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orangeninjaI installed xubuntu on an older p4 desktop I have and was wonddering how do I get it to see the slave HD?01:15
Unit193It should just mount it. What FS type? sudo blkid01:16
orangeninjaI think it was NTFS before.... Does linux even support NTFS?01:17
Unit193And now I'm ticked because my main flash was (barely) dban'd01:17
Unit193orangeninja: NTFS-3g01:17
orangeninjaSo that might be why I dont see it huh?01:17
Unit193What does   sudo blkid   give you?01:18
orangeninjahmmm let me try it, going into computer room now...01:18
orangeninjabooting it up now01:20
orangeninjasda1 ext4 sda5 swap  sdb1 type ntfs01:22
Unit193Can you pastebin it? (Or use pastebinit ?)01:24
orangeninjayep prob01:24
* wrst never thought he would find himself bragging on kde... but he does01:27
Unit193KDE = Kubuntu?01:27
orangeninjahttp://pastebin.com/9iviNTmZ01:27
wrstUnit193: yuck no, on arch01:28
wrstkubuntu is the absolute worst kde distro out there01:28
* wrst is in the wrong place to say that probably01:28
wrstUnit193: i'm running kde and gnome 3 and they work well together01:28
Unit193wrst: Just don't go to #kubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu and say that...01:29
wrstUnit193: no... but it really is a sorry implementation, mageia/mandriva is great, arch is great and its totally vanilla but somehow they make it slow and awful01:30
wrstin kubuntu01:30
Unit193When was the last time you tried it? (Not that I am a big fan...)01:30
wrst11.0401:30
Unit193Mka01:31
wrstits slow the effects and graphics are just not right on any of my hardware short of my sli desktop01:31
wrsti'm not a huge kde fan but 4.6 is very good01:31
Unit193orangeninja: I'm not exactly sure it's not automounting... Can you open gigolo?01:31
orangeninjawhat is gigolo?01:32
Unit193Menu/Rat > System > gigolo01:33
orangeninjafound it01:33
orangeninjait shows up there.... sorry I'm still a newb01:34
Unit193Double click it01:34
Unit193orangeninja: So am I01:34
orangeninjayeah I can see the files on it.... I guess I thiought it would show up in the "Places" area01:35
wrstUnit193: I was trying to figure out what application Rat was... :)01:36
wrstits been a while since I've used xfce01:36
Unit193I like Xubuntu...01:36
wrstUnit193: I've just never used it01:36
Unit193And Lubuntu. So I'm not exactly sure what I will put on this one...01:36
wrstprobably a really good alternate for those who are not unity fans01:37
wrstyes lubuntu is excellent01:37
Unit193The current OS on it is DBAN01:37
Unit193:D01:37
orangeninjaI have only had it for a day but it is pretty clean.01:38
wrstorangeninja: I might give it a try again, I love the ubuntu base, but I don't love unity so much :)01:46
* Unit193 Doesn't like Unity (Can't say for a fact) and wasn't too fond of gnome01:46
Unit193XFCE and LXDE are just fine though01:47
wrstUnit193: I really like gnome and gnome 3/shell but... unity, I don't care for it at all01:49
Unit193wrst: Whatever works for you! I don't have to like what you use :P (To be fair, it's not the worst)01:52
wrstha ha oh yeah Unit193 :)01:52
wrstUnit193: I prefer a rather full featured desktop, i'm not much on going the openbox, rat poison etc route01:53
Unit193wrst: I have Xubuntu, Lubuntu, a dualboot of Kubuntu (NEVER used...) and a few VMs (One is built from mini and is openbox)01:53
wrstI have tried to like kubuntu but it really stinks01:54
Unit193I'm not going to be using it... But I do like the openbox one...01:55
wrstwhen I open the kickoff menu on kubuntu its all choppy and just really not smoothe, on everything else its smoothe, but its the same way on debian also01:55
wrstopenbox looks like something I would like to mess with just don't have the time01:55
Unit193Did you see my screenshots? (And I am by far not the best person to make one...)01:56
wrstno I haven't... but would love to!01:56
Unit193I only have a few, and I have changed it a little since then...01:57
Unit193http://imgur.com/H67hc - http://imgur.com/0BiKH - http://imgur.com/UzDqc   Like I said, not the best... (And I did change some :P )01:59
wrstnice Unit19302:00
pace_t_zuluwrst: i've captured the latest big cat from cupertino02:43
wrstahh pace_t_zulu, that's a mac testing release if I'm not mistaken?02:54
pace_t_zuluwrst: pm02:55
linuxman410anyone here03:02
wrstnope :P03:06
wrsthow are you doing linuxman41003:06
linuxman410wrst nothing much what are you doing03:06
wrstnothing getting ready to head to bed in a few03:07
wrstlinuxman410: I am updating the 11.10 alpha and seeing whats going on03:07
wrstoneric is that right?03:07
Unit193wrst: May not look much different03:07
Unit193http://i.imgur.com/iHokj.png03:07
linuxman410wrst i hate to say it but i would not reccomend ubuntu to anyone anymore03:08
Unit193Not even L/X?03:08
Unit193linuxman410: ^^03:08
wrstlinuxman410: just because of unity?03:08
wrstnice Unit193 thats a nice looking desktop03:09
linuxman410Unit193 what is that screenshot from03:09
Unit193Ubuntu mini.iso ^_^03:09
linuxman410Unit193 where did you get that03:10
Unit193linuxman410: You didn't hear it from me, but fluxbuntu may very well move to debian03:10
Unit193linuxman410: I added programs/configured everything 'til I liked it03:10
Unit193(And it's not done yet...)03:10
wrstlinuxman410: your disdain for ubuntu because of unity?03:10
Unit193It's using LightDM too ;)03:10
linuxman410wrst  i do not like where ubuntu is headed there are starting to act like windows release a version buy a new computer03:11
Unit193linuxman410: I've seen you in Lubuntu, what's wrong with that one?03:12
wrstwell I don't know if its that bad but to run gnome or kde you do need more than 256MB of ram03:12
linuxman410Unit193 nothing wrong with lubuntu those guys have their head on straight03:13
linuxman410wrst to run unity you need at least 1 gig of ram03:13
linuxman410then it runs slow03:14
wrstlinuxman410: i'm sure gnome shell probably needs that03:14
linuxman410wrst that is why i am looking into lighter versions like lxde fluxbox and openbox03:15
wrstyeah but I don't think that's really ubuntu's fault its just sorta the way things are going03:15
wrstbut if you wanta  light system go with what Unit193 did the mini.iso or debian or arch or something you kinda build as you go03:16
linuxman410wrst where do you get the mini iso03:17
wrstnot for sure... better ask Unit193 for that one :)03:17
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:17
linuxman410Unit193 where is the mini iso03:17
Unit193http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10950331#post10950331 Also take a look at that03:18
Unit193I could give you my dpkg selections ;)03:19
Unit193Still not the best login: http://i.imgur.com/oAMrR.png03:25
linuxman410Unit193 do i choose second choice on mini iso03:29
Unit193Install from commandline03:29
linuxman410Unit193 use second one that says commandline install03:30
Unit193linuxman410: Yep, that's basically what I just said03:32
linuxman410Unit193 i choose expert commandline install only one that would work03:43
vychuneo/13:13
electricushere we go:  battle of the 'clouds'...  http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/28/microsoft-challenges-google-embraces-cloud-computing/15:29
electricusif M$ version involves ie, they have a loooong way to go  .. haha15:30
electricusnot even thinkable imo15:30
electricusbut because of the masses and their love of ie.. could this be the re-birth of ie?  LOL15:31
pace_t_zuluhmmm ... where is wrst16:50
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: wrst is hiding behind wrst_17:53
pace_t_zulucyberanger: that sneaky bastard17:55
cyberangerhe could be a little sneakier though17:55
* cyberanger knows he can be a real sneaky bugger17:55
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: seems I'm holding to the free tier, but my usage is equalling linode in cost17:57
cyberangerso next year I'll want to migrate back17:58
cyberanger(if I can't figure out why the difference in usage)17:58
vychuneo/18:03
=== wrst_ is now known as wrst
pace_t_zulucyberanger: something funny happened to my cloud deployment22:14
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: really, what22:16
Unit193Alrighty http://www.vincenzolarosa.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Windows-vs-Linux.jpg22:16
pace_t_zulucyberanger: not sure... but you'll probably notice i was offline for a while ... and when i was back on i had the '_' appended22:17
vychuneo/22:17
pace_t_zulucyberanger: could have just been the connection between the cloud deployment and the irc server ... on of those netsplits22:17
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: ah, only noticed a fairly big netsplit22:18
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i guess quassel core wasn't up to it22:18
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: you were'nt the only user, it looks like an irc split, not you splitting off of irc22:20
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i just don't like seeing that i disconnected22:38
pace_t_zuluanyone else a google apps user?23:14
wrstI have used them pace_t_zulu_ can't say I'm a big-time user23:18
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I have used it23:25
pace_t_zulucyberanger: so i have one of my google apps account setup as a google account as well23:28
pace_t_zulubut they failed to account for a critical detail in the migration process... which affects me directly23:28
cyberangerthat doesn't sound like a fun evening23:33

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