=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [00:03] BUGabundo: nvm, needed to upgrade kernel [00:03] its fine now [00:04] ahh [00:04] I had to boot on old 2.x [00:04] cause 3.x won't boot if I have CIFS entries on FSTAB [00:04] how nice, isn't it ? [00:04] and don't even try to set a FSCK on boot === arif-ali_ is now known as arif-ali === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === dmb is now known as ]dmb[ [01:32] nite === pfifo is now known as bfifo === bfifo is now known as pfifo === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC [04:50] !info linux [04:50] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0.2.3 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel powerpc) === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC === enyc_ is now known as enyc [11:27] lol who was talking about missing icons on the right top? [11:27] I don't have any anymore :D [11:51] I think that may have been me. 'Icons, we don't need no stinking icons!' :) [13:09] howdy [13:12] well, i still like a clock in the bar tho RRRRube :p [13:15] Ian_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared! [13:15] :) [13:17] yup,.sorta like forgetting your watch in the morning [13:19] olf course you guys who are glued to your portable devices whatever they may be, probly don't know what I mean :) [13:19] I haven't worn a watch in about 9 years now [13:19] no, 11 [13:19] always had a mobile since then [13:20] also wtf, I'm already 24.. [13:20] I only wear a watch when I go to the pub, so I know when last orders are ;) [13:20] heh ..thought so [13:25] well, my device is used mainly for calling wife to pick me up after jams , or for emergencies ...or when we travel, strictly pay as we go...certainly don't live my social life thru it :) [13:27] I text and check twitter & email. I actually don't make all that many calls. [14:06] bazhang: I don't think you should be an unfriendly person and push away volunteers in #ubuntu [14:07] em: off-topic chatter is not on topic in #ubuntu, you know that [14:07] it's also off-topic here [14:07] There is no safe place for a user to talk about anything. [14:08] there is -ops, or -irc, or in private [14:22] offtopic? [14:27] that's really kinda picky ..seen alot worse offtopic talk go by without comment here [16:25] does fglrx work yet with OO? [16:54] i have just upgraded from natty to oneiric but i could not find the tray. Is it not there in oneiric or have i messed up something? [16:55] the tray? [16:57] KM0201: yeah the tray , that contains network,bluetooth,user account icon and found at the panel. [16:57] hmm [17:06] ruhil: temporary broken [17:06] it'll be back [17:07] Ian_Corne: thanks for the information :) [17:10] 14:15:18 < RRRRube> Ian_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared! [17:21] Hi, if anyone's around could he/she give a general synopsis of how stable Oneiric dailies are these days? [17:24] brstquant: i have been using oneiric for the last 12 hours but i have not faced any major problem or crash though the tray is not tray , which might frustrate at first [17:25] Hmm, do the new GTK theme, global menubars, overlay scrollbars, &c. all work? [17:27] hm, not quite alpha2 yet, expect a lot of breakage yet [17:27] brstquant: theme is good but the login screen is still not updated i guess as it gives me a feeling of fedora login :P [17:28] Yeah, I expect breakage (of course) --- just that I don't think I can even quite start testing if important things (bootability, wifi, somewhat-working gtk3 &c.) aren't there... [17:29] anyway, thanks for the info! [17:35] asking if an alpha is stable..lol, interesting [18:53] anyone else finding ecryptfs-utils isn't setting up filename encryption properly? === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar [19:17] What file is used as Icon of synaptic in the gnome3 app overview ? [19:17] cause the resolution of the image is very bad imo [19:23] I went to check but got this fun error message instead: gnome-session[19877]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry.... [19:29] Evolution still broken :( [19:38] damn whats wrong with evolution ? [19:38] seems it refuses to upgrade :P [19:45] seems to install alright here, what's the error? === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC [19:53] trism: seems some dependency shizlle :s === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar [19:57] a bit of brute force fixed it :p === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:00] how do you start indicators? [21:09] stan: if this is a new install, you probably can't at the moment, indicator-applet needs to be rebuilt for libpanelapplet-4-0 since it depends on gnome-panel and gnome-panel breaks on libpanelapplet-3-0 [21:12] can i rebuild something manually? indicator-applet package looks a bit empty [21:14] how do indicators actually work? does unity load the libraries from /usr/lib/indicators3/2 ? [21:26] stan: doesn't look like it will be a simple rebuild, going to need to be updated for gnome 3 (I'm sure it is already in progress) [21:35] is /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service still used? appears to be looking in /usr/lib/indicators/5 which no longer exists [21:37] stan: ahh, I see, I was under the impression unity used indicator-applet to load the indicators. that path is still valid, it is for the gtk2 indicators, if you install the various -gtk2 indicator packages they will work in unity [21:38] stan: most of the main indicator packages have been rebuilt for gtk3, which has a different path (pkg-config --variable=indicatordir indicator; or indicator3 for gtk3) [21:38] stan: or at least indicator-sound-gtk2 works, which is all I've tested so far [21:41] stan: indicator-session-gtk2 works too, which is probably the most important for logging out [21:45] stan: good catch [21:51] am I the only one who suddenly has APT segfault all the time? [22:03] Q-FUNK: where in the process is it segfaulting, can you pastebin an example? [22:04] when updating availables [22:05] I wonder. Are the gtk2 indicators being kept because of XFCE? [22:06] yes [22:07] to the best of my knowledge, at least [22:07] xubuntu will stay with gtk2 for oneiric [22:09] So my current problem becomes... since i have xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop ... are there going to be incompatibilities [22:10] AFAIK xubuntu will stay with GTK2 through the LTS and beyond :) [22:10] probably, genii-around [22:10] Darn [22:10] since Ubuntu will be gtk3 as much as possible, and Xubuntu will be gtk2 as much as possible, I would expect at least a few issues [22:11] I don't know what will happen with kde, yet [22:11] but kde is not gtk based, is it? [22:11] charlie-tca: no, qt [22:12] just like Unity-2D [22:12] so that should be okay with both, right? [22:12] yep [22:13] i dont expect gtk2 an gtk3 apps to fight [22:13] they should have different namespaces, i would think [22:13] hm [22:13] otherwise gnome's got quite a rush to rewrite ALL their apps [22:14] i can use Qt3 and Qt4 apps on the same desktop [22:14] Qt3's bloody ugly, but the apps do work [22:15] * micahg thought qt3 was removed from Debian and Ubuntu [22:16] !info libqt3-mt [22:16] libqt3-mt (source: qt-x11-free): Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8-b-8ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 3253 kB, installed size 8212 kB [22:16] should be gone soon though (hopefully) [22:17] KDE3 leftovers need to be cleaned up first, though most of those ARE gone [22:17] I still have this odd thing where it looks like Unity is running on my first virtual desktop of plasma-netbook in my kubuntu [22:17] heh, I had nautilus running below plasma-desktop for some reason so I uninstalled gnome again [22:18] ( doesn't happen with plasma-desktop, just netbook) [22:46] meh [22:47] back to Gnome Classic [22:47] uglier but works [22:49] s/Gnome/girlfriend/ [22:50] jpds: send me yours, and ill dump gnome [22:50] Haha. [22:51] :) [22:51] bazinga [22:53] OpenVPN or PPTP ? [23:37] /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update: line 42: 2067 Segmentation fault $APTCACHE dumpavail > $CACHEDIR/available [23:48] Q-FUNK: so: apt-cache dumpavail > Packages; segfaults too? might be interesting to see a backtrace: gdb apt-cache; run dumpavail > Packages, then when it crashes, bt (and then q when you're done) [23:50] yup, segfaults [23:50] Q-FUNK: in any case, may want to file a but against apt [23:50] Q-FUNK: but = bug [23:51] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [23:51] 0x002ce003 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 [23:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/803688 [23:58] Ubuntu bug 803688 in apt (Ubuntu) "'apt-get update' segfaults" [Undecided,New] [23:59] ahah [23:59] aptitude ftw ?