[03:25] <Lancelot> hi everyone
[03:26] <valorie> hi Lancelot
[03:27] <Lancelot> how's it going?
[03:29] <valorie> it's good!
[03:29] <valorie> was at Pride for part of the weekend, sorta tired, but in a good way
[03:30]  * MarkDude watched the SF parade on tv - with his grandma
[03:30] <valorie> how about you?
[03:30] <valorie> hey MarkDude
[03:30] <Lancelot> I'm good
[03:30] <MarkDude> hello valorie  Lancelot , everyone
[03:30] <Lancelot> had fun at the jazz festival
[03:30] <Lancelot> ahoy thar
[03:30] <valorie> I was marching with PFLAG as usual, and it was sorta hot
[03:30] <valorie> gave out LOTS of hugs this year
[03:31] <Lancelot> ...?
[03:31] <valorie> SF Pride is the only one I would blow off Seattle for, though
[03:32] <valorie> the timing was so great this year; everybody was happy
[03:33] <MarkDude> The Sf party stretched beyond the city borders- most cities had some signs
[03:33] <valorie> nice
[03:33] <MarkDude> And every station played gay music
[03:33] <valorie> Lancelot: what's your question?
[03:33] <valorie> "gay music"
[03:33] <valorie> lol
[03:33] <MarkDude> Like stereotype stuff, that is actually popular
[03:34] <Lancelot> I was confused when you said you gave out lots of hugs
[03:34] <valorie> MarkDude and I are both straight, if you are wondering
[03:34] <valorie> I'm a PFLAG mom
[03:34] <MarkDude> YMCA, Raining men, etc. I kid you not- most people just had a really great sense of humor
[03:34] <valorie> usually Seattle PFLAG gives out round pink stickers which everyone wants, which say "You are loved by PFLAG"
[03:34] <valorie> I decided to just give hugs instead
[03:35] <MarkDude> Hugs are better than stickers
[03:35] <valorie> we gave out stickers as well
[03:35] <valorie> if you search flickr for Seattle Pride, you'll see lots of pix
[03:35] <valorie> or Seattle PFLAG
[03:36] <MarkDude> The hug thing- is a being supportive thing, basically, I don't care what your personal deal is, I accept you 
[03:36] <MarkDude> Not to answer for you val
[03:36] <valorie> right you are
[03:36] <valorie> just people I felt wanted the hugs
[03:37] <MarkDude> lol
[03:37] <valorie> and a few whispered to me "how did you know I needed this?"
[03:37] <MarkDude> No forced hugging- of course
[03:37] <valorie> which makes me tear up
[03:37] <MarkDude> :)
[03:38] <valorie> all that lovin' is tiring though
[03:38] <MarkDude> Well it is important - more so in some cities. I have a friend that grew up in small town Nevada, she had never been in a place she could be herself
[03:38] <valorie> I came home and fell asleep last night
[03:38] <MarkDude> Sorry if I scared you with my Hippie talk Lancelot :)
[03:38] <valorie> we are changing the world, we are
[03:39]  * MarkDude kids
[03:39] <valorie> freedom and love
[03:39] <valorie> we ARE hippies, without the weed
[03:39] <MarkDude> True valorie 
[03:39] <valorie> at least most of us, without the weed
[03:39] <MarkDude> lol
[03:40]  * MarkDude is in Cali- I know law enforcement folks with medical cards
[03:40] <MarkDude> Just sayin'
[03:40] <valorie> our med. marijuana law was gutted this year
[03:40] <valorie> so there are two legalization measures coming up
[03:41] <valorie> we'll see
[03:41] <valorie> Washington is progressive at times
[03:42] <MarkDude> Did you see that pic of Bert and Ernie saying Thank you New York?
[03:42] <valorie> that's one I haven't seen yet
[03:42] <valorie> I loved the Empire State building all rainbow
[03:43] <MarkDude> Sounds cool
[03:43] <MarkDude> I posted link on FB- I will send to you
[03:44] <valorie> thanks
[03:44] <MarkDude> Just sent it
[03:44] <MarkDude> I had someone give me a bad time for it
[03:45] <valorie> really?
[03:45] <MarkDude> I always thought they were gay heroes- to some extent, like Peppermint Patty
[03:45] <MarkDude> I mean to me I knew they were gay- before I knew what it meant
[03:46] <MarkDude> Then again, I went to I'm ok - You're ok preschool
[03:46] <valorie> right -- I'm not much into labeling, but on the other hand, I grew up before Stonewall, so I had very limited knowledge about the world
[03:47] <MarkDude> I think there is a certain amount of matter of fact with it. At least in the pond I am in
[03:48]  * MarkDude never uses gay as pejorative - just as adjective
[03:51] <Lancelot> that's why we have the word "ghey"
[03:55] <Lancelot> it takes over the pejorative role
[03:56] <Lancelot> and everyone stays happy
[03:56] <valorie> right, I grew up in a fundamentalist right-wing pond
[03:56] <Lancelot> ish
[03:56] <valorie> since it sounds the same, it is the same, to me
[03:56] <valorie> better retired as an insult, all together
[03:57] <valorie> I prefer shakespearean insults when they are called for, anyway
[03:57] <valorie> more creativity, and more fun
[04:02] <MarkDude> +1 to the Bard
[04:02] <Lancelot> DID YOU JUST BITE YOUR THUMB AT ME!?!?!?!?! :p
[04:02] <MarkDude> lol
[04:03] <Lancelot> I forget the rest of the lines
[04:04] <Lancelot> something about "I will kill you all" if I remember correctly
[04:09] <MarkDude> first thing we do is kill all the lawyers has always struck me as a great line of his
[04:09] <MarkDude> Falstaff also made great impression on me as kid
[04:19] <valorie> why does this not surprise me?
[04:19] <valorie> lol
[04:43] <Lancelot> does anyone here use GNOME3?
[04:44]  * valorie uses Kubunut
[04:44] <valorie> Kubuntu
[04:44] <Lancelot> I've been considering switching to KDE
[04:44] <valorie> cool
[04:44] <valorie> I'm looking forward to meeting lotsa Gnome people at the desktop summit this August
[04:44] <Lancelot> I'm just getting up to 11.10
[04:45] <valorie> I like the people, just not the desktop
[04:45] <Lancelot> desktop summit?
[04:46] <valorie> http://desktopsummit.org
[04:46] <valorie> KDE & Gnome uber-meeting
[04:46] <valorie> KDE is sending me to Berlin
[04:46] <valorie> :-)
[04:47] <Lancelot> sounds fun
[04:48] <valorie> should be fun and work, which I love
[05:05] <Lancelot> what is it you do by the way?
[05:05] <Lancelot> I didn't get around to asking at linuxfest
[05:38] <Lancelot> I'll talk to you all later
[05:38] <Lancelot> bye
[19:34] <seattlegaucho> *yawn*
[21:14] <althara> valorie: I'm going to OSCON this year!!! :D
[21:39] <Lancelot> happy tuesday everyone
[21:43] <valorie> wooooooooooooooo!
[21:43] <valorie> good news althara
[22:00] <seattlegaucho> althara: see you there
[22:06] <valorie> which day are you going, seattlegaucho?
[22:07] <valorie> we should plan a lunch or dinner together
[22:07] <seattlegaucho> wed night and returning thur night ... only for my talk since the stoopid company doesn't endorse it :(
[22:07] <valorie> poo on your company!
[22:08] <seattlegaucho> wed night there is an O'Reilly meeting I'd like to go, but I'm OK w/ having dinner Thur and return afterwards
[22:08] <valorie> we could at least get together for drinks or something on Wed.
[22:08] <valorie> oh, cool
[22:08] <valorie> shall we exchange cell #s?
[22:14] <valorie> actually, I wonder if I'll be there on Thursday
[22:15] <valorie> Thursday is lightning talks and stuff, right?
[22:15] <valorie> I think so
[22:15] <valorie> yeah, I'll be taking off on Thursday too
[22:15] <valorie> since I'm not paid
[22:16] <valorie> but we can do dinner
[22:16] <valorie> or lunch
[22:18] <seattlegaucho> hmm ... lunch
[22:23] <valorie> when is your talk?
[22:26] <Lancelot> are these talks being broadcast?
[22:26] <Lancelot> broadcasted*
[22:29] <valorie> hmmm, I think some are
[22:29] <valorie> or at least available
[22:31] <Lancelot> yay
[22:31] <Lancelot> I'll be back later
[22:32] <seattlegaucho> http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/speaker/42826
[22:33] <seattlegaucho> it turns out my talk is in the morning so I'll be able to enjoy lunch and the afternoon in good ubuntu-us-wa company ;)
[22:37] <valorie> cool!
[22:37] <valorie> your talk sounds like it is way over my head
[22:37] <valorie> but that's not surprising
[22:38] <valorie> woah
[22:38] <valorie> they have no free option this year?
[22:39] <valorie> wth