[15:25] anyone want to come and help us get some packages to build? :) http://nigelb.me/ubuntu/2011/07/27/fix-ftbfs-jam.html [16:56] * nlsthzn waves [17:14] nuvolari: You seem to be on a got mission (well going on your posts in disaporg) [17:14] *git [17:25] nlsthzn: affirmative! [17:28] nuvolari: the vid of Linus was hilarious [17:39] nlsthzn: agreed, lol, I don't think a lot of people liked him after that. [17:39] also in the comments they showed their dislike [17:39] ok, hometime [17:39] talk soon [18:03] linus goes to the extreme... he hates CVS so much, he had to make a VCS that was completely different [18:04] in fact, it's so different it doesn't resemble any other VCS out there [18:04] in my experience, git is over-engineered and over-complicated [18:24] Maaz, coffee on [18:24] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:24] Maaz, with sugar [18:24] Help yourself outa the sugar pot [18:28] Coffee's ready for frets! [18:28] Thank you maaz [18:29] superfly: yes, Linus does seem to have issues :p [18:33] so? call me a linus fan [18:33] :P [18:33] ugh, vodacom troubles :'( [18:33] It does'nt make sence [18:34] I can connect when I place the SIM in a phone and connect via usb, but just try to use a 3g data card... [18:36] yikes, have not had a power failure in a long time [18:36] we had a power failure at the office earlier this evening [18:36] now my PC is off :-( [18:38] tried to wake it up remotely but forgot that the networking is only enabled at first login [18:38] R.I.P. inetpro's pc [18:39] * nuvolari takes a moment of silence [18:39] nuvolari: thanks, I feel better already [18:41] nuvolari: I usually like Linus' approach to Linux and open source, but his stance on git versus any other VCS is rather extreme (and unlike him) [18:41] * inetpro wonders how to get a PC to auto connect to the network [18:41] Well, I found Linus to be very pragmatic... and hilarious [18:43] well, let's face it, if you can git you can probably do anything else, therefore, learn git :P [18:43] which is why I think he was burned pretty badly by CVS (since that's the only VCS he actually ever talks about) [18:43] eh? he bad-mouths svn too [18:44] just because they started with the slogan "VCS done right" or something like that [19:01] So the new kernel is 3.0? [19:06] frets: still in RC but yes... 3.0 has arrived [19:08] My kernel is so screwed anyway I lost track of the version.. [19:16] frets: uname -a [19:17] :p [19:17] 3.0 is nothing special, just a bigger number. Like firefox 5 [19:18] and it works fine, like firefox 5. I can't say I noticed either of them [19:19] I did find running 3.0 rather than .38 has reduced the temperature of my lappy (and thus also increased battery life) [19:19] lol nlsthzn [19:24] newer kernels tend to do that [19:33] but the rumours of a power regression in .38 kernels turned out true for me... [19:47] there is a workaround [19:49] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_aspm&num=2 [19:53] another work around is to use another kernel :p [19:56] true [20:11] does Ubuntu desktop assign an IP before login? [20:17] inetpro: depends [20:18] if you need access to the users credentials (e.g. to join a wireless network), it can only happen after login [20:18] if you are plugged into an ethernet network with dhcp, it'll happen on boot. [20:19] tumbleweed: are you sure about that? [20:19] sure about what? [20:19] you can save wifi credentials in a system-wide store [20:19] when in doubt [20:19] wireshark [20:20] tumbleweed: that if you use DHCP it will assign before logn? [20:21] yeah [20:21] ok [20:21] if you log in really fast, it may not have happened yet [20:22] Kubuntu has an option "system connection" but it's greyed out on my system [20:22] that is on network manager [20:23] have not played around with these options enough [20:24] if you don't configure it not to, network manager connects to wired ethernet [20:25] tumbleweed: thanks [20:25] will play around a bit when I have time [20:26] also want to make sure that my PC is set to wake on lan for next time when this happens [20:29] o/ kbmonkey [20:32] having used wicd to set up my net connection in slackware I would have internet up and running even before I had logged in :p [20:46] hey nuvolari, nlsthzn [20:47] hey monkey-man [20:52] so you liking the git nuvolari ? [20:58] kbmonkey: indeed. Will take a while to master though [21:00] im a fan of mercurial, seems very similar to git. the commands match :) [21:02] I've never worked with hg before [21:02] just read a tutorial on it once [21:03] kbmonkey: do you know if the DLUG meetings will always be in the middle of the week? [21:03] the best analogy I read, is Git is MacGyver and Mercurial is James Bond [21:03] and I'm a fan of both >_> [21:03] I'm not too fond of it being in the week/thursday [21:03] cool! [21:04] I just find it troublesome when having to work with an svn repo [21:04] I think git rocks for github [21:05] Thursday is a bit troublesome, Im not sure if they will always be [21:05] I can't reproduce some issues on a small sample project, but I've messed up my repo on work projects more than once :P I actually was able to resolve it for the first time today [21:06] I'll drop a hint to DLUG to prefer weekends [21:07] kbmonkey: cool, thanks, i'll just drop a mail too, earlier to the date [21:09] * kbmonkey needs a new calendar app to sync with gcal [21:17] well I'm too bushed to do any tinkering -.- [21:18] heh, know the feeling! [21:19] my legs are aching from all the excercise this week :) lol [21:47] ok, bedtime [21:47] night [21:47] cheers kbmonkey [21:47] lo sdehaan, goodbye sdehaan [21:47] * nuvolari tips hat [21:48] nite nuvolari. also cashing in for tonite.