[00:04] <mhall119> AlanBell: nope, but I can ask karound
[00:04] <AlanBell> cool
[00:04] <AlanBell> I would like to do a per-country page so I can promote it better in the UK
[03:17] <mhall119> AlanBell: turns out my team runs that
[03:17] <mhall119> but it's old code, and not open sourced
[03:17] <mhall119> newz2000 is gonna setup an LP project for tracking bugs against it though
[03:18] <cjohnston> call is m$?
[03:18]  * newz2000 looks
[03:18] <cjohnston> its newz2000
[03:18] <cjohnston> !
[03:18]  * newz2000 lives
[03:19]  * newz2000 now leaves
[15:01]  * cjohnston needs a nap
[15:03] <daker> cjohnston, mhall119 we hall a call with jono today right ?
[15:03] <cjohnston> yes.. 2 hours
[15:04] <nigelb> phew, for the first time at a sensible time
[15:04] <daker> yep
[15:04] <daker> 17h for me and i don't have a mic :/
[15:05] <cjohnston> mhall119: are you going to see about getting django-openid-auth patched today?
[15:05] <cjohnston> s/patched/packaged
[15:21]  * nigelb kicks cjohnston 
[15:22] <nigelb> and my inbox is full again...
[15:30] <cjohnston> hehe
[15:30] <cjohnston> nigelb: is tarmac setup for all projects now?
[15:31] <nigelb> cjohnston: should me.  let me check.
[15:33] <nigelb> cjohnston: could you list out the projects so I can confirm I didn't miss any
[15:33] <nigelb> (the ones apart from summit and LD)
[15:33] <cjohnston> summit
[15:33] <cjohnston> ld
[15:33] <cjohnston> hof
[15:33] <cjohnston> community web themes
[15:33] <cjohnston> thats all i know of for now
[15:33] <nigelb> foundations?
[15:34] <nigelb> cjohnston: also, do you want to set it up for hof now?
[15:34] <cjohnston> check
[15:34] <cjohnston> that one too
[15:34] <cjohnston> sure
[15:34] <cjohnston> might as well
[15:34] <nigelb> because I think bilal is working on the truck directly
[15:34] <cjohnston> i dotn care
[15:34] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'll ping achuni, he had some other changes he wanted made to id
[15:34] <cjohnston> mhall119: sweet
[15:34] <nigelb> and there are multiple branches in community web themes
[15:35] <cjohnston> nigelb: yes.. all
[15:35] <nigelb> light base, light django, and the like
[15:35] <mhall119> nigelb: ask cdbs about using it for hof
[15:35] <nigelb> ah okay
[15:35] <nigelb> mhall119: will do
[15:35] <nigelb> mhall119: Twidenash?
[15:35] <cjohnston> mhall119: can you look in -isd and tell me if im in the correct place or not and who in specific to ping if i am
[15:36] <mhall119> nigelb: ask daker about twidenash
[15:36] <nigelb> daker: do you want me to setup tarmac for twidenash?
[15:38] <daker> nigelb, ask Ronnie hahaha :D
[15:38] <daker> nigelb, as you like
[15:38] <nigelb> and if Ronnie says ask mhall119, I shall have achived circular dependency :P
[15:39] <cjohnston> Pendulum: coming to fix more bugs?
[15:40] <nigelb> cjohnston: all of the lp: branches in https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-django-foundations?
[15:41] <cjohnston> i say yes...
[15:43]  * cjohnston points mhall119 back to https://dev.launchpad.net/Contributions   ;-P
[15:45] <Pendulum> cjohnston: I should, but today is a fight with health insurance to cover my surgeries now that they're scheduled day
[15:45] <cjohnston> :-/
[15:45] <cjohnston> sorry
[15:45] <Pendulum> meh. it's the story of my summer
[15:46] <cjohnston> 16 new emails
[15:46] <cjohnston> 4 of them i didnt do
[15:47] <nigelb> 16 new emails. ALL OF THEM FROM cjohnston
[15:47] <cjohnston> good
[15:52] <cjohnston> Looking for feedback.. bug 714030 - I say invalid.. I think it's a good idea to point out that the LC has access to edit things as a last resort. Plus its more work for *us* to remove it than to just leave it the way it is.
[15:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 714030 in loco-directory "unnecessary informations in error messages (affects: 1) (heat: 1)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714030
[15:53] <nigelb> cjohnston: Is it better to just say, "You don't have access to edit that resource"?
[15:54] <cjohnston> No.. I think it should define who does have access
[15:54] <cjohnston> that way you know who to contact if needed
[15:55] <nigelb> sure, that works
[15:55] <cjohnston> I personally vote to leave it the way it is as changing it would require work by us, and I think work by the translators since they would have to remove the part about the LC
[15:55] <cjohnston> maybe not invalid but wont fix
[15:55] <cjohnston> mhall119: thought
[16:02] <mhall119> cjohnston: I agree with you, it's good to let them know who can change it
[16:04] <cjohnston> t
[16:04] <cjohnston> ty
[16:09] <cjohnston> we should create a quick import-live-data that skips like country and lang and stuff like that
[16:22] <nigelb> haha
[16:22] <nigelb> http://www.opera.com/
[16:22] <nigelb> its at Rebecca Black dislikes now :p
[16:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: are you going to be around for the call today?
[16:26] <mhall119> cjohnston: if we can figure out how to make import-live-data only import the users that are used in a ForeignKey somewhere, that would speed it up
[16:27] <nigelb> cjohnston, mhall119, daker: Tarmac all set and running every 30 minutes.  if you want to debug, add a project, etc. Let me know :)
[16:27] <daker> ok
[16:27] <mhall119> awesome nigelb
[16:28] <nigelb> mhall119: For extra points, the last commit to tarmac is mine. The docs were wrong, I fixed it :D
[16:28] <mhall119> nice
[16:36] <cjohnston> mhall119: ya, it takes forever and sucks
[16:37] <cjohnston> unless i get a call ill be around, but im waiting to hear from jono on how to get me in.. not a good enough connection to skype
[16:37] <mhall119> I think he had an 800 number last time
[16:40] <cjohnston> ya, but i think he got away from that in favor of skype
[16:47] <nigelb> cjohnston: that's probably because he's in Dublin
[17:03] <mhall119> nigelb: Ronnie daker call?
[17:03] <nigelb> im on skype
[17:04] <daker> mhall119, i don't have a mic :/
[17:04] <daker> sorry
[17:05] <cjohnston> Ronnie: ping
[17:05] <cjohnston> hey jono
[17:05] <daker> yo jono sorry :/
[17:05] <jono> daker, no worries!
[17:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: I've got a present for you
[17:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/speed-up-teams-list/+merge/66342
[17:14] <mhall119> on local testing, it gives a 5x-10x decrease in load time
[17:14] <cjohnston> sweet mhall119.. thats a good start and we can see how it goes
[17:22] <mhall119> cjohnston: are you on a truck right now?
[17:23] <daker> LoL
[17:23] <mhall119> nigelb: you're not coming through
[17:24] <Ronnie> cjohnston: late pong
[17:25] <mhall119> Ronnie: can you join the call?
[17:25] <Ronnie> sure
[17:25] <mhall119> on skype
[17:26] <jono> Ronnie, ring ring
[17:26] <mhall119> Ronnie: pick up
[17:26] <nigelb> Ronnie: pick up :)
[17:28] <Ronnie> http://ubuntuone.com/p/10gg/
[17:28] <nigelb> wow, neat
[17:30] <nigelb> Ronnie: if you can get the layout up, we could get help to code the other bits
[17:30] <daker> have to go :/
[17:31] <Ronnie> bye daker
[17:31] <nigelb> ciao daker
[17:31] <mhall119> bye daker
[17:31] <nigelb> I should actually set up that web-team meeting :|
[17:31] <nigelb> Beeen busy with other stuff
[17:34] <daker> already finished ?
[17:35] <mhall119> daker: yup
[17:35] <nigelb> daker: are you free around this time on friday?
[17:36] <nigelb> Ronnie: ^^
[17:36] <nigelb> cjohnston: ^^
[17:36] <nigelb> and mhall119 ^^
[17:36] <Ronnie> nigelb: no :(
[17:36] <mhall119> nigelb: as far as I know
[17:38] <nigelb> Ronnie: what time are you free?
[17:39] <Ronnie> on friday its different each week, but usually around 3 hours from now
[17:39] <Ronnie> i can on tuesdays, wednesdays and thirsdays
[17:39] <Ronnie> around this time (not much sooner)
[17:39] <nigelb> 3 hours from now is fine by me
[17:39] <nigelb> I'll mail the list with that time
[17:40] <Ronnie> ok
[17:40] <Ronnie> nigelb: is there an agenda for that meeting?
[17:41] <nigelb> Ronnie: mostly status update, figuring out what all of us are doing, that needs help.
[17:41] <nigelb> Ronnie: but I'll set an agenda page up
[17:41] <mhall119> Ronnie: daker: https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=294
[17:42] <mhall119> not sure if you guys would be interested or not
[17:44] <Ronnie> mhall119: not anymore, got a new job since a month. I think im staying there for a while.
[17:44] <mhall119> Ronnie: cool, congrats on the new job too
[17:44] <Ronnie> thx
[17:47] <Ronnie> mhall119: is there any news about switching to django1.3?
[17:48] <mhall119> Ronnie: I think we'll be able to switch individual sites over to 1.3 by putting a local copy of it into the PYTHONPATH
[17:48] <mhall119> we're working that out with IS
[17:49] <Ronnie> it seems that the vritualenv isnt working correctly, because i got an error when starting ./manage.py runserver
[17:49] <Ronnie> django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: You must define a 'default' database
[17:50] <Ronnie> python -c "import django
[17:50] <Ronnie> print django.get_version()"
[17:50] <Ronnie> 1.1.1
[17:52] <nigelb> Ronnie: did you use --no-site-packages before creating the virtualenv?
[17:52] <Ronnie> nigelb: no
[17:52] <Ronnie> i pasted the commands listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/Development
[17:53] <nigelb> okay, so when you don't use --no-site-packages, it will use whatever is in your system too
[17:53] <nigelb> I recommend using the --no-site-packages
[17:53] <mhall119> I'd recommend it too
[17:54] <mhall119> there's actually a requirements.txt now
[17:55] <Ronnie> nigelb: where do i need to put the --no-site-packages
[17:55] <nigelb> Ronnie: virtualenv .env --no-site-packages
[17:56] <Ronnie> after the .env
[17:56] <nigelb> I don't think it matters
[17:56] <nigelb> it just has to be there
[17:57] <Ronnie> can i put the folder elsewhere so i can use it for multiple branches?
[17:57] <mhall119> Ronnie: I'd recommend using this setup: http://micknelson.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/sharing-your-development-environment-across-branches/
[17:57] <mhall119> then put your .env in the lightweight "work" directory
[18:07] <Ronnie> nigelb, mhall119L can you explain this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635184/
[18:08] <nigelb> Ronnie: what version of django did you isntall inside that?
[18:08] <nigelb> I see that the instructions said 1.1.1
[18:09] <Ronnie> my non env version is the django-svn, but inside the .env i installed 1.1.1
[18:19] <Ronnie> hmm if i change #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/env python in manage.py it works but gives an error on python-tz
[18:20] <nigelb> right, install pytz
[18:20] <nigelb> inside the virtual env
[18:20] <Ronnie> nigelb: how?
[18:21] <nigelb> Ronnie: pip install pytz
[18:23] <Ronnie> than pip install vobject
[18:24] <Ronnie> nigelb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635195/
[18:24] <Ronnie> why am i the only one with this problem?
[18:26] <nigelb> we probably all faced it at some point :)
[18:27] <nigelb> Ronnie: who wrote the requirements.txt?
[18:31] <Ronnie> nigelb: probable a very smart person
[18:32] <nigelb> its missing a few :/
[18:38] <Ronnie> its running
[18:46] <mhall119> vobject depends on dateutils, which you'll need a specific version of, IIRC
[18:55] <cjohnston> nigelb: no
[18:55] <nigelb> cjohnston: when are you free?
[18:56] <cjohnston> tomorrow
[18:56] <nigelb> :\
[19:18] <Ronnie> mhall119: how far is the code of the blog entry working
[19:18] <Ronnie> css is finished here
[19:22] <cjohnston> i thought he said the back end was done
[19:33] <mhall119> Ronnie: it's working
[19:34] <mhall119> Ronnie: there are some changes I want to make to stabilize and optimize it, but what's there works
[19:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: ill upload my code in a moment. i hardcoded the text in index.html for testing
[19:34] <mhall119> ok, I can merge it into my branch then, and just submit it to trunk all together
[19:36] <Ronnie> mhall119: you first need to put in the HTML classes
[19:37] <Ronnie> this is the branch lp:~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/blog-css (do not merge because index.html is changed)
[19:37] <Ronnie> just look for the css changes
[19:37] <Ronnie> .minor-content.blog css i need to rename to something more common
[19:37] <Ronnie> 2/3 width will be used more on the site i guess
[19:44] <Ronnie> mhall119: better version online now
[19:44] <Ronnie> i have to go
[19:51] <mhall119> Ronnie: ok, I'll work on it later, thanks
[22:32] <cjohnston> How can I add a ForeignKey to an event, and make it required, without having a default to provide it?
[22:51] <mhall119> yes, but you can't make a migration script in South 0.6 that way
[22:51] <mhall119> you can make null=True, blank=False to require it in the form, but not the DB
[22:59] <cjohnston> mhall119: so how do i add a required field to the team event
[23:00] <mhall119> the Model or the Form?\
[23:01] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/loco-directory/contact
[23:03] <mhall119> cjohnston: I think you'll need null=True on that field, or the migration will cause DB contraint violations