ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[01:05] <taraduffy> yeats: OK. it is probably OK. what option do I pick on the new startupCD?
[01:05] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip, :P unfortunately one is my docked tablet and the other is my xbox neither of which have "ping" capibilities
[01:05] <yeats> taraduffy: "try ubuntu without installing"
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: makes sense, xbox sucks for anything intelligent
[01:05] <Disturbed1> Is there anyone here that can help me with setting up conky?
[01:06] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip, thats why its built by Microsoft ;)
[01:06] <taraduffy> yeats: OK. Thanks very much for your help I really appreciate it :-)
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: try amnually setting the DNS servers to 8.8.8.8  and 8.8.4.4
[01:06] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 Disturbed1
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: Windows is built by the same and has ping capabilities, your xbox is just an even more crippled windows system
[01:07] <yeats> taraduffy: sure.  I'm going to exit for a minute and be back - I want to change computers ;-)
[01:07] <taraduffy> yeats: :-) downloading will take some time. .. .
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: you may not be broadcasting DNS settings so you may need to manually set it
[01:08] <Disturbed1> ty bazhang will return if need more help.  probably will since i'm not real good at this kind of stuff lol
[01:09] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 did not fix it
[01:09] <draioch> hi runnin lubuntu 11.04 having problems getting chat plugin for firefox to work, when it says install pluging from the plugin finder nothing happens, got latest java installed also anyone any ideas pls
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: can you web browse to your routers IP address (assuming you have one)
[01:11] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip, can you rephrase that into dummy terms? :P (or if that was dummy terms -- 5 year old terms :P )
[01:12] <qin> TeamColtra: traceroute google.com and point your browser to first ip you will see (number 1)
[01:13] <Wiesshund> this is kind of sad, ive actually find a revision of ubuntu i dont like :(
[01:15] <caoxiaomin> FBI用的是什么操作系统？
[01:15] <maco> !cn | caoxiaomin
[01:16] <caoxiaomin> FBI  is  what cao zuo xi tong
[01:16] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, no
[01:16] <caoxiaomin> no ge qiu le .
[01:16] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, using pinyin is not using english
[01:16] <TeamColtra> qin - it took me to google
[01:17] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, you know very well #ubuntu-cn is for chinese, here is for english
[01:17] <qin> TeamColtra: Sorry, second ip (listed as 1.)
[01:17] <caoxiaomin> english is pig
[01:17] <caoxiaomin> fuck
[01:17] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, then exit
[01:18] <Wiesshund> Hmm i think i like 11.04 better than coaxiaomin
[01:18] <Guest21598> lol
[01:18] <Wiesshund> and i'm uninstalling 11.04 LOL
[01:18] <Danny_Joris_> hi all, I have a pc with windows 7 on it and it has troubles. Blue screens, freeze ups etc.. I want to figure out if this is a hardware or software problem so that's why I want to try Ubuntu. My usb startup failed and I'm reading now about the WUBI installer. I was wondering: you install it through windows, but when you run it, is it still on top of windows or more independant?
[01:19] <TeamColtra> qin, it brought a popup asking for my username and password
[01:19] <qin> TeamColtra: Thats your router
[01:19] <Revvy___> I have a laptop. When it's plugged in (AC), USB works, but when I unplug the AC, all the USB ports stop working, why?
[01:19] <Wiesshund> Danny_Joris_ it is running itself but from a compressed filesystem on the windows partition
[01:19] <TeamColtra> YAY I FOUND MY ROUTER :D -- but I am not actually sure what that means
[01:19] <Guest21598> Revvy___, because your laptop is broken it would seem
[01:20] <Danny_Joris_> Wiesshund: cool thanks I'll try it then. So it doesn't touch any windows files...
[01:20] <wols> Danny_Joris_: more independant, but still not a very good idea to run ubuntu like that
[01:20] <TeamColtra> (I know what a router is... I don't know what I do with the information that i have)
[01:20] <Danny_Joris_> wols: it isn't?
[01:20] <Wiesshund> Danny_Joris_ no it doesnt
[01:20] <Revvy___> No, I remember enabling something in Powertop that caused this behaviour, I just don't know what
[01:20] <Guest21598> Danny_Joris_, it will be fine if you are just testing... unless your windows file system has issues also
[01:21] <Guest21598> Revvy___, that is useful information... heh
[01:21] <Danny_Joris_> I just want to figure out if the pc issues are hardware or software related. I wouldn't really use it every day.
[01:21] <Guest21598> good luck with reversing what you did :)
[01:21] <Danny_Joris_> I'm using ubuntu in a VM every day already
[01:22] <Guest21598> Danny_Joris_, it should be fine.. if you find ubuntu unstable... it could definitely point to hardware or hard-drive issues, especially since its running off the same hard-drive
[01:22] <qin> TeamColtra: That was idea of ActionParsnip, honestly not sure what supposed to be next step. What is problem (simply)?
[01:22] <Danny_Joris_> cool, thanks all!! :)
[01:23] <TeamColtra> qin, I am trying to go xbox <-eth0-> laptop ((( Wifi ((( router
[01:23] <Wiesshund> why not just go Xbox >>> router ?
[01:24] <TeamColtra> Wiesshund, because my router is upstairs
[01:24] <Wiesshund> or Xbox >>> WIFI
[01:24] <pain> hi!!
[01:24] <TeamColtra> wifi dongle = $100
[01:24] <Guest21598> Wiesshund, assumably distance and no wireless adapter for the xbox ;)
[01:24] <TeamColtra> ^
[01:24] <TeamColtra> There is also a bit of a "because I can" side to it as well.
[01:25] <TeamColtra> I am typically not using my laptop while I am playing my xbox -- so I have the available technology to do it, why buy more stuff?
[01:25] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, you need to find a howto to turn your ubuntu install into a gateway/forwarding router for other computers
[01:25] <pain> hello! Does anyone have any information about the attacks against the Brazilian government sites?
[01:25] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, unfortunately "doing it yourself" usually means reading and research :) not just the "how do I do this guys?"
[01:25] <TeamColtra> Guest21598, http://askubuntu.com/questions/40683/how-do-i-share-my-connection-with-ics-and-an-xbox-360 <- That guy seems to have got it
[01:26] <aeon-ltd> pain: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:26] <anonboo> !ot | pain
[01:26] <TeamColtra> Yeah well I found a lot of this on my own already but the steps that I already knew were not working fully... so I needed some extra help from my friends here. (Even though I sound like an idiot, I know at least a little bit of my way around)
[01:27] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, what have you done so far?
[01:28] <TeamColtra> Well I tried firestarter first -- because I remembered that it had an internet sharing tool... but it doesn't play well with dhcp and is highly out of date. So then I learned that Ubuntu now comes with internet sharing by default so I found the link I provided above. Followed it. I also plugged another device in to see if it was my xbox or my computer
[01:28] <qin> TeamColtra: Not sure what xbox is (mean how to use it), but you want to build bridge interface binding wlan0 with eth0, and set iptables.
[01:29] <TeamColtra> the other device didn't work either.  I then tried (at the suggestion of the guy above) setting dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[01:29] <TeamColtra> and then thats when he left after asking me to do a traceroute
[01:29] <Guest21598> qin: if he bridges it, I don't think he'll need to use iptables
[01:29] <TheMatrix3000_> haha i did a chown on 40 folders and im at 3.5 load lol
[01:29] <TheMatrix3000_> on a 8 core server
[01:29] <qin> TeamColtra: In other hand never seen wifi-cable bridge.
[01:29] <TheMatrix3000_> wifi to ethernet bridge?
[01:30] <Guest21598> create a new bridge (br0) bridging the wireless & eth0, use br0 with dhcp to get your IP from the wireless router, and the xbox will have direct access to the dhcp on the wireless router as well since its simply bridged/switched
[01:30] <qin> Guest21598:
[01:30] <qin> Guest21598: It make sens...
[01:30] <TheMatrix3000_> it would work
[01:30] <TheMatrix3000_> all you have to do is bridging
[01:31] <Guest21598> that is a "simple" way.. but bridging and ubuntu network-manager is not simple for a novice
[01:31] <TeamColtra> so bridge-utils?
[01:31] <Guest21598> yes
[01:32] <TeamColtra> :P Well I am just going to have to muscle my way through it, thats how I go from novice to expert
[01:32] <TheMatrix3000_> yep
[01:32] <TheMatrix3000_> hey, i am a windows admin, in a linux world
[01:32] <TeamColtra> (lol and when I say muscle my way through it... try and try... and then maybe come in here and get more input from you guys :P )
[01:32] <qin> Guest21598: How br0 can get lease from router?
[01:32] <TheMatrix3000_> i have a ton of windows server certs, and yet my company i work for is 98% ubuntu
[01:33] <Guest21598> un-installing network manager would be a good first move.. but mind you, you are using wireless... that makes the learning curve to do it all manually much steeper :/
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> to bad there aren't ubuntu certs
[01:33] <Wiesshund> just a side note, i found new xbox wifi dongles for 36 dollars :)
[01:33] <Guest21598> TheMatrix3000_, there are linux certs (LPIC/LPI)
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> yea
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> but those arent just ubuntu lol
[01:33] <ntr0py> Is a GF215 chip fast enough to run Compiz / Natty on it?
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> haha
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> there's differences from system to system
[01:33] <TheMatrix3000_> i mean distro to distro
[01:33] <bazhang> !ot | TheMatrix3000_
[01:34] <TeamColtra> Wiesshund, but again -- I have a fully capable system right here... why would I buy something new?
[01:34] <Guest21598> qin: assuming you are not using network-manager, you simply refer to br0 in your /etc/network/interfaces file the same as you would for an eth0 eth1, etc
[01:34] <karta> rules shmules
[01:34] <Guest21598> ntr0py, I would assume no problems with that card
[01:34] <ntr0py> it needs one second to resize windows...
[01:35] <cyperbg> guys I have a very weird problem with my wifi connection - once I install the Ati video drivers it get corrupted
[01:35] <cyperbg> any ideas?
[01:35] <qin> Guest21598: Hm, did not crossed my mind, thanks.
[01:35] <cyperbg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633324/
[01:35] <TheMatrix3000_> picky picky, here this may help you
[01:35] <TheMatrix3000_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269235
[01:35] <TheMatrix3000_> that may help you solve your issue, as they look into performing bridging or "ICS"
[01:35] <Guest21598> cyperbg, your wifi gets corrupted?
[01:36] <ntr0py> What graphic Chip would be best to run Compiz in 1920*1080?
[01:36] <cyperbg> Guest21598 I don't know how to explain it better, but it is working up intil the point where I install the Ati drivers and restart
[01:36] <Guest21598> TheMatrix3000_, I think ICS would normally mean you are acting as a gateway using forwarding... not bridging.. but of course both can accomplish the same thing
[01:36] <rufian> anyone can help me with something that looks like a kernel panic?
[01:36] <gerdon> ubuntu installers won't detect my IDE hard drive in my antique dell for installation.  sudo fdisk -l however does see the drive.  i can never manage to install to it.
[01:37] <anonboo> rufian, Ask away
[01:37] <Wiesshund> gerdon how antique is said dell?
[01:37] <Guest21598> gerdon, have you tried an older version of ubuntu? circa 6.06 or something?
[01:37] <gerdon> its a pentium 4 3.2ghz
[01:37] <gerdon> i'm using 10.04
[01:37] <Guest21598> oh.. current ubuntu should be fine with that
[01:37] <qin> gerdon: Did you try to mount it?
[01:37] <gerdon> the partition table is wiped on that drive
[01:37] <rufian> sometimes... my laptop crash. I leave it idle... and then I found it with blank screen, and fans at full speed. I have to make REISUB to reboot it.
[01:38] <gerdon> nothing to mount.
[01:38] <Guest21598> when you are in the installer, does it list the drive?
[01:38] <gerdon> it does not list the drive in the installer
[01:38] <cyperbg> guys anyone to help on my weird wifi connection problem?
[01:38] <qin> gerdon: Is it /dev/sda ??
[01:39] <gerdon> it sure is qin however its an IDE drive
[01:39] <ntr0py> gerdon: is there a /dev/sdX device?
[01:39] <Guest21598> and yet if you change to tty1 (L-CTRL+ALT+F1) and sudo fdisk -l, it lists it?
[01:39] <Scunizi> I have a lot of music cd's to rip.. what's the preferred method of doing it.  via Amorak? or Banshee or a stand alone ripper like ripper-x?  I would rather the program self discover the tracks etc and do the MP3 id tags itself if possible.
[01:39] <gerdon> it lists the hard drive in gnome terminal but does not see it for the installer.
[01:40] <qin> gerdon: So, sudo mkdir /media/IDE && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/IDE
[01:40] <rhin0> maybe cyperbg
[01:40] <gerdon> qin, can in install after its mounted ?
[01:40] <qin> gerdon: Rather check and reformat drive first.
[01:41] <ntr0py> What would be the minimum requirements to run compiz smoothly in fullhd?
[01:42] <cyperbg> rhin0 what about me?
[01:42] <rhin0> whats the problem cyperbg
[01:42] <Wiesshund> ntr0py any decent 3d card, compiz is not that terrible
[01:43] <rhin0> I don't know how your video driver would be interfering with wireless cyperbg
[01:43] <rhin0> looking at output now
[01:43] <ntr0py> Wiesshund: Is Nvidia or AMD better for lnx drivers?
[01:43] <cyperbg> rhin0, I've detailed it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10985073 Please have a read, it's not long
[01:43] <wols> ntr0py: either is fine
[01:43] <j4xt0r> what do i need to write drivers on linux?
[01:43] <cyperbg> rhin0 - it definitely is interfering somehow - something about the video driver installation
[01:43] <wols> j4xt0r: knowledge
[01:43] <Wiesshund> ntr0py that i can not say, i have ATI and have had no issues, but other people have.
[01:44] <ntr0py> I not have nvidia-current on nvidia gt240 gf215 chip and its too slow to run compiz with 1280x1024
[01:44] <j4xt0r> wols yea and linux is all about free knowledge i thaught so
[01:44] <BlackSound1337> hello :)
[01:44] <gerdon> formatted drive with gparted successful.  installer still wont see it
[01:44] <j4xt0r> j4xt0r
[01:45] <BlackSound1337> can help me ?
[01:45] <wols> j4xt0r: you basically need the kernel sources and a C toolchain. Ubuntu comes with both
[01:45] <BlackSound1337> help
[01:45] <rhin0> bit out of my depth that problem cyperbg sorry
[01:45] <wols> !ask | BlackSound1337
[01:45] <j4xt0r> wols may you direct me?
[01:45] <ntr0py> Wiesshund what GPU would you recommend for fullhd?
[01:45] <BlackSound1337> how to install display drivers on BT4
[01:45] <anonboo> !backtrack | BlackSound1337
[01:45] <sudokill> backtrack?
[01:45] <sudokill> lol
[01:46] <j4xt0r> wols or how do i use them?
[01:46] <Wiesshund> ntr0py ive never had any problems with anything remotely capable of playing a 3d game at hi rez. the rez you are stating is not very big
[01:46] <wols> j4xt0r: can you program in C?
[01:46] <wols> j4xt0r: and your question is way too broad for this channel. offtopic too
[01:47] <ntr0py> weird thing is maverick was fast as hell on it, natty feels very sluggish (one sec to resize a window)...
[01:48] <Wiesshund> oh natty? no idea there i could not even get anything in compiz to function outside of unity, so i am rolling back to 10.10 for now
[01:48] <j4xt0r> wols yea i know c and c++ and a couple of other languages
[01:48] <wols> j4xt0r: then you wouldn't ask
[01:48] <anonboo> j4xt0r, http://www.linux-books.us/linux_general_0012.php
[01:49] <TeamColtra> qin, I just tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5637735&postcount=4 and restarted my computer... and now the xbox isn't even recognizing that it is plugged into a network
[01:49] <j4xt0r> wols lol no its just i thaught it was more to it then just writing code. like setting up an compiler to build them
[01:49] <Nisstyre> yes
[01:50] <ntr0py> Wiesshund: so you are using Maverick now?
[01:50] <wols> j4xt0r: the compiler is already set up. you can trivially compile your kernel in ubuntu
[01:50] <Wiesshund> ntr0py i will be soon as i finish building the flash drive
[01:50] <j4xt0r> wols kool thanks
[01:50] <wols> j4xt0r: go into a kernel source tree and run "make" and it will work
[01:51] <wols> |build-essential | j4xt0r
[01:51] <wols> !build-essential | j4xt0r
[01:51] <ntr0py> Wiesshund: you are building a flash drive?
[01:51] <Wiesshund> ntr0py yes
[01:51] <Guest21598> gerdon: you may have run into a bug where the installer won't see your drive... possibly try an older (or newer) ubuntu installer (10.04, 10.10, 11.04)
[01:52] <qin> TeamColtra: What interfaces you build bridge on?
[01:52] <Wiesshund> ntr0py i mean making a bootable one of course, not making the drive itself
[01:52] <TeamColtra> http://paste2.org/p/1490918
[01:53] <TeamColtra> qin, thats my new interface file
[01:53] <Guest21598> ntr0py, i don't recall if you said you installed latest binary driver from nvidia or not?
[01:53] <ntr0py> Guest21598: the one shipped with natty
[01:54] <TeamColtra> Oh well I see one error already I changed auto eth1 to auto wlan0 but I forgot to change line 8
[01:54] <ntr0py> Wiesshund: what drive would you go for?
[01:54] <qin> TeamColtra: ifconfig | pastebinit
[01:54] <Wiesshund> my problem in natty was nothing i turned on in compiz actually worked aside from the unity stuff.
[01:55] <Wiesshund> ntr0py drive? not sure i get your meaning? i am just using the sd card out of a camera
[01:55] <Guest21598> ntr0py, when you go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, what does it show for extra drivers for hardware
[01:55] <TeamColtra> qin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/633335/
[01:55] <qin> TeamColtra: Yes, it do not look that ok.
[01:57] <ntr0py> Guest21598: It lies about proprietary driver of nvidia is aktivated mut not in use (its activated and in use actually)...
[01:57] <TeamColtra> qin, looking at that link it looks like br0 is up and working.. .so hopefully now that i have edited the eth1 to wlan0 it should be all better now eh?
[01:57] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, line12 is wrong
[01:57] <Guest21598> you are missing wlan0
[01:57] <Guest21598> ah
[01:57] <Guest21598> nvm :>
[01:58] <TeamColtra> Oh and that
[01:58] <TeamColtra> So pay more attention and replace all the eth1s with wlan0 and all should be good... then do I need to restart my computer again?
[01:59] <Guest21598> ntr0py, and when you go to System > Preferences > Appearance what does it have for Visual Effects?
[01:59] <qin> TeamColtra: Just networking
[01:59] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, yes, reboot is simplest method to guarantee clean changes
[01:59] <qin> TeamColtra: ...or reboot.
[01:59] <TeamColtra> :P This is why I love #ubuntu always get two sides of a coin
[01:59] <ntr0py> Guest21598: none, compiz is running
[02:00] <TeamColtra> Meh I will just reboot its not like it takes more than a minute anyway
[02:00] <TeamColtra> brb
[02:00] <blargg> I've got a program that's ending with "Segmentation fault". How can I get a backtrace or similar?
[02:00] <TeamColtra> wait before I go... was there anything else you guys noticed that was wrong that I should fix?
[02:00] <Guest21598> ntr0py, what happens if you try either of the other two options on Visual Effects?
[02:00] <Guest21598> mhm, sec TeamColtra
[02:01] <Guest21598> TeamColtra, give it a try...
[02:01] <TeamColtra> :) okay brb
[02:01] <ntr0py> Guest21598: i dont know what you are talking about in apperence there are no visual effects anymore...
[02:01] <Guest21598> ntr0py, ahh.. I am on 10.04 ... sorry
[02:02] <ntr0py> Guest21598: but i missed them there too...
[02:02] <Guest21598> how much memory you have?
[02:02] <ntr0py> 16GB
[02:02] <ntr0py> 1GB gfx
[02:02] <Guest21598> i would try following manual install of latest nvidia drivers... find a howto for it
[02:03] <Guest21598> no reason your GF215 shouldn't work
[02:03] <Guest21598> with natty
[02:03] <Guest21598> work better*
[02:03] <ntr0py> Guest21598 i think there is something wrong with the compiz mods of natty
[02:03] <ntr0py> Guest21598 unity and stuff, maybe thats the reason its so sluggish
[02:03] <optio> hey guys can i ask a support question here?
[02:03] <Guest21598> you have latest updates & kernel installed?
[02:04] <Doran> I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 (went with older for more stability) on an old Toshiba Satellite using the alternate disc because I couldn't get any of the live CDs I tried to work on it, and it gets to login window, but if I actually log in, it just plays the sound and shows the wallpaper and freezes
[02:04] <ntr0py> yep
[02:04] <Guest21598> !ask Operaattori
[02:04] <Doran> any ideas what I should do next?
[02:04] <Guest21598> !ask optio
[02:04] <Doran> I haven't had to do this sort of tweaking to make an install work yet, really
[02:04] <Doran> and don't know where to start
[02:05] <anth0ny> Hello
[02:05] <qin> !ask | optio
[02:05] <Guest21598> Doran, i would suggest logging into console (L-CTRL+ALT+F1) login, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and then reboot when its done
[02:05] <Doran> I don't want to upgrade to the latest because I plan on converting it to Mint
[02:05] <Doran> the older version of Mint
[02:05] <Doran> that goes with 10.10
[02:05] <Guest21598> mhm.. it will only update it to latest 10.10 with those commands
[02:05] <anth0ny> Quick question about Evolution:  How do I get to see ALL inboxes mixed into one window?  I googled it but everyone's asking how to see them separately, I don't have that aggregated view.
[02:05] <Guest21598> not 11.04
[02:05] <Doran> oh, ok
[02:05] <Doran> lol
[02:05] <Doran> sorry
[02:06] <optio> i am trying to update software and i need to accept the EULA for TrueType Font, and I cant figure out how to click on "ok" or move to the next screen. this is all through the console BTW
[02:06] <Guest21598> why not download mint 11 or the new debian mints?
[02:06] <szal> Doran: Mint is off-topic here
[02:06] <Doran> ok
[02:06] <Doran> well, it's Ubuntu right now anyway
[02:06] <Doran> and I have to get that to work
[02:06] <Doran> I have to hand this laptop off to its owner and have it work for them
[02:06] <Pehnep> Hmh, is anyone here using their Ubuntu Linux system to function as a wake up alarm?
[02:06] <Doran> and they know very little about computers
[02:06] <qin> optio: Spacebar asisted by TAB
[02:07] <Guest21598> anth0ny, create a filter (forget if thats the name) and choose what inboxes you want to display in it, and it will show up at the bottom of the account list, and be a "view" of all the boxes you chose
[02:07] <optio> wow thanks guys, im such a n00b lol
[02:07] <qin> Pehnep: Sure
[02:07] <Guest21598> Doran, unless an updated 10.10 won't work for what you need, I would try my suggestion to see if it gets you into ubuntu
[02:08] <Guest21598> any luck TeamColtra ?
[02:08] <ntr0py> Guest21598 what card would you go for a full hd setup?
[02:08] <Pehnep> Qin, I am using RTCwake right now, but usually when it emerges from sleep it doesn't continue the radio stream properly, usually only for one moment.
[02:08] <NTU> i dont like ubuntu cuz it sucks
[02:08] <NTU> why does ubuntu suck?
[02:08] <TeamColtra> opposite of luck -- it made my internet connection for my laptop not work, it still didn't work for the xbox, AND now the xbox wont recognize that it is plugged into a network anymore
[02:09] <Guest21598> ntr0py, practically speaking any new card (that is compatible with the linux drivers & ubuntu) is capable of 1080p ...
[02:09] <Guest21598> anything from a $40 card to a $400 card
[02:09] <cyperbg> guys do you see anything not being right here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633339/
[02:09] <NTU> its like really bad
[02:09] <Guest21598> full hd isn't very difficult... its the 3d for new games that is demanding
[02:09] <NTU> how about making a distro that doesn't suck?
[02:09] <NTU> thank you
[02:10] <Crazed47> irc.2600.net /join #lulzsec
[02:10] <ntr0py> Guest21598: im just thinking about abandoning nvidia  alltogether and go for an ati card (in natty compiz lags and there is no hardware acceleration for video decoding)
[02:10] <NTU> real linux people dont use ubuntu
[02:10] <NTU> THEY REALLY DONT
[02:10] <TeamColtra> NTU, stop your trolling.
[02:10] <Guest21598> Pehnep, I would suggest not pursuing that method... its too unreliable for an alarm clock... 1) worrying about computer waking up properly 2) relying on internet connection working 3) relying on radio stream not only working, but re-starting properly
[02:10] <wrapash> NTU you're a fucker
[02:10] <NTU> no you're a fucker
[02:10] <wrapash> Ubuntu rockz
[02:10] <Guest21598> ntr0py, there are problems with both, its no guarantee by switching to avoid problems.. kind of a case by case :/
[02:10] <Pehnep> Qin, would you know what might be the problem? Or what could be a good alternative? I'm using Totem Browser Plugin 2.32.0 to listen to an browser-based radio stream.
[02:10] <cyperbg> Guys please check this it is very short: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633339/
[02:11] <cyperbg> does everything seem right?
[02:11] <NTU> lol hey KindOne
[02:11] <ntr0py> Guest21598: any idea how i could find out where the problem is?
[02:11] <KM0201> cyperbg: what problem are you having?
[02:11] <Pehnep> Guest21598: What would you suggest instead?
[02:11] <NTU> the problem to all of you people..
[02:11] <cyperbg> KM0201 my wifi connection doesn't work
[02:11] <NTU> IS USING UBUNTU
[02:11] <qin> Pehnep: RTCwake? Well, I use: sleep 12000 && amixer set Master 100 % && cvlc myfavouriteradioorsong
[02:11] <NTU> STOP USING IT
[02:11] <FloodBot1> NTU: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <NTU> EVERYTHING WORKS
[02:12] <KM0201> cyperbg: whats your wireless device?
[02:12] <NTU> woo!
[02:12] <KindOne> NTU: that is highly offtopic here
[02:12] <NTU> bullshit it is
[02:12] <TeamColtra> !ops
[02:12] <cyperbg> TP-Link TL-WN821N listed as compatible and using he ar9170usb driver
[02:12] <ntr0py> Guest21598: vainfo just tells me "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[02:12] <Pehnep> Qin, "12000" being the time in seconds?
[02:13] <cyperbg> KM0201 can I ask you to read my thread in the Ubuntu forums which details my exact problem - it's not very long. Please
[02:13] <Guest21598> Pehnep, 1) not relying on internet radio (use mp3's or cd's) 2) if you find sleep/resume to be reliable then okay, otherwise run your pc 24/7, or buy an alarm clock with radio :(
[02:13] <KM0201> cyperbg: yeah, sure.. not sure i'll have an answer, but i'll take a look.
[02:13] <cyperbg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10985073#post10985073
[02:13] <qin> Pehnep: Yes, you can use more sophisticated script to just give it a time, or use "at"
[02:13] <cyperbg> KM0201 it is a very weird problem, you might find it interesting
[02:13] <Pehnep> Hmh, let me try this whole sleep thing for a second, thanks so far.
[02:14] <adgege> me
[02:14] <Guest21598> qin, or crontab for a repeatable alarm
[02:14] <cyperbg> KM0201 basically I install the Ati video drivers and my wifi connection gets corrupted
[02:14] <KM0201> cyperbg: so am i understanding correctly... your wireless device works fine, then you install the ATI driver, and it stops working?
[02:15] <cyperbg> KM0201 exactly
[02:15] <KM0201> cyperbg: yeah, that is a weird one....
[02:15] <cyperbg> did at least 5 reinstalls already - everytime the same problem
[02:15] <qin> Guest21598: Yeah, I could make use of it right now... How to make linux serve coffee?
[02:16] <stercor> I'm using 10.04 netbook remix on my, um, netbook.  I'd like to upgrade to a non-netbook-remix.  How can I do this and keep my files?
[02:16] <KM0201> cyperbg: that is very weird..
[02:16] <cyperbg> KM0201 please have a look here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/633339/
[02:16] <cyperbg> firmware=N/A - is that good?
[02:16] <cyperbg> also bus info: firewire@1
[02:16] <Guest21598> ntr0py, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[02:16] <Guest21598> try installing the drivers from nvidia.. is my first suggestion
[02:17] <KM0201> cyperbg: well, i'd say the firmware=n/a could be a problem.
[02:17] <qin> stercor: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:17] <stercor> qin: yes.
[02:17] <cyperbg> KM0201 can you guide me on how to install the firmware for my wifi device?
[02:17] <KM0201> cyperbg: honestly, i'm not aware of firmware out there for atheros devices...
[02:17] <Guest21598> cyperbg, try running your lshw with sudo for more info
[02:17] <Guest21598> and try lspci
[02:17] <stercor> qin: I'll try that.
[02:18] <stercor>  qin brb...
[02:18] <qin> stercor: You will need to choose session at gdm login.
[02:19] <KM0201> cyperbg: i have a ton of atheros devices, and have never needed a firmware upgrade to make them work... actually, they all "just work".. sd
[02:19] <KM0201> cyperbg: wait a second.. you have ubuntu 32bit... you're installing the ATI 64bit driver
[02:20] <cyperbg> KM0201 mine also just works but not when I install the ati driversa
[02:20] <KM0201> cyperbg: you're using ubuntu 32bit, why are you installing the 64bit driver?
[02:20] <Guest21598> you don't need a firmware upgrade, but you may need the windows driver and ndiswrapper or something
[02:20] <KM0201> Guest21598: atheros doesn't require ndiswrapper either
[02:20] <cyperbg> KM0201 isn't that the 32bit version? http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-5-x86.x86_64.run
[02:21] <Guest21598> cyperbg, that looks like a x86 & x86_64 version .. so it should be okay
[02:21] <KM0201> cyperbg: x86_64   looks like 64bit to me.. i dunno.
[02:21] <Guest21598> it should run if its incorrect anyway
[02:21] <Guest21598> KM0201, looks like both in one file
[02:21] <KM0201> ya
[02:21] <TeamColtra> Guest21598 qin --  I think I might just give in and buy the WIFI dongle :(
[02:21] <cyperbg> Ati website this as the latest x86 version: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-6-x86.x86_64.run
[02:22] <cyperbg> I'm thinking of offering a prize for anyone that solves my problem
[02:22] <qin> TeamColtra: Do you have any other device to test bridge?
[02:23] <KM0201> cyperbg: dunno, that's the strangest problem i've ever read.
[02:23] <plum> hey guys, can someone help me install a different browser in lxde that i am controlling over vnc?
[02:23] <TeamColtra> qin my other device is a tablet and hasn't been working either
[02:24] <acicula> cyperbg: are you having a problemm with wireless or graphics?
[02:24] <cyperbg> acicula wireless
[02:25] <acicula> cyperbg: then you will not need those drivers
[02:25] <cyperbg> acicula are you suggesting I don't install video drivers?
[02:26] <qin> TeamColtra: can you paste ifconfig, will test similar setup and get back to you in few hours.
[02:26] <acicula> cyperbg: i dont see how that would solve your wireless problems, and in general its a much better choice to stick with the ubuntu provided drivers which can be installed via the hardware driver program
[02:27] <cyperbg> acicula, I will be using this machine for bitcoin mining and I'm not sure the source drivers are suitable
[02:27] <stercor> qin: Well, I installed ubuntu-desktop.  How can I change the GUI away from the remix; like the one on the Ubuntu desktop?
[02:27] <IsleVegan> greetings. my drupal 7 site on ubuntu 11.04 is not sending email for account creation, password retrieval, etc. i think this has been a problem since it was freshly installed. not sure where / how to start a resolution. i already asked in the #drupal room but have not received a response yet.
[02:27] <cyperbg> btw are they source of proprietary?
[02:27] <TeamColtra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633346/ but this is back with default setings since I can't be online with the bridge method apparently
[02:28] <acicula> cyperbg: if you activated hardware drivers then the proprietary ones were installed
[02:28] <cyperbg> hm I might try that then
[02:29] <optio> how can i add a repository to apt-get?
[02:30] <acicula> cyperbg: ah i see, your forum post is a bit cryptic, you do not have a wireless problem, but you are trying to install those drivers and then it gets hosed?
[02:30] <acicula> cyperbg: afaik you can just grab the stream sdk and compile the test samples, if those work with the hardware driver ubuntu installs for you then it'll work with that bitcoin program
[02:32] <szal> IdleOne: ping
[02:32] <acicula> optio: you can add repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list or create a yourrepo.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ just be sure to include proper repos, including things like debian repositories will give you a lot of problems
[02:33] <acicula> IsleVegan: best check where your drupal installation is sending mail to and whether that gets accepted?
[02:33] <IdleOne> szal: ?
[02:33] <szal> IdleOne: connection spam
[02:34] <cyperbg> acicula the wifi connection gets corrupted before even installing the AMD Stream 32-bit SDK
[02:34] <szal> thx
[02:34] <IdleOne> thank you
[02:34] <cyperbg> acicula on my last fresh reinstalled the only thing I installed was the Ati Video drivers
[02:34] <cyperbg> and then bam - no wifi
[02:35] <IsleVegan> acicula : not sure how i would check that. drupal tells me "Error message Unable to send e-mail. Contact the site administrator if the problem persists." when i request password for an existing account.
[02:35] <acicula> the ati video drivers the way that guide describes them/
[02:35] <acicula> ?
[02:35] <Mysterytrain> how do you turn off firewall in ubuntu? I can't ssh into my box from the lan
[02:36] <acicula> IsleVegan: sounds like you need to check if you can actually send mail?
[02:36] <qin> TeamColtra: Ok, will /msg when something cross my brain.
[02:36] <acicula> Mysterytrain: sudo ufw disable, but is off by default
[02:36] <midoski> I need a script to run as another user
[02:36] <midoski> what's the best way to go about this
[02:36] <wildgoose> Mysterytrain, only open the port you need.
[02:36] <IsleVegan> acicula : most likely yes. what is the best way to do that?
[02:36] <Mysterytrain> I did sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start but my ssh client says connection refused
[02:36] <cyperbg> acicula on my last fresh reinstalled all I did was: sudo apt-get http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-5-x86.x86_64.run and then sudo sh ati-driver-installer-11-5-x86.x86_64.run
[02:36] <jrib> midoski: give more context.  One time?
[02:37] <learningc> what 's the difference between a live version of ubuntu and the installed version?
[02:37] <jrib> Mysterytrain: use « service » not « /etc/init.d »
[02:37] <midoski> jrib, lighttpd needs to spawn fcgi servers per virtual host
[02:37] <midoski> i want to spawn the fcgi servers as the user the site is for
[02:37] <jrib> learningc: on the live version, your changes are lost when you reboot
[02:37] <midoski> or hosted under, rather
[02:37] <IsleVegan> learningc: one difference is that the live version does not save or change anything on the computer.
[02:38] <jrib> midoski: where will you be spawning them?  Cron?
[02:38] <Mysterytrain> jrib wha:t's the difference?
[02:38] <learningc> but is the directory structures the same?
[02:38] <IsleVegan> learningc: it is mainly used to see what ubuntu looks like, check for hardware compatibility and maybe do some hard drive partitioning / resizing
[02:38] <midoski> jrib, well in the lighttpd config you can execute a shell script if the fcgi server isn't found
[02:38] <jrib> Mysterytrain: service plays nice with upstart
[02:38] <midoski> jrib so it's up for discussion as to /how/ the fcgi server should spawn
[02:38] <Mysterytrain> ok
[02:38] <midoski> either way i need it to
[02:38] <Mysterytrain> so sudo server ssh start
[02:38] <Mysterytrain> service*
[02:39] <IsleVegan> learningc: i don't know much about that, sorry. perhaps you can be more detailed in your inquiry to get a response from others.
[02:39] <jrib> midoski: well you can use su or sudo to execute things as another user, but you need to authenticate (as the user for the 'su' case and as a the user executing the command, who should have sudo access, in the sudo case)
[02:39] <green91> can anyone explain to the the difference between the "service" command and simply using /etc/init.d/(prog) to control service reloads/start/stops ?
[02:39] <Mysterytrain> hrm. connection refused
[02:39] <jrib> green91: in the case of ssh, the /etc/init.d/ script does NOT go through upstart
[02:40] <jrib> Mysterytrain: try « ssh localhost » locally on the server
[02:40] <midoski> jrib, alright, is there a way to pass su (or sudo) the password without interactive mode?
[02:40] <midoski> i didnt see it last time i glanced
[02:40] <acicula> cyperbg: yeah dont do that, just use the hardware driver tool, ubuntu should probably ask you if you want the proprietary drivers
[02:40] <Mysterytrain> connection refused. this is ubuntu in a vm.
[02:40] <Jamesboo_> hi, I am trying to use Ubuntu from a 2Gb flash drive.... It seems to be working fine, I have booted up a new mahince into ubuntu, but it wont let me download anythin
[02:40] <jrib> Mysterytrain: you can't ssh localhost on the server?
[02:40] <Jamesboo_> is it becuase my flash drive is out of disc space?
[02:40] <Mysterytrain> no
[02:40] <jrib> Mysterytrain: is sshd running...?
[02:40] <learningc> if I verbatim copy the live cd on my harddisk and mae my harddisk bootable to that partition, will it be the same to a regular installed ubuntu apart from no change saved due to a config file?
[02:40] <acicula> IsleVegan: whatever drupal/php has configured as maildaemon has trouble sending it
[02:41] <Mysterytrain> I got ubuntu running in vmware player, with bridged connection. I then fired up cygwin and tried to ssh into user@127.0.0.1 and got connection refused
[02:41] <acicula> IsleVegan: if you dont know how or why then thats why its not working
[02:41] <jrib> Mysterytrain: I didn't tell you to do that
[02:41] <Mysterytrain> that's what I did before I got here
[02:41] <rewt> Mysterytrain, cygwin in ubuntu?
[02:41] <jrib> Mysterytrain: what about what I asked you about?
[02:41] <green91> jrib: what is upstart
[02:41] <jrib> !upstart | green91
[02:42] <acicula> Mysterytrain: 127.0.0.1 exists only within the is, you have to attach a nic to the bridge you made, assign that an ip and use that to ssh into
[02:42] <green91> thanks
[02:42] <cyperbg> acicula I'm gonna do a fresh install now and try that
[02:42] <Mysterytrain> mrm
[02:42] <Jamesboo_> anyone can help me?  Im trying to use ubunutu from a 2GB flash drive....
[02:42] <Mysterytrain> ok lemme do this. I'm going to restart the virtual machine and try it fresh
[02:42] <Jamesboo_> I have ubuntu booted
[02:43] <jrib> midoski: you could give the user that will be executing the command the ability to execute it without requiring a password by using sudoers.  But are you sure there isn't some standard, well-documented way to accomplish what you are asking about?
[02:43] <sudokill> \''/ (^_^) \''/
[02:43] <jrib> !who | Mysterytrain
[02:43] <midoski> jrib, lighttpd + django isn't mega well documented
[02:43] <midoski> especially in multi site setups
[02:43] <midoski> which is what im doing
[02:44] <jrib> midoski: what user does lightppd run as and what user do you want to spawn the fcgi instances?
[02:44] <midoski> jrib, lighttpd runs as 'www-data' and i have a 'start_fcgi.sh' script on UserA and UserB
[02:45] <simone> i'm italian ;)
[02:45] <acicula> learningc: no, the way the live cd/dvd is packaged is veyr different from a normal disk installation, best to just follow the normal installer
[02:45] <midoski> currently I just joined www-data to the UserA and UserB group so it can spawn it itself, but it's not safe since now any python scripts from UserA could technically look at UserB's shit
[02:45] <szal> simone: and?
[02:45] <linux_is_my_hero> how do remove things from the little envelope menu on 10.10?
[02:45] <bsmith093> im using top to see whats running, does the time+ column mean total time running, or cumulative time active
[02:45] <midoski> so i need www-data to run start_fcgi.sh as UserA if needed but also run start_fcgi.sh as UserB if needed
[02:45] <jrib> midoski: well what I suggested above about using NOPASSWD for that command in sudoers should work, but I'd suggest asking lightppd to see if they are familiar with what you are doing
[02:45] <anth0ny> so, what's the standard go-to for a text-editor for programming in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <rewt> Mysterytrain, if sshd is running in the vm, and you want to connect to it from the host, it's not 127.0.0.1, you have to use the ip of the vm
[02:45] <midoski> jrib, I'll head over to their IRC, it's pretty dead though
[02:45] <midoski> thank you for the help
[02:46] <midoski> www-data is a very protected user so NOPASSWD might get me somewhere
[02:46] <Mysterytrain> rewt: ok, I've just rebooted them vm.
[02:46] <jrib> midoski: just give NOPASSWD to that user for that specific command
[02:46] <midoski> jrib, i'll try to see how to do that
[02:46] <midoski> jrib, I'm sure the answer is in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[02:47] <jrib> midoski: « man sudoers » certainly
[02:47] <midoski> jrib, of course
[02:47] <IsleVegan> acicula: Drupal 6 on previous versions of Ubuntu worked fine to send mail to new users before. I don't think I did any configuration. However, since Drupal 7 has been installed on Ubuntu 11.04 it does not send email and I don't know what to do.
[02:48] <jrib> IsleVegan: you definitely need to install some sort of MTA to be able to send mail
[02:48] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone sick of 11.04 yet?
[02:48] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: why would someone be sick of it?
[02:49] <cyperbg> Jamesboo_ what's the problem exactly?
[02:49] <linux_is_my_hero> 10.10 is faster, more stable, and has a better gui.
[02:49] <szal> there can be reasons, but this is not the place to discuss them
[02:49] <IsleVegan> jrib : i did the apt-get install of all the lamp stuff, like i did before.
[02:49] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: so use 10.10
[02:49] <linux_is_my_hero> i do :-)
[02:49] <aeon-ltd> linux_is_my_hero: stock maybe and perhaps only in your case
[02:49] <Jamesboo_> cyperbg....im trying to use ubuntu....booting my machine from a flash drive
[02:49] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: it sounds like your cmplaint w/ 11.04 is unity.
[02:49] <Jamesboo_> I only have a 2Gb flash drive
[02:49] <acicula> IsleVegan: if this is a server you must have had some smtp configuration set, its not something that automagically works. best place to start is in your log files,syslog,mail etc if it was working before
[02:49] <jrib> IsleVegan: there's no MTA there...
[02:50] <linux_is_my_hero> what in 11.04 would make it slower?
[02:50] <Jamesboo_> it boots....but to i need to install the desktop to be able to download diles?
[02:50] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: use xubuntu or lubuntu if you don't like unity.
[02:50] <cyperbg> Jamesboo_ that's what I do at the moment, but during installation it tellms me it needs 4.4GB of space
[02:50] <cyperbg> maybe you don't have anough space
[02:50] <Jamesboo_> i dont think i do....
[02:50] <Jamesboo_> do you mine bitcoins?
[02:50] <linux_is_my_hero> lubuntu...what's that?
[02:50] <IsleVegan> acicula : ok, this is a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 on a linode.com virtual server
[02:51] <IsleVegan> jrib : ok, i'll have to see what mta means
[02:51] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: ubuntu w/ lxde
[02:51] <KM0201> !lubuntu
[02:51] <sw0rdfish> err! did they remove the "mget" command in sftp????
[02:51] <jrib> IsleVegan: try exim for example
[02:51] <acicula> IsleVegan: then you need to install an mail daemon and configure it to send out emails
[02:51] <cyperbg> Jamesboo_ not at the moment, but I will when I manage to solve my problem
[02:51] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: it'll have official canonical support for 11.10.. up to now, been a community version
[02:51] <acicula> IsleVegan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4
[02:51] <Jamesboo_> cyperbg: whats your problem.,,, what size flash drive are you using?
[02:52] <Scunizi> what do I use to rip cd's? audio?
[02:52] <cyperbg> Jamesboo_ 8GB - I have very weird wifi issues
[02:52] <vorbis5> Help: when I try to update GeoIP database for tor I get the error:
[02:52] <Mysterytrain> ok, we have progress somehwat. from another box on the lan, I get connection timed out when connection to the address of the vm. from the same box, I get connection refused
[02:52] <acicula> heu thats for receiving mail, he needs one for sending
[02:53] <jrib> Mysterytrain: on the server, run « ssh localhost »
[02:53] <Mysterytrain> ok
[02:53] <vorbis5> Help: when I try to update GeoIP database for tor I get the error: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources" tor tor-geoipdb!
[02:53] <linux_is_my_hero> KM0201: for now...how do i remove  and add things to the little envelope menu on the top bar?
[02:53] <robinsch> anyone here using rtorrent
[02:53] <Mysterytrain> jrib: give me a bit here, I'm shuffling back and forth between two computers.
[02:53] <Logan_> !anyone | robinsch
[02:53] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: dunno, i dn't use it.. i just uninstall it.
[02:54] <linux_is_my_hero> how'd you do that?
[02:54] <IsleVegan> acicula & jrib : ok, looking at exim, via the link provided.
[02:54] <linux_is_my_hero> KM0201: how'd you do that?
[02:54] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: I uninstalled it
[02:54] <robinsch> can I get help with rtorrent?
[02:54] <acicula> IsleVegan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer also has more pointers
[02:54] <cyperbg> vorbis5 I'm not a linux guru but have you enabled the required sources from the Synaptec Manager?
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> robinsch: again ask your real question, if you're using ubuntu then yes
[02:55] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: oh, how did i uninstall it?.. it's an indicator applet... just search synaptic for it, and uninstall it... and away it goes... i can't remember the name of it specifically
[02:55] <Mysterytrain> jrib: ok, I did ssh localhost and got the usual "the authenticity of blah blah cannot be blah blah"
[02:55] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to remove or add things to the little envelope menu on the top bar?
[02:55] <reliablenerd> robinsch, not sure what you need http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
[02:55] <linux_is_my_hero> KM0201: okay
[02:55] <jrib> Mysterytrain: and you ignored it and you were able to login?
[02:55] <robinsch> the thing is when I change .rtorrent.rc file, rtorrent nolonger starts up
[02:55] <vorbis5> cyperbg, not sure which ones those are
[02:55] <IsleVegan> acicula : i will read that too, thank you
[02:55] <acicula> vorbis5: on the website of tor where you can find the repositories you can also find instructions on how to add the keys for that repository
[02:55] <KM0201> linux_is_my_hero: but it's something like notification-indicator or something like that
[02:55] <Mysterytrain> jrib: yes
[02:55] <robinsch> i don't know what I am doing wrong, i just set dht to disable
[02:56] <jrib> Mysterytrain: then ssh is fine, the issue is with your network setup
[02:56] <vorbis5> acicula thanks ill take a look
[02:56] <robinsch> i looked online and no help
[02:56] <cyperbg> vorbis5 check that: http://g3n1k.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/the-action-would-require-the-installation-of-packages-from-not-authenticated-sources/
[02:56] <Mysterytrain> jrib: where should I look. portforwarding?
[02:57] <VerticalAsymptot> test
[02:57] <robinsch> anyone
[02:57] <robinsch> ?
[02:57] <dr_willis> robinsch,  you edit one file.. restart the client.. and it then fails to load?
[02:58] <robinsch> yes
[02:58] <johnnynyquist> Hi folks- I just finished an upgrade to lucid and I am having X problems.  X reports: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so: undefined symbol: drm_intel_bo_disable_reuse
[02:58] <dr_willis> how are you editing the file?
[02:58] <IdleOne> then undo the edit
[02:58] <robinsch> nano
[02:58] <dr_willis> You are quiting the program first?
[02:58] <johnnynyquist> xorg folks tell me that libdrm_intel is "out of sync with the driver" but dpkg reports both packages are current
[02:58] <robinsch> I undo the edit and it works
[02:58] <robinsch> but I want to disable dht
[02:59] <dr_willis> sounds like the docs maybe out of date. or you are doing the edit wrong.. (a typo)
[02:59] <acicula> johnnynyquist: how did you upgrade?
[02:59] <dr_willis> there is proberly an #rtorrent channel
[02:59] <johnnynyquist> manually from jaunty to karmic (edited sources.list) and then do-release-upgrade from karmic to lucid
[02:59] <maverikh> hi, i have Ubuntu server 11.04 and Webmin 1.550 and Samaba server installed.  Im having issues setting up a share the way i need too.... open a chat window with me please, its easier for me to follow
[03:00] <itaylor57> !webmin
[03:00] <dr_willis> maverikh,  best to not use webmin on ubuntu based systems. Its not supported on ubuntu. and you can edit the samba configs directrly as you need for the most part.
[03:00] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc | maverikh
[03:01] <acicula> johnnynyquist: the error is due to binaries that are mismatched
[03:02] <acicula> you could try purging the package the driver belongs to, and make sure there are no old packages left in the sources.list file and directory.
[03:02] <maverikh> i think i figured it out.... i had to set the main folder to 777... forgot that step
[03:02] <mcurran> I have some avi files that I'm trying to play, and I'm just getting a black screen (video).  There are some codecs availalbe on the disc that has these avi's, called VerintVideoSolutions Codecs.  I tried installing these codecs on a VM and the avi's won't even play on Windows 7.  Anyone got any ideas for me?
[03:03] <johnnynyquist> acicula: when I apt-get remove libdrm-intel1 it wants to dump the entire system ("3,347 MB of disk space will be freed...") what's the trick to tell it to ignore dependencies?
[03:03] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install angry birds on ubuntu 10.10?
[03:04] <aeon-ltd> linux_is_my_hero: use chrome, then install inside chrome
[03:04] <Guest21598> cyperbg, http://www.quora.com/Bitcoin/Is-the-cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-a-good-idea
[03:04] <acicula> johnnynyquist: eh i think you can use a --ignore-deps flag or someting. man apt-get describes the options
[03:04] <Guest21598> IsleVegan, drupal issues would be out of scope for this channel... check back to the drupal chan, or go googling I would suggest
[03:04] <Flannel> Guest21598: Please keep offtopic chatter out of this channel, thanks.
[03:05] <acicula> johnnynyquist: though id probably just wipre and reinstall at this point
[03:05] <linux_is_my_hero> after that where does it put it?
[03:05] <linux_is_my_hero> aeon-ltd: where does it put it after you install it inside chrome?
[03:06] <IsleVegan> gotta find that ignore feature
[03:07] <johnnynyquist> acicula: I was afraid you'd say that
[03:08] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero: Are you familiar with the hidden folders in your home directory?
[03:08] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: no not that, i mean how do i launch angry bird once its installed
[03:08] <edbian> linux_is_my_hero: I have no idea.  I don't even know how you installed it inside chrome
[03:08] <acicula> johnnynyquist: upgrading by bumping versions in sources.list is a guaranteed way of creating  heaps of problems
[03:09] <linux_is_my_hero> edbian: neither do i, lol
[03:09] <robinsch> mmm true blood
[03:10] <MK``> When I am booting up, it says "Starting K Display Manager", but I uninstalled kdm. Where can I find the source of this error?
[03:10] <acicula> MK``: probably the startup script that does it
[03:11] <acicula> it should have removed that if you removed kdm though
[03:11] <fusss2> Hi, I installed Ubuntu via WUPI to sit alongside Windows. Now, how do I remove Windows & make Ubuntu permanent OS? I have 300GB disk and Ubuntu only see a max of 30GB
[03:11] <MK``> Should i reinstall kdm, and purge it?
[03:12] <KM0201> fusss2: wubi depends on windows...
[03:12] <acicula> doubt that will work MK``
[03:12] <KM0201> you' have to reinstall
[03:12] <MK``> ok, where can I find the script?
[03:12] <edbian> fusss2: wubi actually creates a file on your NTFS partition.  If you delete windows you will also delete your wubi install.  ARe you faily attached to this install?
[03:12] <Flannel> MK``: That'd be something to try, yes.
[03:12] <fusss2> KM0201: awwww :-| I have already grown into my setup
[03:12] <krux> linux_is_my_hero, you use gnome ?. if so do you have a wine folder under Applications ?.. at least that is what i found out online..
[03:12] <acicula> MK``: eh /etc/init probably
[03:12] <TrevInc> fusss2: you need to copy your files in your ubuntu folder
[03:12] <KM0201> fusss2: wubi is a mess anyway, you're lucky you haven't bricked ubuntu and windows
[03:13] <TrevInc> one of those enormous files is your ubuntu virtual disk
[03:13] <fusss2> edbian: I don't mind reinstalling if: 1) I can somehow get back all my installed apps, via backup/restore. 2) migration doesn't take more than a day
[03:13] <edbian> fusss2: There are ways to migrate wubi to a real install.  I suggest simply saving your personal files (home folder) and installing ubuntu a-new
[03:13] <edbian> fusss2: migration and re-installing are the 2 alternative.  They are not the same.
[03:14] <edbian> fusss2: re-installing (by definition) means not having your apps.  But how hard is it to download them from the repos again?
[03:14] <edbian> fusss2: The hard part is your personal files.  Those cannot be re-created.  (your home folder)
[03:15] <fusss2> edbian: yeah, I know. I have those in external HD + dropbox anyway
[03:15] <edbian> fusss2: Then I would just re-install.  Either way it will take less than a day.  Unless you count the time it takes to learn how to do a wubi install
[03:16] <midoski> when I edit the sudoers file via visudo
[03:16] <midoski> when do the changse take effect?
[03:16] <MK``> Should I delete kdm.conf?
[03:16] <fusss2> edbian: installation is alright.
[03:16] <fusss2> cheers all!
[03:16] <Flannel> MK``: No, it'll do that when you purge it
[03:16] <MK``> ok
[03:17] <Flannel> midoski: once you save it (and it actually saves)
[03:17] <midoski> Flannel, alright
[03:17] <midoski> Flannel, well I wrote a sudoers rule, and it didn't stick
[03:17] <midoski> I guess I'm doing something dumb
[03:18] <Flannel> midoski: Did it successfully save?  visudo checks the syntax and won't save (although I always thought it gave you an error)
[03:18] <midoski> Flannel, yes
[03:18] <Flannel> wont save if there's a syntax error
[03:18] <midoski> Flannel, "/etc/sudoers.tmp" 28L, 643C written
[03:18] <Flannel> midoski: right, that's your editor saving it to a temp file, then you close the editor, visudo realizes you're done, and does its magic (copies it back, etc)
[03:18] <midoski> alright
[03:18] <midoski> lemme give it a try
[03:18] <MK``> ok, installed and purged and that config file is gone. I wonder if that was the source of some issues I was having
[03:19] <midoski> Flannel, it's still not working apparently
[03:19] <midoski> Flannel, http://linuxlol.pastebay.com/127272 I have this little config
[03:19] <midoski> that should let www-data run that command as user 'max'
[03:19] <midoski> but it asks for a password
[03:19] <awaad> Is there any free tutorials for LPIC-3 ?
[03:19] <midoski> i'm doing su -c the_command max
[03:20] <Flannel> midoski: if you visudo again, do you see your changes?
[03:20] <midoski> Flannel, yes
[03:20] <midoski> I also vim /etc/sudoers and the changes are there
[03:20] <Flannel> midoski: Alright, so it's a config issue, not a sudoers editing issue.
[03:20] <midoski> Flannel, all signs point to yes
[03:20] <midoski> Flannel, I linked you my current additions to the sudoers file
[03:21] <darkenergy> Hey, how do i use rmdir to remove a directory that has children?
[03:22] <midoski> darkenergy, rm -R ./thedirectory
[03:22] <quickslvr> We have 50GB added to a mount point in Logical Volume. How do i verify the 50GB is available on the mount point before extending?
[03:22] <darkenergy> midoski, oh so it doesn't work at all with rmdir huh?
[03:22] <Flannel> midoski: first off, you want to use sudo, not su.
[03:22] <midoski> Flannel, baaah!
[03:22]  * midoski kicks over a table
[03:23] <Flannel> midoski: did that fix it? ;)
[03:23] <midoski> Flannel, 1 sec, trying
[03:23] <dvanderwerf>  /join #math
[03:23] <Flannel> I'm not sure it will, but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
[03:23] <Flannel> dvanderwerf: You're already in #math, by the way.
[03:24] <jimjam> hi all - is it possible to 'show technical items' by default in ubuntu software centre?
[03:24] <midoski> Flannel, :O might have worked
[03:24] <midoski> Flannel, it certainly ran, that's for sure
[03:25] <mik-moc> Hi,  i am running Ubuntu on a flash drive and was wondering why when I log in with the default account it shows my OS Drive and I can access it.  But when I log in with another admin account I can not see it.
[03:25] <dvanderwerf> anyone here interested in automated theorem proving, automated theorem verification, proof assistants and formal systems?
[03:25] <Flannel> dvanderwerf: You might try #math ;)
[03:26] <dvanderwerf> they probably are not either, seems like not too many people are
[03:26] <acicula> dvanderwerf: can you formulate that as a question?
[03:26] <Flannel> dvanderwerf: You haven't asked in there yet.  I'd say that'd be the most likely place on freenode.
[03:28] <stercor> How do I determine which screen manager I'm using?
[03:28] <Guest21598> stercor, you can usually see which one you are "picking" on the login screen
[03:28] <Guest21598> from a drop-down list
[03:29] <Guest21598> gnome, gnome safe, kde, etc
[03:29] <davric> I am trying to delete the 5th line in a directory full of html files. I am trying sed '5d' *.html but it's not quite working out
[03:30] <stercor> I just upgraded my netbook to ubuntu-desktop.  I'd like to have the same screen manager on the netbook as I have on my desktop.
[03:30] <davric> any ideas?
[03:30] <MK``> Ok, the only thing suspicious left in my boot process is "Starting automatic crash report generation     [fail]"
[03:30] <dvanderwerf> well it would take a while - I'm interested in math but I don't like proofs in natural language - I'd like to learn Mizar or something like it.  I have problems learning math informally.  One question I have: is it possible, and if so, how easy, and how long would it take to write proofs about probability in a formal language and then use a proof verifier on it.  Take for example Sterling's formula.
[03:30] <Guest21598> stercor, is gnome installed? (I assume it is...) if gnome is installed, you should be able to pick it before you login... if you auto-login, you may need to disable that first
[03:31] <acicula> davric: sed operates on tex files itself
[03:31] <stercor> Guest21598: That sounds reasonable.
[03:31] <Guest21598> davric, google for examples... that sounds like a simple task that should have lots of examples
[03:31] <davric> acicula, what can I do to accomplish my goal?
[03:31] <davric> it doesnt seem like it
[03:32] <stercor> Guest21598: The login screen has all the users in /etc/passwd.  Does this mean that there's no auto-login?
[03:32] <dvanderwerf> oh sorry wrong channel
[03:32] <stercor> ...well not _all_ of them.
[03:32] <Guest21598> davric, http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1145&bih=788&q=use+sed+to+remove+line&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=f&oq=use+sed+to+remove
[03:32] <Guest21598> try that search
[03:33] <Guest21598> stercor, all the users, including system accounts?
[03:33] <Guest21598> ah
[03:33] <kayve> MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN TURned INTO A MACINTOSH I HATE IT GIVE ME BACK MY GNOME
[03:33] <Guest21598> kayve, lol ;)
[03:33] <Guest21598> install it...
[03:33] <Guest21598> (gnome that is)
[03:33] <kayve> I CAN'T FIND A DAMNED TERMINAL
[03:34] <wildgoose> or caps lock?
[03:34] <stercor> Gnome is --- I believe --- installed.
[03:34] <Guest21598> kayve, hmm.. I don't have 11.04 installed atm, but I recall it being on the menu.. or if you type "term" into the search box it shows it
[03:34] <kayve> APT-GET install gnome2 ?
[03:34] <stercor> I don't do KDE...
[03:34] <Guest21598> apt-get .. lowercase
[03:34] <mik-moc> Kayve: in ubuntu?
[03:34] <szal> kayve: log out, then in the login screen choose session type 'Ubuntu Classic'
[03:35] <darkenergy> kayve, how did you turn it into a mac?
[03:35] <stercor> Guest21598: It can't find gnome2.  Is it gnome2-dev?
[03:35] <Guest21598> i think he means unity ;)
[03:35] <Guest21598> stercor, nope, not -dev
[03:35] <Guest21598> sec
[03:35] <darkenergy> Guest21598, lmao, i still haven't touched unity
[03:35] <darkenergy> Don't plan to either
[03:36] <mik-moc> in unity you can just hit the windows key and type terminal
[03:36] <karta> hrm, teamviewer is much more faster and responsive on ubuntu than windows
[03:36] <karta> go figure
[03:36] <karta> now my phone technicaly has ubuntu :0
[03:36] <mik-moc> if you don't have a windows key hit the ubuntu logo in the upper left hand side
[03:36] <Guest21598> stercor, try just apt-get install gnome
[03:36] <TrevInc> windows is not bad in and of itself but it is the #1 target for crapware
[03:37] <Guest21598> karta, good to know team viewer is available for linux?
[03:37] <stercor> Guest21598: k
[03:37] <Guest21598> stercor, what version of netbuntu did you start with?
[03:39] <stercor> Guest21598: netbook-remix 10.04
[03:39] <karta> Guest21598, i diddnt know either, i was jsut thinking it would be great to get into ubuntu as well as my win 7 laptop, works better for linux actualy
[03:39] <karta> and looks nicee with unity
[03:40] <mik-moc> Karta, did you find the terminal screen?
[03:40] <TrevInc> looks nice with unity is like saying "looks great with your tumor" :(
[03:41] <lnb> anyone know a fix for update manager failing to update or trying to install package and getting Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support'
[03:41] <karta> its not a tumor :arnold voice:
[03:41] <WFeather> got a network/samba question:
[03:41] <WFeather> My server is setup with Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, has all the drives setup to do sharing with Samba, it is accessible on my windows machines by typing in the network address and using the user/pass to get in, however it will only on occasion show up in the "Network" for windows..  However, when i go into a Kubuntu 11.04(or any linux VM) VM on my desktop (Win 7 x64), I am able to go to: network -> Samba Shares -> Workgroup -> Server -> Fold
[03:41] <Guest21598> stercor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9217374
[03:41] <Guest21598> should be what you need from the looks of it
[03:42] <Guest21598> TrevInc, unity isn't for everyone... and its not hard to change to gnome or kde, etc ... no point in bashing on it.. its still very useful for people that are new to linux or just need a simple interface
[03:43] <Guest21598> WFeather, I find network browsing unreliable in 10.04 with a mixed linux/windows network as well...
[03:43] <WFeather> 10.10 here
[03:44] <karta> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[03:44] <taraduffy> I had a HD mounting problem and had to boot from an ISO disc - can I fix it from here?
[03:44] <TrevInc> Guest21598: thank you for your opinion. However, forcing left side docking is a bit silly especially considering the OS X launcher docks on the bottom and is otherwise identical in functioning
[03:44] <TrevInc> so wouldn't that be a turnoff?
[03:45] <karta> incase anyone wanted it and diddnt have it, its kinda lame since it is useless, but there has been times when i left things on desktop and forgot to copy over for work etc
[03:45] <karta> so it can be a lifesaver
[03:45] <dr_Willis> network browsing is basucally totally non funvtional for me. i allways enter the full path to the shares and they do work
[03:45] <WFeather> dr_Willis: is that from a windows machine ?
[03:46] <dr_Willis> WFeather:  i find it flakey from both os . win and lin.
[03:46] <WFeather> hmm, k, so its a known issue then...
[03:47] <dr_Willis> win7 seems to made it worse.
[03:47] <kayve> till looks like mac
[03:47] <WFeather> any way to have XBMC on a windows machine look there directly all the time ?
[03:47] <WFeather> or should joining a XBMC channel be a better choice ?
[03:47] <kayve> how do I get rid of this macintosh nonsense?
[03:47] <yeats> taraduffy: in the live CD, open a terminal and do 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[03:47] <kayve> I installed gnome
[03:47] <dr_Willis> enter full host/sharename and they DO work however
[03:48] <WFeather> dr_Willis:  yes it does, my issue is accessing it w/ XBMC
[03:48] <dr_Willis> xbmc can access the shares for me fine
[03:48] <WFeather> hmm, what do you add as a source ?
[03:48] <dr_Willis> i use static ips. that may help
[03:49] <WFeather> server is a static IP
[03:49] <i9c> hey guys if I only have 3gb of ram is it worth getting ubuntu 64bit? or should I just go with x86
[03:49] <tntc> i9c: meh. Unless you're planning on upgrading to > 4gb, I'd go with 32-bit
[03:49] <kayve> I hate mac window behavior with a passion
[03:49] <dr_Willis> i got xbmc in the front room. is accesses my nas. and  ither servers ok.
[03:49] <i9c> well it's for a virtual machine
[03:50] <WFeather> dr_Willis: what do you add for the source ?
[03:50] <taraduffy> yeats: OK.
[03:50] <mik-moc> if I have ubuntu with unity how can I install gnome
[03:50] <tntc> i9c: well, > 4gb is supported via PAE, but it's not as good as real 64-bit
[03:50] <tntc> i9c: is it going to be on a server?
[03:50] <yeats> taraduffy: are you running 11.04 live with Unity?
[03:50] <i9c> no, just inside virtualbox to mess around with
[03:50] <WFeather> mik-moc: on logon screen, tell it to do classic
[03:50] <dr_Willis> WFeather:  it sees the machine. or i enter the ip. nothing special i recall.
[03:50] <wildgoose> !gnome
[03:50] <WFeather> mik-moc:  on the bottom
[03:50] <tntc> i9c: meh. than yeah, 32-bit, I'd say
[03:51] <i9c> thanks guys
[03:51] <WFeather> dr_Willis: the issue is my windows does not see the server
[03:51] <taraduffy> yeats: yes. in 'try it' mode.
[03:51] <mik-moc> I on the new version 11.04 I think..
[03:51] <WFeather> mik-moc: before you log on, in the bottom there is a drop down box that will have the option for "Classic"
[03:51] <WFeather> that will give you Gnome 2.x
[03:52] <kayve> qill
[03:52] <dr_Willis> enter the //server.ip.num/sharename  by hand in windows and mount the lovation to x: oerhaps
[03:52] <TrevInc> You are being MSG flooded from ~jordfan2@c-68-41-203-167.hsd1.mi.comcast.net, setting gui_auto_open_dialog OFF.
[03:52] <TrevInc> Anyone else get this?
[03:52] <mik-moc> ok.  I'll give that a try.  Thanks,
[03:52] <kayve> will apt-get install ubuntu-desktop get my window navigator back?
[03:52] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - you'll need to find "Places" and locate your HDD... I'm not running Unity, so I don't know exactly where...
[03:52] <taraduffy> yeats: it cant find package pastebinit
[03:52] <WFeather> dr_Willis: just have it auto mount that location in windows then ?
[03:52] <taraduffy> yeats: I found it: it is locked as root?
[03:53] <taraduffy> yeats: can we change the normal boot system we were trying to before from within the 'try it' Cd version?
[03:53] <dr_Willis> WFeather: i do that on the wifes pc normslly. ir enter the info by hand then make a shortcut
[03:53] <yeats> taraduffy: yes - that's the goal
[03:53] <kayve> I installed Gnome, ubuntu-desktop already installed I want to get rid of this mac behavior
[03:53] <WFeather> got a link to how i can have it auto mount the address ?
[03:54] <WFeather> i'm not too savy into this stuff
[03:54] <taraduffy> yeats: OK, cant install pastebinit?
[03:54] <yeats> taraduffy: no problem about pastebinit... it would be convenient but not necessary
[03:54] <dr_Willis> my one dimpke.net nas. is the only guzmo that does show up on netwirk shares i recall.
[03:54] <stercor> Guest99545: Success!  The pointer you gave me to ubuntuforums.org had the answer: System> Administration> Login Screen
[03:54] <dr_Willis> simple.net
[03:54] <wildbat> anyone know how to add/del items to  the Unity panel ?
[03:54] <kayve> how do I get rid of this stupid side bar and get the top menus back?
[03:54] <stercor> Guest99545: Thanks.
[03:54] <hsc2104> i'm having some issues with my wireless connection...just installed jolicloud on my ASUS 1015PED...I'm a complete newbie...help!
[03:54] <dr_Willis> !classic
[03:54] <yeats> taraduffy: if you can't open your HDD, close nautilus, and from the terminal do 'gksu nautilus'
[03:55] <MagusOTB> How do I go about getting /proc/bus/usb to exist in 11.04?
[03:55] <hsc2104> i tried for hours to find a solution online but couldn't find any online...
[03:56] <dr_Willis> hsc2104:  jolios is not ubuntu.
[03:56] <lnb> anyone know how to fix: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support' using apt-get -f install
[03:56] <dr_Willis> hsc2104:  it has issues. i gave up in it.
[03:56] <van7hu> !info xen
[03:56] <kayve> I HATE THE WAY MAC TAKES OVER THE HIGHEST ORDER MENU THAT is so stupid HOW DO i GET RID OF THIS???
[03:56] <dr_Willis> !xen
[03:57] <van7hu> does anyone compile xen under ubuntu?
[03:57] <kayve> i HATE THIS SIDE Bar and i can't find systems administration!
[03:57] <mwallacesd> Hi
[03:57] <dr_Willis> kayve:  webupd8 site has tweaks covering that
[03:57] <Rigin> hai everybody gud morning
[03:57] <kayve> I hate the stupid icons telling me
[03:57] <hsc2104> dr_Willis, any recommendation for a lightweight linux os that has good wireless compatibility for ASus 1015PED?
[03:57] <Nobgul-bnc> Kayve, then use clasasic gnome desktop
[03:57] <kayve> I can't organize all my dang browser windows my mcuekd
[03:57] <Nobgul-bnc> classic*
[03:57] <dr_Willis> hsc2104:  nirmal ubuntu shouls work fine
[03:57] <kayve> how do I admister this?  I can't find administration
[03:58] <Rigin> ya ubuntu
[03:58] <hsc2104> the netbook version?
[03:58] <Nobgul-bnc> !classic | kayve
[03:58] <hsc2104> cuz my computer is REALLY slow...
[03:58] <dr_Willis> kayve:  i got list of good links at   delicious.com/dr_willis
[03:58] <lnb> kayve: logout, then before you login, look at bottom of your screen and choose 'classic'
[03:59] <dr_Willis> hsc2104:  my netboks run ubuntu fine
[03:59] <jamesboo> hi, im trying to get ubuntu on a flash drive...
[03:59] <lnb> anyone know how to fix: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support' using apt-get -f install
[03:59] <lnb> i cannot install anything
[03:59] <Wiesshund> I seem to have forgotten something. got 10.10 reloaded,  but forgot how to fix emerald to it loads the themes when they are chosen
[03:59] <lnb> not sure what has happened
[03:59] <jamesboo> can anyoen help me get a bootable version of ubuntu on my flash drive?
[03:59] <mwallacesd> How can I set the some Latim caracters using their code, as the combination in Windows for exemple alt+135.......
[03:59] <dr_Willis> there are classic gnome menu things you can add to unity
[03:59] <Nobgul-bnc> lnb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[04:00] <getdarker_> I need to move a file into /opt but when using GUI it does not work could it work in terminal ?
[04:00] <getdarker_> im using Ubuntu 11.4
[04:00] <hsc2104> thank you dr Willis
[04:00] <Nobgul-bnc> getdarker_, If you sudo it yes.
[04:00] <dr_Willis> getdarker_:  it should
[04:00] <krux> lnb, try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[04:00] <IsleVegan> acicula & jrib : you are both FABULOUS. exim4 is making it happen. Yay for Yoo.
[04:00] <Nobgul-bnc> getdarker_ You can also open terminal and type sudo -i
[04:01] <Nobgul-bnc> getdarker_ put your pass in then move in the gui
[04:01] <OerHeks> unity slow ? maybe you have this issue too, ubuntu-one taking up 1 core, for no use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch/+bug/774295
[04:01] <getdarker_> ok cool - what wull that do ?
[04:01] <getdarker_> *will
[04:01] <Nobgul-bnc> It logs you in as the root user
[04:01] <Nobgul-bnc> basically
[04:01] <getdarker_> oh sweet
[04:01] <krakatoa_death> hi guys
[04:01] <taraduffy> yeats: for some reason I am stuck on initializing nautilus-gdu extension
[04:01] <getdarker_> nogul-bnc: thanks man
[04:01] <krakatoa_death> I have that firefox nightly installed, but it wont work with firebug, how can I fix it?
[04:01] <Nobgul-bnc> getdarker_, No worries
[04:02] <Nobgul-bnc> krakatoa_death #firefox ?
[04:02] <yeats> taraduffy: the window isn't open anywhere?
[04:02] <mwallacesd> how can I do this in the ubuntu? I need to imput the caracter ç, what keys combination I need to do? something as alt+0135 in Windows????
[04:02] <mik-moc> interesting, when I log in with an account I set up classic mode works
[04:02] <WFeather> ty dr_Willis got it figured out
[04:02] <taraduffy> yeats: no
[04:03] <Nobgul-bnc> mwallacesd, there is a char map. You can find it there i think
[04:03] <tensorpudding> mwallacesd: what character is that
[04:03] <mik-moc> but with the default ubuntu account it only goes to unity...
[04:03] <Rigin> i have windows free software
[04:03] <Rigin> any body want it
[04:03] <getdarker_> the sudo -i didnt work with the GUI
[04:03] <Nobgul-bnc> =(
[04:03] <Nobgul-bnc> then just sudo mv
[04:03] <lnb> krux: it does update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic and thats it
[04:03] <getdarker_> i will learn how to move files in the terminal
[04:03] <Nobgul-bnc> in terminal =(
[04:03] <Nobgul-bnc> its mv to move and cp to copy
[04:03] <krux> now try what you where doing
[04:03] <taraduffy> yeats: trying again. . .
[04:04] <yeats> taraduffy: can you pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l'?
[04:04] <mwallacesd> hi tensorpudding, it is: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00e7/index.htm
[04:04] <lnb> i was trying package manager update
[04:04] <getdarker_> nobgul-bnc: thanks giving it a go, linux is hard for newbie but cool
[04:04] <tensorpudding> ç you mean?
[04:04] <mwallacesd> Nobgul-bnc,  yes I could find it in the caracter map but I need to copy and paste all the time...
[04:04] <tensorpudding> there's charmap, or you can set up a compose key
[04:04] <yeats> taraduffy: sorry - needs to be 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:04] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:04] <Nobgul-bnc> make sure to use full paths ie: mv /path/to.file /path/to/destination/file.name
[04:05] <mwallacesd> There is another way to imput that, Nobgul-bnc ?
[04:05] <Nobgul-bnc> Umm
[04:05] <Nobgul-bnc> yer 1 sec
[04:05] <Wiesshund> anyone remember how to fix emrald so you dont have to do  emerald --replace &  in console to make it work?
[04:05] <tensorpudding> mwallacesd: you can set up a french keyboard
[04:05] <Azelphur> Rigin: it's source code, and your stupid for attempting to abuse a channel to spam someones email/phone :P
[04:05] <Nobgul-bnc> mwallacesd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383408
[04:06] <lnb> krux: apt-get install -f
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <tensorpudding> Rigin: stop that
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <FloodBot1> Rigin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <karta> lol
[04:06] <hendaus_> hi friends, i need a help plz
[04:06] <FloodBot1> Rigin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <edbian> What does that even mean?
[04:06] <Wiesshund> Rigin how bout shut up. and it is called source code
[04:06] <taraduffy> yeats: paste.ubuntu.com/633393
[04:06] <lnb> krux: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <Rigin> i have windows Xp programming code  if any body want it contact me @ +919495788191 or riginoommen@gmail.com
[04:06] <tensorpudding> !ops Rigin
[04:06] <edbian> ban him!
[04:06] <lnb> what is this 'muliarch-support' ?
[04:07] <tensorpudding> ugh, that doesn't work
[04:07] <tensorpudding> i always forget
[04:07] <Jeruvy> !ops | rigin
[04:07] <jamesboo> where do i download ubuntu?
[04:07] <soreau> !ops | Rigin
[04:07] <tensorpudding> it's too late, he was K-Lined
[04:07] <Jeruvy> even better
[04:07] <dr_Willis> jamesboo:  ubuntu.com
[04:07] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - great... now do 'sudo mkdir /mnt/disk && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda5 /mnt/disk'
[04:08] <IsleVegan> good grief, somebody trying to flood a room full of linux people. how long is that going to last. :-o
[04:09] <mwallacesd> Nobgul-bnc, yes it is! Thank so much brow!!! It is exactly that I was looking for!!!
[04:09] <marcuy> any Entity-Relationship designer ninja out there?
[04:11] <taraduffy> yeats: cannot creat directory /mnt/disk
[04:11] <jamesboo> any one tell me how to get a bootable version of ubuntu on my flash drive....
[04:12] <john__> jamesboo, have you tried YUMI?
[04:12] <yeats> taraduffy: grrrr... hold on
[04:12] <taraduffy> yeats: OK. .
[04:13] <jamesboo> is that the version i need?  My friend helped me do this the other day, but it was a 2GB drive, when I finally booted my rig, i couldnt downlaod any files becuase I was maxed out of space...  Now I have a new, 8GB flash drive, but i forget how to get bootable version o fubuntu on it
[04:13] <dr_Willis> jamesboo:  tutorials at the pendrivelinux website
[04:13] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - try 'sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda5 /mnt/'
[04:13] <jamesboo> Im using a program called Bootable USB Drive Creator Tool
[04:14] <mik-moc> jamesboo, do you have an OS on you machine now?
[04:14] <dr_Willis> jamesboo:  thwres several tools you could use
[04:15] <mik-moc> jamesboo, is that for windows?
[04:15] <Wiesshund> Anyone use Emerald? can not remember how to make it load themes properly
[04:15] <van7hu> !11.04
[04:15] <van7hu> !10.04
[04:16] <taraduffy> yeats: no error with that one.
[04:16] <yeats> taraduffy: great!  now do 'cat /mnt/etc/fstab' and pastebin that please
[04:17] <jamesboo> mik-moc_:  I have a few different machines.... right now im in windows XP
[04:18] <jamesboo> I also have a laptop with Win 7
[04:18] <taraduffy> yeats: paste.ubuntu.com:633396
[04:18] <lnb> apt-get anything wont work
[04:18] <MagusOTB> How do I go about getting /proc/bus/usb to exist in Natty?
[04:18] <jamesboo> im trying to use ubuntu on a flash drive to run another mahine
[04:18] <lnb> crap! have to reinstall
[04:19] <CooKieMonster> is there any web data extrator  app for ubuntu ?
[04:19] <MagusOTB> CooKieMonster: web data extractor?
[04:19] <zuzto> what about the 11.04 ?? are u already install it??
[04:19] <mik-moc> What is did with win7 was download the ubuntu ISO
[04:20] <mik-moc> then from the ubutu site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download downloaded the universal USB installer.
[04:20] <CooKieMonster> web data extractor is a type of software that can extract data from a webpage
[04:20] <yeats> taraduffy: okay - thanks - now do 'gksu gedit /mnt/etc/fstab' and add the # before the first line
[04:20] <mik-moc> It is very easy from there.
[04:21] <taraduffy> yeats: and save?
[04:21] <hendaus_> help please! when booting it doesnot show anything just a black image until it appears ubuntu login,... plz help
[04:21] <mik-moc> I am running it on an 8GB USB drive on my Win7 Laptop now.
[04:21] <john__> jamesboo, try unetbootin.
[04:21] <taraduffy> yeats: in new window opened: save?
[04:21] <yeats> taraduffy: yes please
[04:21] <taraduffy> yeats: done [and thank you:-)]
[04:21] <jamesboo> John__: i alreadu have this live-usb-install
[04:21] <jamesboo> i want to install ubuntu onto my flash drive
[04:21] <yeats> taraduffy: yay! now try to reboot without the live disk
[04:22] <jamesboo> how do i do it
[04:22] <taraduffy> yeats: OK. . .
[04:22] <mik-moc> if you go to the link I sent you it has step by step instructions. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[04:24] <taraduffy> yeats: same problem!!!! argghh
[04:24] <yeats> taraduffy: weird!
[04:24] <hendaus_> help please! when booting it doesnot show anything just a black image until it appears ubuntu login,...
[04:24] <john__> jamesboo, i don't know the program.  What's it ask for when it starts?
[04:25] <jamesboo> well i might just try to use unetbootin
[04:25] <john__> it's pretty easy to use
[04:25] <yeats> taraduffy: okay... I think that's all the time you should spend on it.  Since you told me you have your data backed up, go ahead and reinstall
[04:25] <john__> just point it to the iso you downloaded.
[04:25] <getdarker_> Nobgul-bnc: How do I delete a file -- it worked but I had to put the file in it's own folder and now there is an extra copy of the file in the /opt folder and I am not able to delete it
[04:25] <yeats> taraduffy: I think that would be easier than beating your head against a wall.  You can chalk it up to experience ;-)
[04:26] <taraduffy> yeats: OK - thanks so much for your time too. I agree with your philosophy :-)
[04:26] <yeats> taraduffy: happy to help!
[04:26]  * yeats goes to bed now
[04:27] <john__> getdarker_, "sudo rm filename"
[04:27] <getdarker_> thanks john_ appreciate that
[04:28] <zuzto> hi people... kind of newbie here..
[04:28] <hendaus_> help please! when booting ubuntu 11.04  it doesnot show anything just a black image until it appears ubuntu login,...is there any solution
[04:28] <getdarker_> hi zuzto me too !
[04:28] <john__> zuzto, welcome.
[04:28] <lnb> how the heck does apt-get become so screwed nothing can be updated/installed/removed
[04:28] <zuzto> thanks.. and excuse my poor english, im from mexico
[04:29] <zuzto> im using xchat, someone else??
[04:29] <john__> lnb, how old is the os version?  out of date repos?
[04:29] <Wiesshund> hendaus_,  that is normal when grub has quiet set.
[04:30] <getdarker_> whats the difference between sudo rm -i "filename" and sudo rm "filename" ? Already being root ?
[04:30] <zuzto> a noob question, if a change of server, my connection with the channels in the other server closed??
[04:31] <john__> getdarker_, rm -i prompts before deleting.
[04:32] <john__> hendaus_, http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/ubuntu-11-04-blank-screen-on-boot-solved/
[04:32] <hendaus_> Wiesshund:  so it stills the same but neither shows the grub menu when it shows memory test and ubuntu recovery mode and ect..
[04:33] <Wiesshund> hendaus_,  hmm mine showed the menu etc fine once i told it to actualy wait at it
[04:34] <john__> zuzto, i'm not sure.  you can always just try it. :)
[04:35] <getdarker_> thanks john_ so theres not much difference really, a prompt just the tells the command what to act on as google tells me :)
[04:36] <john__> hendaus_, did you try holding down shift on reboot?
[04:36] <getdarker_> it worked by the way john_ quite satisfying to see it dissapear :)
[04:36] <john__> getdarker_, good.  unwanted files are evil.
[04:37] <zuzto> john: ok... thanks
[04:38] <hendaus_> john__:  yes thanx, but where to edit or replace quiet and splash to nomodeset
[04:38] <john__> hendaus_, nomodeset isn't showing up on the grub menu at all?
[04:40] <hendaus_> it shows ubuntu 11.04 and recovery mode and memorty test
[04:40] <hendaus_> which one
[04:41] <john__> hendaus_, try highlighting ubuntu 11.04 and pressing "E"
[04:41] <hendaus_> john__:  ok, but is it necessary the live cd inserted or not?\
[04:42] <john__> hendaus_, wait, you're running from livecd? or is this installed to hard drive?
[04:43] <hendaus_> john__:  no from hd
[04:43] <john__> hendaus_, okay, good.  no live cd necessary.  just select the normal boot option, then...
[04:44] <john__> press e, then add nomodeset to the boot options
[04:44] <john__> hendaus_, You'll probably see "quiet splash"
[04:44] <john__> hendaus_, just go behind splash and add nomodeset like:
[04:45] <john__> hendaus_, "quiet splash nomodeset"  then press ctrl-X
[04:46] <hendaus_> john__:  ok so dont delete quiet and splash just add nomodeset beside it?
[04:46] <john__> hendaus_, yep.
[04:47] <hendaus_> john__:  ok i try thanx
[04:47] <john__> hendaus_, but to make this permanent you'll need to edit grub after you boot.  almost forgot...
[04:47] <mrdeb> does anyone know how to make openoffice fonts looks normal in lucid. it is too small
[04:47] <john__> edit /etc/default/grub
[04:48] <john__> then add the nomodeset options the same way you did at the boot menu
[04:48] <Z_Guru> Hello all.  Need serious help.  Any takers?
[04:48] <john__> should be a line that says grub_cmdline_linux_default="options..."
[04:48] <john__> Z_Guru, what's the prob?
[04:49] <em> mrdeb: you mean in open office or those fonts across the whole system?
[04:49] <mrdeb> em: openoffice fonts are smaller only in lucid compared ot system fonts and nothing affects it. in 1010 and ofrward its fixed
[04:49] <mrdeb> wheres is the setting
[04:51] <magn3ts> Oh look, Empathy again failed to save my password.
[04:51] <magn3ts> What a buggy piece.
[04:51] <shivaprakash> hi any body know how to print LPCWSTR datatype value to stdout
[04:51] <mrdeb> has anyone heard of jupiter
[04:52] <magn3ts> mrdeb, elementaryOS
[04:52] <magn3ts> mrdeb, yes.
[04:52] <Z_Guru> Thanks, john.  Well I first installed Ubuntu Studio on a virtual machine in Windows XP.  Then discovered Wubi and installed Ubuntu standard that way...
[04:52] <hiexpo> hola
[04:53] <pLr> !ask | Z_Guru
[04:53] <puff> Anybody know about proprietary drivers for the thinkpad t520 nvidia graphics?
[04:53] <mrdeb> how do you turn off the plymouth boot logo
[04:53] <hiexpo> !nvidia > puff
[04:53] <magn3ts> puff do the default nvidia drivers not work for you?
[04:54] <puff> magn3ts: I've got a thinkpad t520 running ubuntu 10.4 LTS.  Resume from suspend does not seem to work.  I'm not sure if it's really not resuming or just the screen staying dark or something.
[04:54] <magn3ts> Oooh.
[04:54] <shivaprakash> hi any body know how to print LPCWSTR datatype value to stdout
[04:54] <magn3ts> shivaprakash, wrong channel, almost surely.
[04:54] <Z_Guru> Fell in love with Ubuntu, and was migrating all I could from XP to Ubuntu, like Thunderbird etc., went back to XP to clean up...
[04:54] <puff> magn3ts: So, the thought occurs that maybe with the proprietary drivers it might work better....
[04:54] <magn3ts> shivaprakash, guaranteedly wrong channel.
[04:55] <magn3ts> puff, oh, I assumed you were already running the nvidia drivers.
[04:55] <magn3ts> puff, just let Hardware Drivers (jockey-gtk) install nvidia drivers from the repo
[04:55] <magn3ts> puff, if you're feeling cutting edge there is a PPA for more cutting edge nvidia blobs for X.org
[04:55] <Z_Guru> And accidentally ADD/REMOVED my Ubuntu virtual drive instead of the virtual machine.  Is there a way to recover my virtual drive etc. after windows accidental removal?
[04:56] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, probably want to be in #virtualbox.
[04:56] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, I'm still confused...
[04:56] <magn3ts> you removed the virtual drive taht ubuntu was installed on... what do you mean "Windows accidental removal"???
[04:56] <Neutron> Iserver ifg.ircnode.com
[04:56] <Neutron> sorry
[04:56] <hiexpo> puff,  there are also driversyou can use from nvidia  check there site see if your card is listed
[04:57] <john__> Z_Guru, i haven't used wubi, but it should have run ubuntu from a single file on the windows partition...
[04:57] <puff> magn3ts: Okay, Ill try System/Administration/Hardware Drivers first.
[04:57] <magn3ts> I'd recommend the PPA over straight from nvidia. The nvidia installer never is as seamless and the PPA I mentioned is current with nvidia's official site releases.
[04:57] <john__> so if the wubi app was removed and the ubuntu disk was removed with it...
[04:57] <magn3ts> puff, I'd start there, even if you do that and add the PPA later for newer builds, it will just apt-get update/upgrade for you! cheers, good luck.
[04:57] <puff> magn3ts: Hm, it says "no proprietary drivers are in use wtih this system'
[04:57] <Z_Guru> I meant to delete my virtualbox Ubuntu but instead, like an idiot, removed my Wubi virtual drive install.
[04:57] <magn3ts> puff, hum. you can try installing nvidia-current from repos.
[04:57] <john__> then I'm not sure how you'd recover it unless it ended up in the $recycler directory.
[04:57] <Luxe> Hey. Wondering if y'all could help me.
[04:57] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, wow, that's quite a mixup.
[04:58] <Luxe> I'm trying to install macbuntu on my Computer.
[04:58] <Luxe> And it's not working.
[04:58] <Luxe> And it's giving me an error message.
[04:58] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, I don't know the process of wubi-removal so I can't tell you how likely it is taht that data's still there.
[04:58] <Luxe> Do I have permission to paste it here?
[04:58] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, if you're not having data loss from it... you're better off starting from scratch and doing a true partition this time.
[04:58] <magn3ts> !paste > Lukosanthropos
[04:58] <magn3ts> !paste Luxe
[04:58] <john__> Z_Guru, maybe a system restore? though I'm not sure a system restore will put back application files.
[04:58] <magn3ts> Lukosanthropos, sorry.
[04:58] <Luxe> ;o
[04:58] <hiexpo> Luxe, no paste in here use pastebin
[04:58] <Luxe> Ohkay.
[04:58] <magn3ts> !paste | Luxe
[04:59] <Luxe> Http://www.pastie.org/2127282
[04:59] <Luxe> ^that's what I'm getting when I follow the directions.
[04:59] <john__> Z_Guru, agree with magn3ts.  fresh install would be best.
[04:59] <Luxe> I've done it before but it doesn't like... Work.
[04:59] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, your chances of recovering a fully working WUBI/Ubuntu install is next to nothing
[04:59] <magn3ts> Z_Guru, your best hope would be if you need to recover just one file or something.
[05:00] <Luxe> Does anyone know why that's happening?
[05:00] <mrdeb> does anyone run without a swap file
[05:00] <OerHeks> Luxe, seems they don't know you
[05:00] <WilliamC> I'm installing Ubuntu on the computer right next to me and it just crashed on install.
[05:00] <bc81> hi. how i check the integrity of ubuntu 11.04 cd?  there is no menu when i boot the disk
[05:00] <WilliamC> Know of any work arounds?
[05:00] <Luxe> What do you mean OerHeks? ;o
[05:01] <hiexpo> !swap > mrdeb
[05:01] <jimjam> hey - is there a quick way to copy a file's absolute location to the clipboard?
[05:01] <Z_Guru> Thanx all.  Yeah, had a few drinks and got Ubuntu happy and hit the button to fast.  I am trying to do a third party restore, which I get all but the root.disk an swap.disk file so far, so I am freaking.
[05:01] <magn3ts> WilliamC, not a lot of info to go on there.
[05:01] <OerHeks> Luxe error is >  cannot verify downloads.sourceforge.net's certificate
[05:01] <Z_Guru> Was going to save system restore as a last resort.
[05:01] <magn3ts> Luxe, remove the HTTPS in the wget line and replace with HTTP.
[05:02] <Luxe> Ohkay :D
[05:02] <magn3ts> Luxe, or is this a script you're running?
[05:02] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I'm using the latest beta and it said "installer package error" and then after that it said "Installer has crashed"
[05:02] <puff> magn3ts: Okay, installed, do I need to reboot or something to enable it?
[05:02] <pat201> can someone give me a general idea of what checksum means?
[05:02] <magn3ts> puff, yeah, um, you may need to add something to xorg conf to get it to utilize it... honestly, I'm not sure how it's changed... the last few versions of ubuntu have done all the work for me.
[05:02] <john__> Z_Guru, again, i don't know wubi, but it appears that ubuntu should have been installed on the root.disk file, so...
[05:02] <magn3ts> pat201, think of it as a unique signature for a file.
[05:03] <magn3ts> WilliamC, wait, beta, beta of what?
[05:03] <magn3ts> WilliamC, beta of Oneiric?
[05:03] <WilliamC> Ubuntu
[05:03] <john__> you might try reinstalling wubi, then ubuntu, then replacing the root.disk file with the recovered one.
[05:03] <john__> not sure how well it would work.
[05:03] <magn3ts> WilliamC, there's no beta out for anything right now.
[05:03] <magn3ts> 11.04 is stable... 11.10 is in alpha....
[05:03] <Luxe> Uhm.
[05:03] <puff> magn3ts: Okay, ran System/Admin/Hardware Drivers again, it says the nvidia drivers are in use etc.
[05:03] <puff> magn3ts: So I'm going ot just reboot on general principles and see how it works.,
[05:03] <magn3ts> puff, oh you might be good to go. restarting X/gdm would be a base minimum.
[05:04] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I downloaded the wrong version it seems
[05:04] <magn3ts> puff, and puff only, sudo service /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:04] <Z_Guru> john, I am unsure of that due to windows deleating the folder that the root.disk was in.
[05:04] <magn3ts> WilliamC, lol, are you looking for the most recent stable version?
[05:04] <magn3ts> WilliamC, ubuntu.com look for the big download button :)
[05:05] <Z_Guru> The root.disk being 30GB bypassed the trash bin.
[05:05] <pat201> does anyone know of a ccleaner type program to run on ubuntu?
[05:05] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to convert some html documents to pdf based on a index file. The structure should be preserved. Is there any package in ubuntu?
[05:05] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I was looking for the latest beta but it seems there is none so just as well
[05:06] <john__> Z_Guru, well, if you can't find it in the c:\recycler folder, then that may be all she wrote.
[05:07] <almoxarife> pat201: look at fslint
[05:07] <bc81> how do i check live cd for errors 11.04?  there is no option to do this as in old versions of ubuntu
[05:07] <john__> Z_Guru, if it was vista or 7, I'd say check previous versions (volume shadow copy), but xp
[05:07] <john__> is no help for that.
[05:07] <puff> magn3ts: Well, it all seems to be working fine, but suspend still doesn't work. Drat.
[05:08] <magn3ts> puff, yeah, suspend and hibernate are always a nightmare and I'm the last person you want helping you with that.
[05:08] <bc81> what happened to this menu on the 11.04 live cd? http://www.dailycupoftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/ubuntu02.png
[05:09] <Reno__> hey, does 11.04 play nice with a SSD?
[05:09] <magn3ts> WilliamC, like I said, there are nightlies and alphas for 11.10 (to be released in... Oct?)... but they're completely unusable in a VM... let alone on a desktop
[05:09] <bc81> or maybe there is a key combo to access it?
[05:09] <WilliamC> Yeah, I don't really trust alphas, or betas.
[05:09] <WilliamC> It always seems to pick the worst time to crash during install
[05:11] <pat201> how can i check if my OS is 64 or 32 bit?
[05:12] <magn3ts> Who likes? http://i.imgur.com/50PLJ.png
[05:12] <mrdeb> hi where is grub.cfg
[05:12] <cn28h> pat201, what does uname -m print?
[05:13] <oxyzen> How do I make Ubuntu show only bits around the system, kilobit, megabit, and so on? No bytes anymore.
[05:13] <Z_Guru> john, Figured I would ask here in case someone might had been as careless as me and ficked it.  But I am still running a 3rd part disk restore, hopefully I will find root.disk if not I will try the XP system restore and hope and pray.  I did extensive migration, so I would hate to loose the stuff and restart due to microsoft's oversight and my stupidity.
[05:14] <pat201> im not sure i understand
[05:14] <sphika> is it okay to just ask a question here? there's no one in the beginners channel who seems to be responding..
[05:15] <magn3ts> !grub > mrdeb
[05:15] <oxyzen> sphika: No, here you may only write statements. Never ever may you ask a question.
[05:15] <WilliamC> Why did Ubuntu choose brown and orange for its colors?
[05:15] <sphika> ok
[05:16] <oxyzen> sphika: (just kidding)
[05:16] <sphika> oh. well I'll just paste my question from the other channel: I recently had an issue with a video streaming software called veetle, so I decided to upgrade to the latest version to see if that would fix my problem. I ran "sudo sh" to install the program. Since then I have experienced a variety of issues, including, my ICEauthority can't be updated, the sound control can no longer communicate with the sound device, and I don't have the permission
[05:16] <sphika> s to save files in gimp. Can anyone help me?
[05:16] <hamnegga> Anyone here know how to edit the new default bootloader used with LinuxLiveUSB LiLi?  I don't know why they changed from syslinux, was the simplest one...  Now it's some sort of BartPE loader
[05:16] <oxyzen> WilliamC: Because they are great colours.
[05:17] <WilliamC> oxyzen, I hate them, same reason I hate Thanksgiving and Halloween decorations.
[05:17] <Reno__> Hey, anyone know if 11.04 plays nice with a ssd?  I read use ext4, but thats about it.
[05:17] <WilliamC> Reno__, it really should, as should all up-to-date distros.
[05:17] <oxyzen> WilliamC: You could move. I've never celebrated Thanksgiving nor Halloween.
[05:18] <WilliamC> oxyzen, I like the food.
[05:19] <Z_Guru> john, I will let you know if I succeed or not to help others.
[05:19] <WilliamC> magn3ts, how many chatrooms are you in?
[05:19] <oxyzen> WilliamC: But isn't the food brown and orange-ish?
[05:19] <WilliamC> no
[05:19] <bazhang> !ot | oxyzen WilliamC
[05:19] <magn3ts> WilliamC, lots.
[05:19] <Guest91517> hi
[05:20] <magn3ts> Bitcoin, Android and linux keep me occupied.
[05:20] <sphika> so no one then?
[05:20] <Guest91517> anyone is able to use video chat on xubuntu with msn accout
[05:20] <magn3ts> sphika, yikes.
[05:20] <magn3ts> sphika, what random script did you run exactly?
[05:20] <magn3ts> sphika, and do you have any idea if it was meant to be used with the version of ubuntu you're in?
[05:22] <Guest91517> wie for video chat does it ork?
[05:22] <noisewaterphd> Guest91517: never tried. what DOES work is Skype,, and Google Talk
[05:22] <noisewaterphd> at least those are the two I have used
[05:22] <sphika> magnets, I installed a .run file I believe. it was the installer directly from the program's website.
[05:22] <Guest91517> what o you ue to get skype
[05:22] <Guest91517> use
[05:22] <Z_Guru> So sh stands for a script in Linux?
[05:23] <sphika> i ran sudo sh to install and just started pressing enter. i realized after doing this that there was a warning i agreed to that said they don't recommend installing as root
[05:24] <magn3ts> sphika, I can't help without the script, god only knows what it could have done (literally anything)
[05:24] <noisewaterphd> Guest91517: sudo apt-get install skype
[05:24] <magn3ts> sphika, also, if you type 'magn' and press TAB, it will autocomplete my name and notify me when you reply :)
[05:25] <WilliamC> magn3ts, think Ubuntu is easy enough to use on a computer I'm going to sell?
[05:25] <WilliamC> I think it's userfriendly, but I've seen people get confused by Windows.
[05:26] <sphika> magn3ts, the site is http://www.veetle.com/index.php/download, and the file is  veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh
[05:27] <noisewaterphd> Well, Windows is certainly not a model for usability
[05:27] <noisewaterphd> but along those lines, I've seen people get violently upset with television remotes
[05:27] <mrdeb> can someone point out the advantage of ubuntu over other distros
[05:28] <noisewaterphd> package repositories
[05:28] <noisewaterphd> debian based
[05:28] <noisewaterphd> good community
[05:28] <magn3ts> sphika, ugh, its a compressed binary, I don't know what that script does to be honest.
[05:28] <noisewaterphd> small download size compared to other full distros
[05:28] <qin> TeamColtra: Hey! You fixed?
[05:28] <magn3ts> +1 for everything noisewaterphd said.
[05:28] <Guest91517> sudo apt-get install skype  I tried but nothing
[05:29] <Z_Guru> "sh" is what type of file, script?  Anyone?
[05:29] <noisewaterphd> Guest91517: might need the PPA or something first, just go to skype.com
[05:29] <sphika> magn3ts, like I said, I know that it broke it because it basically said not to install as root because it could break stuff, but I had already done it by that point.
[05:29] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: shell script
[05:29] <sphika> but yeah, I have no idea what it does either haha.
[05:29] <magn3ts> sphika, it's the very reason I don't install software from scripts like that.
[05:29] <Guest91517> I'l do that
[05:29] <Guest91517> ll
[05:30] <TeamColtra> qin, no :(
[05:30] <magn3ts> sphika, well some things DO need to run as root. Installing software NEEDS to run as root... so that wasn't the mistake.
[05:30] <magn3ts> sphika, the mistake was with the script and whatever it did.
[05:30] <sphika> let me try to reproduce the output
[05:30] <Z_Guru> Thanks, noisewaterphd.
[05:30] <qin> Z_Guru: try: head -n 3  your_file.sh (scripts are text files), also: file your_file.sh to see type
[05:30] <magn3ts> sphika, but honestly, the only solution is asking in the Veetle forums or producing more precise error messages that we can eliminate one by one.
[05:30] <melissita> is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 without having to upgrade to 10.10 first?
[05:31] <qin> TeamColtra: Can you open edit connection, from nm-applet?
[05:32] <Z_Guru> Thanks, qin.
[05:32] <noisewaterphd> melissita: http://tinyurl.com/3mw7ada
[05:32] <sphika> magn3ts, this is more fyi; the script says: "You are running this script as root. Veetle recommends against installing
[05:32] <sphika> on the superuser account. We suggest you press <Control-C> now and reinstall
[05:32] <sphika> on the user account you typically use to run Firefox or Mozilla.
[05:32] <sphika> "
[05:32] <TeamColtra> qin, yes
[05:33] <Z_Guru> What is the XP equivalent for control+alt+del in Ubuntu?
[05:34] <qin> TeamColtra: Wired tab > Auto eth0 > Edit > IPv4 Settings tab > Method: Shared to other... and restart xbox (if nesssesary)
[05:34] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: to do what? get a task manager? shutdown?
[05:34] <TeamColtra> Thats where I started
[05:34] <Z_Guru> To shut down a non-responsive program.
[05:35] <noisewaterphd> to kill an unresponsive program do: ps aux | grep nameofprogram
[05:35] <Z_Guru> Or restart when all is frozen?
[05:35] <qin> Z_Guru: menu > System > Admin > System Monitor (or something), also htop in terminal, or just top.
[05:35] <noisewaterphd> when it lists it do a: kill -9 ID#OFPROGRAMLISTED
[05:35] <TeamColtra> qin, after I did that the xbox was at least talking to the laptop... now that I have done all these other things, even after rolling them back my laptop isn't communicating with mr xbox
[05:35] <magn3ts> sphika, lol, well that was a bit of a mistake
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, in addition to the kill and killall commands from terminal, there is also the gui xkill program.  NOTE! don't do -9 as noisewaterphd recommended!
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: as you can see, many options
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> yes do -9
[05:36] <noisewaterphd> just kill that sucka dead
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's actually a BAD idea.  You should CERTAINLY try with -9 first!
[05:37] <qin> TeamColtra: Just: sudo ifconfig br0 down
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, s/with/without/
[05:37] <noisewaterphd> definitely, cut to the chase man
[05:37] <Z_Guru> Wow, but the situation I was in the PC froze while playing a video and no keys on the keyboard responded..
[05:37] <qin> TeamColtra: does xbox uses dhcp?
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> noisewaterphd, that's poor advice
[05:37] <noisewaterphd> qin, yes
[05:38] <TeamColtra> qin, no like I removed all that stuff from my interface file
[05:38] <sphika> magn3ts, yep, I was actually afraid to ask for help. anyway I guess chown'ing the directory fixes it..
[05:38] <noisewaterphd> ZykoticK9: and I think your's is, so leave it be
[05:38] <TeamColtra> so now my computer doesn't try to bridge
[05:38] <magn3ts> sphika, good
[05:38] <TeamColtra> but even still I must have changed something and didn't realize it because I am certainly not at "factory defaults"
[05:39] <qin> TeamColtra: Well, leave lo, and restart networking.
[05:39] <Z_Guru> -9 in the terminal?
[05:39] <TeamColtra> qin, are those commands?
[05:39] <TeamColtra> "leave lo"
[05:39] <TeamColtra> Sorry for being an idiot sometimes :)
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, try CTRL+ALT+F1 to see if you get a VT, CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back BTW
[05:40] <Z_Guru> Yeah, absolutely none of those combos do anything here.
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> Z_Guru, BTW you could use ALT+PRINTSCREEN+k to "restart" a locked Xorg
[05:41] <qin> TeamColtra: No, networkmanager do not use /etc/networks/interfaces anyway, but "auto lo" line should be there.
[05:41] <john__> Z_Guru, I've seen where ctrl-esc or ctrl-alt-esc can bring up applets to kill processes....
[05:41] <qin> TeamColtra: line 2: iface lo inet loopback
[05:41] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru, if you've got no keyboard response there isn't much you can do other than restart, unless you have another machine you can use to ssh into the frozen box and kill the locked process
[05:42] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: the -9 is an arg to the kill command
[05:43] <TeamColtra> qin, http://paste2.org/p/1491201
[05:43] <TeamColtra> thats what I have (before editing it to what you told me)
[05:43] <Z_Guru> Neat, didn't know you could do that from another machine, cool.
[05:44] <Luxe> When I try to install a theme, it says that it's invalid. Do you guys know if there's a way to fix that?
[05:44] <Luxe> Or if I'm doing it wrong?
[05:45] <qin> TeamColtra: Yeah, you will need to restart: sudo service networking restart
[05:45] <magn3ts> Luxe, probably need to extract it and put the folders into ~/.themes
[05:45] <Luxe> How do I do that? ;/
[05:45] <TeamColtra> teamcoltra@paradoxicon:~$ sudo service networking restart (line2) restart: Unknown instance:
[05:45] <Luxe> Ugh, I swear I'm too stupid for Ubuntu.
[05:46] <TeamColtra> Considering Ubuntu is more user friendly than Windows is... I highly doubt that
[05:46] <Z_Guru> One more question, is there anyway to stream media files from Ubuntu to an Xbox 360?  Like being able to do so trough Windows Media Player?
[05:46] <Luxe> -.-
[05:46] <Luxe> I'm not tech savvy.
[05:46] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: not true man, don't give up, you will LOVE Linux if you give it an honest chance
[05:46] <Luxe> I just can't figure out how to do anything :c
[05:47] <Luxe> I'm trying so hard :P
[05:47] <TeamColtra> you are on IRC, thats a great start
[05:47] <Luxe> Oh.
[05:47] <Luxe> I've been on IRC for years.
[05:47] <Luxe> Like 5.
[05:47] <FloodBot1> Luxe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <Luxe> IRC is easy.
[05:47] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: yes! I don't remember the name of the program, just google for it though
[05:47] <Luxe> It's installing this stupid theme that I want that's a pain.
[05:47] <qin> TeamColtra: Tested gui made bridge with any device under the hand (4 different distros &  android tablet) 100% success rate.
[05:47] <TeamColtra> qin,
[05:47] <TeamColtra> hmm
[05:48] <TeamColtra> Then maybe I should have just restarted my xbox when I did it from network manager
[05:48] <qin> Luxe: What theme, metacity, compiz, emerald?
[05:48] <Luxe> Uh.
[05:48] <Luxe> I don't even know. I'm just getting them from gnome-look.
[05:48] <TeamColtra> Luxe, just link us to where you found it
[05:48] <Luxe> Ohkay.
[05:48] <TeamColtra> ;) lets go with baby steps here.
[05:49] <Luxe> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4lin_evo?content=142816
[05:49] <Luxe> This one's the first one I was wanting.
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: sorry man, I always just go with default themes so I cant help really. and personally I find the ambiance theme quite nice
[05:49]  * hiexpo passes spoon    
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: wait, you are using gnome, not unity right?
[05:49] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: what version of ubuntu
[05:49] <Luxe> Yes. Gnome.
[05:49] <meLon> Is there any way to not have to run "export TERM="xterm-256color"" every time I open a new terminal (gnome-terminal)
[05:49] <Luxe> 10.10
[05:50] <Luxe> It's Maverick.
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> Luxe: ok, just checking
[05:50] <Z_Guru> My wife say, glad you love Ubuntu, but I can't stream all your movies and songs like I used to!  So me must find the alternative.  I hate Microsoft!
[05:50] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: ushare
[05:51] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: http://www.themanfromdelmonte.co.uk/2010/02/09/stream-video-to-xbox-360-from-ubuntu-with-ushare/
[05:51] <TeamColtra> qin, is there a way of me just restoring all my network settings back to default? Because I had it soo close before with exactly the recomendation you gave me
[05:51] <TeamColtra> qin, but I must have changed some setting along the way and I can't tell which it is
[05:51] <TeamColtra> (apart from a reinstall of course :P )
[05:51] <qin> TeamColtra: this how server ifconfig lookslike http://pastebin.com/2bDZVKQk , and ip of client 10.42.43.66 ...
[05:52] <milamber> Z_Guru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[05:52] <qin> TeamColtra: Did you add any rules to iptables?
[05:52] <TeamColtra> Nope
[05:53] <TeamColtra> I was told that I didn't need iptables so I kept away from it
[05:53] <Z_Guru> Excellent! Thank you!  noisewaterphd rules!
[05:53] <noisewaterphd> TeamColtra: have you tried temporarily turning off iptables and testing just to be sure there isnt an issue
[05:53] <qin> TeamColtra: So, restart of network-manager should do, also...
[05:53] <Remedy--> has anyone ever had a problem with dhcpcd saying invalid UDP packet from 192.168.x.x?
[05:53] <TeamColtra> I will purge bridge-utils because thats the only thing left
[05:54] <noisewaterphd> Z_Guru: check out milamber suggestion as well, cause I've never actually used either of them, one might be a better fit for you
[05:54] <qin> TeamColtra: iptables for server http://paste.ubuntu.com/633435/
[05:55] <TeamColtra> qin, that doesn't tell me much (or what I need to do)
[05:55] <qin> TeamColtra: If your setup is same, it have to work, and you would need to check setting of xbox
[05:55] <qin> TeamColtra: your ifconfig, how it looks like? 10 minutes, coffee.
[05:56] <TeamColtra> qin, I know that the support ettiqutte is to do all of our conversing in the public channel to help everyone but do you mind us querying for a bit so I can get a grasp on everything?
[05:57] <Remedy--> anyone?
[05:57] <XMD_> hellp, can anyone help me with installing ubuntu
[05:57] <XMD_> i have boooted Ubuntu from my flash drive, but when i try to install it... it says No root fule system
[05:58] <XMD_> im trying to install it to the same drive I am booting it live
[05:58] <TeamColtra> XMD_, are you saying you want to install it to the flash drive?
[05:59] <XMD_> TeamColtra: yes
[05:59] <TeamColtra> It already is
[05:59] <Remedy--> has anyone ever had a problem with dhcpcd saying invalid UDP packet from 192.168.x.x?
[05:59] <XMD_> ok
[05:59] <XMD_> i get it
[05:59] <XMD_> that swhat I though
[05:59] <XMD_> so then how to i use a .run file?
[06:00] <TeamColtra> Yeah it will show you the install link... but its already installed.
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: how are you connecting?
[06:00] <Z_Guru> You guys are the best!  Thank you both, I will explore both options and get back to you to let you know what worked.  Thanks noisewaterphd and milamber!
[06:00] <TeamColtra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[06:00] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: what do you mean? its wlan0
[06:00] <TeamColtra> XMD_, ^
[06:00] <milamber> Z_Guru: no problem.
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: then its a wireless connection
[06:00] <XMD_> ok thanks so much for this help, im a new user to ubuntu
[06:00] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: yes i wasnt sure what you meant
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: tried a different wireless channel, or different (or no) encryption
[06:01] <TeamColtra> XMD_, its what we are here for :)
[06:01] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: ill try a different wireless channel but id rather have my router running WPA
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: can the wireless interface connect to other wireless routers?
[06:01] <TeamColtra> That and the free coffee canonical gives us...
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: not all wireless interfaces can use WPA under Linux
[06:02] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: ive had this working before under ubuntu with no problems before
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: thats a ood sign
[06:03] <noisewaterphd> yacc, use WPA2, even WPA is dead simple to crack
[06:03] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: i literally cannot figure out where the invalid UDP packet is coming from tho...
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: think about it..... your interface is asking for DHCP. What is most likely the ONLY DHCP server you have.....
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> in fact i use WPA2, mac address filter, and change the password weekly here at home
[06:04] <Remedy--> ActionParsnip: obviously i mean tho im not sure why im getting an invalid UDP packet now when ive had this working before
[06:04] <noisewaterphd> but I am required to for work at home purposes
[06:04] <XMD_> TeamColtra:  how do i mark the .run file?
[06:04] <TeamColtra> "mark"?
[06:05] <XMD_> i am tryin got use ubuntu as a OS on my bitoin mining rigs
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Remedy--: possibly interference on the channel with another router using the same
[06:05] <XMD_> XMD_: mark it as executable and run it in a terminal
[06:05] <XMD_> ?
[06:05] <WilliamC> Okay, Ubtu crashed
[06:05] <WilliamC> Ubuntu crashed on install
[06:05] <WilliamC> During the Installing Language Packs screen
[06:05] <TeamColtra> XMD_, did you view my link?
[06:05] <noisewaterphd> XMD_: well chmod 777 will work for sure
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> if you are just trying to test it out
[06:06] <noisewaterphd> then scale it back for just the proper user afterwords
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> noisewaterphd: not necessary
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: if you run:   chmod +x filename       it will mark it as executable
[06:06] <XMD_> TeamColtra: didnt see your link
[06:06] <TeamColtra> XMD_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> well and if you su to the user running it you can set x for just that user as well
[06:07] <WilliamC> God damnit
[06:07] <hiexpo> !su
[06:07] <noisewaterphd> but I dont even know what program we are talking about or what kind of security risks are invloved
[06:08] <mrdeb> does relatime make any difference on lts kernel
[06:08] <TeamColtra> noisewaterphd, he is a novice using GUI -- I am going to presume he isn't comfortable with CHOWN
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: its a low latency kernel, great for sound developers
[06:08] <noisewaterphd> gotcha
[06:08] <mrdeb> what
[06:08] <noisewaterphd> jumping in late, ill shush
[06:08] <hiexpo> rtight click file   change ownership than
[06:09] <mrdeb> i asked if addting relatime makes any difference
[06:09] <magn3ts> mrdeb, do you mean "realtime" or "relatime"?
[06:09] <TeamColtra> XMD_, I normally wouldn't "over ride" other people -- but trust me follow the link I just linked to (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage ) and follow that and you will have no problems. Disregard the other stuff
[06:09] <Remedy-> ActionParsnip: cheers changing the channel worked perfectly
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[06:09] <WilliamC> magn3ts, it's giving me the same error with the regular version.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: not just a hat stand ;)
[06:10] <magn3ts> WilliamC, is it during install? before? during booting the live cd or what?
[06:10] <WilliamC> During install
[06:10] <magn3ts> Error msg again?
[06:10] <WilliamC> It just says that installer has crashed.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: I answer your question on realtime. It makes a difference but only in few situations, for standard desktop activities you won't see the benefits
[06:10] <WilliamC> It was during the language pack installation phase
[06:11] <magn3ts> WilliamC, hm
[06:11] <magn3ts> WilliamC, after it crashes... what do you get/see?
[06:11] <WilliamC> A desktop
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: someone nearby just got a new router and wasn't courteous (or smart) enough to scan to see what channels should be ok
[06:11] <XMD_> TeamColtra: after i run the thing in the terminal, the terminal just disappears/
[06:11] <magn3ts> Also, have you tried booting it? I think it install the lang packs after installing grub (but I could be wrong)
[06:11] <TeamColtra> XMD_, then its probably installed.
[06:11] <WilliamC> Then it tried to boot into desktop and show me the error log but that kept giving IO errors
[06:11] <XMD_> oh wow, i have never used this before...
[06:11] <WilliamC> I tried booting normally but my computer behaved as if no OS was installed
[06:11] <XMD_> where was it installed?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> XMD_: what filename do you have which you want to run?
[06:12] <XMD_> its the ATI drives
[06:12] <WilliamC> What other Linux distro should I use?
[06:13] <Remedy-> ActionParsnip: well im glad it works now, this actually wasnt an ubuntu problem i recently switched to arch linux and i just tried asking in here hoping someone had the same problem before
[06:13] <XMD_> drivers for my video cards
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: arch isnt supported here
[06:13] <somethinginteres> hi all can someone tell me how to find the /dev/ path to my internal mic. I see /dev/snd but using that path with ffmpeg results in an error
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Remedy-: ask in the arch channel in future, or switch to ubuntu
[06:13] <rcmaehl> My computer at a random time hard-freezes when runnning java. How can I find out the cause?
[06:14] <tadasbiz> guys quick question, i got older supermicro server laying around and just curious when it comes to pci-x/e - lets say i wanna put newer raid contreoller in it, does it really depend on the mother board, or "as long as it fits - it will work" ?
[06:14] <TeamColtra> Rarely do you need to install drivers from anywhere else but Ubuntu... and I would say more often than not you don't need those drivers in the first place. Is it a special GPU that doesn't have its driver in the Ubuntu repos yet?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: i'd ask in ##hardware
[06:14] <tadasbiz> thank you, will do.
[06:14] <rcmaehl> 11.04 64-bit
[06:15] <NielsMkn> hey guys, How do I remove the grub loader and get my windows loader back?
[06:15] <rcmaehl> Nielsen: reinstall windows?
[06:15] <mrdeb> NielsMkn: windows repaid option off cd
[06:15] <mrdeb> repair
[06:16] <NielsMkn> ah can I use syslinux for this?
[06:16] <rcmaehl> no
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: use your windows CD, ask in ##windows
[06:17] <NielsMkn> ok thanks :)
[06:17] <WilliamC> I just did upgrade from the failed install
[06:17] <folivora> Hello. I've got weird issue with my Ubuntu. After upgrade, i have used my ubuntu about two weeks. Now sudently, none of the applications wont start. Firefox ect... No errors in logs.
[06:17] <joar> NielsMkn back in 2004 or so I remember MAndriva / mandrake had an option on the installer cd to restore/ recreate windows boot
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: is the ram healthy?
[06:17] <AcidRain> NielsMkn: this is a linux irc server
[06:17] <folivora> Any idea ? I've checked HW, by dmesg it is allright.
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> joar: good ol mandrake :)
[06:17] <joar> :p
[06:17] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: Memtest detects no errors and it only happens with java
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: how did you install java?
[06:18] <folivora> Desktop works fine, no lag or issues, but when i am trying to start some app. IT wont start
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> folivora: run firefox from a terminal, what is output?
[06:18] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: umm repos i think
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: try: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[06:19] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:19] <WilliamC> Where can I find known installer bugs?
[06:20] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: what about what I'm using now
[06:20] <rcmaehl> Which is openjdk
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: not sure of that, that is a very good PPA with 64bit and 32bit java. If you want to use openjdk then I've no idea there as I don't use it :(
[06:21] <rcmaehl> ok
[06:21] <rcmaehl> thx
[06:22] <update> whats the best hacking book to read
[06:22] <magn3ts> update, what kind of hacking? this may not be appropriate for #ubuntu.
[06:23] <NielsMkn> later guys
[06:23] <update> magn3ts what channel would i go to
[06:23] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: ill let you know if it works
[06:23] <magn3ts> update, well like I said, depends on what you're really asking about. You can PM me if you like.
[06:23] <WilliamC> magn3ts, if Ubuntu doesn't work, what distro would you recommend?
[06:24] <magn3ts> WilliamC, did you answer my last question to you?
[06:24] <WilliamC> Yeah
[06:24] <magn3ts> WilliamC, depends on if it's a hardware thing or a bug in the installer.
[06:24] <magn3ts> lol
[06:24] <magn3ts> your disc is bad or your CD ROM is broken probably
[06:24] <magn3ts> Or your HD is failing.
[06:25] <update> everytime i start up ubuntu my screen freezes and i have to use a keyboard shortcut to unfreeze my screen.  Anyone have any ideas whats wrong?
[06:25] <magn3ts> based on IO errors... I'd recommend checking the disc on boot WilliamC
[06:25] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I already did that for hours
[06:25] <magn3ts> WilliamC, the memory check or disc check?
[06:26] <WilliamC> I ran the Boot and Nuke
[06:26] <magn3ts> The disk check should not take hours...
[06:26] <magn3ts> WilliamC, uh, not what I'm talking about at all.
[06:26] <magn3ts> DBAN isn't helpful in any of these scenaris
[06:26] <WilliamC> magn3ts, it checked for HDD errors at the same time
[06:26] <magn3ts> uh, DBAN? No, not the kind of check I'm talking about.
[06:26] <Cydd> what are these kinds of websites called http://tagwarrior.com/preview/?theme=BlueSteel%202.0  -- where the top bar extends across the screen like that? See a lot of sites like them but do they have a name?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> !ot | Cydd
[06:27] <Cydd> OMG
[06:27] <Cydd> jordan hates me!
[06:27] <magn3ts> WilliamC, DBAN is only used for Hard Drive wiping, which isn't really of concern to us right now.
[06:27] <magn3ts> Cydd, what do you mean? That's just a style property, not hard to reproduce on any old site.
[06:28] <WilliamC> magn3ts, maybe I should turn off update while installing
[06:28] <thunder1212> hi
[06:28] <magn3ts> WilliamC, lol, I told you things to try ;)
[06:28] <magn3ts> WilliamC, when the disc loads, don't press "Run/Install Ubuntu"
[06:28] <magn3ts> click, "Check Disc for Errors"
[06:28] <magn3ts> that shouldn't take a long time and I suspect is going to tell you that there is an error with the CD you made.
[06:28] <thunder1212> am usin' ubuntu lucid, should i install gnome shell from repos and it will have gnome3 desk environment??
[06:29] <magn3ts> thunder1212, you shouldn't install anything related to gnome3 in that ancient install.
[06:29] <magn3ts> thunder1212, gnome3 ppa break Natty... I'd hate to see what it does to Lucid.
[06:29] <WilliamC> Can I have Ubuntu continue from the point of failure?
[06:30] <hammoommah> hello all, whats the easiest solution for sharing my media dfiles between local users on laptop ubuntu 11.04
[06:30] <magn3ts> WilliamC, you mean when you go through can the installer pick up where it left off?
[06:30] <WilliamC> yeah
[06:30] <magn3ts> WilliamC, no. It can't do that.
[06:30] <WilliamC> damnit
[06:30] <magn3ts> Even if there was a way to code that reliably, the feature would probably never be developed for time-cost.
[06:30] <thunder1212> magn3ts, ok so the upgrade is not yet stable, and i should stick to gnome 2.. right : ) ?
[06:31] <magn3ts> thunder1212, yes
[06:31] <WilliamC> Where is the crash log located?
[06:31] <magn3ts> thunder1212, I wouldn't really think about gnome3 until Oneiric.
[06:31] <magn3ts> When it will be available and supported.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: gnome shell isn't in the repos
[06:32] <thunder1212> magn3ts, will Oneiric will release with gnome 3 ?
[06:32] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip, i enable lucid proposed and its showing there
[06:32] <hammoommah> should i create share folder in /share dir and use symlinks from each home folder?
[06:32] <magn3ts> thunder1212, not on disc or in the install.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: oneiric isn't discussed here, ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <magn3ts> you would have had to have enabled the gnome3 ppa to see gnome-shell in lucid.
[06:32] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip, ok
[06:33] <hammoommah> how do i get around permissions for sharing too?
[06:33] <WilliamC> I found the error
[06:34] <thunder1212> magn3ts, ok its there and its 5 Mb file i think its something incomplete.. anyway, i will stick to gnome 2 thnx ; )
[06:34] <WilliamC> SQUASHFS Error: unable to read data cache entry
[06:34] <thunder1212> Bye..
[06:34] <hammoommah> anyone?
[06:35] <qin> hammoommah: Sharing?
[06:35] <hammoommah> between users on local machine
[06:35] <hammoommah> all their media
[06:36] <bhavesh> Is the Ubuntu Software Center used in Ubuntu 11.04 version 4.0?
[06:36] <hammoommah> just wondering what the easist solution is
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> hammoommah: you could make a group and add the users you want to give acceess to the folder to the group, then make that group the group owner of the data
[06:37] <qin> hammoommah: idealy, make group sharingfolks and add users to that group, chown (ownership) /share for group and match permissions group in /share
[06:37] <hammoommah> ok coolies can do thanks
[06:37] <qin> ActionParsnip: Neat.
[06:38] <sawyer> test
[06:38] <magn3ts> WilliamC, like I said, I'm willing to bet it's a problem with: Your CD drive, Your CD, Your Hard Drive.
[06:39] <magn3ts> WilliamC, something, somewhere is trying to read something and is either unable to, or is getting corrupt data.
[06:39] <magn3ts> The chances of it being physical/media related is greater than a bug IMO (as a developer and troubleshooter)
[06:39] <WilliamC> It failed at both spots so it's probably the CD
[06:40] <WilliamC> I'm running a full RAM check right now
[06:40] <bazhang> WilliamC, md5 the iso and do the disk integrity check yet?
[06:41] <Israfel> I've been trying to install Virtualbox, but every method I've found doesn't work.
[06:41] <bazhang> Israfel, which version
[06:41] <Marco> hi, is it possible to pass a path to sudo?
[06:41] <sawyer> exit
[06:42] <Israfel> bazhang, 4.04
[06:42] <Israfel> bazhang, virtualbox-4.0_4.0.8-71778~Ubuntu~natty_amd64.deb
[06:43] <Israfel> bazhang, Also tried the script here: http://www.multimediaboom.com/install-virtualbox-4-0-4-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[06:43] <qin> Israfel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:43] <magn3ts> WilliamC, :/ just check the CD. RAM check will take over 10 times longer than the disc check....
[06:44] <magn3ts> its really, really, really easy to check too
[06:44] <ice9> Hey folks, I've got a line6 ux2, a piece of recording hardware, essentially an external sound card, and I found some drivers for it, but I'm not sure how proceed from there
[06:44] <magn3ts> ice9, not supported out of the box? What form are the drivers in?
[06:44] <magn3ts> (I don't really know how to help you, but that question is helpful to whoever can)
[06:45] <ice9> magn3ts, its from a subversion repository
[06:45] <magn3ts> ice9, link
[06:45] <ice9> svn co https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk line6usb
[06:45] <ice9> http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6/
[06:45] <Israfel> qin, unmet dependancie.
[06:45] <ice9> is where I found them
[06:45] <magn3ts> ice9, looks like it should be included in ubuntu according to the readme...
[06:46] <magn3ts> well, maybe not, I can't quite tell here.
[06:46] <ice9> how do I get to them?
[06:47] <magn3ts> ice9, the README tells you what you need to know
[06:47] <magn3ts> er, INSTALL: https://line6linux.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/line6linux/driver/trunk/INSTALL
[06:47] <Cydd> omfg amazing voice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Br5N3jOes
[06:48] <magn3ts> Cydd, do you need IRC rooms to post random stuff too? I have plenty that would appreciate it more than #ubuntu.
[06:48] <anonboo> Cydd, wrong channel
[06:48] <bazhang> Cydd, dont paste here
[06:48] <snimavat> Does ubuntu work on i7 sandy bridge CPU's ?
[06:48] <magn3ts> yes
[06:48] <snimavat> Will it work on my Dell XPS www.dell.com/us/p/xps-l502x/fs
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> snimavat: should be fine
[06:48] <magn3ts> probably
[06:48] <snimavat> Will it support the Nvidia G force 525 optimus ?
[06:48] <Cydd> omg
[06:48] <Cydd> the hate
[06:49] <Cydd> why dont you guys just lynch him
[06:49] <Cydd> here
[06:49] <bazhang> Cydd, stop
[06:49]  * Cydd grabs rope
[06:49] <FloodBot1> Cydd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <magn3ts> Cydd, it's a high traffic channel and you're spamming. what do you expect.
[06:49] <magn3ts> snimavat, probably?
[06:49] <snimavat> Okey, Great
[06:50] <SwedeMike> snimavat: I wouldn't base purchasing decisions on guessing. you need to do more research than ask here.
[06:50] <snimavat> I have ordered, Dell xps i7, 8GB, 750GB, Nvidia G force 525 optimus, blueray. Was concerned about ubuntu working on it
[06:50] <marcusg67> hello all, i have just set up a new comp, and when i boot, my new monitor says that Grub's resolution is "out of bounds" how do i change resolution that grub boots witbh
[06:50] <magn3ts> snimavat, SwedeMike is very right.
[06:50] <snimavat> SwedeMike : I am not in the process of deciding, i have already ordered.
[06:50] <DarsVaeda> hi, I miss the network-manager symbol in gnome / natty cause I'm on ethernet, how do I get it?
[06:51] <ice9> magn3ts, I'm sorry, I'm relearning all of this, but I get an error message doing the rpmbuild from that readme
[06:51] <SwedeMike> snimavat: well, then the only way to know is to try it.
[06:51] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, Open your Networking app and click the check box :)
[06:51] <DarsVaeda> where do I find that?
[06:51] <marcusg67> snimavat: that system should work nice with ubuntu
[06:51] <magn3ts> ice9, :/ you don't want to do RPM stuff in ubuntu. RPM is for redhat-related distros.
[06:51] <SwedeMike> snimavat: I am a lot less sure that it'll work ok than other people here.
[06:51] <snimavat> SwedeMike: Have not received it yet, but thanks
[06:51] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, you in Unity?
[06:51] <DarsVaeda> nope gnome
[06:51] <WilliamC> magn3ts, how long do you think it should take?
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> I was in "network connections" but there is no said checkbox
[06:52] <magn3ts> WilliamC, the CD check? idk, when doing it in Ubuntu it takes less than 3 minutes... can't imagine ti would take much longer.
[06:52] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, hm, you're right.
[06:52] <ice9> magn3ts, the source isn't working either, but I think I'm missing a step
[06:52] <snimavat> I have heard that Linux doesnt support the new i7 quad core cpus yet
[06:52] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, How did I do this before. Give me a sec.
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> I also know there is such checkbox anywere
[06:52] <DarsVaeda> or was
[06:52] <magn3ts> ice9, "make install" didn't work?
[06:53] <gartral> snimavat: that is a lie
[06:53] <WilliamC> magn3ts, no errors
[06:53] <magn3ts> snimavat, I have no idea why or how that could be true
[06:53] <magn3ts> WilliamC, :/ uhm...
[06:53] <snimavat> Okey, Thanks to you all friends here
[06:53] <ice9> magn3ts, the first step of "tar xjf line6usb-0.9.1beta.tar.bz2
[06:53] <ice9> "
[06:53] <ice9> says not found
[06:53] <magn3ts> I would either try installing from a USB or download a HD check utility from your HD manufacturers' site.
[06:53] <magn3ts> WilliamC, does your HD click or anything?
[06:53] <WilliamC> no
[06:54] <magn3ts> ice9, lol you need to be in the directory where you downloaded the line6usb TAR.GZ (think of ZIP) file to.
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> O.o
[06:54]  * V3NG3NC3 taps the mic
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> this thing on?
[06:54] <magn3ts> yes V3NG3NC3
[06:54] <ice9> magn3ts, where does it go by default?
[06:54] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ubuntu support issue?
[06:54] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I think I'll disable the update during install setting
[06:54] <magn3ts> WilliamC, I'd google the error message you found, make sure you have the terminal-ending error message...
[06:54] <V3NG3NC3> This is my very first time on IRC ever, very first room
[06:54] <Israfel> Apparently "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian natty contrib" is a broken repository.
[06:54] <magn3ts> ice9, IDK, /home/ice9/Downloads ?
[06:55] <magn3ts> Israfel, doesn't look like it to me. http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/pool/contrib/v/virtualbox-4.0/
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> is this a chill room or support room?
[06:55] <WilliamC> support
[06:55] <magn3ts> V3NG3NC3, support, there's probably #ubuntu-ot or something.
[06:55] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> oh nice
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> thanks
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> wish I knew about this last nigth
[06:55] <VerticalAsymptot>  
[06:55] <Israfel> magn3ts, Synaptic is giving a Broken error.
[06:55] <V3NG3NC3> was installing Lubuntu
[06:56] <magn3ts> Israfel, pastebin it to me, it's probably nonfatal. I get broken errors oftne.
[06:56] <Israfel> magn3ts, How do I do it outside the GUI so I can echo it to a file?
[06:58] <magn3ts> Israfel, `` sudo bash -c "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" &> out.txt
[06:58] <c_nick> how to check the CPU temperature?
[06:58] <magn3ts> Israfel, that will place standard and error output into out.txt
[06:58] <bazhang> !sensors > c_nick
[06:58] <gartral> snimavat: that system should work nice with ubuntu
[06:58] <gartral> hello all, i have just set up a new comp, and when i boot, my new monitor says that Grub's resolution is "out of bounds" how do i change resolution that grub boots witbh
[06:59] <dr_Willis> gartral:  edit /etc/default/grub
[06:59] <gartral> btw im on ubuntu 11.04 wit grub 2
[07:00] <dr_Willis> gartral:  one line to uncommet for a 640*480 grub screen wirks for me
[07:00] <ice9> Magn3ts, thanks for the help, got it all installed, the device is usb, how do I get it to power on or register?
[07:00] <dr_Willis> then update-grub
[07:00] <magn3ts> ice9, uh, no clue from there buddy
[07:00] <gartral> dr_Willis: i just changed it
[07:01] <WilliamC> magn3ts, I'm installing on the other HDD
[07:01] <magn3ts> WilliamC, good call.
[07:01] <WilliamC> But the other one is bigger and made by a better company
[07:01] <dr_Willis> gartral:  i had to use that on a few problem boxs. i think thats the only edit i did.
[07:01] <magn3ts> If it breaks now, it's either a bug or a problem with the CD-rom itself, but that seems unlikely since it passed the disc-check
[07:02] <Israfel> magn3ts, http://pastebin.com/5CUVD16t
[07:02] <magn3ts> WilliamC, man, I've had bad luck with every consumer disk brand to be honest
[07:02] <magn3ts> Israfel, that error is a problem with something else.
[07:02] <dr_Willis> they make disks cheap these days
[07:02] <gartral> dr_Willis: well, imma reboot. i'll brb if it failed
[07:02] <WilliamC> It's an 80 GB SeaGate and a 60GB WD Caviar
[07:02] <Israfel> Israfel, yeah, it doesn't mention the same error as the GUI.
[07:02] <magn3ts> Israfel, if you read it there, you can see: for some reason it's unable to install some dependency of virtualbox. I don't know how to cause or undo that configuration.
[07:03] <magn3ts> Israfel, not sure what you mean...
[07:03] <DarsVaeda> magn3ts: the solution was simple, although really uncomfortable ">: nm-applet"
[07:03] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, hahaha, enjoy yourself.
[07:04] <magn3ts> DarsVaeda, in Natty it's an app-indicator ;)
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, In Synaptic GUI it says I have a broken repository and to find it using the Broken filter.
[07:04] <DarsVaeda> I still have no idea how to make it stay there permanent thou
[07:04] <magn3ts> Israfel, does it say why it's broken?
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, Nope
[07:04] <magn3ts> Israfel, I'm willing to bet money it says "broken package" and not "broken repository"
[07:04] <Israfel> magn3ts, Maybe, i had to close it to run the CLI
[07:05] <magn3ts> Israfel, you can try it again if you like and let me know... I bet it will say that Virtualbox-4.0 is in a broken state.
[07:05] <snimavat> BTW: for i7 Sandy bridge CPU, I will need to download the 64 bit verion of ubuntu ryt
[07:05] <magn3ts> Israfel, I can show you how to remove Virtualbox-4.0, but I can't help you resolve that dependency problem... outside of saying to try enable multiverse/universe/etc.
[07:05] <Israfel> magn3ts, maybe I'll download 4.08 and give that one a try.
[07:06] <magn3ts> Israfel, wat.
[07:06] <magn3ts> Israfel, if you download the DEB and try to install it... it's going to tell you the precisely same thing.
[07:07] <Guest99221> hi, is there anybody using an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU+GPU ? it seems the GUI will lockup in Ubuntu 11.04.
[07:07] <hechu> hi, is there anybody using an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU+GPU ? it seems the GUI will lockup in Ubuntu 11.04.
[07:08] <TvL2386> is there a simple way to tell rails to use left joins instead of inner joins without writing the sql yourself?
[07:08] <Israfel> magn3ts, Well, I was going to try the source. Since there deb package isn't available from the website yet.
[07:08] <magn3ts> TvL2386, #rails
[07:08] <magn3ts> Israfel, oh.
[07:08] <TvL2386> magn3ts, whoops... wrong channel :D
[07:09] <magn3ts> Israfel, also, there are DEBS very available on vb.org.
[07:09] <SwedeMike> hechu: it locks up on a 2.5 year old intel centrino 2 as well, 11.04 is the most unstable release so far, and I've been running it on my thinkpad x200 since 8.10
[07:09] <magn3ts> Israfel, lol right on the Linux_Downloads page.
[07:09] <Israfel> magn3ts, Oh, thanks. I was on virtualbox.org
[07:09] <magn3ts> Israfel, I meant virtualbox.org
[07:10] <magn3ts> Israfel, all the i386 and AMD64 links are downloads: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[07:10] <Israfel> magn3ts, Victory baptist Church?
[07:10] <Israfel> magn3ts, Ah,ok
[07:11] <hechu> SwedeMike, oh, that's suck. Ubuntu usually runs fine on my old Dell laptop, but after I bought a new HP i5 laptop, the lockup occurs always almost every time as long as I use Intel driver. I have to switch to "fbdev" driver.
[07:14] <Romme> what can i do if i find myself unable to switch to virtual consoles?
[07:14] <gartral> dr_Willis: nope. didn't work, i think it's something to do wit the Westinghouse monitor the machine is hooked up to
[07:15] <Israfel> Romme, You can always just use screens instead.
[07:15] <Romme> Israfel: i'm in xorg now
[07:15] <gartral> dr_Willis: this is quite annoying as now i can't see Grub boot into windows
[07:15] <instantly> sup
[07:15] <WilliamC> It installed
[07:16] <instantly> hey
[07:16] <Israfel> Romme, Ah, you're in a GUI and want a console?
[07:16] <Romme> Israfel: yep
[07:16] <update> gentoo vs. ubuntu
[07:16] <instantly> who'd win?
[07:16] <dr_Willis> gartral:  odd there should be some mode/options that give you a basic text based grub menu. thsts what i use
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> update: tat is offtopic here
[07:17] <update> my bad actionparsnip
[07:17] <dr_Willis> gartral:  im not at home so cant check my vonfigs
[07:17] <Israfel> Romme, Ctrl-Alt-F1. F7 for GUI again
[07:17] <Romme> Israfel: if it worked, it would be cool :)
[07:17] <WilliamC> How do I setup autologon?
[07:18] <Israfel> Romme, It's not a virtual console, but it's a console if you need one.
[07:18] <gartral> dr_Willis: can i pm you my email
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC: its in "login screen"
[07:18] <dr_Willis> ill just lose it gartral  im on my vellphone.
[07:19] <tadasbiz> guys can you run dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync or hdparm /dev/your_drive just curious what is the usual i/o.
[07:19] <dr_Willis> very basic irc vlient here
[07:19] <gartral> dr_Willis: i can now confirm it's a monitor issue as the VT (F1-F6) gives me the same problems
[07:20] <Romme> Israfel: nevermind, i found the issue
[07:20] <gartral> dr_Willis: ok, ok. i'll remember too bring it up later if that's ok. when will you be home?
[07:20] <dr_Willis> gartral:  hmm there is the text option that may gix the consoles. but not grub
[07:20] <Romme> it was the gnome keyboard layout switcher, or whatever it's called
[07:20] <dr_Willis> 8 hrs from now. unless i get To do 12hrs
[07:20] <Romme> it was telling xorg to capture Ctrl + Alt + Whatever keys
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: i'll remember tomarrow. if that's ok?
[07:21] <dr_Willis> gartral:  check askubuntu.com also
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: http://pastie.org/2127661
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: will do
[07:21] <dr_Willis> ill be here sometime. heh
[07:21] <tadasbiz> ty
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> tadasbiz: its an 80Gb PATA drive
[07:21] <WilliamC> I don't see where the administrative settings are in the new version
[07:21] <arney> has the alt-f2 pasting issue been fixed?
[07:21] <gartral> dr_Willis: lol. ok
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> arney: what was the issue?
[07:22] <arney> that I can't paste into the unity alt-f2
[07:24] <OerHeks> arney, yes you can paste with click on mousewheen
[07:24] <OerHeks> or wheel
[07:24] <Milossh> how much RAM does ubuntu 32 support?
[07:24] <Milossh> ubuntu 11.04, that is
[07:25] <OerHeks> Milossh, 4 Gb
[07:25] <WilliamC> Holy crap, my Seagate has 46 bad sectors
[07:25] <Milossh> ok, then I'm switching to 32bit :)
[07:26] <Milossh> any easy way to downgrade to 32 bit version?
[07:26] <XMD_> #bitcoin-mining
[07:26] <WilliamC> So, do HDD sectors just go bad over time?
[07:26] <wildbat> WilliamC: they do
[07:27] <WilliamC> This computer is about a decade old, well, the one I'm installing on
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: 32bit will run about 4Gb, 32bit PAE can use 12Gb
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: reinstall will be needed to switch to 32bit
[07:27] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, full install?
[07:27] <Milossh> as in, remove everything and install?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> WilliamC: they wear out, yes. I'd ask in ##hardware
[07:28] <pcypher> has anyone had luck getting 5.1 sound using a realtek acl892 chipset on an asus p8p67 mobo running 10.10 ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: yes, you can restore user data and settings from backup
[07:28] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, which backup software would you recommend?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: there are many, I just use a cheap and cheerful copy and paste. Why do you not have a backup?
[07:30] <Milossh> ActionParsnip, never needed it :/
[07:30] <sandGorgon> Phoronix bisects linux power problem for upto 15% battery life savings http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=16181 . try adding "pcie_aspm=force" to your boot commandline
[07:30] <Milossh> but this is the first time I'm using 64bit
[07:30] <Milossh> and it sucks, big time
[07:31] <Milossh> I mean, os as distribution, is ok. but apps for it just suck
[07:31] <Milossh> skype, for one
[07:31] <dr_Willis> i cant think of any 64bit iddues iv ever had
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: there is 64bit skype
[07:32] <Milossh> also, is there a plan for thunderbird to replace evolution?
[07:32] <dr_Willis> i imsgine skype for linux will vanish soon
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: nar, too much revenue loss from users
[07:32] <Milossh> dr_Willis, yeah, I expect nothing less from Microsoft
[07:32] <dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  time will tell
[07:33] <V3NG3NC3> is there a nice room for ubuntu nto full of trolls?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> dr_Willis: microsoft love that money
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: here
[07:33] <V3NG3NC3> :)
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> So what's the convo?
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> oh got a few questions
[07:34] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ubuntu support only
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> ubuntu ?
[07:34] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, yes
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> I use cinema4d on windows
[07:34] <V3NG3NC3> what is a linux equivlant?
[07:35] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, ##windows then
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> nanan
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> ^read
[07:35] <bazhang> !equivalents | V3NG3NC3
[07:35] <pcypher> one more shot... has anyone had luck getting 5.1 sound using a realtek acl892 chipset on an asus p8p67 mobo running 10.10 ?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: is it a 3D photo viewer?/
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> nah, 3D how you say,...
[07:35] <V3NG3NC3> um
[07:36] <V3NG3NC3> 3D video moddleing
[07:36] <bazhang> V3NG3NC3, check the link yet?
[07:36] <V3NG3NC3> looking now
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: blender
[07:36] <dr_Willis> never heard of it. what dies it do
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> V3NG3NC3: http://techcityinc.com/2009/01/20/free-3d-graphic-design-applications-for-linux/
[07:38] <pcypher> ls
[07:38] <pcypher> oops sorry
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> Crystal Space looks promising
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> blender makes me wanna vommit
[07:39] <V3NG3NC3> lol
[07:39] <magn3ts> they just redid the whole ui
[07:40] <c_nick> on running sensors I get temp1 (which i presume is CPU) M/B temp: (which is presume is Motherboard) but there is also a temp3 (which is remote) what is this remote temp ?
[07:40] <whosurdaddy> hello
[07:40] <V3NG3NC3> wow this looks kewl
[07:40] <V3NG3NC3> http://www.gsmarena.com/mobiado_and_aston_martin_show_transparent_droid_phone_concept-news-2448.php
[07:41] <bazhang> !ot | V3NG3NC3
[07:44] <petsounds> pcypher, 5.1 sound when playing dvd? or are you trying to upmix stereo file to 5.1? at home i have p8 too and have no prob getting 5.1 sound, it's out of the box.
[07:45] <arney> argh, I just updated ubuntu and my unity alt-F2 still doesn't take pasting.
[07:45] <arney> How do I fix that
[07:45] <magn3ts> given unity as a whole, you probably dont
[07:46] <Luxe> http://i.imgur.com/Z8WJ1.png
[07:46] <Luxe> I finished my desktop <3
[07:46] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[07:46] <pcypher> petsounds: all I can do is stereo... if I try to select 5.1 no sounds from any channel. I have not tried from a dvd yet, just file playback
[07:47] <pcypher> petsounds: my reading led me to believe this was a common and known issue
[07:47] <magn3ts> Luxe, you're only missing Cardapio
[07:47] <arney> any alternatives to Alt-F2?
[07:47] <nawk> is there a known issue with multi-monitor setup (xinerama) in Natty Narwhal?
[07:47] <Luxe> Cardapio?
[07:47] <Luxe> What's that again?
[07:48] <magn3ts> Luxe, http://images.maketecheasier.com/2010/06/appmenu-cardapio.png
[07:48] <arney> nawk: edge finding is broken in comy piz
[07:49] <nawk> I've been using the exact same xorg.conf for my triple monitor setup w/o problems,  but in 11.04 the other two screen goes black
[07:49] <petsounds> pcypher, did sound volume icon looks mute? also try to install pavumeter you can configure per channel volume from there.
[07:49] <nawk> *but* you could clearly see the cursor being able to move between the *3 monitors
[07:50] <pcypher> petsounds: ill give that a shot, thanks
[07:50] <petsounds> pcypher, yw
[07:50] <dimas_> i am trying to start jackd alsa ans says that the default server is already running...how i know what is running?
[07:51] <Luxe> I don't want that magn3ts
[07:53] <dimas_> what could be running as a default server using the sound jack?...and i just restart the computer
[07:53] <hondje> this is stupid, but where do i change the ntp server?
[07:54] <dr_Willis> dimas_:  the service command
[07:55] <dimas_> the service command?...what is that?...using the sound jack?
[07:55] <dr_Willis> nawk:  natty well unity. had some muitidisplay issues
[07:55] <dr_Willis> sudo service --help
[07:56] <dr_Willis> !jackd
[07:56] <dimas_> i am trying to start an application and dont start cause the jack is in use...so how i can terminate the default server using it?...or is it possible?
[07:56] <dr_Willis> hmm ibe never needed jackd.
[07:57] <dimas_> me either
[07:57] <dr_Willis> pulse service nay be using it
[07:57] <dimas_> but how i find out who use it?
[07:57] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[07:57] <dr_Willis> pulse is about the only other audio servive i know of
[07:59] <dimas_> willis the terminal display the help but i dont really know much about what to do with that info...lol
[08:00] <hondje> nvm found it
[08:03] <leagris> Hello, what's that update-apt-xapi taking 99% cpu ?
[08:03] <dr_Willis> dimas_:  puse audio is rhe only other thing be default that is a sound relatwd serbice
[08:04] <dimas_> i dont think i have that
[08:04] <dimas_> i check
[08:05] <dr_Willis> pulse is default in ubuntu
[08:05] <dr_Willis> !pulse
[08:08] <leagris> dr_Willis, look like you messed the order of your fingers this morning when your brain returned from suspend mode ;d
[08:15] <Guest95677> is there a way to restore groups after using chgrp?
[08:16] <_NiC> Guest95677, from backup, I guess.
[08:17] <_NiC> or just use chgrp again.. :)
[08:18] <Guest95677> _NiC: I ran chgrp -R http / which got to run for 2-3 seconds before I realized what happened and aborted it
[08:18] <Guest95677> Are there some logs produced by chgrp?
[08:19] <_NiC> Guest95677, wups. :) No logging unless you used verbose and piped to a file..
[08:19] <DND> hi guys, do you know any cloud based file server that offers also some "collaboration"? i mean something like: one file can be edited by multiple users
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, you can at least find out what's been changed: find / -user http and if you're lucky, there's a fair chance that it'll be fine by setting those to group root.
[08:20] <DND> we wanted to implement our own server
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, depending on which files are affected of course
[08:20] <Guest95677> _NiC: can I exclude a dir with find?
[08:20] <_NiC> Guest95677, yes, but I can't remember the exact syntax
[08:23] <Flannel> DND: try gobby (and sobby is the server if you want one, or you just pick one guy to host from gobby)
[08:23] <DND> well that's a unique name. (sob)by
[08:23] <Flannel> DND: It works on the internet.  It's not "cloud based", but that's a silly requirement to begin with.
[08:24] <fairuz> Guest95677: I think it's something like find thedir -not -name thediryouwanttoexclude ......
[08:24] <dr_Willis> leagris:  on my cell phone
[08:25] <DND> hmm we wanted to implement something like dropbox. i mean i will just mount a network drive to windows and upload
[08:25] <DND> we're talking about end-users here :D
[08:25] <DND> who complains everything tough :D
[08:25] <DND> *is tough
[08:26] <dr_Willis> isent there some gpl dripbox clone out?
[08:26] <DND> im checking out ifolder and owncloud
[08:26] <DND> but i havent seen something like locking a file while its being edited
[08:27] <dr_Willis> google has somthing like thst. dont they
[08:28] <Brett6781_phone> anyone have a clue as to how to install 10.10 on a PS3?
[08:28] <yuike> hmm
[08:28] <Brett6781_phone> been looking through tons of guides for the PPC distros
[08:29] <Brett6781_phone> since the PS3 is running a PPC processor
[08:29] <yuike> if i have a screen session on my mac, then i ssh and have another screen session, how do i detach from the screen session within the ssh session, and not the one on my mac?
[08:29] <OerHeks> !ppc
[08:30] <yuike> i am sshing into ubuntu btw, but maybe this is a osx question
[08:30] <Brett6781_phone> yeah, saw that...
[08:31] <OerHeks> Brett6781_phone, this will work if you have the old bios > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[08:31] <Brett6781_phone> someone convered merkat though to work on PPC
[08:31] <Brett6781_phone> thanks, now just to get aroung sony's BS blocks
[08:32] <Brett6781_phone> looks like I'm gonna have another fun night of BIOS modding... uggggg
[08:32] <OerHeks> Brett6781_phone, 10.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
[08:33] <Brett6781_phone> thanks!
[08:33] <OerHeks> this is all i have
[08:35] <Starminn> Banshee will not open. I have tried purging it and reinstalling, but it continually gives me this error: http://pastie.org/2122608 while launching it from terminal gives me this: http://pastie.org/2122611
[08:37] <pankaj_sharma> Starminn, whats the error?
[08:37] <dr_Willis> removeing stuff via apt does Not remove user settingd. try making a new user see if the apt works fir them
[08:38] <dr_Willis> if it does work. clean out the problem user settings.
[08:39] <danslo1> dr_Willis: use apt-get remove --purge package, instead of just remove
[08:40] <danslo1> dr_Willis: oh. you were responding
[08:40] <danslo1> nevermind me :)
[08:40] <dr_Willis> danslo1:  that will not remove USER settings in /home/
[08:40] <Starminn> pankaj_sharma: IT's in the link..
[08:40] <dr_Willis> heh
[08:41] <danslo1> dr_Willis: yeah, I've always wondered how you properly keep your home folder clean... I always check the files manually and delete if necessary
[08:41] <Starminn> danslo1: By the way, sudo apt-get purge is the same as sudo apt-get remove --purge (to my understanding, anyway) so less typing
[08:41] <dr_Willis> its a complex problem
[08:42] <danslo1> same goes for installing packages from source, there isn't really a way to remove everything properly unless you still have makefile and it has proper uninstall rule
[08:42] <danslo1> it's an annoying problem imo :)
[08:42] <Duck_> So... I'm going to be traveling with my new ubuntu netbook. Is there anything you would recommend to do for protection on open wireless networks?
[08:42] <dr_Willis> my android phone is cluttered also
[08:42] <danslo1> Duck_: don't do anything that you dont want public :)
[08:43] <Duck_> Should I setup a firewall or something?
[08:44] <dr_Willis> if you want
[08:44] <danslo1> Duck_: I wouldn't be too worried about your netbook being infiltrated... more worried about people sniffing your network traffic ;)
[08:45] <sandGorgon> Duck_, make sure your Facebook and Twitter accounts (amongst others) have HTTPS enabled
[08:46] <Botnet> hi all
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> danslo1: bleachbit is good :)
[08:52] <Razor11> excuse me guys.. i would like to ask a question..
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: ask away :)
[08:52] <Razor11> is ubuntu and kubuntu the same?
[08:53] <gener1c> hey , i got a protege 835 with ubuntu 64bit 6.390generic kernel
[08:53] <gener1c> i upgraded to this kernel from 6.38
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: under the hood, yes. They are the same OS with different DE and default applications
[08:53] <gener1c> because the notebook kept on freezing
[08:53] <Razor11> so which one do you prefer?
[08:53] <gener1c> but it still does after the update
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: lxde here
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: ask in #ubutu+1 if you are using the 39 kernel, that is the oneiric branch
[08:54] <Razor11> how about julinux? is it an ubuntu os??
[08:54] <gener1c> yeah i wanted to ask what that branch was
[08:55] <gener1c> what does this oneiric mean
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: its yet another spinoff and is not supported in any of the official ways the official canonical releases are
[08:55] <gener1c> it has the same kernel versions
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: its the codename of 11.10
[08:55] <gener1c> oh
[08:55] <gener1c> anyways ActionParsnip i was using natty 64bit
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: i'd test your RAM
[08:55] <gener1c> upgraded kernel because there was a post about it fixing my issue
[08:55] <gener1c> but it didnt
[08:56] <chat_xwj> excuse,how can i list the channels according a command?thank you
[08:56] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: thanks, plus the fan goes crazy if it helps
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Razor11: there are tonnes of spinoff OSes based on Ubuntu  which are equally not supported here
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: maybe there is a bug with ACPI with your system, I'd check for bugs too
[08:57] <gener1c> how would i go about doing that?
[08:58] <only> :'( tutorial install nessus in ubuntu 10.10
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: websearch
[09:01] <gener1c> well when using a livecd to check my ram all is ok
[09:01] <gener1c> but when i use the test that came with ubuntu it freezes
[09:01] <gener1c> and the fan goes crazy
[09:02] <gener1c> :P
[09:02] <MagePsycho> guys how to search for files with word: function __()
[09:02] <default_> Всем привет
[09:03] <default_> У меня есть папа, который любит порносайты и я хочу ему поставить ubunutu, чтобы вирусы не хватал, подскажитье нормальную убунту для хомячков
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> MagePsycho: you can use grep, or one of the GUI apps
[09:03] <Xylane> O.o I'm just here because I can't sleep o.o
[09:03]  * Xylane counts sheep
[09:04] <MagePsycho> yes grep but whts the full command.. since i am very new to ubuntu commands
[09:04] <default_> sorry
[09:05] <Xylane> Is there a channel on freenode for insomniacs or something o.o?
[09:05] <fairuz> MagePsycho: find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'yoursearchstring here'
[09:05] <Starminn> Xylane: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <Xylane> Sorry
[09:05] <Starminn> Xylane: No, I mean you should go there. :)
[09:05] <Xylane> Oh, ty
[09:06]  * Xylane bows to Starminn
[09:07] <MagePsycho> thanks fairuz
[09:07] <MagePsycho> let me try
[09:09] <MagePsycho> fairuz how to ignore .svn file during search?
[09:09] <fairuz> -not -name '.svn'
[09:09] <fairuz> I think so ^^
[09:14] <MagePsycho> thanks i will try
[09:15] <MagePsycho> "find: invalid argument `-not' to `-type'"
[09:15] <MagePsycho> error
[09:15] <MagePsycho> not working fairuz
[09:16] <fairuz> what's your command
[09:16] <fairuz> f is couple with -type you know...
[09:16] <fairuz> *coupled
[09:16] <dodino> hi all
[09:18] <fairuz> MagePsycho: find -not -name '.svn' -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'searchstring'
[09:19] <Starminn> Grep only searches the contents of files (or a string), and not files themselves, correct? File names are what find is for, yes?
[09:21] <fairuz> Starminn: afaik, yes...
[09:24]  * brogger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvkyX1Kp5YA
[09:27] <gener1c> when i run the ubuntu memtest from the harddrive the laptop freezes and when i run it from another linux livecd it runs smooth
[09:28] <gener1c> ah and the fan goes crazy
[09:30] <gener1c> this is a brand new toshiba r835 its hard for me to belive its hardware related
[09:31] <stefan_> Hello! May I use an Xfce Applet in Gnome?
[09:31] <stefan_> And if yes, how can I do?
[09:33] <xrfang> hello, I need to learn the structure of a deb package and process to build it, is the debian policy manual a good document for this?
[09:34] <gjm_> blah
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> xrfang: i'd say so, also look into checkinstall
[09:35] <kat32> hello
[09:35] <xrfang> ActionParsnip, thanks. I need detail about the package format, not introduction about debian archives, I do see some relevant chapters in the policy manual, hope it is *detailed* enough
[09:36] <ledjo> acicula morning!
[09:37] <ledjo> :)
[09:37] <oxyzen> xrfang: i'd say take a look at the other packages as well
[09:37] <windparadise> is there a way to decode a mobile phone using ubuntu?
[09:37] <xrfang> oxyzen, what other packages? you mean "checkinstall"?
[09:37] <oxyzen> oxyzen: rpm and others
[09:37] <oxyzen> haha, xrfang
[09:38] <xrfang> oxyzen, hehe.
[09:38] <xrfang> that would be too much, but I do want to learn the basics, tools like dh_make are not what I need at this moment
[09:39] <windparadise> any suggestion?
[09:39] <kat32> can someone help me connect to the internet wirelessly? only wired connection is recognized
[09:40] <xrfang> kat32, that could be a complex process if it is not done automatically ;)
[09:41] <gener1c> ok i googled it and the solutions in the forums didnt help, my comp freezes on memtest from harddrive and the fan goes crazy (the ubuntu memtest choice on bootup) but when i run the memtest from my old archlinux livecd it works like a charm
[09:41] <kat32> mmm really? that is :(
[09:41] <ledjo> a question: I installed samba and I can see both windows and xubuntu comp on either one of the comps, but I don't see shared folders...
[09:41] <gener1c> anyone has an idea what could cause that?
[09:41] <xrfang> kat32, well, it depends.
[09:41] <xrfang> kat32, do you know what is the chipset of your wireless card
[09:42] <kat32> i dont
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> kat32: sudo lshw -C network    will show the wireless chip and you can use it to find uides
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> *guides
[09:42] <ledjo> kat32 I know
[09:42] <ledjo> 1: install ndiswrapper
[09:43] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: memtest gives good results only when ran from livecd , when ran from grub it immidiatly freezes the notebook and the fan goes nuts
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: failing memtest isn't good dude
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: i suggest you power off and remove a stick of ram, then retest
[09:44] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: it doesnt fail thats the point
[09:44] <Thorn> hello. I'm trying to install 11.04 on an asus P5N-MX mobo (nforce 610i) but get an error right when cd boots (a pseudographics table that says err=8). cd works fine on other  systems. any ideas?
[09:44] <ledjo> kat32 this is if u cant find drivers from your wlan card for linux u can then use windows drivers
[09:44] <gener1c> when i run it from livecd it gives perfect results AcidRain
[09:45] <gener1c> when i run it from livecd it gives perfect results
[09:45] <kat32> xrfang how can i find this?
[09:46] <gener1c> ok im gone
[09:46] <xrfang>  kat32: as ActionParsnip said, sudo lshw -C network    will show the wireless chip and you can use it to find uides
[09:46] <xrfang>  *guides
[09:47] <Thorn> any alternate booting method that I can use?
[09:47] <kat32> there is alot of informaton with this command
[09:47] <ledjo> but if its older wlan card like mine, I couldn't find linux drivers
[09:47] <xrfang> kat32, what kind of computer it is? desktop or laptop? brand and model?
[09:48] <kat32> dell laptop
[09:48] <ledjo> kat32 do u have windows drivers for the wlan card?
[09:48] <xrfang> kat32, that could be simpler, just search for linux driver for this model
[09:49] <kat32> ledjo i think so. windows are broken and i m using ubuntu
[09:50] <kat32> xrfang any sugestions? :)
[09:50] <xrfang> kat32, there are a couple of ways to get your wireless working. you just follow one of them
[09:50] <Somelauw> What is the thing called that pops up when saving a file?
[09:50] <xrfang> I suggest you either try ndiswrapper, or try goole your model
[09:51] <ledjo> install 1.ndiswrapper then then 2.ndisgtk the go to applications -> system -> windows wirelles driver and add inf. file from your windows driver folder
[09:51] <xrfang> kat32, there are already suggestions given ;)
[09:52] <ledjo> * .inf
[09:53] <TrevInc> can someone assist me with accessing a Windows Share from Ubuntu?
[09:53] <kat32> i need both ndiswrapper and ndisgtk?
[09:54] <ledjo> so 1. ndiwrapper , 2. ndisgtk and 3. go to applications - sys - windows wireless lan (the last 1) and add a windows driver (.inf)
[09:55] <Somelauw> Can I change the dialog that pops up when saving a file from openoffice?
[09:55] <ledjo> u have to download ndiwrapper, ndisgtk and windows driver of your wlan..
[09:55] <Milossh> I'm looking at the gnome-look.org, and I was wondering if GTK+3 are the right themes for me, for ubuntu 11.04
[09:56] <adi_> anyone der ?
[09:57] <adi_> does the system gets destabilized if I remove all files in /var/log/ directory ?
[09:57] <jatt> yes
[09:58] <jatt> why remove? there is logrotate.
[09:58] <adi_> @jatt are you sure I'm desperate to remove lol
[09:58] <ledjo> so what about my problem: I can't see folder I shared on my windows pc nor other way around..
[10:00] <ledjo> I can see both computers on either of the networks but when I click xubuntu in windows it just emty and when I click windows pc in xubuntu it can't access it...
[10:00] <adi_> no jatt I just wanted to see all the new log after a fresh boot up. so I want to remove everything and I can see new log
[10:00] <jatt> Not sure really :), but it can be a program chokes because it cannot write to a file that was in /var/log
[10:01] <ledjo> kat32 any luck?
[10:02] <adi_> @ledjo is samba installed properly did you try ubuntu to ubuntu via samba
[10:03] <ledjo> yeah I installed it like everything else, I only have 1 notebook with ubuntu insatlled on it
[10:04] <adi_> @jatt any program just appends new log to the old file. if the file isn't present it just creates a new one and appends to it rite ?
[10:05] <ledjo> the desktop pc has 7 on it
[10:05] <ledjo> I can see comps in network but not access them
[10:06] <adi_> ok how are you trying to open the shared folder in win 7
[10:06] <adi_> try opening the drive through "run"
[10:06] <ledjo> I can't cause I can't access the ubuntu pc in network
[10:07] <ledjo> only in 7 when I click on ubuntu comp it opens but it's empty
[10:07] <kat32> ledjo, no luck yet. i ve installed drives then you mean network>windows network?
[10:07] <varunthacker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10985005#post10985005 -- any comments on how to solve this problem
[10:08] <ledjo> did u install ndiswrapper and then ndisgtk?
[10:08] <ledjo> kat
[10:08] <kat32> y
[10:08] <adi_> ledjo if you no ubuntu pc's IP try running this command on RUN "//IPadrress/folderlocation/"
[10:09] <ledjo> applications menu - sysytem - windows wireless lan?
[10:09] <adi_> *know
[10:09] <ledjo> u opened it
[10:09] <sudipta> is Dictionary not installed in natty by default?
[10:09] <ledjo> windows wireless driver I mean
[10:10] <sudipta> if  not then how to install is
[10:10] <sudipta> *it?
[10:10] <kat32> cant find it
[10:11] <Sterist> how do i change my password?
[10:11] <adi_> @sudipta its already installed in it
[10:11] <siton> # passwd yourname
[10:11] <sudipta> adi_:where?
[10:11] <Sterist> siton not IRC lol ubuntu
[10:12] <adi_> @sudipta just enter windows key and enter dictonary
[10:12] <ledjo> but if u installed ndiswrapper and then ndigtk, after u install ndisgtk u get this entry in applications menu -> system
[10:12] <sudipta> adi_:i have....no result
[10:12] <ledjo> u sure u installed them both properly?
[10:13] <Squarism> How does dpkg relate to aptitude really.. i can use both for installation but how do they differ and do they interact?
[10:13] <Sterist> how do i change my password?
[10:13] <KM0201> !password
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndiswrapper-common (1.53-2ubuntu1) ...
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (1.53-2ubuntu1) ...
[10:13] <kat32> Γίνεται εγκατάσταση ndisgtk (0.8.4-1) ...
[10:13] <ledjo> ndisgt is windows wireless driver, if u don't see it in menu it means u didn't install it
[10:13] <adi_> @sudipta try gnome-dictionary in terminal
[10:14] <sudipta> adi_:still...nothing
[10:15] <adi_> @sudipta lol then try installing it "sudo apt-get install gnome-dictionary"
[10:15] <adi_> @sudipta else try dictionary keyword in synaptic
[10:16] <ledjo> I used that for this laptop and I'm on internet right now, kat
[10:17] <kat32> ok ty guys, i'll try again
[10:19] <sudipta> Adi_:ok...i've got it...thnx
[10:19] <adi_> sudipta: cool
[10:20] <sudipta> adi: :)
[10:20] <ledjo> the problem with ubuntu or other distros is that u have to do a serious of sometimes very complicated or annoying operations just to get simple things like to connect to internet or to connect 2 computers in a network or some things that u do just like that in ex. XP..
[10:21] <ranjan> can anyone help me in getting my mails to inbox of reciepients instead of spambox
[10:22] <ledjo> now for some computer freaks it can be interesting or challenging but for me it is really annoying..
[10:22] <dimas_> i am experiencing some problems after restart the computer because a application wasnt responding...but from that moment i can not open the application because it says that one of his components is already running...-what should i do?
by any chance u happened to live in kolkata,jadavpur?
[10:22] <velofille> ledjo, cant say i have ever had any major problems with that
[10:23] <KrUpTiOn> Hello.. I'm kinda new here. I have a question/problem.  I am running Unbuntu and Windows 7, dual boot on a netbook. After I installed Unbuntu, the boot loader/menu's option to boot into Windows won't work. Any ideas what the problem might be?
[10:23] <ledjo> look in task manager if its really running and shut it down
[10:23] <ranjan> sudipta, no, why?
[10:23] <adi_> @dima_ try killing that app
[10:23] <dimas_> task manager?
[10:24] <adi_> try this command "sudo killall -s 9 <appname>"
[10:24] <sudipta> ranjan:nothin' ...happens to know someboby by that name who is a ubuntu lover :)
[10:24] <adi_> @dimas_:try this command "sudo killall -s 9 <appname>"
[10:24] <dimas_> adi that is going to terminate the whole computer?
[10:25] <adi_> @dimas_ lol no it just kills that app
[10:25] <Nisstyre> yes
[10:25] <dimas_> ok
[10:25] <ranjan> sudipta, i was an ubuntu lover till the launch of unity :)
[10:25] <dimas_> i tryed
[10:25] <KrUpTiOn> I'm having trouble with my boot loader, I have Unbuntu 10.4 and Windows 7, Can't boot into windows. Can someone msg me to give me a little help please?
[10:25] <adi_> @dimas_ so start it again
[10:25] <dimas_> cause i already reinstall the application from diferent sourse and still having the problem
why...now u aint?
[10:26] <ledjo> I have problems all the time, with samba, then for example I connected psp for the 1 time, I copied files from there I needed for wlan etc, I unmounted and when I connected it again it didn't show on desktop anymore so I found it in /media but I couldn't access it anymore unless I do it as root
[10:26] <ranjan> sudipta, i dont like unity
unity needs lots of polishing though,I feel
[10:26] <dimas_> adi oke i will try that
[10:26] <ledjo> so I did and then starting from today I can't see it any more even as root
[10:26] <adi_> @dimas_ I didn't get ur problem
perhaps the developers might do smthng abt it
[10:27] <ranjan> sudipta, i wonder why ubuntu didnt work with gnome3
[10:27] <adi_> @ranjan I don't like unity too
[10:27] <ranjan> sudipta, afterall both unity and gnome3 looks similar
[10:27] <ranjan> adi_, yea
[10:27] <adi_> @ranjan I missing gconf-tools
wait till october.11.10 will support gnome3
[10:27] <ledjo> then there is a screen saver problem, after ca. 5 min when screen saver plays it freezes and I can only shut it down
[10:28] <Somelauw> Can I replace the file open/save dialog to something better?
[10:28] <Somelauw> Maybe by not using gtk?
[10:28] <dimas_> adi should i restart the computer before i try again?
[10:28] <ledjo> then this samba issues, I mean every day u get another new issue..
[10:29] <adi_> @dimas_ no need. May I know what app are you trying to run ?
gnome3 breaks some dependencies in natty and the dev team have managed to overpower it
[10:30] <ledjo> or sometimes I wait for 'ages' till it opens my user folder after I click it..
[10:30] <ledjo> etc
[10:30] <dimas_> adi i am trying to run idjc (internet dj console) but after it cratch dont want to start anymore and is a problem with the jack cause it says is running already
[10:30] <ranjan> sudipta, no, i was thinking about ubuntu contributing to gnome3 instead of moving with a separate project
[10:31] <dimas_> adi so i just killed jackd with the bullet you gave me and going to try again
[10:31] <dimas_> i let you know
[10:31] <ledjo> generally I'm far from satisfied with this ubuntu version
[10:34] <kudzyjonez> hie
[10:36] <ledjo> it's an older laptop, I killed xp cause its slower comparing to xubuntu, but I didn't have any software problems with it. on desktop I got 7 cause I play wow too but nevertheless I don't think I'd install any linux on it..
[10:37] <MadHaTTer666> IM HERE TO BE BANNED DO IT OR SUFFER THE CONCEQUENCES
[10:37] <arney> firefox: no screen specified
[10:37] <arney> Im trying to run it from ssh
[10:38] <arney> any ideas?
[10:38] <ledjo> I mean if I'm just going to use this laptop for surfing, I could have 'installed' puppy and not this one!
[10:40] <ledjo> haha madha
[10:40] <rhin0> you can't run firefox through ssh you need it as part of your desktop ie. .... ssh doesn't give you control over your graphics on your desktop
[10:40] <ledjo> kat32 what happened?
[10:40] <rhin0> arney
[10:41] <rhin0> ssh is text only for remote manipulation through command line
[10:41] <jpds> rhin0: Actually, it does.
[10:41] <jpds> rhin0: With X forwarding.
[10:41] <arney> So there is no way I could tell it to run firefox on my desktop?
[10:41] <rhin0> jpds I suspect arney doesn't have anything like that set up jpds
[10:41] <jpds> rhin0: I think it's like that by default.
[10:42] <MadHaTTer666> fucking shit cunt bitch licking dog eating motherfucking whore
[10:42] <arney> How do I forward it to my active xorg
[10:42] <rhin0> if I run a gui app through ssh it will report exactly what arney is seeing jpds 'no monitor' no screen
[10:42] <velofille> rhin0, assh -X says you can
[10:42] <velofille> ssh*
[10:42] <jpds> arney: ssh -X your.machine
[10:42] <velofille> ssh -X otherdesktop
[10:42] <rhin0> it'll throughput the gui app onto your own X session?
[10:43] <jpds> arney: Then run 'firefox' when you get a shell.
[10:43] <velofille> then run commands
[10:43] <rhin0> just ssh -X?
[10:43] <jpds> rhin0: Yes.
[10:43] <rhin0> wow
[10:43] <velofille> ssh is full of hidden awesome
[10:43] <rhin0> its essential
[10:44] <jpds> rhin0: Of course, sshd will need the config allowing X forwarding, etc.
[10:44] <velofille> jpds, i think by default on ubuntu it works
[10:44] <jpds> But that should be on by default.
[10:44] <velofille> yep :)
[10:46] <arney> That sounds cool. Im running ssh on android though :b
[10:46] <Sterist> how do i install a file in a .tar.gz ?
[10:47] <rahin88> @Sterist first extract the archive
[10:47] <ikonia> Sterist: what do you want to install ?
[10:47] <ledjo> sterist what what what?
[10:47] <Sterist> lol
[10:47] <ledjo> :)
[10:48] <rhin0> sterrist to install that you type gunzip filename.gz then tar -ivh filename.tar (after typing the gunzip you will see the tar file)
[10:48] <rhin0> then you will be left with a .configure file within the directory
[10:48] <rhin0> run that
[10:48] <ikonia> rhin0: slow down - taking the defaults of a configure script is not always a good idea
[10:48] <rhin0> afther configure maybe make
[10:48] <ikonia> Sterist: what is it you want to install
[10:49] <rhin0> well -- sterist always read the README file that you'll see in the extracted directory first
[10:49] <rhin0> or INSTALL file
[10:49] <Sterist> ikonia bitcoin
[10:49] <KrUpTiOn> I'm having trouble with my boot loader, I have Unbuntu 10.4 and Windows 7, Can't boot into windows. Can someone msg me to give me a little help please?
[10:49] <zhangquan> nihao
[10:49] <Sterist> rhin0 readme isn't always in english lol
[10:49] <rhin0> does bitcoin give you free money?  Oo
[10:50] <appi_uppi> hi, I'm using ubuntu 10.04. Please help in providing the command to delete the contents in pendrive from terminal
[10:50] <appi_uppi> ?
[10:50] <rhin0> i just thought it must as it was created out of nothing
[10:50] <ikonia> appi_uppi: where is it mounted ?
[10:50] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, im not seeing the problem with that :D
[10:50] <rvsjoen> whats the proper way of executing "xrdb --merge ~/.Xdefaults" on startup, .bashrc, .xinitrc, .bash_profile and the likes do not seem to work
[10:50] <rhin0> appi_uppi: you can format a pen-drive using a program called 'gparted' install that
[10:50] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, you should get a menu when you start the computer offering linux or windows, windows will be at the bottom of the list
[10:50] <KrUpTiOn> velofille:> If I could figure out how to use my sprint mobile account in unbuntu I wouldn't even use windows... :(
[10:50] <ikonia> Sterist: the readme is in English, as is the INSTALL files, there is also the channel #bitcoin on this network for help
[10:51] <rhin0> otherwise its just another volume appi_uppi
[10:51] <KrUpTiOn> The problem is, after I  installed unbuntu, when I click on the Windows 7 option, it won't boot into windows..
[10:51] <jiltdil> i had unchecked the volume option and there is no volume showing on screen i want to take it back but i forgot where is the option for it please help
[10:51] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, sorry i cant help, im heading to bed. Google though should be able to solve the sprint mobile thing as well as the grub
[10:51] <rhin0> do you see any messages KrUpTiOn ie.  does it try to boot into windows
[10:52] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, ahh, maybe its got the wrong partition setup  in menu.lst (check /etc/grub ?)
[10:52] <KrUpTiOn> I called sprint, they said they 'don't support' anything but Windows on their netbooks.. stupid...
[10:52] <rhin0> it won't be grub if it shows windows messages (trying to start windows) it'll be a problem with windows
[10:52] <rhin0> if windows is on the grub menu as you say
[10:52] <velofille> KrUpTiOn, its probably just drivers then initiating ppp or similar
[10:52] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, it gives me a error message then goes back to the bootloader menu
[10:52] <jiltdil> oh  i got it.
[10:52] <velofille> what error message?
[10:53] <rhin0> KrUpTiOn: the windows directory structure (volume) will be viewable (mounted) in ubuntu so you will still see your files
[10:53] <velofille> rhin0, not sure thats gonna help him boot it though
[10:53] <rhin0> well it reassures him that his files are still intact
[10:53] <velofille> true, i suppose you could always make it a VM
[10:53] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I can use the windows partition fine, but the the loader won't boot to windows.. let me try it again, so I can get the EXACT error code it gives me
[10:53] <rhin0> and he could even then get away from using a dual boot and setting up windows running within ubuntu
[10:54] <KrUpTiOn> I'll be right back...
[10:54] <velofille> im heading to bed
[10:54] <velofille> its lateish here
[10:54] <rhin0> its a windows fault KrUpTiOn
[10:54] <velofille> sorry i could not be of help
[10:54] <velofille> rhin0, lol
[10:54] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I hate windows.. if Sprint would give me my username and password for the mobile broadband, I wouldn't even use windows...
[10:54] <rhin0> ubuntu may be powerful but it can't fix windows
[10:55] <KrUpTiOn> brb...  rebooting to get the exact error...
[10:55] <ledjo> but what about samba, what files should I install apart from main one?
[10:56] <Fudge> hi anyone here using hamachi ?
[10:56] <ledjo> there are 12 of them in synaptic
[10:56] <izgoi> Привет всем!
[10:56] <izgoi> я так понел тут не одного Русского?
[10:57] <rhin0> niet izgoi
[10:57] <acicula>  ledje just installing samba will pull in anything you need
[10:57]  * Siton is away: 我很忙
[10:57] <izgoi> весело будет =)
[10:57] <shomon> hi, I was editing a text file and now it's gone all wierd. How do I find out what character set it's in, and convert it to something like utf8 again?
[10:57] <shomon> in gedit, sorry
[10:58] <ledjo> but I did that and I can't share folder properly and I can't access windows pc folder I shared
[10:58] <izgoi> Рино
[10:59] <ledjo> in ubuntu I can't set permission properly
[10:59] <shomon> !ru
[10:59] <rahin88> any suggestions for irc clients on ubuntu
[10:59] <shomon> xchat
[10:59] <izgoi> Знаю
[10:59] <shomon> chatzilla...
[10:59] <appi_uppi> rhin0, yes i have downloaded and using it now
[10:59]  * Siton is back (gone 00:02:19)
[11:00] <rhin0> will enable you to completely blank the drive appi_uppi click on the right hand drop down menu to select drive then select format from one of the menus
[11:00] <b26> morning ya'll.. can anyone recommend a good random wallpaper changer?
[11:00] <izgoi> I know it is simple with you cheerfully =)
[11:00] <b26> ie: change wallpaper from 'x' dir every 'y' mins?
[11:00] <appi_uppi> rhin0, sure, thanks a lot :-)
[11:01] <izgoi> In current turnips this chat was has solved попробывать that it for an animal
[11:01]  * Siton is away: 我很忙
[11:01] <shomon> hi, how do you find out a file's character set inubuntu?
[11:02]  * Siton is back (gone 00:00:12)
[11:02] <appi_uppi> rhin0, it says unable to find the mount point
[11:02] <rhin0> does it show the drive should be dev/sdb something
[11:02] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:02] <rhin0> you will be able to see what drive it is by the size
[11:02] <rhin0> so it looks like your drive isn't mounting?
[11:03] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:03] <appi_uppi> i can see the size
[11:03] <keithb> shomon: what about the command file filename
[11:03] <izgoi> All while
[11:03] <rhin0> have you been able to use it from the system before -- if you just need to delete the files you should be able to just delete them through nautilus (file manager)
[11:03] <shomon> file just says "html text" or something - nothing about the charset keithb
[11:03] <appi_uppi> no i 'm able to delete the file
[11:03] <shomon> "HTML document text"
[11:04] <x3__iVaN> hi all
[11:04] <shomon> and I just got enca, which says Unrecognized encoding
[11:04] <rhin0> shomon i've just googled to see and there is a command        enca -- detect and convert encoding of text files
[11:04] <rhin0> maybe its corrupt
[11:04] <shomon> ah, but for the file that isn't showing up, it says "UTF8" - I want to make it unrecognised again :)
[11:05] <appi_uppi> rhin0, pendrive is corrupted?
[11:05] <rhin0> appi
[11:05] <shomon> no, I cut and pasted an accent into it and it shows up all wierd in my web browser
[11:05] <appi_uppi> yes
[11:05] <shomon> so yeah corrupted by accents
[11:06] <rhin0> can you see the files on it -- you are unable to delete it?  -- gparted I have always used to format -- also there is an 'erase drive' facility in the command 'usb-creator-gtk' (used for writing iso disk imiages to the pen drive -- but the erase command may work if the gparted format doesn't work)
[11:06] <ledjo> exit
[11:06] <rhin0> appi_uppi:
[11:06] <ledjo> :)
[11:06] <appi_uppi> yes rhin0
[11:06] <rhin0> if you can see the files you can delete them appi_uppi
[11:07] <rhin0> no need to format it
[11:07] <rhin0> appi_uppi: was taling to shomon about corrupted stuff - not you
[11:07] <keithb> shomon: try editing with vi and removing the accented characters
[11:07] <appi_uppi> rhin0, I am not able to delete one particular folder it's like SVN2.0
[11:07] <rhin0> shomon you've corrupted your file its not a case of unrecognised encoding -- you need to repair it
[11:07] <appi_uppi> rhin0, :)
[11:08] <shomon> :) no... there are soo many... there were some already in the document, and I just cut and pasted something in...
[11:08] <shomon> okay.
[11:08] <shomon> thanks rhin0 will see...
[11:08] <rhin0> appi_uppi -- mount it from the command line (not completely sure how) -- change the permissions on the folder and zap  it
[11:08] <shomon> aah I think it was a microsoft character, sneaking in
[11:08] <rhin0> probably you can change permissions through gui also -- not sure -- but the folders permissions are stopping you from erasing it
[11:09] <KrUpTiOn> ok....  I have the error my bootloader gives me when trying to boot into windows...
[11:09] <shomon> when I copied in the phrase with the offending character, gedit asked me "I can't save in this format" and gave me a choice. I chose utf8... But maybe I should choose western european or some other one...
[11:09] <rhin0> is it the bootloader giving you the error or windows error
[11:09] <keithb> shomon: .$s/<charctercode>//g will get rid of all of one type of character
[11:10] <shomon> it's a 15 page data document :S
[11:10] <rhin0> shomon you've completely corrupted the file now if you've completely changed the encoding -- when you saved it as utf8 you obliterated whatever format it was in ...
[11:10] <shomon> aaj
[11:10] <keithb> ouch
[11:10] <rhin0> its been saved as a completely different file type shomon
[11:10] <shomon> aah... and enca or others can't convert it back then
[11:11] <KrUpTiOn> it says: try (0,0) fat16 no wublidr (line 2) try (0,1) NTFS5 no WUBILDR (line 3) try (0,2) NTFS5 error prefix not set
[11:11] <shomon> hmm, gedit should offer to save as something else when that happens :/
[11:12] <keithb> shomon: it can't as the character does not have an equivalent in non-UTF-8
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> Does anybody know what this error means when trying to  boot into Windows 7 from the bootloader:
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> Does anybody know what this error means when trying to  boot into Windows 7 from the bootloader:
[11:12] <shomon> I've replaced it now.. it was only a line of text so it was an m$ hyphen I think
[11:12] <KrUpTiOn> it says: try (0,0) fat16 no wublidr (line 2) try (0,1) NTFS5 no WUBILDR (line 3) try (0,2) NTFS5 error prefix not set
[11:13] <rhin0> kruption -- there is stuff on ubuntu forums relating to that -- I would think that it may be a corrupted volume if you're selecting the grub option from straight boot (as you must be)  -- corrupted in some way -- ask someone else -- no idea really
[11:14] <KrUpTiOn> Something else I did. when I installed Unbuntu, Windows 7 turned it's bootloader on, it had windows 7 and unbuntu listed. figured I didn't need both boot loaders, so I disabled the windows one. which was stupid of me, without figuring out which one would work...
[11:14] <raven> any tool to manage sms with huawai internet device?
[11:15] <rhin0> sounds like you need to configure grub to boot windows KrUpTiOn
[11:15] <rhin0> grub is very configurable
[11:15] <Luxe> Finished my computer - http://i.imgur.com/3rMbN.jpg
[11:15] <TrevInc> nice fractal background.
[11:15] <rhin0> that sounds more hopeful KrUpTiOn -- your copy of windows will still be intact -- grub just doesn't know what it is (& how to boot it)
[11:15] <KrUpTiOn> Yea, I dunno how to do that though. I know the /dev my windows 7 partition is on but not really sure how to do that
[11:16] <Luxe> Thanks TrevInc
[11:16] <Luxe> Fractals <3
[11:16] <KrUpTiOn> exactly! :) not sure how to tell grub how to boot into windows...
[11:16] <rhin0> you need to research grub -- see what your current settings are for the entry for windows that you see on the grub menu and check that they are the same as what the manual says they should be for booting your particular copy of windows
[11:16] <rhin0> grub is relatively simple to set up -- just a control file
[11:17] <xskydevilx> I'm getting an error message when trying to run add-apt-repository: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633545/
[11:17] <Cube``> test
[11:17] <KrUpTiOn> k..  I know how to use lilo.. I haven't used linux in about 3 years, out of touch.. I tried playin with the grub config, but no luck. guess I'll hafta research more...
[11:17] <shomon> rhin0 and keithb - I just fixed it without converting! I just had to change the charset in the meta tag in the html document...
[11:17] <Luxe> TrevInc, I'm kinda mystified you knew that was a fractal.
[11:18] <keithb> shomon: brilliant, congrats
[11:18] <TrevInc> Luxe: I've had to take a lot of math for biomedical engineering, you stumble upon these things
[11:18] <rhin0> excellent shomon -- this will teach you to make more backups just in case and not just save in a format thinking its just s save -- it actually re-formats
[11:18] <Luxe> I didn't do this in math.
[11:18] <Luxe> :3
[11:18] <shomon> :) thanks keithb - yeah it's a pretty dangerous option there rhin0
[11:18] <KrUpTiOn> Thanks for all your help! Much appreciated!
[11:20] <sunn_er> hello!
[11:20] <rhin0> hi sunn_er
[11:20] <TrevInc> Hmm... Ocala should be really nice this time of year
[11:22] <rahin88> guys I have a specific problem with my microsd card
[11:22] <rahin88> i can't format it
[11:22] <elky> is there a way to change the order of stuff in the unity dock?
[11:23] <movan2011> @elky:  I think you can move the icons that aren't grey.
[11:23] <elky> movan2011, how? i click and drag and the whole toolbar moves.
[11:24] <elky> ooh, i click and hold.
[11:24] <movan2011> @elky:  Right
[11:26] <elky> kind of a shame i can't reorganise the grey ones though
[11:27] <dkkd> what reserve space do i give for the dialog box in first screenshot here? in MB http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:27] <jpds> dkkd: Whatever, you don't even need it.
[11:28] <dkkd> jpds: thanks
[11:28] <xskydevilx> Could anyone help, here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/633545/
[11:29] <acicula> xskydevilx: when did it still work?
[11:29] <rhin0> xskydevilx: "could not find a " aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template" <-- whatever you are trying to install isn't there i think
[11:29] <rhin0> maybe you can install whatever you are trying to install some other way than using apt
[11:30] <rhin0> even as far as building (compiling it) which is actually safer
[11:30] <xskydevilx> rhin0, I was trying Chromium Daily builds
[11:30] <rhin0> I generally just install chrome through firefox no idea ... daily builds?  you want the latest latest chrome right?
[11:31] <xskydevilx> rhin0, Yes.
[11:31] <frenzz> Hello, Hello, how create 'mysql' user in the machine ?
[11:31] <rhin0> I think it's best you get the package file of whatever type (deb, rpm) onto your system and examine it
[11:31] <rhin0> frenzz sudo adduser mysql
[11:32] <acicula> xskydevilx: does apt-get still work?
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, Yes.
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, I'm using Lucid, btw.
[11:32] <acicula> xskydevilx: what command do you use that gives you this error?
[11:32] <xskydevilx> acicula, add-apt-repository
[11:32] <acicula> rhin0: installing stuff from source almost never makes it better wrt fixing problems
[11:32] <pappijo> Hey, can you tell me what is the purpose of the class IndicatorServiceManager in Unity2d?
[11:33] <acicula> xskydevilx: try adding a different repository perhaps?
[11:33] <acicula> xskydevilx: maybe it does not have a lucid repository?
[11:33] <xskydevilx> acicula, I doubt it.
[11:34] <Herpine_> asd
[11:34] <xskydevilx> acicula, Let me try ubuntu-tweak PPA
[11:34] <sayz>  /msg NickServ identify
[11:34] <xskydevilx> acicula, Same thing
[11:35] <acicula> xskydevilx: maybe this can provide some help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092
[11:36] <pappijo> Hey, can you tell me what is the purpose of the class IndicatorServiceManager in Unity2d?
[11:36] <acicula> post 6 and 7
[11:37] <_eXeCuTeR> do i need to stay online on internet in order to install ubuntu or it's not neccesary?
[11:37] <jpds> _eXeCuTeR: Not necessary.
[11:37] <acicula> _eXeCuTeR: its not required, you can install updates afterwards if you want
[11:38] <acicula> _eXeCuTeR: with a reasonably fast internet connection and disk id recommend being online though, as it will install all updates straight away
[11:38] <yugiohfan2011> I've just had Ubuntu run its fsck utility at startup, and I noticed that it ran relatively quickly compared to when I tell Windows Vista to run its CHKDSK utility. In fact, fsck appears to only take from 5 to 10 seconds to apparently check the entire file system. Now, I'm thinking that surely fsck can't check a whole file system that quickly, so I figure something must have gone wrong with fsck. Are my suspicions correct? Or is fs
[11:38] <_eXeCuTeR> ok, thanks
[11:38] <hateball> yugiohfan2011: ext4 fsck is fast
[11:38] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: ot checks the filesystems metainformation
[11:38] <TrevInc> yugiohfan2011: fsck just checks to make sure the file system is in order. by definition, it's not a full disk integrity scan
[11:39] <TrevInc> it just makes sure the file system isn't somehow messed up
[11:39] <yugiohfan2011> What would I need if I wanted a full disk integrity scan?
[11:39] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you would need to set fsck to a full scan instead of just chcking the journal
[11:40] <yugiohfan2011> And that would, say, check the disk for bad sectors?
[11:40] <cobra-the-joker> hey guys ... will next ubuntu be on unity ?
[11:40] <mrceez> new to linux/ubuntu hw can i remove an installed program?
[11:40] <xskydevilx> cobra-the-joker, Yes.
[11:40] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you need to pass -c to fsck
[11:40] <_eXeCuTeR> im trying to boot linux of my CD i just burned, and it's booting the window in which it writes: ubuntu and some dots..it lods for a long time, then goes to a terminal, tries to execute LOTS of commands and just stops booting..
[11:41] <acicula> yugiohfan2011: you can not run fsck on a mounted disk though
[11:41] <xskydevilx> acicula, I just went through the file "Ubuntu.info" and found out that every distro is listed there. Is that considered as normal?
[11:41] <_eXeCuTeR> what could be the problem? i booted linux with Nero, when choosing to burn CD image along with this iso image i downloaded
[11:41] <acicula> xskydevilx: i have no idea, ill have a look
[11:41] <xskydevilx> acicula, OK. I'll wait.
[11:42] <acicula> xskydevilx: for me it only lists my current distro
[11:42] <mrceez> new to linux/ubuntu hw can i remove an installed program?
[11:42] <xskydevilx> acicula, Can You copy/paste the file to ubuntu pastebin?
[11:42] <TrevInc> mrceez, how did you install it?
[11:42] <mrceez> i compiled it
[11:42] <acicula> xskydevilx: no use, i have a different distro
[11:42] <mrceez> libusb
[11:42] <mrceez> libusb 1.0
[11:43] <xskydevilx> acicula, I want to compare, not to copy
[11:43] <cobra-the-joker> mrceez: you just delete it .... there is no formal way to remove a compiled program
[11:43] <acicula> xskydevilx: actually i misread, it lists all distributions here as well
[11:43] <mrceez> but there was a newer version whith i also compiled afterwards
[11:43] <sweet_juliet> !it
[11:43] <yugiohfan2011> Interesting. I see Ubuntu is much more resilient than Windows after a disruptive shutdown.
[11:43] <xskydevilx> acicula, Really? That's werid.
[11:44] <bassel> hi
[11:44] <bassel> any buddy
[11:44] <acicula> xskydevilx: the file is part of the python-apt-common package
[11:44] <mrceez> i am trying to compile another program that uses libusb 1.08 as a dependancy
[11:44] <acicula> could try forcing a reinstall of that package, but not sure if your problem is even caused by that file
[11:44] <mrceez> but it only recognise the lib1.0 and not the 1.08
[11:44] <acicula> its just what came up when i googled your error
[11:45] <solayagim> hello people
[11:45] <xskydevilx> acicula, By the way, first off when I tried to run add-apt-repository it said command not found, then I installed "python-apt-properties" I belive and the problem started.
[11:45] <acicula> windows uses journalled filessytems too
[11:46] <rhin0> hi solayagim
[11:46] <acicula> xskydevilx: i see, idk you could just remove that package again and just add the repository by hand i guess?
[11:46] <xskydevilx> acicula, I could try. I doubt it'll work, though
[11:48] <khalidman> hello
[11:49] <z9> irc isnt dead... cool!
[11:49] <anakinCloudWalke> guys can some one tell me how i can iterate over a variable using shell script. That is if the variable has the follwing "some var some val" i wanna iterate over the words in the variable
[11:49] <khalidman> looking for some help guys
[11:50] <sattu94> khalidman: yes ?
[11:50] <anakinCloudWalke> sattu94: guys can some one tell me how i can iterate over a variable using shell script. That is if the variable has the follwing "some var some val" i wanna iterate over the words in the variable
[11:50] <acicula> anakinCloudWalke:  for i in $(ls); do echo "$i"; done;
[11:50] <khalidman> i used befor 11.04 but garfiphics did nto worked to me
[11:50] <khalidman> now i use ubuntu 10.04 and it works will
[11:51] <anakinCloudWalke> acicula: i wanna iterate over a single variable not over the output from ls
[11:51] <xskydevilx> Speaking of Ubuntu, I tried the Ubuntu 10.10 daily builds, and when trying to run them live, the GUI disappears and the "terminal" alike appears. Why is this happening, and what's the command to restart the GUI (or to resume it)=
[11:51] <xskydevilx> *Ubuntu 11.10
[11:51] <acicula> eh anakinCloudWalke it works similarly, check bash scripting, or awk
[11:51] <dkkd_> booted via unetbootin. i want to install it in another partition so i choosed advanced option. now when i click next it is showing some warning "root fs is not defind". how to choose dev/sda7(my preferred partition) here?
[11:51] <dkkd_> any help apprecxiatd
[11:51] <acicula> xskydevilx: its probably broken, also support for +1 in #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <xskydevilx> acicula, Awesome, thanks.
[11:52] <ikonia> dkkd_: you tell it where to put /
[11:52] <zombieSLAYER> i cant delete samba shares?
[11:52] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: you have a share on your computer you can not get rid of?
[11:52] <zombieSLAYER> yes
[11:52] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: how did you create the share?
[11:52] <DND> serv identify passw0rd
[11:53] <dkkd_> ikonia: yea i selected dev/sda7 ?
[11:53] <acicula> DND: best change your irc password now
[11:53] <DND> yes
[11:53] <DND> i know :)
[11:53] <zombieSLAYER> some from right clicking some from samba config gui
[11:53] <ikonia> dkkd_: how did you select that ?
[11:53] <acicula> DND you can use /connect to automaticaly ident
[11:53] <dohomi> hello
[11:54] <acicula> by using /connect irc.freenode.org yourpass yournick
[11:54] <dohomi> does anybody uses skype successfully on ubuntu 11.0???
[11:54] <Abhijit> dohomi, working here on lucid
[11:55] <dkkd_> ikonia: it gives a list of prepare partitions with change revert and delete buttons
[11:55] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: did you right click a directory in the filebrowser and select sharing? if so you can just untick the share option and click apply to disable the share
[11:55] <acicula> dohomi: i've used it before
[11:55] <DND> wheew
[11:55] <dohomi> sorry im very new with linux
[11:55] <DND> im using xchat on ubuntu
[11:55] <DND> :D
[11:55] <ikonia> dkkd_: yes, but that window doesn't normally allow you to set a file system to a partition
[11:55] <dohomi> and just try to switch from crap win7 to ubuntu
[11:55] <zombieSLAYER> okay i have to re-share it and then un share it and it goes away
[11:55] <dohomi> but skype is not working
[11:56] <Abhijit> dohomi, what is actually wrong?
[11:56] <acicula> zombieSLAYER: there is also a console based short hand, you can use net usershare {list/add/remove}
[11:56] <dohomi> it shows available all the time but the messages doesnt get send
[11:56] <dohomi> and for other users im offline
[11:56] <dohomi> im using ubuntu 11.04 with gnome desktop
[11:57] <dkkd_> ikonia: ok so where do you think i am going wrong? the use as option says do not use as partition.
[11:57] <dohomi> with unity i had less hassle
[11:57] <shogoot> hi people what is the command to find my devices? i cant play a dvd i got and i think it because th eplayer is directed to /devices/dvd ..... any thoughts?
[11:57] <zombieSLAYER> acicula thanks thats tits
[11:57] <ikonia> dkkd_: partition the disk, drop out of advanced mode and set the file systems up properly
[11:57] <acicula> shogoot: can you see the dvd in the filebrowser?
[11:57] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[11:57] <acicula> shogoot: can you see the files on the dvd?
[11:58] <D-F3NS> hi there, im using ubuntu 11.04 on a eee pc. Could anyone tell me how i can check if ACPI is working properly?
[11:58] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[11:58] <acicula> D-F3NS: if you press the power button does it shutdown?
[11:58] <acicula> D-F3NS: pres, dont hold
[11:58] <sayz> mrceez:
[11:58] <D-F3NS> acicula, it asks me i want to shutdown,reboot etc.
[11:58] <acicula> if it pops up the powerdown menu its working
[11:58] <sayz> from consol?
[11:58] <oetzi> hi guys I have two questions about unity interface
[11:59] <D-F3NS> "if i want..."
[11:59] <acicula> shogoot: did you install the dvd libraries?
[11:59] <acicula> !dvd
[11:59] <cafenet> hey guys i get my printer driver and installed it and even have samba installed but my printer only work fast on windows but in ubuntu i need to turn on and off my printer
[11:59] <oetzi> first how can i go to real fullscreen inside apps
[11:59] <oetzi> without this stupid unity panel on top
[12:00] <dohomi> @oetzi, switch back to classic desktop
[12:00] <dohomi> works without problems
[12:00] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am one step back now at -- prepare disk space. could i get some direction ?
[12:00] <dohomi> in unity the desktop freezes lot of times...
[12:00] <acicula> D-F3NS: if you close the lid will the laptop suspend or enter hibernate mode as well?
[12:00] <rhin0> dohomi when you log in -- click on the user and set the desktop as classic (no effects) for now -- obviously your graphics card can't handle unity/compiz
[12:00] <ikonia> dkkd_: in what way direction ?
[12:01] <rhin0> thats why your system is locking up
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: usually its either missing dvd libraries, see the links from ubottu on dvd's, that are missing, or if your dvd player needs a regional code set, this is also explained in the playingdvd wikipage
[12:01] <D-F3NS> acicula, coze im wondering, can run the system for about 5+ hours. thats not rly much. also the FN+Space key wont work( slow down the cpu)
[12:01] <oetzi> @dohomi there are no freezes on my side only this panel is really anoying
[12:01] <shogoot> acicula, i installed the package... not helping
[12:01] <D-F3NS> acicula, yes it does when i close the lid.
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: a good way to test is trying to copy the big files from the dvd to your harddrive, it probably is not working now
[12:01] <dohomi> hi thin0: im using t410 lenovo and compiz with nvidia 3100
[12:01] <shogoot> acicula, tried taht, im just gonna reboot and se iff it helps
[12:01] <dkkd_> ikonia: i mean i want help
[12:01] <dohomi> so it actually should work
[12:01] <acicula> shogoot: did you set a region code?
[12:01] <ikonia> dkkd_: with what ?
[12:01] <dohomi> but it wasnt stable for me
[12:01] <dohomi> so i switched back
[12:02] <shogoot> acicula, yes
[12:02] <acicula> D-F3NS: then acpi seems to be working
[12:02] <acicula> shogoot: hmm can you try copying the big files from the dvd then?
[12:02] <acicula> shogoot: or just start copying the entire thing
[12:02] <acicula> (not all files are css secured)
[12:02] <oetzi> and I have another question which I'm not sure it is a unity issue
[12:02] <dohomi> but can somebody give me a hint how to use skype? its not working at all over the day
[12:03] <rhin0> dohomia I have had the same trouble with nvidia --- there are propietary hardware drivers fror nvidia (available from 'hardware drivers') on the menu -- there is also support for 3d facilities that unity desktop may use. they may improve the situation
[12:03] <wols_> D-F3NS: run powertop
[12:03] <rhin0> dohimi
[12:03] <dkkd_> ikonia: there are options like== instakk them side by side and -- advanced options. (on unetbootin hypermedia boot)
[12:03] <shogoot> acicula, copying is going fine.
[12:03] <ikonia> !skype > dohomi
[12:03] <wols_> D-F3NS: ceck your cpu governor, etc
[12:03] <oetzi> I want to configure this info bubble which shows up by pidgin on state changes
[12:03] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am clueless
[12:03] <shogoot> acicula, im might done the region thing wrong, hold on :)
[12:03] <ikonia> dkkd_: have you actually read the install information ?
[12:03] <ikonia> !install | dkkd_
[12:03] <D-F3NS> wols_, cpu governor?
[12:03] <acicula> shogoot: copying failed?
[12:03] <dohomi> sorry ubotto im really slow
[12:03] <dohomi> and this chat windows flying on my 14 ''
[12:04] <oetzi> i want to move them to another position
[12:04] <dohomi> its hard to follow
[12:04] <wols_> devkhadka: the thing that governs speedstep or cool'n'quiet
[12:04] <shogoot> acicula, copying is doing good, it is working fine
[12:04] <acicula> dohomi: right click the channel and tick  hide join/part sp,etjomg
[12:04] <acicula> shogoot: ehm then your regional code should be ok i think
[12:04] <acicula> can you open the individual video files in the movie player?
[12:05] <acicula> dohomi: if you are using xchat that is
[12:05] <root> #semplice
[12:06] <spc_in_plc> Hello Guys. Is there any support for running Ubuntu OS on Android tablets?
[12:06] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: not really
[12:06] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: nothing specific
[12:07] <Dan_E> ne1 use icecat?
[12:07] <spc_in_plc> ikonia, Ubuntu announced that they're pushing for a Ubuntu Tablet back in January of this year. What happened to those plans?
[12:07] <ikonia> spc_in_plc: no idea
[12:08] <acicula> spc_in_plc: not all tablets are created equal, android tablets are almost eclusively arm based
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, do you know what region USA is? i bought a dvd from there you see
[12:08] <acicula> or all are arm even?
[12:08] <spc_in_plc> ikonia, damn it would be so useful to have one right now.
[12:08] <acicula> shogoot: you can only change your regional codes a few times
[12:08] <dkkd_> ikonia: i couldn find unetbootin help. what do i do
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, i know
[12:08] <ikonia> dkkd_: unetbootin is just another way of booting the normal installer
[12:08] <shogoot> acicula, im gonna rip this and change it back :)
[12:09] <acicula> shogoot: but idk what the region code for usa is, you have to check the dvd for the regional code it requires
[12:09] <spc_in_plc> dkkd, What are you trying to do?
[12:09] <acicula> shogoot: but were you able to copy the entire dvd to your harddrive?
[12:09] <shogoot> acicula, i did not complete the copying... i aborted
[12:10] <dkkd_> ikonia: but i am stuck in the install process after boot choosing different partition. i am not so used with partitioninmg
[12:10] <acicula> shogoot: id really test that first, if you can copy all the files then copy protection is not the problem
[12:10] <dkkd_> to*
[12:11] <ikonia> dkkd_: the instructions explain it
[12:12] <shogoot> acicula, hmmmm  http://pastebin.com/HTXr93et and my dvd is region 1..........
[12:13] <acicula> it has no code set?
[12:13] <shogoot> acicula, the default path to the dvd player is /media/dv0?
[12:13] <D-F3NS> shogoot, /media/dvX
[12:13] <acicula> shogoot: no devices are in /dev
[12:13] <acicula> so probably /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd
[12:14] <acicula> those all point to the same device btw
[12:14] <Tr3nT> Hi
[12:14] <acicula> /media/somename is created by the filebrowser when it opens the dvd
[12:16] <shogoot> now its eorking, i directed my dvd palyer to /dev/sr0 its working fine now :)
[12:16] <acicula> what are you using to play dvd's?
[12:17] <dkkd_> ikonia: i am using usb install for the first time. there is the parttion sda7 already. but when i try it gives not root file sys. what gives?
[12:18] <dohomi> my empathy broke down
[12:18] <dohomi> my problem is not install and running of skype, its simply not working
[12:18] <peri_> Hello. I have a stupid question about disc space.
[12:19] <dohomi> it shows that im available and online, but i cant receive and send mails
[12:19] <acicula> !ask
[12:20] <acicula> dohomi: when you click the applet what do you see
[12:20] <peri_> I have Natty loaded on a box with a 2TB HDD for media storage and a 1TB HDD for system and text files.
[12:21] <dohomi> i see skype running...and after a while nothing happening anymore
[12:21] <dohomi> and people see me as offline, but my skype shows online
[12:21] <peri_> The system is saying I only have 235 MB left but I have ober 1TH on one disk and 810 on the other
[12:21] <acicula> skype integrates with the notifier applet?
[12:21] <peri_> I can seem to work out what is going wrong.
[12:21] <dohomi> n@acicula
[12:22] <acicula> peri_: can you pastebin the output of df -h
[12:22] <dohomi> not sure what do you mean, the notifier on the top right?
[12:22] <acicula> just open a terminal or console, type df -h, select all, right click and copy and put it on pastebin
[12:22] <peri_> I'll try - I'm still learning.  so command would be sudo dh - h?
[12:22] <acicula> dohomi: the notifier looks like a mail icon
[12:22] <dkkd_> i need some help with unetbootin install?
[12:22] <acicula> peri_: df -h
[12:23] <acicula> dkkd_: is using the nonadvanced option and option so the installer will just setup the harddrive for you?
[12:23] <peri_> Thanks. Here is it:
[12:23] <peri_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:23] <peri_> /dev/sda2             5.6G  5.0G  254M  96% /
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  680K  1.8G   1% /dev
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  436K  1.8G   1% /dev/shm
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G  348K  1.8G   1% /var/run
[12:23] <peri_> none                  1.8G     0  1.8G   0% /var/lock
[12:23] <FloodBot1> peri_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <acicula> !pastebin | peri_
[12:23] <dohomi> no its just the skype symbol on the top right, like in windows
[12:24] <acicula> dohomi: ok, so it is not related to the notifier then, its just a problem you have with skype
[12:24] <peri_> Ok. Sorry, still earning. Apologies
[12:24] <acicula> peri_: thats ok, its a common mistake
[12:24] <acicula> peri_: you may have 1Tb of disk space on your drive, but you have only a 5.6Gb partition for ubuntu in use
[12:24] <dohomi> yes, i hadnt had the problem with unity desktop, but since gnome classic its working unstable
[12:25] <peri_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633579/
[12:25] <dkkd_> acicula: yes i want to install in other drive(partition) than where my windows is installed. i am on step 4 of install whih asks for nonadvanced and adv. how do i proceed?
[12:25] <acicula> peri_: which is why you seem to be running out of space
[12:26] <acicula> dkkd_: the nonadvanced option should resize the existing partition to make room for ubuntu, but you should really read the installation wiki page ikonia linked
[12:26] <peri_> OK. Thanks heaps acicula.
[12:26] <peri_> I am most obliged. How can I fix it?
[12:27] <acicula> peri_: you need a larger root filesystem, id make the / at least 20GB
[12:27] <peri_> Ok. Will I need to reinstall Natty?
[12:27] <acicula> peri_: you can use gparted from a livecd/stick to resize the / most likely
[12:27] <peri_> Dont mind if I have to.
[12:27] <acicula> !resize
[12:28] <acicula> peri_: though reinstalling is quicker then resizing probably
[12:28] <mac_nibblet> Can someone help me with iptables?
[12:28] <dkkd_> acicula: i just have 31 GB on existing partition. will the non advanced partition increase it? which part do i read in the install page ikonia linked?
[12:28] <dohomi> is resizing safe? i also need to do it
[12:28] <peri_> Ok. I am learning heaps talking to you. Many thanks. apologies fro the idiot questions. Is it stable to do that - or it is better to reinstall from the beginning? I don't mind doing it.
[12:28] <acicula> dkkd_: do you have an existing free partition?
[12:29] <dohomi> ill running a ssd 128 gig and the ubuntu is bit too small
[12:29] <acicula> peri_: well resizing or any disk operation always carries risks, so make backups
[12:29] <anonboo> mac_nibblet, Ask your question.
[12:29] <acicula> peri_: but its mostly just slow, reinstalling takes like 20-30minutes
[12:30] <acicula> resizing is slow i mean
[12:30] <naxa> hi! anyone know a good channel for noise reduction questions?
[12:30] <acicula> naxa: electronics or math
[12:30] <naxa> acicula: for image noise reduction?
[12:31] <naxa> acicula: well i will give it a try, thanks :)
[12:31] <acicula> eh image noise reduction?
[12:31] <dkkd_> acicula: by existing do you mean what is shown using the graphics. dev/sda1(windows) sda5 and sda6 with 78 and 105 gb? is this what you meant?
[12:32] <acicula> dkkd_: i cant tell you if those partitions are free or if you have data on there
[12:32] <naxa> acicula: yes
[12:33] <naxa> acicula: i have this http://people.inf.elte.hu/naknaat/problem.png and it drives me and my applications crazy
[12:33] <dkkd_> acicula: i know which is free. how do i install there?
[12:34] <peri_> Yup. I think I will reinstall. BTW:  I have home, boot root and swap. What sizes do you recommend for each?
[12:34] <acicula> dkkd_: you can right click the partition i think, then you set the filesystem type and the mount point. you need at least one filesystem with / and formatted as ext4. you also need a swap partition
[12:35] <Mandrew> hello i have a apple airport base station but the i macbook had to connect to it is dead and i cant remember the PW for the base station, so i wonder how i hack it to get my PW back to it?
[12:35] <Cube``> Mandrew: nice try
[12:35] <wols_> Amaranth: not ubuntu related. ask apple for tech support
[12:35] <acicula> peri_: boots a bit big , kernels take 10megs or so each and thats all that goes in there, so anything above 200mb is fine. for swap if you want to suspend to disk you want the size of your memory or twice that if you dont have much mem
[12:36] <wols_> Mandrew: ^^
[12:36] <Mandrew> my ubuntu distro feels lonely :S
[12:37] <acicula> naxa: you want to get rid of the small dots?
[12:37] <peri_> Thanks Acicula. I have 3.4 GB memory.
[12:37] <naxa> acicula: yes
[12:37] <Mandrew> wols_, my apple care has run out :( so they dont help me with it, and if i tell them that im running ubuntu now, they hang up on me ;)
[12:37] <acicula> hmm the gimp channel might be a better choice then
[12:37] <acicula> #gimp
[12:38] <dkkd_> acicula: could you link me to a page on install wiki where this info is given?
[12:38] <acicula> Mandrew: no hacking support here, even if its your old grannys wifi you are tring to fix
[12:38] <wols_> Mandrew: you don't have a ubuntu problem so please stop
[12:38] <naxa> acicula: i will try thanks!
[12:38] <Forer> Hey guys, My mother is looking around for computers and she just needs something for the standard "web browsing, youtube, email, facebook" and I was looking into new computers. I found http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638451 and wondering if I can get her to use it but I ALWAYS have driver issues with ubuntu that I have to spend hours to fix
[12:39] <acicula> dkkd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[12:39] <Mandrew> wols_, it a ubuntu problem cuz i cant connect with my ubuntu distro ;)
[12:39] <wols_> Forer: we don't do hardware support
[12:39] <acicula> Forer: #hardware
[12:39] <wols_> Mandrew: stop it already
[12:39] <Forer> Thanks
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> cuz = because
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> i = I
[12:40] <dkkd_> acicula: that was precisely what i needed. thanks a ton
[12:40] <acicula> dkkd_: glad i could point you in the right direction
[12:41] <__Beta> Someone can help me with a gnome3 issue?
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> GNOME 3 and Ubuntu?
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> I don't think that is supported yet
[12:42] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: it's not
[12:42] <__Beta> Yes, added by ppa, clean install
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> \j @gnome
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> \j #gnome
[12:43] <acicula>  other slash
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> Lovely :)
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> __Beta: try #gnome :)
[12:45] <peri_> Acicula - thanks for your help. Much appreciated. Final question. does the root partition fill up and should I purge it from time to time?
[12:46] <acicula> peri_: /var/ can accumulate data like log files over time, and its also the location where downloaded packages are stored
[12:46] <acicula> so it will increase some
[12:48] <cloudyLights> hi all, when I insert a usb disk I get the message: unable to mount
[12:48] <peri_> Ok. Thanks. Explains a lot. Thanks for your help acicula. Needless to say I learnt a lot tonight and thanks for your patience.
[12:48] <cloudyLights> a window
[12:48] <cloudyLights> why?
[12:48] <acicula> peri_: your welcome
[12:49] <acicula> cloudyLights: what kind of usb disk?
[12:49] <cloudyLights> disk on key
[12:50] <acicula> i dont understand, can you rephrase that or give me a brand/model?
[12:50] <cloudyLights> min...
[12:51] <Cube``> hmm
[12:51] <RevSpecies116> cloudyLights: What are you unable to mount?
[12:52] <cloudyLights> a usb memory stick
[12:52] <RevSpecies116> Ahh, a USB Flash stick :)
[12:52] <Cube``> RevSpecies116: lol :D
[12:52] <Cube``> mm
[12:52] <RevSpecies116> Has it worked in the past, cloudyLights? on a Windows OS?
[12:53] <cloudyLights> when I insert the usb flash stick I see this error window
[12:53] <cloudyLights> I click ok
[12:53] <Cube``> lol
[12:53] <RevSpecies116> And has that USA stick worked ever since you got it out of the wrapper?
[12:53] <RevSpecies116> USA = USB :(
[12:54] <progre55> Hi guys. I'm installing nvidia-current drivers using apt, but there's nothing under /dev/nvidia*. Any suggestions, please?
[12:54] <cloudyLights> I then do dmesg|tail and see it was identified as sdc1
[12:54] <RevSpecies116> I ask that, cloudyLights, so that we don't have to format it and delete things off the stick if we don't need to
[12:55] <acicula> progre55: should there be?
[12:55] <cloudyLights> I mount it as root
[12:55] <RevSpecies116> So it looks like you know a little Linux, cloudyLights - that is a good thing :)
[12:55] <cloudyLights> after manually mounting it , it works fine
[12:55] <cloudyLights> I am using xfce4 and gvfs
[12:56] <cloudyLights> is this a permition issue?
[12:56] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, so, cloudyLights - just to confirm the stick is not automatically mounting?
[12:56] <acicula> progre55: also what nvidia card do you have, and is this a headless installation ?
[12:56] <cloudyLights> policykit?
[12:56] <progre55> acicula: I'm not sure, but I cant get python-pyopencl working. I get "clGetPlatformIDs failed: invalid/unknown error code"
[12:56] <cloudyLights> using ubuntu 11.04
[12:56] <progre55> acicula: gtx 275
[12:56] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't come with xfce though :(
[12:57] <cloudyLights> I installed it
[12:57] <acicula> progre55: is X running?
[12:57] <RevSpecies116> What happens if you use Ubuntu proper?
[12:57] <Cube``> acicula: i think so
[12:57] <progre55> acicula: umm.. no x, as it's on a server =)
[12:58] <sudokill> cloudyLights, i think theres one called xubuntu
[12:58] <progre55> acicula: wanted to set it up for bitcoin mining
[12:58] <acicula> lsmod | grep nvidia does tht show anything?
[12:58] <RevSpecies116> OK, what happens cloudyLights is you load Ubuntu proper with no xfce?
[12:58] <acicula> Cube``: what?
[12:58] <cloudyLights> winodws manager issues in gnome
[12:59] <cloudyLights> missning boards
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> If you choose 'Ubuntu Classic' at the login screen, for example? does the drive auto mount in Ubuntu proper
[12:59] <progre55> acicula: thats what I get from lsmod "nvidia              10220950  0"
[12:59] <acicula> progre55: i guess it is loaded
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> Missing boards, cloudyLights? Like no GNOME panels?
[12:59] <RevSpecies116> You may need to load Ubuntu Classic, cloudyLights
[13:00] <cloudyLights> I use startxfce4 -- :1 from shell
[13:01] <cloudyLights> which works
[13:01] <cloudyLights> its just that gvfs issue
[13:01] <RevSpecies116> If could be an xfce issue, cloudyLights - that may not be supportedf here, I don't know :(
[13:02] <acicula> progre55: not really sure why your opencl tool fails, but it seems you have the driver module loaded
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> OK, cloudyLights - just so I know... Has that USB disk been formatted so a windows machine can see it too [FAT, FAT32, NTFS]?
[13:02] <cloudyLights> YES
[13:02] <progre55> acicula: I probably need to export the LD_LIBRARY_PATH var
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> OK :) And just to confirm, cloudyLights, can a windows machine see it OK?
[13:02] <glontu> hi
[13:03] <cloudyLights> yes
[13:03] <RevSpecies116> OK, and do you have an Ubuntu liveCD handy, cloudyLights?
[13:03] <acicula> progre55: are you running the script as root?
[13:04] <progre55> acicula: not really.. let me try running it as root..
[13:04] <jvargas> how can I get information about a package I am about to install from console?
[13:04] <cloudyLights> yes
[13:04] <cloudyLights> but min
[13:04] <jvargas> I'd like to see version number and description before perform 'install'
[13:04] <cloudyLights> I will be back
[13:04] <acicula> jvargas: apt-cache show
[13:05] <glontu> does anyone know if the ubuntu kernel will support multipath routes by default ?
[13:05] <acicula> jvargas: or apt-cache in general for querying metainformation
[13:05] <jvargas> acicula: thank you so much, will give it a try.
[13:05] <RevSpecies116> I apologise if it sounds like I am stepping through a script, cloudyLights - but I just don't want to give you wrong instructions
[13:05] <acicula> glontu: multipath as in what protocol?
[13:05] <stix> Hi guys. Can I apt-get downgrade my firefox to 3.6.x?
[13:05] <glontu> using ip route
[13:05] <glontu> instead of adding just one default route in there
[13:06] <rhin0> stix can't you just uninstall it and install 3.6.x?
[13:06] <wols_> stix: you can try, but it's unsupported
[13:06] <RevSpecies116> But I would say my next step, cloudyLights, would be to load the computer with the LiveCD, and see if the USB disk mounts from there automatically
[13:06] <glontu> add one with 2 gateways
[13:06] <rhin0> never heard  of a "downgrade" stix
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[13:06] <RevSpecies116> And if it does, cloudyLights, the problem is with XFCE and not with your disk
[13:06] <stix> rhin0, well other package managers support downgrade
[13:06] <cloudyLights> ok
[13:06] <cloudyLights> got it
[13:07] <sipior> glontu: you can add as many routes as you like. multiple default routes are possible, but slightly complicated to set up.
[13:07] <acicula> glontu: that does not work
[13:07] <RevSpecies116> :) Best of luck, cloudyLights
[13:07] <glontu> acicula: why not?
[13:07] <glontu> i am trying to follow this: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[13:07] <glontu> down there where they say load balancing
[13:08] <glontu> that is the kind of multipath route i want to add
[13:08] <glontu> no bgp or stuff like that
[13:08] <PythonSnake> Hi all
[13:08] <acicula> glontu: you are using two distinct ip addresses and balancing outbound connections between the two
[13:09] <glontu> acicula: yes
[13:09] <acicula> you can do that just fine now?
[13:09] <dwossjs> hi, i read somewhere that we can use procfs to connect to another host treating the connection as a file, any pointers on this?
[13:09] <glontu> no
[13:09] <glontu> i can only ping my gateway
[13:09] <RevSpecies116> stix: You may be able to purge a repo where Firefox was, and uninstall Firefox X.XX and install firefox 3.XX
[13:09] <glontu> but can't go through my gateway
[13:09] <antodaniel> how to add xchat-irc in top right corner panel in ubuntu-11.04 ?
[13:09] <progre55> acicula: even using root I get "pyopencl.LogicError: clGetPlatformIDs failed: invalid/unknown error code"
[13:09] <glontu> pinging google for example
[13:10] <RevSpecies116> stix: What Ubuntu are you running? What FF are you running? What repo did you get your FF from?
[13:10] <acicula> progre55: dunno then, try the nvidia cude/opencl sdk and compile the samples
[13:10] <acicula> glontu: you cant just route, you will need to apply nat
[13:10] <glontu> acicula: i will deal with nat later
[13:10] <progre55> acicula: thanks man, appreciate
[13:10] <PythonSnake> How to install GNOME 3 ? I'm actually on Unity. Thanks
[13:10] <glontu> for now i can'tuse internet on the box itself
[13:10] <stix> RevSpecies116, I am running Ubuntu 11.04 and FF was auto-upgraded to 5 via the default repos
[13:11] <htmlinprogress> hi
[13:11] <glontu> the box itself can't go through it's own gateway ( the isp )
[13:11] <DMKitsch> hi
[13:11] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: We can help as long as you realise if you gave GNOME3 issues, you will get no further supprt :(
[13:11] <htmlinprogress> how do i stream over my network
[13:11] <DMKitsch> i need help with user permissions actually
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> stix: i AM SO SORRY - YOU MAY BE STUCK WITH THE LATEST ff IF IT IS FROM THE OFFICIAL REPO :(
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> I am also sorry I just shouted
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> :(
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> Silly Caps-Lock key
[13:12] <DMKitsch> lol
[13:12] <DMKitsch> i have just installed vsftpd
[13:12] <sipior> RevSpecies116: consider remapping it to Control; vastly more useful :-)
[13:12] <DMKitsch> i made a group ftp-users
[13:13] <RevSpecies116> sipior: I may just have to do that :)
[13:13] <DMKitsch> and an account "dave"
[13:13] <DMKitsch> i mapped it to /home/website
[13:13] <DMKitsch> but i need to set write access to my folder
[13:13] <acicula> glontu: eh remove all routes and just enable one interface with one default route and see if your internet works again?
[13:13] <DMKitsch> do you have any ideas?
[13:14] <PythonSnake> Does File Manager have less functions than Desktops environment ?
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[13:14] <acicula> DMKitsch: user dave will need write access to /home/website
[13:14] <DMKitsch> yes
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> Just remember PythonSnake That GNOME3 is not currently supported by Canonical or this room [yet]
[13:15] <DMKitsch> any takers?
[13:15] <RevSpecies116> And once you go to GNOME 3, it is VERY HARD to return to default 11.04 without a re-install
[13:15] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: Thanks a lot.
[13:16] <htmlinprogress> DMKitsch,  for what ?
[13:16] <DMKitsch> the question i posted above
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> I wish you well, PythonSnake - and report back your success :)
[13:16] <DMKitsch> i need to give write permissions to a user
[13:17] <htmlinprogress> DMKitsch,  i didnt gtet to see it , i just got here
[13:17] <PythonSnake> What is Gnome 3 Shell ?
[13:17] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:17] <acicula> DMKitsch: make dave the owner of the website directoru
[13:17] <acicula> chown will do that
[13:18] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> PythonSnake: the next gnome DE
[13:19] <acicula> RevSpecies116: actually with ppa-purge its been remarkebly easy for me to switch back and forth
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> GNOME Shell is the GNOME Fountations version of Unity
[13:19] <acicula> RevSpecies116: though you have to jump through some hoops here and there
[13:19] <htmlinprogress> how do i stream a movie from my house   to  my moms house ?
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> acicula: You mean from GNOME 3 to default Ubuntu 11.04
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> ?
[13:20] <iceroot> htmlinprogress: you can do it with vlc
[13:20] <acicula> RevSpecies116: yes
[13:20] <antodaniel_> how to xchat in panel. It disappears when Minimised to tray
[13:20] <DMKitsch> there is too much is occuring on here, i guess it isn't supprising so i am off
[13:20] <PythonSnake> Is GNOME 3 already installed on 11.04?
[13:20] <antodaniel_> how to add xchat in panel. It disappears when Minimised to tray
[13:20] <DMKitsch> you really should stop the joining and leaving thing
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> Have we got the purge commands handy acicula - just incase we have a few people wanting to rid themselves of GNOME3?
[13:21] <ikonia> PythonSnake: gnome 3 is not supported by the ubuntu project
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> DMKitsch: If you use ChatZilla for FireFox, you don't get the joining and leaving things
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> I really want them, but Chatzilla removes them automattically
[13:21] <acicula> RevSpecies116: sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3/
[13:22] <RevSpecies116> Thanks acicula :)
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> PythonSnake: no
[13:22] <htmlinprogress> iceroot, i have tried for a very long while time (2-6 weeks) and tried others ways,,,,  im so stuck that i dont know what to do
[13:22] <bobbyd> hi
[13:22] <acicula> RevSpecies116: its a oneshot deal though, if you fail you have to readd the repo first to be able to purge it. It basically purges the gnome3 packages and pulls the old packages back in, so its not exactly bulletproof
[13:23] <RevSpecies116> I thought not, acicula - but all moot by 11.10 :)
[13:23] <bobbyd> I seem to have stopped rsyslod from writing system logs. It's running, but I get no output. I think I misconfigured the rsyslog.conf file. How would I get the original file back (no I didn't back it up, sorry :( )
[13:23] <htmlinprogress> bobbyd,  hi
[13:23] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: - if you really want GNOME3, I believe it will be default in October with ubuntu
[13:23] <bobbyd> can I reconfigure the package and get it to overwrite the conf file?
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> 4 months away, PythonSnake - I'm sure you have patience for then
[13:24] <ikonia> it will not contain gnome shell
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> Unity is Ubuntu's future
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> I love Unity
[13:24] <iceroot> htmlinprogress: http://wiki.videolan.org/Streaming
[13:24] <RevSpecies116> Although my laptop may love Unity2D better ;)
[13:25] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: Do you know a good professional Desktop Environment/ File Manager for programming Python ?
[13:25] <ikonia> PythonSnake: desktop and file manager has nothing to do with programming python
[13:26] <antro> rsync only prints "sending incremental file list" but doesn't update the files ... How to solve this ??
[13:26] <DMKitsch> hi again
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> I am sorry, PythonSnake I do not :( The only IDE for programming I know is Eclipse [for Android]
[13:27] <DMKitsch> guys i only want one user being able to access my FTP accounts, i don't know how to change it!
[13:27] <DMKitsch> any helpers
[13:27] <DMKitsch> i got a security risk at the moment
[13:27] <iceroot> DMKitsch: dont put other users in the ftp-group
[13:27] <ikonia> DMKitsch: you'll need to set it to use virtual user, define a virtual users list with one users
[13:27] <ikonia> DMKitsch: or use the "deny" list option
[13:27] <bobbyd> ok I fixed it, the conf file was corrupted
[13:27] <DMKitsch> hmm
[13:27] <RevSpecies116> Is that OS side, or server side settings, DMKitsch
[13:28] <DMKitsch> it seems to use all users in all groups
[13:28] <DMKitsch> not sure
[13:28] <sipior> DMKitsch: if you really want only one user accessing this data, surely it's better to simply transfer it via scp/ssh/sshfs?
[13:28] <DMKitsch> deny list?
[13:29] <DMKitsch> i got an anonymous user which i need to set up too
[13:29] <DMKitsch> for file transfer
[13:29] <hnwy>  #linux110
[13:29] <RevSpecies116> anonymous upload or anonymous download?
[13:30] <DMKitsch> download
[13:30] <RevSpecies116> OK - so to confirm: Only 1 person can every upload, but anyone should be able to download, DMKitsch
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> every = ever
[13:31] <DMKitsch> yes, revspecies116
[13:31] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291 -Take a look at the poll
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:31] <PythonSnake> GNOME 3 has 4x more votes
[13:31] <RevSpecies116> I'm not your man to help with that one, sorry, DMKitsch - but I am sure you can get some help with that one
[13:32] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 你好
[13:32] <DMKitsch> thanks for the help
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> I've never done it myslef, but I may need some pointers for the furture, DMKitsch
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 最近怎么样
[13:32] <lhjlxa> 是，我很好
[13:32] <bazhang> !cn | lhjlxa
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> !cn | lhjlxa
[13:33] <antro> rsync only prints "sending incremental file list" but doesn't update the files ... How to solve this ??
[13:33] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: Shuutleworth has the last say - polls mean 'nothing' here :( :) But I really do prefer Unity to GNOME Shell
[13:34] <rhin0> nobody appears to like unity
[13:34] <PythonSnake> Why ?
[13:34] <RevSpecies116> GNOME Shell has speed regressions too :)
[13:34] <rhin0> I had to get out when I couldn't even start a terminal
[13:34] <PythonSnake> GNOME 3 is more responsive
[13:34] <arucreid> did you have any problems with fans in notebooks, after installing ubuntu with unity?
[13:35] <PythonSnake> no
[13:35] <rhin0> i'll say this : what I saw of unity it didn't even look finished -- scrappy graphically
[13:36] <dr_Willis> ita w
[13:36] <rhin0> also -- the only problams I've seen with ubuntu -- gpu hangups have been caused by unity
[13:36] <rhin0> im close to ditching 11.04
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> how tohow to change the buttons of the windows and put them in the right of the box. /
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> ?
[13:36] <AkoustikosPeripa> ubuntu 11.04
[13:36] <dr_Willis> its a work in progress.
[13:36] <phux> rhin0 is right, they should have waited till october
[13:36] <rhin0> i'll probably sort it but don't need this ie: unity integration
[13:36] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1
[13:36] <dr_Willis> !classic
[13:37] <RevSpecies116> GNOME3 and Mutter are categorically shown to be scientifically more 'slow' than Compiz/Unity :)
[13:38] <PythonSnake> Will GNOME 3 causes me drivers problems or any kind of problems that I don't have on Unity ?
[13:38] <dr_Willis> gnome3 is also a work in progress. :)
[13:38] <ikonia> PythonSnake: no
[13:38] <RevSpecies116> Unknown, PythonSnake - could be better, could be worse... I would say it depends on the kernal, not the OS
[13:38] <dr_Willis> drivers are kernel/x related. not really unity specific
[13:39] <htmlinprogress> hi
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> Hello htmlinprogress :) Can we help?
[13:40] <PythonSnake> RevSpecies116: By solving his problems if he has any :).
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> AkoustikosPeripa: how tohow to change the buttons of the windows and put them in the right of the box?    I would help, BUT YOU LEFT
[13:41] <dr_Willis> !controls
[13:41] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: if he's left, there is no need to mention it
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> PythonSnake: Thats if he fills us in with his issue ;)
[13:41] <DMKitsch> .
[13:42] <ikonia> RevSpecies116: you don't have to pounce on everyone - not everyone needs help
[13:42] <RevSpecies116> ikonia: It is so sad when they hit and RUN :( he just dropped the question and RAN awy :(
[13:42] <RevSpecies116> Very sad :(
[13:43] <PythonSnake> How to remove Pidgin ?
[13:43] <ikonia> PythonSnake: why do you want to remove it ?
[13:43] <RevSpecies116> at least 3 different ways, PythonSnake
[13:43] <dr_Willis> via the package manager tools PythonSnake
[13:43] <PythonSnake> Because I already have Emphaty.
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> Apt-get/aptitude; Synaptic; Ubuntu software Center
[13:44] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116, yes :) im at my wits end ... RRRR    !!!       so i would like to  a video for my gf and stream it  from one comuputer to to a pc (ubuntu to windows and in in backwards )    through a lan and  through  the internet , like a vlc server
[13:44] <dr_Willis> but why bother.
[13:44] <ikonia> PythonSnake: remove it via the package manager then
[13:44] <ikonia> dr_Willis: quite
[13:44] <PythonSnake> Items cannot be installed or remived until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it ? Help
[13:44] <ikonia> PythonSnake: yes you want to repair it
[13:44] <dr_Willis> say yes....
[13:45] <dr_Willis> logical...
[13:45] <PythonSnake> Pidgin is still there
[13:45] <ikonia> PythonSnake: now remove it
[13:45] <DMKitsch> please stop the log in and log outs
[13:45] <dr_Willis> DMKitsch:  huh?
[13:45] <RevSpecies116> htmlinprogress: That should be relatively easy :) Can both computers see each other over the net? Have both computers got VLC installed?
[13:45] <DMKitsch> there are more messages telling me somebody has logged in than comments
[13:46] <rhin0> synaptic package manager - search for pidgin - right click on it -- click 'completely remove' and then 'apply' pythonsnake
[13:46] <RevSpecies116> DMKitsch: Change IRC programmes
[13:46] <dr_Willis> DMKitsch:  hide parts anf joins on your client
[13:46] <htmlinprogress> lol  or you can kick them out lol  who ever they are  DMKitsch ,
[13:46] <RevSpecies116> Use Chatzilla, DMKitsch - I get NO login/out messages
[13:46] <DMKitsch> ok
[13:46] <dr_Willis> its not login
[13:46] <ikonia> it's web chat, he can't
[13:46] <dr_Willis> .. its joining..
[13:46] <RevSpecies116> Oh, webIRC :(
[13:46] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  i dont know , and yes
[13:47] <RevSpecies116> OK, what I mean, htmlinprogress, is can you MSN/Pidgin/Chat with your GF over the internet?
[13:47] <RevSpecies116> :)
[13:48] <DMKitsch> bbl
[13:49] <invlpg[1]> how can i make pidgin appear on the top panel (skype is there but pidgin is not)
[13:49] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  i dont understand what you mean, and she dont have msn or pidigin
[13:49] <PythonSnake> rhin0: It won't let me apply.
[13:49] <RevSpecies116> what does she have where you chat together, htmlinprogress ?
[13:49] <Lukosanthropos> htmlinprogress look in the little envelope icon
[13:49] <htmlinprogress> "fb"
[13:50] <antodaniel> adding xchat in panel issue got resolved
[13:50] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh :) FaceBook chat :)
[13:50] <htmlinprogress> facebook
[13:50] <rhin0> you click on apply after the box for the package pidgin is unclicked PythonSnake -- after you have right clicked on the line 'pidgin' and clicked on 'remove package completely'
[13:50] <RevSpecies116> Still no issues :) So, htmlinprogress - if the webcam/video/audio you want to stream on her computer, or yours?
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> If it is webcam - that is easy, and there are many programmes both windows and linux to help you
[13:52] <htmlinprogress> its on the to do list , :)  but later down the road, i just what to steam movies i own  at home to her pc
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> OK, you have the movies you want to stream, and she wants to watch them: OKies :)
[13:53] <swim_> hey, i have installed an ldxe interface to run on my ubuntu 10.10, for some reason when i log into it, it shows no network manager of any kind.  does anybody know what the deal is with this??????
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> Both of you need VLC - it works on Ununtu and Windows
[13:54] <RevSpecies116> Ununtu = Ubuntu
[13:54] <Murat> ,
[13:54] <PythonSnake> rhin0: Thank you
[13:54] <rhin0> yw. PythonSnake
[13:54] <satanic> <--- command line specialist online now ladies and gentlemen. Questions will be answered on a first-come-first-served basis.
[13:54] <htmlinprogress> do i need ubuntu on both computers ?
[13:54] <RevSpecies116> You, htmlinprogress, need to 'Stream' it, and your GF needs to 'Open Network Stream'
[13:54] <Stava> Is there any program that would let me view all fonts installed on the system with my own custom text?
[13:54] <RevSpecies116> Nope - if you have ubuntu, and she has Windows/Mac, it will still work
[13:55] <qin> htmlinprogress: Is your buddy on same lan?
[13:55] <DMKitsch_> hi again
[13:55] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  can you make video  ?
[13:55] <RevSpecies116> Yep, you can make video, htmlinprogress
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> Video/webcam/audio/etc
[13:56] <RevSpecies116> But the key part is that YOU have to 'stream' it and she has to 'Open Network Stream' it, in VLC
[13:57] <Abhijit> stamina, fontmatrix
[13:57] <Abhijit> Stava, fontmatrix
[13:57] <DMKitsch_> how do i turn log-off's in quassel IRC
[13:57] <htmlinprogress> qin, yes , and later  i want to save money  so i want to  make my own "nextflex" type thing  for my house and when im on the go with my evo 4g
[13:57] <RevSpecies116> Unknown to me, DMKitsch_
[13:58] <DMKitsch_> ok
[13:58] <DMKitsch_> how do i select peoples name like that?
[13:58] <RevSpecies116> start typing their name, and then press TAB
[13:58] <RevSpecies116> It should autofill the name in :)
[13:58] <qin> DMKitsch_: dmk<TAB>
[13:58] <invlpg[1]> how can i see all the current programs running on my ubuntu without needing to wait for the panel on the right to show up?
[13:58] <bazhang> DMKitsch_, ask in #quassel
[13:58] <DMKitsch_> qin: ..
[13:59] <DMKitsch_> :(
[13:59] <DMKitsch_> ask qin
[13:59] <DMKitsch_> hmm
[13:59] <qin> invlpg[1]: In terminal, or console: ps aux, or top, or htop
[14:00] <rhin0> invlpg[1]: I always just type "ps -ef" in a terminal to see the last processes run -- "top" to see the processes using the most cpu
[14:00] <qin> DMKitsch_: Ask me.
[14:00] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,   can you please make a  how to video,  ,,, i how you can make  a good one , i have tried wating like 5 to 20 videos and its a no go ,
[14:00] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  i have watched *
[14:00] <DMKitsch_> Ask qin
[14:00] <arnaud__> chocolate rain
[14:00] <invlpg[1]> qin, i didn't mean that actually - i meant, like gnome (right now im on unity), where you could see a task list of running programs on the panel
[14:01] <gener1c> i just updated to a new kern and i was looking in the /boot/grub/ for menu.lst and its not there O.O
[14:01] <DMKitsch_> oh well
[14:01] <qin> invlpg[1]: I am Unity noob, and it will stay that way.
[14:01] <Abhijit> !grub2 | gener1c new grub has new files to edit
[14:02] <gener1c> 10x
[14:02] <qin> !grub2 | gener1c
[14:02] <invlpg[1]> qin, why? :)
[14:02] <rhin0> are there logs available for this channel?
[14:02] <qin> Abhijit: ups
[14:02] <RevSpecies116> htmlinprogress: I am not a graphics designer/video editor, but if you just have an .avi file to stream [for simplicity] that can be acheieved
[14:02] <bazhang> !1984 | rhin0
[14:02] <RevSpecies116> But I cannot 'make' you a video ;)
[14:03] <rhin0> ty bazhang
[14:03] <qin> invlpg[1]: LTS versions only, too many machines to bother.
[14:03] <iceroot> bazhang: very nice trigger :)
[14:03] <bazhang> iceroot, heh yeah
[14:03] <iceroot> bazhang: and a great book (sorry for ot)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> !lubuntu
[14:03] <Abhijit> qin, yes?
[14:03] <bazhang> true again
[14:03] <invlpg[1]> qin, aha. ok
[14:03] <zikalify> is there a way you can buy just one ubuntu cd with actual cover and printed cd?
[14:03] <RevSpecies116> yes, zikalify
[14:04] <zikalify> how?
[14:04] <rhin0> zikalify I think that ubuntu will send you those for free
[14:04] <dr_Willis> shipit is gone
[14:04] <qin> Abhijit: Disregard, same ! to ubottu
[14:04] <RevSpecies116> rhin0: That shipit service finished with 9.10
[14:04] <Abhijit> he is askng to 'buye'
[14:04] <Abhijit> buy*
[14:04] <dr_Willis> ubuntu store perhaps
[14:04] <RevSpecies116> rhin0: That shipit service finished with 9.10But you can buy it from the ubuntu store
[14:04] <R0d4Holy> Can «root» open the home directory of a user, if the user is cifred?
[14:04] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  then keep it a raw footage , its fine with me ,, i just want to study  it so i know how to do it right
[14:04] <zikalify> ubuntu store only do them in packs of 5 and above :(
[14:04] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: root can open everything
[14:05] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: expect encrypted drives
[14:05] <RevSpecies116> zikalify: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[14:05] <Abhijit> zikalify, there are other websites too which sells linux cds
[14:05] <dr_Willis> zikalify:  try cheapbytes.com
[14:05] <zikalify> ty
[14:05] <rhin0> they're very smooth -- ubuntu gift disks
[14:06] <R0d4Holy> There is a way for desencrypt encrypted homes directories If I have the password and the password for crypt?
[14:06] <RevSpecies116> htmlinprogress: is that in AVI/WMV/FLV/something else format?
[14:06] <htmlinprogress> avi format
[14:06] <RevSpecies116> OKies - then doable, htmlinprogress
[14:06] <htmlinprogress> can i do iso s ?
[14:07] <RevSpecies116> You have to install and open VLC in 'stream' mode
[14:07] <dr_Willis> avi is a cotainer. the codec is the imporntant bit
[14:07] <R0d4Holy> iceroot, There is a way for desencrypt encrypted homes directories If I have the password and the password for crypt?
[14:07] <RevSpecies116> And the other party has to open VLC [for mac/windows] in 'Open Network Stream'
[14:07] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: you only need the password for the crypt
[14:07] <dr_Willis> vlc can play isos
[14:07] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: because of that, never give your password away
[14:07] <bluewulf> realistic dreams are too realistic
[14:07] <R0d4Holy> iceroot: I wanna do it from another user and use the terminal.
[14:08] <bluewulf> and horribly timed.
[14:08] <unclemantis_home> I am getting this error when running a cronjob. /usr/bin/env: ruby: Not a directory
[14:08] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: no problem if you have the crypt-password
[14:08] <unclemantis_home> little help here, thanks
[14:08] <R0d4Holy> I have it.
[14:08] <iceroot> unclemantis_home: use the absolut path for ruby (which ruby tells you the path) or set the PATH-Variable in cron
[14:08] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  stream mode ?
[14:09] <unclemantis_home> ok
[14:09] <R0d4Holy> iceroot: I have them, how can I do it?
[14:10] <htmlinprogress> dr_Willis,  ok  thanks
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch02.html <-- htmlinprogress About half way down the page :)
[14:11] <midnightman> hi everyone!!
[14:12] <htmlinprogress> RevSpecies116,  been there
[14:12] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: ecryptfs-mount-private
[14:12] <dr_Willis> vlc has some amazing features and trcks it can do
[14:12] <midnightman> newbie to linux, let alone ubuntu here! nice to see you all! :)
[14:12] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: this should do the job, its an interactive program for mounting crypted homes
[14:13] <midnightman> hello?
[14:13] <dr_Willis> hello
[14:13] <Serafjkee> hi
[14:14] <midnightman> oh ok, thought i wasn't registered or something and nobody can see my message
[14:14] <htmlinprogress> dr_Willis,  then why cantn i do not one ?
[14:14] <PythonSnake> I can't join any IRC channel with Emphaty. Feel free to help me.
[14:14] <RevSpecies116> Bummer, htmlinprogress If those instructions don't work I'm out of ideas :(
[14:15] <Serafjkee> can somebody help me?
[14:15] <R0d4Holy> How to use sudo in a non-admin user? (I have another user with admin privileegs, I want to use it)
[14:15] <dwarder> hello, i need to update my from 1.6.6 to 1.6.12, am i need to compile it?
[14:15] <dr_Willis> play with it htmlinprogress  it has worked for me in the past
[14:15] <dwarder> my SVN
[14:15] <mysticsoul> PythonSnake: How are you trying to connect using Empathy? I'm on IRC at the moment using EMpathy.
[14:15] <a0387685> www
[14:16] <PythonSnake> Hi.
[14:16] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: not possible to use sudo with a user when he is not in the admin-group
[14:16] <PythonSnake> Nevermind, I resolved it.
[14:16] <Serafjkee> i need driver for my tp-link wn722n wi-fi adapter
[14:16] <Serafjkee> how can i get it?
[14:16] <R0d4Holy> ok, thanks iceroot, I have finished this.
[14:16] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: was it working?
[14:16] <midnightman> i was told to come here for help, I am a very newbie to linux could anyone point me to where I could get basic help? as in basic for begginer help kinda for dummies? help would be appreciated thanks
[14:16] <R0d4Holy> I am triying to fix my pc.
[14:17] <iceroot> midnightman: just ask your question here
[14:17] <no_face> midnightman, we are all here to help
[14:17] <htmlinprogress> dr_ i have been at this for 2-4 months , im get a bit tried of being in the dark , and the really good help of ho-to videos are in a differnt language
[14:17] <iceroot> R0d4Holy: what went wrong?
[14:17] <ashugeek> Hi PythonSnake
[14:17] <llutz> !manual | midnightman reading this might help for the 1st steps
[14:17] <bazhang> !wiki > midnightman
[14:17] <Serafjkee> hey
[14:17] <midnightman> ok i saw the PM
[14:18] <theholyghost> hi
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> htmlinprogress: 'how to stream using VLC' google stearcb, then click videos
[14:18] <Serafjkee> can you help me?
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> I think the first top 5 will help you
[14:18] <R0d4Holy> I only ahve the problem in one user, when I enter appear this message: error of GCOnf: fail to contact with the server of configurations (...) maybe it will be a DBUS demon bad configurate (...)
[14:18] <mysticsoul> R0d4Holy: you can try sudo login and then login as that user.
[14:18] <midnightman> thanks for it will start reading, and then already clickd on the link thanks to llutz and ubottu
[14:18] <biami> how do I access blocked websites using proxy on Ubuntu... on Windows, I used Ultrasurf.
[14:18] <no_face> have fun midnightman
[14:19] <theholyghost> Serafjkee: with what?
[14:19] <dr_Willis> htmlinprogress:  all i csn suggest is to goole for a video tutorial of how to do it. you are proberly overlookubg somthing trivial
[14:19] <midnightman> thanks no_face
[14:19] <RevSpecies116> biami: No supprt for that here - where do you live?
[14:19] <Serafjkee> i need drivers for my tp-link wn722n wi-fi adapter somebody know where i can get them?
[14:19] <dr_Willis> !wireless
[14:19] <PythonSnake> Hi ashugeek.
[14:20] <midnightman> I was looking for a something that would get me going on the terminal, kinda like how the whole command thing goes, do i have to have a basic understanding about programming to do this?
[14:20] <dr-lee> hi
[14:20] <htmlinprogress> on the destation part what do i put ?
[14:20] <biami> india... but my college banned facebook on campus wifi... i can change http to https and still access it... but that doesn't seem to work in youtube... the videos are retrieved using http it seems
[14:20] <TrevInc> midnightman: it helps
[14:20] <dr_Willis> midnightman:  dozens of bash guides online
[14:20] <TrevInc> biami: proxying is your best bet for that, then
[14:20] <R0d4Holy> Othe cuestion: I need to change nautilus options of an admin (I can enter in another admin account, but no in that admin) for make that that admin can see hidden files. Ideas?
[14:20] <PythonSnake> Will my applications close if I switch to terminal 1 ?
[14:20] <qin> PythonSnake: No.
[14:21] <biami> TrevInc, how do i use proxy??
[14:21] <no_face> midnightman, bash is easy to learn... http://linux.die.net/man/1/bash
[14:21] <RevSpecies116> We will NOT help you get around a campus ban of facebook - wait till you get home :)
[14:21] <rhin0> midnightman -- there are commands which are relatively easy -- each command you type 'man (commandname)' to get a manual page on it ... no programming experience needed -- then there are shell scripts which link commands together much like your windows batch files *some* programming experience to do that
[14:21] <dr_Willis> !proxy
[14:21] <Serafjkee> Ubuntu doesn't see this adapter
[14:21] <Pici> midnightman: Theres also #bash if you need shell help.
[14:21] <R0d4Holy> iceroot, any idea? «Othee question: I need to change nautilus options of an admin (I can enter in another admin account, but no in that admin) for make that that admin can see hidden files. Ideas?»
[14:21] <leagris> biami, proxy settings are in gnome-network-properties from preference menu
[14:22] <Pici> R0d4Holy: Everyone can see hidden files.
[14:22] <R0d4Holy> No.
[14:22] <Pici> R0d4Holy: In Nautilus all you need to do is press ctrl+h, or select it from the view menu.
[14:22] <TrevInc> biami: Tor is probably your best bet. Google will help you there. Also this information is for educational purposes only and you agree that I will not be held liable for the consequences of actions involving the implementation of this information, to include violation of your school's honor code.
[14:22] <midnightman> will do reading now, thank you for those who helped me, be back in a bit though for more questions :)
[14:22] <theholyghost> biami: what about vpn, have you tried using one?
[14:22] <TrevInc> Thank you for flying TrevAir.
[14:22] <koichirose> Hello, I'm having trouble starting mysql-server on my ubuntu 11.04. I'm willing to give sudo access to my server to solve it... some info: http://pastie.org/2128975
[14:22] <dr_Willis> R0d4Holy:  the other admin cant use the  "show hiddes"menu in the filemanager?
[14:23] <R0d4Holy> there is a shotcut? thanks! a lot!
[14:23] <rhin0> koichirose you'll probably find there is a startup shell script for your sql server in the directory /etc/init.d
[14:23] <dr_Willis> R0d4Holy:  err yes
[14:23] <DrDamnit> I ran apt-get upgrade, and accidentally closed the window. Is there a way to reconnect to it, or do I have to kill the process and start over?
[14:23] <dr_Willis> ctrl          h    show hinnen i think
[14:23] <rhin0> koichirose which runs with ./startupscriptname start (or stop)
[14:23] <koichirose> rhin0, yes, the output is the same as "service mysql status"
[14:23] <theholyghost> biami: you can even use google translate as a proxy, google anonymous surfing
[14:23] <biami> TrevInc, thanks... i don't think it matters to college much... everyone uses ultrasurf on windows... not a big deal... i was looking for something to run in ubuntu
[14:24] <biami> theholyghost, will check out
[14:24] <biami> thanks guys
[14:24] <compdoc> DrDamnit, you may need to kill it
[14:24] <theholyghost> biami: but a vpn is going to faster and no need to worry about what a proxy allows and can't handle
[14:24] <TrevInc> I support freedom of information, in every form.
[14:25] <koichirose> rhin0, ?
[14:25] <rhin0> yes koichirose
[14:25] <biami> theholyghost, will installing openVPN help?
[14:25] <koichirose> rhin0, http://pastie.org/2128975
[14:26] <theholyghost> biami: idk, but you want to connect to a vpn server as a client
[14:26] <deployment> How can I see what hard drive's are attached from terminla?
[14:26] <rhin0> maybe 'sudo service mysql start' koichirose
[14:26] <deployment> from live CD...
[14:27] <rhin0> looks like your sql isn't booting anyway koichirose
[14:27] <biami> theholyghost, i don't understand what you mean
[14:27] <dr_Willis> deployment:  sudo fdisk -l
[14:27] <biami> i am not a networking guy
[14:27] <koichirose> rhin0, it is already running (see grep) : http://pastie.org/2128975
[14:27] <rhin0> maybe try it again with sudo in front of it koichirose -- maybe it doens't have access to the file
[14:27] <koichirose> rhin0, I did. see the updated pastie
[14:28] <theholyghost> biami: i'm saying you don't want to run a vpn server for others to connect to you, you want to connect to other machines and use them as your tube to the internet
[14:28] <rhin0> well its up and running already koichirose didn't need starting -- maybe stop and start it to be sure
[14:28] <deployment> dr_willis: will this show unformatted disks as well
[14:28] <biami> theholyghost, ya... but where would i get vpn servers if i want to access it as client???
[14:28] <koichirose> rhin0, I tried many times. It has to be something else
[14:29] <theholyghost> biami: google free vpn
[14:29] <dr_Willis> deployment:  yes.. you partition disks.. format filesystems on partitions
[14:29] <theholyghost> biami: and look for one that does not require you to download software
[14:29] <rhin0> you can't get your sql shell when you type 'mysql' sql (or whatever?)  -- but it says its running koichirose
[14:29] <lewis1711> when I log into a particular account, the scroll lock button lights up, and keyboard input is different - ie pressing 'p' gives me 8. what settings control this?
[14:29] <koichirose> rhin0, exactly. weird right?
[14:30] <rhin0> yep -- I would rightaway -- reboot the machine -- then see if its turned off start it again (etc)
[14:30] <rhin0> if its not in the startup koichirose
[14:30] <koichirose> rhin0, it's something with the socket, mysql is up and running..
[14:31] <rhin0> well thats your comms -- unrelated to sql  koichirose
[14:31] <koichirose> ?
[14:31] <odigem> ку
[14:31] <rhin0> sockets = communication -- you have sockets doing something through whatever to sql right? koichirose
[14:31] <odigem> у кого 11.04?
[14:32] <bazhang> !ru | odigem
[14:32] <koichirose> rhin0, I don't think so. It's a freshly installed ubuntu 11.04. The only thing I did was "apt-get install mysql-server"
[14:33] <Pici> koichirose: I've seen this bug before, looking for a solution right now, although my browser has decided to take a nap, just a moment.
[14:33] <rhin0> have you followed the howto (setting up an sql server) koichirose -- may not be as simple as just installing the package mysql-server
[14:34] <theholyghost> !cups
[14:34] <koichirose> rhin0, I did. I had no trouble doing the same thing on ubuntu 8.04. I even tried reinstalling the OS and using 'tasksel' to install LAMP server
[14:34] <koichirose> Pici, thanks
[14:34] <unclemantis> I just put this line in my bash shell script file PATH=/home/unclemantis/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180/bin
[14:34] <rhin0> you'll have to talk to someone with experience of mysql server koichirose
[14:34] <Pici> koichirose: Is the exact error: "No such file or directory - /tmp/mysql.sock"
[14:35] <unclemantis> and now i am getting the following errors actions.sh: line 17: dirname: command not found
[14:35] <unclemantis> tions.sh: line 17: readlink: command not found
[14:35] <unclemantis> etc....
[14:35] <unclemantis> any help would be awesome
[14:36] <rhin0> test to see if the commands 'dirname' and 'readlink' actually do exist (within a terminal session) unclemantis
[14:36] <Pici> unclemantis: You normally don't want to set your path to anything, but rather append to your current path.
[14:36] <rhin0> by typing 'dirname', 'readlink'
[14:36] <unclemantis> ya they do. I am running this script from a cron
[14:36] <koichirose> Pici, no. Please see here: http://pastie.org/2128975
[14:36] <unclemantis> pici how do i APPEND?
[14:36] <theholyghost> !cron
[14:36] <cashi3r> hi
[14:36] <Pici> unclemantis: so, change that line to PATH="/home/unclemantis/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180/bin:$PATH"
[14:36] <jihel> bonjour est ce un salon francophone ?
[14:37] <Pici> !fr | jihel
[14:37] <theholyghost> ubottu: domo arigato, mister ubottu
[14:37] <jihel> merci
[14:37] <unclemantis> ok let's try that
[14:38] <unclemantis> ok well that took care of one thing. now i have to deal with something else!
[14:38]  * unclemantis kicks cron in the nuts
[14:40] <adamski35> hello ewerybody
[14:40] <theholyghost> hi
[14:40] <arucreid> hi
[14:40] <Cognition33> Hi everyone. After an upgrade of my GRUB on ubuntu server 10.10, I lost the ability to boot.
[14:41] <Cognition33> After much of googling, I learned the problem is with respect to GPT partitions using GRUB2
[14:41] <Cognition33> I am simply stuck in trying to reinstall GRUB, any ideas?
[14:41] <arucreid> Cognition33 do you check what you have in grub.cfo?
[14:41] <arucreid> gub.cfg
[14:41] <adamski35> uncle google
[14:42] <Cognition33> arucreid, I believe the installer rewritten it
[14:42] <adamski35> and grub.cfg
[14:42] <theholyghost> adamski35: uncle fester ;)
[14:42] <phux> Cognition33: http://www.supergrubdisk.org
[14:42] <Cognition33> A normal grub-install /dev/sda won't cut it
[14:42] <bibliotheque> hi, i can t get nvidia drivers work...
[14:42] <Cognition33> phux tried that already, no go
[14:42] <phux> oh ok
[14:42] <PythonSnake> Bonjour bibliotheque
[14:42] <Pici> koichirose: Do you have data in this database that you need to keep?
[14:43] <bibliotheque> hi PythonSnake
[14:43] <bibliotheque> *bonjour
[14:43] <Cognition33> rescue CD shows all partitions intact
[14:43] <koichirose> Pici, no, it's a fresh install
[14:43] <Cognition33> however, grub-install /dev/sda doesn't do anything.
[14:44] <Cognition33> I'm pretty sure it's because my drives are GPT based
[14:44] <Cognition33> but I have no idea where to go from here.
[14:44] <AI__> Cognition33: http://www.wensley.org.uk/gpt
[14:44] <bibliotheque> I can t use xbmc neither Desktop Effects cause it says
[14:44] <Pici> koichirose: Okay, lets try this then: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server-5.1 && sudo rm /var/lib/mysql && sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.1
[14:44] <bibliotheque> PythonSnake: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[14:44] <chiiiiiz> Hello!!!
[14:45] <theholyghost> hi
[14:45] <PythonSnake> Will my applications close if I go to Terminal ?
[14:45] <chiiiiiz> is it possible to modify the association file/program in command line?
[14:45] <Cognition33> AI__ I tried that, I used parted /dev/sda set 1 bios_grub on and then reinstalled grub
[14:45] <Cognition33> no go
[14:45] <koichirose> Pici, rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/mysql': Is a directory - should I do rm -rf and add a / ?
[14:45] <bibliotheque> i actually ran nviia-xconfig, as root, and the appropriate xorg.conf file has been genereated, with "nvidia" as a driver,.. but it still appears not to be using this one...
[14:45] <Pici> koichirose: yes, please. sorry.
[14:45] <unclemantis> Little help here. I am getting the errors that i mention in update_transactions.log. Thank you https://gist.github.com/da813d9464fc0d72e36f
[14:45] <Cognition33> I told you guys I did an insane amount of googling
[14:45] <chiiiiiz> the protocole "file://xxx" is open with my web browser instead of Thunar
[14:46] <theholyghost> pythonirc101: mine dont
[14:46] <rostayob> I have a laptop with a ubuntu 10.04 installed, I have added this ppa https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable but when I try to apt-get update it says "https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable"
[14:46] <AI__> Cognition33: did u try a grub-install --recheck?
[14:46] <rostayob> if I try to wget the file manually it succedes
[14:46] <Cognition33> AI__, no trying ...
[14:46] <Pici> rostayob: Your message got cut off. What does it say?  Please use a pastebin if it is more than one line.
[14:46] <koichirose> Pici, http://pastie.org/2128975
[14:47] <AI__> Cognition33: u have GPT support in kernel?
[14:47] <PythonSnake> Why am I automatically disconnected when I use Emphaty ?
[14:47] <Pici> koichirose: Can you gain interactive access to mysql now?
[14:47] <bibliotheque>     Driver         "nvidia"   is in /etx/X11/xorg-conf, but i still get the message "you do not appear to be using the nvidia dirver".... Anyone?
[14:47] <Pici> PythonSnake: Empathy has poor IRC support.
[14:47] <AI__> Cognition33: CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION must be set to y
[14:47] <Cognition33> AI__, absolutely, I installed and it worked fine for months
[14:48] <koichirose> Pici, no, same exact error
[14:48] <AI__> Cognition33: okay
[14:48] <PythonSnake> Pici: Better go to Pidgin ?
[14:48] <Cognition33> AI__, it's that god damn APT upgrade that wiped out the bootloader
[14:48] <koichirose> sudo service mysql status -> mysql start/running
[14:48] <Pici> PythonSnake: Pidgin has slightly better IRC support.  Using a dedicated IRC client is suggested.
[14:48] <rostayob> Pici: just a sec
[14:49] <Cognition33> ok, no go for grub-install --recheck
[14:49] <Cognition33> Maybe I should clarify stuff
[14:49] <AI__> Cognition33: --recheck /dev/sdX
[14:49] <AI__> Cognition33: after that update-grub
[14:49] <rostayob> Pici: http://pastebin.com/sA2T8tky
[14:49] <padhu> Pidgin works fine than empathy
[14:50] <Cognition33> I have 4 hard drives, 2 raid-1 housing / (including root)
[14:50] <AI__> Cognition33: you need the chroot-method for the recheck
[14:50] <Cognition33> AI__, chroot to what? root?
[14:51] <AI__> Cognition33: chroot to recheck you grub config and also renew the grub.cfg
[14:51] <Cognition33> AI__, I'm sorry I'm not following, chroot to what exactly?
[14:51] <Cognition33> AI__, the root directory, boot, or what?
[14:53] <AI__> Cognition33: u probably need a live-cd, then ´sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash´, ´grub-install /dev/sdX´, ´grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX´, ´grub-update´
[14:54] <Cognition33> AI__, I already have the ubuntu installer CD, I've been able to chroot to my root (which is /dev/md1 RAID 1)
[14:54] <Cognition33> /dev/md1 is sitting on top of sda2 and sdb2
[14:54] <bibliotheque> ok i am stupid. my card is an ATI. What should i install then in order to get the accelerated work?
[14:54] <Cognition33> AI__, do I need to then grub-install --recheck /dev/md1 && grub-update?
[14:56] <Pici> koichirose: I'm finding so many people having this same issue, but all with different solutions.
[14:56] <koichirose> Pici, I have been googling for two days...what's the most recent ubuntu without this upstart thing?
[14:56] <AI__> Cognition33: just try it ^^ do u get an error-message from grub-install?
[14:56] <bibliotheque> i am installing the fglrx drivers.
[14:57] <Pici> koichirose: Ranging from for some reason /etc/mysql/my.cnf is missing, to being out of disk space, to /etc/init/mysql.conf missing a space.
[14:57] <Pici> koichirose: 8.04 iirc.
[14:57] <bibliotheque> guys, will the xorg.conf be generated automagically or do I have to execute some aticonfig script?
[14:57] <Pici> koichirose: Althoug 10.04 had less upstartisms
[14:57] <koichirose> Pici, :( too old, I need php 5.3... my mysql.conf is not missing a space (just checked), I have plenty of space, my.cnf is where it should be...
[14:59] <Pici> koichirose: You could try asking in #mysql and/or #ubuntu-server as well.
[14:59] <koichirose> I will, thanks
[15:00] <Pici> koichirose: Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[15:00] <dohomi> hello again, im still having the same problem with skype...its showing that im online but for everyone im off and if i try to send messages it says: not delivered yet
[15:00] <koichirose> Pici, no problem :) thank you
[15:00] <TrevInc> have you checked the skype server heartbeat
[15:00] <dohomi> whats that?
[15:01] <Cognition33> AI__, same error, unable to identify file system in hd0,gpt1; safety check can't be performed
[15:02] <dohomi> is it possible that skype crashing because of port problems? im running apache2 with mysql
[15:02] <AI__> Cognition33: ask the official ubuntu-forum
[15:03] <Guest38816> dohomi, I think skype only uses port 80 for actual calls...not messages
[15:03] <Guest38816> although you can try to switch off apache to check: "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop"
[15:03] <dohomi> i even didnt try to call, im struggling with sending
[15:04] <mjrelvisnewton> dohomi have you enabled logging for the skype application?
[15:04] <Monotoko> as I said...try to switch off apache for a sec
[15:04] <Cognition33> AI__, is it possible to at least direct me to "where" exactly to install the boot loader? do I install it under the first partition (boot_grub) of each hard drive? and does GPT have anything to do with that?
[15:04] <saburo> hi
[15:04] <Exterminans> How can i create a second pulseaudio device? I need to be able, to use digital and analog output of my laptops soundcard simultaniously. I can use them independent if i access the alsa subdevices, but the default pulseaudio configuration forces me to choose one of the subdevices
[15:04] <SirShmoopy> hey im having a problem i was wondering what happened
[15:04] <dohomi> ill try apache
[15:04] <stefan_> Can anyone help me? My Skype does not transfer the video signal from my webcam in my HP 625. I installed webcam and cheese and cheese works fine. In Skype I can transfer my Desktop. But the Webcam signal is only white.
[15:05] <dohomi> no the apache doesnt effect
[15:05] <Monotoko> stefan_, lots of skype questions today hehe...have you tried to change the settings?
[15:06] <dohomi> mjrelvisnewton: what do you mean, where can i enable loggin?
[15:06] <SirShmoopy> everything was working fine last night, today i boot up and apt upgraded, it updated evice and two other things? now my processors are fluctuating between 10-30 and 30-100% respe3ctively
[15:06] <SirShmoopy> and everything is laggy
[15:06] <stefan_> well, no, i use normal DSL connection in Germany. No Proxys or whatever.
[15:06] <stefan_> @Monotoko, Sorry
[15:06] <Monotoko> stefan_, I meant the skype settings...you need to tell it to use your webcam
[15:07] <Monotoko> the lil skype logo in the bottom left, click that then click "options"
[15:07] <stefan_> Ah, OK, I will give it a try :D
[15:07] <jacks_> hello
[15:07] <mjrelvisnewton> dohomi try to enable logging for Skype, try to send messages, then check the logs
[15:08] <mjrelvisnewton> dohomi: sorry, try here: developer.skype.com/SkypeGarage/LogFile
[15:08] <SirShmoopy> ive also been receiving packets over time and sent 1MB at one point
[15:08] <dohomi> thx ill check that
[15:09] <AI__> Cognition33: install the bootloader for each hd in the grub-console (sudo grub). ´device (hd0) /dev/sda´ ´root (hd0,0)´ ´setup (hd0)´´device (hd0) /dev/sdb´ and so on
[15:09] <stefan_> @Monotoko: Thanks, maybe the Video receiving test PC did not accept my Webcam. Skype can grab its signal. Thanks alot.
[15:10] <piero> sra
[15:10] <AI__> Cognition33: dont rly know if it has anything to do with gpt
[15:10] <Monotoko> stefan_, you called the "Echo/Sound Testing Service"?
[15:10] <Guest15433> ok
[15:10] <saburo> Is intel HD Graphics a good Graphic card?
[15:10] <Monotoko> stefan_, it's just a sound tester, not video ;)
[15:10] <SirShmoopy> looking at system monitor the only thing that is using cpu is gnome-system-monitor, and occasionally 2% for xchat
[15:11] <AI__> Cognition33: after that just fix ur menu.lst
[15:11] <Guest15433> posso fare  una  domanda?
[15:11] <saburo> certo
[15:11] <Guest15433> grazie
[15:11] <vlt> Hello. What do I need to do to make evolution re-read the file I saved my email signature in?
[15:11] <bazhang> !it | Guest15433
[15:11] <Guest15433> sapete  se  su  ububntu  si  puo  instalare
[15:12] <Guest15433> il pauwerscrip?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !it | Guest15433
[15:14] <DragonUbuntu> hey all
[15:15] <SirShmoopy> can anyone at least help me figure out wh my proccesor?
[15:15] <dohomi> mjrelvisnewton: i got now the log file
[15:15] <dohomi> how can i open it?
[15:15] <bazhang> SirShmoopy, what does top in the terminal show
[15:16] <DragonUbuntu> i keep getting this error when trying to run update manager or package manager
[15:16] <DragonUbuntu> http://pastebin.com/NRnagu93
[15:16] <DragonUbuntu> anyone know what could be causing that?
[15:16] <mjrelvisnewton> dohomi: you should be able to use a text editor?
[15:16] <blackbeard> how to change the default user name "root" in ubuntu
[15:16] <SirShmoopy> okay there is something i havent seen before. korker/1:0
[15:17] <SirShmoopy> *kworker/1:0
[15:17] <deem> blackbeard: you can't change the name of the root user. root is always there. you cant change / :D
[15:17] <bazhang> DragonUbuntu, had that same error myself; some of the entries there are in .html for some reason
[15:17] <ania> hej
[15:17] <bazhang> !pl | ania
[15:17] <mads-> Hi. How would I make a copy of a file but with a certain string replaced by another?
[15:18] <dohomi> mjrelvisnewton:  no, the log file has no charset
[15:18] <sipior> actually, as long as the uid is 0, i believe the account can be called whatever you like. interesting experiment; wouldn't try it on a system i cared about :-)
[15:18] <DragonUbuntu> bazhang, how did you fix it? i am competely unable to get any updates right now :(
[15:18] <ania> sorry
[15:18] <SirShmoopy> and now kworker/1:1
[15:18] <epzil0n> lol, hej means hi in swedish too, stupid bot :D
[15:18] <bazhang> DragonUbuntu, I deleted them (there were a ton) then continued with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[15:19] <deem> blackbeard: im blocking dcc per default. and i don't want talking to you in a query. talk here
[15:19] <bazhang> epzil0n, not with a .pl address
[15:19] <mjrelvisnewton> oops sorry dohomi: Both log files will appear as gibberish to everyone outside of Skype. Log files do not contain any private data about Skype usage, like users instant messages etc.
[15:19] <epzil0n> bazhang: huh?
[15:19] <phux> ignore -channels #ubuntu,#vim,#archlinux * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[15:19] <epzil0n> ahh u mean the host..
[15:19] <bazhang> epzil0n, the person saying hej had a polish (.pl) address
[15:19] <phux> damn
[15:20] <epzil0n> bazhang: mm
[15:20] <dohomi> what does it mean ?
[15:20] <blackbeard> deem:no probz dude i'm new to here..thz ma first time.
[15:21] <RA_drc> hello, i am on ubuntu 11.  how can i search the contents of a file?
[15:21] <webg33k> I have a turnkey configured VM, and I'm trying to setup postfix to just relay mail...only problem is that I cannot even telnet into port 25 to test it out...I have opened TCP/25 in the firewall, but it's still denying the connection...anyone have recommendations as to how I can further troubleshoot this?
[15:21] <raven> any tool to manage sms with huaway mobile device?
[15:21] <Abhijit> RA_drc, man find
[15:21] <vlt> Hello. Is there a place wher I can ask for help on Ubuntu's email application "evolution"?
[15:21] <Abhijit> raven, wammu
[15:21] <bazhang> vlt here
[15:21] <kkulhavy> I have Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS, scanner works only under root, followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingScannerPermissions and it still doesn't work.
[15:21] <RA_drc> Abhijit: duh.  i mean, is there a GUI equivalent that comes with ubuntu?
[15:21] <DragonUbuntu> bazhang, ah ok i did a sudo apt-get update / upgrade and its working ok now. thanks :)
[15:22] <vlt> What do I need to do to make evolution re-read the file I saved my email signature in?
[15:22] <blackbeard> deem:first time here, want to learn linux adminstration,hoped that u might help
[15:22] <Abhijit> RA_drc, no idea
[15:22] <sipior> webg33k: what's the exact error message you receive?
[15:23] <obser> hi.  i'm root and i'm trying to su aUser, but i'm getting /bin/bash permission denied..  why?
[15:23] <kkulhavy> I have Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS, scanner works only under root, followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingScannerPermissions and it still doesn't work under normal user. Can u please help to make it work?
[15:23] <webg33k> sipior - could not open connection to the host, on port 25:  Connect failed
[15:23] <deem> blackbeard: if you're asking a question, maybe somebody in here would help
[15:23] <vlt> obser: Maybe that particular user has no access to /bin/bash
[15:23] <sipior> webg33k: the target host is on the local network?
[15:23] <bazhang> kkulhavy, no need to repeat so quickly
[15:23] <obser> vlt, how can i validate that?
[15:24] <vlt> obser: Look at the file permissions of /bin/bash
[15:24] <obser> i did.. it's normal
[15:24] <obser> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[15:24] <vlt> obser: And /bin itself?
[15:24] <RA_drc> Abhijit: seriously?  ubuntu 10 had a gui application built-in.  you're telling me that ubuntu 11 just decided to remove a useful function from one of its gui apps?
[15:25] <obser> vlt, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root
[15:25] <Abhijit> RA_drc, i said "no idea" that means i am not aware of any such application. i did not told there is no such application. :-)
[15:25] <vlt> obser: hmmmm ...
[15:26] <webg33k> sipior - any suggestions?
[15:26] <sipior> webg33k: i asked if the target host was on the local network; you didn't respond.
[15:27] <sipior> webg33k: so, is it?
[15:27] <Faustus2> i've changed the desktop folder in: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and this works, but some application or service is also recreating the ~/Desktop folder. Any idea how to stop this?
[15:29] <mez2261> Faustus2: maybe check if ~/Desktop is set as download location in firefox
[15:29] <phux> Faustus2: ln -s newlocation ~/Desktop
[15:29] <Faustus2> i want an empthy ~ :)
[15:29] <Faustus2> mez2261: ill check if OPERA is ;)
[15:30] <obser> vlt, any idea?
[15:30] <blackbeard> which is the best bluetooth adapter compatimble with backtrack?
[15:31] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux blackbeard
[15:31] <phux> Faustus2: why do you want to empty your home-dir
[15:31] <bazhang> !backtrack | blackbeard
[15:32] <Faustus2> phux: its a preference, i just like a clean workspace
[15:32] <webg33k> sipior - I'm sorry, i missed that.  Yes, the test system & linux system are both within the same VLAN
[15:33] <phux> Faustus2: clean != empty :)
[15:33] <sipior> webg33k: do other connections proceed normally to the test system?
[15:33] <sipior> webg33k: (ssh, http, etc.)
[15:34] <phux> imo the default structure of a fresh ubuntu install is pretty clean, just a ~/Projects is missing
[15:34] <webg33k> http & ssh work
[15:34] <sipior> webg33k: can you connect to postfix from the test system itself?
[15:34] <hchang> join #litl goyankees
[15:35] <kkulhavy> I have Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS, scanner works only under root, followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingScannerPermissions and it still doesn't work under normal user. Can u please help me to make it work?
[15:36] <Zonetti> Is there a way to make an installable ISO from my linux, so that I can install later and keep the same configuration I have now?
[15:36] <RA_drc> Abhijit: so how would you recommend i use find to search the contents of files?
[15:36] <Michiellll-lapto> why didnt the install ask me to set a pass for root?
[15:36] <Pici> !root | Michiellll-lapto
[15:36] <bazhang> !sudo | Michiellll-lapto
[15:37] <webg33k> sipior - how would I attempt that?  I only have SSH access to the box, as well as a web interface care of turnkey
[15:37] <kkulhavy>  Zonetti I can't imagine a way, the only way I can imagine is to copy /etc and maybe some other dirs on a CD-ROM
[15:37] <sipior> webg33k: can you install telnet temporarily on the test machine?
[15:37] <Kuzad> I'm on 10.10, and I've enabled my wifi drivers, yet it seems that only auto eth0 works.
[15:37] <Zonetti> kkulhavy, hm.. =/
[15:37] <sipior> webg33k: or hell, just use netcat
[15:38] <webg33k> sipior - my bad, I have telnet on there, and have tried to connect via port 25
[15:38] <webg33k> with no luck
[15:38] <stefan_> Hi guys, in Synaptic, I can save marked changes. May I edit such marked-changes-files with gedit? I seems one can simply press enter, type in a package name, press tab two times and type in "install". Can I do so or is this dangerous?
[15:38] <phux> Kuzad: does iwconfig return your wlandevice?
[15:38] <sipior> webg33k: same error? the turnkey system came with a firewall up and running?
[15:38] <Kuzad> phux, no it does not.
[15:38] <webg33k> sipior - yes
[15:39] <Kuzad> Well, it might phux, hang on.
[15:39] <Kuzad> Well, it might phux, hang on.
[15:39] <sipior> webg33k: time to turn it off, at least for now :-)
[15:39] <sipior> webg33k: or just flush the offending rule
[15:40] <AbTuX> Zonetti, Check Clonezilla , not sure  but i think this is what you are looking for
[15:40] <webg33k> sipior - working on that...figured that's where you were going :)
[15:40] <bil21al_> i want to subcribe the  empathy or telepathy bug how can i??????
[15:40] <Kuzad> Phux: http://pastebin.com/ywVpAXxy
[15:41] <AnToNio1> http://limlife.xclan.ru/
[15:41] <bazhang> AnToNio1, ?
[15:42] <phux> Kuzad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88306
[15:42] <AnToNio1> õç
[15:42] <bazhang> AnToNio1, dont paste that here
[15:43] <kkulhavy> Where else can I get help when I don't get reply to my question here?
[15:44] <Pici> kkulhavy: try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[15:44] <kkulhavy> Pici, thanks\
[15:45] <obser> hi.  i'm root and i'm trying to su aUser, but i'm getting /bin/bash permission denied..  why?
[15:45] <AnToNio1> what the hell!
[15:45] <Abhijit> RA_drc, read man find
[15:45] <phux> kkulhavy: or come back later, then eventually somebody's here to answer your question
[15:46] <AnToNio1> êàêîãî õóÿ
[15:46] <AnToNio1> ðóññêèå åñòü çäåñü
[15:46] <RA_drc> Abhijit: i did, and there is nothing there about searching the contents of files.  have you read man find?
[15:46] <bazhang> !ru | AnToNio1
[15:46] <Abhijit> RA_drc, oh sorry its grep
[15:47] <rhin0> RA_drc: if they are plain text files you can use grep to find what is in a file
[15:47] <itistimetodrink> obser: works for me:
[15:47] <itistimetodrink> cirque@alpha-notebook:/$ sudo -i
[15:47] <itistimetodrink> [sudo] password for cirque:
[15:47] <itistimetodrink> root@alpha-notebook:~# su cirque -
[15:47] <itistimetodrink> cirque@alpha-notebook:/root$
[15:47] <FloodBot1> itistimetodrink: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <rhin0> grep string filewildcard
[15:47] <ironshot> are there any alternatives to open office?
[15:48] <bazhang> ironshot, libreoffice
[15:48] <Pici> ironshot: abiword
[15:48] <th^^> google docs =P
[15:48] <kkulhavy> Pici, thanks
[15:48] <ironshot> yeah might have to go with google docs
[15:48] <AbTuX> ironshot, LiberOffice :)
[15:49] <ironshot> i will take a look at that one now
[15:49] <th^^> libreoffice is openoffice
[15:49] <th^^> :/
[15:49] <kkulhavy> Pici, how can I determine which of the HOWTOs are safe to apply to my system?
[15:49] <th^^> all office apps suck tbh :P
[15:49] <ironshot> lol the jokes on me
[15:49] <itistimetodrink> th^^: libreoffice is fork of openoffice
[15:49] <Pici> kkulhavy: Which HOWTOs?
[15:50] <th^^> itistimetodrink: that's what i meant, it's same junk :P
[15:50] <kkulhavy> Pici, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[15:50] <kkulhavy> Pici, or sometimes the howto refers to a bugreport and in the bugreport people mention various tricks to make it work
[15:50] <Pici> kkulhavy: None of them look like they would harm your system if you did them.
[15:50] <kkulhavy> But at the same time I read there were changes from Udev to HAL and things that were done before shouldn't be done anymore
[15:51] <kkulhavy> But some of the howtos or bugreports don't indicate which version it's safe to apply
[15:52] <kkulhavy> Pici, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo they say "Add saned to the group which owns your scanner device:"
[15:52] <kkulhavy> Pici, my scanner device is owned by root. But I am not sure if it's OK from security point of view to add the saned to the root group
[15:53] <obser> i'm getting permission denied on everything on my server .. why
[15:53] <obser> [/etc]# su k
[15:53] <obser> su: /bin/sh: Permission denied
[15:53] <learningc> what's the *brand* of the c/c++ compiler found in ubuntu?
[15:53] <kkulhavy> obser, what you get when you type "id"?
[15:53] <squarebracket> is there a way of disabling desktop fanciness? i like it and all, but it makes my laptop barely function if i have too much stuff open :(
[15:53] <Pici> kkulhavy: Its a bit weird, yes.
[15:53] <kkulhavy> learningc, GCC?
[15:53] <obser> kkulhavy, root .. 0
[15:53] <Pici> kkulhavy: But if it works, it shouldn't be an issue. If it doesn't work, then remove the user from the group.
[15:54] <bazhang> squarebracket, use classic then ?
[15:54] <kkulhavy> Pici, my scanner device is /dev/bus/usb/002/002 and changes every time I unplug and plug the scanner
[15:54] <obser> kkulhavy, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel)
[15:54] <obser> r
[15:54] <bazhang> !classic | squarebracket
[15:54] <kkulhavy> Pici, and the persma are rw-r--r--
[15:54] <squarebracket> bazhang, don't know how to find anything under unity :(
[15:54] <sipior> RA_drc: might be of some use to you: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/real-files-folders-search-unity-lens.html
[15:54] <bazhang> squarebracket, unity-2d is quite nice as well
[15:54] <Pici> learningc: gnu
[15:54] <kkulhavy> obser, can u give example of a thing you get permission denied when u try to do or access it?
[15:54] <squarebracket> oh shit, i didn't even know there was a different session... never even looked since i reformatted
[15:54] <squarebracket> thanks, bazhang
[15:55] <SirShmoopy> okay i think my system is behaving now, i shut down and pulled the power/battery
[15:55] <kkulhavy> Pici, it doesn't work
[15:55] <obser> kkulhavy, su k, says: su: /bin/sh: Permission denied
[15:55] <pobri19> hi guys, i've got a cron job that executes a ruby script every hour, and my script does logging. if i manually run the line in the crontab -l it works fine, but the cron doesnt appear to be ever executing as its not creating a log file nor doing what the script is supposed to do. what can i do from here to fix this? it's causing me major headaches :(
[15:55] <learningc> is gnu the best compiler?
[15:55] <RA_drc> Abhijit: rhin0: i'm using grep, but nothing is ever showing up, and grep never finishes....
[15:55] <kkulhavy> obser, k is a name of a user?
[15:55] <obser> kkulhavy, yes
[15:55] <wonka_> yes
[15:55] <Abhijit> RA_drc, i cant help.
[15:56] <rhin0> RA_drc: if its all scrolling past use grep searchstring wildcard | less
[15:56] <Pici> RA_drc: What are you typing, if you don't mind sharing.
[15:56] <kkulhavy> obser, what u get from grep ^k /etc/passwd
[15:56] <obser> kkulhavy, k:x:32008:32010::/home/k:/bin/sh
[15:56] <rhin0> if the information you wish to search for is plain text grep will work RA_drc
[15:56] <kkulhavy> obser, what u get from "ls -la /bin/sh"
[15:57] <obser> kkulhavy, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 19  2009 /bin/sh -> bash*
[15:57] <RA_drc> sipior: while that looks better than the default unity files & folders lens, it still seems like it doesn't search the contents of files
[15:57] <kkulhavy> learningc, best compiler in which reggard?
[15:57] <j3roth> Question (ubuntu 11.04) when i log into my box, I select Ubuntu Classic and it plays the log in sound. However there is no top or bottom panel and nothing loads. When I hit alt+f2 no run window comes up. I can however ctrl+alt+f2 and reboot. Ubuntu Classic No effects work. Any ideas?
[15:57] <kkulhavy> obser, can u change the /bin/sh with /bin/bash in the k's line in /etc/passwd?
[15:58] <kkulhavy> obser, maybe then it starts working?
[15:58] <captainjamie> Hello everyone. Can someone help me out? I've been following a python tutorial (trying to learn... It's complicated!) but my program won't work, it's my first attempt.
[15:58] <RA_drc> rhin0: it's not scrolling past, there is simply nothing showing up.  and it is  plaintext
[15:58] <obser> kkulhavy, no.  i manually changed it to sh .. it was bash before and wasnt working
[15:58] <Pici> captainjamie: #python is more appropriate for programming questions.
[15:58] <sipior> RA_drc: i'm fairly certain it does.
[15:58] <learningc> a compiler that gives best performance
[15:58] <captainjamie> Pici oh ok thanks
[15:58] <kkulhavy> obser, ls -la /bin/bash
[15:58] <anev> no sound works through firefox -- is there something i can do to sort this?
[15:58] <onre> hi. i have 10.04.2 LTS on a basic x86 laptop. i've come across a rather weird bug... when i choose files to upload via HTTP in Firefox, i select a certain file in the selection dialog, but end up with another file getting selected. what could this be? :)
[15:58] <obser> kkulhavy, nothing strange with bash perms..
[15:59] <kkulhavy> anev, happened to me 2 days ago, reboot fixed it
[15:59] <RA_drc> Pici: sudo grep -H -r "ARCH_MXC"
[15:59] <RA_drc> sipior: then i'll give it a shot, thanks
[15:59] <anev> kkulhavy: i've tried rebooting - no joy. this is a fresh install too
[15:59] <anev> the system sounds are working grand though
[15:59] <kkulhavy> anev, in other program sound works?
[15:59] <anev> kkulhavy: yeah
[15:59] <anev> could it be a flash problem?
[15:59] <rhin0> RA_drc: that means its not there you try for instance cat * in the directory or cat filename.* or cat filename ( | less) and you can see the file contents -- within | less you can also then type forward slash / and it will ask you what to search for so you can check -- you can then type cat filewildcard | grep searchstring
[15:59] <kkulhavy> anev, how u test sound in firefox?
[16:00] <anev> kkulhavy: youtube etc
[16:00] <kkulhavy> anev, so video runs but sound silen?
[16:00] <obser> kkulhavy, i just tired: adduser -d /home/y y -s /bin/bash, [/etc]# su y
[16:00] <obser> su: /bin/bash: Permission denied
[16:00] <obser> :S
[16:00] <johnm> learningc: if you want the performance to remain fairly reliable, and the compiled code to be portable, use gcc. Else, if you have an intel processor, icc producers a better result.
[16:00] <kkulhavy> obser, when u type /bin/bash
[16:01] <labomedia> hello
[16:01] <pobri19> hi guys, i've got a cron job that executes a ruby script every hour, and my script does logging. if i manually run the line in the crontab -l it works fine, but the cron doesnt appear to be ever executing as its not creating a log file nor doing what the script is supposed to do. what can i do from here to fix this? it's causing me major headaches :(
[16:01] <obser> kkulhavy, works ..
[16:01] <labomedia> i'm very tied that ubuntu load files in many emacs window
[16:01] <rhin0> log files for cron will go through sendmail pobri19 - it emails you with the job status
[16:01] <anev> kkulhavy: success - it's working again :)
[16:01] <anev> kkulhavy: reinstalled flash
[16:01] <kkulhavy> anev, how?\
[16:01] <kkulhavy> anev, LOL
[16:01] <j3roth> Question (ubuntu 11.04) when i log into my box, I select Ubuntu Classic and it plays the log in sound. However there is no top or bottom panel and nothing loads. When I hit alt+f2 no run window comes up. I can however ctrl+alt+f2 and reboot. Ubuntu Classic No effects work. Any ideas?
[16:01] <pobri19> rhin0: i don't get any emails or anything
[16:01] <labomedia> how to tell ubuntu to eopen file in the already opended window ?
[16:02] <pobri19> rhin0: and the log i'm referring to is being created by the script
[16:02] <kkulhavy> anev, I find this user unfriendly
[16:02] <dodino> anyone have never been able to create a USB stick with ubuntu that is bootable on a macbook with rEFIt?
[16:02] <rhin0> ah -- pobri19 -- I would set up a command to do something else on your system for instance just touch a file -- to check that cron is actually working ...
[16:02] <obser> kkulhavy, ?
[16:02] <kkulhavy> anev, a message should pop up "Sound has suddenly stopped working. Please reinstallflash to re-enable it again"
[16:02] <pobri19> rhin0: okay thanks i'll try that
[16:02] <RA_drc> rhin0: i'm not sure that the search ever finishes
[16:02] <anev> kkulhavy: got nothing like that
[16:02] <Michiellll-lapto> any ideas why i cant run cfdisk in ubuntu?
[16:03] <kkulhavy> anev, how should the user determine he has to reinstall flash?
[16:03] <kkulhavy> Why not firefox? kernel? or the whole system?
[16:03] <rhin0> RA_drc: will depend on the scale of the search -- try to narrow it down like I said -- by using wildcards and examining files using cat
[16:03] <kla> Michiellll-lapto, have you tried running it with sudo?
[16:03] <Michiellll-lapto> kla yea
[16:03] <MrNemus> so I am trying to set a static route and I keep getting SIOCADDRT: No such process
[16:03] <kkulhavy> obser, no idea, I would try strace, but I cannot say what exactly I would do with it
[16:04] <RA_drc> rhin0: -r means that it will search the files within a folder recursively?
[16:04] <kkulhavy> obser, I would have to sit at the machine and play with it with root privileges
[16:04] <rhin0> yes RA_drc
[16:04] <Michiellll-lapto> kla  FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[16:04] <pobri19> rhin0: */1 * * * * touch /home/deploy/lol.tmp
[16:04] <pobri19> rhin0: does that look good?
[16:04] <Michiellll-lapto> i didnt have this before instlling ubunutu
[16:04] <Michiellll-lapto> ubuntu*
[16:05] <rhin0> pobri19: no cron expert not sure what /1 is I thought it was hour minute day month etc whats /1
[16:05] <rhin0> its pretty simple
[16:05] <pobri19> rhin0: yeah it worked. so any idea why my script doesnt appear to be working in the cron, but if i copy and paste the command in the cron it works? lol
[16:06] <rhin0> well try to run your script manually pobri19 maybe the script is failing -- the script should run from the command line -- if it does and you have tested cron - cron should run it
[16:06] <pobri19> rhin0: yeah it works fine when i manually run it
[16:06] <kkulhavy> Michiellll-lapto, is the harddisk without errors?
[16:06] <rhin0> but cron doesn't run it -- but cron runs other commands -- no idea really now pobri19
[16:06] <kla> Michiellll-lapto, ouch tough one :( - see if the man page has any options to get around that, or maybe fdisk doesn't have the same check
[16:07] <rhin0> pobri19: does the script require the GUI (graphical user interface) -- X windows?
[16:07] <Michiellll-lapto> kkulhavy, how do i check without having to reboot?
[16:07] <pobri19> rhin0: nah, the weird thing is it also works on my development box which has the same OS.
[16:07] <rhin0> you have an obscure one there pobri19 I think
[16:07] <rhin0> it'll be something obvious though
[16:07] <pobri19> rhin0: yay, lucky me lol
[16:08] <rhin0> I would try to look at/get working cron logging -- if cron has failed it will email about it -- get cron to talk to sendmail
[16:08] <rhin0> pobri19:
[16:08] <dodino> anyone have never been able to create a USB stick with ubuntu that is bootable on a macbook with rEFIt?
[16:08] <obser> kkulhavy, http://pastebin.com/gX12ciPp
[16:08] <pobri19> rhin0: okay thanks
[16:08] <kkulhavy> Michiellll-lapto, I don't know any method how to check without reboot
[16:09] <Pici> pobri19: How are you editing your crontab?
[16:09] <Michiellll-lapto> ḱla kkulhavy http://pastebin.com/1Rjjh4ug
[16:09] <Michiellll-lapto> thats what fdisk gives me
[16:10] <invlpg[1]> how can i look at the current open windows on ubuntu unity?
[16:11] <bazhang> invlpg[1], click the workspaces icon in the panel?
[16:12] <invlpg[1]> bazhang, i mean just to have a task bar..in which i can just click to open the windows
[16:12] <pobri19> Pici: nano, but i'm creating the cron with a bash script i made. i just checked the cron log, the command is clearly being executed. but the script never generates a log file or does what it's supposed to do, so it's obviously not executing properly. but i dont understand why since i can copy and paste it and it works? i'm really confused.
[16:12] <labomedia> ubuntu launch nex emacs instance each tile i opened a new file from nautilus
[16:12] <delinquentme> so i've got a basically brand new install of windoze 7 .. and its got pshop installed on it .. now im about to drop in ubuntu .. do i need to shrink the size of the volume of the windows.. before running the ubutntu install CD?
[16:12] <labomedia> $how to change this ?
[16:13] <Pici> pobri19: crontabs don't have the same $PATH settings as normal user login shells, you might want to try echoing the $PATH to a file from the crontab and ensure that anything that you need to run is actually in there.
[16:13] <kkulhavy> Michiellll-lapto, /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda5 overlap. Not sure if this cannot cause problem.
[16:14] <labomedia> ubuntu launch new emacs instance each tile i opened a new file from nautilus or filezilla, how to changes this ?
[16:14] <kkulhavy> Michiellll-lapto, /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda3 as well
[16:14] <Michiellll-lapto> :S
[16:14] <kkulhavy> Michiellll-lapto, /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda3 as well
[16:15] <pobri19> Pici: oh that's interesting, maybe you're on to something, i'll try that now!
[16:16] <Michiellll-lapto> kkulhavy, afaik sda3 was never made, all the linux partitions were made by ubuntu install and theres one windows partition en an almost empty ntfs one
[16:17] <rhin0> labomedia -- maybe there is a way of launching emacs without a new instance - possibly you will see the emacs launch options using emacs (or whatever the emacs command is) --help
[16:17] <Michiellll-lapto> what is this extended?
[16:17] <Monotoko> hey guys...if I cancel my subscription to Ubuntu One, will it just drop the 20GB package I bought (currently using 450mb...so I'm in my free quota), or will it drop everything?
[16:17] <rhin0> and then a way of launching it with that command option (an action dependent on file association) within ubuntu labomedia
[16:18] <bazhang> Monotoko, try in #ubuntuone perhaps
[16:18] <Monotoko> bazhang, cheers
[16:18] <labomedia> rhin0: thanks, i found this :
[16:18] <invlpg[1]> how can i see the current opened windows? in order to click on them if needed..is there a task bar in ubuntu unity?
[16:18] <labomedia> http://avdi.org/devblog/2010/04/23/daemonic-emacs/
[16:19] <pobri19> Pici: it's only got /usr and /usr/bin, but i'm executing with the full paths i think, so will that even matter? here's the line my cron is supposed to be executing properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633684/
[16:19] <rhin0> so thats it labomedia -- it is an option -- now you have to make your file associations launch emacs with that option
[16:20] <deucep> If I use grep -l 'search string' *txt how can I then move the files to a directory?
[16:20] <Pici> pobri19: 'cd' is a shell built-in. You can't run that from a crontab.  If you put that in a script and then ran the script, it should work.
[16:21] <pobri19> Pici: OH! so it works on my other machine because i'm guessing the path is different on that?
[16:22] <rhin0> deucep I would (apart from writing a python script to do it) -- get that command to get a plain list of the files -- then use that
[16:22] <pobri19> Pici: thanks for your help, you're awesome :)
[16:23] <Pici> pobri19: Did that fix it?
[16:23] <rhin0> deucep: possibly pipe the file list into another command (somehow)
[16:23] <pobri19> Pici: not sure yet, i'll have to modify code, but if it doesn't you'll definitely hear from me haha :)
[16:23] <Pici> pobri19: Okay ;)
[16:23] <deucep> rhin0: Ah piping
[16:24] <rhin0> or direction not sure which deucep
[16:24] <rhin0>  deucep | > >> etc
[16:27] <deucep> i use grep -l to get a list of file names that match a certain string how would I pipe that to the move command?
[16:28] <rhin0> deucep if you have the list of file names you can easily I think use the mv command with that list
[16:29] <rhin0> deucep : hint : learn a bit of python -- stuff like that is incredibly easy with a python script (just a hint) -- bash shell scripting is far more fiddly
[16:29] <bittyx-laptop> hi, i'm having some trouble using mutt. when i do: echo "test" | mutt -s "subject" my.mail@gmail.com, i get the mail fine; however, doing: echo "test" | mutt -a /home/user/picture.jpg -s "subject" my.mail@gmail.com, displays the error: Can't stat my.mail@gmail.com: No such file or directory, my.mail@gmail.com: unable to attach file. - but the file exists in the path i entered
[16:29] <rhin0> if you need a shell script
[16:29] <deucep> rhin0: Ill give python a shot
[16:30] <bittyx-laptop> (for the record, i'm using ssmtp, and have it configured to use a gmail account created just for this purpose; as i've said, i can said mail without attachments fine)
[16:30] <deucep> rhin0: thanks for the help
[16:31] <rhin0> np deucep -- you just need to get that file list out of grep into the mv command
[16:31] <rhin0> could even do it I think on one line of bash
[16:32] <PwnusMaximus> hi guys, im trying to install 11.04 64bit on an HP Z600 but it hangs at the purple screen with the "ubutnu" logo for hours
[16:32] <PwnusMaximus> any tips?
[16:32] <edbian> PwnusMaximus: If it hangs for 5 minutes it's been too long.  Is this a CD ?
[16:32] <rhin0> PwnusMaximus: are you installing from a cd, dvd or usb key
[16:33] <RyuGuns> :)
[16:33] <RyuGuns> Python <3
[16:34] <Pici> deucep: Its rather easy to do with xargs as well.
[16:34] <pobri19> Pici: should ./home/deploy/script.sh run it properly? or do i need to do something like: bash /home/deplopy/script.sh
[16:34] <Pici> deucep: something like: grep -l stuff location | xargs -I '{}' mv '{}' destination/     (test with echo in front of mv)
[16:35] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: CD
[16:35] <Pici> pobri19: Just the path of the script is fine, you shouldn't need the . in front of that.
[16:35] <pobri19> Pici: oh :)
[16:35] <rhin0> PwnusMaximus: cds are incredibly slow -- 1st off try to cut a dvd -- prior to that run the "test cd" (test integrity) on the menu option when it boots -- if that fails your cd install won't work
[16:36] <FlimFlamMan> hello.  i have a 10.04 install and would like to ugprade to 11.04.  what is the best way?
[16:36] <johanna> C'est nul ici !
[16:36] <deucep> Pici: exactly what I was looking for
[16:36] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: ok thank you. i would try a USB stick but i cant find it in my mess of a desk
[16:36] <deucep> thanks
[16:36] <rhin0> usb keys are easiest of all to install off PwnusMaximus if you have a usb-key get the program usb-creator-gtk and just write the image to the usb key -- boot off that -- installs in minutes
[16:36] <PythonSnake> johanna: Salut
[16:37] <bazhang> !fr | johanna
[16:37] <rhin0> cds are the worst way to install these days PwnusMaximus
[16:37] <Pici> deucep: np
[16:37] <rhin0> much better dvds
[16:37] <RyuGuns> Am I the only one who likes Unity? :D
[16:37] <Tuxer> is there a way to make a windows xp bootable usb? (using ubuntu)
[16:37] <RyuGuns> ...
[16:37] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: ill keep that in mind in the future. thank you (and USB drives dont get scratches :)
[16:37] <rhin0> yep PwnusMaximus
[16:38] <siavoshkc> yes
[16:38] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: checking disk integrity now
[16:38] <rhin0> PwnusMaximus: last time I tried installing off a cd -- same scenario -- install takes hours if it gets through at all
[16:38] <siavoshkc> no
[16:39] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: i was thinking maybe it was a hardware incompatability
[16:40] <kkulhavy> Pici, thanks, with your help I found my problem is Bug #217571 which was open 3 years 2 months ago and still has status "Confirmed" and is unassigned.
[16:40] <RyuGuns> Tuxer: I don't think you can boot windows from CD :\
[16:40]  * kkulhavy now feels disappointed by Ubuntu
[16:40] <rhin0> really I would try to find that usb key PwnusMaximus
[16:41] <rostayob> is there a way to show the applications from all the workspaces in the taskbar?
[16:41] <RyuGuns> ...
[16:42] <kkulhavy> rostayob, not sure, but I would be surprised if there were one
[16:42] <RyuGuns> Taskbar?
[16:42] <PwnusMaximus> rhin0: 2 errors found on disk.... time to bust out the swiffer and fabreze because im cleaning this place till i find that key
[16:42] <rhin0> lol PwnusMaximus
[16:42] <kkulhavy> PwnusMaximus, there are magnets inside disk that can be used for fridge
[16:42] <edbian> rostayob: Right click it, -> preferences    It's a setting in there
[16:44] <kkulhavy> rostayob, now I am surprised, to stand my promise :D
[16:44] <rostayob> edbian: you are very right
[16:44] <rostayob> thanks
[16:44] <edbian> rostayob: sure
[16:44] <edbian> rostayob: I keep it set that way :)
[16:45] <FarmerMcNugget> Is there a way  to mute FireFox?
[16:45] <edbian> FarmerMcNugget: Just firefox?  No
[16:45] <FarmerMcNugget> Really?
[16:45] <FarmerMcNugget> Shame
[16:45] <kkulhavy> Please keep questions on one line, include all your system information in question, and keep lines shorter that 80 characters.
[16:45] <FarmerMcNugget> Is there a way just to have one thing playing?
[16:45] <rhin0> you want to mute ads don't you (and not your whole sound)
[16:45] <edbian> FarmerMcNugget: Although Ubuntu switched the x plus and minux to the left side to make room for apps that could do that.  Then they never wrote those apps.  Called windowlets
[16:46] <rhin0> maybe you could turn flash off or do something with flash settings FarmerMcNugget (not sure)
[16:46] <RyuGuns> Ubuntu should have a sound mixer by now.
[16:46] <rhin0> to stop the irritating ads playing
[16:46] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, start Firefox from xterm and press ctrl-z on the xterm where it was started from?
[16:46]  * kkulhavy is going to try
[16:46] <rhin0> maybe chrome has a feature
[16:47] <PythonSnake> Hi
[16:47] <PythonSnake> Is there anyway to change system tray icon to set pidgin when I click on chat ?
[16:47] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, sorry, it doesn't mute. Just the sound starts repeating in an endless loop.
[16:47] <FarmerMcNugget> Meh, I just wanna shut these ads up, but I'm watching a video with flash...
[16:48] <DJones> FarmerMcNugget: I use a flash block in chrome & just allow flash to run when I want it
[16:48] <rhin0> going to be tricky I think FarmerMcNugget -- its filtering -- I know that apple browser now filters ads
[16:48] <edbian> FarmerMcNugget: use flashblock.  It makes it so you have to click on a flash item before it runs.  You simply click on the video and not the add.  It's a firefox addon
[16:48] <Pici> FarmerMcNugget: IIRC, you should be able to change your per-application sound volumes via your sound preferences tool in Ubuntu.
[16:48] <rhin0> has to distinguish between an ad and your media -- not possible really
[16:49] <thinkpad> Hey guys, how do I find out the owner of a specific file? Im having trouble getting rsync to copy this certain directory
[16:49] <dean> Hi all could someone tell me if there is vbox channel?
[16:49] <bazhang> #vbox
[16:49] <siavoshkc> RyuGuns: you CAN boot windows from cd or anything
[16:49] <Faustus2> i've changed the desktop folder in: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, and this works, but some application or service is also recreating the ~/Desktop folder. Any idea how to stop this?
[16:49] <RyuGuns> Didn't know that.
[16:49] <edbian> thinkpad: ls -l /path/to/file/
[16:49] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, Flashblock addon
[16:49]  * Mandrew is away: I'm in the Hammock dont disturb
[16:49] <FarmerMcNugget> Whyoo!
[16:49] <Pici> !away > Mandrew
[16:49] <RyuGuns> Okay, I thought windows needed a NTFS Partition on the harddrive
[16:49] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there a tool in Ubuntu to customize the BIOS splash screen?
[16:50] <RyuGuns> Hollie :D
[16:50] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, flashblock replaces every flash with an icon, which u click and first then it runs
[16:50] <PythonSnake> help..
[16:50] <FarmerMcNugget> Hi, Whyooo! It's me. The all mighty master of TheNewBoston IRC!
[16:50] <RyuGuns> :)
[16:50] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  cant say ive ever seen a tool to do that.
[16:50] <RyuGuns> Hi Holiverh
[16:50]  * Mandrew is away: I'm in the Hammock dont disturb
[16:50] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, so you will click the flash icon on youtube and will hear youtube video, but ads stay blocked
[16:50] <RyuGuns> Why is it down?
[16:50] <FarmerMcNugget> Gah! Don't ever call me gay again!
[16:50] <rhin0> that sounds good kkulhavy -- is that a userscript?
[16:50] <Pici> FarmerMcNugget: Stop that.
[16:50] <RyuGuns> FarmerMcNugget: We're going off-topic, PM me :)
[16:51] <kkulhavy> rhin0, not sure what it is, you google flashblock and then just click Yes, Yes, Yes in Firefox
[16:51] <Osmodivs> dr_willis,  Well, there is MM_Tools in Windows, so I thought, there is gotta be a Linux ersion
[16:51] <rhin0> it'll be an add-on then kkulhavy
[16:51] <FarmerMcNugget> Pici, what's the source of IIRC? I can't find it in the software manager./
[16:51] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  cant say ive ever seen it done in windows.. but its the sort of thing i disable om my machines anyway
[16:51] <Pici> FarmerMcNugget: Its not in software manager. It should already be installed.
[16:51] <FarmerMcNugget> How do I use it?
[16:52] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/
[16:52] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, then download now, [Install]
[16:52] <FarmerMcNugget> Kkulhavy, I only wanna block the youtube videos.
[16:52] <Pici> FarmerMcNugget: If you are using Ubuntu Classic, its in System>Preferences>Sound (or 'audio')
[16:53] <PythonSnake> anyone can help me I wanna update but
[16:53] <PythonSnake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633701/
[16:53] <roasted> Does Ubuntu's Disk Utility not like solid state drives? I have a 16gb SSD in my laptop and when I try to run an extended test, it self cancels itself after 5 seconds.
[16:53] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, yes, that shoudl work
[16:53] <PythonSnake> I ran sudo apt-get update
[16:53] <kkulhavy> FarmerMcNugget, with flashblock only those flash things will run which you explicitly click.
[16:53] <edbian> PythonSnake: That just updates the package cache.  You wanna run sudo apt-get safe-upgrade to actually update the packages
[16:54] <dean> Hi is there a reason why games don't work on vbox or am I doing something wrong?
[16:54] <kkulhavy> dean, this is Linux, it's not only games that don't work
[16:54] <FarmerMcNugget> Thanks so much Pici!!
[16:54] <PythonSnake> I want to update cache
[16:54] <edbian> PythonSnake: sudo apt-get update    then
[16:54] <PythonSnake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633701/
[16:54] <PythonSnake> error
[16:54] <PythonSnake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/633701/
[16:54] <dean> kkulhavy, But Vbox runs xp and I am wondering why the games don't run
[16:54] <edbian> !publickey
[16:55] <Pici> !ppagpg | PythonSnake
[16:55] <bazhang> PythonSnake, remove the ppa or fix the gpgerr
[16:55] <PythonSnake> how to fix gpgerr ?
[16:56] <dr_willis> gotta love it when the answer is given befor the question is asked...
[16:56] <bazhang> PythonSnake, see the link above
[16:56] <bazhang> err factoid
[16:56] <RyuGuns> Ubuntu should have a sound mixer by now.
[16:56] <dr_willis> dean,  what games? vbox dosent really do '3d video' very well.
[16:56] <Ben_Stone> Hello, I just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11, and I seem to not be able to boot. It stops just after "Stopping Userspace Bootsplash"
[16:56] <jpds> RyuGuns: audacity ?
[16:57] <kkulhavy> Ben_Stone, maybe the boot function was removed from Ubuntu 11?
[16:57] <RyuGuns> Audaity..
[16:57] <RyuGuns> I mean like the mixer on windows...
[16:57] <Velmont> I have a problem with Ubuntu 11.04 hanging on login. It doesn't always do it, and it only happens when logging in to Unity, not classic. Any known errors like that? Unity won't start, just hangs on the login.
[16:57] <Ben_Stone> kkulhavy: ?
[16:57] <RyuGuns> To control how much noise a Prapplication can make.
[16:57] <RyuGuns> application*
[16:57] <Pici> RyuGuns: There already is one.
[16:57] <dr_willis> RyuGuns, pulse audio has similer features i recall
[16:57] <dean> dr_willis, Hi its neohasreturned from yesterday you ok? Well I tried cue club in the past and I wanted to run american mcgees alice?
[16:58] <RyuGuns> Okay.
[16:58] <dr_willis> dean,  i doubt if any 3d games will work well in vmware or virtualbox.    Why dont you try them in wine.
[16:58] <dr_willis> even old old games like those. :)
[16:58] <kkulhavy> RyuGuns, I agree
[16:58] <RyuGuns> :)
[16:58] <Ben_Stone> RyuGuns: what game? Steam runs perfectly in Wine, as does TF2
[16:59] <RyuGuns> ...
[16:59] <dr_willis> steam may work in wine.. but not all steam games work.
[16:59] <RyuGuns> We shouldn't have to run windows Applications to enjoy gaming.
[16:59] <Ben_Stone> dr_willis: all of them that I have do, but I never said that all of them do ;)
[16:59] <dean> dr_willis, But I thought when you install xp in vbox it users drivers from the installation?
[16:59] <RyuGuns> We should be able to enjoy games like Windows users.
[16:59] <dr_willis> dean,  virtualbox emulates a video card..
[17:00] <dean> RyuGuns, I agree its frustrating
[17:00] <dr_willis> dean,  theres some 3d support in vbox.. but its limited to special cases i belive
[17:00] <Ben_Stone> Any advice on Ubuntu halting before it loads the GUI? TTY mode works.
[17:00] <edbian> RyuGuns: Well then tell game developers to start releasing linux versions of their games
[17:00] <dean> dr_willis, Oh I see wine is very hard to configure to get things working?
[17:00] <dr_willis> dean,  ive rarely had issues with wine.. see the wine app database.
[17:00] <dr_willis> theres front ends to wine also.
[17:01] <dr_willis> !appdb | dean
[17:01] <Ben_Stone> >> PlayOnLinus is good for games
[17:01] <RyuGuns> ...
[17:01] <RyuGuns> MEh
[17:01] <kla> OnLinus?
[17:01] <RyuGuns> Linux*
[17:01] <dr_willis> PlayonLinux = a wine front end.
[17:01] <Ben_Stone> ah, yeah, excuse my fingers
[17:01] <RyuGuns> Linus lets us play games on him... AWSUM
[17:01] <RyuGuns> lol
[17:02] <Ben_Stone> lol
[17:02] <bazhang> !ot | RyuGuns
[17:02] <kkulhavy> edbian, "oh sorry, we would release Linux version of our game, but noone told us"
[17:02] <dean> dr_willis, What is front end without sounding thick lol
[17:03] <dr_willis> its an interface that uses wine  behind the scenes
[17:03] <kla> an extra layer of abstraction, usually but not always improving user friendliness
[17:03] <pobri19> Pici: it didnt work :( WHY OH WHY:?!?!?!?! This is driving me mental.
[17:03] <thinkpad> Another question rsync just skips this certain directory on my server. The permissions seem to be the same as evrything else but rsync refuses to do that directory, and suggestions?
[17:03] <dean> dr_willis, Oh ok is playonlinus any good for gaming then?
[17:03] <dr_willis> dean,  its a fancy front end to wine.. it does the same games that wine can do.
[17:03] <edbian> thinkpad: turn -vv on in rsync.  It will tell you what is going on (very verbose)
[17:03] <Ben_Stone> :/ w3m google it is
[17:04] <dr_willis> dean,  PlayOnLinux = is designed to play games on linux in wine...
[17:04] <thinkpad> thanks edbian
[17:04] <dean> dr_willis, Fair enough lol I will give it a bash lol
[17:04] <edbian> thinkpad: sure
[17:04] <dr_willis> wine /path/to/the/game.exe     works for me most of the time..
[17:04] <delinquentme> dr_willis, good for starcraft 2 on linux?
[17:04] <dr_willis> delinquentme,  see the wine app database.
[17:05] <dean> dr_willis, I will let you know my findings lol
[17:05] <dr_willis> dean,  means very little to me :) i got a windows box to play games on.
[17:05] <dr_willis> it has 10x the power of this linux box.
[17:05] <dean> dr_willis, For some reason my laptop don't like dual booting
[17:05] <dr_willis> I play more games ion my android phone then i do on the pcs
[17:06] <abdan> askum..
[17:06] <dean> dr_willis, I love american mcgees alice and cue club only problem lol
[17:06] <FSX> Hi, I get "Out of range" when I boot with 11.04. But when Ubuntu is booted everything works. What could be the cause?
[17:09] <dr_willis> I recall doing that alice games years and years ago...
[17:09] <dr_willis> try them in wine..
[17:10] <dean> dr_willis, I have installed playonlinux its wine?
[17:10] <dr_willis> grub is giveing/trying to use a refresh rate that the monitor dosent like
[17:10] <dr_willis> dean,  playonlinux USES wine...   its a front end to wine...
[17:10] <dr_willis> FSX,  i edit my /etc/default/grub to set it to use 640x480 res. and then i get a simple low res grub menu.
[17:11] <dean> dr_willis, Do you know how to install games on it?
[17:11] <dr_willis> dean,  you can proberly just copy the installed game from your windows drive to your users home dir.. and use wine directly
[17:11] <dr_willis> dean,  I dont use PlayOnlinux. check its help docs.
[17:11] <dean> dr_willis, thanks anyway
[17:11] <dr_willis> copy game to game dir.. wine game/whatever/gamename.exe         <--------------- works for most games
[17:12] <FSX> dr_willis: I can't do anything atm. Only have a out of range error.
[17:12] <dr_willis> or install it with wine so you get an icon.
[17:12] <FSX> dr_willis: Grub doesn't doesn't show up either.
[17:12] <dr_willis> FSX,  You said everything worked after it boots... edit the file after  you get tio the desktop
[17:13] <dr_willis> grub is trying to display a fancy menu on a res that your monitor dosent like.
[17:13] <dr_willis> the GDM login screen works?
[17:13] <FSX> dr_willis: That was before today.
[17:13] <Thomas_Bates> Ubuntu 11 hangs on "Stopping Userspace Bootsplash" anything I can do about this? (w3m Google isn't being very helpful)
[17:13] <FSX> dr_willis: I'll make a bootable USB and see if I can edit stuff.
[17:14] <dr_willis> FSX,  so the system fails to boot at all then?  You said it did work earlier...
[17:14] <dr_willis> FSX,  you may want to try to get ssh installed on the system. that way you can ssh in, and try to fix things remotely. makes it a bit easier.
[17:14] <JamesBoo_> hello, i am a new ubuntu use, i am trying to use ubuntu on my bitcoin mining rig.... I am in ubuntu and follow instructions to install all the stuff I need, and Im having a slight mental "mis-step" while tyring to figure this out... ... Next, you’ll attempt to build your proprietary drivers. You need to download ati-driver-installer-11-3-x86.x86_64.run from AMD’s Support site.  Go back to your terminal window, and navigate to the 
[17:14] <Thomas_Bates> ugh Bitcoin
[17:14] <FSX> dr_willis: It suddenly shutdown and now the display only shows an out of range error.
[17:15] <JamesBoo_> i cant seem to navigate the directory ot run the driver
[17:15] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  you proberly want the drivers that are in the repos...
[17:15] <FSX> dr_willis: I don't really know if it boots completely. But I'll try ssh.
[17:15] <kunguz> I am using ubuntu-arm in my beagleboard, but I could not figure out how to connect to any SSID, can some one please help me with it?
[17:15] <JamesBoo_> dr_willis: repos? already installled?
[17:15] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  the default ati drivers that are included with the os. in the package manager tools.. run 'jockey-gtk' and see what it suggests
[17:15] <JamesBoo_> i downloaded the file to downloads... how do i navigate that file?
[17:16] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  forget about using the ones you downloaded.. try the ones from the repos first.
[17:16] <dr_willis> run jockey-gtk - and see if it will izntall them for you
[17:17] <JamesBoo_> ok, so instead of running that file, i should just run jockey-gtk   ... This is the link to what Im trying to do... Im on the step where it says to run the drivers i downloaded from ATI http://foreverrising.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/bitcoin-mining-and-ubuntu-10-10-ati-radeon-5xxx/
[17:17] <koppe> Which is the best MTA - postfix or exim?
[17:17] <jpds> !best | koppe
[17:17] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  those directions could break your system . what if those drivers are not supporting your card....
[17:17] <JamesBoo_> but they are supporting my card, i got them from the manufacturer.,...
[17:17] <dr_willis> I would be suspect of the rest of the directions as well.
[17:17] <j3roth> If i hit ctrl + alt + f2 to drop out to a console. What do I hit to return to the same X session?
[17:18] <JamesBoo_> anways, i just ran jocket-gtk and it says no proprietary drivers are installed
[17:18] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  ati drivers dont support ALL ati cards.. they are constantly phaseing out support for older chipsets.. what is your exact chipset?
[17:18] <dr_willis> and newer chipsets may or may not work with ubuntu and the latest ati drivers.
[17:18] <JamesBoo_> chipset ont he card?
[17:19] <JamesBoo_> why wont you just tell me the file path wher ei downloaded the drivers?
[17:19] <JamesBoo_> I downloaded the drivers....Go back to your terminal window, and navigate to the directory where you downloaded that package.  cd [path to download directory]  Then run the file.
[17:19] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  if you really want to install the .run drivers. you should  read up on shell fundamentals.    you basically  'cd Directorywheredriversareat' then 'sudo sh ./thed4riversname.run'
[17:19] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  yes. thats rather basic bash ussage..
[17:19] <JamesBoo_> i know, but ive never uised ubuntu, what "Directorywheredriverareat"
[17:19] <dr_willis> I dont think you can install the drivers while X is running either.. you may need to do this from the cosnole
[17:20] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  where are they at?
[17:20] <koppe> Not taking a poll... just wondering which one I should install.  Surely some have experiences with either one or both, and could tell me which the prefered.
[17:20] <dr_willis> You downloaded and put them somewhere...
[17:20] <JamesBoo_> i dont know, they are in "downloads"
[17:20] <johnetomat> im getting the error "could not update ICEauthority file /home/myuser/.ICEauthority" when trying to login. ive googled it and people are saying it's a permissions issue. ive tried correcting every set of permissions people have suggested but still nothing works... does anyone have any insight in to this?
[17:20] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  so you just answred the question. :) and CASE is imporjntant in linux.. its 'Downloads' not 'downloads'
[17:20] <Pici> dr_willis: so is spelling ;)
[17:20] <JamesBoo_> I downloaded the file ati-driver-installer-11-3-x86.x86_64.run and its in file "Downloads"  Ive
[17:21] <JamesBoo_> so just cd Downloads
[17:21] <JamesBoo_> ?
[17:21] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  try it and see...
[17:21] <johnetomat> also.. cold anyone tell me how to create a user through the command line so that i can autologin as them through gnome?
[17:21] <dr_willis>  :)
[17:21] <dr_willis> autlogin is a gnom/gdm setting. You would have to use the gdm config tools . or edit the gdm config files to autologin the new user.
[17:22] <JamesBoo_> dr_willis: it says sh: Cant open the "ati.driver...
[17:22] <invlpg[1]> how do i see all the open windows on ubunutu unity, like we had a task bar in gnome?!
[17:23] <dr_willis> adduser billgates   -> then edit some file i cant find...
[17:23] <johnetomat> dr_willis, i can do that, but if i create a new user with 'adduser' it doesnt create the .ICEauthority file, so i get the same error msg when trying to login as that new user
[17:23] <dr_willis> JamesBoo_,  you did spell it correctly? proper case and so forth.
[17:23] <dr_willis> johnetomat,  thats odd.. i use adduser all the time.. and they can always login via X.
[17:24] <dr_willis> johnetomat,  the newly added user does have a /home/USERNAME directory?
[17:24] <johnetomat> dr_willis, yeah, they get a home directory
[17:25] <johnetomat> but they dont get a .ICEauthority file, so i still get the "could not update ICEauthority file ..." error msg
[17:25] <dr_willis> my .ICEauthority is -> /home/willis/.ICEauthority
[17:25] <dr_willis> willis@Cowbuntu:~$ ls -al .ICEauthority
[17:25] <dr_willis> -rw------- 1 willis willis 1630 2011-06-24 07:31 .ICEauthority
[17:25] <dr_willis> do they have the file? whats its permissions?
[17:26] <Darkdrake> hello
[17:26] <Psydoll> Im running the lts version of ubuntu can i still keep the same gui etc in natty i heard they completely changed it?
[17:26] <Darkdrake> i have a problem with nvidia geforce 6100 on unbuntu
[17:27] <johnetomat> the original user had the .ICEauthority file, it's permissions are 644. when i create a new user with 'adduser,' they dont have the file at all
[17:27] <Pici> !classic | Psydoll
[17:28] <Panarchy> hi
[17:28] <Psydoll> ok
[17:28] <Darkdrake> can someone help me
[17:28] <Darkdrake> please
[17:28] <Panarchy> no
[17:29] <Pici> !ask | Darkdrake
[17:30] <Pici> Darkdrake: Please provide more details than what you previously did. Ubuntu version, whats wrong, etc.
[17:30] <Darkdrake> my problem is the x server don't save the settings
[17:31] <DarsVaeda> hi, how do I deactivate the snap to edges function that will fullsize an application window in gnome natty?
[17:34] <Panarchy> I'm getting some errors, how do I download the dependencies?
[17:34] <Panarchy> Can't locate IO/Pty.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Expect.pm line 22.
[17:34] <Panarchy> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Expect.pm line 22.
[17:34] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <Yukinoroh> hello
[17:35] <varunthacker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10985005#post10985005 -- any comments on how to solve this problem
[17:35] <Yukinoroh> I gave it a try to Gnome3 but is it me or it looks like Unity?
[17:35] <xmd> i am having some serious issues installing ubuntu... I am a new user and I am trying to install but i am having issues with disc space...
[17:35] <dr_willis> johnetomat,  the file is made as part of the X startup scripts i imagine..
[17:36] <pobri19> what would make a bash script behave differently when being called by a cron opposed to manually on the command line?
[17:36] <Hells2011> which the server ubuntu brazil?
[17:36] <dr_willis> pobri19,  cron does not use the same default path, or alias's or other things in  the bash configs perhaps?
[17:36] <dr_willis> pobri19,  also the user may differ.
[17:37] <xmd> I have put a bootable version of ubuntu on a 250GB external USB hard drive...I can boot it fine into my machince, when I am in ubuntu, it keeps sayin I am out of disc space, but the external hard drive is wide open
[17:37] <pobri19> dr_willis: the user is the same, and the bash path is the same as the one on my dev box which works
[17:38] <alienmindtrick> how do i switch from gnome 3 to gnome 2 in natty?
[17:39] <cna_> apt-get remove gnome3
[17:39] <rhin0> xmd the separate drive is not the same as your ubuntu machine it won't use that separate drive/volume as main storage -- the disk space required for your OS must be on your main machine (it doesn't count if it's on the external drive)
[17:40] <rhin0> the usb drive is a separate mount
[17:41] <rhin0> you need more disk space on the main machine -- or possibly put the swap onto the external usb drive but i'm not sure how you would configure that -- swap is disk buffering the OS requires to run if you only have a small amount of memory
[17:41] <catarinafelix> hi everybody
[17:43] <catarinafelix> I was wondering: when i create an analysis in biserver, with a cube created in schema-wonkbench, is there a user-friendly way to alter the cube?
[17:43] <catarinafelix> inside biserver
[17:43] <catarinafelix> even if it's only to hide dimensions
[17:46] <hajmola> hey I'm trying to use make and I get: fatal error: GL/glut.h: No such file or directory
[17:46] <hajmola> but I have glut installed, according to synaptic
[17:47] <danopia> you need the glut-dev package, i forget its exact name
[17:47] <danopia> libglut3-dev for me
[17:47] <hajmola> danopia, freeglut3-dev?
[17:47] <hajmola> ahh, thanks
[17:47] <danopia> try it, see if it works :P
[17:48] <Ar1ta> #linux_mx
[17:48] <Michiellll-lapto> ubuntu doesnt make a separate /boot partition by default?
[17:48] <Michiellll-lapto> :S
[17:49] <sipior> Michiellll-lapto: easy enough to add if you want it.
[17:49] <g-man> So make it by hands, what's the problem?
[17:49] <xmd> rhin0: thank you for your response about my memory problem.  I figured it had something to do with the external drive.... I do not have a HDD, and that is why I am booting ubuntu from a flash drive
[17:49] <alienmindtrick> how do i revert to gnome 2 from gnome 3 in 11.04 natty using the classic theme?
[17:49] <tjk11> can someone help me isntall ndiswrapper
[17:50] <io> !softare | tjk11
[17:50] <g-man> tjk11: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[17:50] <io> !software | tjk11
[17:50] <tjk11> thanks
[17:50] <rhin0> thats it xmd -- not enough room to cram ubuntu/swapspace onto it
[17:51] <xmd> anyone know who I can use my external hard drive as my main OS memory.... ubuntu wont recognize my external hard drive as my memory
[17:51] <xmd> rhin0: what do you mean "thats It"
[17:51] <rhin0> xmd you want to know whether you can boot ubuntu from an external drive
[17:51] <xmd> i already have booted it
[17:51] <rhin0> I mean thats what the problem is xmd
[17:51] <xmd> I am actually tlaking here through the Ubuntu
[17:51] <Michiellll-lapto> sipior, i can make one after install?
[17:51] <xmd> through firefox
[17:51] <io> alienmindtrick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744737
[17:51] <ypk> Hi in there, i have a little grub issue, my computer is starting over and over again after loading the ramdisk. Any idea how to fix it? I it one time but I had to reinstall... trying to avoid that this time. Already chrooted and ran update-grub2 also grub-install on the boot disk.
[17:51] <xmd> i cant install anything because ubuntu doesnt recognize my disc space
[17:51] <neobit> Hello. Is it possible to use Ubuntu One space as an SVN server ? Or ftp server... or something else than just synchronisation by OS?
[17:52] <sipior> Michiellll-lapto: in principle, yes, but you'd need to be careful about it.
[17:52] <Michiellll-lapto> heh fstab is using UUID's :/
[17:52] <dvgsvc> anyone knows of an app for taking shots from the webcam
[17:52] <rhin0> you won;'t be able to its a usb flash drive
[17:52] <rhin0> v small
[17:52] <xmd> i have no HDD, all I have is the external USB drive but it has 250 + GB free space
[17:52] <hajmola> danopia, I get this when I try cmake: GLUT_Xmu_LIBRARY not found
[17:52] <Dbl_Tap> dvgsvc: cheese
[17:52] <danopia> hajmola, i don't konw that that means :P
[17:52] <rhin0> you need to find out if you can BOOT ubuntu from an external drive -- you probably can -- install the OS/bootloader onto it
[17:52] <xmd> rhin0: its a 250GB flash drive
[17:52] <dvgsvc> Dbl_Tap, other than that?
[17:52] <dvgsvc> more configurable
[17:52] <hajmola> danopia, ha, that's cool thanks
[17:52] <alienmindtrick> io:  Thank you!
[17:52] <Dbl_Tap> dvgsvc: sorry only one I have used.
[17:52] <xmd> I ALREADY HAVE BOOTED UBUNTU FROM THE EXTERNAL DRIVE
[17:52] <Panarchy> How do I find out what network card I have? - I'm trying to see if mine can be set in monitor mode
[17:53] <rhin0> why the capslock xmd
[17:53] <xmd> because you keep saying you dont know if you can boot it from a flash drive
[17:53] <rhin0> talk to someone else xmd
[17:53] <rhin0> bye
[17:53] <xmd> can seriously, no one fricken help me about the disc space thing
[17:53] <xmd> im abotu to use a fucikign windows cd
[17:53] <Pici> xmd: Mind your language here, and be patient.
[17:53] <IdleOne> xmd: calm down please. Just got here what is the issue?
[17:54] <xmd> IdleOne:  I am a new ubuntu user, i just decided to use it two days ago....
[17:54] <dr_willis> disk space thing?
[17:54] <IdleOne> xmd: that isn't a problem :)
[17:54] <xmd> IdleOne: I have booted ubuntu successfully from my external hard drive
[17:54] <rhin0> xmd you said you are running ubuntu off the flash drive -- you say its running out of space -- then you say 250gb flash drive -- so that really is not the issue -- then I tell you you need to get ubuntu to boot from the external drive -- and you are ignoring me
[17:54] <xmd> yea, i just dont have any disc space
[17:54] <xmd> it wont let me install drivers and programs
[17:54] <rhin0> xmd your setup is atypical
[17:55] <xmd> I alreadu have it booting from the external drive!
[17:55] <arnpro> how do I find out which MTA my ubuntu server is using?
[17:55] <dr_willis> a 250gb flash drive? you mean an external Usb hard disk ?
[17:55] <IdleOne> xmd: ok so you are using the external HDD as a live USB?
[17:55] <rhin0> can't be a 250gb flash drive they are rare and extremely expensive
[17:55] <xmd> IdleOne: exactly
[17:55] <jaredev> eens
[17:55] <dr_willis> xmd,  how did you install to this drive?
[17:56] <xmd> IdleOne: I am in ubuntu now, it works great, but it says i have no disc space
[17:56] <xmd> i used the universal USB installer
[17:56] <arnpro> how do I find out which MTA my ubuntu server is using?
[17:56] <rhin0> xmd in a bash shell type df and pastebin the results
[17:56] <dr_willis> xmd,  you told it to make a persistant 'save' file?
[17:56] <Dbl_Tap> xmd: sounds like you mounted the disk in read only mode. Did you use the boot now feature from the startup or did you actually run through the install to the usb disk.
[17:57] <dr_willis> xmd,  this is the universial usb installer from the Pendrivelinux web site?
[17:57] <rhin0> ok scrub that xmd -- you may have mounted it read-only
[17:58] <sipior> arnpro: quickest is just "telnet <hostname> 25". most MTAs introduce themselves.
[17:58] <sipior> arnpro: or just figure out which package you've got installed.
[17:59] <dr_willis> sounds like xmd either did not make a persistant save file. or it has finally filled up.
[18:01] <IdleOne> dr_willis: I might be wrong but unless the drive was already partitioned before creating the USB boot wouldn't the entire 250GB be mounted when he boots?
[18:02] <dr_willis> IdleOne,  if he did one of the tools like unetbootin.. it made a live-cd type insatll. and a persistant save file.. using the vfat filesystem.
[18:02] <dr_willis> the rest of the 250 could be accessed. but not  as a linux partition...
[18:02] <dr_willis> but we seem to be getting ignored now. :)
[18:03] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l output would clarify a lot of things.
[18:03] <arnpro> sipior: nothing comes up when telnet. I need to know which MTA I got because I did mail in command line and I got the email but with a unknown sender...
[18:03] <sipior> dr_willis: i believe he has left the building :-)
[18:04] <rhin0> dr_willis if he'd have stuck with it and not lost his temper and blown off he may have got it solved pretty quickly
[18:04] <dr_willis> if he had done a 'normal' install to the usb hd... (like i am using now) he would be able to use all the hd as if it was an internal hd.
[18:04] <dr_willis> but people dont want to 'learn' these days.. :()
[18:04] <IdleOne> hopefully he will be back. Next!
[18:05] <ypk> hi, i'm currently facing a boot issue, the pc restarts after loading the ramdisk with the latest ubuntu. Can this be grub related or do I have to try to regenerate that ramdisk in some way that it works?
[18:05] <dr_willis> ramdisk? you mean the initrd ?
[18:05] <ypk> yes
[18:06] <dr_willis> Hmm.. never had an initrd issue
[18:06] <sipior> arnpro: try grepping through the output of dpkg -l, or just see if you have a /etc/postfix directory.
[18:06] <dr_willis> !initrd
[18:07] <Tumaini> Hello! I'm having a very elusive problem/bug that I thought I'd check with you if you know what it is, to give me a clue as to the solution.
[18:07] <Tumaini> I'm running a graphical program, that uses OpenGL for drawing in a window using Java and I'm getting the following error for this one application:
[18:07] <Tumaini> java: ../../src/xcb_io.c:140: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion `req == dpy->xcb->pending_requests' failed.
[18:07] <Tumaini> Any clues?
[18:08] <ypk> dr_willis: me neither but with this one computer i got that problem... once i run the update-grub2 command the thing stops booting
[18:08] <phux> running apt-get gives me a lot of Ign lines. As i found, this means nothing has changed since i last checked. doesnt it mean, that after an apt-get update |apt-get upgrade there should be just Ign lines? or do i get something wrong?
[18:08] <Habeeb> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with Flash under 64-bit ubuntu in Firefox
[18:08] <arnpro> you're right sipior, I got postfix, but I'd need  to configure it, right? because I just bought the server ... and it has no plesk or cpanel, just the ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <sipior> arnpro: yes, you'd definitely need to configure it properly.
[18:09] <stercor> Where is the PATH set?
[18:09] <sipior> arnpro: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[18:09] <Tumaini> Does anyone have a clue what "java: ../../src/xcb_io.c:140: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion `req == dpy->xcb->pending_requests' failed." implies?
[18:10] <arnpro> will do, thanks sipior
[18:10] <rhin0> habeeb I think there is a firefox extension specifically for 64 bit flash
[18:11] <XDM_> hello again, can anyone help me with my disc space issue?
[18:11] <rhin0> yep
[18:11] <XDM_> ( i got disconnected)
[18:11] <arnpro> sipior: is it possible to have a custom config per virtualhost??
[18:11] <Tumaini> It seems the problem appears in many places in 11.04 - spotify, cheese and other apps that are graphical.
[18:11] <kunguz> how do I connect to a open essid using /etc/network/interfaces, can anyone please help I am really stuck with it?
[18:11] <rhin0> you can't scroll back -- because some people here posted the answer for you xdm
[18:11] <dr_willis> XDM_,  if you did a 'live' cd type insatll to a hard drive. it should have made a 'persistant save file' - that file could be getting filled up.
[18:12] <arnpro> because it is asking me to set up a root account, but I'll have multiple sites in my server.... sipior
[18:12] <dr_willis> XDM_,  you used the Universial USB installer tool from the 'pendrivelinux' web site?
[18:12] <XDM_> dr_willis: Im not sure if I did a "live" cd, but I think I am running ubuntu "live"
[18:12] <XDM_> dr_willis : yes i think so
[18:12] <sipior> arnpro: sorry, what's asking you to set up a root account?
[18:13] <XDM_> so what do I do to get ubuntu to recognize my entire 250GB external hard drive
[18:13] <dr_willis> XDM_,  that method is normally used for smaller flash drives like 4-16gb. with a small (a few gb) persistant save file. I think the max save file it can use is 4gb normally
[18:13] <dr_willis> XDM_,  the BEST solution would be for you to do a 'normal' install to that external usb hd. as if it was an internal hd.
[18:13] <dr_willis> alternatively you can resize the save file. but ive only done that once..
[18:14] <dr_willis> the live-setup with save file - can have other quirks. but its great for small flash drives and speficic cases.
[18:14] <arnpro> sipior: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix, What I want to have is 2 email per site I got hosted... for example email@site1.com and email@site2.com
[18:14] <XDM_> yes i have been trying... but it gives me this error when i try to install it to the external hard drive....No root file system defined
[18:14] <sipior> arnpro: sure, that's not a problem. the documentation is pretty thorough.
[18:14] <dr_willis> You are installing from the external hd to the same external hd?
[18:15] <arnpro> what would I need to implement in order to accomplish that? sipior, postfix+ldap? or something?
[18:15] <XDM_> why wont it let me install ubuntu to the external drive I am running live from
[18:15] <dr_willis> XDM_,  when doing that instasll you need to make some partitions and define one to be the '/' partition, and one to be a swap partition.   the easy route would be for you to burn a cd. and boot the cd. and insatll from taht to the hard drive
[18:15] <dr_willis> XDM_,  because it will want to resize the partitons that are IN USE...
[18:16] <sipior> arnpro: how about reading through that link i gave you :-)
[18:16] <dr_willis> XDM_,  if you partiton the hd with a live cd. that may be doable.. but  thats getting very weird way of doing an inzstall
[18:16] <XDM_> yea this is getting complicated
[18:17] <XDM_> dr_willis:  could i boot ubuntu from another USB drive, and then install it to the external HDD?
[18:17] <dr_willis> XDM_,  its because of the way you installed it.. the normal way is boot a cd, or flash drive. and isntall to the other location
[18:17] <dr_willis> XDM_,  you can do that.. thats exactly how i normally do it.
[18:17] <vupham> hello
[18:17] <dr_willis> boot a live-flash drive i have tweaked.. install to my real hard drive.
[18:18] <themexbob> hello everyone - how can i edit windows ntfs permissions with ubuntu?
[18:18] <dr_willis> I have a multi-iso flash drive setup that lets me boot Kubuntu, ubuntu, lubuntu, or others.. i can then install whatever one i want to what pc i want.
[18:18] <dr_willis> themexbob,  you set them when you mount the drive normally.
[18:18] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[18:19] <dr_willis> themexbob,  the ntfs-config tool can tweak them a bit. or you make a fstab entry that defines exactly how you want it done.
[18:20] <XDM_> dr_willis: so if i boot from a different USB flash drive, my big 250GB drive will be free and ubuntu will let me use it as the HDD ?
[18:20] <XDM_> dr_willis: is ubuntu going to recognize the external USB HDD as a HDD if im not using it as a LIve drive
[18:21] <Priyanka> Hi
[18:22] <dr_willis> XDM_,  it can repartiton and use the usb as a real hd.. thats EXACTLY how i am running this sytem right now
[18:22] <dr_willis> it can be a little quirky in ways.. I have to be SURE to tell GRUB to install to the MBR of the usb hd.. and i have to tell the BIOS to boot the usb hd when i bootup.
[18:22] <kanupatar> can u get the path of zmodem source in ubuntu?
[18:22] <dr_willis> XDM_,  you can tell the installer to use all of the disk..  and it should auto partito9n it as needed.
[18:23] <XDM_> Dr_willis:  I am not following you, which installer are you referring rto?
[18:23] <dr_willis> XDM_,  the normal ubuntu installer...
[18:23] <dr_willis> not the universial installer.. that one only does live-setups
[18:23] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I don't like the mozilla 5 thats in the latest ubuntu release. Can someone please tell me how to downgrade to version 4?? TIA!
[18:23] <XDM_> i dont knwo what you are talking not
[18:23] <sluther> anyone know what file contains the command that loads the iptables config at boot?
[18:24] <dr_willis> boot flash drive.. get to ubuntu desktop.. run the installer...
[18:24] <kanupatar> can u get the path of zmodem source in ubuntu?
[18:24] <alessio_alex> hello
[18:24] <kanupatar> from Chuck
[18:24] <dr_willis> or use the 'install' menu item when you bootup.
[18:24] <alessio_alex> How can I close all programs that use a certain port?
[18:24] <XDM_> dr_willis: i now have no idea what you are talkinbg aout
[18:24] <XDM_> i am about to now boot my mahince from a second, smaller USB drive with Ubuntu one it
[18:25] <XDM_> and then it shoudl allow me to install it to the external HDD since I wont be using the external USB HDD as the live device
[18:25] <XDM_> ?
[18:25] <invlpg[1]> how i view all the open windows on ubuntu unity, like the task bars in gnome?
[18:25] <zamba> i have a rfid reader that's connected as a serial interface on /dev/ttyUSB0.. i want to convert what's read in as keyboard input.. kind of like a barcode scanner works.. how can i do this?
[18:25] <dr_willis> XDM_,  yes. thats how i always install.
[18:26] <XDM_> ok, so you are confusing me with the other stuff....
[18:26] <dr_willis> i said earlier -> <dr_willis> XDM_,  you can do that.. thats exactly how i normally do it.
[18:26] <NewbieToKernel> where can i find ubuntu source code including the kernel?
[18:26] <dr_willis> boot little flash.. install to big hd..
[18:27] <dr_willis> !source
[18:27] <olx69> does anybody know why chromium doesn't show flash any more? chromium shall have flash build in
[18:28] <NewbieToKernel> and how do i build it?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> olx69,  type about:plugins in the addressbar
[18:28] <genii-around> NewbieToKernel: Are you migrating from Gentoo ?
[18:29] <olx69> I did it, there is no flash related, only totem ...
[18:29] <dr_willis> olx69,  the built in flash i thought was enabled by an optional   keyword option when you started the app.
[18:29] <dr_willis>  or was that in google-chrome
[18:29] <NewbieToKernel> @genni :no , I basically want to try and build ubuntu from the source code
[18:29] <dr_willis> !kernel | NewbieToKernel
[18:30] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, i believe it's embedded
[18:30] <NewbieToKernel> i dont want to compile the kernel
[18:30] <dr_willis> NewbieToKernel,  you should proberly learn some linux fundamentals first.
[18:30] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I don't like the mozilla 5 thats in the latest ubuntu release. Can someone please tell me how to downgrade to version 4?? TIA!
[18:30] <olx69> google-chrom --help doesn't show anything about flash
[18:30] <NewbieToKernel> but the front end
[18:30] <dr_willis> get source,  ./configure, make, make install    :)
[18:30] <dr_willis> what front end?
[18:30] <invlpg[1]> how i view all the open windows on ubuntu unity, like the task bars in gnome?
[18:31] <olx69> :(
[18:31] <tjk11> can anyone help me? why is it aborting? ~/Desktop/driver$ unshield x data1.cab
[18:31] <tjk11> Aborted
[18:31] <NewbieToKernel> yes
[18:31] <olx69> orifinL FROM GOOGLE
[18:31] <NewbieToKernel> so where do i get the source from?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> olx69,  I'll repeat ,type,  about:plugins,  in the addressbar
[18:31] <TrevInc> nimbiotics: version 4 is hardly different! you'll want to go back to 3.16, at least, certainly
[18:31] <dr_willis> NewbieToKernel,  you can get the source for spefific packages via the proper apt-get commands..
[18:31] <olx69> sry, I thought thta no flash was relatedto ubuntu build, but isn't. D/L from google shows the same
[18:31] <tjk11> can anyone help me? why is it aborting? ~/Desktop/driver$ unshield x data1.cab
[18:32] <TrevInc> anyway what specifically do you not like about it?
[18:32] <dr_willis> !source
[18:32] <BluesKaj> !who | olx69
[18:33] <tjk11> how do u use the unshield command in terminal?
[18:33] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/use-google-chrome-built-in-flash-in.html
[18:33] <NewbieToKernel> so what apart from the linux kernel constitutes ubuntu?
[18:33] <dr_willis> olx69,  check out that url above
[18:33] <dr_willis> linux technically 'is' just the kernel...
[18:33] <tjk11> how do u use the unshield command in terminal?
[18:34] <dr_willis> its all about layers and layers of software building up like lego blocks of goodness..
[18:34] <GoogleApparently> NewbieToKernel: just how it's setup and what's included
[18:34] <GoogleApparently> patches etc
[18:34] <GoogleApparently> otherwise... who cares
[18:34] <dr_willis> tjk11,  start by reading   'unshield --help' output perhaps?
[18:34] <dr_willis> !info unshield
[18:34] <dr_willis> hmm. that does the same thing as cabextract ?
[18:34] <dr_willis> !info cabextract
[18:35] <dr_willis> oh. installer (unshield) --> cab (cabextract) --> actual files..
[18:36] <NewbieToKernel> so what all constitutes the "ubuntu" flavour? and how do i get the source code for all those? for example ubuntu has a distinctive desktop. Where do i get the sources of that and build it?
[18:36] <dr_willis> NewbieToKernel,  you use the pacakge manger tools to get the source from the repositories.
[18:36] <dr_willis> mint has its own repos.. and specilized source packages for their changes
[18:36] <dr_willis> and so on.
[18:37] <Lasers> And so on.
[18:37] <dr_willis> the offical ubuntu variants all use the same repos. Ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, (any i missed?)
[18:37] <TrevInc> NewbieToKernel: you're looking for GNOME if you want the desktop environment
[18:37] <dr_willis> Other variants (unofficial) have their own extra repos.
[18:38] <TrevInc> Christian Linux
[18:38] <TrevInc> lol
[18:38] <nimbiotics> TrevInc, and how do I do that?
[18:38] <olx69> BluesKaj: chrome://plugins/ doesn't show something about internal flash, only vlc and totem related
[18:38] <TrevInc> sudo apt-get gnome I'd imagine
[18:39] <el_ruso> Hi, i have a HP LaserJet 1020, when i try to print with OpenOffice my Ubuntu 10.10 restarts, why?
[18:39] <TrevInc> http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[18:39] <NewbieToKernel> but the packge manager is after i have ubuntu. say if i have only the kernel then how do i install ubuntu packges one after other?
[18:39] <olx69> TrevInc: this is where I get it
[18:40] <dr_willis> about:plugins  shows flash here in my google-chrome setup.
[18:40] <coz_> NewbieToKernel,   which packages do you want?
[18:40] <olx69> dr_willis: ubuntu 11.04 64bit?
[18:41] <dr_willis> 'using flash player with google chrome' --> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/839/cpsid_83950.html
[18:41] <dr_willis> 11.04 32bit i belive.. its my lubuntu box right now.
[18:41] <PwnusMaximus> hi guys im back, trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 (64bit) on a HP Z600 using a USB flash drive and its hanging on the "ubuntu" logo.. and the dots are not changing color... any tips?
[18:41] <dr_willis> yep - this is 32bit.
[18:41] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | PwnusMaximus
[18:42] <dr_willis> PwnusMaximus,  thers other options that may also help. but i forget the other factoid..
[18:42] <TrevInc> PwnusMaximus: from a USB flash drive? Be extra patient before you decide to restart.
[18:42] <olx69> dr_wills: I know this page; libflashplayergc.so isn't there /opt/google/chrome/
[18:42] <olx69> even if repo enabled for apt
[18:42] <PwnusMaximus> wow, thanks. ill try to change the options and see if it helps
[18:43] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,  does that machine have a cd burner?
[18:43] <olx69> dr_wills: som week before it did work :(
[18:43] <PwnusMaximus> yes, i tried with a CD before the USB but had the same issue
[18:43] <PwnusMaximus> thought USB would fix it
[18:43] <coz_> PwnusMaximus, you might want to try the minimal install cd
[18:43] <dr_willis> ls -l /opt/google/chrome/libgcflashplayer.so
[18:43] <dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12562420 2011-06-13 14:36 /opt/google/chrome/libgcflashplayer.so
[18:43] <dr_willis> it seems to be on 32bit.
[18:43] <dr_willis> or did i spell it wrong.. look for the wrong file.. :)
[18:43] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:44] <PwnusMaximus> coz_: thank you.
[18:44] <dr_willis> PwnusMaximus,  did you try the nomodeset option? what is your video chipset?
[18:44] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,  it is  only 19 megs,, everything installs by downloading
[18:44] <nimbiotics> TrevInc, How can I get version firefox 3.6?
[18:45] <PwnusMaximus> my video chipset is a ATI Radeon 4850
[18:45] <coz_> PwnusMaximus, go with the minimal ,,, you will get to a point where you have options for install,,, arrows to scroll and  space bar to tick the box  not the enter key
[18:45] <PwnusMaximus> dr_willis: im unsure how to ad installation options.. i jest get the list screen "boot into ubuntu, install ubuntu, check memory etc"
[18:45] <TrevInc> nimbiotics: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110522062920AATtTNW
[18:45] <PwnusMaximus> oh ok
[18:45] <PwnusMaximus> ill try that
[18:46] <TrevInc> hope this answers your question!
[18:46] <dr_willis> PwnusMaximus,  that url given have screenshots that show you how
[18:46] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | PwnusMaximus
[18:46] <PwnusMaximus> im buring the 11.04 minimal cd now
[18:46] <olx69> dr_wills: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=137c4f5168313948&hl=en :(
[18:47] <dr_willis> olx69,  not for 64bit?
[18:47] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,  cool,   it is NOT a live cd  but much easier to deal with and very fast
[18:47] <nimbiotics> TrevInc, THX!
[18:47] <PwnusMaximus> so will it "boot" into a shell?
[18:47] <olx69> dr_wills: it seems :(
[18:47] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,  once installed it will boot into Unity  yes.. and be completely up to date
[18:48] <PwnusMaximus> coz_: i mean when i stick in the cd what will it look like clone zilla?
[18:48] <olx69> dr_wills: even more http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=7f535ed8481afea0&hl=en
[18:48] <tjiggi_fo> PwnusMaximus, no, it is not a live CD
[18:49] <coz_> PwnusMaximus, I dont use clonezilla sorry,, so not sure how that looks ,, but it is not a live cd  but easy to follow through with
[18:49] <PwnusMaximus> ok, burn almost done
[18:49] <coz_> PwnusMaximus,   when you restart  you may get a flashing cursor  , just hit enter
[18:50] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: When you stick it in, you'll see blue screen of death. Select options and whatnot.
[18:50] <PwnusMaximus> Lasers: thanks, here goes nothin!
[18:50] <coz_> Lasers,  mine is always purple :)
[18:50] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: Text-based installer -- So it's not graphical. :)
[18:51] <ezrafree> hello
[18:51] <ezrafree> what can i do if suddenly my icons in the bar at the top of gnome are no longer displaying?
[18:51] <WorkGroup> German Channel?
[18:51] <PwnusMaximus> Lasers: as a side note how do you like unity?
[18:51] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: Dunno. I never tried it. :P
[18:51] <tjk11> can someoone show me an example what u would imput into terminal to use unshield on data1.cab
[18:52] <coz_> ezrafree,  is this 11.04  Unity?
[18:52] <PwnusMaximus> Lasers: arnt you running 11.04?
[18:52] <ezrafree> yes 11.04
[18:52] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: Nope. I'm no.
[18:52] <ezrafree> no not Unity though, gnome
[18:52] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: Gnome 2.30.
[18:52] <wonka_> arabic channel, please
[18:52] <PwnusMaximus> im mostly a mac person and ive heard its a lot like mac
[18:53] <coz_> ezrafree,  ok right click the upper panel ,,, Add to panel... you want the indiactor applet
[18:53] <PwnusMaximus> ok guys, splash screen is u[
[18:53] <PwnusMaximus> up
[18:53] <tjk11> can someoone show me an example what u would input into terminal to use unshield on data1.cab
[18:53] <escott> !ar
[18:53] <invlpg[1]> how i view all the open windows on ubuntu unity, like the task bars in gnome? no one knows? o:
[18:53] <coz_> ezrafree,  unless you mean  when a window is opened and it is not showing in the panel
[18:53] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: It is trying to be -- but it's still too early to mimic OSX.
[18:53] <escott> !sa | wonka_
[18:53] <el_ruso> Hi, i have a HP LaserJet 1020, when i try to print with OpenOffice my Ubuntu 10.10 restarts, why?
[18:54] <coz_> el_ruso,  not sure,, does it print well otherwise?
[18:54] <webpower> hi
[18:54] <el_ruso> coz_: i'm using a custom format
[18:54] <tjk11> how would you use the unshield command to extract a .cab file?
[18:54] <webpower> how to remove the letter icon near time in natty?
[18:55] <PwnusMaximus> Lasers: im not sure if people in the linux community hate macOSX for being proprietary but on a usability standpoint i much prefer it to windows
[18:55] <coz_> el_ruso,  what I mean is,, can you print in another application,, even gedit  , withouth this happening?
[18:55] <tjk11> how would you use the unshield command to extract a .cab file in terminal?
[18:55] <escott> tjk11, have you checked the man page, it usually has examples at the bottom
[18:56] <el_ruso> coz_: yes, i can
[18:56] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: I don't like OSX. In fact, I do have one myself.  However, I think if you're new to Linux (from Mac Background) -- You may hate Unity. (But that's just me).
[18:56] <green91> pwnusmaximus: from an opennes standpoint, its more constricted than even windows.
[18:56] <escott> el_ruso, do you get a full restart or does the gui crash?
[18:56] <Lasers> PwnusMaximus: I mean -- I don't hate*
[18:56] <tjk11> escott, what is a man page?
[18:56] <Lasers> !man | tjk11
[18:56] <Heinz_L_Maennche> hi, using recordmydesktop i run into the problem that the background will not redraw (only in the video) when closing a window (so even it was closed u can see it in the recording) what can i do?
[18:57] <escott> tjk11, in a terminal type "man unshield"
[18:57] <PwnusMaximus> tjk11: a page made of men
[18:57] <pietro10> Hi. I'm trying to remount my flash drive so I can run Linux binaries stored on it (I use it thold my source code) and sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush /dev/sdb1 /media/FD doesn't apply the execute bits. What's going on? Thanks
[18:57] <tjk11> ok thanks
[18:57] <pietro10> It did work before 11.04
[18:57] <el_ruso> coz_: usually is a gui crash
[18:57] <PwnusMaximus> tjk11: :) actualy is a "manual" page. with instructions on how to use a perticular program
[18:58] <tjk11> thanks im new to terminal
[18:58] <PwnusMaximus> tjk11: for example "man cd" would invoke the "MANual" for the command "CD" and tell you all about it. (CD stands for Change Directroy btw)
[18:58] <coz_> el_ruso,   then not sure ,,, I dont use open office at all,, I will back off from this one,, it may be openoffice  if the printer works with other applications , and being an HP  I would assume it is  or should be working
[18:58] <dr_willis> actually  some commands are 'built in' to bash or other shells and may not have a man page.. :)
[18:58] <tjk11> ok that makes sense thank you!
[18:59] <escott> PwnusMaximus, cd is a bash builtin there is no man page. the best example is man man
[18:59] <dr_willis> man cd -> bad example....    man ls --> good example
[18:59] <dr_willis> :)
[18:59] <el_ruso> that's what i think coz_
[18:59] <DrSlony> Help, I wrote a guide where I explained what to do to get a package called LCMS version 2 from a ppa called dasprid, the command is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dasprid/rawtherapee && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liblcms2-dev". I tested and it works fine in Ubuntu 11.04. Do I need to change anything for it to work in 10.04?
[18:59] <PwnusMaximus> tjk11: to learn more about MAN, type "man man"
[18:59] <dr_willis> man man  -> seems just weird..
[18:59] <el_ruso> thank you coz_
[18:59] <PwnusMaximus> escott: really? i thought there was..
[18:59] <PwnusMaximus> escott: my bad
[18:59] <dr_willis> man more   that way you learn about the man pager.. more.. and what keys it uses..
[19:00] <leeeroooy_J> DrSlony: one thing I'd check is dependencies
[19:00] <dr_willis> ot was is it 'less' these days..
[19:00] <coz_> el_ruso,   open a terminal,,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    <-- that will update  everything ,, see if there is an office update  during that
[19:00] <Lasers> DrSlony: I don't know if 10.04 have "add-apt-repository" -- I can't remember it. :(
[19:00] <DevilSolution> hi
[19:00] <el_ruso> good idea coz_
[19:01] <Lasers> DrSlony: You want to install 10.04 on VBox -- Test it from there -- Yourself.
[19:01] <DrSlony> Lasers I'm not going to install 10.04 in vbox just to test a simple command... thats why I came here
[19:01] <DrSlony> Any Ubuntu 10.04 users here? How does one add a ppa from a terminal?
[19:01] <Gjyvm> for some reason firefox crashes when I visit www.gsick.com, and only when I visit that site, I've been using that site for a long time and this has been happenng since I upgraded to 11.04, what could it be?
[19:02] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: what version of firefox?
[19:02] <genii-around> DrSlony: sudo add-apt-repository ppa-name-here
[19:02] <IdleOne> DrSlony: sudo add-apt-repository
[19:02]  * genii-around slides IdleOne a coffee
[19:02] <Lasers> Gjyvm: Could be the new Firefox 5. Random thought.
[19:02] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, 3.5
[19:02]  * IdleOne accepts and hands genii-around a fin for his troubles
[19:03] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: re you using 3.5 on ubuntu 11.04?
[19:03] <MeGUI> hi
[19:03] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, thats how i roll
[19:03] <DrSlony> genii-around IdleOne are those 10.04 compatble?
[19:03] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: may i ask you when you installed ubuntu 11.04?
[19:03] <IdleOne> DrSlony: should be yes.
[19:04] <DrSlony> IdleOne do you use 10.04?
[19:04] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, couple of days ago
[19:04] <willvarfar> how do you downgrade all packages from a ppa so they are all at a version before some point in time?
[19:04] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm : and you installed 3.5 personally?
[19:04] <escott> !info ppa-purge | willvarfar
[19:05] <IdleOne> DrSlony: not currently
[19:05] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, yes
[19:05] <xmd> hello
[19:05] <DrSlony> Could I trouble any 10.04 users to see whether "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dasprid/rawtherapee" works?
[19:05] <xmd> Dr_willis:  im back, i have problems insalling
[19:06] <IdleOne> DrSlony: if that doesn't work you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the deb http: line to that file
[19:06] <xmd> ubuntu let me install from the flash drive to the external HDD
[19:06] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: ok, does that site use flash or something?
[19:06] <xmd> it goes throughe veything correctly, and even says install complete, and then says restart
[19:06] <xmd> it restarts the system but it doesnt boot ubuntu
[19:06] <xmd> just comes up Error: file not found grub rescue>
[19:06] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, i dont think so, but i cant be sure
[19:06] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: try visit without flash, does it still crash?
[19:07] <xmd> error: file not found grub rescue>?
[19:07] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, yes
[19:07] <DrSlony> IdleOne ok, thank you
[19:07] <leeeroooy_J> xmd: did you change your boot order to boot from the external HDD?
[19:07] <escott> xmd, do you know what drive the bootloader was installed to?
[19:07] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: try disabling javascript, does it still crash?
[19:07] <xmd> yes
[19:07] <IdleOne> xmd: you need to install grub to the MBR of the HD
[19:08] <IdleOne> !grub2
[19:08] <PythonSnake> help
[19:08] <oCean> DrSlony: that ppa does not seem to conaint packages for lucid
[19:08] <oCean> *contain
[19:08] <willvarfar> ubottu, not purge; simply set all the packages to be before the most recent update which happened around the 23rd
[19:08] <xmd> IdleOne: install grub to the MBR of the HD?
[19:08] <PythonSnake> I'm owner and can't set as executable
[19:08] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, yep
[19:08] <mads-> Can anyone tell me why google chrome looks to /usr/lib/sun-java-6.0.22 directly and how can I change that link? I have a newer version of java installed, which chrome keeps asking for
[19:09] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: so it crashes with both flash and javascript disabled? what about disabling images too?
[19:09] <willvarfar> escott, I don't mean purge a ppa; I mean downgrade to versions in the ppa that are before some recent point in time
[19:09] <IdleOne> xmd: yes, you will need to boot from the small usb drive again
[19:09] <xmd> Idleone: grub2?
[19:09] <MadGirl> it has been said that grub2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[19:09] <escott> willvarfar, i dont know any easy way to do that. i would check the apt logs to see what was installed when and then manually downgrade to the older versions manually
[19:09] <webpower> how to remove the letter icon near time in natty?
[19:10] <xmd> ok, what do i do after i boot from the smaller usb again?  run ubuntu live or install again?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> olx69,  ' about:plugins ' in the addressbar ..anyway did you install flashplugin-installer ?
[19:10] <IdleOne> xmd: correct, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:10] <Gjyvm> leeeroooy_J, already tried that
[19:10] <leeeroooy_J> Gjyvm: with no results? thats some odd problem you re having, i assume you cleared your cache too?
[19:10] <PythonSnake> how to set permission with terminal?
[19:10] <IdleOne> xmd: run live and follow directions on that link I jujst gave you.
[19:11] <IdleOne> just*
[19:11] <xmd> dude
[19:11] <xmd> those directions are like 50 pages long?
[19:11] <Dephenom> Is it possible to integrate Skype and/or xChat into the Messaging Menu?
[19:11] <escott> xmd, it contains multiple methods
[19:11] <oCean> willvarfar: PPA's are unsupported 3rd party repositories. We cannot 'promise' that older versions are available. Having said that, to install a specific version of a package, you can use command like this:  sudo apt-get install zip=3.0-2build1  (to install that specific version of zip)
[19:12] <escott> !permissions | PythonSnake use chmod
[19:12] <xmd> escott: im just in awe, why do i not already have grub2?
[19:12] <IdleOne> xmd: because at install you didn't install it to the correct place
[19:12]  * jiltdil is python have uses these days?
[19:12] <xmd> Idleone: oh, i see
[19:12] <tjk11> Syntax:
[19:12] <tjk11> unshield [-c COMPONENT] [-d DIRECTORY] [-D LEVEL] [-g GROUP] [-GhlOrV] c|g|l|t|x CABFILE
[19:12] <escott> xmd, sounds like what happended was grub was installed to the mbr of the drive physically in the machine but is looking for the usb, ever time you boot the usb appears in a different spot
[19:13] <tjk11> can someone give me example of this Syntax:
[19:13] <tjk11> unshield [-c COMPONENT] [-d DIRECTORY] [-D LEVEL] [-g GROUP] [-GhlOrV] c|g|l|t|x CABFILE
[19:13] <xmd> escott: there is no drive physically in the machine?
[19:13] <escott> xmd, so you need to follow the "lost grub after installing windows" instructions to put grub onto the usb drive
[19:14] <tjk11> unshield [-c COMPONENT] [-d DIRECTORY] [-D LEVEL] [-g GROUP] [-GhlOrV] c|g|l|t|x CABFILE
[19:14] <IdleOne> escott: he is booting from Live USB to install onto external USB
[19:14] <xmd> oh ok, so I installed ubuntu from a small flash drive to another 350GB external HDD USB drive
[19:14] <IdleOne> escott: the install is done but yeah he needs to put grub on the right /dev/sdX
[19:14] <xmd> i will tip a $BTC if you help me
[19:15] <IdleOne> hah
[19:15] <xmd> how do i just get the drug file wher ei need it?
[19:15] <xmd> *grub file
[19:15] <escott> xmd, the install you are describing is a bit unusual im pretty sure it couldn't figure out the right drive. boot the live usb
[19:16] <escott> xmd, then figure out what /dev/sdX is the external harddrive, then use the chroot instructions in !grub to run grub-install /dev/sdX
[19:16] <xmd> ok im booting the slamm usb live, do I go into ubuntu live or ubuntu install?
[19:16] <escott> xmd, ubuntu live
[19:17] <escott> xmd, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot to chroot yourself into the external drive
[19:17] <xmd> ok im in live....how do i figure out what /dev/sdX is the externalHDD
[19:17] <xmd> ok...
[19:17] <escott> xmd, use the disk utility
[19:17] <xmd> desk utility is the link ?
[19:18] <escott> xmd, no there is a gui tool called disk utility which tells about the disks (im assuming its on the live cd)
[19:18] <escott> xmd, you could also use gparted
[19:18] <xmd> yes im inn it
[19:18] <pietro10> Hi. I'm trying to remount my flash drive so I can run Linux binaries stored on it (I use it thold my source code) and sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush /dev/sdb1 /media/FD doesn't apply the execute bits. What's going on? It did work before 11.04 Thanks
[19:18] <xmd> im in disk utility....
[19:18] <willvarfar> oCean, thx; is there a way to do it bulk for all packages?
[19:19] <pietro10> what Disk Utility
[19:19] <PythonSnake> Hi
[19:19] <pietro10> all I know is the OS X Disk Utility
[19:19] <PythonSnake> How to use a command as a prgram to run something ?
[19:19] <beige> Unity & Gnome 3, I tried to use both and hate them. Am I missing something?
[19:20] <xmd> escott: im following the directions in the link
[19:20] <coz_> beige,  probably not...
[19:20] <escott> xmd, find your external drive and then on the right below the "Volumes" it should say what device it is.
[19:20] <coz_> PythonSnake,  which program do you want to run?
[19:20] <beige> coz_, I understand how to use them but having to bring up that dash in g3 to change applications is annoying
[19:21] <oCean> willvarfar: I never heard of a tool that could do that in bulk. In /var/log/apt/history.log you can find your recent updates though
[19:21] <coz_> beige,  the "trend" towards an appliance interface,, image drivern menus instead of list driven menus,, has thrown many people off balance
[19:21] <xmd> escott can i private chat you for a sec?
[19:21] <willvarfar> oCean, thx
[19:22] <xmd> escott: I am following the directions in the link, I also have the Disk Utility, the directions in the link become compliated after step 4
[19:22] <beige> coz_indeed
[19:22] <coz_> beige,  you can just use classic gnome in 11.04  or in gnome3  the fallback mode
[19:22] <pietro10> or kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu studio (GNOME2 now, xfce later), etc.
[19:23] <pietro10> or another distro -- find whichever is right for you =P
[19:23] <pietro10> brb
[19:23] <coz_> beige,  gnome3 in fallback mode is pretty nice  and compiz runs fine but for a few plugins,, mainly be cause gnome3  no longer uses desktop windows
[19:24] <coz_> beige,  that can be overcome by using the wallpaper plugin
[19:26] <coz_> beige,  the biggest complaint I am hearing about gnome3, are the lack of settings,, many are either hidden or removed
[19:28] <beige> coz_ I know a few who have moved to Mint as they kept the classic gnome interface as defacto
[19:29] <coz_> beige,  gnome3 isnt that bad ,, especially in fall back mode,, at least compiz works,, the lack of settings is often a sore point and a " not so smart" move in my opinion
[19:30] <sysop-work> hey I have messed up the sudoers file and I dont know the root pw. what can I do?
[19:31] <escott> sysop-work, livecd to fix sudoers file
[19:33] <cdavis> How can I change my cpu mhz in natty?
[19:33] <cdavis> I have an i7 which could run at 2.67 but /proc/cpus says they are running at 1199
[19:34] <escott> cdavis, its likely the power throttling you may be able to make it more aggressive with some files in /sys
[19:35] <webpower> how to remove the letter icon near time in natty?
[19:35] <fairuz> afaik, when it has nothing to do it will do frequency scaling (lower the freq to minimize power usage)
[19:35] <trism> webpower: it is the indicator-messages package, uninstalling it will remove the envelope
[19:36] <trism> webpower: you may need to log out/back in to see the change
[19:36] <sisker> Anyone know how to get ATI driver version from command prompt, using the proprietary 11.6 drivers, but don't know how to see that without opening up CCC app.
[19:36] <c|oneman> where are the desktop effects in 11.04?
[19:37] <coz_> cjaredrun,  Unity or classic?
[19:37] <sysop-work> escott, thanks thats the conclusion I reached as well.
[19:38] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[19:39] <webpower> trism, ok, thanks
[19:39] <webpower> another thing
[19:39] <webpower> when i log in, it asks me to type the key logger password
[19:39] <webpower> it's boring :\
[19:39] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[19:39] <BryanRuiz> im trying to enable the partner repository, what is the tool i need to install to do that?
[19:40] <ubuntu_noob> sec_goat?
[19:41] <Dcite> BryanRuiz: Synatic Package manager -> Repositories -> 2nd tab?
[19:41] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:42] <BryanRuiz> thx Dcite
[19:43] <uragan> hi
[19:44] <DMKitsch> hia
[19:44] <DMKitsch> hi
[19:44] <uragan> how unpack ddd.rar into ubuntu ?
[19:44] <uragan> propperly
[19:45] <DMKitsch> iv'e just installed PHPMyAdmin, how do i access it online?
[19:45] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[19:45] <uragan> how extract files from .rar into ubuntu
[19:45] <fairuz> uragan: unrar
[19:45] <escott> !info unrar | uragan
[19:45] <BryanRuiz> DMKitsch: read the tutorial by googling ubuntu phpmyadmin and then visit http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[19:45] <uragan> oi
[19:46] <uragan> i know about that
[19:46] <escott> raven, arecord in alsa-utils is a real minimal recorder for alsa
[19:46] <uragan> see my quest attantivly
[19:46] <uragan> who?
[19:47] <fairuz> DMKitsch: You can make it online if your PC is accessible from outside. (e.g you have a fixed IP)
[19:47] <trism> uragan: installing unrar allows Archive Manager (file-roller) to extract them, or you can use: unrar e filename.rar; from the command line (if that was your second question)
[19:47] <DMKitsch> ook
[19:47] <io> uragan: '$ sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar ddd.rar'
[19:48] <io> or whatever options unrar requires
[19:48] <DMKitsch> BryanRuiz i followed this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[19:48] <wiggmpk> can anyone pastebin their /etc/default/grub
[19:49] <uragan> from terminal i do not whant
[19:49] <DMKitsch> BryanRuiz it said how to install it but it has not appeared in the www folder :/
[19:49] <raven> escott, ok but how to route the souncard out to arecord?
[19:49] <uragan> may be easy way for unpacking?
[19:49] <io> uragan: then install 'unrar' through a GUI package manager and then use Archive Manager to extract it
[19:49] <fairuz> uragan: That's is easy, 2 line command
[19:49] <uragan> without terminal
[19:50] <escott> raven, ok sorry didnt read that closely enough. im not really sure how to do that.
[19:50] <fairuz> install unrar, then right clock on the archive then you can unpack it that way
[19:50] <Michiellll-lapto> can anyone tell me how to get menus at the top&bottom instead of having this fancy bar on the side?
[19:50] <io> the Terminal method is alot easier, though
[19:50] <shockrates> hey
[19:50] <SubCool> i am having a problem with my phone. WHen i plug it in, i receive this error. [79185.320244] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[19:50] <fairuz> Michiellll-lapto: Use Ubuntu Classic
[19:50] <uragan> waid
[19:50] <raven> escott, hm but tnx
[19:50] <uragan> i trying
[19:50] <wonka_> this is such a weird error
[19:51] <Michiellll-lapto> fairuz, i tried that but it was grey :S
[19:51] <nestea> Is it possible for linux to have two connections open at the same time (say eth0 to stream to my ps3) and wlan0 for my inet connection
[19:51] <nestea> I don't wanna have to choose between watching my movies, and playing on the inet
[19:52] <escott> nestea, yes, the routing is the tricky bit
[19:52] <shockrates> how is the last ubuntu codenamed?
[19:52] <fairuz> DMKitsch: Do you have /var/www ?
[19:52] <nestea> okay, mind helping me figure out how to do this exactly? cause thats what im trying to do w/ Knetwork manager
[19:52] <io> !codenames | shockrates
[19:52] <nestea> (i dont mind using something else if it is required)
[19:53] <Michiellll-lapto> fairuz, last time it said i didnt have the hardware to  use unity and it was like that, i reinstalled and now i have this
[19:53] <Michiellll-lapto> i dont like it
[19:53] <Michiellll-lapto> but i dont want it to be gray
[19:53] <nestea> or atleast point me to a guide?
[19:54] <escott> nestea, a few more specifics are needed, exactly what are you trying to accomplish.
[19:54] <nestea> okay, well I just wanna stream say my movies/music from my laptop here to my ps3
[19:54] <daniel__> if i am compressing files what is the best format to compress in .zip .tar.gz ect
[19:54] <nestea> but I still wanna be able to say go on facebook while said streaming is going on
[19:54] <wiggmpk> can anyone give me a pastebin on their default/untouched /etc/default/grub please
[19:55] <nestea> wlan0 is my inet connection while eth0 is going through my router to hook up to the ps3
[19:55] <pythonirc101> I'm running ubuntu server , am new to ubuntu server...I've run centos before. Is it ok to put an ubuntu server with ssh open on the web? Is there any security issues i should look into before i do this? Just ssh port. Later on i plan to open http port, but not yet.
[19:55] <DMKitsch> fairuz yes i do have var/www
[19:56] <DMKitsch> fairuz i just make a link from the phpmyadmin to the directory so now it is working but i get a #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[19:56] <escott> !best | daniel__ if it is for other unix systems tar.* is often preferred
[19:57] <uragan> UNRAR 3.90 beta 2 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Alexander Roshal
[19:57] <uragan> /tmp/Dic.WPA.rar is not RAR archive
[19:57] <uragan> whats are
[19:57] <fairuz> DMKitsch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[19:57] <uragan> its exectly rar archive
[19:57] <DMKitsch> #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server is it an incorrect password error?
[19:57] <uragan> why i cant extract
[19:58] <uragan> a
[19:58] <uragan> ku ku
[19:58] <uragan> ok tommorow
[19:58] <daniel__> escott, ok first of all it isnt a poll  am asking witch would be best for my ubuntu as there are so many options i am looking to make the file as small as i can so what is the best for that
[19:58] <uragan> i go to sleep
[19:58] <uragan> by
[19:58] <uragan> 66
[19:59] <Guest33871> 'lo
[20:00] <nestea> daniel__, well .tar.gz is actually very good but if you really wanna do it i've noticed a slight difference between .tar.gz and tar.bz2
[20:00] <escott> daniel__, the highest compression is probably lzma. not sure if lzma does directories, but you could tar and then lzma the file. see what wikipedia says about compression programs
[20:00] <nestea> which is bunzip2
[20:00] <nestea> true, didn't even consider lzma
[20:00] <daniel__> ok thanks thats what i was looking for
[20:00] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[20:02] <nestea> escott, know where I might be able to find  guide or something that could help me with my question?
[20:03] <escott> nestea, i think what you need is either samba or ftp or something
[20:03] <escott> nestea, its a question of what your ps3 supports
[20:03] <nestea> =\
[20:04] <xmd> I am a new user of ubunut and have i spent the past 24 hours trying to get ubuntu to allow me to install the fricken program on my external hardrive
[20:04] <nestea> hm
[20:04] <wabi> can i say "pussyfucking" here without beeing banned ? smile
[20:04] <nestea> i've tried that
[20:04] <xmd> I finally successfully installed in on my externalHDD and nwo it won boot
[20:04] <xmd> when i boot it says error: file not found.
[20:04] <escott> if you install dhcp-server on your ubuntu system and configure it to serve ip addresses in 192.168.2.* on eth0
[20:04] <xmd> grub rescue>
[20:04] <nestea> i guess i just dont know what im doing (as another thing im on a mobile hot spot for inet, and it doesn't have file sharing like a normal router hence why im going this route)
[20:04] <wabi> wow..an ubuntu help channel :) without girls..gg
[20:05] <DMKitsch> fairuz THANKS! i got it working now
[20:05] <fairuz> DMKitsch: no problem
[20:05] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[20:06] <DMKitsch> fairuz i have 3 databases, are they all mandatory (i just set it all up)
[20:06] <faz_> is there a way i can get info on the packages in apt-get w/o having to install them first? (for instance: there are 24 mysql-* packages, how do i know which i want to install?)
[20:06] <fairuz> DMKitsch: I normally just let them
[20:06] <LjL> fairuz: apt-cache show packagename
[20:06] <DMKitsch> fairuz ok thank you for the help :)
[20:06] <escott> nestea, i think what you need is dhcp-server on ubuntu serving 192.168.2.*. samba on ubuntu serving folders, maybe also dnsmasq if you want ps3 to connect to the internet through the ubuntu
[20:07] <fairuz> LjL not for me =)
[20:07] <LjL> fairuz: oh sorry
[20:07] <xmd> can anyone help me as to why i cannot boot ubuntu off my external hdd?
[20:07] <LjL> faz_: apt-cache show packagename
[20:07] <nestea> yeah i dont want my ps3 on the inet through this machine
[20:07] <nestea> I could just connect it to the inet through the hotspot if i wanted it on the inet
[20:09] <jjovereats> Hello!
[20:09] <nestea> Hi
[20:09] <Manorie> anyone software programmer living in London, need advice?
[20:09] <oCean> Manorie: if you have an ubuntu support question, just ask
[20:10] <DMKitsch> bye bye everyone
[20:10] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[20:10] <mguy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04-destkop-amd64.iso in VirtualBox 4.0.8, and the installer tells me I don't have a 64-bit chip
[20:10] <jjovereats> My Tgz backups aren't working, should I use md5 to test? It says /home/me/Videos/somefilename.dv-avi: File shrank by "apparently whole size $(\`)", padding w/ zeros.
[20:10] <mguy> I have 64-bit virtual machines running so I don't know why it would say that
[20:10] <nestea> escott: dhcp is being handled by the router which I have setup for the 192.168.1.80 area
[20:11] <mguy> jjovereats: why woudl you gzip an AVI file
[20:11] <jjovereats> Backup to miniDV tape using dvbackup
[20:11] <jjovereats> s/woudl/would/g Correction contributed by Jack J
[20:12] <nestea> im just trying to set up my laptop to handle the eth0 connection to talk to my ps3 so I can stream movies/music to it and then still get on facebook w/o having to go into my network manager, interrupting said movies/music just to check up on my FB
[20:12] <nestea> but getting on the internet requires a constant connection to my wireless internet connection
[20:12] <jjovereats> nestea: the setup should ALREADY be working.
[20:12] <wiggmpk> can someone tell me how to regenerate the default /etc/default/grub or pastebin an untouched copy so I can compare my changes (trying to work backwards and lost some info in the process)
[20:12] <nestea> but its not
[20:13] <oCean> mguy: you need to check whether your cpu has VT capabilities. Run   egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[20:13] <jjovereats> mguy: I am backing it up to another PC
[20:13] <nestea> right now, cause im using my wireless i can't get my ps3 to read that I have my eth0 hooked up to my laptop too
[20:13] <mguy> oCean: I didn't select Ubuntu (64-bit) when I created the VM
[20:13] <escott> nestea, right ps3 --eth0--> ubuntu --wlan0--> router. you need dhcp on the ubuntu binding to eth0 to serve ips to ps3 (or you configure both ubuntu and ps3 as static on a different subdomain than the one served by router)
[20:14] <nestea> think I just got confused lol
[20:14] <escott> nestea, so if router serves 192.168.1.* serve 192.168.2.* between ubuntu and ps3
[20:14] <brunos> wts
[20:14] <oCean> mguy: even if your host os runs 64 bit, that does not mean your guests can
[20:14] <oCean> mguy: oh wait, other guests do run 64 bit?
[20:14] <xmd> can anyone please help me with my i cant boot ubuntu from my external HDD
[20:15] <nestea> yes
[20:15] <jjovereats> xmd: NEI: Not Enough Info. The opposite of TMI.
[20:15] <mguy> oCean: Yes I have other 64-bit VMs running, I fixed the problem
[20:15] <nestea> but my mobile hot spot is different than my router
[20:15] <oCean> mguy: oh, nice
[20:15] <wiggmpk> xmd: does your bios recognize the external HDD? what media are you using to connect said HDD?
[20:15] <nestea> sec
[20:15] <Luxe> Do you guys know of any way I could get all of my music off my iPod touch via Ubuntu?
[20:15] <nicofs> Is there someone around who is familiar with the Diagram Editor?
[20:15] <nestea> installing the server
[20:16] <jjovereats> 600ms lag here! Need help with t3h backup I'm doing. It's erroring.
[20:16] <xmd> jjovereats:  I have installed ubuntu to my external (usb) HDD... I installed it from a live boot on another 4GB flash drive.  The installation on the external HDD was successful, but now the external HDD will not boot
[20:16] <xmd> when i boot it gives me error: file not found grub rescue>
[20:16] <Luxe> -.-
[20:16]  * Luxe sits.
[20:16] <mguy> What's the error?
[20:16] <nestea> okay
[20:16] <escott> nestea, the important bit is to make sure your gateway is always the router
[20:16] <jjovereats> Interesting. Have you tried installing grub?
[20:16] <Luxe> Do any of you guys know how I could sync my iPod with Ubuntu?
[20:16] <xmd> yse, i just spent an hour isntalling grub
[20:16] <xmd> with the help of a very knowledgable member
[20:16] <nestea> k
[20:16] <xmd> the installation of grub on the external hdd did nothing
[20:17] <xmd> even when i go to my boot menu and pick the external HDD, it still give me the error
[20:17] <nestea> but thats not changing the problem that KNetwork manager isn't letting me have two active connections at once instead of just one
[20:17] <xmd> the hdd had no problem booting a live verison las night
[20:17] <xmd> but now cannot boot the full installed version
[20:17] <mguy> jjovereats: what is your error
[20:17] <xmd> this is very frustarting
[20:17] <wiggmpk> !enter | xmd
[20:17] <xmd> I am a new user and am interested in using ubuntu
[20:17] <azv4> anyone ever setup a helpdesk program?
[20:17] <xmd> ok sorry,
[20:17] <jjovereats> mguy: It's that the file shrunk by it's full size. WT?
[20:17] <wiggmpk> xmd: LIVE CD's do not use HDD to operate
[20:18] <RichardS> external HDD arn't meant to run operating systems, their meant for storage. Maybe you should use a internal HD instead.
[20:18] <xmd> wiggmpk: what do you meant?
[20:18] <xmd> i dont have any internal hdds
[20:18] <RichardS> you dont have a internal hard drive?
[20:18] <wiggmpk> xmd: when you boot a live CD, it is totally operating from RAM and the CD, doesnt ever touch the HDD untill you install it
[20:18] <xmd> RichardS: so your solution is to totally just forget i ever tried using an external HDD?
[20:18] <raven> how to record soundcard output?
[20:19] <nestea> my mobile hotspot is not connected to the router in any way shape or form
[20:19] <xmd> well i installed it on the external HDD
[20:19] <wiggmpk> xmd: how is the external HDD connected? External SATA / USB ?
[20:19] <xmd> USB
[20:19] <jjovereats> The archive is UNCOMPRESSED. how do I specify DO NOT COMPRESS on the CMD line.
[20:19] <Luxe> -.-
[20:19]  * Luxe was totally ignored.
[20:19]  * jjovereats was ALSO ignored.
[20:20] <Luxe> Srsly.
[20:20] <wiggmpk> xmd: what type of installation? Basic? Raid? All information given can help anyone better diagnose the problem.. what were the results of the GRUB installation when you installed it?
[20:20] <antihero> Any idea why my DVD drive isn't showing up?
[20:20] <mguy> jjovereats: I bet your script is bad, can you pastebin it along with your error?
[20:20] <Luxe> o.o
[20:21] <nestea>  k, well I got dhcp-server installed..
[20:21] <Luxe> Do any of you have any idea how I can get my music off my iPod touch via Ubuntu?
[20:21] <antihero> My /dev/cdrom seems to be symlinked to /dev/sr0
[20:21] <jjovereats> mguy: it's no script. it's a 1liner.
[20:21] <mguy> Luxe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[20:22] <mguy> jjovereats: What's the line?
[20:22] <wiggmpk> Luxe: there are several media players that support ipod or ipad syncing plugins
[20:22] <xmd> wiggmpk: everything went perfect witht he grubinstalltion, it says installtion successful.... as for what type of instalation... I installed ubuntu 11.04 onto my external HDD from the smaller live usb
[20:22] <Luxe> I'm not looking to sync them per say.
[20:23] <Luxe> I'm looking to actually get the music OFF.
[20:23] <jjovereats> tar -c -f any-name@any-pc-can-go-here-desktop.local:/home/$HOME/backup27062011.tar /home/$HOME/ /website/ /gopher/ /etc/squid/ /etc/pygopherd/ /etc/apache2/ /etc/havp/
[20:23] <wiggmpk> Luxe: unless you previously sync the ipod to the computer, doing so would be illegal
[20:23] <Pici> jjovereats: tar has no compression.
[20:23] <sysop-work> how can I mount a perc5 from the boot cd?
[20:23] <jjovereats> Pici: But it says it shrank the files.
[20:24] <xmd> wiggmpk: everything went perfect witht he grubinstalltion, it says installtion successful.... as for what type of instalation... I installed ubuntu 11.04 onto my external HDD from the smaller live usb
[20:24] <wabi> mhhh.. is there someone please that can help me out.. on /nickserv and recovering password ?
[20:24] <mguy> jjovereats: it's just a notification message
[20:24] <Pici> jjovereats: What exactly did it say?
[20:24] <LjL> wabi: ask #freenode
[20:24] <wiggmpk> xmd: how did you install grub? terminal via the livecd? are you sure you installed it to the right /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[20:24] <jjovereats> Things like: tar: /home/jack/Year 6 backup/Jack J/PAc/PortableApps/FocusWriterPortable/Data/FocusWriterData/Themes/Images/1d41b584f4f46d103c284457ef44e25c0e5fdff2.bmp: File shrank by 1366326 bytes; padding with zeros
[20:24] <wabi> thanx, LjL
[20:25] <oCean> jjovereats: I've seen that when tar'ing files in corrupted filesystems, sparse files (such as virtual machine disks with space reserved) and pseudo filesystems as /proc
[20:25] <jjovereats> Should I remount R/O and run an FSCK?
[20:25] <Luxe> wiggmpk, -.- I bought all the music from CDs -.-
[20:25] <wiggmpk> luxe: then re-rip them to your hard-drive..
[20:26] <wabi> and i still like to say "pussy" LjL ;) even if its not topic of this channel ;).. grin
[20:26] <wiggmpk> luxe: transfering music from a portable device to another PC without the music already being on that PC is file sharing and illegal and wont be helped here
[20:26] <Luxe> -.0
[20:26]  * Luxe laughs.
[20:26] <samuel> holaa
[20:26] <xmd> terminal via the live CD  yes i installed it to the correct /dev/sdb
[20:26] <Luxe> Like anything in Ubuntu it legal -.-
[20:26] <wiggmpk> luxe: is FOSS why dont you google it
[20:26] <DMKitsch> what permissions are attached to ///var/www
[20:26] <samuel> holllaaaa
[20:27] <Pici> DMKitsch: What does ls say? ls -ld /var/www/
[20:27] <DMKitsch> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-06-27 19:53 /var/www/
[20:27] <DMKitsch> does that mean my current user has no access?
[20:28] <wiggmpk> Luxe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software so you can understand what ubuntu is and stands for
[20:28] <DMKitsch> user of 'Dave'
[20:28] <Pici> DMKitsch: Correct.
[20:28] <DMKitsch> ok so how do i use chmod to set permissions to full for me
[20:28] <HamsterLord|Away> Hello
[20:28] <HamsterLord|Away> I have an ubuntu flash drive
[20:29] <jjovereats> how do i correct these weird errors i am getting
[20:29] <HamsterLord|Away> Can I run ubuntu inside windows from an ubuntu flash drive?
[20:29] <escott> Luxe, if it doesn't present itself as usb mass storage accessible in the file browser, then you have to rely on the apple sync protocol which requires that your computer have a key to that device
[20:29] <DMKitsch> pici i am the administrator
[20:29] <DMKitsch> pici how do i set my permissions to full if i log into root
[20:29] <mbeierl> can anyone point me to a good place for help on recovering trucated files on a VFAT filesystem?  (think echo "" > file.mp3, not rm file.mp3).  fsck.vfat is finding chains of dangling data, and files whose chain length is >0 bytes, but it keeps wanting to truncate the files, not chain them back
[20:30] <Luxe> True escott. Thank your for your help.
[20:30] <escott> !undelete | mbeierl
[20:31] <Pici> DMKitsch: Some may say this is a security risk, but I tend to set ownership to www-data:www-data and then put myself in the www-data group.
[20:31] <DMKitsch> pici ah ok that makes sense :)
[20:31] <aquarat> To Everyone : Has anyone ever had audio regularly shifting pitch on playback ?
[20:31] <DMKitsch> pici thank you for the help
[20:32] <DMKitsch> bbl
[20:32] <Pici> jjovereats: Don't do that ever again.
[20:32] <IdleOne> jjovereats: Please don't nick spam like that
[20:32] <jjovereats> I am weird :S.
[20:32] <aquarat> lol
[20:32] <mbeierl> escott: thanks, but i need something a little deeper, and specifically for an external usb compact flash card, which would be vfat, not ext
[20:33] <jjovereats> im tired of this.
[20:33] <escott> mbeierl, yeah i had hoped it would recommend a vfat undelete command
[20:34] <escott> mbeierl, try testdisk
[20:34] <mbeierl> escott: that's the problem.  This is not a case of undelete, the file does exist, just with no content anymore
[20:35] <mbeierl> escott: urg.  testdisk wants to work with the raw device, not the image of the device I took...
[20:35] <escott> mbeierl, its the same principle though. finding file chains and joining them together. you could use dd to image the disk, loop mount it, and then delete the file, and then see if undelete can get it back
[20:35] <jjovereats> I'm trying to make use of what little bandwidth (11MB/s) I have over Ethernet. And I have to back up my files SOON.
[20:36] <jjovereats> Why are the files shrinking like that?
[20:36] <PythonSnake> Hi
[20:36] <PythonSnake> I switched to gnome
[20:36] <PythonSnake> now my touchpad wont disable when my ms plugged
[20:36] <gagan> hi
[20:36] <PythonSnake> mouse*
[20:36] <guntbert> !enter | PythonSnake
[20:37] <PythonSnake> I checked that option..
[20:37] <gagan> i need help in back track
[20:37] <gagan> how do i connect my usb modem in bt
[20:37] <io> !backtrack | gagan
[20:37] <guntbert> !backtrack | gagan
[20:37] <VCoolio> I only find netbook edition for 10.04; does that mean I should use desktop iso's for notebooks too?
[20:37] <popey> VCoolio: yes
[20:37] <popey> VCoolio: netbook and desktop versions are rolled together now
[20:37] <VCoolio> that's quick :) ok, thanks
[20:37] <guntbert> VCoolio: its just opposed to "server"
[20:38] <VCoolio> I see, no server for me
[20:38] <popey> VCoolio: you want 10.04?
[20:38] <popey> or something newer
[20:38] <PythonSnake> help
[20:38] <VCoolio> no, not really; newer I think, it's for my sister, quite old laptop, what would you recommend popey? no unity I think
[20:39] <popey> VCoolio: i generally recommend new users have 11.04 and unity
[20:39] <VCoolio> my sis is going to be first time user
[20:39] <popey> VCoolio: try a few and decide for yourself / herself
[20:39] <VCoolio> I could boot both live cds and let her choose, no biggy
[20:39] <io> gagan: please don't message me
[20:39] <matt__> ubuntu
[20:39] <PythonSnake> VCoolio: Go to gnome 3 like me
[20:39] <matt__> ooooo
[20:40] <VCoolio> PythonSnake: I did for myself, I'm not going to break 11.04 like that for a first time user, I'm no 24h helpdesk
[20:40] <jjovereats> Hello!!!!!?????
[20:40] <invlpg[1]> how i view all the open windows on ubuntu unity, like the task bars in gnome? no one knows? o:
[20:40] <gagan> how do i connect my usb modem in bt
[20:41] <Pici> jjovereats: hi
[20:41] <robokop_> adghfhgdfh
[20:41] <io> gagan: you've been told multiple times that we don't provide support for backtrack in this channel
[20:42] <jjovereats> Pici: Why is it doing what it is doing?
[20:42] <Pici> jjovereats: What was wrong with the response that oCean gave you?
[20:42] <jjovereats> It was weird.....
[20:43] <Pici> jjovereats: You didn't ask him to explain or anything, it looks like you just ignored it.
[20:43] <jjovereats> Ok. then.
[20:43] <escott> PythonSnake, you can disable it with xinput
[20:44] <jjovereats> oCean, could you please explain your weirdness about FSCHK and the shrank file?
[20:44] <PythonSnake> escott: I want to disable it when my mouse is plugged in
[20:44] <escott> PythonSnake, xinput list to find the device id, xinput list-props to find the enabled property then try to set-prop to 0 for "Enabled"
[20:44] <escott> PythonSnake, not sure how to make it happen automatically on mouse hotplug though
[20:45] <PythonSnake> escott: Configuring it..
[20:45] <oCean> jjovereats: I was just sharing my experience. I've seen such messages when making (tar) backups of for example sparse files. Those are files with 'reserved' space
[20:45] <oCean> jjovereats: but I've also seen that when trying to backup a corrupted file, actually a file on a corrupted filesystem
[20:45] <ice9> I'm trying to file share between windows (xp, vista, and/or win7) with ubuntu, but when I go into the "windows network" it says it can't mont
[20:46] <ice9> can't mount*
[20:46] <spc_in_plc> PythonSnake, Under system settings >> Mouse and Touchpad
[20:46] <jjovereats> oCean, I don't get it. Explain in a PM.
[20:46] <IdleOne> jjovereats: Could you please drop the sarcastic attitude and ask a proper question with details so as to make it easier for you to get the help you need.
[20:46] <oCean> jjovereats: no thank you
[20:47] <jjovereats> :S
[20:49] <jjovereats> oCean, is it indicative of a problem, on a server that has been running for yonks?
[20:50] <PythonSnake> How to set gnome as default ?
[20:50] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. I'm installing Matlab (32bit student version R2010A) on 64 bit Ubuntu 11.04. I cannot seem to figure out how to get the graphical installer to work. (files downloaded from Mathworks website, NOT CD)
[20:51] <oCean> jjovereats: that *could* be, I'm just sharing what I've encountered. It also happens when performing tar backup of /sys and sometimes of already-tarrred-and-gzipped files.
[20:51] <spc_in_plc> econdudeawesome, mmmm did you check permissions?
[20:51] <m4rv1nx> hi
[20:52] <hail2> hello all
[20:52] <jjovereats> oCean, and it happens to AVI's and BMP's.
[20:52] <econdudeawesome> spc_in_plc: I'm installing via sudo
[20:53] <oCean> jjovereats: see if you can restore the file(s) and if they're fine or not. That's really all I can give you right now
[20:54] <jjovereats> Well i'll restart and do an md5summer of the restored file and the original.
[20:55] <spc_in_plc> econdudeawesome, go to matlab folder
[20:55] <muszek> hi... I need to find out make/model of my cd/dvd drive... how do I do it?
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> spc_in_plc: k
[20:56] <spc_in_plc> econdudeawesome, type ./matlab
[20:56] <th0r> muszek: lspci?
[20:56] <econdudeawesome> spc_in_plc: the problem is in the installation, not in running it
[20:57] <muszek> th8r: it doesn't show anything containing either "cd" or "dvd" (lower and uppercase)
[20:57] <anuraag> hi new to ubuntu... youtube not working on fierfox or chorme what to do
[20:58] <spc_in_plc> econdudeawesome, oh okay. did you search iin the MATLAB forum?
[20:58] <D-F3NS> hi folks, tried to update my ubuntu 10.10 today, it found some updates and a new kernel. but it was not possible to install the new kernel (grey..)
[20:58] <th0r> muszek: I found mine using lshw
[20:59] <Concurssi> I was just installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras thing, now it's asking me to configure kerberos authentification. What do I do?
[20:59] <io> !info ubuntu-restricted-errors
[20:59] <io> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:59] <PythonSnake> How to change themes ?
[20:59] <xangua> D-F3NS: wait and try update later, next day maybe
[20:59] <robin0800_> muszek: disk utility can do that
[20:59] <econdudeawesome> spc_in_plc: yes
[20:59] <io> D-F3NS: any error?
[21:00] <xangua> PythonSnake: system>prefs>appearence
[21:00] <oCean> muszek: try  sudo lshw -C disk
[21:00] <D-F3NS> no error, just greyed out. tried to update my 11.04 too, but no new kernel was available
[21:01] <PythonSnake> xangua: I don't find that
[21:01] <rymo> using a trackpad under Natty with twinview display (3200x1200), horizontal mouse movements way more sensitive than vertical - can this be fixed?
[21:01] <robin0800_> D-F3NS: there is a new kernel in proposed if you enable it
[21:02] <Tyrnis> plop all
[21:02] <D-F3NS> robin0800_, mhh?
[21:02] <Concurssi> So can
[21:02] <Concurssi> So can somebody help me?
[21:02] <muszek> th8r: plain lshw helped.  robin0800_, oCean: thanks :)
[21:02] <oCean> muszek: welcome!
[21:03] <th0r> Concurssi: no one knows anything about that problem
[21:03] <rypervenche> Concurssi: What exactly did it show you?
[21:03] <D-F3NS> robin0800_,  im using Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic. guess its not the newest?
[21:04] <Concurssi> It's just asking me to configure kerberos authentification. Specifically it's asking me specify a "default kerberos version 5 realm"
[21:04] <bittin_> i use 26.38.10
[21:04] <guntbert> !latest | D-F3NS
[21:04] <sveinse> Anyone else who has recently got problems with chromium and facebook? My new post tab (the world next to the fb logo, upper right corner) isn't clickable any more. Just inverts the symbol
[21:04] <robin0800_> D-F3NS: no 10 is you enable proposed in software sources
[21:05] <rypervenche> sveinse: Are you using your neighbor's connection? lol
[21:06] <sveinse> eh? sorry?
[21:06] <jimcooncat> rypervenche: not everyone knows the old upside-down-graphics-transparent-proxy trick
[21:07] <D-F3NS> guntbert,  well i was wonderin coze my 10.10 can be upgraded but my 11.04 not
[21:07] <jjovereats> Re: my error: And even --sparse had an error. Woop.
[21:08] <rypervenche> jimcooncat: No, but it would still help us to narrow down the problem.
[21:08] <ChrisSeifried> I have a problem with Oneiric after installation.  It hangs on "Checking for running unattended-upgrades:" while booting up.
[21:09] <xangua> ChrisSeifried: not supported here
[21:09] <sveinse> It seems none of the pop-up menus next to the facebook logo is working in my chromium. It does in firefox. (I'm on Natty, amd64)
[21:09] <ChrisSeifried> Woops I'm sorry!  Would the Bug Squad be of any help?
[21:10] <Pici> ChrisSeifried : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[21:10] <rymo> "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already the newest version" so why are my circles looking like squashed ovals?
[21:10] <guntbert> D-F3NS: then I don't know, I am running 2.6.38-8 as well
[21:11] <ChrisSeifried> Alright thankyou!
[21:11] <Concurssi> Well, I just pressed return on all the kerberos prompts. I hope it works
[21:11] <BluesKaj> ChrisSeifried, join #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric support
[21:12] <BluesKaj> oops
[21:13] <D-F3NS> thx
[21:14] <PythonSnake> hi
[21:14] <bluezone> anyone know if i can futhur reduce mouse sensitivity and acceleration beyond 0? (it is still too fast at 0)
[21:17] <bluezone> anyone know if i can futhur reduce mouse sensitivity and acceleration beyond 0? (it is still too fast at 0)
[21:17] <bluezone> below 0 *
[21:18] <PythonSnake> is GNOME 3 slower than Unity ?
[21:18] <Trfsrfr> Why do the apps on my task bar just randomly disappear?
[21:19] <PythonSnake> It slows down a bit when I switch window/workspace
[21:19] <kajakajo> Trfsrfr, because they hate you.
[21:19] <jjovereats> No errors so far with my current backup pipeline (tar cvf - somefileshere | ssh me@somepc --command "cat > /home/me/somefilenamehere.tar"
[21:19] <Trfsrfr> kajakajo, I figured that!
[21:19] <jjovereats> s/tar"/tar)/
[21:19] <bluezone> Trfsrfr, on gnome?
[21:19] <Trfsrfr> yes
[21:19] <rypervenche> Trfsrfr: try "killall gnome-panel"
[21:20] <jjovereats> s/tar\"/tar\)/
[21:20] <bluezone> Trfsrfr, there was a command to fix that but i don't recall which one... i lost my notes :(
[21:20] <Trfsrfr> rypervenche, what does that do?
[21:20] <jjovereats> Notice how I genericified my pipeline.
[21:20] <bluezone> it kills your gnome taskbar
[21:20] <kajakajo> Trfsrfr, it commands your computer to do something.
[21:20] <rypervenche> Trfsrfr: I had that problem when I used Gnome, about 50% of the time I had problems when I first started my computer. I made a little shortcut to do that whenever I needed it. It kills and restarts your panel.
[21:20] <demonek> anyone familiar with picard?
[21:21] <ddn> hi all
[21:21] <ddn> how can I find with ubuntu version am I using?
[21:21] <ice9> I'm trying to file share between win7 and ubuntu 10.04, can anyone assist? I'm getting an unable to mount error.
[21:21] <rypervenche> ddn: lsb_release -a
[21:21] <Trfsrfr> okay
[21:22] <Gangrel> !paste
[21:22] <w30> ddn cat /etc/issue
[21:22] <ddn> rypervenche: 10.04 lucyd, cool, ty
[21:23] <ddn> any idea why I can not find the volume control again after the last update. It is not available when I try to add an element to the bar
[21:23] <Trfsrfr> rypervenche, is gnome: no process found panel: no process found a bad thing?
[21:23] <Mandrew> Anyone know how to make the Evoluent Vertical Mouse work with a ps/2 adapter?
[21:23] <rypervenche> Trfsrfr: "killall gnome-panel"
[21:23] <trism> ddn: it is part of the indicator applet now, so add that back to your panel. also make sure indicator-sound is installed
[21:23] <Trfsrfr> rypervenche, I did that, what I typed above was the response
[21:24] <rypervenche> Trfsrfr: You must have put a space or did not type it correctly.
[21:24] <Chaser> noob question. When I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I get informed that some packages are kept back from upgrading. From what I can understand, I need to use apt-get dist-upgrade as well. I read the man page but just want to confirm that dist-upgrade does not upgrade the distribution to next version. Is that correct ?
[21:24] <rypervenche> Chaser: That is correct.
[21:24] <Trfsrfr> rypervenche, youre right, i forgot the dash
[21:24] <Chaser> rypervenche, thanks !
[21:25] <rypervenche> Chaser: You have to do that for things like kernel upgrades.
[21:25] <PythonSnake> How to install theme ?
[21:25] <iivvoo> omg why do people write such terrible, buggy software
[21:25] <iivvoo> attempting to rip and encode using k9copy
[21:25] <iivvoo> I'm afraid I'll have too boot my macbook in stead
[21:26] <ddn> rypervenche: so not I begin to be worry, both programs are installed, but not available when try to add to the panel
[21:26] <andantino> buggy just means it has character
[21:26] <iivvoo> or it means total nonfunctioning failure
[21:26] <Chaser> rypervenche, cool. yes I see that now. Is there some other command that does all three for me  i.e., update && upgrade && dist-upgrade ?
[21:27] <iivvoo> anyone have other tips for convenient ripping+encoding of dvd's?
[21:27] <demonek> does devede do that?
[21:27] <rypervenche> Chaser: No, just do all 3. I have made an alias that does that as well as removes old packages, removes orphans, and purges all programs that have left their configuration files behind.
[21:28] <w30> iivvoo, if t breaks you get to keep both pieces also
[21:28] <w30> t/it
[21:28] <Chaser> rypervenche, ok. Thanks for the help.
[21:28] <demonek> is anyone familiar with picard?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> iivvoo, try dvd::rip
[21:30] <anischez> I want to change the cimputer name had selected a long name hoe can this be done
[21:30] <Renierius> Could anyone please help me with getting my S/PDIF out to work with a speaker that I have here?
[21:30] <lemming> hi guys, quick question: how can i run gnome-screensaver-command from the virtual terminal? i.e. ctrl+alt+f1
[21:31] <Finw3> Hi, I need to edit a .fla file as a text file to modify some settings, but gedit can't open it. How can I open this as text file?
[21:31] <BluesKaj> !dvd::rip  |  iivvoo
[21:31] <BluesKaj> !info dvd::rip | iivvoo
[21:31] <rypervenche> Finw3: Use another text editor, there are many out there. nano and vim are good editors that you can use in a terminal.
[21:32] <Finw3> rypervenche ok I will try, thank you very much :-)
[21:32] <trism> lemming: it may work if you specify the DISPLAY, such as: DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-screensaver-command --lock;
[21:32] <lemming> trism: tried that, doesnt work unfortunately
[21:33] <craigbass1976> If I never set up a root user password (the OS root), where would I find root's .mysql_history file?
[21:33] <trism> lemming: did it error?
[21:34] <lemming> trism: yes, "failed to connect to the dbus daemon //bin/dbus-launch
[21:34] <ddn> my ubuntu based linux4one has no element on the desktop, no icons nor I can right click to change wallpaper for example, any idea how to revert this situation?
[21:34] <ray24> lol^
[21:34] <lemming> trims: "... Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed"
[21:35] <Nobgul-bnc> Craig_Dem, the root users pass is yours for the system.
[21:35] <Nobgul-bnc> as far as the mysql file what are you lookinf for exactly
[21:36] <craigbass1976> Nobgul-bnc, someone is about to start work on a box.  My password is in a grant statement issued by mysql's root.  I'd like to delete just that one command from the file
[21:36] <trism> lemming: did the session lock up on you? that may be why it isn't working (seems to work here). may also be the wrong DISPLAY
[21:36] <Nobgul-bnc> craigbass1976, ah got ya 1 sec
[21:37] <Nobgul-bnc> hrmm.
[21:37] <lemming> trism: currently not. its my sisters laptop and sometimes the screensaver freezes and she cannot unlock it. tried locking it as a test
[21:37] <craigbass1976> Nobgul-bnc, forget it.  I just found it in my own home directory
[21:37] <craigbass1976> That's odd...
[21:37] <Nobgul-bnc> The default path for the mysql history file is $HOME/.mysql_history .
[21:37] <craigbass1976> Nobgul-bnc, and it's owned by root
[21:37] <Nobgul-bnc> ^^
[21:37] <Nobgul-bnc> you beat me to it lol
[21:37] <carlos> hello
[21:37] <Nobgul-bnc> so sudo pico file
[21:38] <Jon--> I recently had my monitor replaced on my laptop and the screen is now has a bright white tinge to it and the text is a bit unclear. How can I ensure this is a hardware issue and not a software one? Ubuntu 10.10
[21:38] <jfroebe> 99% sure hardware
[21:39] <rypervenche> Jon--: Try it on another computer.
[21:39] <rypervenche> Jon--: Or run it using a live CD of a different distro.
[21:39] <Jon--> rypervenche, It's a laptop
[21:39] <Nobgul-bnc> I would say hardware as well. But if you want to double check you could run a linux distro off cd a live cd and see if it happnens
[21:39] <craigbass1976> Nobgul-bnc, now what happens when they set up their own user account?  Does it still write to /home/me/.mysql_history, or /home/them/.mysql_history ?
[21:39] <Jon--> rypervenche, I'll try a livecd
[21:39] <Nobgul-bnc> rypervenche, copy cat =P
[21:40] <rypervenche> Nobgul-bnc: Great minds think alike :)
[21:40] <Nobgul-bnc> them craigbass1976
[21:40] <Nobgul-bnc> rypervenche, too true
[21:40] <wonka_> bye
[21:40] <craigbass1976> Nobgul-bnc, MMMM-kay.
[21:40] <lemming> trism: okay, had an idea. a simple kill works
[21:41] <Warod> I have a problem with boot time mount of multiple NFS filesystems on Ubuntu 11.04. It mounts the first NFS filesystem and the mount defuncts before getting to mount the second one.
[21:41] <trism> lemming: what did you kill?
[21:41] <Warod> If I mount them by hand, it works.
[21:41] <iivvoo> I thought dvd::rip was some obscure perl module but it looks good so far..
[21:41] <lemming> trism: gnome-screensaver
[21:42] <rhizmoe> where is the info for deciphering the @ sign at the end of my file mode: -rw-r--r--@
[21:42] <rhizmoe> pretty please
[21:42] <sysop-work> ne1 have any tips for getting a perc4 to work with the 64bit live cd?
[21:42] <sysop-work> I just need to modify the sudoers
[21:42] <guntbert> sysop-work: what is a perc4?
[21:43] <Nobgul-bnc> rhizmoe, never seen a @
[21:43] <sysop-work> dell raid controller
[21:43] <PythonSnake> HELP!
[21:43] <sysop-work> guntbert, dell raid card
[21:43] <PythonSnake> Why I don't have any permissions ???
[21:44] <guntbert> sysop-work: I see ... what has that to do with sudoers? (that threw me :-))
[21:44] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, with what.
[21:44] <rhizmoe> oh duh, sorry. this is osx. nevermind.
[21:44] <PythonSnake> I cant extract to usr folde
[21:44] <PythonSnake> r
[21:44] <sysop-work> nothing really
[21:44] <Nobgul-bnc> !question | PythonSnake
[21:45] <PythonSnake> I cant extract to usr folder..
[21:45] <sysop-work> guntbert,  I need to mount the raid drives with the live cd so I can change the messed up sudoers
[21:45] <Nobgul-bnc> Because it is owned by root
[21:45] <Nobgul-bnc> you need to do it in a terminal
[21:45] <Nobgul-bnc> and make sure you use sudo
[21:45] <jjovereats> One error here: Part of my project for Mum so she can watch something she loves to watch.
[21:45] <guntbert> sysop-work: thx for telling me - I was really curious - no help from me, sorry
[21:45] <jjovereats> One error here: It says File shrank by 99661100 bytes; padding with zeros
[21:46] <trism> lemming: may want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingScreenLocking if you haven't already
[21:46] <Nobgul-bnc> !question | jjovereats
[21:47] <Laroz> good point
[21:47] <PythonSnake> how to be owner ?
[21:47] <PythonSnake> I'm owner but cant set permissions..
[21:47] <lemming> trism: thanks, Ill have a look at it
[21:47] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, You can't you need to use sudo to extract the file to a locked system directory
[21:48] <PythonSnake> How to extract a zip ?
[21:48] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, what is the file extension .tar.gz?
[21:48] <PythonSnake> zip
[21:48] <Nobgul-bnc> sudo unzip file.zip
[21:48] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, you may need to sudo apt-get install zip
[21:49] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, not that it is my business but what exactly are you placing in the /usr/ folder?
[21:49] <PythonSnake> But where will it be extracted ?
[21:49] <PythonSnake> /usr/share/themes
[21:49] <lemming> trism: thanks for your help. bye
[21:49] <jjovereats> I am not asking to ask a question. I'm saying: the error occured, please help.
[21:50] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, where ever you put it so if the file is at /home/python/file.zip it will extract there. so you need to move the file to the /usr/share/themes/  then extract it
[21:50] <Nobgul-bnc> jjovereats, i have no idea what program your using. I saw the error. But for what program, what were you doing when it happneed etc.
[21:52] <lnb> how can one reboot to text mode to get root access
[21:52] <Dave888> lnb ROX!
[21:52] <nestea> where does the apt repository located (like to add and remove stuff)
[21:52] <lnb> ?
[21:52] <Dave888> nestea ROX!
[21:52] <Nobgul-bnc> lnb, reboot into it you need to interupt the boot.
[21:52] <nestea> indeed.
[21:52] <Dave888> Nobgul-bnc ROCKS!
[21:53] <jstoone> Hi everyone, can you recommend a package to record the screen?
[21:53] <lnb> how to get into text mode ... rebooting just goes back to gui interface
[21:53] <Dave888> jstoone ROCKS!
[21:53] <jjovereats> Nobgul-bnc, I'm using TAR over SSH and CAT in the SSH session.
[21:53] <lnb> or boot single user
[21:53] <Nobgul-bnc> lnb, you can use a terminal?
[21:53] <PythonSnake> How to get root permissions ?
[21:53] <PythonSnake> ?
[21:53] <lnb> sure
[21:53] <Dave888> jjovereats ROX!
[21:53] <jstoone> Dave888: is the package named "rocks"?
[21:53] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, type sudo command
[21:53] <Dave888> PythoneSnake is AWESOME!
[21:53] <Nobgul-bnc> !help | dave
[21:53] <jjovereats> What a fail. My backup systemm sucks.
[21:53] <lnb> i messed up sudoers and need to change it
[21:53] <jjovereats> s/systemm/system/
[21:53] <Dave888> ubottu ROX!
[21:54] <Nobgul-bnc> errr anyway Dave888, do you need ubuntu help?
[21:54] <PythonSnake> how to get root perm forever?
[21:54] <Nobgul-bnc> Dave888, this is a help chanel if you need help ask otherwise take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <PythonSnake> without sudo
[21:54] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake sudo -i   will last until you log out
[21:54] <Nobgul-bnc> Otherwise there is no way
[21:54] <lnb> so there is no way to boot single user mode?
[21:55] <Dave888> Nobgul-bnc you rock! you're awesome!  -goes to #ubuntu-offtopic -
[21:55] <ddn> how can I eliminate old versions of kernel from my system?
[21:55] <Nobgul-bnc> Yes but if you messed up the sudo file that you can't edit it even drping into ah text at boot won't help you
[21:55] <Nobgul-bnc> Unless i misunderstood you.
[21:56] <PythonSnake> I still cant extract to usr
[21:56] <PythonSnake> someone to assist me through remote please ?
[21:56] <lnb> well i figured that like other OS i use, I can boot -s (single user) and if root has no passwd, just get in as root
[21:56] <Nobgul-bnc> Not that i know of.
[21:56] <Nobgul-bnc> PythonSnake, not a chance in the world would i ever.
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> Sorry
[21:57] <lnb> is there a way to interrupt boot to get into text mode?
[21:57] <E3D3> Hi, I installed & run a FTP file server as gEdit-plugin but don't no how to stop/exit it ?
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> lnb, yes
[21:57] <lnb> how?
[21:57] <PythonSnake> :'(
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> you can edit the grub and at the end of the boot line put "noquiet"
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> I think
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> i would good it really though
[21:57] <lnb> ok
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> google
[21:57] <lnb> i'll try that
[21:57] <lnb> thanks
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> google it first lol
[21:57] <Nobgul-bnc> your swelcome
[21:59] <palhmbs> how do I find the Network Connections GUI in lubuntu?
[21:59] <Golgo007> Hello - I am having wireless connection issue with ubuntu 11.04
[21:59] <Golgo007> So atm I am using wired
[21:59] <ubuntu__> hi. I installed xubuntu with wubi, why is there an icon on desktop that says install xubuntu
[21:59] <Dave888> Golgo007 IS AWESOME
[21:59] <Golgo007> I can't connect as it kept saying the wireless key/pass is wrong but I know it is correct info I keyed into
[21:59] <eiriksvin> um, in Ubuntu, my Mozilla asks for a Security Password every time i start it, how do I get rid of that?
[22:00] <Dave888> Even Warod is Awesome!
[22:00] <Nobgul-bnc> Dave888, please stop the room is busy enough without your chit-chat
[22:00] <nestea> can someone post their /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[22:00] <Dave888> Okay.. but know that you're awesome!
[22:01] <vlt> Hello.  Can I attach my physical keyboard to a linux console (the one one ctrl+F1) while showing a running X server on video out?
[22:01] <Nobgul-bnc> palhmbs,  in terminal run nm-applet
[22:01] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, for desktop or server?
[22:01] <E3D3> Is someone familiar with the FTP-server gEdit-plugin ?
[22:01] <VCoolio> nestea: why? if you lost yours, try this http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:01] <w30> lnb, interrupt the boot process with esc and then e for edit and put text at the endo of your kernel line for a one time  text boot
[22:01] <eiriksvin> Can someone help me figure this out: in Ubuntu, my Mozilla asks for a Security Password every time i start it, how do I get rid of that?
[22:02] <nestea> its not that i lost mine but im using a fork of lubuntu but its grabbing from repositories that have 3-4 versions of the same thing
[22:02] <nestea> so im trying to set mine up only to grab say, from like the ubuntu archives
[22:02] <Nobgul-bnc> eiriksvin, its a addon called startupmaster disable it and you will be set
[22:02] <kbrosnan> eiriksvin: do you know the master password?
[22:02] <eiriksvin> Nobul-bnc thank you
[22:02] <jstoone> how do i add things to my top panel in Natty?
[22:02] <Nobgul-bnc> NO worries.
[22:02] <nestea> think that would fix my problem ?lol
[22:03] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, no i think it would be bad.
[22:03] <eiriksvin> oops: I meant Nobgul-bnc
[22:03] <nestea> yeah
[22:03] <Nobgul-bnc> eiriksvin, its ok i have been called worse =)
[22:03] <nestea> thought so
[22:03] <palhmbs> thanks Nobgul-bnc
[22:03] <nestea> :P
[22:03] <Nobgul-bnc> palhmbs, your welcome
[22:03] <nestea> but that also means im still stuck
[22:04] <nestea> cant even install gnome properly cause of broken dependencies lol
[22:04] <w30> jstoone, left click on the panell and choose add
[22:05] <jstoone> w30: I'm using Unity 3D and I cannot right click the top bar
[22:05] <Flecks> my xorg eats 1.4GB ram
[22:05] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, Not really. are none of the files inatalling?
[22:05] <Flecks> is this ok?
[22:06] <Nobgul-bnc> Flecks, yikes!
[22:06] <w30> jstoone, I could not add to mine either in Unity sorry no advice from me on Unity
[22:06] <jjovereats> It happens to Bzipped tarballs and C++ files.
[22:06] <jstoone> w30: Thanks anyway )_
[22:06] <jstoone> (:*
[22:07] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, i just asked a m8 who uses lubuntu he said you can use the reg ubuntu sources list...
[22:07] <nestea> yeah
[22:07] <Nobgul-bnc> jjovereats, thank you now i have a place to start with. Let me look over your questions and ill see if i can help you.
[22:07] <nestea> okay, sigh
[22:07] <nestea> well
[22:07] <nestea> its broken dependency hell
[22:07] <nestea> like i install one
[22:08] <nestea> and i gotta install the other, but it has to delete the one i just installed
[22:08] <PythonSnake> Do you guys use gnome ?
[22:08] <Nobgul-bnc> >_<
[22:08] <nestea> sorry, my keyboard is stucking like a mofo
[22:08] <lnb> ok, here is what i did to gain root access after screwing up sudoers file. boot to install cdrom, try it as demo, find UID for / partition, open shell, vi /media/somelongnumber/etc/sudoers  fix line, save/exit/reboot.
[22:08] <lnb> and it worked just fine :)
[22:08] <Nobgul-bnc> lnb, nice info I will have to remember that for later.
[22:08] <lnb> sudo su #
[22:09] <PythonSnake> Is there a gamr channel ?
[22:09] <nestea> dependency hell, i install one thing it says i need like swfdec-gnome, and it'll uninstall epiphany and a whole list of things from it that it'll say i need when I do it again
[22:09] <PythonSnake> game*
[22:09] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, let me ask my m8 see what he says.
[22:09] <Dulak> lnb: 'sudo -i'
[22:09] <nestea> okay
[22:09] <lnb> i had just reinstalled because package manger coulld no longer update and and I changed sudoes so no passwd for those in group of admins
[22:09] <lnb> and messed up the line
[22:10] <lnb> but thank you for your kind responses. :)
[22:10] <Nobgul-bnc> nestea, i gave him your name he said he will be on a bit later if your around he will try and help
[22:11] <nestea> alright
[22:11] <LABcrab> Hey everyone!  Sound Juicer is misbehaving!  It won't rip MP3s!  :'(
[22:12] <mneptok> nestea: explain the problem, please?
[22:13] <nestea> lol
[22:13] <nestea> dependency hell, i install one thing it says i need like swfdec-gnome, and it'll uninstall epiphany and a whole list of things from it that it'll say i need when I do it again
[22:13] <skrewler> i googled a bit but couldnt' find the answer.  running 10.04.02 on ec2.  mail.info and mail.log keep growing to 2GB a piece.  they're being rotated, but I don't see an entry in logrotate.d .. anyone know where I can adjust this
[22:13] <nestea> thats really the best way i can think of to put it...
[22:13] <mneptok> nestea: what was it you tried to install?
[22:13] <JudeQuinn> I got a problem I can't seem to solve.
[22:13] <nestea> gnome
[22:13] <nestea> lol
[22:13] <nestea> i'd rather build it
[22:13] <nestea> but i cant find a svn for 30
[22:13] <nestea> 3.0
[22:13] <nestea> *
[22:14] <JudeQuinn> Could someone help me?
[22:14] <nestea> but im trying to use 2.30.2 and no luck
[22:14] <mneptok> nestea: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <escott> !help | JudeQuinn
[22:14] <nestea> oh shit
[22:14] <nestea> lol
[22:14] <nestea> 899mb
[22:14] <edbian> no worries
[22:14] <FloodBot1> nestea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <m_> message to jahman
[22:15] <m_> message to everton
[22:15] <nestea> i'll have to remember this when i get on my other inet
[22:15] <nestea> sec
[22:15] <JudeQuinn> When I go to Customize the appearance in CCSM the top bar gets distorted, any clue as to why?
[22:16] <LABcrab> Hey everyone!  Sound Juicer is misbehaving!  It won't rip MP3s!  :'(
[22:16] <mneptok> nestea: please stop with the profanity.
[22:16] <LABcrab> !language > nestea
[22:17] <mneptok> LABcrab: i have experienced similar problems. despite setting the mp3 profile, SoundJuicer insists on ogg
[22:17] <mneptok> LABcrab: i have yet to file a bug, but have found Rhythmbox honors the selected mp3 profile, so i have been ripping with that instead
[22:18] <JudeQuinn> Could I get an older version of ubuntu to run along side windows xp?
[22:18] <JudeQuinn> If I'm correct the current is still in beta, right?
[22:18] <Azelphur> JudeQuinn: yep
[22:18] <Azelphur> JudeQuinn: the current is the current, it's not in beta.
[22:18] <JudeQuinn> Ah, my mistake.
[22:19] <VCoolio> JudeQuinn: no, either 10.04 (long term support) or 11.04, both released; 11.10 is development version now
[22:19] <Azelphur> JudeQuinn: Ubuntu does releases every 6 months, the version numbers are their release dates, 11.04 is April 2011. It's the current release and it's not beta :)
[22:19] <LABcrab> mneptok: Why doesn't Ubuntu have a solid alternative to iTunes?
[22:19] <milehigh> Does Ubuntu go from Sleep to Hibernate automatically at some point after a few hours of sleep?
[22:19] <milehigh> 11.04
[22:19] <eiriksvin> Has anyone had any problems with Flash not acting right on a 64bit system?
[22:19] <mneptok> LABcrab: because you haven't written it yet? this is Free software, dude ...
[22:20] <JudeQuinn> Ok, Thanks.
[22:20] <eiriksvin> my mouse hovers over some flash things, and the whole thing disappears
[22:20] <LABcrab> FLAC, Vorbis, Wave and PCM are the Banshee import options.  How do i add MP3?  What is good for Android?
[22:20] <eiriksvin> then as I move my mouse it comes back
[22:20] <LABcrab> Mouse in the house!
[22:21] <Wantstolearn> Has anyone any good reccmonadtion for must have chat irc room for medicin programing and electroinc.Thanks
[22:21] <mneptok> LABcrab: mp3 support cannot be shipped by default, as it is a codec that requires licensing
[22:21] <Wantstolearn> and linux also
[22:21] <Wantstolearn> development mainly
[22:21] <kunguz> can anyone explain me how to connect to wireless network with ubuntu-arm headless image?
[22:22] <tycel> alright, installing ubuntu-desktop..
[22:22] <tjiggi_fo> eiriksvin, https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[22:22] <escott> LABcrab, mp3 cannot be legally distributed in the US
[22:22] <LABcrab> escott & mneptok: How can it be added?  What about Canada?
[22:22] <escott> LABcrab, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:23] <escott> LABcrab, just install restricted-plugins for gstreamer and install lame
[22:23] <LABcrab> escott: i think i have Fluendo/VLC already though.  How do i add it to Banshee?
[22:24] <kawsay> holas
[22:25] <escott> LABcrab, you will need the gstreamer plugin for lame. not sure what its name is
[22:25] <escott> !es | kawsay
[22:25] <kawsay> #ubuntu-es
[22:25] <morpheus> hi
[22:27] <Craven1254> I'm unable to get onto Moonlight's IRC channel.  What is the current status of DRM-integration for Moonlight?
[22:27] <LABcrab> Nah it's Sunlight detergent.
[22:27] <escott> Craven1254, afaik the basic infrastructure is there, but none of the crypto or keys ie you can't and won't be able to do netflix
[22:29] <Craven1254> escott, Would you recommend an install of XP in VirtualBox to handle Netflix?
[22:30] <escott> Craven1254, vm/dual boot is your only really good option. some have tried using wine, but you have to pull so much of the windows core in that i just don't see the point
[22:31] <Luxe> How do I find out if I have a 32bit or 64bit ubuntu installation?
[22:31] <escott> Luxe, uname -a
[22:31] <Luxe> Thanks :)
[22:32] <Luxe> Linux Luxe 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:32] <Luxe> So wut's that? ;o
[22:32] <Luxe> i686. i assume 64?
[22:32] <escott> Luxe, 32bit
[22:32] <Luxe> oh -.-
[22:32] <Renierius> Would anyone perhaps know how I could use my S/PDIF out?
[22:32] <Craven1254> escott, Thank you.
[22:34] <Luxe> Thanks escot <3
[22:34] <escott> Renierius, if jack plugin detection is working (and you have intel hda sound) you can play around with hda_analyzer (its not a good solution though)
[22:34] <w7nz7k> is there a way to check which program is using the most of my connection?
[22:34] <tjiggi_fo> Luxe, you can also cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:34] <escott> w7nz7k, ntop might work
[22:34] <Luxe> Wut? ;o
[22:35] <escott> Luxe, if you need to know if your cpu supports 64bit check /proc/cpuinfo and check if "lm" is listed in the flags
[22:36] <JoshOvki> coz_, its all good fun
[22:36] <Luxe> Mmk.
[22:36] <JoshOvki> I have a month off work starting on Friday and I cant wait!
[22:36] <Renierius> Excuse me, escott?
[22:36] <Luxe> Oh it is.
[22:37] <escott> Renierius, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[22:38] <Flash_Jordan> If i want to install windows 7 32 bit alongside my ubuntu partition, how  can install windows while in ubuntu? because i dont have blank CD's to hold the amount of data that is windows 7 32 bit
[22:38] <Renierius> Thanks, escott!
[22:39] <john_rambo> Cant open files with Smplayer ......http://pastebin.com/nfnCK5W0  ...........drag n drop works
[22:39] <escott> Flash_Jordan, you might (and thats a big might) be able to install win 7 to a raw partition with virtualbox, but win7 doesn't like that the entire system is changed when you boot outside the vm on the real hardware
[22:39] <sweetest> hello
[22:40] <elevenpointfive> hi.
[22:40] <sweetest> I want to squeeze 1024x600 resolution onto 800x480 screen; I realize fonts won't be as sharp, but I want software to think it's 1024x600 resolution screen
[22:40] <Corey> sweetest: If the screen won't support it, you're kinda hosed.
[22:41] <escott> sweetest, you might be able to do that with xnest or vnc, but a better choice would be to set the virtual size to be larger and then pan
[22:42] <Flash_Jordan> well i just found out that al i need is a 4GB USB stick which i have, now to just hope the torrent i have works, if all fails, will install in ubuntu back!
[22:42] <sweetest> If I am not mistaken, you're talking about configuration when mouse cursor will scroll screen when I arrive with it at it's edge
[22:42] <coz_> Flash_Jordan,  what are you doing with the flash drive?
[22:42] <sweetest> there was once a UMPC, OQO - it had 800x480 display but had option to "look" like bigger one
[22:42] <sweetest> 1024x600 or 1280x720, if I remember right, but that's secondary
[22:43] <m_> calling jahman
[22:43] <sweetest> is it possible to do something like that at software level?
[22:43] <Flash_Jordan> coz_ , http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/
[22:43] <coz_> Flash_Jordan,  ah ok
[22:43] <sweetest> I don't need hardware acceleration on this
[22:44] <sweetest> Imagine zooming web page; I want to "zoom" 1024x600 xorg onto 800x480 screen
[22:44] <coz_> sweetest,  out of curiosity,, what is the read out of this command    glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE    ?
[22:44] <Flash_Jordan> have a gateway 560GE (got it for free from a friend) and am gonna (hopefully) get windows 7 on it, and then play some WoW cata private servers like i do on my laptop!
[22:44] <Flash_Jordan> NERD FEST NERD FEST
[22:45] <AlphaPsi>  What are the differences for wubi and the full install with the partioning?
[22:45] <coz_> AlphaPsi,  not sure,, I have never used wubi
[22:45] <sweetest> I don't have linux right now at the device we're talking about
[22:45] <westz> Flash_Jordan: you're in a linux chatroom, "NERD FEST " is a given
[22:45] <coz_> sweetest,  ah ok
[22:45] <rypervenche> AlphaPsi: Wubi creates a virtual partition on your windows partition. It is not a real installation.
[22:45] <sweetest> what it's supposed to show? I'm not fluent in glxinfo output :-)
[22:46] <coz_> sweetest,  copy th at command ,, that will tell you the video card's hardware limitationi for resolution
[22:46] <escott> AlphaPsi, wubi installs ubuntu as a file inside ntfs. so its slower, and a bit less stable, but easier to remove
[22:46] <Flash_Jordan> i dont believe there is one, but i still dotnt use wubi, i like going through the install and partitioning there because i know it works!
[22:46] <m_> calling jahman
[22:47] <AlphaPsi> How would you uninstall the partitioning of ubuntu if I did a full install?
[22:47] <sweetest> AlphaPsi: you mean remove ubuntu?
[22:47] <edbian> AlphaPsi: Why would you unistall the partitioning if Ubuntu was installed>
[22:47] <escott> sweetest, ill bet xnest can do what you want. its even possible that xorg does larger virtual than physical without panning, but its and odd thing to want
[22:47] <AlphaPsi> Yeah removing ubuntu
[22:48] <westz> AlphaPsi: just do a full install and select "erase the entire disk"
[22:48] <AlphaPsi> uhh
[22:48] <elevenpointfive> What exactly are you trying to do?
[22:48] <sweetest> xnest, let me see :-)
[22:48] <westz> AlphaPsi: or do you want to keep files/a windows installation?
[22:48] <sweetest> it's odd thing, yes - want to try using phone as replacement for netbook :-)
[22:48] <escott> AlphaPsi, you could use gparted to repartition over the ubuntu partitions, and make them into ntfs for windows or expand the adjacent partitions
[22:48] <edbian> AlphaPsi: I would boot a live CD and erase the partitions using gparted.  Then there is some command fixmbr that you run on window to get the bootloader back
[22:49] <escott> AlphaPsi, if you just want to try it out I would use a live usb
[22:50] <edbian> AlphaPsi: Yeah, don't install until you're sure
[22:50] <elevenpointfive> I agree with escott, just try it out with a livecd or liveusb.
[22:50] <eiriksvin> holy cow, I didn't realize how awesome Skype in Ubuntu is now, I wish they had open chat rooms like IRC, but where you could just skype right in
[22:50] <westz> AlphaPsi: i agree with them
[22:50] <sweetest> if xnest works, I guess I can try it now
[22:50] <escott> AlphaPsi, the cds are slower, and can't preserve data over reboots, but a large usb stick (a couple gigs) will allow you to keep files and install additional programs
[22:50] <sweetest> because it should work everywhere, heh
[22:51] <AlphaPsi> I tried it over the boot
[22:51] <AlphaPsi> using a usb
[22:51] <AlphaPsi> but I feel like I want to do an install but not sure either with wubi or full
[22:51] <edbian> AlphaPsi: Don't use wubi.
[22:51] <smithzv> Something seems to be intercepting the ctrl-alt-b key sequence, is there a way to find out what is doing that?
[22:51] <elevenpointfive> Just do the full.
[22:51] <escott> AlphaPsi, almost nobody will recommend wubi
[22:51] <eiriksvin> AlphaPsi: I have Ubuntu on a 4gb USB, and its my portable ubuntu
[22:51] <edbian> AlphaPsi: Full install is less dangerous and easier to configure than wubi
[22:52] <AlphaPsi> easier to configure?
[22:52] <westz> AlphaPsi: wubi installs are slow and dont give you the feel of the OS. a live CD is better
[22:52] <perme> have a question about the rdesktop brute force patch: How i make it work?
[22:52] <perme> I keep getting Retrieved connection termination packet. Retrieved connection termination packet. [error] User "ADMINISTRATOR" Password "". Connection terminated due to unknown error.
[22:52] <perme> How do I brute force RDP passwords with the rdesktop brute force .diff file
[22:52] <perme> 'm using rdp-brute-force-r805.diff and rdesktop-1.5.0 from sourceforge
[22:52] <perme> come on I want to break into a server!
[22:53] <perme> j/k
[22:53] <AlphaPsi> How would I remove the full install if I wanted to?
[22:53] <AlphaPsi> from a partition
[22:53] <PythonSnake> Hi I switched from unity to GNOME 3 now when I try to run a game it shows Failed to execute child process "TeeWorlds"(no such file or directory) error
[22:53] <perme> if the full install's hard drive is hda1, type dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/zero
[22:53] <westz> AlphaPsi: just remove the partitions and resize the windows partition later
[22:53] <perme> This will start the Ubuntu uninstall process
[22:54] <mneptok> PythonSnake: GNOME3 is not included in Ubuntu, and is thus not supported here.
[22:54] <perme> oh windows
[22:54] <sweetest> perme: haha
[22:54] <perme> just type dd if=/dev/hdc1 of=/dev/zero for example if sdc5 was your linux partition
[22:58] <wiggmpk> anybody using Gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?
[22:58] <perme> err
[22:58] <sweetest> first it't not channel for black hat hacking, second good luck with bruteforcing over internet
[22:58] <AlphaPsi> I can just format/remove the parittion that contains ubuntu??
[22:58] <AlphaPsi> And it'll leave without a trace/
[22:58] <AlphaPsi> ?*
[22:58] <westz> AlphaPsi: it's not all that hard to remove if you understand how partitions and bootloaders work. if you get the basics you should be able to do it in a few minutes to an hour
[22:58] <perme> ok I'm not brute forcing at all, I just wanted to try compiling the program and making it work against my own machine
[22:58] <perme> I just want to get it to work th at's all
[22:58] <spc_in_plc> wiggmpk, yes
[22:58] <bluezone> anyone know if i can futhur reduce mouse sensitivity and acceleration beyond 0? (it is still too fast at 0)
[22:58] <coz_> AlphaPsi,   it should be wiped that way   ...yes
[22:58] <wiggmpk> spc_in_plc: im running x64 with nvidia drivers.. you running into any issues? any conflicts after install?
[22:58] <escott> bluezone, try xinput
[22:58] <westz> AlphaPsi: pretty much. you'll have to resize your windows partition again if you shrunk it to make room for ubuntu, and you'll have to reinstall the windows bootloader, but windows does that second part pretty easily
[22:58] <oscurochu> I have a Intel 865g video card that doesnt seem to play nicely with ubuntu. Any suggetions on running  live CD?
[22:58] <AlphaPsi> What do you mean I would have to install the windows bootloader again?
[22:58] <coz_> oscurochu,  you may want to use the  minimal install cd  to install it
[22:58] <Dirus> how can I make one upstart script start before another? do I just put it in the Required-Start list?
[22:58] <spc_in_plc> wiggmpk, first time I installed it, it gave me an error in logging in. But after I rebooted the second time, it's worked fine.
[22:58] <coz_> oscurochu,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:58] <oscurochu> coz_: i wouldnt wanna waste my time. if the CD doesnt work, then what makes you certain it will work once its installed?
[22:58] <wiggmpk> spc_in_plc: im reading mixed results online, and I really really wanna give it a try.. But I would like Unity to stay as in for now, until I more comfortable with gnome3 and slowly disable redudant unity features
[22:58] <coz_> oscurochu,  cant be sure,, you say the live cd doesnt work>?
[22:58] <comptekki> i installed ubuntu 11.04.  I assumed the firewall was active to start - it doesn't seem to be.
[22:58] <westz> AlphaPsi:  windows bootloader will only boot windows... so when you install ubuntu, you get grub (usually)  but that erases the windows bootloader (but grub will boot windows too, so it's okay) but if you remove ubuntu, you remove grub, so you have to fix the windows bootloader
[22:58] <comptekki> I installed sshd and posgresql and I was able to get to them without and fw change
[22:58] <coz_> oscurochu,  the minimal install cd is not a live cd it is a text install  and only 19 megs
[22:58] <spc_in_plc> wiggmpk, you can restore unity with "purge ppa"
[22:58] <ethernet-> hello
[22:58] <coz_> oscurochu,  it downloads the system from the net
[22:58] <comptekki> from remote
[22:59] <westz> AlphaPsi:  * actually it doesnt _erase_ the windows bootloader, it just changes the config a little. but it'll fix itself pretty easily (almost automatic)
[22:59] <oscurochu> the live CD boots, but its unusable because the video card doesnt wanna play nice. if you click on a menu, it appears for a second, and the entire menu turns black. the splash screen shows up on the desktop (as if it had trouble transitioning).
[22:59] <AlphaPsi> How would I fix the windows bootloader if I did that
[22:59] <comptekki> I then installed ufw and then they were blocked
[22:59] <AlphaPsi> Oh okay
[22:59] <wiggmpk> spc_in_plc: right, I understand that, but what I'm asking, will unity work with gnome3 without issue?
[22:59] <AlphaPsi> So I dont really have to worry about it?
[22:59] <comptekki> I then made rules to allow them again
[22:59] <sweetest> escott: can't find the option I need with xnest, you sure it can do it?
[22:59] <spc_in_plc> wiggmpk, Nope. the unity-shell won't work anymore.
[22:59] <oscurochu> coz_: i dont care how it installs the system, i need to know how to get it working. the minimal install CD will only get it installed, not get it working.
[22:59] <wiggmpk> spc_in_plc: k thanks =)
[23:00] <comptekki> why isn't a firewall on by default? or have active block all rules?
[23:00] <jahman> m are ready for spme linux
[23:00] <coz_> oscurochu,  are you on linux right now?
[23:00] <spc_in_plc> wiggmpk, no problem.
[23:00] <oscurochu> coz_: before i go that route, i need to figure out how to get it working on the CD, even if that means typing in commands in the terminal
[23:00] <westz> AlphaPsi: when you booted up after removing ubuntu, windows would fail to start (then tell you it failed to start) then it'll ask if you want to repair the bootloader, say yes and it'll fix it. almost automatic, just have to tell it "yes"
[23:00] <escott> AlphaPsi, a windows rescue cd (can be downloaded online) will allow you to reinstall the windows bootloader. you could also create a small boot partition at the front of the disk and keep grub but remove the ubuntu root partition
[23:00] <oscurochu> coz_ i could be.
[23:00] <coz_> oscurochu,  well I just want to know the exact intel chipset with    lspci | grep -i vga
[23:01] <AlphaPsi> I also had/have a small problem with ubuntu when I tried it
[23:01] <westz> escott: you're gonna confuse him. i'm pretty sure windows will fix it without the rescue cd anyway
[23:01] <AlphaPsi> All the text was too small
[23:01] <AlphaPsi> and I couldn't read it
[23:01] <oscurochu> coz_: ok ill fire it up, give it a minute to load.
[23:01] <AlphaPsi> and it was really blurry
[23:01] <trism> Dirus: might be of interest: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#start-must-precede-another-service
[23:01] <m_> jahman
[23:01] <AlphaPsi> well blurrier than I was used to like in windows
[23:01] <westz> AlphaPsi:  you can change the DPI to fix that
[23:01] <bluezone> escott, mhmm, which command with xinput?
[23:02] <AlphaPsi> Oh okay, oh I remember now, I heard that your hardrive could get corrupted or something if something goes wrong with the full install
[23:02] <westz> AlphaPsi: and the fonts are pretty "ech" in most linux distros until you customize them.
[23:02] <AlphaPsi> is that true?
[23:02] <escott> bluezone, xinput list-props #device-id#
[23:02] <scribble837636> Is anyone loving Unity?
[23:02] <Dave888> nope
[23:02] <rypervenche> scribble837636: Nope.
[23:02] <Dave888> everyone hates it
[23:02] <AlphaPsi> What would you recommend westz, which fonts?
[23:02] <bazhang> Dave888, thats not helpful
[23:02] <onetwothree> then why mopve to higher version and not stick to lts 10.04?
[23:03] <escott> AlphaPsi, the only major worry would be resizing the ntfs partition. its possible something could go wrong there
[23:03] <westz> AlphaPsi: of course, just like your harddrive could get corrupted if you saved a file in word: it's highly unlikely, just a possibility
[23:03] <scribble837636> I can't find anything now!
[23:03] <rypervenche> scribble837636: Ubuntu seems to have lost a lot of users because of it. Almost everyone I know who used Ubuntu before has now left it for something else.
[23:03]  * bluezone gasps
[23:03] <AlphaPsi> Hmm I think there my harddrive already has 2-3 partitions
[23:04] <scribble837636> Is there anyway to get back to gnome?
[23:04] <AlphaPsi> But I'm not sure, the C drive and the D drive, are those partitions?
[23:04] <westz> AlphaPsi: ???
[23:04] <bluezone> scribble837636, you should be able to switch that at the login screen
[23:04] <escott> AlphaPsi, yes they are
[23:04] <westz> AlphaPsi:  is D your cd drive?
[23:04] <bazhang> !classic | scribble837636
[23:04] <scribble837636> k...I'll give it a go
[23:04] <AlphaPsi> I don't think so
[23:04] <`Lyn> i've own a domain and a vps with ubuntu installed, ip is static. i want to add a vhost so i could use it on irc, how can i do it on ubuntu?
[23:04] <bluezone> YES i was right!! xD
[23:04] <AlphaPsi> ACER (C:) drive, and the DATA (D:) drive
[23:04] <PythonSnake> Hi
[23:04] <bazhang> PythonSnake, hi
[23:05] <PythonSnake> after an update I can't run any games..
[23:05] <bazhang> !details | PythonSnake
[23:05] <westz> AlphaPsi: yeah those are partitions, one is probably a recovery partition for windows
[23:05] <PythonSnake> It just doesn't show anything
[23:05] <Dirus> I put the provides from the other script in the "Required-Start" of the dhcp server script but it didn't seem to change the execution order
[23:05] <`Lyn> i've own a domain and a vps with ubuntu installed, ip is static. i want to add a vhost so i could use it on irc, how can i do it on ubuntu?
[23:05] <PythonSnake> Failed to execute child process "game" (No such file or directory) under gnome
[23:05] <AlphaPsi> But the DATA drive has almost nothing in it
[23:06] <Dirus> do I have to run something to reprocess the start up script info?
[23:06] <westz> AlphaPsi:  how big is it? (right click the drive, properties)
[23:06] <AlphaPsi> 145 GB
[23:06] <tang_> admin
[23:06] <westz> how big is the other one?
[23:06] <AlphaPsi> 145
[23:06] <westz> odd
[23:06] <AlphaPsi> So I think my harddrive is split
[23:06] <westz> yeah it is
[23:07] <westz> thats really weird
[23:07] <AlphaPsi> Theres nothing in the DATA (D:) drive though, and stuff is in the ACER (C:) drive
[23:07] <westz> i wonder if they're partitions or sep[erate drives....
[23:07] <sweetest> bump: escott, any idea how can I scale 1024x600 onto 800x480 with xnest?
[23:07] <AlphaPsi> Wait whats the difference?
[23:08] <sweetest> man page wasn't helpful
[23:08] <esing0> how do I install a program in linux which has a "makefile"
[23:08] <westz> one way, you have two harddrives, the other, you have one thats chopped in half
[23:08] <sweetest> esing0: you have to type "make" in the directory with Makefile
[23:08] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: the difference between "a pie" and "a slice of pie"
[23:08] <esing0> sweetest ive done this, but i get 2 errors
[23:08] <westz> esing0: google "compiling programs in ubuntu"
[23:09] <esing0> i wanted to install "tctool"
[23:09] <bluezone> escott, how do i get the mouse id :O its not appearing in lspci :(
[23:09] <sweetest> esing0: most often even before you run "make", you have to type "./configure"
[23:09] <sweetest> also, with most programs there is included "INSTALL" file with instructions
[23:09] <sweetest> I advise to look for it and read it
[23:09] <mneptok> bluezone: you have a mouse connected via PCI? really? try "lsusb"
[23:10] <bluezone> mneptok, no i don't know what pci is lol i just always use it
[23:10] <mneptok> bluezone: Peripheral Compenent Interface
[23:10]  * kimico Miauuuuuu online
[23:10] <westz> bluezone: lspci lists pci devices, lsusb lists usb devices, get it?
[23:10] <bluezone> mneptok, i should really get a degree in computers :(
[23:10] <bluezone> i guess, time to put that in notes lol
[23:11] <AlphaPsi> So can I format my DATA (D:) drive/ can I install Ubuntu on my D: drive
[23:11] <AlphaPsi> ?
[23:11] <westz> if it's a seperate drive, absolutely
[23:11] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: is it a drive, or a partition of a drive?
[23:11] <escott> bluezone, xinput list
[23:11] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: if you don't know, it's time to find out.
[23:11] <AlphaPsi> How do I find out?
[23:12] <westz> AlphaPsi: go to your device manager
[23:12] <AlphaPsi> Uhh
[23:12] <westz> AlphaPsi: i believe you can get to it in control panel
[23:13] <westz> AlphaPsi: or by going to "system properties"
[23:13] <AlphaPsi> Okay got to it
[23:13] <westz> AlphaPsi: (right click "my computer)
[23:13] <bluezone> escott, alright i got the id and did this: xinput list-props 046d:c041 but it outputs unable to find device
[23:13] <escott> sweetest, vnc?
[23:13] <westz> AlphaPsi: now scoll down it til you find something that says "storage devices" or "hard drives"
[23:13] <escott> bluezone, no first run xinput list the id number is internal to x
[23:14] <AlphaPsi> Disk Drives?
[23:14] <westz> i havent run windows in months so i cant quite remember
[23:14] <westz> yeah thats it
[23:14] <westz> expand that
[23:14] <bluezone> i see :)
[23:14] <AlphaPsi> Okay I did
[23:14] <westz> what all is there?
[23:14] <AlphaPsi> 4 Readers of some type, a USB device,  and an ATA device
[23:15] <AlphaPsi> Maybe this isn't it?
[23:15] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: you have one physical hard disk that has been partitioned.
[23:15] <westz> thats it, unless your cd drive is ata
[23:15] <sweetest> escott: and that's when it becomes dirty ]:-> doing regular work in vnc seems very unclean to me
[23:15] <westz> *thats a joke
[23:15] <bt> AlphaPsi, asus netbook?
[23:15] <sweetest> well, will look some more :-) will find it sooner or later
[23:15] <AlphaPsi> bt, no
[23:16] <escott> bluezone, the annoying thing about xinput set-props is it needs a field width (8bit/16bit/32bit) and i have no idea where one figures out the correct field width
[23:16] <westz> AlphaPsi: ok, you have one harddrive that's split in half
[23:16] <AlphaPsi> Oh okay
[23:16] <westz> so you'll have to do a little partitioning
[23:16] <AlphaPsi> What do you mean?
[23:16] <Gangrel> anyone can help on gnome 3?
[23:16] <westz> well sorta, not really
[23:16] <bluezone> escott, trial and error lol
[23:16] <bazhang> Gangrel, its not supported here, so no
[23:17] <AlphaPsi> I don't think theres anything in my DATA (D:) drive
[23:17] <bazhang> !gnome3 | Gangrel
[23:17] <westz> AlphaPsi: do you already have a cd or usb drive with the installation media?
[23:17] <AlphaPsi> Wait, strange I opened the DATA drive and theres these files I dont recognize
[23:17] <coz_> there is also UGR  but it should be a fresh install of 11.04  completely updatd
[23:17] <AlphaPsi> Some install and text documents that says eula
[23:18] <westz> what are they named?
[23:18] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: i would strongly suggest that before you investigate alternate OSes further you learn the difference between disks and partitions. otherwise you could really hose your system.
[23:18] <AlphaPsi> text documents named eula*
[23:18] <westz> uela is "User End License Agreement"
[23:18] <westz> *End User
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> Hmm alright, still not sure what it is
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> theres an install
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> installer*
[23:19] <westz> its that thing you have to agree to before you install something
[23:19] <westz> what's the filename of the installer?
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> "install"
[23:19] <AlphaPsi> lol
[23:20] <westz> not "install.exe"?
[23:20] <westz> wait can you see file extensons for known filetypes?
[23:20] <AlphaPsi> Well it's an Application file according to windows explorer
[23:20] <AlphaPsi> So I'm assuming its .exe
[23:20] <drahst> redhat ownz
[23:20] <drahst> joking
[23:21] <westz> *facepalm* i recommend you learn more about computers before you try installing ubuntu
[23:21] <AlphaPsi> Oh theres another installer too: "VC_RED"
[23:21] <AlphaPsi> Wait what do you mean?
[23:21] <drahst> what are you installing?
[23:22] <westz> first, go read up on what partitions are, and disk drives (RAID might be worth your time too)
[23:22] <AlphaPsi> Not sure just trying to figure out what's in this random partition on my harddrive
[23:22] <westz> then, go read up on what a botloader is
[23:22] <bluezone> escott, i tried all format(x) and it says sytanx error near '(' for: xinput set-int-prop 10 255 format (8) 0.5
[23:22] <neoncamouflage> Can you run modify the partition you're currently using? Like delete a 2nd and expand the one you're on to the whole disk?
[23:22] <pelo> hola
[23:22] <AlphaPsi> bootloader is boots up the/an OS right?
[23:22] <westz> yes
[23:22] <pelo> hablas en español
[23:23] <westz> but it's a little more complex than what you're giving it credit for
[23:23] <mneptok> !es | pelo
[23:23] <|Long|> hi, i need to manually update my new DNS where do i go from ssh screen?
[23:23] <pelo> no entiendo mucho
[23:23] <pelo> el ubuntu
[23:23] <AlphaPsi> What do you mean?
[23:23] <mneptok> pelo: Ingles solamente aqui, jefe.
[23:23] <westz> !wikipedia | AlphaPsi
[23:24] <westz> read up buddy
[23:24] <pelo> ok
[23:24] <pelo> gracias
[23:24] <mneptok> pelo: de nada
[23:24] <rypervenche> This is like watching a movie. I need popcorn.
[23:24] <AlphaPsi> But do I really need to know it?
[23:24] <escott> bluezone, its just a number xinput set-int-prop 0 "scroll speed" 8 3
[23:25] <PythonSnake> Hi I just rebooted now I can't go to ubuntu it says *Starting things like VirtualBox.. [ok]
[23:25] <gl-> hi, I have really bad 3d performance with natty and intel embedded graphics
[23:25] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: this is like you asking for directions on the highway, and when we tell you to steer left, you answer "STEER?! What the heck is 'steering'?!"
[23:25] <gl-> I read a bit of stuff on the net
[23:25] <westz> AlphaPsi: not if you're going to install and use ubuntu, simply because you'll figure it out yourself over time, but if you want to uninstall iubuntu later, yes you need to know
[23:25] <PythonSnake> the last one was Stopping anac(h)ronistic cron
[23:25] <gl-> but there doesn't seem to be anything consistent
[23:25] <PythonSnake> help
[23:26] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: you have to walk before you can run.
[23:26] <Madara`> any one installed coova chilli on ubuntu 9.10 server or above and working fine ?
[23:26] <AlphaPsi> Hmm, but then what types of things do I even need to know?
[23:26] <PythonSnake> please..
[23:27] <westz> AlphaPsi: precisely what mneptok  said. dont think this makes linux/ubuntu difficult, its not really, but if you want to know whats going on, go search this stuff
[23:27] <westz> !bootloader | AlphaPsi
[23:27] <AlphaPsi> Like what type of stuff? I have understood so far, it's just I need a few clarifications?
[23:27] <zi> What do I do now: http://ompldr.org/vOTlkMA ?
[23:27] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: what is a partition? how many primary partitions can an MSDOS disklabeled machine have? what is an extended partition? what is a swap partition? do i need one? how do i delete an existing partition in Windows and free the space for another OS?
[23:27] <mneptok> etc etc etc
[23:28] <westz> AlphaPsi: all the questions he posed, you should be able to answer if you want to be able to uninstall ubuntu later
[23:29] <AlphaPsi> Hmm, the thing I dont know is what an extended partition is and what a swap partition is
[23:29] <PythonSnake> Guys I really need help..
[23:29] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: so ... how many primary partitions can be on a disk with an MSDOS disklabel?
[23:30] <westz> mneptok: i know, i know, ask me! :P
[23:30]  * mneptok senses a Google search occurring
[23:31] <westz> what does windows call the file that acts as swap again? i forgot what the term is
[23:31] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and im having a problem with my dell 15'' monitor.The display has this zig zaggy heat wave effect and I dont know how to correct this or whats even wrong I cant change the refresh rate on the monitor whats going on and how do i fix it?
[23:31] <westz> i know they have a file instead of a partition though
[23:31] <AlphaPsi> 4? That's what I'm guessing
[23:31] <mneptok> westz: pagefile
[23:31] <westz> AlphaPsi: you're right, but how did you get that answer
[23:31] <westz> aaah thanks mneptok
[23:32] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: do you really want to be guessing as Linux formats huge portions of your hard drive? i wouldn't.
[23:32] <westz> and also, that shouldnt have been a guess
[23:32] <AlphaPsi> Research, although I'm not sure the importance of that answer so it's useless I guess
[23:32] <AlphaPsi> Definitely 4 then.
[23:32] <AlphaPsi> ...
[23:32] <bazhang> !enter | AlphaPsi
[23:32] <escott> hellhammer, what kind of display is this? crt?
[23:33] <westz> lol AlphaPsi  pissed off the bot
[23:33] <hellhammer> LCD
[23:33] <hellhammer> its an LCD monitor
[23:33] <PythonSnake> help !!!!
[23:33] <PythonSnake> I can't boot on linux
[23:33] <bazhang> !helpme | PythonSnake
[23:34] <PythonSnake> it shows a black screen
[23:34] <westz> also, AlphaPsi : if you type my name before your comments, it's easier for me to see your questions/comments
[23:34] <PythonSnake> with things like Starting Virtual box    [OK]
[23:34] <tiox1> I'm chatting from Finch, because for some odd reason or another, gdm won't come back(?) and I was trying to figure out how to revive it and log in with my lovely GUI.
[23:34] <PythonSnake> last line was Stopping anac(h)ronistic : cron
[23:34] <PythonSnake> help !!!!
[23:34] <westz> all you really have to type for me is "w" and press tab, it'll autocomplete
[23:34] <bazhang> PythonSnake, we saw. no need to repeat so quickly nor ask help!!
[23:35] <ohzie> tiox1: sudo service gdm stop, sudo service gdm restart
[23:35] <tiox1> PythonSnake: Please. People need help, not some madman screaming it.
[23:35] <PythonSnake> :(
[23:35] <PythonSnake> :(
[23:35] <bazhang> PythonSnake, stop that
[23:35] <AlphaPsi> westz, mneptok: Oh okay thanks, although I'm still not sure the signifence for those questions/answers
[23:35] <Madara`> i install coovachilli using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/CoovaChilli on ubuntu 9.10 Server everything is working, but! coova after that redirect me coova logo at right top without login screen any one solved this issue ?
[23:35] <THIS_IS_INSANE> I'm running a dual OS system w/ ubuntu 11.04 and XP SP3. when I boot up, there's no OS selection screen, and ubuntu boots. How do I boot back into XP
[23:35] <westz> AlphaPsi: it's basically general knowledge stuff that would come into play if installing another OS
[23:35] <mneptok> AlphaPsi: it's the same as knowing every road sign shape before you get your driver's license. there are just some things you should know.
[23:36] <ohzie> THIS_IS_INSANE: You have to modify your boot list
[23:36] <bazhang> THIS_IS_INSANE, hit shift at boot to get the grub menu
[23:36] <westz> AlphaPsi: trust me, its not that difficult a concept, and you'd rqather know before hand
[23:36] <ohzie> THIS_IS_INSANE: Or that
[23:36] <THIS_IS_INSANE> k thanks
[23:37] <AlphaPsi> westz, mneptok: Can you guys give me examples? I'm really just trying to learn now
[23:37] <westz> be back in a few...
[23:37] <|Long|> hi, i need to manually update my new DNS where do i go from ssh screen?
[23:37] <bazhang> !partition | AlphaPsi have a read please
[23:37] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and im having a problem with my dell 15'' monitor.The display has this zig zaggy heat wave effect and I dont know how to correct this or whats even wrong I cant change the refresh rate on the monitor whats going on and how do i fix it?
[23:38] <bazhang> !manual | AlphaPsi this may help too
[23:38] <Will123456> hey guys. my super button doesn't work anymore. none of the unity dash shortcuts work, even though they're still assigned when checking compiz config settings manager. how can i fix it?
[23:40] <tiox1> I prefer Partedmagic as  partitionmanager for some reason.
[23:41] <tiox1> It's great. Uses LXDE, WICD for wireless connections, pre-configured Conky, and tools using various interfaces to toy around with. System maint stuff, hard disk eraser, cool stuff like that.
[23:43] <westz> back
[23:43] <westz> btw mneptok i just saw that PM. nice
[23:44] <westz> !ping
[23:44] <pdtpatrick> Question .. my bluetooth on macbook stopped working recently. I have installed ubuntu on the laptop. How do i reconfigure bluetooth? i've done sudo dpkg-reconfigure bluez  ... that does nothing. I've stopped and started bluetooth daemon. Is there a module that needs to be loaded first? I seeing hidraw0 and hiddev0 in dmesg when the IR part starts
[23:44] <THIS_IS_INSANE> so I tried hitting shift, and I saw "GRUB loading" and then my screen went black and my monitor said "Out of Range" and I couldn't see anything. I then hit the enter key, and ubuntu booted up...
[23:45] <westz> i didnt realize ubottu had a sense of humor
[23:45] <westz> THIS_IS_INSANE: is it an lcd monitor?
[23:45] <THIS_IS_INSANE> yeah
[23:45] <westz> video card problems then
[23:45] <marsfligth> Hi, does exist in 'RSYNC' a way to make the same that does '-z' in ms 'xcopy'?
[23:46] <THIS_IS_INSANE> how do I fix that?
[23:46] <westz> make sure your video card is in the slot fully, and if it is, and its still doing it, buy a new video card
[23:46] <THIS_IS_INSANE> I have onboard graphics only.
[23:46] <WXZ> anyone ever use pinta?
[23:46] <velofille> marsfligth, what does -z do in xcopy?
[23:47] <westz> THIS_IS_INSANE: that sucks
[23:47] <AlphaPsi> When full installing do I need to partition my harddrive before or after? or does the installer have an option to modify the partitions?
[23:47] <westz> AlphaPsi: you do it in the installer
[23:48] <AlphaPsi> Oh okay, can you delete partitions from the installer, I plan to delete/remove my DATA (D:) drive
[23:48] <westz> go for it
[23:48] <rypervenche> AlphaPsi: Yep.
[23:48] <elevenpointfive> AlphaPsi: Yes, you can.
[23:49] <THIS_IS_INSANE> westz: yeah it does. what is the order for the boot menu? cause If I have the order, I can select it in the dark...
[23:49] <westz> AlphaPsi: its a partition, not a drive.
[23:49] <lddddleoo> hi have serious problem. have windows ubuntu 11.04 partition. ubuntu has become corrupted after downloading gnome app to change desktop themes etc. i have no toolbar of side widget.
[23:49] <westz> THIS_IS_INSANE: it's probably the last one in the list. is this an old installation?
[23:49] <pdtpatrick> Question .. my bluetooth on macbook stopped working recently. I have installed ubuntu on the laptop. How do i reconfigure bluetooth? i've done sudo dpkg-reconfigure bluez  ... that does nothing. I've stopped and started bluetooth daemon. Is there a module that needs to be loaded first? I seeing hidraw0 and hiddev0 in dmesg when the IR part starts
[23:49] <lddddleoo> if i use the boot recovery partition for ubuntu will it wipe all my files
[23:50] <lddddleoo> or is there another way
[23:50] <westz> pdtpatrick: sounds like your bluetooth is shot honestly
[23:50] <AlphaPsi> a drive is short for harddrive right?
[23:50] <lddddleoo> if i right click on desktop can get app launcher is there nething i can use that wont wipe files to recover ubuntu
[23:50] <westz> AlphaPsi: no, there are multiple types pof drives. disc drives, disk drives, harddrives, flash drives etc
[23:50] <THIS_IS_INSANE> westz: kinda. my last secondary HDD died, and it messed up my primary, so I did a repair installation two days ago, and got a new secondary drive and installed ubuntu on half of it.
[23:50] <marsfligth> velofille:   /Z   Copy files in restartable mode. If the copy is interrupted part  way through, it will restart if possible. (use on slow networks)
[23:50] <westz> a hard drive is a type of drive
[23:51] <lddddleoo> everything has changed to bloomin gnome
[23:51] <AlphaPsi> So my machine only has 1 hard drive with two partitions (that I know of, there may be a recovery partition I think) the (C:) partition and the (D:) partition?
[23:51] <westz> THIS_IS_INSANE: try hitting down 4 times and enter
[23:51] <lddddleoo> ne suggestions
[23:51] <THIS_IS_INSANE> okay. brb
[23:51] <westz> AlphaPsi:  correct. but i dont think you have a recovery partition
[23:52] <lddddleoo> if i use boot recovery option will it wipe my files
[23:52] <velofille> marsfligth, ahh . i think it does that by default,
[23:52] <drahst> so which virtualization platform runs the best and is most reliable on ubuntu?
[23:52] <velofille> marsfligth, but i could be wrong. alternatively just run the same rysnc again, it resumes where it left off
[23:52]  * drahst eyes dentonsvk. 
[23:52] <drahst> Identity crisis?
[23:53] <lddddleoo> ne brains here how to get back toolbar and sidebar]
[23:53] <lddddleoo> and recover corrupted ubuntu
[23:53] <dov> anyone here know how to convert a task to a calendar event in evolution?
[23:54] <robin0800_> lddddleoo: alt+f2 and type unity
[23:54] <lddddleoo> i could put files on web storage and then just reinstall i suppose. think its ubuntu one innit
[23:54] <marsfligth> velofille: thanks
[23:54] <lddddleoo> alt f2 not working
[23:54] <lddddleoo> does boot recovery option wipe everything
[23:54] <AlphaPsi> westz: Okay I checked Computer Manger and it shows three partitions on my drive
[23:55] <westz> lddddleoo: does your terminal work? (ctrl alt t)
[23:55] <lddddleoo> no
[23:55] <robin0800_> lddddleoo: must have crashed then
[23:55] <lddddleoo> just have desktop
[23:55] <lddddleoo> restart but still no luck
[23:55] <lddddleoo> i only have app launcher by right clicking desktop
[23:55] <lddddleoo> nething i can use
[23:55] <mneptok> drahst: both my wife an the COO of our company swear by the VirtualBox installs i gave them
[23:55] <mneptok> *and
[23:56] <westz> try using a different login mode (at the bottom it should say "unity" click it and change it to "classic"
[23:56] <AlphaPsi> westz: A nameless one, the (C:) one, and the (D:) one.
[23:56] <robin0800_> lddddleoo: reboot and choose classic instead of unity at logon
[23:56] <dov> anyone here using evolution tasks? or know the right channel to ask in?
[23:56] <lddddleoo> ah ok
[23:56] <lddddleoo> y did that app corrupt it
[23:56] <westz> AlphaPsi: okay so maybe you DO have a recovery partition. its not a big deal really, doesnt change your install much
[23:57] <Somelauw> Hi, can I change the save / open file dialogs somehow?
[23:57] <AlphaPsi> oh okay so I won't have to worry about it?
[23:57] <lddddleoo> i will try and save my photos of doggy first just in case
[23:57] <westz> i dont think so. it means your install will use logical partitions, but idk if it'll actually ask you about it...
[23:57] <jwash> hi everyone, can someone assist me getting my workspace situation corrected? i have enabled 4, but I can't switch between them. I do have the workspace switcher enabled and showing, but it only shows one workspace.
[23:58] <sweetest> escott: just wanted to say it works
[23:58] <sweetest> it's actually very simple to say it with xrandr
[23:58] <westz> jwash: ctrl+alt+(directional button) not working?
[23:58] <sweetest> thanks nevertheless for good will :-)
[23:58] <jwash> i'm using x11vnc
[23:59] <jwash> not working via remote
[23:59] <kingofswords> im getting 4mbps internet but for some reason my firefox is taking ages to load...is there anyting i can do to fox or check for virus....
[23:59] <AlphaPsi> westz, mneptok: Oh okay, I have to go now. Thanks for the help though
[23:59] <westz> jwash: no idea then. configure compiz to use edge switching?
[23:59] <westz> AlphaPsi: no p[roblem