[02:55] <maciej> new kubuntu install , application menu freezes a lot and windows freeze/unrepond 
[02:56] <ScottK> maciej: Which release?
[02:56] <maciej> taskbar doesnt' respond either, newest 11.04
[02:57] <maciej> i have intel hd 3000 graphics
[02:57] <ScottK> If I were to guess, I'd guess it's related to that.
[02:58] <ScottK> Most of the Ubuntu X people are probably asleep right now.
[02:59] <maciej> ok
[03:03] <ScottK> Actually I'm using a laptop with very similar graphics and it's fine.
[03:03] <ScottK> Not sure what to tell you.
[05:33] <shadeslayer> we might have a problem, granatier wants libopenal and libopenal is in universe
[05:33] <shadeslayer> drop granatier?
[06:35] <yofel> shadeslayer: probably the only choice we have currently. We can put it into universe once it's split
[06:38] <yofel> also, seeing as nixternal did nothing on bug 520919 I wonder If we could put cantor in universe.
[08:23] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer: ehm isn't kdegames split?
[08:23] <apachelogger> like grantier could just be in universe until openal is promoted
[08:23] <yofel> nope, kdegames isn't split
[08:24] <apachelogger> kk
[09:50] <CIA-52> [libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (15 files in 3 dirs) Add new split packaging
[09:54] <bambee> morning
[10:00] <stefan`> hi. this has probably been ask too many times already... ;) but anyway, how long until we get kde4.7 at our hands?
[10:07] <apachelogger> stefan`: when it is done :S
[10:33] <stefan`> apachelogger: hehe ;) - ok. wish you good luck!
[10:42] <apachelogger> stefan`: thanks, FWIW the packages for 11.10 seem half way done
[11:02] <apachelogger> jussi: ping, check your gmail inbox
[11:11] <jussi> apachelogger: thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
[11:47] <ryanakca> yofel, Riddell: Thanks, I'll prod sheytan for the svg art then and get to it.
[11:48] <Riddell> awesome
[11:48] <Riddell> do you have his e-mail ryanakca?
[11:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: No, but I can probably hunt it down on LP or on the ML
[11:52] <Riddell> ryanakca: madsheytan @gmail.com 
[11:52] <ryanakca> Riddell: Thanks
[14:44] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/libkdeedu-dev.install add libqtmmlwidget.a to libkdeedu-dev. Required by kalgebra
[15:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: do you think you know enough cmake to fix kde bug 273974 ?
[15:23] <tim> hi, i wonder, are there any plans to ship kdepim from 4.6.4 for 11.04?
[15:25] <yofel> 4.6.0: not anywhere else than ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental where it is now
[15:26] <tim> yofel: i see ... is it in experimental because there are some known issues or because it is not only a bug-fix release?
[15:28] <yofel> the only place it could go would be backports, but it's not stable enough for that, so experimental is what's left
[16:01] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/cantor] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (21 files in 4 dirs) Add new split packaging
[18:30] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (16 files in 3 dirs) Add new split packaging
[18:55] <xexaxo> hi guys and gals
[18:56] <xexaxo> over the last few days I started using kde with my ubuntu 10.10 and for some odd reason after some time oom-killer is called
[18:56] <xexaxo> system got 4gb ram and _no_ swap file, before/after oom-killer system has at least 1gb free memory (according to "free")
[18:57] <xexaxo> can you give me some hints and tips of how to narrow down my issue and find out what is wrong?
[18:58] <xexaxo> btw. tried kde 4.5.5 (default ubuntu 10.10) + 4.6.2 from kubuntu-backports ppa
[19:03] <Tm_T> xexaxo: try monitoring the ram usage with some tool, like htop
[19:03] <Tm_T> and order by RES use
[19:06] <xexaxo> how can I be sure that htop is not going to be killed as well ;)
[19:06] <xexaxo> just joking, I'll give it a try in a bit
[19:11] <Tm_T> ye, keep monitoring the ram usage before the kills happens (:
[19:12] <bambee> when kde 4.7 will be released, will we create transitional packages, right?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: looking
[19:58] <Xand3r> apachelogger: huhu
[19:58] <shadeslayer> yofel: can't do, i've never written a find_package script evar
[20:25] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Rohan Garg * 121 * debian/ (10 files) * New upstream release
[20:30] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Rohan Garg * 122 * debian/control Minor lintian fix
[20:44] <bambee> Could someone create a python-kde4 repository into kubuntu-packagers? Same thing for kde-workspace, then I will propose a merge for kdeutils.
[20:47] <shadeslayer> bambee: sure can do
[20:48] <shadeslayer> bambee: done
[20:49] <bambee> shadeslayer: thanks 
[21:36]  * yofel gets rid of kde-workspace again and renames kdebase-workspace
[21:38] <yofel> keeps the branch history intact
[21:40] <yofel> also, shouldn't that be pykde4 as branch name? That's the source name
[21:56] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 6 * debian/control More epoch fixes in Breaks/Replaces fields
[21:56] <xexaxo> Tm_T: thanks for the suggestion earlier (htop + sort by RES use)
[21:57] <xexaxo> it turned out that there was *no* oom situation just the settings of the oom-killer were too aggressive
[21:57] <Tm_T> uh
[21:58] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 5 * debian/control More epoch fixes in Breaks/Replaces
[21:58] <xexaxo> i.e. forced kick of one application was using more than 50% of the resources
[21:58] <xexaxo> (at least my best guess)
[21:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (15 files in 3 dirs) Add new split packaging
[22:02] <xexaxo> *odd* thing is that exactly the same usage(compiling browsing, youtube etc.) did not trigger anything under gnome
[22:03] <xexaxo> what I've changed, /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory = 2, overcommit_ratio = 100
[22:03] <xexaxo> just in case someone else pops in with same/similar issue
[22:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt/view/head:/debian/control#L262
[22:25] <shadeslayer> is ${shlibs:Depends} required? and no depends on libsmokeqt4 ?
[22:26] <yofel> nope, shlibs:Depends can be dropped
[22:27] <yofel> and it should probably suggest the binary packages
[22:28] <shadeslayer> why not depend?
[22:29] <yofel> why should I install all library packages if I want to debug a crash in one of them?
[22:29] <shadeslayer> ah ok, got it
[22:31] <shadeslayer> bah, no COPYING file in kbruch
[22:32] <yofel> the licensing is broken in ALL kdeedu sources, nobody seems to care
[22:32] <shadeslayer> indeed
[22:32]  * shadeslayer fixes
[22:32] <yofel> though, smokeqt/kde are the only packages that are practially proprietary in their current state
[22:33] <dtchen> yeah, auditing source and amending debian/copyright can be a pain
[22:33] <shadeslayer> dtchen: tell us about it
[22:33] <shadeslayer> i think we would have easily finished kde 4.7 RC1 in time, were it not for these copyrigts
[22:34] <shadeslayer> *copyrights
[22:34] <yofel> I've skipped it for the last packages, rather finish it so it gets into a PPA and fix the copyrights for rc2
[22:34] <yofel> or we'll be working on this till final
[22:36] <shadeslayer> heh
[22:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw in the homepage field in debian/control, are you putting http://www.kde.org like we did previously or the new project pages?
[22:38] <shadeslayer> i've put www.kde.org for everything i've done till now
[22:39] <yofel> I think I used the project pages, though I left edu.kde.org for the kdeedu stuff
[23:04] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Rohan Garg * 1 * (9 files in 3 dirs) Initial packaging for kbruch
[23:10] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Rohan Garg * 2 * debian/kbruch.install Oops, forgot the install file
[23:55] <LaserJock> ScottK: around?