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AdysBUGabundo: nvm, needed to upgrade kernel00:03
Adysits fine now00:03
BUGabundoahh00:04
BUGabundoI had to boot on old 2.x00:04
BUGabundocause 3.x won't boot if I have CIFS entries on FSTAB00:04
BUGabundohow nice, isn't it ?00:04
BUGabundoand don't even try to set a FSCK on boot00:04
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BUGabundonite01:32
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bazhang!info linux04:50
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0.2.3 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel powerpc)04:50
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Ian_Cornelol who was talking about missing icons on the right top?11:27
Ian_CorneI don't have any anymore :D11:27
RRRRubeI think that may have been me. 'Icons, we don't need no stinking icons!' :)11:51
BluesKajhowdy13:09
Ian_Cornewell, i still like a clock in the bar tho RRRRube :p13:12
RRRRubeIan_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared!13:15
Ian_Corne:)13:15
BluesKajyup,.sorta like forgetting your watch in the morning13:17
BluesKajolf course you guys who are glued to your portable devices whatever they may be, probly don't know what I mean :)13:19
Ian_CorneI haven't worn a watch in about 9 years now13:19
Ian_Corneno, 1113:19
Ian_Cornealways had a mobile since then13:19
Ian_Cornealso wtf, I'm already 24..13:20
RRRRubeI only wear a watch when I go to the pub, so I know when last orders are ;)13:20
BluesKajheh ..thought so13:20
BluesKajwell, my device is used mainly for calling wife to pick me up after jams , or for emergencies ...or when we travel, strictly pay as we go...certainly don't live my social life thru it :)13:25
RRRRubeI text and check twitter & email. I actually don't make all that many calls.13:27
embazhang: I don't think you should be an unfriendly person and push away volunteers in #ubuntu14:06
tsimpsonem: off-topic chatter is not on topic in #ubuntu, you know that14:07
tsimpsonit's also off-topic here14:07
emThere is no safe place for a user to talk about anything.14:07
tsimpsonthere is -ops, or -irc, or in private14:08
coz_offtopic?14:22
BluesKajthat's really kinda picky ..seen alot worse offtopic talk go by without comment here14:27
Ian_Cornedoes fglrx work yet with OO?16:25
ruhili have just upgraded from natty to oneiric but i could not find the tray. Is it not there in oneiric or have i messed up something?16:54
KM0201the tray?16:55
ruhilKM0201: yeah the tray , that contains network,bluetooth,user account icon and found at the panel.16:57
KM0201hmm16:57
Ian_Corneruhil: temporary broken17:06
Ian_Corneit'll be back17:06
ruhilIan_Corne: thanks for the information :)17:07
Ian_Corne14:15:18 < RRRRube> Ian_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared!17:10
brstquantHi, if anyone's around could he/she give  a general synopsis of how stable Oneiric dailies are these days?17:21
ruhilbrstquant: i have been using oneiric for the last 12 hours but i have not faced any major problem or crash though the tray is not tray , which might frustrate at first17:24
brstquantHmm, do the new GTK theme, global menubars, overlay scrollbars, &c. all work?17:25
charlie-tcahm, not quite alpha2 yet, expect a lot of breakage yet17:27
ruhilbrstquant: theme is good but the login screen is still not updated i guess as it gives me a feeling of fedora login :P17:27
brstquantYeah, I expect breakage (of course) --- just that I don't think I can even quite start testing if important things (bootability, wifi, somewhat-working gtk3 &c.) aren't there...17:28
brstquantanyway, thanks for the info!17:29
KM0201asking if an alpha is stable..lol, interesting17:35
stananyone else finding ecryptfs-utils isn't setting up filename encryption  properly?18:53
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dupondjeWhat file is used as Icon of synaptic in the gnome3 app overview ?19:17
dupondjecause the resolution of the image is very bad imo19:17
trismI went to check but got this fun error message instead: gnome-session[19877]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....19:23
dupondjeEvolution still broken :(19:29
dupondjedamn whats wrong with evolution ?19:38
dupondjeseems it refuses to upgrade :P19:38
trismseems to install alright here, what's the error?19:45
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dupondjetrism: seems some dependency shizlle :s19:53
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dupondjea bit of brute force fixed it :p19:57
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stanhow do you start indicators?21:00
trismstan: if this is a new install, you probably can't at the moment, indicator-applet needs to be rebuilt for libpanelapplet-4-0 since it depends on gnome-panel and gnome-panel breaks on libpanelapplet-3-021:09
stancan i rebuild something manually? indicator-applet package looks a bit empty21:12
stanhow do indicators actually work? does unity load the libraries from /usr/lib/indicators3/2 ?21:14
trismstan: doesn't look like it will be a simple rebuild, going to need to be updated for gnome 3 (I'm sure it is already in progress)21:26
stanis /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service still used? appears to be looking in /usr/lib/indicators/5 which no longer exists21:35
trismstan: ahh, I see, I was under the impression unity used indicator-applet to load the indicators. that path is still valid, it is for the gtk2 indicators, if you install the various -gtk2 indicator packages they will work in unity21:37
trismstan: most of the main indicator packages have been rebuilt for gtk3, which has a different path (pkg-config --variable=indicatordir indicator; or indicator3 for gtk3)21:38
trismstan: or at least indicator-sound-gtk2 works, which is all I've tested so far21:38
trismstan: indicator-session-gtk2 works too, which is probably the most important for logging out21:41
trismstan: good catch21:45
Q-FUNKam I the only one who suddenly has APT segfault all the time?21:51
trismQ-FUNK: where in the process is it segfaulting, can you pastebin an example?22:03
Q-FUNKwhen updating availables22:04
DaekdroomI wonder. Are the gtk2 indicators being kept because of XFCE?22:05
charlie-tcayes22:06
charlie-tcato the best of my knowledge, at least22:07
charlie-tcaxubuntu will stay with gtk2 for oneiric22:07
genii-aroundSo my current problem becomes... since i have xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop ... are there going to be incompatibilities22:09
micahgAFAIK xubuntu will stay with GTK2 through the LTS and beyond :)22:10
charlie-tcaprobably, genii-around22:10
genii-aroundDarn22:10
charlie-tcasince Ubuntu will be gtk3 as much as possible, and Xubuntu will be gtk2 as much as possible, I would expect at least a few issues22:10
charlie-tcaI don't know what will happen with kde, yet22:11
charlie-tcabut kde is not gtk based, is it?22:11
macocharlie-tca: no, qt22:11
macojust like Unity-2D22:12
charlie-tcaso that should be okay with both, right?22:12
macoyep22:12
macoi dont expect gtk2 an gtk3 apps to fight22:13
macothey should have different namespaces, i would think22:13
genii-aroundhm22:13
macootherwise gnome's got quite a rush to rewrite ALL their apps22:13
macoi can use Qt3 and Qt4 apps on the same desktop22:14
macoQt3's bloody ugly, but the apps do work22:14
* micahg thought qt3 was removed from Debian and Ubuntu22:15
yofel!info libqt3-mt22:16
ubottulibqt3-mt (source: qt-x11-free): Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8-b-8ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 3253 kB, installed size 8212 kB22:16
yofelshould be gone soon though (hopefully)22:16
yofelKDE3 leftovers need to be cleaned up first, though most of those ARE gone22:17
genii-aroundI still have this odd thing where it looks like Unity is running on my first virtual desktop of plasma-netbook in my kubuntu22:17
yofelheh, I had nautilus running below plasma-desktop for some reason so I uninstalled gnome again22:17
genii-around( doesn't happen with plasma-desktop, just netbook)22:18
BUGabundomeh22:46
BUGabundoback to Gnome Classic22:47
BUGabundouglier but works22:47
jpdss/Gnome/girlfriend/22:49
BUGabundojpds: send me yours, and ill dump gnome22:50
jpdsHaha.22:50
BUGabundo:)22:51
BUGabundobazinga22:51
BUGabundoOpenVPN or PPTP ?22:53
Q-FUNK/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update: line 42:  2067 Segmentation fault      $APTCACHE dumpavail > $CACHEDIR/available23:37
trismQ-FUNK: so: apt-cache dumpavail > Packages; segfaults too? might be interesting to see a backtrace: gdb apt-cache; run dumpavail > Packages, then when it crashes, bt (and then q when you're done)23:48
Q-FUNKyup, segfaults23:50
trismQ-FUNK: in any case, may want to file a but against apt23:50
trismQ-FUNK: but = bug23:50
Q-FUNKProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.23:51
Q-FUNK0x002ce003 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.623:51
Q-FUNKhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/80368823:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 803688 in apt (Ubuntu) "'apt-get update' segfaults" [Undecided,New]23:58
BUGabundoahah23:59
BUGabundoaptitude ftw ?23:59

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