| GridCube | ochosi is not here correct? but he reads later? i have a question regarding greybird, on xfce4-terminal the bars look different http://imagebin.org/160337 | 03:46 |
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| GridCube | i don't know if this is intented or not | 03:47 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: yes, just leave your question here, ochosi will read the backlog, if you start with his nick | 04:00 |
| GridCube | :) | 04:00 |
| charlie-tca | Most of us will check the backlog, if addressed specifically | 04:01 |
| GridCube | :D ok | 04:01 |
| GridCube | thats why i choosed to post, because else i would forgot about it | 04:02 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca, et all: I know this is kind of out there, what would be the chance of using PCManFM? (as alt or default) as it has some really nice features over Thunar | 08:04 |
| mr_pouit | when we change thunar for pcmanfm we'll also rename xubuntu to lubuntu | 09:26 |
| mr_pouit | oh, wait | 09:26 |
| mr_pouit | so, zero chance ;-) | 09:27 |
| Unit193 | I didn't think there was, it's just got a few features I'm looking for (But if we can add them ;) ) | 09:28 |
| Unit193 | I should probably say that I was looking at having the address bar and a menu option to open as root or in terminal... | 09:40 |
| mr_pouit | Unit193: you can "open a terminal here" in the context menu | 09:41 |
| mr_pouit | so you can also add a smilar action for "open as root" | 09:41 |
| Unit193 | mr_pouit: Oddly, when I use gigolo to open a folder, I don't have the terminal option anymore (And I can cd to it with the same user) | 09:46 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, it's almost 5am and I still need some sleep | 09:50 |
| charlie-tca | Anyone testing the images today/yesterday should be updating the chart, please. http://2tu.us/3dmh | 15:19 |
| GridCube | :D testing alternate x86 | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | Lost the Xubuntu session on the images again | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | it goes to Xfce session even if Xubuntu session is selected | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: ^ ^ | 17:18 |
| GridCube | charlie-tca, what's the default media player on 11.04/10? parole? | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | parole | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | and gmusicbrowser | 18:06 |
| GridCube | is there a ppa for it to 10.04? | 18:06 |
| GridCube | im searching for it, its just that exaile doesnt let me save music lists on m3u or lst, or whatever, and audacious doesnt allow drag and drop, for now i just love Decibel-audio-player, but then again it neither understand lists | 18:08 |
| charlie-tca | No, I don't believe there is | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | Why are you running 10.04? | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | upgrade to something better? | 18:09 |
| GridCube | XD jeje, parole and probation administration > ppa | 18:09 |
| GridCube | because its lts? | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | Ah, then you get to put up with LTS not having parole ;) | 18:10 |
| GridCube | and because i have installed it a week before 11.04 went live and i did not feel like changing it | 18:10 |
| GridCube | had* | 18:10 |
| charlie-tca | I think it was very unstable at that point in time | 18:10 |
| charlie-tca | We put parole in 10.10, too | 18:10 |
| charlie-tca | But I don't think it was ready for use in 10.04 | 18:11 |
| GridCube | mmm does it use media lists? | 18:11 |
| charlie-tca | I have no idea. I don't do enough with music to know much | 18:11 |
| charlie-tca | I seem to watch a video every six months, though. I also play at least one song on one cd every six months | 18:12 |
| GridCube | XD | 18:12 |
| charlie-tca | Sometimes I even play cd's for beta testing | 18:12 |
| GridCube | we do listen lots of music, my brother and I, so we like to have our lists | 18:13 |
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| GridCube | D: oh great the update manager is updating the kernel | 18:29 |
| GridCube | shouldn't that be on the latest image? the latest kernel? | 18:29 |
| ochosi | GridCube: about the terminal, it's funny you asked that because i just commited a few changes to the terminal style | 18:31 |
| ochosi | and yes, i'm aware of the tab-problem | 18:31 |
| ochosi | but i'm not sure it's really solvable in a satisfactory way | 18:31 |
| GridCube | :D | 18:31 |
| GridCube | yes i was about to say that too, the alt-tab looks funny | 18:32 |
| ochosi | alt-tab? | 18:32 |
| ochosi | you mean the window-switcher? | 18:32 |
| GridCube | yes | 18:32 |
| GridCube | i guess | 18:32 |
| ochosi | how does it look funny? | 18:33 |
| GridCube | screenshoting | 18:33 |
| GridCube | http://imagebin.org/160417 | 18:33 |
| ochosi | i mean i know how it looks, but in what respect funny? | 18:34 |
| GridCube | its not in the same grey style, its kind of violet or something | 18:34 |
| GridCube | which is weird | 18:34 |
| ochosi | it's greyblue or something, yes | 18:34 |
| ochosi | it's similar to the selection-style | 18:34 |
| ochosi | so not really entirely random | 18:34 |
| ochosi | but since we changed the selection-style, i might change that as well | 18:35 |
| ochosi | maybe darken it to black | 18:35 |
| ochosi | but i'm not entirely sure | 18:35 |
| GridCube | selection.. i see | 18:35 |
| ochosi | if you wanna see what dark looks like you can check elementary's gtk, i did their window-switcher in black | 18:35 |
| ochosi | GridCube: i'm also still considering a black panel, at least for personal use: http://imagebin.org/160421 | 18:45 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: i guess you're not a fan of that screenshot ^ , hm? ;) | 18:49 |
| GridCube | oh, the terminal bars are desinged to be used whit a black terminal XD | 18:55 |
| GridCube | i understend now | 18:56 |
| GridCube | thats why it looked weird | 18:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, i fixed the scrollbars | 18:57 |
| ochosi | but i didn't fix the tab/notebook-style of the terms yet | 18:57 |
| GridCube | i was wondering if it could be made it to be all grey in the same style than the rest of the window :^P | 18:57 |
| ochosi | what could be made grey? | 18:58 |
| ochosi | the terminal? | 18:58 |
| GridCube | the terminal yes | 18:58 |
| ochosi | hm, not sure grey would look very nice | 18:58 |
| ochosi | i think it would look rather insensitive | 18:58 |
| GridCube | in the same grey degradé | 18:58 |
| ochosi | because usually you don't write into the grey area | 18:58 |
| ochosi | or "background-area" | 18:58 |
| GridCube | true that | 18:58 |
| ochosi | we considered white/bright a while ago | 18:59 |
| ochosi | but never pulled it off | 18:59 |
| GridCube | no i understend now, the bar is meant to be used whit a black terminal, if you change it to other color it wont work | 19:00 |
| ochosi | obviously the scrollbar would have to be changed as well, yeah | 19:00 |
| ochosi | but that's not really a big deal tbh | 19:00 |
| ochosi | more a question of what we want | 19:00 |
| GridCube | cant it dinamycally change whit the main color choosed? | 19:01 |
| GridCube | thats ridicully complex, nevermind | 19:02 |
| ochosi | i don't think that's possible in gtk2 at all | 19:04 |
| ochosi | but they planned stuff like that for gtk3 | 19:04 |
| ochosi | e.g. the icons in the gnome-panel (symbolic icons) change with the bg-color | 19:04 |
| ochosi | that's why they have to be svg and monochrome | 19:04 |
| GridCube | i see | 19:04 |
| GridCube | then why don't just make it like the rest of the system? | 19:05 |
| GridCube | its funny that that only bar is different | 19:05 |
| ochosi | i wanted it to blend in with the terminal | 19:07 |
| GridCube | i see | 19:07 |
| ochosi | in the older greybird it made even more sense | 19:07 |
| ochosi | because the scrollbar always blended in | 19:07 |
| ochosi | and i guess another reason was "because i can" :) | 19:07 |
| GridCube | XD | 19:07 |
| GridCube | ok it was my faul for changing the terminal colors :P | 19:08 |
| ochosi | ;) | 19:08 |
| ochosi | that's problematic, i know | 19:08 |
| ochosi | i at first wanted to change the term bg-color to white | 19:08 |
| ochosi | but many people opposed, so we ended up keeping what we had | 19:08 |
| GridCube | i propose orange whit green font | 19:08 |
| GridCube | XD | 19:08 |
| ochosi | lol | 19:10 |
| GridCube | charlie-tca, after the update of today's image the trash folder icon from the desktop dissapeared, don't know if thats important | 19:18 |
| ochosi | bbl | 19:18 |
| GridCube | :D | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: if you want black panels, why aren't you modifying bluebird, which had them, instead of something that did not start dark | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | greybird was supposed to be lighter, not a match for dark themes | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: don't know anything about a trash can, I don't have one in Oneiric, didn't know we should have one. I kind of don't like having it, though | 21:43 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i agree with ochosi that a darker panel does look better in greybird as well. i don't see this issue as changing the direction of the theme, only an improvement to the current style. | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I guess I can go back to clearlooks then. I can't use black panels anymore then I can use white text on black background | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | The darker the panel, the lower the accessibility level goes | 21:45 |
| knome | i thought ochosi asked you if the latest version was fine, and you said yes? | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | discussion here earlier today, thinking about making panels black | 21:46 |
| knome | well, i don't agree making the panels *black* | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | 11:45:24 ochosi | GridCube: i'm also still considering a | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | | black panel, at least for personal use: | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | | http://imagebin.org/160421 | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | 11:49:35 ochosi | charlie-tca: i guess you're not a fan of | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | | that screenshot ^ , hm? ;) | 21:47 |
| knome | "at least for personal use" | 21:48 |
| knome | answer to "why not edit bluebird": he probably likes greybird more :) | 21:49 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: this panel was/is just for fun, so no worries, didn't commit it or anything | 21:57 |
| charlie-tca | okay, no black backgrounds anywhere? | 21:58 |
| ochosi | nope | 21:58 |
| * charlie-tca relaxes again | 21:58 | |
| ochosi | the only thing i'm thinking about atm is darkening the window-switcher (alt+tab) a bit | 21:58 |
| * charlie-tca must now to kick the heart again, make it calm down | 21:58 | |
| ochosi | don't worry too much, i hardly do anything dramatic or drastic without talking to people ;) | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | That is true. | 22:03 |
| knome | ochosi, except when our plan to take over the world is finished, and we will instantly change everything to black-on-black | 22:11 |
| knome | OOPS | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I guess black on black has not hurt my eyes when I see it | 22:17 |
| * charlie-tca sees it often when testing these new oneiric images :) | 22:17 | |
| ochosi | hehe | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | By the way, I found a way to consistently crash midori in Oneiric. Just use any extensions with it :( | 23:01 |
| dtchen | yikes. Is it in an existing user account and/or a new one? | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | new | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | bug 801837 | 23:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 801837 in midori (Ubuntu) "midori crashed with signal 7 in webkit_web_view_get_resource()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801837 | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | Something in webkit, I think | 23:05 |
| micahg | \o/ | 23:07 |
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