| cjohnston | I know its late... there is #ubuntu - it isn't run by a loco team.. or a locale team per se... we have #ubuntu-us-fl for Florida chat.. Use a channel for support for a language.. and then a channel for the team | 00:17 |
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| cjohnston | just like english | 00:17 |
| paultag | mhall119: I'll get beat up for our LoCos, no problem | 02:01 |
| nhandler | Anyone need a Google+ invite? | 03:36 |
| paultag | all set here :) | 03:37 |
| nhandler | paultag: I know ;) | 03:37 |
| paultag | nhandler: ;) | 03:38 |
| paultag | nhandler: I'm trying to re-think a name, I'm still not sold :( | 03:40 |
| paultag | I want something snarky, but a subdued snarky that most people won't catch | 03:40 |
| paultag | pleia2: just because something's a standard does not mean it's going to be black-and-white, I'd be happy with a transition plan, and RE: URLs, I totally agree, and I've made that pretty clear in that last email :) | 04:24 |
| paultag | pleia2: I think that making the names standard is a good thing, and using the old branding until it comes time to re-do it would be OK, I think | 04:25 |
| paultag | I don't want to keep stomping on the ML, but I also don't want to be unclear :) | 04:26 |
| pleia2 | paultag: if it's not black and white you don't actually solve the discoverability problem you're claming to solve | 04:34 |
| paultag | pleia2: doing a radical change like this is not something I'm willing to take a strict stance on. | 04:35 |
| pleia2 | and we should NEVER change the URLs, my team went through a forced IRC channel name change and that was painful enough (and expensive in time and money, we needed to find every reference to #ubuntu-california and change, it and update all our color print resources - fortunately in that case forwards can be put in place, not so for launchpad) | 04:35 |
| paultag | pleia2: we should change the URL, but we need to work with Launchpad to set up some sort of redirect | 04:35 |
| pleia2 | even with a redirect it looks crazy unprofessional for all our resources to be giving the wrong ling | 04:36 |
| paultag | pleia2: so that's more long-term | 04:36 |
| pleia2 | link | 04:36 |
| pleia2 | please don't do this to us | 04:36 |
| paultag | pleia2: so you update it going forward, if it's outdated it's outdated | 04:36 |
| pleia2 | :( | 04:36 |
| paultag | pleia2: look, this was from the whole LC, I just signed it and kicked it out, I personally don't care that much | 04:36 |
| pleia2 | you're the one talking to me personally, I was discussing it on the mailing list | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | to everyone, not just you | 04:37 |
| paultag | pleia2: I know, but it looks like I'm killing the list posting to everyone | 04:37 |
| paultag | pleia2: I know, I know, I know | 04:37 |
| paultag | pleia2: this is totally not personal with me, I'm totally cool about this, we're just chatting | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | this is the kind of thing that makes teams want to have nothing to do with the LC (this has been a very bad day for me) | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | I support and defend the LC all the time, but even I am finding this a bit much | 04:38 |
| paultag | right, sure. | 04:39 |
| pleia2 | if you want to fix discoverability on the loco directory, work on the loco directory - maybe have a specific "display name" there, or use a map like is being discussed on the list | 04:39 |
| pleia2 | (and at UDS) | 04:39 |
| pleia2 | as I said in my first mail, I just don't think this will help and it's painful for teams | 04:39 |
| paultag | pleia2: would you mind putting that up as a suggestion? I don't think that has been brought up yet. | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | display name in LD? | 04:40 |
| paultag | pleia2: having the LD map it | 04:40 |
| paultag | pleia2: I don't care so long as everyone's happy | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell suggested it, I acked it (and Cheri703 talked about it at UDS) | 04:40 |
| paultag | this is to keep the LD folks happy, but it seems to piss off the LoCos, and LoCo members really don't mind ripping into whoever's suggesting something | 04:41 |
| paultag | which kinda sucks tbh | 04:41 |
| paultag | but it's fine, I don't do this to get pats on the back :) | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | the LD folks are creating a service for the locos | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | if the locos hate it, they won't use it | 04:41 |
| paultag | pleia2: I don't care either way, let's just get everyone on the same page | 04:41 |
| paultag | this is why I wanted it an RFC not a new policy | 04:43 |
| pleia2 | :) | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | paultag: ur in my google+ friend circle <3 | 04:48 |
| pleia2 | (I hate this thing already) | 04:48 |
| paultag | pleia2: yeah it's pretty hacked up, it's pretty hard to use | 04:48 |
| paultag | hopefully it'll change or morph into something less facebookey | 04:48 |
| pleia2 | google wave 2011 edition? | 04:48 |
| paultag | hehehe | 04:48 |
| AlanBell | nhandler: I am kind of interested in a google+ invite | 06:48 |
| pleia2 | multiple google accounts strike again, everyone is adding me as a friend on my unused @gmail.com account, argh :) | 06:50 |
| nigelb | heh | 06:51 |
| nigelb | pleia2: what's the right email to add you? | 06:51 |
| * AlanBell hugs paultag for being the messenger in front of the firing squad | 06:51 | |
| AlanBell | still think it is a daft idea mind | 06:51 |
| nigelb | heh | 06:52 |
| head_victim | Maybe RE the ML conversation there just needs to be another box called "Loco Directory Display Name" or something that can be used to generate the list? | 06:52 |
| AlanBell | there should not be a list | 06:53 |
| AlanBell | the only people that care that a list exist or have consistency of the list as a problem are the loco council | 06:53 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: lyz@princessleia.com is the one that has the invite, but I'm all kinds of confused now because my @gmail.com account apparently has google+ enabled too... | 06:54 |
| pleia2 | google is hard :) | 06:54 |
| nigelb | heh | 06:55 |
| nigelb | pleia2: oh no. | 06:55 |
| nigelb | I'm going down that path too | 06:56 |
| nigelb | I have nigelbabu@gmail.com and nigel@nigelb.me | 06:56 |
| nigelb | but I'm keeping my emails from my domain to professional stuff and gmail for open source | 06:56 |
| AlanBell | alanbelltolc@googlemail.com is my google account, but I don't use that address publicly for anything (stuff gets forwareded there from @ubuntu.com) | 06:56 |
| * pleia2 applies hugs to paultag for the same reason as AlanBell did | 06:57 | |
| AlanBell | hugs, whilst reloading | 06:57 |
| vish | nhandler: me me! (google+ invite..) :D | 08:04 |
| nigelb | vish: what's your gmail ID? :) | 08:07 |
| vish | nigelb: drvishnoo@ | 08:08 |
| vish | nigelb: just gmail.com not googlemail.. | 08:08 |
| nigelb | bah, invites diabled temprarily | 08:26 |
| huats | morning | 10:18 |
| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| dholbach | nigelb, how did the jam go yesterday? | 11:01 |
| nigelb | dholbach: not bad. we had one new person come up and help | 11:09 |
| dholbach | nigelb, do you have an idea how many packages were fixed? | 11:10 |
| nigelb | dholbach: getting the numbers, one sec | 11:21 |
| dholbach | sweet | 11:21 |
| nigelb | dholbach: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/bugjam/ | 11:22 |
| nigelb | 9 so far | 11:22 |
| nigelb | But we're going to work on this for a week | 11:22 |
| dholbach | nice | 11:24 |
| dholbach | I'll mention it in my report later on | 11:24 |
| nigelb | can you mention that tumbleweed and I will be working on it throughout the week? | 11:24 |
| dholbach | sure | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | alanbell that is absolutely not true and i resent thar remark !!! | 11:41 |
| greg-g | czajkowski: just fyi, I'm in the middle of replying to that email with the info, but I'm waiting on the address for the person who will receive it. | 13:47 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: oops, what did I say? | 14:05 |
| popey | 06:53:53 < AlanBell> the only people that care that a list exist or have consistency of the list as a problem are the loco council | 14:23 |
| popey | probably | 14:23 |
| cjohnston | I'll be more than happy to help and review code for anyone who wants to contribute to LoCo Directory. | 14:26 |
| popey | cjohnston: " I'll review your MPs." | 14:27 |
| popey | What is an MP? | 14:27 |
| cjohnston | merge proposal | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | show me the code! | 14:30 |
| daker | kim0, did you got an invite from me ? | 15:19 |
| paultag | thanks AlanBell, pleia2 :) | 15:34 |
| nigelb | jussi: did that work? | 15:35 |
| technoviking | jono: would you have time for a call sometime todat or early next week about forums upgrade | 16:22 |
| jono | technoviking, can we do next week, I am at a sprint right now | 16:25 |
| jono | maybe Tues? | 16:26 |
| technoviking | sure other 1pm-3pm next Tuesday I'm free | 16:26 |
| technoviking | jono: thanks | 16:28 |
| === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch | ||
| AlanBell | czajkowski: ah, maybe that was a bit harsh, sorry | 18:09 |
| AlanBell | paultag: I see summary of objections and solutions, but not the problem | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | "to help un-uglyfy the LoCo Directory team | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | list" | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | was the problem statement in the original mail. Is there more to it than that? | 18:11 |
| paultag | AlanBell: nope. We were told that it was unacceptable | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | ahh | 18:22 |
| * AlanBell detects higher powers being invoked | 18:22 | |
| paultag | AlanBell: I don't care at all | 18:23 |
| paultag | AlanBell: so I really don't care about any of this | 18:23 |
| paultag | so I'm going to invoke what I can to stop dealing with it :) | 18:23 |
| maco | didnt bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu used to show a pie chart of bug statuses instaed of just listing off 10 bugs? | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | I seem to recall pie charts | 18:24 |
| Pici | mm.. pie. | 18:24 |
| nigelb | I think that was before my time, cuz I don't remember it | 18:24 |
| Pici | But yes, there used to be a pie chart there. | 18:24 |
| paultag | I thought they were on the right sidebar or something | 18:24 |
| paultag | but I could be wrong | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 18:25 |
| maco | there are numbers in the sidebar | 18:25 |
| maco | but no charts | 18:25 |
| * AlanBell branches loco direcory and adopts a JFDI methodology | 18:25 | |
| * paultag hugs AlanBell | 18:25 | |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 18:25 |
| * nigelb hugs AlanBell | 18:25 | |
| AlanBell | I will do europe | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | I am getting a new keyboard soon, with a circle of friends on it :) | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | nice :) | 18:29 |
| * pleia2 applied tiny ubuntu sticker to mini9 keyboard, and it has worked remarkably well | 18:29 | |
| * nigelb has done the same | 18:29 | |
| nigelb | I gave around those at work | 18:29 |
| nigelb | the tiny ones from the stickers | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | it is a high end filco one, I went to see a company that makes keyboards and talked about openERP, they ended up giving the contract to someone else, but they are going to send me a keyboard :) | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | hah, nice | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | (well, for you anyway :)) | 18:31 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: ah, you mentioned that some time back in here I think | 18:31 |
| AlanBell | yeah, this is the outcome | 18:32 |
| AlanBell | http://shop.canonical.com/enquiries.php?ID=27736&g=55273922dc461976e0b8fb5b63af227b | 18:33 |
| AlanBell | and that is shop.canonical.com showing enthusiastic interest | 18:33 |
| AlanBell | hey, lets stock a mankini, that will do well . . . | 18:34 |
| AlanBell | hmm, keyboards, who uses them?? | 18:34 |
| === daker is now known as daker_ | ||
| AlanBell | anyone got the link to the UDS audio recordings? | 18:45 |
| AlanBell | found it http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/ | 18:50 |
| === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado | ||
| === salgado is now known as salgado-afk | ||
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