[00:07] <LINKSWORD2> *Sigh.*
[00:09] <ArchangelSe7en> what ?
[00:10] <LINKSWORD2> Boring day.
[01:06] <LINKSWORD2> Anybody know if there's a widget/app to specify a time for the system to shutdown?
[01:08] <Linkmaster> LINKSWORD2: You can write a bash script, or you can run 'sudo shutdown -r "number of minutes/hours" m/h
[01:08] <Linkmaster> *well, drop the -r part that is, that restarts it
[01:08] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:09] <IdleOne> or sudo shutdown hh:mm
[01:09] <IdleOne> to set at what time you want to shut down
[01:09] <LINKSWORD2> Cool!
[01:09] <OerHeks> Kshutdown
[01:10] <IdleOne> or install kshutdown ^^
[01:10] <IdleOne> didn't know about that :)
[01:10] <OerHeks> me 2, just googled it
[01:11] <OerHeks> 'advanced'sounds cool
[01:12] <OerHeks> i found this @ http://www.linuxnov.com/how-to-schedule-shutdown-the-system/
[01:12] <LINKSWORD2> ???
[01:12] <OerHeks> kshutdown <> gshutdown
[01:20] <LINKSWORD2> Very cool.
[01:59] <OerHeks> thunderbird 5 is out :-)
[02:03] <LINKSWORD2> That's fine, but not exceptional...
[03:10] <IdleOne> Where do I add startup applications?
[03:10] <Snowhog> IdleOne: System Settings > Startup and Shutdown
[03:12] <IdleOne> Snowhog: thank you
[04:26] <IdleOne> What an amazing thing it is to have a default music player with a lyrics plugin that actually works
[04:26] <IdleOne> I may have to get a new tattoo
[04:29] <knob> hello all
[04:31] <IdleOne> hello
[04:32] <Linkmaster> hey
[04:33] <SIR_Taco> IdleOne: of what a wolf? haha
[04:34] <IdleOne> SIR_Taco: nah
[04:34] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco! :D
[04:34] <IdleOne> there is someone I know who already has that
[04:34] <Linkmaster> IdleOne: Perhaps...a wolf in a circle?
[04:34] <SIR_Taco> IdleOne: thought you were talking about Amarok haha
[04:34] <SIR_Taco> hi Linkmaster
[04:34] <IdleOne> but maybe the Kubuntu logo to match my Ubuntu logo
[04:35] <SIR_Taco> I only have one, but I'm happy with it
[04:35] <IdleOne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/idleone so you know what I mean
[04:36] <SIR_Taco> IdleOne: very nice, I like it
[04:37] <SIR_Taco> mine's not linux related I'm afriad, so it'd be off-topic haha
[04:39] <Linkmaster> off-topic......e.e
[04:46] <IdleOne> SIR_Taco: thank you
[04:47] <SIR_Taco> you're welcome
[05:57] <Bo0m> Greetings All. Am trying to update my linux and am on kubuntu. uname -a gives me this : 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:57] <Bo0m> . Can i update to the latest? if yes, how? Thanks
[05:57] <Bo0m> when I try to use kpackagekit, it says cant upgrade. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
[05:59] <Bo0m> umnn am I in? lol this is funny..
[06:00] <OerHeks> wb Bo0m
[06:01] <Bo0m> thanks OerHeks  : )
[06:01] <OerHeks> what ubuntu version are you on ? 9.10 ?
[06:01] <Bo0m> am not sure..sorry. any command to findout?
[06:01] <Bo0m> am kinda new..sorry
[06:02] <Bo0m> umnn site indicates we need to update all the packages before going for the latest..guess thats what I should be doing
[06:03] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[06:03] <OerHeks> ah correct, update first, then distro upgrade
[06:04] <Bo0m> coolio thanks buddy. will do
[06:05] <Bo0m> OerHeks, : just wondering, do I need to update? I mean, cant I just leave what I have and move on? would it be a security issue or something?
[06:05] <Bo0m> I just dont want to mess up what I have...and am kinda tired of my windows boot looping on me for some damn reason...
[06:06] <OerHeks> i'm not sure what could happen if you won't..
[06:06] <Bo0m> ah. thanks anyways.
[08:29] <arvut> moo
[08:29] <arvut> rniŋ
[10:22] <ocs> hi. is there a multitouch pad linux-compatible?
[10:23] <faLUCE> hi. is there a multitouch pad linux-compatible?
[10:33] <valorie> boom, which kubuntu version?
[10:34] <valorie> oops
[10:34] <valorie> scroll fail
[10:34] <valorie> what do you mean by multitouch pad?
[10:34] <valorie> faLUCE?
[10:38] <faLUCE> valorie: something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ  but thiner
[10:44] <valorie> looks like an interesting summer project for young geeks
[10:45] <valorie> they are rather uninformative on the software though
[10:45] <valorie> people are hacking the Kinect though
[10:45] <valorie> i'm sure it's possible in linux
[10:51] <BATi> faLUCE: you may also look here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Multitouch/HardwareSupport and do your own research by searching google for "kubuntu multitouch" as I did...
[11:30] <Extra> Ok
[13:08] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:16] <chilmaaster> hi guys
[13:17] <BluesKaj> hi
[13:26] <chilmaaster> can pls someone tell me how dangerous a "master update" from one Kubuntu release to another.Respectiv, I'm runing 10.04 with Kernel 2.6.32 and plan to update in sooner future. Think I'll wait till 11.10 will be released. So now the acctual question: How dangerous is this process (especially if missed out one or two  releases) and will my Desktop (modified with Docks and other stuff) still be the same. U see i'm a lil scared to do this step
[13:29] <alvin> chilmaaster: Your desktop will probably remain the same, but you'll have to go from 10.04 to 10.10 first. Then go from 10.10 to 11.04.
[13:29] <alvin> 'safe' depends on the bugs you're suffering from now.
[13:30] <alvin> (10.04 is known to have problems with ATI cards, nvidia/nouveau, Intel and Matrox. Other than that, you're safe.)
[13:30] <BluesKaj> chilmaaster, if you intend to upgrade , a clean install is aleays safest , and save/backup your data first, and as alvin says you'll have to got thru 3 upgrades unless you do a clean install
[13:31] <alvin> Hmm, I meant 11.04 for the video card issues. 10.04 only has troubles with Intel and Matrox.
[13:32] <chilmaaster> thank you. well, doing all those steps 10.10,11.04,11.10 sucks  a bit
[13:32] <BluesKaj> nvidis is the most relaible , but still not perfect
[13:32] <alvin> Then again, it might work. It all depends on what you need. I had major trouble with mounting NFS drives on 10.04. That is better now, but now Ubuntu panics when unmounting NFS. You can't have everything I guess.
[13:32] <chilmaaster> "will probably be the same" is also a lil fuzzy
[13:33] <alvin> Yes, take nvidia! I dare you to resize your konsole when using the nvidia driver. ;-)
[13:33] <yofel> chilmaaster: the next release you'll be able to directly upgrade to is 12.04
[13:33] <yofel> for the ones before you need to go through all of them
[13:33] <chilmaaster> will that be the next LTS?
[13:33] <yofel> it will
[13:34] <BluesKaj> chilmaaster, if you decide on a clean install, put the OS on / partition and crate a /home partition for your data , that way the next time you want to do a clean install or upgrade all the configuration files for your apps are still saved along with all your data and mediua files
[13:35] <alvin> In KDE3, kate had a html tidy plugin. Does anyone know where I can find that now?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> chilmaaster, the next LTS is 12.04
[13:36] <BluesKaj> oops ...too busy typing and not reading again
[13:37] <chilmaaster> i mean u guys have experiences in doing Ubuntu upgrades. Just wana have some experiences, what was good and what didn't work afterwords. I know, nobody can and will say everything is def going to work. Just wana find out a tendence whether i'll do a fresh install or a uprade. Thx guys
[13:39] <alvin> chilmaaster: It all depends on what you use now and the problems you're having. There will most definately be new bugs, but they might not hinder you. I have daily kernel panics on 11.04, but you might not have them.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> alvin, really , daily ones ?
[13:40] <chilmaaster> my system is just running great :) no problems except hibernating. And i like to keep it that way  ;)
[13:40]  * BluesKaj wonders how that could be
[13:41] <yofel> the only way to get my notebook to need a frequent reboot would be to use nouveau, but the kernel is fine lately
[13:41] <alvin> BlaXpirit: Yes, I reboot daily, so it panics. (bug 769927). The reboots are because of some kded4 processes that start consuming 100% cpu after a while and slow things down (bug 333944)
[13:42] <BlaXpirit> what, sorry? :P
[13:42] <alvin> I'm also using a Kolab server, and akonadi crashes everytime I change something in korganizer.
[13:42] <yofel> you could kill -s 9 $(pidof kded4) and then just re-login
[13:42] <yofel> well, that would be akonadi's fault :/
[13:43] <alvin> Yes, I'm curious about the new kmail? Wondering whether it will be more stable.
[13:44] <alvin> Oh, and Amarok just hangs again. (can be killed) -> bug 777639
[13:44] <alvin> There are the KDE bugs and the Ubuntu bugs. Generally speaking, the Ubuntu ones are worse.
[13:45] <alvin> kded4 consuming 100% cpu can be anything. I have no idea what causes it. Just booting the system and letting it logged on for a few hours without doing anything will show the symptoms.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> havent gotten kmail to connect to my ISP's mail server since kde4.0
[13:46] <alvin> Well, that'll change. Akonadi will do the connection. Bad news, I tested this with the current version. (you can't see the mail in kmail, but akonadi will fetch it). It crashes akonadi on regular intervals.
[13:47] <yofel> alvin: kmail 4.6.0 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[13:47] <alvin> Tempting, but I'll pass :-)
[13:48] <yofel> 4.7 will probably not be much different, except I hope some bugfixes
[13:48] <alvin> It doesn't have to be different. More stable would be welcome.
[13:49] <alvin> Not that it's too bad on the KDE side. Minor annoyances.
[13:49] <yofel> true, maybe I'll see if they help a bit later, got the first rc1 draft packages for kmail done yesterday
[13:49] <alvin> (Still, I can't find HTML tidy. New functionality might be welcome here. It was there in KDE3)
[13:50] <alvin> As soon as it's in a ppa, not named 'experimental', I might update my production machine.
[13:50] <yofel> right, but we didn't feel well putting it anywhere else :/
[13:51] <yofel> for me it didn't crash, but for example it simply didn't list any mails in some of my folders :(
[13:51] <BluesKaj> kmail mdoesn't work with pophm , the hotmail contracter my ISP uses
[13:51] <alvin> A sound decision :-) Has it been tested with very large IMAP folders?
[13:51] <yofel> my IMAP account is like ~40k mails
[13:51] <yofel> ~works~, but as I said, not reliably
[13:52] <selvakumaran> hi there, any 1 using KOMODO or Aptana Studio?
[13:53] <alvin> Hmm, I have more mails. I might add that the 'not seeing some mails' is the case in the current kmail also. I then move the mail back and forth with Thunderbird. Then it'll magically reappear.
[13:54] <alvin> selvakumaran: I have Komodo edit installed. It works.
[13:54] <alvin> selvakumaran: It's not in the repositories though. Here's the packaging bug: 183492
[13:55] <selvakumaran> hi alvin, but i couldn't
[13:56] <chilmaaster> does any1 also have problems with hibernating?
[13:56] <selvakumaran> ubottu: then, i can't get installed now huh?
[13:56] <chilmaaster> it's just bad and sucks
[13:56] <BATi> alvin: AFAIK html-tidy "plugin" is history, nobody cares about tidying html, obviously... :) cannot stop you from installing html-tidy commandline and steal old script, tough :)
[13:57] <Incarus6> chilmaaster, yes, I think my nvidia driver was blacklisted after the distribution upgrade
[13:57] <selvakumaran> ubottu: :-P ok., does Aptana Studio supports?
[13:57] <Incarus6> selvakumaran, it's a machine, it cannot answer questions yet
[13:58] <yofel> !me | selvakumaran
[13:58] <alvin> BATi: That's bad news. Yes, it was a script. I'll try to find it.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, which nvidia card , havent heard of the need to blacklist any nvidia drivers , btw.
[13:59] <selvakumaran> Incarus6: :P i don't knw that,
[14:00] <selvakumaran> yofel: u  r using Aptana huh?
[14:00] <yofel> nope
[14:00] <BATi> alvin: or you can run html-tidy from kate's konsole from time to time to tidy files you are working on...
[14:01] <alvin> No, the nvidia driver is not blacklisted. Maybe it should have been done though: bug 760632
[14:01] <alvin> BATi: No, not on remote files.
[14:01]  * alvin is looking for the KDE3 source
[14:03] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, "cat /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules | grep nvidia" returns, that the nvidia module is black listed since the latest release. I comment it out but it is still not working, so I think there was a reason to black list the module ;)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, ok ,let s take a simpler approach , which driver is recommended on your machine ?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> and why would it blacklisted in hibernate?
[14:06] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, recommended? I'm using the latest proprietary driver from the nvidia website ;)
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, aha ..some of those drivers are the wrong ones ...whoever setup those recommends is mistaken over 50% of the time
[14:09] <BATi> alvin: use git repo and local clone ;)))
[14:09] <alvin> BATi: That's the thing. It's KDE3. Was that ported to git?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, believe me I've tried several of those proprietary drivers ...I have 3 nvidia cards , which i have tested
[14:10] <BATi> alvin: oh... nope, don't think so... I was talking about your work files...
[14:10] <Ddpbf> alvin: KDE3 is not ported to git
[14:10] <Ddpbf> it is discontinued in KDE
[14:11] <alvin> BATi: I see :) It's a good idea, but I'll try to find the script first.
[14:11] <Ddpbf> you could check on trinity-project
[14:11] <alvin> Ddpbf: Thought as much. But it's ok, the source can be downloaded as tarballs here: http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.10.php
[14:11] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, so that issue is related with the nvidia proprietary driver in your opinion? but why was it blacklisted then, I cant find sth. to that topic on the internet?
[14:12] <Ddpbf> it could be downloaded trough kde svn i think
[14:12] <alvin> Yes, I was thinking about searching the repo online, but I keep hitting dead links. This'll work as well. Let's see...
[14:12] <Ddpbf> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/
[14:13] <Ddpbf> alvin: do you know how to use SVN?
[14:13] <alvin> Used it a few times. Not much
[14:14] <Ddpbf> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/
[14:14] <Tm_T> alvin: for maintained KDE3-sources (for Qt4), you might be best served by using trinity sources: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/trinity/
[14:14] <Tm_T> Ddpbf: timing (:)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, did you not try additional drivers in kmenu>apps>system ?..that's where you'll find the recommended driver. As far as black listig is concerned this the first I've come across that bug.
[14:15] <Ddpbf> :)
[14:15] <Ddpbf> trinity is in stage kde 3.5.12
[14:15] <alvin> Tm_T: Thanks. I know of the trinity project, but I'm only looking for a kate script that is missing from kate in KDE4.
[14:16] <Ddpbf> alvin: #trinity-desktop
[14:16] <alvin> Might as well use that link. Thanks!
[14:16] <Ddpbf> you could ask there
[14:18] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, jockey recommends me an earlier version of that driver (270.41.06). Due to the fact, that nothing happens after I pressed the suspend button in kmenu I dont think that this is related to the graphic card driver itself, because it should do something after i comment out the blacklist line.
[14:18] <Ddpbf> is there git web ui for kde?
[14:18] <yofel> quickgit.kde.org
[14:18] <Ddpbf> thanks
[14:19] <yofel> Incarus6: what does 'upower --dump' in Konsole say for can-suspend: ?
[14:20] <Incarus6> yofel, thank you for that command. Returns "can-suspend: yes" and "can-hibernate: yes"
[14:20] <Ddpbf> what is this aki thing?
[14:20] <yofel> not sure what's wrong then. You could try to ignore the KDE buttons and directly run 'sudo pm-suspens' or 'sudo pm-hibernate'
[14:20] <Ddpbf> i see it is irc klient
[14:21] <yofel> *pm-suspend
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Incarus6, commenting out may need a reboot when dealing with X drivers
[14:22] <Incarus6> BluesKaj, yeah, I rebooted a lot between I did that and today ;)
[14:23] <Incarus6> yofel, let me try that. hopefully it will create a log file
[14:24] <yofel> there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume too, haven't tried anything from there in a long time though
[14:25]  * BluesKaj files Incarus6 nvidia situation on the 'to research " list
[14:25] <BluesKaj> damn laptops ..bloody pita
[14:26] <Incarus6> yofel, the commands are working great, thx. I'm going to ignore the kmenu buttons but Im not sure why they aren't working
[14:26] <yofel> yeah, except that I can suspend fine here...
[14:26] <yofel> well, at least something
[14:30] <Incarus6> yofel, it could be that kmenu is using the command "sudo echo mem > /sys/power/state" to suspend. When I try this in terminal it returns "No authorisation", even with sudo.
[14:30] <yofel> you can't echo + sudo like that
[14:31] <yofel> echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state
[14:31] <yofel> should work
[14:32] <Incarus6> oops, greenhorn mistake. yeah, that is working too. strange, I think im going to open a bug report. thx for the command at least I can hibernate and suspend now
[14:50] <Incarus6_> yofel, BluesKaj, thx, I fixed it. After a really annoying bug I disabled "Power Management" in the system settings (it consumed 100% CPU), I haven't realized that it was still disabled ;)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Incarus6_, glad you were able to fix it :)
[15:07] <pidus> I have a mobile broadband device that used to work fine on kubuntu 10.10 but since I upgraded to 11.04 the device refuses to connect but does get detected. What's more surprising is when I try connect the device on windows, hosted on a virtual machine it works and when its ejected from windows it starts working in linux as well. Any clue how I can avoid starting windows in VM every time
[15:09] <Ddpbf> pidus: kde-network manager does have some problems with 3g internet
[15:09] <pidus> Ddpbf: in 10.10 it worked fine! is it likely to work better in say wicd?
[15:10] <Ddpbf> not
[15:10] <Ddpbf> wicd is primarily for wireless
[15:10] <Ddpbf> wait a sec
[15:10] <Ddpbf> i believe i can find solution
[15:10] <pidus> and what could be changing when trying to connect it on windows through VM and then ejecting that starts making it work on kubuntu?
[15:10] <Ddpbf> just i need to search right thread
[15:11] <pidus> Ddpbf: it'll be great if you *can* find the solution.....or tell me some pointers
[15:12] <BATi> pidus: try something as basic as KPPP if it works... network manager still have some problems and/or regressions when it comes to 3G...
[15:13] <pidus> BATi: ok
[15:13] <Ddpbf> you could also install gnom applet
[15:13] <Ddpbf> it seem it have less porblems than plasmoid
[15:13] <BATi> pidus: eg I had the same problems like you BEFORE I've upgraded to 11.04 :)
[15:13] <Ddpbf> (gnome aplet for nm)
[15:14] <BATi> pidus: yeah, gnome network applet works fine too...
[15:14] <pidus> BATi: and was it resolved on KPPP?
[15:14] <pidus> Ddpbf: ok i'll give that a try
[15:17] <BATi> pidus: kppp is just a frontend to ppp not dependant on netwok-manager... if it works everytime, then you can use it to "get your connection going" without need to boot VB windows... and wait for networkmanager 0.9
[15:17] <pidus> BATi: oh ok...sounds great......hope it works
[15:19] <BATi> pidus: should be... networkmanager-kde is unfortunately... how to say it politely... uncomplete :)
[15:20] <pidus> :-)
[15:21] <BATi> pidus: and I agree with Ddpbf, that installing networkmanager-gnome stuff may be easier solution...
[15:22] <pidus> aha......good that i have multiple options to try
[15:34] <rdallarmi> hi, how do I configure a ps printer that is at a given ip address?
[15:36] <genii-around> rdallarmi: It already is set up and printing, or is new?
[15:37] <rdallarmi> genii-around:  it is there and printing, just first time I configure it from kde
[15:38] <alvin> rdallarmi: lpadmin -p <name> -m <driver> -v socket://<ip-address>:9100 (or LPD)
[15:40] <rdallarmi> tx all I found a way to install it with the printer configuration dialog, not too difficult, just I was puzzled as I thought none of the options let me  specify an ip address
[15:42] <genii-around> rdallarmi: Usually IPP printer, then Generic Postscript  works
[15:42] <genii-around> Apologies on lag, work is very busy
[15:43] <alvin> Hmm, if you want to do it the graphical way and choose AppSocket/HP JetDirect, ipp or LPD/LPR it should be possible. I broke the graphical wizard too much and use command line. (but mind long-standing bug 482547)
[15:43] <KubuntuSnake> Hi I switched from gnome to kde now I have fan problem my model is a42f any fix pleasE?
[15:43] <soee> is it possible to set dynamic size to desktop panel?
[15:44] <rdallarmi> oops spoken too soon, the printers goes as far as printing the test page but it does not print anything else :((
[15:47] <KubuntuSnake> Help my laptop is heating
[15:54] <thoeger> Hi folks; I've recently migrated from U- to Kubuntu, and am attemting to migrate from Thunderbird to KMail as my mail application., but I have a few problems. One is: sent messages are only saved in the sent-mail folder sometimes, and I cannot find any settings to regulate that behaviour.
[15:54] <maco> thoeger: you're using imap and want them to be stored on the server's sent mail folder?
[15:55] <thoeger> maco, yes exactly. Disconnected imap to be precise.
[15:56] <thoeger> maco, but as of now, it seems to use the local sent-mail folder, and only sometimes - sometimes the mail just disappears.
[15:57] <thoeger> Does it mean anything that I'm using sendmail rather than smtp?
[16:06] <maco> thoeger: the kmail settings have an "identity" section
[16:06] <maco> thoeger: i think if you edit the identity, it should have an option for what dir to treat as "Sent"
[16:06] <maco> in my case i set it to GMail/Sent
[16:09] <thoeger> maco, thanks that worked! Only, it was set to the local folder but replies to mails wasn't stored there it seems. Is that a feature or a bug?
[16:12] <maco> thoeger: i dont know...i send enough emails that i dont end up bothering to check whether they went into the folder
[16:13] <maco> (cuz itd be a lot of checking :P)
[16:13] <thoeger> maco, I only noticed because I have some reallly important conversations going on, in which I wanted to check what exactly I'd written and figured it wasn't where it was supposed to...
[16:18] <thoeger> And one more thing... It keeps saying KDEWallet isn't available so it won't store my passwords in encrypted form... But KDE Walet is working fine with other apps. Known problem?
[16:18] <maco> oh good thats not just me
[16:19] <maco> ive been getting that since reinstalling to 11.04
[16:19] <maco> i figured i got my backup wrong or something
[16:19] <thoeger> maco, the KDEWallet issue?
[16:19] <maco> yes
[16:19] <BluesKaj> to me kwallet is useless , wish it wasn't default ...no need for it in my situation
[16:26] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: it is very usefull
[16:26] <KubuntuSnake> Anyone have heat problem with kubuntu ?
[16:26] <Ddpbf> no need to remember thousands of passwords
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Ddpbf, for you , but not for me
[16:27] <Ddpbf> :)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I don't use or need thousands of pws
[16:27] <Ddpbf> de gustibus non disputandum est
[16:28] <KubuntuSnake> Anyone have heat problems with kubuntu and know how to ifx ?
[16:28] <KubuntuSnake> fix*
[16:29] <Ddpbf> KubuntuSnake:  no need to ask twice
[16:35] <KubuntuSnake> Anyone have heat problems with kubuntu and know how to fix ?
[16:39] <OerHeks> heat problems, good start is checking the bios, are the values of your ACPI control correct ?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> KubuntuSnake, describe your computer and it's environment
[16:41] <Ddpbf> KubuntuSnake: du you configured cpufreq
[16:42] <KubuntuSnake> Ddpbf: cpufreq ? no what is it ?
[16:54] <KubuntuSnake> .
[16:54] <James147> KubuntuSnake: "heat problems" is very vague... we cannot really help you much unless you give us more details
[16:56] <KubuntuSnake> James147: like what
[16:56] <svaksha> KubuntuSnake: the heat problem is not because of kubuntu, most likely chipset issue, lack of ventilation on your laptop, etc..
[16:57] <genii-around> Well, there have been issues with GPU fans on Nvidia cards for instance.
[16:57] <James147> KubuntuSnake: mostlikly cause is in sufficient cooling combined with abnormally high resource usage (ie, is your cpu at 100% constinatly)
[16:59] <svaksha> genii-around: yeah, nvidia is famous for that
[17:04] <BluesKaj> I already asked him describe your computer and it's environment..but there's no response..dunno how we can help if we don't know the situation
[17:05] <KubuntuSnake> BluesKaj: What do you mean ?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> exactly what I just said
[17:05] <KubuntuSnake> and I didn't had that problem with gnome
[17:06] <KubuntuSnake> BlueKaj: It's a laptop on a desk.
[17:07] <James147> KubuntuSnake: As i suggested check your resource usage..
[17:07] <James147> KubuntuSnake: see if anythings hogging the cpu
[17:08] <BluesKaj> open the system monitor , checj the cpu/process table , check what using cpu process..that could be the reason
[17:08] <James147> KubuntuSnake: Though it is an indication that your laptop cannot cool itself fast enough under load... which isnt a good thing :(
[17:08] <James147> :(
[17:09]  * BluesKaj shrugs ....heh ..he left
[17:09] <KubuntuSnake> sorry.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> back again
[17:09] <James147> BluesKaj: spoke too soon :p
[17:09] <KubuntuSnake> lol
[17:10] <BluesKaj> lol? ...uhmm ok
[17:10] <KubuntuSnake> How to check resource usage ?
[17:10] <James147> KubuntuSnake: System Monitor
[17:10] <BluesKaj> bbl ...gonna check some things
[17:11] <James147> (search for it in the menu or by alt+f2)
[17:11] <KubuntuSnake> hmm
[17:11] <KubuntuSnake> cpu 4 100%
[17:11] <KubuntuSnake> what should i do ?
[17:11] <James147> KubuntuSnake: what process is using it?
[17:11] <KubuntuSnake> ginn
[17:12] <KubuntuSnake> yeah
[17:12] <KubuntuSnake> ginn
[17:12] <KubuntuSnake> 96%
[17:12]  * James147 has never heard of that program before ^^
[17:13] <KubuntuSnake> what to do?
[17:13] <James147> KubuntuSnake: Close it ^^
[17:13] <KubuntuSnake> is it safe ?
[17:14] <James147> KubuntuSnake: I dont know what it is... dont think it part of the default kubuntu desktop so it should be safe to close
[17:14] <KubuntuSnake> thaks it worked
[17:14] <Ddpbf> KubuntuSnake: just type top in konsole and paste outpu somewhere
[17:15] <Ddpbf> ah i was to slow
[17:19] <KubuntuSnake> how to change kubuntu theme ?
[17:20] <James147> KubuntuSnake: theme of what exactly?
[17:20] <KubuntuSnake> of desktop
[17:21] <James147> KubuntuSnake: System settings > Workspace appearence
[17:21] <James147> > desktop theme
[17:22] <KubuntuSnake> stylesheet?
[17:22] <James147> No
[17:23] <James147> KubuntuSnake: desktop widget themes are set at System settings > Workspace appearnce > desktop theme.... stylesheets are used for window widget themeing in qt apps
[17:56] <Fifty-one50> Is there a way to set a different wallpaper for different desktop screens?
[17:57] <James147>  Fifty-one50: if you configure it to use a differnt widget set for each desktop then yes
[17:57] <Fifty-one50> James147: How do I do that?
[17:58] <James147> ^^ System settings > Workspace Behaviour > Virtual desktops - Check "Different widgets for each desktoP"
[17:58] <Fifty-one50> found it. Thank you!
[18:14] <amichair> isn't the dolphin-right-click samba share feature supposed to finally be fixed in Natty?
[18:18] <amichair> has anyone managed to use the gui samba shares?
[18:21] <yofel> it was, at least the fixes for 4.7 were backported to natty
[18:22] <amichair> other than adding a little globe icon to the folder, it seems to do nothing
[18:22] <amichair> and folders that were manually configured in smb.conf (and do work properly) don't appear to be shared as far as the gui is concerned
[18:22] <amichair> maybe someday...
[18:23] <PythonSnake> Hi
[18:23] <PythonSnake> Sorry
[18:23] <PythonSnake> got some computer problems
[18:23] <James147> amichair: I have a feeling it dosnt use smb.conf for setting up the shares
[18:23] <amichair> what does it use?
[18:25] <PythonSnake> Hello I  installed ubuntu now how to switch to kubuntu ?
[18:25] <PythonSnake> how to uninstall gnome programss ?
[18:27] <yofel> PythonSnake: install kubuntu-desktop, then follow
[18:27] <yofel> !purekde
[18:27] <PythonSnake> please help rekonq keep crashing with Segmentation fault
[18:27] <PythonSnake> oh thanks yofel
[18:27] <James147> amichair: I think it uses sambas usershares (a newer way let users add shares to samba without needing root "net usershare XXX" is the command line utils for it) ^^ though I do not know for sure... I am mostly guessing
[18:28] <genii-around> yofel: Is that guide updated for unity?
[18:28] <yofel> good question, probably not
[18:29] <PythonSnake> yofel: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[18:29] <yofel> use apt-get
[18:29] <yofel> ouch, that was last updated for karmic o.O
[18:29] <PythonSnake> ?
[18:30] <yofel> google around a bit, there should be an updated list somewhere
[18:30] <yofel> having gnome installed shouldn't break KDE anyway
[18:30] <PythonSnake> yofel: just using one desktop manager for nt wasting space and having doule applications
[18:31] <yofel> sure, I don't have an updated list at hand though. maybe someone else knows one
[18:34] <PythonSnake> !offtopic
[18:34] <PythonSnake> ok ubottu thanks
[19:11] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> Hi
[19:11] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> I need help for configuring konversation
[19:11] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> sorry for my nick
[19:11] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> cuz the one I use is not accepted.
[19:11] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> help ?
[19:20] <esmirlin> hey guys how can i completly reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source?
[19:25] <introuble> Hi
[19:25] <introuble> I'm trying to configure Konversation with my username PythonSnake
[19:25] <introuble> But it says it's already in use
[19:25] <introuble> how to fix it ?
[19:26] <tsimpson> you can't use a nick someone else is using
[19:27] <gene_> can anyone tell me where the volume control incremental value is storede? presently its about 6 db/step, too much
[19:27] <KubuntuSnake> tsimpson: It's my nick
[19:27] <KubuntuSnake> tsimpson: I registered it
[19:27] <KubuntuSnake> ooh
[19:28] <KubuntuSnake> [19:27] [Notice] -NickServ- You are now identified for PythonSnake.
[19:28] <tsimpson> either you have another connection, or someone is using it
[19:28] <tsimpson> then you should identify to the account, and /ns release PythonSnake  to get the nick back
[19:28] <KubuntuSnake> another connection ?
[19:28] <tsimpson> 2 clients/sessions
[19:28] <BluesKaj> KubuntuSnake, if you're still logged in as the pythonsnake even tho you swtiched nicks , you have to logoff and reconfigure the nick settings before reconnecting
[19:28] <BATi> PythonSnake is ~PythonSna@41.224.85.104 (Snake)
[19:29] <KubuntuSnake> ?
[19:29] <KubuntuSnake> I released PythonSnake
[19:29] <KubuntuSnake> now what ?
[19:30] <tsimpson> /nick to it
[19:30] <KubuntuSnake> [19:30] [Error] PythonSnake is currently unavailable.
[19:31] <tsimpson> you need to release twice
[19:31] <tsimpson> once to force the other connection off it, and once to release the protection on it
[19:31] <PythonSnake> yess
[19:31] <PythonSnake> What was that ?
[19:31] <PythonSnake> What is releasing ?
[19:31] <tsimpson> see /ns help release
[19:33] <PythonSnake> tsimpson: Thanks for the help
[19:33] <jwash> hi, i'm using an intel scsi hotswap backplane with a adaptec 29320. the backplane has a i2c connector which is not present on my motherboard or 29320 card. I'm having problems with termination, is this due to the lack of i2c support on my 29320/motherboard? what is the function of the i2c cable?
[19:35] <genii-around> jwash: You may want to ask in ##hardware
[19:36] <PythonSnake> tsimpson: How to group another nick for my account ?
[19:37] <tsimpson> PythonSnake: /nick to it then /msg NickServ group
[19:37] <PythonSnake> I tried /msg NickServ group BashSnake but it says [19:37] [Notice] -NickServ- Nick PythonSnake is already registered to your account.
[19:37] <tsimpson> no... /nick to it then /msg NickServ group
[19:37] <BashSnake> Nevermind.
[19:38] <tsimpson> "group" takes no arguments
[19:38] <tsimpson> and try not to nick spam too much please
[19:38] <JavaSnake> just wanting to register all snake nicks
[19:39] <tsimpson> would have been easier just to open another connection to do the grouping, but /parting all channels works too..
[19:39] <genii-around> Heh
[19:40] <Unit193> Why would you take all the *Snake nicks? That may not be nice to others...
[19:41] <tsimpson> people are greedy I guess
[19:41] <tsimpson> I'm pretty sure there is a limit to the number of nicks you can group anyway
[19:41] <Unit193> And they do timeout...
[19:42] <tsimpson> not automatically
[19:43] <genii-around> I think 30 days no login, someone else can request it gets freed up again if they want to use it
[19:43] <PythonSnake> Hi
[19:43] <PythonSnake> What is default torrent downloader for kde ?
[19:44] <tsimpson> there isn't a default, but ktorrent or kget
[19:45] <PythonSnake> ok
[19:45] <PythonSnake> thx
[19:48] <PythonSnake> help rekonq keeps crashing with Executable: rekonq PID: 15153 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[19:52] <PythonSnake> help..
[19:58]  * PythonSnake is away: Gone away for now
[19:58]  * PythonSnake is back.
[20:01] <esmirlin> hey i'm having problems trying to install broadcom 4311 driver on kubuntu 11.04, any help?
[20:02] <James147> !afk  | PythonSnake
[20:02] <genii-around> !bcm
[20:02] <genii-around> Hm
[20:02] <genii-around> !b43
[20:02] <genii-around> Ah
[20:03] <PythonSnake> James147: It was automatic. Sorry
[20:16] <soee> any progress with kde 4.7rc packages ?
[20:25] <PythonSnake> anyone know a fast internet browser ?
[20:25] <briandw1969> hello world
[20:25] <briandw1969> what r u using right now?
[20:25] <PythonSnake> firefox
[20:25] <PythonSnake> rekonq keeps crashing
[20:25] <PythonSnake> firefox freeze
[20:26] <briandw1969> ah
[20:26] <briandw1969> u get firefox thru kpackage install?
[20:27] <yofel> firefox works fine here, chromium (package chromium-browser) is nice too
[20:27] <briandw1969> i havent had probs with FF or chromium
[20:28] <briandw1969> rekonq crashes lil bit on me
[20:28] <yofel> soee: please track https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging - we're making progress, but shorthanded as we are it's not going as fast as we would like
[20:28] <genii-around> I have current firefox, plus firefox-trunk, both work nicely. Although npviewer.bin does freeze on occasion
[20:28] <briandw1969> how does seamonkey do in kubuntu?
[20:29] <jmut> hi. I have issue with my lenovo T520. My video card seems ok...have installed nvidia-current driver after disabling OPTIMUS from BIOS...have 3d, good resolution and all. but after I disabled OPTIMUS and had all running...I cannot change brightness anymore...it's always on max. If I try the nvidia-settings GUI..the brightness slider..it does changes ..but last only couple seconds and back to max. any clue howto diagnose the issue? Would be perfect
[20:29] <jmut> if I can change brighness even with console command
[20:30] <yofel> jmut: sec, I've the same issue on my t510
[20:31] <yofel> jmut: add
[20:31] <yofel> Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[20:31] <yofel> to the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:31] <yofel> works for me
[20:31]  * genii-around makes a note
[20:32] <jmut> yofel: this should allow my function key to work for brighntess?
[20:33] <jmut> interesting..my xorg.conf is 6 lines :) first time I see such conf
[20:34] <yofel> well, by default there isn't one, jockey just creates one so the nvidia driver gets used
[20:35] <jmut> yofel: works like a charm. thanks A LOT
[20:38] <yofel> found it somewhere in the nvidia forums, somewhat of a known issue :/
[21:39] <nerd> sleeping
[21:47] <PythonSnake> Hi
[21:49] <nerd> sleeping
[21:50] <PythonSnake> What is telepathy-logge process ?
[21:50] <nerd> I can't help you there, sorry.
[21:50] <PythonSnake> :(
[21:50] <nerd> I am not as computer savvy as some people.
[21:51] <PythonSnake> it's ok
[21:51] <nerd> You don't want me alive.
[21:57] <gene_> can anyone tell me where the keyboards volume control incremental value is stored? presently its about 6 db/step, way too much...
[22:01] <excognac> hi all
[22:02] <excognac> could a swap twice as big as RAM cause anz trouble_
[22:02] <excognac> ?
[22:05] <James147> excognac: generally upgrading ram shouldnt cause any issue, assuming the ram is compatable with your mother board
[22:09] <excognac> James147: no, I mean I installed kubuntu with 4gb ram and 7.45gb swap partition, no ram has been added
[22:09] <James147> excognac: then no... but that much swap isnt generally needed
[22:10] <James147> excognac: you only need as much swap as total memory you are going to use ^^ with 4 gigs of ram you dont really need much swap... the only exception is if you need to hybernate... then you need as much swap as the memory beeing used when you hybernate
[22:11] <excognac> ok, so why is that kde often slows down whil running 6-7 applications, and once could not restart or turn it off only using the power button on this laptop?
[22:11] <James147> excognac: the old rules that are floating around the internet of "use 2xram as swap" or 1.5x or what ever where really created when ram was expensive and small... they dont really apply anymore
[22:12] <excognac> James147: thank you
[22:13] <James147> excognac: when it starts to slow down check your system resources... see whats causing the problem (high cpu or high ram can both do that)  ^^ if it constinaly high on either then you probally have a miss behaving program thats eating up your resouces
[22:13] <excognac> ok, so now i will make both visual on the panel...
[22:14] <James147> excognac: generally incraesing the amount of swap just gives you more time untill the system is compltly unresponsive ^^ and normally it isnt much time (depending on the problem with the program)
[22:14] <tommy_> hi
[22:14] <tommy_> hola
[22:14] <James147> excognac: thus its better to find the problem program and fix it before the system crashes :)
[22:15] <KubuntuSnake> !es | tommy_
[22:15] <excognac> so how do i find it?
[22:16] <James147> excognac: resource usage? System Monitor can tell you that...
[22:16] <KubuntuSnake> excognac: I have the same problem.
[22:17] <excognac> skype uses 25% cpu
[22:18] <James147> excognac: hmm, seems quite high if its not doing anything ? single core or multicore cpu?
[22:18] <excognac> i3 2310M
[22:18] <excognac> so quite multicore
[22:18] <KubuntuSnake> how to remove rekonq ?
[22:19] <excognac> sudo apt-get remove rekonq
[22:19] <KubuntuSnake> thanks
[22:19] <excognac> or rmove
[22:19] <James147> excognac: then I would say skype is misbehaving (assuming your not in a video call or something)
[22:19] <James147> excognac: close and open it again should fix it for now ^^
[22:20] <excognac> well does not wanna be closed
[22:20] <excognac> so i kill it
[22:20] <James147> excognac: then click skype in the system monitor and click end process
[22:21] <excognac> does not wanna be ended
[22:22] <excognac> killed
[22:22] <James147> excognac: in a terminal type  "killall -9 skype"
[22:22] <James147> ^^ or right click it in system monitor > send sig > kill
[22:23] <excognac> for now it behaves well after restart but i can confirm it was usually clicking on it slowed down the entire system
[22:24]  * James147 notes that the default signal is TERM... which asks the program to exit gracefully... most should respond to this if they dont then its likly they have lost control -9 or thee KILL signal termintes a program without question
[22:24] <Guest23351> is here somebody from UK
[22:24] <James147> Guest23351: That should not matter...
[22:24] <excognac> aYE
[22:25] <KubuntuSnake> is konqueror or firefox faster ?
[22:25] <excognac> for me konqueror but i use firefox with a no script option
[22:26] <KubuntuSnake> no script ?
[22:26] <James147> excognac: if you think skype is always the problem program then its possible there is something wrong with your version ... best steps then are to reset its settings (by renaming its config files in your home) and seeing it that fixes it
[22:26] <KubuntuSnake> what is the "best" browser for you ?
[22:26] <KubuntuSnake> just opinion
[22:26] <James147> !best | KubuntuSnake
[22:26] <KubuntuSnake> ..
[22:26] <James147> KubuntuSnake: try them all see which one YOU like the best
[22:26]  * genii-around prefers firefox
[22:26] <KubuntuSnake> ok
[22:29] <KubuntuSnake> excognac: What is the script ?
[22:30] <excognac> cant find my skype directory lol
[22:31] <James147> excognac: try ~/.Skype
[22:31] <James147> ( ~ means your home, and . means its a hidden file/folder)
[22:31] <excognac> KubuntuSnake: it is an add that makes your browser supersafe but you cant watch youtubue without allowing temporarly
[22:32] <KubuntuSnake> supersafe ? :D
[22:32] <KubuntuSnake> how to do that ?
[22:32] <James147> KubuntuSnake: it stops scripts that are found on websites from executing on your computer
[22:33] <KubuntuSnake> oh
[22:33] <KubuntuSnake> that can stop some flash and other stuff
[22:33] <James147> ^^ these normally provide extra funcionality to the website, but some can be malicious
[22:33] <excognac> that is a more accurate definition
[22:33] <excognac> got skype, yes, it was hidden
[22:33] <excognac> so now?
[22:35] <James147> excognac: if you rename it (closing skype first) then that will effectivly reset skype to its default settings... restart skype then reconfigure it and see if it continues to missbehave
[22:36] <James147> excognac: if you want to restore the old settings delte the newly created .Skype dir and move the old one back again (again, close kype first) that will restore the settings
[22:36] <excognac> James147: so rename .Skype? to wjat?
[22:37] <excognac> *h
[22:37] <James147> excognac: ^^ thats generally the best method to test if there is a problem with the program your your configs for the program (generally its the configs casing a problem with the program)  ^^
[22:37] <James147> excognac: it dosnt matter... generally i add .bak or .ori  to the end of the name so i can easaly rename it again
[22:37] <excognac> ok, I see
[22:47] <Bugsbane> Any word on the street when we're going to see KDEPIM 4.6 in the repos (not the experimental ppa) or see kde 4.7 rc hit some ppa?
[22:50] <yofel> kdepim 4.6 will never hit the repos, haven't yet seen a user where it works perfectly fine, and 4.7 has kdepim bundled again. 4.7 is being worked on (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging) so "soon" in a PPA
[22:55] <Bugsbane> yofel: k. Thanks for the info. Is Kdepim 4.6 really less stable than 4.4x that already comes in the repos though? I thought it was meant to be more stable...
[22:56] <yofel> well, I can't say that 4.4 wasn't buggy, but 4.6 isn't that perfect either. Although I don't use it too much personally.
[22:56] <yofel> Feel free to try it. From what I know you can downgrade back to 4.4 again, although it's a bit fiddly to get the package deps right again (ppa-purge should work I guess)
[22:57] <Bugsbane> lol. No. I don't think anyones expecting it not to be buggy. Just seems odd to not replace something *more* buggy with something *less buggy* where available... even if the later is still fairly buggy.
[22:58] <xelister> how to turn off the fucking annoying KDE sounds?
[22:58] <Bugsbane> xelister: With a hammer (or go to notifications in system settings iirc )
[22:58] <yofel> sys sett. -> application and system notif. -> player settings
[22:59]  * Bugsbane installs experimental ppa.... upgrades... and prays...
[23:00]  * Bugsbane is such a sucker for the latest crack...
[23:01] <KubuntuSnake> !language
[23:01] <xelister> yofel: how to acess system settings?
[23:01] <xelister> how to run the system settings from terminal
[23:02] <xelister> Im on gnome
[23:02] <yofel> systemsettings?
[23:02] <xelister> yofel: meh. It should be named perhaps more like kde... something.
[23:02] <xelister> thx
[23:04] <xelister> yes quite at last \o
[23:11] <giu> ciao
[23:12] <SIR_Taco> argh
[23:13] <SIR_Taco> stupid regular expressions and javascript... blah
[23:23] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm..... Is there a way to configure which applications can run through the firewall in Kubuntu?
[23:23] <PythonSnake> help my taskbar have black strips on it
[23:23] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: just by port # I believe
[23:24] <LINKSWORD2> So no way to configure it by listing applications and setting whether they're allowed or denied?
[23:25] <LINKSWORD2> PythonSnake: You may be experiencing a low resolution on your graphics card. What type of card is it?
[23:26] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: not that I know of.... doesn't mean it doesn't exist though I guess
[23:27] <LINKSWORD2> :(
[23:27] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: GMA HD
[23:27] <LINKSWORD2> nVidia?
[23:27] <PythonSnake> intel
[23:28] <LINKSWORD2> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator....
[23:28] <LINKSWORD2> Desktop or laptop? :/
[23:28] <lcb> any good image to pdf converter? (for kde)
[23:29] <LINKSWORD2> lcb, I saw something the other day that might help.
[23:29] <PythonSnake> laptop
[23:29] <LINKSWORD2> But I'm busy at the moment.
[23:29] <lcb> hi SIR_Taco, LINKSWORD2 & all not mentioned due to space limitations
[23:29] <SIR_Taco> hi lcb
[23:30]  * LINKSWORD2 pokes lcb with a sharp stick.*
[23:30] <lcb> geeez, where LINKSWORD2?
[23:30] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. Relax. It's only a poke in the arm.
[23:31] <lcb> ahhh
[23:31] <lcb> uff
[23:31] <LINKSWORD2> PythonSnake: May I query?
[23:31] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: what program(s) are you trying to block from internet access?
[23:31] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not. Just a random curiousity.
[23:31] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[23:32] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: haha ok, well I just researched it a bit... and then general answer is "no"
[23:32] <lcb> SIR_Taco: i believe he's trying this for months - probably all 'networking'
[23:32] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: It might be some icon corrupted
[23:33] <SIR_Taco> lcb: haha ok
[23:33] <LINKSWORD2> .... It's a Dell, isn't it? :/
[23:33] <lcb> an icon on LINKSWORD2 system  is accessing the internet:? :o
[23:34] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: is that the icon for Trojan package?
[23:34]  * LINKSWORD2 slaps lcb with a rolled-up newspaper.
[23:34] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: you can close ports that certain programs use and thus making them non-internet-functional.... but you can't specify a certain program
[23:34] <lcb> :p
[23:34] <SIR_Taco> can't JUST specify a certain program... I meant
[23:35] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[23:35] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: CSI Networking, a partner of CSI Miami. they discover everything.
[23:36] <LINKSWORD2> .... Fail.
[23:38] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: without knowing what you're up to, I can't really recommend anything haha
[23:38] <SIR_Taco> or maybe I don't want to know
[23:38] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[23:38] <PythonSnake> need help for chromonium : Segmentation fault
[23:39] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: installed through your package manager?
[23:39] <LINKSWORD2> PythonSnake: What is the manufacturing company of your computer?
[23:39] <PythonSnake> SIR_Taco: Get and remove programs
[23:39] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: Asus
[23:40] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: so you typed in a console/konsole "sudo apt-get install chromium"?
[23:41] <SIR_Taco> sorry... "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[23:41] <PythonSnake> I need to uninstall it first?.
[23:43] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: no... I'm just trying to figure out how you got the package to begin with. Did you download it from the Google Chrome site? or did you install it from the command-line (like I showed)? or did you use Packagekit, or some other packaage manager?
[23:43] <LINKSWORD2> Python, I can't find an answer for your graphics issue.
[23:44] <PythonSnake> SIR_Taco: I installed with Get and Remove Programs KDE COntrol Module
[23:44] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: so what can I do ?
[23:44] <LINKSWORD2> Hang on a sec. :/
[23:45] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: ok... does it only Seg-Fault on certain sites? or all the time?
[23:45] <PythonSnake> SIR_Taco: all time.
[23:45] <PythonSnake> same error as rekonq.
[23:45] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: same site too?
[23:46] <PythonSnake> SIR_Taco: All time
[23:46] <SIR_Taco> ok
[23:46] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: preventing programs to access net -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188099
[23:46] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: Do you need a screenshot ?
[23:47] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: they both use webkit.... so that could be an issue... what version is Chrome and rekonq?
[23:48] <PythonSnake> rekonq 0.7.0 and Chromium 12.0.742.91
[23:51] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: Oh. I've found the solution.
[23:51] <LINKSWORD2> Python, this is about the only thing I can find for you.... https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switchi...-hardware.html
[23:51] <LINKSWORD2> .... D'oh!
[23:51] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: It was themes
[23:52] <PythonSnake> LINKSWORD2: Thanks anyway :)
[23:52] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake: I do believe, from looking at the specs of your WebKit version, that it's segfaulting because of your lack of hardware accelleration... which brings us back to your first question
[23:52] <PythonSnake> Now the Segmentation Fault one.
[23:53] <PythonSnake> ?
[23:53] <PythonSnake> how to check ?
[23:54] <SIR_Taco> trying to figure that out
[23:57] <SIR_Taco> PythonSnake:  try "chromium-browser --disable-gpu-rendering" in a terminal?
[23:57] <PythonSnake> huh ?
[23:58] <PythonSnake> ~$ chromium-browser --disable-gpu-rendering
[23:58] <PythonSnake> Segmentation fault
[23:58] <SIR_Taco> just says segmentation Fault? nothing else?