[00:17] I know its late... there is #ubuntu - it isn't run by a loco team.. or a locale team per se... we have #ubuntu-us-fl for Florida chat.. Use a channel for support for a language.. and then a channel for the team [00:17] just like english [02:01] mhall119: I'll get beat up for our LoCos, no problem [03:36] Anyone need a Google+ invite? [03:37] all set here :) [03:37] paultag: I know ;) [03:38] nhandler: ;) [03:40] nhandler: I'm trying to re-think a name, I'm still not sold :( [03:40] I want something snarky, but a subdued snarky that most people won't catch [04:24] pleia2: just because something's a standard does not mean it's going to be black-and-white, I'd be happy with a transition plan, and RE: URLs, I totally agree, and I've made that pretty clear in that last email :) [04:25] pleia2: I think that making the names standard is a good thing, and using the old branding until it comes time to re-do it would be OK, I think [04:26] I don't want to keep stomping on the ML, but I also don't want to be unclear :) [04:34] paultag: if it's not black and white you don't actually solve the discoverability problem you're claming to solve [04:35] pleia2: doing a radical change like this is not something I'm willing to take a strict stance on. [04:35] and we should NEVER change the URLs, my team went through a forced IRC channel name change and that was painful enough (and expensive in time and money, we needed to find every reference to #ubuntu-california and change, it and update all our color print resources - fortunately in that case forwards can be put in place, not so for launchpad) [04:35] pleia2: we should change the URL, but we need to work with Launchpad to set up some sort of redirect [04:36] even with a redirect it looks crazy unprofessional for all our resources to be giving the wrong ling [04:36] pleia2: so that's more long-term [04:36] link [04:36] please don't do this to us [04:36] pleia2: so you update it going forward, if it's outdated it's outdated [04:36] :( [04:36] pleia2: look, this was from the whole LC, I just signed it and kicked it out, I personally don't care that much [04:37] you're the one talking to me personally, I was discussing it on the mailing list [04:37] to everyone, not just you [04:37] pleia2: I know, but it looks like I'm killing the list posting to everyone [04:37] pleia2: I know, I know, I know [04:37] pleia2: this is totally not personal with me, I'm totally cool about this, we're just chatting [04:37] this is the kind of thing that makes teams want to have nothing to do with the LC (this has been a very bad day for me) [04:38] I support and defend the LC all the time, but even I am finding this a bit much [04:39] right, sure. [04:39] if you want to fix discoverability on the loco directory, work on the loco directory - maybe have a specific "display name" there, or use a map like is being discussed on the list [04:39] (and at UDS) [04:39] as I said in my first mail, I just don't think this will help and it's painful for teams [04:40] pleia2: would you mind putting that up as a suggestion? I don't think that has been brought up yet. [04:40] display name in LD? [04:40] pleia2: having the LD map it [04:40] pleia2: I don't care so long as everyone's happy [04:40] AlanBell suggested it, I acked it (and Cheri703 talked about it at UDS) [04:41] this is to keep the LD folks happy, but it seems to piss off the LoCos, and LoCo members really don't mind ripping into whoever's suggesting something [04:41] which kinda sucks tbh [04:41] but it's fine, I don't do this to get pats on the back :) [04:41] the LD folks are creating a service for the locos [04:41] if the locos hate it, they won't use it [04:41] pleia2: I don't care either way, let's just get everyone on the same page [04:43] this is why I wanted it an RFC not a new policy [04:44] :) [04:48] paultag: ur in my google+ friend circle <3 [04:48] (I hate this thing already) [04:48] pleia2: yeah it's pretty hacked up, it's pretty hard to use [04:48] hopefully it'll change or morph into something less facebookey [04:48] google wave 2011 edition? [04:48] hehehe [06:48] nhandler: I am kind of interested in a google+ invite [06:50] multiple google accounts strike again, everyone is adding me as a friend on my unused @gmail.com account, argh :) [06:51] heh [06:51] pleia2: what's the right email to add you? [06:51] * AlanBell hugs paultag for being the messenger in front of the firing squad [06:51] still think it is a daft idea mind [06:52] heh [06:52] Maybe RE the ML conversation there just needs to be another box called "Loco Directory Display Name" or something that can be used to generate the list? [06:53] there should not be a list [06:53] the only people that care that a list exist or have consistency of the list as a problem are the loco council [06:54] nigelb: lyz@princessleia.com is the one that has the invite, but I'm all kinds of confused now because my @gmail.com account apparently has google+ enabled too... [06:54] google is hard :) [06:55] heh [06:55] pleia2: oh no. [06:56] I'm going down that path too [06:56] I have nigelbabu@gmail.com and nigel@nigelb.me [06:56] but I'm keeping my emails from my domain to professional stuff and gmail for open source [06:56] alanbelltolc@googlemail.com is my google account, but I don't use that address publicly for anything (stuff gets forwareded there from @ubuntu.com) [06:57] * pleia2 applies hugs to paultag for the same reason as AlanBell did [06:57] hugs, whilst reloading [08:04] nhandler: me me! (google+ invite..) :D [08:07] vish: what's your gmail ID? :) [08:08] nigelb: drvishnoo@ [08:08] nigelb: just gmail.com not googlemail.. [08:26] bah, invites diabled temprarily [10:18] morning === daker_ is now known as daker [11:01] nigelb, how did the jam go yesterday? [11:09] dholbach: not bad. we had one new person come up and help [11:10] nigelb, do you have an idea how many packages were fixed? [11:21] dholbach: getting the numbers, one sec [11:21] sweet [11:22] dholbach: http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/ubuntu-qa/bugjam/ [11:22] 9 so far [11:22] But we're going to work on this for a week [11:24] nice [11:24] I'll mention it in my report later on [11:24] can you mention that tumbleweed and I will be working on it throughout the week? [11:30] sure [11:41] alanbell that is absolutely not true and i resent thar remark !!! [13:47] czajkowski: just fyi, I'm in the middle of replying to that email with the info, but I'm waiting on the address for the person who will receive it. [14:05] czajkowski: oops, what did I say? [14:23] 06:53:53 < AlanBell> the only people that care that a list exist or have consistency of the list as a problem are the loco council [14:23] probably [14:26] I'll be more than happy to help and review code for anyone who wants to contribute to LoCo Directory. [14:27] cjohnston: " I'll review your MPs." [14:27] What is an MP? [14:27] merge proposal [14:30] show me the code! [15:19] kim0, did you got an invite from me ? [15:34] thanks AlanBell, pleia2 :) [15:35] jussi: did that work? [16:22] jono: would you have time for a call sometime todat or early next week about forums upgrade [16:25] technoviking, can we do next week, I am at a sprint right now [16:26] maybe Tues? [16:26] sure other 1pm-3pm next Tuesday I'm free [16:28] jono: thanks === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [18:09] czajkowski: ah, maybe that was a bit harsh, sorry [18:11] paultag: I see summary of objections and solutions, but not the problem [18:11] "to help un-uglyfy the LoCo Directory team [18:11] list" [18:11] was the problem statement in the original mail. Is there more to it than that? [18:21] AlanBell: nope. We were told that it was unacceptable [18:22] ahh [18:22] * AlanBell detects higher powers being invoked [18:23] AlanBell: I don't care at all [18:23] AlanBell: so I really don't care about any of this [18:23] so I'm going to invoke what I can to stop dealing with it :) [18:23] didnt bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu used to show a pie chart of bug statuses instaed of just listing off 10 bugs? [18:24] I seem to recall pie charts [18:24] mm.. pie. [18:24] I think that was before my time, cuz I don't remember it [18:24] But yes, there used to be a pie chart there. [18:24] I thought they were on the right sidebar or something [18:24] but I could be wrong [18:25] yeah [18:25] there are numbers in the sidebar [18:25] but no charts [18:25] * AlanBell branches loco direcory and adopts a JFDI methodology [18:25] * paultag hugs AlanBell [18:25] \o/ [18:25] * nigelb hugs AlanBell [18:26] I will do europe [18:27] I am getting a new keyboard soon, with a circle of friends on it :) [18:29] nice :) [18:29] * pleia2 applied tiny ubuntu sticker to mini9 keyboard, and it has worked remarkably well [18:29] * nigelb has done the same [18:29] I gave around those at work [18:30] the tiny ones from the stickers [18:30] yeah [18:30] it is a high end filco one, I went to see a company that makes keyboards and talked about openERP, they ended up giving the contract to someone else, but they are going to send me a keyboard :) [18:30] hah, nice [18:31] (well, for you anyway :)) [18:31] AlanBell: ah, you mentioned that some time back in here I think [18:32] yeah, this is the outcome [18:33] http://shop.canonical.com/enquiries.php?ID=27736&g=55273922dc461976e0b8fb5b63af227b [18:33] and that is shop.canonical.com showing enthusiastic interest [18:34] hey, lets stock a mankini, that will do well . . . [18:34] hmm, keyboards, who uses them?? === daker is now known as daker_ [18:45] anyone got the link to the UDS audio recordings? [18:50] found it http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/ === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-afk