[02:15] <chewyTree> contatced upstream and the dev refuses to fix it, what should i do?
[02:15] <chewyTree> *contacted
[02:16] <chewyTree> **this is about a bug. lol jeez im tired
[04:34] <bil21al> can we report the bugs of oneirics?? ??
[04:36] <charlie-tca> yes, of course
[04:36] <charlie-tca> please use ubuntu-bug to report them, so they get tagged correctly
[05:34] <bil21al> i want to report the bug of movie player what command should i use in terminal???
[05:35] <dtchen> bil21al: ubuntu-bug totem
[05:36] <bil21al> thankx bro
[07:17] <bil21al> after some time this is written in above and blank window appers.*Debconf on bil21al-thinkpad-t60* any one knows what is this???????
[07:17] <bil21al> this come again and again and vanished
[07:20] <bil21al> these words are written on the top and window is blank is any body knows?
[07:21] <bil21al> *debconf on bil21al-think pad-t60*
[08:40] <yofel> bil21al: Debconf is a configuration system for Debian packages, that shouldn't run by itself as long as you're not running and package management operations
[08:40] <yofel> (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
[08:44] <hggdh> right
[09:13] <AlanBell> at the moment in oneiric blender is uninstallable due to dependencies on libswscale being a bit broken, how do I report this, and do I need to?
[09:18] <hggdh> AlanBell: if blender was updated today, wait a bit to see if the dependencies get provided. By tomorrowish, if still unresolved, open a bug against blender pointing to the install failure
[09:20] <AlanBell> 5 weeks ago
[09:25] <AlanBell> bug 802863
[09:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802863 in blender (Ubuntu) "not installable on oneiric (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802863
[09:29] <wagafo> When a bug is marked as "Fixed released", what is the procedure to close it? Does the reporter have to mark it as "Invalid"?
[09:30] <jpds> wagafo: No, it's already closed.
[09:30] <wagafo> jpds: thanks!
[11:55] <mejo> hello
[11:56] <mejo> how do I mark a bug as found in another ubuntu release? I'm talking about bug #419143 and would like to mark it as found in Ubuntu Natty.
[11:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 419143 in poppler (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 5 other projects) "Printing from evince (and perhaps other GTK apps) to PostScript printers is broken ("0a" bytes inserted into PostScript output) (affects: 77) (dups: 17) (heat: 418)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419143
[11:56] <mejo> I already changed status from Invalid back to Confirmed, but I don't find the option to mark it as found in Natty.
[11:58] <micahg> mejo: why did you change the status from invalid to confirmed?  the bug isn't in cups apparently
[11:58] <mejo> but it still happens to me.
[11:59] <mejo> i guess it's in cairo or poppler
[11:59] <micahg> mejo: right :)
[11:59] <mejo> ok, will change status for cups back to Invalid, thanks for the hint
[12:00] <mejo> but do you know how to mark it as found in Natty?
[12:00] <micahg> mejo: I already changed the statuses back
[12:00] <mejo> why?
[12:01] <micahg> because a regular user can't set the triaged state, only a bug control member
[12:01] <mejo> I do discover the bug in Natty now. So it is not fixed. You may  be right, that the bug is not in cups (printing works from okular), but it still exists somewhere
[12:01] <mejo> micahg: the status should be changed to confirmed for cairo and poppler
[12:01] <micahg> mejo: a triaged state on the untargetted task means it's not fixed in the devel release yet
[12:02] <hggdh> mejo: actually, from Karmic to Natty there is a long list of fixes
[12:02] <micahg> mejo: no, triaged is more confirmed than confirmed :)
[12:02] <hggdh> so this maybe a regression, or a new bug -- but most certainly *not* the _same_ bug
[12:03] <mejo> ok, so you suggest to report a new bug?
[12:03] <mejo> against which package? cairo? poppler?
[12:07] <micahg> mejo: you might want to look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[12:08] <mejo> thanks. but this page suggests to report the bug against cups.
[12:09] <mejo> I'll do so, and add a link to bug #419143 in the description (suggesting to reassign the bug to another more appropriate package).
[12:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 419143 in poppler (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 5 other projects) "Printing from evince (and perhaps other GTK apps) to PostScript printers is broken ("0a" bytes inserted into PostScript output) (affects: 77) (dups: 17) (heat: 418)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419143
[12:10] <mejo> first, I need to find a non-private PDF that my system fails to print ;-)
[12:15] <hggdh> perfect
[12:43] <mejo> all right, submitted: #802942
[12:45] <mejo> but I fear that this will simply be marked as duplicate of #419143
[12:48] <yofel> lp 802942
[12:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802942 in cups (Ubuntu) "printing PDFs (and other complex documents) from GTK applications fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802942
[15:14] <chewyTree> anyone ssh into a server?
[15:14] <chewyTree> this seems like a pretty big bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/802997
[15:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802997 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo login cache is retained even after user logs out (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:16] <mdeslaur> chewyTree: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Sudo
[15:17] <chewyTree> mdeslaur, Thanks, ill mark it invalid
[15:17] <mdeslaur> chewyTree: thanks for reporting it, it can be surprising when it's not what we expected
[15:20] <chewyTree> mdeslaur, Now this "ticket" is retained even after the user logs out?
[15:20] <chewyTree> i would think it would wipe the cache of it
[15:21] <mdeslaur> chewyTree: yes, the ticket is retained
[15:21] <chewyTree> mdeslaur, o wow, interesting.  Thanks for the help
[15:22] <mdeslaur> chewyTree: np
[15:55] <zombie_> Bug#801931 Which package should I choose for this bug? Rite now I have set it to linux but I am confused.
[15:56] <yofel> bug 801931
[15:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 801931 in linux (Ubuntu) "ubuntu won't shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801931
[16:13] <bdmurray> zombie_: linux is the correct package for that bug
[16:27] <chewyTree> Would adobe flash plugin tools = Flash player?
[16:27] <chewyTree> for reference: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/803018
[16:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803018 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Tab that contains Flash Player leaves artifacts on other tabs. (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New]
[16:27] <chewyTree> this bug has been a pain for a while now, glad to see it got reported
[16:28] <chewyTree> but it happens in google chrome which i use, so its not which broswer you use
[16:30] <chewyTree> and the only thing coming up is adobe-flash-plugin-tools
[16:30] <chewyTree> so im guessing thats flash
[16:32] <charlie-tca> chewyTree: the actual package would be flashplugin-nonfree for that
[16:33] <chewyTree> charlie-tca, woops sorry.  thanks for clarifying
[16:33] <charlie-tca> flashplugin-nonfree includes adobe-flash-plugin-tools
[16:33] <micahg> charlie-tca: huh?
[16:34] <charlie-tca> Thanks for trying.
[16:34] <charlie-tca> micahg: did a search
[16:34] <charlie-tca> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search for it
[16:34] <micahg> charlie-tca: the multiverse package doesn't have that
[16:34] <chewyTree> ya no items were matches
[16:34] <chewyTree> when searching to add the project
[16:35] <charlie-tca> search on text, it comes up with flashplugin-nonfree
[16:35] <micahg> charlie-tca: Your search for “adobe-flash-plugin-tools” did not return any results.
[16:35] <charlie-tca> correct, which makes that an invalid package
[16:35] <charlie-tca> now tell it to continue, searching for the text itself
[16:36] <charlie-tca> it will then tell you that:
[16:36] <charlie-tca> All packages with sources matching your query "adobe-flash-plugin-tools"
[16:36] <charlie-tca> 1 -> 2 of 2 results First o Previous o Next o Last
[16:36] <charlie-tca>     flashplugin-nonfree
[16:36] <charlie-tca>     pyjamas
[16:37] <charlie-tca> Therefore, the correct source package will be flashplugin-nonfree
[16:37] <micahg> charlie-tca: what I'm saying is that's not in flashplugin-nonfree
[16:37] <charlie-tca> That's wrong
[16:37] <micahg> no, launchpad is wrong "_
[16:37] <micahg> :)
[16:37] <charlie-tca> I just pasted it to show it is
[16:37] <charlie-tca> Oh
[16:38] <charlie-tca> So what would you report the bug against? since the package is wrong
[16:38] <chewyTree> so if launchpad isnt showing up with any results for flashplugin-nonfree should i just put the text in anyway?
[16:38] <micahg> chewyTree: where did you come up with adobe-flash-plugin-tools
[16:39] <chewyTree> micahg, just went to select a project, typed in flash
[16:39] <chewyTree> and its the third one down
[16:39] <chewyTree> and i assumed that was it
[16:39] <micahg> chewyTree: heh, ok, so, flash doesn't have an upstream project
[16:40] <micahg> adobe uses a JIRA instance that we can't link to in launchpad yet due to missing functionality
[16:41] <chewyTree> micahg, so should i leave the project i selected or remove it?
[16:41] <micahg> chewyTree: here's the bugtracker: https://bugs.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[16:41] <micahg> chewyTree: no, you can remove it
[16:42] <micahg> chewyTree: change project to null, status to invalid
[16:42] <micahg> charlie-tca: idk, probably launchpad and saying the search is wrong
[16:43] <micahg> charlie-tca: maybe just ask a question against launchpad
[16:44] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:49] <chewyTree> meh, no bugs that can relate to ours.  So i have to make an account with them now so i can submit this with them?
[16:52] <micahg> chewyTree:are you using the same video driver as the user in the bug report?
[16:55] <chewyTree> micahg, i cant seem to find what video driver he is using. would it be someone in the scripts he uploaded? and as for me, what can i type into terminal to find out my driver
[16:56] <micahg> chewyTree: well, apport shows it's fglrx, do you have an ATI video card?
[16:57] <chewyTree> micahg, ya i do
[16:57] <micahg> chewyTree: on natty?
[16:57] <chewyTree> im using the proprietary fglrx driver, and yes
[16:59] <micahg> chewyTree: ok, I'd maybe throw it to the fglrx-installer package and see what they say since I don't see this behavior
[17:00] <chewyTree> ya this behavior doesnt happen all the time.  Just sometimes with mutiples tabs when you are switching back and forth, the image will get distorted on all of them
[17:00] <micahg> I have an nvidia chipset with proprietary drivers on natty
[17:04] <chewyTree> micahg, this is the closest thign i see on their bug tracker
[17:04] <chewyTree> micahg, https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-3559
[17:05] <chewyTree> but i dont think its the same thing, escept the ati video card
[17:06] <micahg> chewyTree: yeah, that's not very specific, I'd punt to the video driver to see if they think that's the cause, if not, then go ahead and open a new bug on Adobe's tracker
[17:07] <chewyTree> micahg, ya, and as for the fglrx project.  They dont use launchpad to track? cause it wants me to provide an upstream url
[17:08] <micahg> chewyTree: no upstream that we can access AFAIK
[17:11] <chewyTree> micahg, one more thing.  think you can put this as wishlist? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/803023
[17:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803023 in software-center (Ubuntu) "For Purchase Apps: Console description should be authoritative (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:13] <micahg> chewyTree: yeah
[17:13] <chewyTree> thanks for all the help
[17:13] <micahg> chewyTree: done
[17:16] <micahg> chewyTree: for the flash bug, you wanted to change the firefox task to fglrx-installer, not add a new task
[17:18] <chewyTree> micahg, i really butchered this bug, sorry.  changed
[17:20] <micahg> chewyTree: don't worry about it, you're learning how things work :)
[17:21] <chewyTree> micahg, you can say that again lol. as for the fglrx i put in, it wont allow me to add another null project, so should i just mark it invalid?
[17:22] <micahg> chewyTree: no, leave it new for now I think, it's the appropriate upstream for the current Ubuntu task
[17:23] <chewyTree> micahg, im talking about the fglrx, not the fglrx-installer i just put in
[17:24] <chewyTree> micahg, or they both stay?
[17:38] <micahg> chewyTree: they can both stay
[17:40] <micahg> chewyTree: when you make changes to a bug, it's usually good to comment on why you're making the change
[19:49] <envygeeks1> Afternoon, Evening or Morning depending on where you are.  I was wondering if somebody could tell me bug policy on closing bugs that are almost 3 years old and not updated.
[19:50] <Ampelbein> envygeeks1: hi, try to reproduce yourself or ask the reporter to test with the latest release/development version.
[19:50] <micahg> envygeeks1: depends on what you mean by not updated
[19:51] <envygeeks1> I was working on patching my ndiswrapper install this morning and was looking through ndiswrapper bugs, somebody reported a bug 3 years ago, and hasn't updated it since, nothing has gone into the bug either other then somebody reporting it as an upstream bug. So I was thinking if the author didn't think it was important enough to check up on perhaps it should be closed as nobody has updated it at all, it's still new...
[19:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 3 in mono (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Custom information for each translation team (affects: 1) (heat: 3)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3
[19:52] <micahg> envygeeks1: bug #, please?
[19:53] <envygeeks1> micahg: sure, let me go track it down real quick
[19:53] <envygeeks1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/267715
[19:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 267715 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu) "ndiswrapper -r should check its argument (heat: 3)" [Undecided,New]
[19:53] <envygeeks1> I could not reproduce the problem as I was able to do $var on my own ndiswrapper
[19:54] <micahg> envygeeks1: ugh, that looks like a security bug actually
[19:55] <envygeeks1> micahg: So I assume I should take the effort to test it a little bit more and update it myself and push it? I mean I don't mind since I'm already diving into ndiswrapper
[19:58] <micahg> envygeeks1: well, the bug is unconfirmed, if you can confirm it exists then it should probably be upstreamed and marked as a security bug as well
[19:59] <envygeeks1> micahg: alright, I shall test it after I compile ndiswrapper again from it's source and update the bug and report it upstream.
[20:00] <micahg> envygeeks1: thanks!
[22:06] <chris_99> the currently selected window moves to another workspace, when i change workspace, even when 'only on this workspace'
[22:06] <chris_99> is selected
[22:06] <chris_99> while running ubuntu 11
[22:06] <chris_99> anyone got any ideas why it's doing this, seems like unwanted behaviour
[22:08] <Alegomaster> Hi
[22:11] <Salt_water> hi
[22:17] <Alegomaster> I am new here
[22:35] <envygeeks1> Is there somebody who can triage and flag bugs as security problems?
[22:37] <dtchen> envygeeks1: sure. Which ones?
[22:37] <envygeeks1> dtchen: earlier I mentioned a bug that I was checking to see if it should be closed, I was told to validate and confirm it first, but it turned out it was worse than the original submitter thought
[22:37] <envygeeks1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/267715
[22:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 267715 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu) "ndiswrapper -r should check its argument (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:38] <envygeeks1> I was literally able to plaster my entire test system with ndiswrapper >.<
[22:41] <dtchen> did you need to be privileged to create the symlink(s) or whatnot inside /etc/ndiswrapper ?
[22:41] <dtchen> (I've marked it as a vuln)
[22:41] <envygeeks1> Yes, at the time I was elevated
[22:42] <dtchen> yeah, thought as much. If you need to be privileged already, that somewhat lessens the severity
[22:42] <dtchen> still pretty ugly, however
[22:42] <envygeeks1> I'm still doing more testing to see if I can't inject too so I'll test to see if I need to be elevated
[22:42] <envygeeks1> last night I noticed that even if a driver fails to install it still adds it, so I'm wondering if you can't inject data too
[22:44] <dtchen> true, it's clearly unintentional behaviour. IIRC one still needs to be privileged to attempt to install a driver.
[22:44] <envygeeks1> very true
[22:46] <envygeeks1> after I restore my test system I'll continue to report and update the bug, back to work on restoring it after destroying it
[23:50] <envygeeks> dtchen: So, you do not need to be elevated to delete a directory, but you do need to be elevated to delete anything in /etc because of the system permissions, it does attempt to delete it though, I was able to delete my home dir using non-elevated -r on ndiswrapper