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Sekmhow do i fully qualify a path that is like, ~/.ssh/id_dsa ?00:00
werevealSekm: ~ refers to your home directory… cd ~ then pwd to get full path to it00:03
Sekmoh great, thankyou00:04
werevealand some might say ~/.ssh/id_dsa is a fully qualified path00:05
Sekmnot the program i'm using wereveal..00:05
werevealhehe, yeah, only on the cli basically00:06
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AlphaPsiWhen I set the windows partition to mount /windows , will it slow it down? Just setting it to mount /windows will allow me to access the file within it correct? Any other things I need to know about doing that?03:45
holsteinAlphaPsi: that should do it03:46
holsteinyou might need to mess with permissions to write there, but i forget03:46
AlphaPsiAnd Windows can by default access the other partitions right?03:47
holsteinAlphaPsi: did you go with a wubi?03:47
holsteinor is this a native install03:47
holstein?03:47
AlphaPsinative install03:47
holsteinyou can try it... i dont think windows can see ext partitions out of the box03:47
holsteinbut im sure there are tools for that03:47
AlphaPsiOh oh well, thats okay if it didn't. But would setting it to mount slow down ubuntu ? Just curious03:48
holsteinhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-read-ext3ext4-linux-partition-from-windows-7.html03:48
holsteinAlphaPsi: in theory, if you wanted it to auto mount at boot, it might take longer to boot..03:49
holsteinother than that, i dont know how you would notice03:49
holsteinspeed-wise03:49
AlphaPsiSo I probably should just set it /windows ?03:50
AlphaPsiI probably won't even notice the difference if I did than if I didn't, right?03:50
holsteinAlphaPsi: i would give it some thought... im not dual booting03:50
holsteinand you dont want to break anything in your windows partition03:50
AlphaPsiHmm true, is there anyone else with experience with this?03:51
holsteinAlphaPsi: i cant imagine how having a drive mounted or not would effect the speed of the OS03:51
holsteinAlphaPsi: sure... i mean, i have one box set up to dual boot03:51
holsteinBUT, i havent used windows on it03:51
holsteinso im not going to do that next time03:51
AlphaPsiMy windows partition is pretty big I think03:51
holsteini mean... do you need it?03:51
AlphaPsiI dont think so03:52
AlphaPsiprobably not03:52
holsteini think most guys have a windows OS part, a linux OS part, and some kind of comfortable shared partition03:52
holsteinassuming you need that03:52
AlphaPsiA shared partition?03:53
AlphaPsiHow would I set that up?03:53
holsteinAlphaPsi: lots of ways03:53
holsteinsomething that both OS's use.. like a FAT32 partition that both OS's boot at login03:53
holsteinthen, you dont have to mount the windows OS partition03:54
holstein*not that theres anything wrong with that03:54
holsteini say, just use what you got, and see what you need03:54
AlphaPsiHmm I /can/ make it so its mounted later on after I install right?03:54
holsteinyou can always just pop in nautilus and navigate that windows partition for a file real quick03:54
holsteinAlphaPsi: you can make if do literally whatever you want :)03:55
holstein*within reason03:55
AlphaPsihaha alright, but how easy would making the partition mounted?03:55
holsteinAlphaPsi: at boot?03:55
holsteinyou edit a file03:55
AlphaPsiWait03:56
AlphaPsiWhat do you mean at boot? I don't think I'm understanding03:56
AlphaPsiI'm very new to this in general03:56
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab03:56
holsteinAlphaPsi: when you log into ubuntu, the windows partition is mounted where ever you want it mounted03:56
holsteinautomatically.. at boot03:56
AlphaPsiso  I can literally set it up so its mounted at /ldjkgaskdhgakjsdhgakshdgkh if I wanted to?03:57
holsteinsure03:57
AlphaPsiHmm I probably won't set it mounted for now03:58
AlphaPsiI don't think I would even use it really03:58
holsteini set it up once, just to see it in action03:58
holsteini didnt use it at all though03:58
holsteini have an audio production machine that mounts an extra internal drive i use to record audio onto03:59
holsteinthat gets mounted at boot to ~/audio03:59
holsteinor ~/tracker ? something like that03:59
AlphaPsiextra internal drive as in a partition?03:59
AlphaPsior?03:59
holsteinits just one big partition on there, yeah04:00
AlphaPsiMeh I don't think I even have files of importance/interest in the windows partition04:01
AlphaPsiSo I won't haha04:01
AlphaPsiHmm although I may make a shared partition04:01
AlphaPsiWhats the difference with FAT32 and Ext4?04:02
holsteinwell, if you are linux only, you want ext4 (arguably)04:02
holsteinif not, then FAT32 is actually not a bad file system that mac win and lin can use with decent support all around04:03
holsteintheres a limit to filesize with FAT32 i think04:03
holsteinsomething big though...04:03
* holstein looking04:03
holsteinhttp://www.genie9.com/support/kb/KnowledgeArticle.aspx?KBID=113+04:04
holstein4GB's is the limit04:04
holsteinntfs is not bad, but OSX doesnt seem to like it04:04
holsteinat least thats been my finding04:04
AlphaPsiI don't think I'll hit that problem. Although I'm thinking of making a maybe 10GB partition thats shared, then the rest is my /home04:05
AlphaPsiis that a good idea?04:05
holsteinAlphaPsi: you can always do ext, and use ext2read from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/04:05
holsteinAlphaPsi: really depends on what you need04:06
holsteini say, keep your data backed up, and your options open04:06
holsteintry and live in it for a while, and see what you really want/need04:06
AlphaPsiHmm alright I think I'm not going to make a shared partition nor mount the windows, I probably won't even use it heh04:07
AlphaPsiHaha, alright thanks holstein :) I'm going to do a native install now I guess04:08
seidosanyone know how to run tuxtype in a window?05:23
robbmunsonI thought it originally did this?05:23
seidoshmmm, could be05:24
selyndaok so I was trying to play battle for wesnoth and when I run the program, it changes the screen resolution, then crashes, but I don't see the main title screen or anything, just my desktop, any ideas on what would cause this or even how to fix it?05:52
holsteinselynda: my guess would be the graphics driver05:53
holsteinselynda: you can try starting the game from the terminal05:54
holsteinsee if you get any helpful error information05:54
selyndagood idea, am reinstalling right now, to see if that will do anything to05:57
holsteinselynda: you can try stepping a version up or down on wesnoth05:58
selyndatrue, but 1.8 was working fine just a few days ago05:59
holsteinselynda: OH.. you didnt say that05:59
holsteinso, it was working fine?05:59
selyndasoeey, yes it WAS working fine, now not so much06:01
selynda*sorry06:01
holsteinselynda: you did an update, i assume?06:01
holsteinand things went sour?06:01
selyndaI did a system update yes06:01
holsteinits really easy to go and boot into an older kernel06:01
holsteinsome other things are more challenging to troubleshoot06:02
holsteintry and see what exactly got updated last upgrad06:02
holsteine06:02
holsteinthe temporary fix'll be downgrading whatever broke it06:02
holsteinyou'd need to find/make a bug report, and start pestering the proper folk06:03
selynda_how do I see a history of what was updated?06:05
holsteinselynda_: check in synaptic06:06
holsteinfile - history06:06
selynda_http://pastebin.com/NMgg6hGE06:10
holsteinselynda_: hey, that looks easy enough :)06:10
selynda_please tell me you're being sarcastic :P because I can't tell what it would be....06:12
holsteinselynda_: i was thinking you'd get a list of like 100+ packages06:12
holsteinmy vote is one of the python updates06:13
selynda_that would make sense.....06:13
selynda_well I could try to reinstall video drivers, but I can't remember the command line to see which video driver/cards are installed06:14
holsteinyou could try something like https://launchpad.net/~vincent-c/+archive/wesnoth as well06:15
holsteinselynda_: nah, i might be wrong, but i dont think its going to be the graphics driver now that you've sais it used to work fine06:15
selynda_ok06:16
holsteinim out... good luck :)06:19
selynda_this is strange....06:20
selynda_http://pastebin.com/5x5qNnSd06:20
selynda_after I press "y" to install it aborts....06:20
selynda_nevermind, it has to be a "Y" as opposed to a "y".....06:22
firstIRCtestAs you see from the name, I'm trying out IRC for the first time. Just seeing if anyone is there and trying to figure out how this works.06:37
akshatjfirstIRCtest: try /me <some random thing you want to say>06:38
akshatjlike /me is happy would produce06:39
* akshatj is happy06:39
* firstIRCtest I'm tying to get audio working on this machine.06:39
* firstIRCtest What does the /me thing do?06:40
* firstIRCtest I think it prints my screen name?06:40
akshatjyou can also use /action which does the same thing as /me06:40
* firstIRCtest test06:41
* firstIRCtest I love troubleshooting linux problems.06:41
akshatjfirstIRCtest: wrong usage of it :P06:42
* akshatj loves troubleshooting06:42
akshatjuse it like this06:43
* firstIRCtest says hello to everyone, and thanks for the help.06:43
akshatjno problem :)06:44
* firstIRCtest is wondering how many people tend to use IRC and why he was in the dark all this time.06:45
firstIRCtest:)06:45
s0f7_mach1no/08:02
* s0f7_mach1n finished his config of irssi08:02
* s0f7_mach1n needs to burn one and chat08:03
s0f7_mach1nanyboby know how to get links to open in browser from irssi?08:47
Unit193s0f7_mach1n: What terminal?08:47
s0f7_mach1nusing gnome-terminal08:48
s0f7_mach1nunless another is better08:49
Unit193Hmmm... Never used that one. You should be able to right click or scroller click08:52
s0f7_mach1nnvrmd08:58
s0f7_mach1nit has a built in feature that needed enabling08:58
s0f7_mach1nits almost TOO scriptable :D08:58
balaji_when using "ubuntu classic",menu bar is not displaying.. what may be the problem?09:09
s0f7_mach1nbalaji_: natty?09:11
balaji_yeah09:12
s0f7_mach1ntry ALT+F2 <gnome-panel> save desktop09:12
s0f7_mach1npressing alt+f2 should still bring up the 'run dialog"09:15
s0f7_mach1nenter gnome-panel09:15
s0f7_mach1nor gnome-panel enter09:16
s0f7_mach1nyour choice09:16
balaji_after entering gnome-panel nothing happens09:16
kristian-aalborghi, any sewers/crafters out there who know of related software for Linux?09:35
s0f7_mach1nlinux is powerful but crafts are still for humans09:44
head_victimkristian-aalborg: I've used kxstitch in the past to get cross stitch patterns for the wife.09:46
head_victimhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45015261@N04/5289751097/in/photostream/09:47
kristian-aalborghi, head_victim09:48
head_victimGday kristian-aalborg09:48
kristian-aalborglol @ the Ubuntu embroidering... lol in a good way :)09:49
head_victimShe knocked it up as a birthday present for me and framed it. It sits here on my desk in the study.09:52
kristian-aalborghead_victim, is it a heavy program to run? I see that it starts with a "K"...10:07
head_victimI'm not sure, I've only used it on a quad core with 10GB of ram so it didn't really even notice the "load"10:08
head_victimSo it might be heavy or it might be extremely light sorry10:08
kristian-aalborgnp, I'll figure it out10:09
kristian-aalborgI see there's a few pieces of software that will do this... I guess I'll find something light10:10
head_victimThat's the main one in the repos, the others you'll need to manually install or add ppa's for.10:20
kristian-aalborghead_victim, yes, I'll figure that out10:44
coalwaterhi guys10:45
s0f7_mach1nanyone got a good text to lrn perl10:53
coalwaters0f7_mach1n, i dont really know perl, u might try asking in #ubuntu-beginners-dev11:14
coalwaterif someone's around there they might know11:14
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s0f7_mach1ncoalwater: thanks11:16
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helios91hey, i just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.1017:51
helios91and my computer won't boot17:51
helios91plz help17:51
helios91it says "disconnected from plymouth"17:52
helios91does anybody know where I can get help? I tried many ubuntuforums threads17:52
helios91couldn't solve my problem17:52
helios91plz help17:52
helios91anyone?17:52
Abhijithelios91, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174778417:58
helios91@Abhijit, umm..there doesn't seem to be any solutions there?17:59
helios91plz forgive me I'm a newbie at ubuntu18:00
Abhijitok18:02
Abhijithelios91, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1719572.html18:02
helios91@abhijit, yea I looked at it before coming here. Do you know how I can 'do a clean install of 11.04 on the root partition of 10.10'?18:03
helios91and thanks a lot for replying :)18:03
Abhijithelios91, just a regular install and select the root partition of 10.10 to be root partition of 11.04 tahts it18:05
helios91so like, can you tell me what to do now? as in I'm inside a previous version of ubuntu after 11.04 failed to boot.18:06
helios91do you mean insert the 10.10 CD?18:06
helios91and do the regular installation?18:06
Abhijitnope18:07
Abhijitinsert 11.04 cd and just do the regular steps18:07
helios91I don't have the CD for that as I used the upgrade manager to upgrade to 11.0418:07
helios91What can I do from here?18:07
helios91Please refer to that thread you gave me..as I think it has the solution but I couldn't interpret it18:08
Abhijitcd of 11.04 is a must for clean install of 11.0418:09
helios91ah..so I guess I need to download it from ubuntu website and burn it?18:10
helios91or maybe create a usb from the iso image?18:10
Abhijityeah18:10
Abhijityou can create usb18:10
helios91alright man, thanks a lot for the help. Much appreciated!18:11
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s-foxHello.19:27
gillymani have my buddys computer, and it will not boot past the HP start up screen, can i do a system recovery with out the back up disks19:37
gillymancan one one help me please19:38
holsteingillyman: unfortunately, without being in front of the machine, its challenging to say what you can and cant do19:38
gillymanwhat i mean is can i do the system recov19:39
holsteini can say, if you are not familiar with recovery techniques, and you are trying to recover lost data, you can make the issue worse19:39
holsteingillyman: you mean *can* ? like, do you have the option to?19:39
holsteinsure19:39
gillymanim just trying to get his computer going again19:39
holsteinif its hanging at the boot screen, it could be hardware19:40
gillymanthats why im asking im trying to learn how to do all of this stuff19:40
holsteinwhat i usually do is use an ubuntu live CD19:40
gillymani tryed that once and thats want is was doing19:40
holsteini take the hard drive out, or unplug it... and see if i can get a live CD to boot19:40
gillymani can get knoppics to boot19:41
holsteingillyman: if you cant get the machine to boot the live CD, then, the issue has *nothing* to do with the current hard drive, or whats on it19:41
gillymani can get it to do the live boot, just not from the hard drive19:41
holsteingillyman: from that knoppix live boot, i would want to start testing19:41
gillymanok19:42
coalwateri need help to fix my grub20:04
coalwateranyone's around20:04
coalwateri got thru the grub rescue and booted, now i want to save the settings ,but i dont know how or where20:04
Unit193coalwater: I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for, but is it this? /etc/default/grub20:06
coalwaterill check20:08
coalwaterUnit193, well, i want something that makes me choose which hda it shoulaccess20:11
coalwatershould access*20:11
coalwateri think it uses UUID20:11
coalwaterhm20:11
Unit193os-prober will check to see what operating systems you have, commenting out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub will give you the grub boot menu (I still don't seem to follow, maybe you should wait for the next person)20:14
stlsaintcoalwater: are you using legacy or 2?20:15
coalwatergrub2, its natty20:15
coalwateri already see the grub menu, because i have a windows and a previous kernel i think20:16
stlsaintcoalwater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command Line and Rescue Mode20:16
coalwaterthe pc goes into grub rescue, i printed out a grub rescue how to from work today, and when i got home it only took me 2 mins to get my self working20:17
coalwateryea i think i need to change the root UUID20:18
stlsaintcoalwater: that link should square you away20:18
coalwaterbut isn't that uuid a bit shor20:19
coalwatershort20:19
coalwaterin gparted it says the partition i want has uuid=531c0140-6715-412b-94d3-442b3e31154c20:20
coalwaterdo i remove the dashes20:20
stlsaintnope20:22
stlsaintyou mean for grub?20:22
coalwateryea20:22
stlsaintno the dashes remain20:22
coalwaterok20:24
coalwaterill reboot and try adding this uuid20:24
coalwaterbut i need to write it down first lol20:24
coalwateris there a way to list uuid from grub or something20:24
coalwaterok brb :D20:27
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coalwaterok how can i fix grub from an active session :D lol, i failed on the uuid thing20:37
holsteincoalwater: ive had success with the live CD method20:37
holsteinif you somehow got booted into the box with the issue, sudo update-grub should fix everything20:38
holsteinbut thats never been the case for me...20:38
coalwaterok holstein , ill give it one more reboot, just done the update, and i did something before grub-mkconfig, w/e that is lol20:42
coalwaterholstein, nope :D needed to do grub rescue again20:44
coalwaterok a new idea to try :D rebooting20:46
coalwatervictory :D21:06
coalwaterthough i needed to use a gui app, but o well, we could learn to do it from terminal some other time lol21:07
otisthinairhello all21:46
otisthinairam I just talking to myself or are yall away?21:50
Sidewinder1otisthinair, Hi21:50
holsteinotisthinair: check out -team if you'd like to hang out and talk :)21:51
Sidewinder1otisthinair,  Or, #ubuntu-offtopic21:54
otisthinairfirst IRC, still have no idea what I am doing21:57
holsteinotisthinair: welcome to the channel21:57
holsteinwhen you join a channel, its a good idea to take a look at the topic21:58
holsteinif you dont see it at the top of your client somewhere, you can run the command21:58
holstein  /topic21:58
otisthinairso do I just type "/topic"21:59
holsteinotisthinair: try it :)22:00
otisthinairit popped up with: Usage: /topic <topic>: set the topic of the current conversation 16:5822:03
otisthinairso no topic right now?22:03
holsteinotisthinair: depends on what chat client you are using22:03
holsteinwhat are you using?22:03
otisthinairemapathy. does that make sense?22:15
Sidewinder1otisthinair, To heck with the topic (within reason), just type your question...22:17
otisthinairSorry. How would I go about changing my server?22:20

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