[01:26] <BUGabundo> oh the moon is high, the pillow is bellow, time to shut, those that blink so
[01:26] <BUGabundo> nite
[03:09] <anadon> who do I tell about a package (nginx) which has had a major version number increase, going from beta to stable?
[03:10] <anadon> I think it needs to be added to the ubuntu repository.
[03:15] <trism> anadon: the latest version is already in oneiric, which will probably be out in october
[07:58] <AlanBell> hi
[07:59] <AlanBell> is blender installable at the moment on oneiric?
[07:59] <benonsoftware> Hay
[07:59] <AlanBell> blender : Depends: libswscale1 (>= 4:0.7~~) but it is not going to be installed or libswscale-extra-1 (>= 4:0.7~~) but it is not going to be installed
[08:31] <AlanBell> libswscale1 seems to be the broken one
[08:32] <AlanBell> installing libswscale-extra-1 separately seemed to let it past and start the blender install
[08:38] <yofel> libswscale1 is replaces with libswscale2
[08:38] <yofel> so blender needs a rebuild
[08:38] <yofel> *replaced
[08:57] <AlanBell> ok, do I need to file a bug or something or will it just happen?
[08:59] <twager> Has Evolution been dropped from oneiric ?
[09:00] <AlanBell> twager: no
[09:03] <twager> AlanBell:  Thanks
[09:05] <geser> AlanBell: you could file a bug but unless someone cares for blender, the bug will most likely get unnoticed (too much bugs for too few people). But some people are also looking at unmet dependencies so it might get fixed even without a bug filed.
[09:25] <AlanBell> if someone could confirm bug 802863 that would be great
[09:26] <AlanBell> just sudo apt-get install blender and paste in the results, you don't actually need to install it (it won't)
[11:15] <lamalex> anyone know if there was a change to GCC or something in oneiric to set -Wunused-but-set?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:58] <elros> do you know an easy way to theme lightdm?
[13:03] <zniavre> elros,  i was just starting to learn how to theme lightdm with this webpage > http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2010/07/lightdm.html
[13:20] <yofel> erm, did anyone notice that the mount output is rather short currently? http://paste.kde.org/89179
[13:20] <yofel> or when did we stop mounting /dev /dev/shm etc. as tmpfs?
[13:41] <tsimpson> and since when is /tmp a tmpfs again?
[14:37] <cmiller> Hi all.  Today's oneiric has done something screwy with my encrypted home directory.  Anyone else seen this yet?
[14:51] <yofel> tsimpson: that's my addition
[14:51] <yofel> the problem is that it mount only shows stuff defined in fstab
[14:51] <yofel> s/it//
[15:10] <warky> 11.10 sucks
[15:10] <warky> and unity sucks
[15:10] <Pici> How pleasant.
[15:12] <cmiller> Yes, let's pay attention to that guy.  He has a lot to contribute.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> positive attitude:)
[15:13] <cmiller> Has anyone using encrypted home directory updated in the last few days?
[15:16] <cmiller> I did, and rebooted to use newer kernel image, and it's mounted the encrypted home and file contents are cleartext, but the Ubuntu-specific (?) feature of encrypted filenames is broken.  That is, all filenames begin "ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.blahblahblah".
[15:28]  * cmiller downgrades  libpam-modules/natty  and libpam-mount/natty .
[15:32] <IdleOne> just noticed I am missing a couple of indicators in my panel, power indicator and the messages indicator
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> message indicator is there for me
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> i've not seen power since i updated :D
[15:39] <IdleOne> Ian_Corne: apparently I did not miss them too much since I just noticed lol
[15:39] <BluesKaj> new kernel in use..all seems ok so far
[15:40] <IdleOne> 3.0.2? I just installed it
[15:40] <IdleOne> was wondering if I should reboot or wait
[15:40] <BluesKaj> yup, just rebooted
[15:41] <yofel> works fine here too
[15:41] <yofel> add pcie_aspm=force, didn't break anything yet ^^
[15:41] <yofel> *added
[15:41] <IdleOne> good to hear, I'll reboot after this song :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, I also did a dist-update first
[15:41] <IdleOne> I have 20 packages not wanting to update. gnome-panel and friends
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> yofel: that's the fix for powermanagement?
[15:42] <IdleOne> little worried about hitting yes because it seems like it would break pretty much everything
[15:42] <BluesKaj> there were packages being kept back that were upgraded with dist-update
[15:42] <yofel> IdleOne: the workaround from phoronix, right
[15:42] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[15:43] <yofel> tab fail -.-
[15:43] <IdleOne> phoronix?
[15:43] <IdleOne> oh
[15:44] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: seems the depends issues on those help packages are "fixed" for me. dist-upgrade it is.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> err correction dist-upgrade ...forgetting my alias commands again
[15:44] <Ian_Corne> yofel: do you notice an increase in battery lifetime?
[15:45] <Ian_Corne> I'm rebooting now, but my battery is still charing
[15:45] <IdleOne> well reboot time....just when my downloads start getting a decent speed lol
[15:48] <yofel> it does seem to help a bit, but lspic still shows ASPI turned off for most cards
[15:48] <yofel> *ASPM
[15:48] <Ian_Corne> my wakeups per second have been halved
[15:49] <Ian_Corne> but it's still rediculsly hight
[15:50] <yofel> hm, why do I have nautilus running in KDE...?
[15:50] <Ian_Corne> maybe the lightdm session starts it?
[15:50] <Ian_Corne> or is under your user?
[15:51] <yofel> It's under my user, and I'm using KDM
[15:51] <Ian_Corne> very strange :D
[15:51]  * yofel uninstalls gnome again
[15:52] <CardinalFang> This is "cmiller" again.  I found the problem.  "util-linux" doesn't mount /sys any more, and ecryptfs uses that to get the file-name encryption data.  So, if you see anyone complaining of funny filenames in Oneiric, the problem is not mounted /sys, and can be fixed by a new line in /etc/fstab to mount it.
[15:53] <yofel> right, I noticed too that 'mount' for example only lists mounts that are defined in fstab
[15:53] <Ian_Corne> I don't have any other mounts atm :p
[15:54] <Ian_Corne> lol
[15:54] <Ian_Corne> i enabled USB suspend
[15:54] <Ian_Corne> and now my usb ports don't work
[15:54] <Ian_Corne> silly ports
[15:54] <Ian_Corne> powertop, u evil
[15:56] <CardinalFang> Ian_Corne, They're "suspended".  Permanently.
[15:57] <yofel> very useful...
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> wfm yofel
[16:28] <IdleOne> evolution is refusing to shutdown
[16:29] <IdleOne> tried sudo kill PID. tried killall evolution. nothing.
[16:30] <charlie-tca> What about looking in task manager to see what all is running for it?
[16:34] <IdleOne> ok well using system monitor and forcibly killing it worked
[16:37] <IdleOne> You know what would be nice, a menu with all my applications listed and categorized. Would make things a lot easier to find.
[16:37] <Ian_Corne> you have that
[16:38] <Ian_Corne> clikc the applications lense
[16:38] <Ian_Corne> then on the right top, there's a dropdown menu
[16:38] <Ian_Corne> and you can select the categories
[16:41] <IdleOne> not easily discoverable if you ask me
[16:48] <onryo> Weird I did a dist-upgrade of 11.10 and Gnome broke. Am I the only one with this problem. Using VB
[16:49] <patdk-wk> why are you using visualbasic? even ms dropped that
[16:49] <IdleOne> VirtualBox
[16:49] <patdk-wk> :)
[16:49] <IdleOne> not Visual basic
[16:49] <IdleOne> also where do i edit my startup applications?
[16:49] <IdleOne> I can't find anything anymore :/
[16:50] <onryo> what in the world is visualbasic ;) Some koodies bug?
[16:51] <yofel> virtualbox doesn't seem to recognise intel-vt accelleration anymore at least here, so that might be a reason
[16:51] <yofel> I don't have a unity VM though to check
[16:51] <onryo> yofel don't think that is the problem since I dont have vt-d or vt-x on this cpu
[16:52] <onryo> Yes I am using an x86 cpu though.
[16:52] <yofel> well, maybe the kernel broke other things too... but I'm not sure how 3D is handled though
[16:53] <onryo> could be the "lightDM" idk.
[16:54] <onryo> As much as I like gnome I never liked GDM. If I compiled it for multiseating I needed about 200mb of dependencies.
[16:55] <onryo> not to mention GDM was blotted as hell with 50k lines of code
[16:58] <yofel> well, I'm sure each of those 50k lines did something. If you implement all features from gdm in lightdm it won't be light anymore
[17:13] <Daekdroom> What features?
[17:28] <komputes> I'm running Oneric and I am unable to configure 1) Lid options  2) Auto-dim  3) Startup applications
[18:39] <carl0s-> the task switch (alt-tab) is really doing my head in. Firstly, I can't tell what an app is by the picture.. it's too rough looking, secondly, there's about a three-quarter second delay before it appears, and thirdly, I just can't get my head around what it's going to switch to if I just hit alt-tab and let go. Is there a better/alternative task switcher hotkey, like .e.g super-tab compiz-style switcher?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:02] <BUGabundo> changed WM
[22:02] <BUGabundo> now on Gnome3
[22:02] <Ian_Corne> bah BUGabundo !
[22:03] <BUGabundo> was on something "weird" before
[22:03] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:03] <BUGabundo> old classic
[22:03] <BUGabundo> (gnome 2??)
[22:07] <Ian_Corne> maybe
[22:07] <Ian_Corne> why aren't you testing unity,
[22:11] <BUGabundo> cause I can't use it
[22:11] <BUGabundo> I dislike it
[22:17] <Ian_Corne> ok
[22:18] <charlie-tca> huh? BUGabundo is not running Unity?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> well, if it is oneiric, it should at least be Unity 2D, right?
[22:29] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: never was
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Oh
[22:30] <charlie-tca> me neither, but ...
[22:32] <RRRRube> Is anyone else having problems with indicators disappearing from the top panel? The shutdown icon disappeared a couple of days back, and today the chat/social icon went. Plus the network icon is a red circle with a bar through it.
[22:34] <BUGabundo> RRRRube: if you did the last updates, sure
[22:34] <BUGabundo> its broken
[22:35] <BUGabundo> I'm holding it back
[22:35] <BUGabundo> aptitude safe-upgrade ftw
[22:35] <Daekdroom> It's part of the gtk3 transition, I presume.
[22:35] <BUGabundo> and who ever though it was a good idea to put the notification bar in the bottom, covering every applicatiom, like say PIDGIN, is a GENIOUS... NOT
[22:36] <RRRRube> OK, I wondered if it was just me! It's not a huge issue, but is a bit annoying.
[22:36] <Daekdroom> Notification bar in the bottom?
[22:36] <Daekdroom> Can't imagined that.
[22:36] <Daekdroom> *imagine
[22:36] <BUGabundo> Daekdroom: HELL
[23:50] <Adys> hm
[23:50] <Adys> i keep getting this after every apt-get upgrade:  .: 6: Can't open /scripts/casper-functions
[23:52] <BUGabundo> wfm