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| ScottL | astraljava, funny i asked about mudita this afternoon because during my trip home i got an email saying it was pushed into Debian :) | 00:34 |
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| ScottL | astraljava, it would be awesome if you wanted to fill out a sync request | 00:34 |
| astraljava | ScottL: Yep. :) yeah, I'll do that tomorrow. | 00:59 |
| scott-work | astraljava: ping | 13:38 |
| scott-work | hi bassburner , i'll be looking at the website shortly (hopefully tonight) and will have some comments on it | 14:35 |
| scott-work | bassburner: i should also note that any suggestions you have would be most desired as well :) | 14:42 |
| holstein | w00t | 14:45 |
| holstein | im stoked about the site change | 14:45 |
| holstein | i was just poking around on the current one to get an iso | 14:45 |
| scott-work | holstein: yes, the old one is quite..."old" | 15:03 |
| scott-work | lol | 15:03 |
| scott-work | holstein: this is the one bassburner has up currently: http://ubustu.exit66.com/ | 15:04 |
| scott-work | i can't view it at work and haven't had a chance the past couple of days at home either | 15:04 |
| holstein | D00D | 15:10 |
| holstein | that is *so* nice | 15:10 |
| holstein | put it up :) | 15:12 |
| holstein | ive been thinking since the meeting | 15:12 |
| holstein | as much as i would like to move hosting off canonical | 15:12 |
| holstein | i think we should stay there | 15:12 |
| scott-work | then we need to get other people to get access as well, or perhaps i should run the charlie-tca route and ask for the ability to give other's permission | 15:16 |
| astraljava | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/803645 | 22:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 803645 in Ubuntu "Sync request for mudita24" [Undecided,New] | 22:06 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i was going to ask if you might want to help me with some backporting? | 22:06 |
| astraljava | Okay, probably gonna be AFK for some while. Might make it to the meeting, but still unsure. Email if needed. | 22:06 |
| astraljava | scott-work: I most certainly will! | 22:06 |
| astraljava | Let's talk about that during the weekend if I'm able, early next week if not sooner. | 22:07 |
| astraljava | I am skipping town tomorrow morning, and will not have a machine unless Jussi provides me one on Friday. | 22:07 |
| astraljava | If not, I'll have access on Monday again. | 22:07 |
| astraljava | Whoa! USB harddrive has root:gdm as privileges?! | 22:10 |
| astraljava | Err... ownership. | 22:10 |
| scott-work | astraljava: no problem, it's been hanging for a month or more so it can certainly wait a little longer ;) | 22:11 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Cool, cool. | 22:12 |
| dtchen | scott-work: should we stop shipping envy24control, then, in 11.10? | 22:13 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Yeah, email me about the apps and stuff you'd like to be backported, and I'll see what I can do about them. I can set up chroots for any releases, but will not have full test envs until I move all my machines to the new place. | 22:13 |
| dtchen | astraljava: ^^ | 22:23 |
| astraljava | dtchen: I've been using mudita24 for a while now, but granted, not exhaustively, and since there appears to be some issue with S/PDIF getting stuck after usage, I have refrained from hooking digital in for some while. | 22:27 |
| astraljava | dtchen: What I'm trying to say, I'm not 100% positive it's a drop-in replacement. Can we still ship envy24control, you know, just to be on the safe side? | 22:28 |
| scott-work | dtchen: i would like to | 22:28 |
| dtchen | astraljava: what's the current situation with envy24control? I know for 11.04's it's pretty horrible. | 22:28 |
| dtchen | astraljava: i.e., I began backporting all the necessary patches to SRU alsa-tools in 11.04 but got stalled. | 22:29 |
| dtchen | astraljava: so I wonder in 11.10 currently whether envy24control is actually usable. My gut is "no". | 22:29 |
| astraljava | dtchen: I haven't noticed any other peculiarities, outside that S/PDIF getting stuck. | 22:29 |
| astraljava | And I have no idea so far where that problem lies in. | 22:30 |
| scott-work | astraljava: is that with mudita or envycontrol? | 22:30 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Both. | 22:30 |
| scott-work | ah | 22:30 |
| dtchen | astraljava: so envy24control works in 11.10? | 22:30 |
| astraljava | scott-work: That was the reason I tried mudita24 in the first place. | 22:30 |
| astraljava | scott-work: No change. | 22:30 |
| dtchen | astraljava: ok | 22:31 |
| scott-work | my expectation was that mudita24 would be a drop in replacement for envy24control | 22:31 |
| astraljava | scott-work: I would _think_ so too, but I'm not a heavy-user by far. | 22:31 |
| scott-work | the one thing that i particularly like about mudita24 is that the inputs have gradations on them | 22:31 |
| astraljava | by any means* | 22:31 |
| astraljava | scott-work: What's a gradation? | 22:32 |
| scott-work | sadly the only machine that i could use to test is my main machine which i will not install 11.10 on it | 22:32 |
| scott-work | astraljava: marking showing the level | 22:32 |
| dtchen | so my proposal is to continue shipping envy24control as part of alsa-tools-gui | 22:32 |
| scott-work | astraljava: this is a crappy picture but it makes my point: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.0/userguide-9.0/sound_envy_analog.png | 22:33 |
| scott-work | adjusting the levels is difficult because you don't know where these are set | 22:34 |
| scott-work | astraljava: conversely, this shows the levels: http://nielsmayer.com/envy24control/Mudita24-102-Analog-Volume.png | 22:34 |
| scott-work | i was getting a distorted sound on my vocals because i never realised that some levels were not +0 at the top but +18 | 22:35 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Okay, gotcha. | 22:35 |
| astraljava | dtchen: Yeah. I would have to agree with that. | 22:35 |
| scott-work | dtchen: are you advocating shipping envy24control along with mudita24? and is that because we haven't validated mudita24? or is there another reason? | 22:36 |
| dtchen | scott-work: my primary focus is reducing duplication. If mudita24 is a drop-in replacement, that's a no-brainer. | 22:37 |
| dtchen | scott-work: however, we haven't validated that the latter is a drop-in replacement, so it's better to be a bit conservative until we get more testers. | 22:38 |
| scott-work | sounds good to me | 22:40 |
| astraljava | Agreed. Now, must get my nightly 5 hours of sleep. Busy day tomorrow, err... today. See ya later, folks. :) | 22:49 |
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