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tumbleweedanyone want to come and help us get some packages to build? :) http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/fix-ftbfs-jam.html15:25
* nlsthzn waves16:56
nlsthznnuvolari: You seem to be on a got mission (well going on your posts in disaporg)17:14
nlsthzn*git17:14
nuvolarinlsthzn: affirmative!17:25
nlsthznnuvolari: the vid of Linus was hilarious17:28
nuvolarinlsthzn: agreed, lol, I don't think a lot of people liked him after that.17:39
nuvolarialso in the comments they showed their dislike17:39
nuvolariok, hometime17:39
nuvolaritalk soon17:39
superflylinus goes to the extreme... he hates CVS so much, he had to make a VCS that was completely different18:03
superflyin fact, it's so different it doesn't resemble any other VCS out there18:04
superflyin my experience, git is over-engineered and over-complicated18:04
fretsMaaz, coffee on18:24
* Maaz puts the kettle on18:24
fretsMaaz, with sugar 18:24
MaazHelp yourself outa the sugar pot18:24
MaazCoffee's ready for frets!18:28
fretsThank you maaz18:28
nlsthznsuperfly: yes, Linus does seem to have issues :p18:29
nuvolariso? call me a linus fan18:33
nuvolari:P18:33
nuvolariugh, vodacom troubles :'(18:33
nuvolariIt does'nt make sence18:33
nuvolariI can connect when I place the SIM in a phone and connect via usb, but just try to use a 3g data card...18:34
inetproyikes, have not had a power failure in a long time18:36
inetprowe had a power failure at the office earlier this evening18:36
inetpronow my PC is off :-(18:36
inetprotried to wake it up remotely but forgot that the networking is only enabled at first login18:38
nuvolariR.I.P. inetpro's pc18:38
* nuvolari takes a moment of silence18:39
inetpronuvolari: thanks, I feel better already18:39
superflynuvolari: I usually like Linus' approach to Linux and open source, but his stance on git versus any other VCS is rather extreme (and unlike him)18:41
* inetpro wonders how to get a PC to auto connect to the network18:41
nlsthznWell, I found Linus to be very pragmatic... and hilarious18:41
nuvolariwell, let's face it, if you can git you can probably do anything else, therefore, learn git :P18:43
superflywhich is why I think he was burned pretty badly by CVS (since that's the only VCS he actually ever talks about)18:43
nuvolarieh? he bad-mouths svn too18:43
nuvolarijust because they started with the slogan "VCS done right" or something like that18:44
fretsSo the new kernel is 3.0?19:01
nlsthznfrets: still in RC but yes... 3.0 has arrived19:06
fretsMy kernel is so screwed anyway I lost track of the version..19:08
nlsthznfrets: uname -a19:16
nlsthzn:p19:17
tumbleweed3.0 is nothing special, just a bigger number. Like firefox 519:17
tumbleweedand it works fine, like firefox 5. I can't say I noticed either of them19:18
nlsthznI did find running 3.0 rather than .38 has reduced the temperature of my lappy (and thus also increased battery life)19:19
fretslol nlsthzn 19:19
tumbleweednewer kernels tend to do that19:24
nlsthznbut the rumours of a power regression in .38 kernels turned out true for me...19:33
Tonberrythere is a workaround19:47
Tonberryhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_aspm&num=219:49
nlsthznanother work around is to use another kernel :p19:53
Tonberrytrue19:56
inetprodoes Ubuntu desktop assign an IP before login?20:11
tumbleweedinetpro: depends20:17
tumbleweedif you need access to the users credentials (e.g. to join a wireless network), it can only happen after login20:18
tumbleweedif you are plugged into an ethernet network with dhcp, it'll happen on boot.20:18
inetprotumbleweed: are you sure about that?20:19
tumbleweedsure about what?20:19
tumbleweedyou can save wifi credentials in a system-wide store20:19
Tonberrywhen in doubt20:19
Tonberrywireshark20:19
inetprotumbleweed: that if you use DHCP it will assign before logn?20:20
tumbleweedyeah20:21
inetprook20:21
tumbleweedif you log in really fast, it may not have happened yet20:21
inetproKubuntu has an option "system connection" but it's greyed out on my system20:22
inetprothat is on network manager20:22
inetprohave not played around with these options enough20:23
tumbleweedif you don't configure it not to, network manager connects to wired ethernet20:24
inetprotumbleweed: thanks20:25
inetprowill play around a bit when I have time20:25
inetproalso want to make sure that my PC is set to wake on lan for next time when this happens20:26
nuvolario/ kbmonkey 20:29
nlsthznhaving used wicd to set up my net connection in slackware I would have internet up and running even before I had logged in :p20:32
kbmonkeyhey nuvolari, nlsthzn 20:46
nlsthznhey monkey-man20:47
kbmonkeyso you liking the git nuvolari ?20:52
nuvolarikbmonkey: indeed. Will take a while to master though20:58
kbmonkeyim a fan of mercurial, seems very similar to git. the commands match :)21:00
nuvolariI've never worked with hg before21:02
nuvolarijust read a tutorial on it once21:02
nuvolarikbmonkey: do you know if the DLUG meetings will always be in the middle of the week?21:03
kbmonkeythe best analogy I read, is Git is MacGyver and Mercurial is James Bond21:03
kbmonkeyand I'm a fan of both >_>21:03
nuvolariI'm not too fond of it being in the week/thursday21:03
nuvolaricool!21:03
nuvolariI just find it troublesome when having to work with an svn repo21:04
kbmonkeyI think git rocks for github21:04
kbmonkeyThursday is a bit troublesome, Im not sure if they will always be 21:05
nuvolariI can't reproduce some issues on a small sample project, but I've messed up my repo on work projects more than once :P I actually was able to resolve it for the first time today 21:05
kbmonkeyI'll drop a hint to DLUG to prefer weekends21:06
nuvolarikbmonkey: cool, thanks, i'll just drop a mail too, earlier to the date21:07
* kbmonkey needs a new calendar app to sync with gcal21:09
kbmonkeywell I'm too bushed to do any tinkering -.-21:17
nuvolariheh, know the feeling!21:18
kbmonkeymy legs are aching from all the excercise this week :) lol21:19
nuvolariok, bedtime21:47
nuvolarinight21:47
nuvolaricheers kbmonkey 21:47
nuvolarilo sdehaan, goodbye sdehaan 21:47
* nuvolari tips hat21:47
kbmonkeynite nuvolari. also cashing in for tonite.21:48

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