[02:56] <kaStevie> Hello
[02:56] <kaStevie> I was just wondering if the design research on the software centre was available at all?
[03:18] <kaStevie> well, given I might be waiting a while for a response I may as well be m ore specific
[03:19] <kaStevie> I was currently looking for exactly who you are designing the software center for
[03:19] <hicham> for mere mortals
[03:20] <kaStevie> hicham: :) yes ofcourse
[03:21] <kaStevie> but more than mere mortals, is there some kind of archetype that is being designed for?
[03:28] <hicham> general users, not geeks :)
[03:29] <hicham> but I doubt this is the appropriate place to discuss that
[03:29] <hicham> software center isn't part of ayatana
[03:34] <kaStevie> would you know what it is part of?
[03:37] <hicham> I think #ubuntu will help you more than me
[03:40] <kaStevie> no one knows there, think I might just leave a note on the wikipage asking who owns the project / where I can get research if indeed any has been done and stuffs
[03:40] <kaStevie> thanks for your help
[03:45] <hicham> sorry, i am wrong
[03:45] <hicham> it appears that software management is part of ayatan
[03:45] <hicham> check out its page
[03:45] <hicham> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana
[03:50] <kaStevie> is research done under the umbrella of ayatana usually made available?
[04:23] <hicham> yes, of course
[04:23] <hicham> it is open source :)
[09:23] <MrGoodbyte> Hi
[09:25] <MrGoodbyte> There is a problem in Unity. It doesn't update menu of an application even if it has changed. For example, MySQL Workbench's menu changes when you create an empty project
[09:26] <MrGoodbyte> but in Unity, it stays as it started
[10:01] <andyrock> good morning
[10:01] <hicham> morning
[10:02] <hicham> there are at least two rocks in ayatana : andyrock and didrocks
[10:03] <andyrock> hicham, didrocks has the copyright ;)
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[11:47] <andyrock> compiz use glib main loop right?
[11:47] <andyrock> uses*
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[12:26] <lamalex> andyrock, yah i believe so
[12:26] <andyrock> lamalex, thx
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[12:54] <zniavre> good afternoon
[12:54] <zniavre> any chance to get notify-osd with border ?
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[15:53] <zombie_> Bug#801931 Which package should I choose for this bug? Rite now I have set it to linux but I am confused.
[15:55] <zombie_> sry wrong channel
[15:57] <thumper> jcastro: ping?
[16:11] <kenvandine> ronoc, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-sound/ifdef/+merge/66163
[16:11] <kenvandine> ronoc, i am applying that as a distro patch
[16:12] <ronoc> kenvandine, ah thanks, I'll make sure its in 0.7.3
[16:12] <kenvandine> thx
[16:31] <om26er> could anyone confirm bug 803029 in Oneiric ?
[16:31] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 803029 in unity (Ubuntu) "there is a dead indicator after network icon" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803029
[16:33] <om26er> scrub slowly (incase you are trying to reproduce)
[16:36] <om26er> compiz is eating more than 10%cpu consistently on my revived-from-death netbook, Is there anything else I could do except for reporting the bug? like some logs etc?
[16:39] <om26er> Ok, its now back to normal after something like 15mins of cpu hog.
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[20:11] <agent00tai> hi everyone, we'd like to use the unity panel service in our panel, is there any documentation on it?
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[23:02] <jtn> Anyone got time to give me some pointers on how appmenu-gtk works?
[23:03] <jtn> I'm from Freeciv upstream. appmenu-gtk seems to be stealing some of our menubars in Unity, making the game unplayable. We'd like them back ;)
[23:04] <ajmitch> jtn: you can disable it per-application with 'export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0' before running it
[23:04] <ajmitch> though that's probably not the best option compared to having them just work :)
[23:05] <jtn> Sure -- we have this workaround. I'm after something more subtle, that will allow the main menubar to be indicator-ified while keeping the embedded ones where they belong.
[23:05] <jtn> All the gory details are at <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeciv/+bug/743265>.
[23:05] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 743265 in freeciv (Ubuntu) "when using unity, the cities menu is not shown" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:06] <jtn> In the appmenu-gtk source, I found it looking for a property "ubuntu-no-proxy". Perhaps I can decorate our menubars with this? Can anyone tell me how it's intended to be used?
[23:08] <jtn> The other thing that seems odd is that appmenu-gtk is suppressing the secondary menubars, but they don't show up in the output of "dbusmenu-dumper". Which suggests that something knows somehow how to distinguish the two kinds of menubar, but is losing one of them. Is that a bug in the appmenu stuff? (I could easily have missed something.)
[23:10] <ajmitch> I suspect that most people who could help are in the wrong timezone this week
[23:12] <jtn> Oh rats, are they all in Dublin?
[23:12] <jtn> Darn, we've got a release scheduled and I was hoping to put any workaround in.
[23:13] <ajmitch> I think a number of them are
[23:13] <ajmitch> Have you tried asking on the mailing list?
[23:13] <jtn> Not yet. I'll try that next.
[23:13] <jtn> thx