[00:00] how do i fully qualify a path that is like, ~/.ssh/id_dsa ? [00:03] Sekm: ~ refers to your home directory… cd ~ then pwd to get full path to it [00:04] oh great, thankyou [00:05] and some might say ~/.ssh/id_dsa is a fully qualified path [00:05] not the program i'm using wereveal.. [00:06] hehe, yeah, only on the cli basically === gpc is now known as IdleOne [03:45] When I set the windows partition to mount /windows , will it slow it down? Just setting it to mount /windows will allow me to access the file within it correct? Any other things I need to know about doing that? [03:46] AlphaPsi: that should do it [03:46] you might need to mess with permissions to write there, but i forget [03:47] And Windows can by default access the other partitions right? [03:47] AlphaPsi: did you go with a wubi? [03:47] or is this a native install [03:47] ? [03:47] native install [03:47] you can try it... i dont think windows can see ext partitions out of the box [03:47] but im sure there are tools for that [03:48] Oh oh well, thats okay if it didn't. But would setting it to mount slow down ubuntu ? Just curious [03:48] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-read-ext3ext4-linux-partition-from-windows-7.html [03:49] AlphaPsi: in theory, if you wanted it to auto mount at boot, it might take longer to boot.. [03:49] other than that, i dont know how you would notice [03:49] speed-wise [03:50] So I probably should just set it /windows ? [03:50] I probably won't even notice the difference if I did than if I didn't, right? [03:50] AlphaPsi: i would give it some thought... im not dual booting [03:50] and you dont want to break anything in your windows partition [03:51] Hmm true, is there anyone else with experience with this? [03:51] AlphaPsi: i cant imagine how having a drive mounted or not would effect the speed of the OS [03:51] AlphaPsi: sure... i mean, i have one box set up to dual boot [03:51] BUT, i havent used windows on it [03:51] so im not going to do that next time [03:51] My windows partition is pretty big I think [03:51] i mean... do you need it? [03:52] I dont think so [03:52] probably not [03:52] i think most guys have a windows OS part, a linux OS part, and some kind of comfortable shared partition [03:52] assuming you need that [03:53] A shared partition? [03:53] How would I set that up? [03:53] AlphaPsi: lots of ways [03:53] something that both OS's use.. like a FAT32 partition that both OS's boot at login [03:54] then, you dont have to mount the windows OS partition [03:54] *not that theres anything wrong with that [03:54] i say, just use what you got, and see what you need [03:54] Hmm I /can/ make it so its mounted later on after I install right? [03:54] you can always just pop in nautilus and navigate that windows partition for a file real quick [03:55] AlphaPsi: you can make if do literally whatever you want :) [03:55] *within reason [03:55] haha alright, but how easy would making the partition mounted? [03:55] AlphaPsi: at boot? [03:55] you edit a file [03:56] Wait [03:56] What do you mean at boot? I don't think I'm understanding [03:56] I'm very new to this in general [03:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [03:56] AlphaPsi: when you log into ubuntu, the windows partition is mounted where ever you want it mounted [03:56] automatically.. at boot [03:57] so I can literally set it up so its mounted at /ldjkgaskdhgakjsdhgakshdgkh if I wanted to? [03:57] sure [03:58] Hmm I probably won't set it mounted for now [03:58] I don't think I would even use it really [03:58] i set it up once, just to see it in action [03:58] i didnt use it at all though [03:59] i have an audio production machine that mounts an extra internal drive i use to record audio onto [03:59] that gets mounted at boot to ~/audio [03:59] or ~/tracker ? something like that [03:59] extra internal drive as in a partition? [03:59] or? [04:00] its just one big partition on there, yeah [04:01] Meh I don't think I even have files of importance/interest in the windows partition [04:01] So I won't haha [04:01] Hmm although I may make a shared partition [04:02] Whats the difference with FAT32 and Ext4? [04:02] well, if you are linux only, you want ext4 (arguably) [04:03] if not, then FAT32 is actually not a bad file system that mac win and lin can use with decent support all around [04:03] theres a limit to filesize with FAT32 i think [04:03] something big though... [04:03] * holstein looking [04:04] http://www.genie9.com/support/kb/KnowledgeArticle.aspx?KBID=113+ [04:04] 4GB's is the limit [04:04] ntfs is not bad, but OSX doesnt seem to like it [04:04] at least thats been my finding [04:05] I don't think I'll hit that problem. Although I'm thinking of making a maybe 10GB partition thats shared, then the rest is my /home [04:05] is that a good idea? [04:05] AlphaPsi: you can always do ext, and use ext2read from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/ [04:06] AlphaPsi: really depends on what you need [04:06] i say, keep your data backed up, and your options open [04:06] try and live in it for a while, and see what you really want/need [04:07] Hmm alright I think I'm not going to make a shared partition nor mount the windows, I probably won't even use it heh [04:08] Haha, alright thanks holstein :) I'm going to do a native install now I guess [05:23] anyone know how to run tuxtype in a window? [05:23] I thought it originally did this? [05:24] hmmm, could be [05:52] ok so I was trying to play battle for wesnoth and when I run the program, it changes the screen resolution, then crashes, but I don't see the main title screen or anything, just my desktop, any ideas on what would cause this or even how to fix it? [05:53] selynda: my guess would be the graphics driver [05:54] selynda: you can try starting the game from the terminal [05:54] see if you get any helpful error information [05:57] good idea, am reinstalling right now, to see if that will do anything to [05:58] selynda: you can try stepping a version up or down on wesnoth [05:59] true, but 1.8 was working fine just a few days ago [05:59] selynda: OH.. you didnt say that [05:59] so, it was working fine? [06:01] soeey, yes it WAS working fine, now not so much [06:01] *sorry [06:01] selynda: you did an update, i assume? [06:01] and things went sour? [06:01] I did a system update yes [06:01] its really easy to go and boot into an older kernel [06:02] some other things are more challenging to troubleshoot [06:02] try and see what exactly got updated last upgrad [06:02] e [06:02] the temporary fix'll be downgrading whatever broke it [06:03] you'd need to find/make a bug report, and start pestering the proper folk [06:05] how do I see a history of what was updated? [06:06] selynda_: check in synaptic [06:06] file - history [06:10] http://pastebin.com/NMgg6hGE [06:10] selynda_: hey, that looks easy enough :) [06:12] please tell me you're being sarcastic :P because I can't tell what it would be.... [06:12] selynda_: i was thinking you'd get a list of like 100+ packages [06:13] my vote is one of the python updates [06:13] that would make sense..... [06:14] well I could try to reinstall video drivers, but I can't remember the command line to see which video driver/cards are installed [06:15] you could try something like https://launchpad.net/~vincent-c/+archive/wesnoth as well [06:15] selynda_: nah, i might be wrong, but i dont think its going to be the graphics driver now that you've sais it used to work fine [06:16] ok [06:19] im out... good luck :) [06:20] this is strange.... [06:20] http://pastebin.com/5x5qNnSd [06:20] after I press "y" to install it aborts.... [06:22] nevermind, it has to be a "Y" as opposed to a "y"..... [06:37] As you see from the name, I'm trying out IRC for the first time. Just seeing if anyone is there and trying to figure out how this works. [06:38] firstIRCtest: try /me [06:39] like /me is happy would produce [06:39] * akshatj is happy [06:39] * firstIRCtest I'm tying to get audio working on this machine. [06:40] * firstIRCtest What does the /me thing do? [06:40] * firstIRCtest I think it prints my screen name? [06:40] you can also use /action which does the same thing as /me [06:41] * firstIRCtest test [06:41] * firstIRCtest I love troubleshooting linux problems. [06:42] firstIRCtest: wrong usage of it :P [06:42] * akshatj loves troubleshooting [06:43] use it like this [06:43] * firstIRCtest says hello to everyone, and thanks for the help. [06:44] no problem :) [06:45] * firstIRCtest is wondering how many people tend to use IRC and why he was in the dark all this time. [06:45] :) [08:02] o/ [08:02] * s0f7_mach1n finished his config of irssi [08:03] * s0f7_mach1n needs to burn one and chat [08:47] anyboby know how to get links to open in browser from irssi? [08:47] s0f7_mach1n: What terminal? [08:48] using gnome-terminal [08:49] unless another is better [08:52] Hmmm... Never used that one. You should be able to right click or scroller click [08:58] nvrmd [08:58] it has a built in feature that needed enabling [08:58] its almost TOO scriptable :D [09:09] when using "ubuntu classic",menu bar is not displaying.. what may be the problem? [09:11] balaji_: natty? [09:12] yeah [09:12] try ALT+F2 save desktop [09:15] pressing alt+f2 should still bring up the 'run dialog" [09:15] enter gnome-panel [09:16] or gnome-panel enter [09:16] your choice [09:16] after entering gnome-panel nothing happens [09:35] hi, any sewers/crafters out there who know of related software for Linux? [09:44] linux is powerful but crafts are still for humans [09:46] kristian-aalborg: I've used kxstitch in the past to get cross stitch patterns for the wife. [09:47] http://www.flickr.com/photos/45015261@N04/5289751097/in/photostream/ [09:48] hi, head_victim [09:48] Gday kristian-aalborg [09:49] lol @ the Ubuntu embroidering... lol in a good way :) [09:52] She knocked it up as a birthday present for me and framed it. It sits here on my desk in the study. [10:07] head_victim, is it a heavy program to run? I see that it starts with a "K"... [10:08] I'm not sure, I've only used it on a quad core with 10GB of ram so it didn't really even notice the "load" [10:08] So it might be heavy or it might be extremely light sorry [10:09] np, I'll figure it out [10:10] I see there's a few pieces of software that will do this... I guess I'll find something light [10:20] That's the main one in the repos, the others you'll need to manually install or add ppa's for. [10:44] head_victim, yes, I'll figure that out [10:45] hi guys [10:53] anyone got a good text to lrn perl [11:14] s0f7_mach1n, i dont really know perl, u might try asking in #ubuntu-beginners-dev [11:14] if someone's around there they might know === Abhijit is now known as Guest17393 [11:16] coalwater: thanks === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === Abhijit is now known as Guest69762 === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit [17:51] hey, i just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 [17:51] and my computer won't boot [17:51] plz help [17:52] it says "disconnected from plymouth" [17:52] does anybody know where I can get help? I tried many ubuntuforums threads [17:52] couldn't solve my problem [17:52] plz help [17:52] anyone? [17:58] helios91, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747784 [17:59] @Abhijit, umm..there doesn't seem to be any solutions there? [18:00] plz forgive me I'm a newbie at ubuntu [18:02] ok [18:02] helios91, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1719572.html [18:03] @abhijit, yea I looked at it before coming here. Do you know how I can 'do a clean install of 11.04 on the root partition of 10.10'? [18:03] and thanks a lot for replying :) [18:05] helios91, just a regular install and select the root partition of 10.10 to be root partition of 11.04 tahts it [18:06] so like, can you tell me what to do now? as in I'm inside a previous version of ubuntu after 11.04 failed to boot. [18:06] do you mean insert the 10.10 CD? [18:06] and do the regular installation? [18:07] nope [18:07] insert 11.04 cd and just do the regular steps [18:07] I don't have the CD for that as I used the upgrade manager to upgrade to 11.04 [18:07] What can I do from here? [18:08] Please refer to that thread you gave me..as I think it has the solution but I couldn't interpret it [18:09] cd of 11.04 is a must for clean install of 11.04 [18:10] ah..so I guess I need to download it from ubuntu website and burn it? [18:10] or maybe create a usb from the iso image? [18:10] yeah [18:10] you can create usb [18:11] alright man, thanks a lot for the help. Much appreciated! === gpc is now known as IdleOne === Guest60498 is now known as MichealH [19:27] Hello. [19:37] i have my buddys computer, and it will not boot past the HP start up screen, can i do a system recovery with out the back up disks [19:38] can one one help me please [19:38] gillyman: unfortunately, without being in front of the machine, its challenging to say what you can and cant do [19:39] what i mean is can i do the system recov [19:39] i can say, if you are not familiar with recovery techniques, and you are trying to recover lost data, you can make the issue worse [19:39] gillyman: you mean *can* ? like, do you have the option to? [19:39] sure [19:39] im just trying to get his computer going again [19:40] if its hanging at the boot screen, it could be hardware [19:40] thats why im asking im trying to learn how to do all of this stuff [19:40] what i usually do is use an ubuntu live CD [19:40] i tryed that once and thats want is was doing [19:40] i take the hard drive out, or unplug it... and see if i can get a live CD to boot [19:41] i can get knoppics to boot [19:41] gillyman: if you cant get the machine to boot the live CD, then, the issue has *nothing* to do with the current hard drive, or whats on it [19:41] i can get it to do the live boot, just not from the hard drive [19:41] gillyman: from that knoppix live boot, i would want to start testing [19:42] ok [20:04] i need help to fix my grub [20:04] anyone's around [20:04] i got thru the grub rescue and booted, now i want to save the settings ,but i dont know how or where [20:06] coalwater: I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for, but is it this? /etc/default/grub [20:08] ill check [20:11] Unit193, well, i want something that makes me choose which hda it shoulaccess [20:11] should access* [20:11] i think it uses UUID [20:11] hm [20:14] os-prober will check to see what operating systems you have, commenting out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub will give you the grub boot menu (I still don't seem to follow, maybe you should wait for the next person) [20:15] coalwater: are you using legacy or 2? [20:15] grub2, its natty [20:16] i already see the grub menu, because i have a windows and a previous kernel i think [20:16] coalwater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command Line and Rescue Mode [20:17] the pc goes into grub rescue, i printed out a grub rescue how to from work today, and when i got home it only took me 2 mins to get my self working [20:18] yea i think i need to change the root UUID [20:18] coalwater: that link should square you away [20:19] but isn't that uuid a bit shor [20:19] short [20:20] in gparted it says the partition i want has uuid=531c0140-6715-412b-94d3-442b3e31154c [20:20] do i remove the dashes [20:22] nope [20:22] you mean for grub? [20:22] yea [20:22] no the dashes remain [20:24] ok [20:24] ill reboot and try adding this uuid [20:24] but i need to write it down first lol [20:24] is there a way to list uuid from grub or something [20:27] ok brb :D === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:37] ok how can i fix grub from an active session :D lol, i failed on the uuid thing [20:37] coalwater: ive had success with the live CD method [20:38] if you somehow got booted into the box with the issue, sudo update-grub should fix everything [20:38] but thats never been the case for me... [20:42] ok holstein , ill give it one more reboot, just done the update, and i did something before grub-mkconfig, w/e that is lol [20:44] holstein, nope :D needed to do grub rescue again [20:46] ok a new idea to try :D rebooting [21:06] victory :D [21:07] though i needed to use a gui app, but o well, we could learn to do it from terminal some other time lol [21:46] hello all [21:50] am I just talking to myself or are yall away? [21:50] otisthinair, Hi [21:51] otisthinair: check out -team if you'd like to hang out and talk :) [21:54] otisthinair, Or, #ubuntu-offtopic [21:57] first IRC, still have no idea what I am doing [21:57] otisthinair: welcome to the channel [21:58] when you join a channel, its a good idea to take a look at the topic [21:58] if you dont see it at the top of your client somewhere, you can run the command [21:58] /topic [21:59] so do I just type "/topic" [22:00] otisthinair: try it :) [22:03] it popped up with: Usage: /topic : set the topic of the current conversation 16:58 [22:03] so no topic right now? [22:03] otisthinair: depends on what chat client you are using [22:03] what are you using? [22:15] emapathy. does that make sense? [22:17] otisthinair, To heck with the topic (within reason), just type your question... [22:20] Sorry. How would I go about changing my server?