[15:25] <tumbleweed> anyone want to come and help us get some packages to build? :) http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/fix-ftbfs-jam.html
[16:56]  * nlsthzn waves
[17:14] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: You seem to be on a got mission (well going on your posts in disaporg)
[17:14] <nlsthzn> *git
[17:25] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: affirmative!
[17:28] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: the vid of Linus was hilarious
[17:39] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: agreed, lol, I don't think a lot of people liked him after that.
[17:39] <nuvolari> also in the comments they showed their dislike
[17:39] <nuvolari> ok, hometime
[17:39] <nuvolari> talk soon
[18:03] <superfly> linus goes to the extreme... he hates CVS so much, he had to make a VCS that was completely different
[18:04] <superfly> in fact, it's so different it doesn't resemble any other VCS out there
[18:04] <superfly> in my experience, git is over-engineered and over-complicated
[18:24] <frets> Maaz, coffee on
[18:24]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:24] <frets> Maaz, with sugar 
[18:24] <Maaz> Help yourself outa the sugar pot
[18:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for frets!
[18:28] <frets> Thank you maaz
[18:29] <nlsthzn> superfly: yes, Linus does seem to have issues :p
[18:33] <nuvolari> so? call me a linus fan
[18:33] <nuvolari> :P
[18:33] <nuvolari> ugh, vodacom troubles :'(
[18:33] <nuvolari> It does'nt make sence
[18:34] <nuvolari> I can connect when I place the SIM in a phone and connect via usb, but just try to use a 3g data card...
[18:36] <inetpro> yikes, have not had a power failure in a long time
[18:36] <inetpro> we had a power failure at the office earlier this evening
[18:36] <inetpro> now my PC is off :-(
[18:38] <inetpro> tried to wake it up remotely but forgot that the networking is only enabled at first login
[18:38] <nuvolari> R.I.P. inetpro's pc
[18:39]  * nuvolari takes a moment of silence
[18:39] <inetpro> nuvolari: thanks, I feel better already
[18:41] <superfly> nuvolari: I usually like Linus' approach to Linux and open source, but his stance on git versus any other VCS is rather extreme (and unlike him)
[18:41]  * inetpro wonders how to get a PC to auto connect to the network
[18:41] <nlsthzn> Well, I found Linus to be very pragmatic... and hilarious
[18:43] <nuvolari> well, let's face it, if you can git you can probably do anything else, therefore, learn git :P
[18:43] <superfly> which is why I think he was burned pretty badly by CVS (since that's the only VCS he actually ever talks about)
[18:43] <nuvolari> eh? he bad-mouths svn too
[18:44] <nuvolari> just because they started with the slogan "VCS done right" or something like that
[19:01] <frets> So the new kernel is 3.0?
[19:06] <nlsthzn> frets: still in RC but yes... 3.0 has arrived
[19:08] <frets> My kernel is so screwed anyway I lost track of the version..
[19:16] <nlsthzn> frets: uname -a
[19:17] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:17] <tumbleweed> 3.0 is nothing special, just a bigger number. Like firefox 5
[19:18] <tumbleweed> and it works fine, like firefox 5. I can't say I noticed either of them
[19:19] <nlsthzn> I did find running 3.0 rather than .38 has reduced the temperature of my lappy (and thus also increased battery life)
[19:19] <frets> lol nlsthzn 
[19:24] <tumbleweed> newer kernels tend to do that
[19:33] <nlsthzn> but the rumours of a power regression in .38 kernels turned out true for me...
[19:47] <Tonberry> there is a workaround
[19:49] <Tonberry> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_aspm&num=2
[19:53] <nlsthzn> another work around is to use another kernel :p
[19:56] <Tonberry> true
[20:11] <inetpro> does Ubuntu desktop assign an IP before login?
[20:17] <tumbleweed> inetpro: depends
[20:18] <tumbleweed> if you need access to the users credentials (e.g. to join a wireless network), it can only happen after login
[20:18] <tumbleweed> if you are plugged into an ethernet network with dhcp, it'll happen on boot.
[20:19] <inetpro> tumbleweed: are you sure about that?
[20:19] <tumbleweed> sure about what?
[20:19] <tumbleweed> you can save wifi credentials in a system-wide store
[20:19] <Tonberry> when in doubt
[20:19] <Tonberry> wireshark
[20:20] <inetpro> tumbleweed: that if you use DHCP it will assign before logn?
[20:21] <tumbleweed> yeah
[20:21] <inetpro> ok
[20:21] <tumbleweed> if you log in really fast, it may not have happened yet
[20:22] <inetpro> Kubuntu has an option "system connection" but it's greyed out on my system
[20:22] <inetpro> that is on network manager
[20:23] <inetpro> have not played around with these options enough
[20:24] <tumbleweed> if you don't configure it not to, network manager connects to wired ethernet
[20:25] <inetpro> tumbleweed: thanks
[20:25] <inetpro> will play around a bit when I have time
[20:26] <inetpro> also want to make sure that my PC is set to wake on lan for next time when this happens
[20:29] <nuvolari> o/ kbmonkey 
[20:32] <nlsthzn> having used wicd to set up my net connection in slackware I would have internet up and running even before I had logged in :p
[20:46] <kbmonkey> hey nuvolari, nlsthzn 
[20:47] <nlsthzn> hey monkey-man
[20:52] <kbmonkey> so you liking the git nuvolari ?
[20:58] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: indeed. Will take a while to master though
[21:00] <kbmonkey> im a fan of mercurial, seems very similar to git. the commands match :)
[21:02] <nuvolari> I've never worked with hg before
[21:02] <nuvolari> just read a tutorial on it once
[21:03] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: do you know if the DLUG meetings will always be in the middle of the week?
[21:03] <kbmonkey> the best analogy I read, is Git is MacGyver and Mercurial is James Bond
[21:03] <kbmonkey> and I'm a fan of both >_>
[21:03] <nuvolari> I'm not too fond of it being in the week/thursday
[21:03] <nuvolari> cool!
[21:04] <nuvolari> I just find it troublesome when having to work with an svn repo
[21:04] <kbmonkey> I think git rocks for github
[21:05] <kbmonkey> Thursday is a bit troublesome, Im not sure if they will always be 
[21:05] <nuvolari> I can't reproduce some issues on a small sample project, but I've messed up my repo on work projects more than once :P I actually was able to resolve it for the first time today 
[21:06] <kbmonkey> I'll drop a hint to DLUG to prefer weekends
[21:07] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: cool, thanks, i'll just drop a mail too, earlier to the date
[21:09]  * kbmonkey needs a new calendar app to sync with gcal
[21:17] <kbmonkey> well I'm too bushed to do any tinkering -.-
[21:18] <nuvolari> heh, know the feeling!
[21:19] <kbmonkey> my legs are aching from all the excercise this week :) lol
[21:47] <nuvolari> ok, bedtime
[21:47] <nuvolari> night
[21:47] <nuvolari> cheers kbmonkey 
[21:47] <nuvolari> lo sdehaan, goodbye sdehaan 
[21:47]  * nuvolari tips hat
[21:48] <kbmonkey> nite nuvolari. also cashing in for tonite.