[00:00] <Q-FUNK> BUGabundo: it's just a front end for apt
[00:02] <Q-FUNK> same result as apt.  gdb bt reports a broken libsdtc++6
[00:02] <BUGabundo> ahh
[00:02] <BUGabundo> good luck
[00:05] <Q-FUNK> I tried scp'ing libstdc++6 and reinstalling it, but no luck. it's got to be something else.
[00:07] <trism> Q-FUNK: probably not a problem with that library, but rather someplace in apt passing bad arguments to it (like an unexpected NULL pointer)
[00:07] <Q-FUNK> could be
[00:10] <Q-FUNK> heh.  ubuntu-bug also segfaults
[00:35] <pooltable> where can i get alpha 2 ?
[00:36] <charlie-tca> next week, maybe when it releases?
[00:36] <pooltable> ok
[00:37] <sudipta> smon grabbing 11.10 alpha2?
[00:38] <bazhang> !isitout
[00:38] <bazhang> whoops
[00:38] <bazhang> sudipta, its not out yet
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[00:40] <KM0201> does anyone know where to download the alpha of Lubuntu?
[00:43] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[00:44] <KM0201> charlie-tca: i'm in lubuntu, nobody is answering, that channel is pretty dead for the most part.
[00:44] <charlie-tca> Did you try their wiki?
[00:44] <KM0201> charlie-tca: also, to my knowledge, Lubuntu will be an official derivative w/ 11.10
[00:44] <charlie-tca> It was on it
[00:44] <charlie-tca> yes, it will be. and when the images are on the canonical servers, it will be easier, won't it?
[00:45] <KM0201> charlie-tca: i don't see any links to a ISO on the wiki, when i click the "testing here" link... there's no link to an ISO
[00:45] <charlie-tca> Sorry
[00:45] <KM0201> charlie-tca: you would hope so.
[00:47] <KM0201> unfortunately all the "Lubuntu" searches, just turn back Ubuntu
[00:47] <charlie-tca> Maybe you just have to wait for them to repond on IRC then
[00:48] <KM0201> yeah...
[00:48] <KM0201> i'm just bored
[00:48] <KM0201> want something to do.
[00:48] <KM0201> i put 11.10 ubuntu on a thumb drive yesterday
[00:48] <KM0201> none of the "side icons" worked, so it was pretty difficult to get much of a feel for it.
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[00:53] <pooltable> km0201 do you like it the look of 11.10?
[00:53] <KM0201> pooltable: i couldn't really use it... so i don't know.. honestly though, i'm kinda hooked on lxde.
[00:54] <pooltable> lxde?
[00:54] <pooltable> is there a image of lxde ?
[00:54] <KM0201> pooltable: thats what i've been here asking.. :)  looking for an image of lubuntu 11.10
[00:54] <KM0201> http://www.lubuntu.net
[00:55] <pooltable> km0201 ic
[00:55] <KM0201> it'll be an official derivative when 11.10 hits... 11.04 is a community release.
[00:55] <KM0201> but it's awesome.
[00:57] <KM0201> pooltable: http://imagebin.org/160662
[00:58] <KM0201> i love it's simple, clean look.
[00:59] <pooltable> km0201 is that your dest top?
[00:59] <KM0201> Lubuntu
[01:00] <KM0201> oh, yes
[01:00] <KM0201> thats my desktop (well, laptop actually.. :))
[01:00] <pooltable> what is the icon next to gimp?
[01:00] <KM0201> Parole Media Player
[01:00] <pooltable> the x one then the other one?
[01:01] <KM0201> from left to right....
[01:01] <pooltable> parole is it better then vlc?
[01:01] <KM0201> is a file browser, terminal, chrome, t-bird, pidgin, skype, xchat, gimp, parole, audacious, frostwire
[01:01] <pooltable> the one to the left with the x
[01:02] <KM0201> pooltable: i like them both.. but i think Parole is definitely "lighter" than VLC, while VLC is more versatile (if you use it for streams, etc.)
[01:02] <KM0201> i have VLC on my system, but i really like parole, and have pretty much been using it exclusively
[01:02] <pooltable> how it frostwire?
[01:02] <pooltable> is
[01:02] <KM0201> pooltable: i've never had a problem with it.. used it since like 6.06 i think.
[01:03] <KM0201> long as you have java installed, it'll work fine.
[01:04] <pooltable> fostwire better then lime wire?
[01:04] <KM0201> pooltable: basically the same thing really, except Limewire was ordered by courts to shut down.
[01:04] <pooltable> ok next side the green check mark what yellow x ?
[01:05] <trism> KM0201: found it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing via https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04193.html
[01:05] <KM0201> frostwire is essentually an open source version of limewire.
[01:05] <KM0201> trism: thank you.
[01:06] <KM0201> pooltable: the icons on the right, are active programs that i have open.. the "sun" is a weather applet, the purple thing is piddgin, the green check is skype, the x is xchat
[01:06] <pooltable> km0201 ok thanks
[01:06] <KM0201> pooltable: the black box w/ the "green" waves in it, is a CPU use monitor, beside that, is just an easy icon to click when i want to kill an app
[01:07] <pooltable> km0201 i got that
[01:07] <KM0201> it lists current programs, then i can just kill whatever.
[01:08] <KM0201> trism: thanks, downloading now.
[01:09] <pooltable> km0201 yes with the kill thing i have VBA= gmae boy adavance emu when i exit it i still have to kill the window the game in still playing in is there a way a round this?
[01:09] <sudipta> !lubuntu
[01:09] <KM0201> hmm, not sure.
[01:09] <sudipta> !lubuntu
[01:09] <sudipta> !ubuntu
[01:10] <KM0201> sudipta: ?
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[01:12] <KM0201> oh
[01:12] <KM0201> !msgthebot > sudipta :)
  :)
thnx
[01:13] <KM0201> np
[01:13] <KM0201> !msgthebot > KM0201
[01:15] <pooltable> !msgthebot
[01:16] <pooltable> ok
[01:16] <KM0201> lol
[01:19] <sudipta> !msgthebot >sudipta
[01:19] <KM0201> ok, gonna create a lubuntu 11.10 usb and boot it, be back in a minute.
[01:21] <pooltable> km0201 trying lub on vbox
[01:22] <pooltable> where did you fime 11.10
[01:22] <pooltable> fine
[01:36] <KM0201> ok, back
[01:37] <pooltable> did it work?
[01:37] <KM0201> yup
[01:37] <KM0201> on it now
[01:37] <pooltable> where did you fine 11.10?
[01:38] <KM0201> someone posted the link earlier.
[01:38] <pooltable> do you like it ?
[01:38] <KM0201> well, i just booted it..lol
[01:38] <KM0201> but i like 11.04, so i can't imagine 11.10 being any worse
[01:38] <pooltable> do you sill have the link?
[01:38] <KM0201> i do notice the networking icon doesn't work...
[01:38] <KM0201> it works if you click it (shows my wireless networks).. but it's just a red circle.. rather than the "networking applet"
[01:38] <pooltable> but 11.10 is still testing stage
[01:39] <KM0201> that's probably just a path issue to the icon.
[01:39] <KM0201> pooltable: yes, very early, i wouldn't install it, it's alpha 1, it's not due until november.. but if you just want to put it on USB and try it, it'll probably be ok.
[01:39] <pooltable> i try it on vbox
[01:39] <pooltable> once i fine it
[01:39] <KM0201> that should work to.
[01:40] <KM0201> like i said, unfortunately the link is on my Lubuntu install on my hard drive.
[01:40] <pooltable> installed 10.4 now
[01:41] <pooltable> well once you get back to it send it here shaggyeightball@gmail.com thanks
[01:41] <KM0201> well, i'll forget your email by then..lol
[01:41] <pooltable> ok
[01:41] <KM0201> hold on, lemme see if i can access my xchat logs on my hard drive.
[01:41] <pooltable> that sucks
[01:42] <KM0201> can you scroll up?.. someone posted the link for me... and i told them thanks.
[01:42] <KM0201> his name started w/ a T
[01:43] <pooltable> trsim?
[01:44] <pooltable> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[01:44] <KM0201> yup
[01:44] <KM0201> i was just looking through my log on my hard drive... that's the link
[01:45] <KM0201> i could have put it in vbox, but my laptop has crappy specs, barely runs one OS well, let alone 2.. :)
[01:47] <pooltable> i c my computer is also old
[01:47] <pooltable> it run but some time real sl o w
[01:47] <KM0201> yeah.. thats my issue.
[01:48] <KM0201> only thing i use Vbox for, is syncing my zune.. i start xp in vbox, sync, then shut it down,.
[01:48] <KM0201> for that 3-4min, i can deal w/ my host OS being kinda slow.
[01:48] <pooltable> try parole like it
[01:49] <KM0201> yah, parole is good.
[01:49] <KM0201> ok, gonna boot back to my install... i'll play w/ this later.
[01:49] <KM0201> brb.
[10:34] <snadge> this is likely covered somewhere obvious that i should look first
[10:35] <snadge> but i have a new amd bobcat system with integrated radeon graphics that im using as a htpc
[10:37] <snadge> and i have to install catalyst from amd manually.. and versions of libva1, libva-dev and xvba-video from splitted desktop systems, in order to have vaapi support (accelerated video decoding) with xbmc/mythtv/ffmpeg/mplayer/gstreamer etc.. all of those things also need to be recompiled manually
[10:39] <snadge> ive read briefly somewhere that oneiric will have improvements with regards to gpu video acceleration on non nvidia hardware.. which is relatively new ground in linux
[10:42] <snadge> now that vaapi is gpled and works as a common video accel api for amd, intel, nvidia, s3, powervr etc.. it would be nice to see that stuff included
[11:51] <alkisg> Hi, I have a kernel regression with a CDROM device (worked on lucid, doesn't work on maverick/natty)
[11:52] <alkisg> How can I try the oneiric kernel in Lucid?
[11:52] <alkisg> I tried the latest from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but module-init version isn't compatible
[11:53] <alkisg> Can I manually install module-init from oneiric to my lucid? Or that will break something else?
[11:54] <geser> alkisg: try asking the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel if you don't get an answer here
[11:54] <alkisg> Thank you geser
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:45] <saamm> hello a new icon will come in oneiric???
[15:45] <saamm> theme
[15:55] <lucidfox> Gah
[15:55] <lucidfox> After an upgrade, all my indicators have disappeared
[15:55] <lucidfox> from Unity
[16:01] <davidcalle> lucidfox, installing indicator-*-gtk2 packages will solve this.
[16:02] <davidcalle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1792797
[16:02] <davidcalle> For reference ^
[16:03] <genii-around> Interesting. Not all the time but maybe once every 8-10 times... I right-click in FF on a link, then the context menu appears to goes insane, blinking on and off and moving, then settles down on bottom right of screen eventually
[16:04] <davidcalle> lucidfox, OR wait a few hours until Unity 4.0.1-0ubuntu3 lands in Oneiric.
[16:39] <sudipta> is 11.10 alpha 2 out?
[16:40] <Ian_Corne> !release
[16:40] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[16:40] <Ian_Corne> !schedule
[16:40] <Ian_Corne> 7th sudipta
[16:40] <Ian_Corne> I'll be gone on vacation :(
[16:41] <Ian_Corne> today is debianimport freeze
June 30th, 2011 - Alpha 2 release...is what i know from web
[16:44] <Ian_Corne> well if you go the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule link
[16:44] <Ian_Corne> it says july 7th
[16:47] <sudipta> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Release-Schedule-189959.shtml
[16:48] <Ian_Corne> .. so you're gonna believe that site over an official ubuntu site?
ok...i get it..dont get mad at me :=D
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> ahnee, mss heeI'm not mad, just surprised :)
me too
[16:59] <lucidfox> davidcalle, thanks, installing the just-built version of unity helped
[17:00] <davidcalle> lucidfox, yw :)
[18:49] <lucidfox> BLARG!!!!!!!
[18:50] <lucidfox> Why does a system freeze erase Tomboy notes?
[18:50] <lucidfox> I rebooted and the note I've been writing is GONE
[18:51] <lucidfox> grrrr
[18:51] <lucidfox> isn't there timed autosave or something
[18:55]  * lucidfox sighs
[18:55] <lucidfox> I'll have to retype the whole thing from scratch, won't I
[18:56] <lucidfox> What point is there in using Tomboy over a text editor if it just eats your data like that
[19:09] <BluesKaj> lucidfox, is there areson not use gedit ?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> a reason
[19:10] <lucidfox> Yes. Autosave.
[19:10] <lucidfox> Which, as it turns out, is unreliable and can kill my data altogether. :S
[19:12] <BluesKaj> well , I use kate in kde and save after making changes and saving it saves another version of the text file if you're root
[19:13] <BluesKaj> I thought gedit would have a similar method
[19:15] <lucidfox> "I use $other_app" is not a valid defense against a bug
[19:28] <BluesKaj> lucidfox, then file a bug , this is an alpha release afterall
[19:29] <lucidfox> there's already a bug for that, and it's been there before oneiric -_-
[19:30] <BluesKaj> uhm , then why do you keep using it ?
[22:43] <taneli> oneiric server install failed with creative prodikeys keyboard at "select a language" prompt, known defect?
[22:48] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:50] <KM0201> o/
[23:47] <danie39> is there a way to change the desktop background of different desktops ?for eexample have desktop 1 be a sunrise desktop 2 be a midday picture and desktop 3 be sunset
[23:48] <KM0201> danie39: not sure about unity, but there was an app you could install w/ Gnome 2.x, that would do that.
[23:49] <KM0201> why that capability isn't enabled by default, like it is w/ KDE, i'll never know.
[23:49] <danie39> ok im still on 10.10 just figured u guys would know what is this ap called?
[23:49] <KM0201> oh ok.
[23:49] <KM0201> hang on a sec, lemme find it.
[23:50] <danie39> yeh i loved 11.04 but couldnt get internet to work on my vostro 1000 so gave up and just reverted
[23:51] <KM0201> couldn'tget the internet to work?.. wireless?
[23:51] <danie39> yeh
[23:51] <KM0201> hmm, most of the links say you have to hve compiz to do it.. i thought there was an app to do it w/o compiz
[23:51] <KM0201> whats your wireless device, do you know?
[23:52] <danie39> uh isnt there something i can type into the terminal to find out ?
[23:52] <KM0201> lspci
[23:52] <KM0201> (lowercase L)
[23:53] <KM0201> unfortunately all the stuff i'm turning up on the wallpaper issue, involve compiz.
[23:53] <KM0201> http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu
[23:55] <danie39> hmm do u think in like a week if i upgraded to 11.04 u would be able to get my wireless working ?
[23:56] <danie39> cause i might jsut say f it to this personlizing if i can get it working cause i realy do miss 11.04 my computer didnt flicker when wacthing online videos in fllscreen and i just liked the quick search with the windows key
[23:57] <KM0201> danie39: well, i don't know what device it is.
[23:57] <danie39> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636059/
[23:57] <danie39> now i wont be able to do it cause im on vacation right now and using my phone for coenction and updating it to 11.04 would take literally forever
[23:57] <KM0201> danie39: the 4311 shoudl be very easy to get working w/ 11.04 (not i said *should*)
[23:59] <danie39> im jsut realy dumb with this stuff and need a step by step someone showing me how to im just not good at grasping this terminal stuff
[23:59] <danie39> but def love this stuff way better then windows