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| NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:59 |
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| MootBot | Meeting started at 09:59. The chair is NCommander. | 15:59 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:59 |
| ogra | plop | 15:59 |
| NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110630 | 15:59 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110630 | 15:59 |
| NCommander | Who's here? | 16:00 |
| janimo | me | 16:00 |
| * GrueMaster is not here. | 16:00 | |
| * davidm is looking around | 16:00 | |
| NCommander | [topic] AI Review | 16:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AI Review | 16:01 |
| NCommander | NCommander to get Documentation spec approved | 16:01 |
| NCommander | [topic] NCommander to get Documentation spec approved | 16:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to get Documentation spec approved | 16:01 |
| NCommander | c/o | 16:01 |
| NCommander | [topic] Standing Items | 16:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Standing Items | 16:01 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html | 16:01 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html | 16:01 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html | 16:01 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html | 16:01 |
| NCommander | Mr. Burndown Chart is :-( | 16:01 |
| NCommander | so looking at theburndown chart, it looks like a fair bit of the items are things that were done | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | I need to file a bug against iso.qa.ubuntu.com for the netboot image to get added. The filesystem peroformance tests take 84 hours each to run. | 16:03 |
| ogra | NCommander, the trend line still waits for your spec to be approved ;) | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | And they only run on one system. | 16:04 |
| janimo | GrueMaster, can't there be a much sorter but still representative test? | 16:04 |
| janimo | like 1 r? | 16:04 |
| NCommander | ogra: just fix it. At the rate we're going, that spec won't get approved until after A2 | 16:04 |
| ogra | whats so hard about just having steve to check the checkbox in LP ? should i ask him to do it ? | 16:04 |
| NCommander | ogra: if you want to | 16:05 |
| ogra | k | 16:05 |
| NCommander | [action] ogra to get NCommander's documentation spec approved | 16:05 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ogra to get NCommander's documentation spec approved | 16:05 |
| NCommander | anything else or can I move on | 16:06 |
| ogra | move | 16:06 |
| ogra | well | 16:06 |
| ogra | no | 16:06 |
| ogra | we probably need to look over the A2 items | 16:06 |
| NCommander | ogra: I ended up finishing several ofyour items so I'll mark those DONE now | 16:06 |
| ogra | since we are unlikely to achieve all of them we should look which we can postpone | 16:06 |
| ogra | to make kate happy | 16:06 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 16:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 16:07 |
| NCommander | We have ubuntu-server images! (thanks infinity) | 16:08 |
| ogra | and i heard roumors that netbook works | 16:08 |
| ogra | mahmoh1, ^^^ any input ? | 16:08 |
| ogra | err | 16:08 |
| ogra | netboot | 16:08 |
| persia | netbook? AI thought that was dropped. | 16:08 |
| GrueMaster | U-boot PXE testing is in progress. | 16:09 |
| mahmoh1 | mahmoh1: I wasn't able to get it to complete yet, waiting on NCommander but pxe boot works now | 16:09 |
| infinity | persia: s/netbook/netboot/, ogra can't type. | 16:09 |
| persia | ah | 16:09 |
| mahmoh1 | still needs cleanup though but usb pxe is recognized, downloads, etc. | 16:10 |
| NCommander | [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) | 16:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) | 16:11 |
| NCommander | anyone around or should I move on? | 16:12 |
| GrueMaster | Apparently no kernel issues - everything is perfect? | 16:12 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 16:12 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 16:12 |
| janimo | no progress this week | 16:13 |
| NCommander | netboot installer is pretty much done on omap4 sans partman-logic | 16:13 |
| janimo | still a few main ftbfs left | 16:13 |
| rsalveti | everything is perfect on the kernel side, no progress ;-) | 16:13 |
| NCommander | I think as far as porting goes, we're looking decent for A2 | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | awesome | 16:13 |
| infinity | I had a talk with doko about the upstart issue last night. No real progress there, though. | 16:13 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 16:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 16:14 |
| NCommander | So we have a netboot image */copy and paste from before* | 16:14 |
| ogra_ | desktop is broken atm ... (possibly headless too) | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | jasper is misbeahving | 16:15 |
| GrueMaster | Will test server image after meeting. | 16:15 |
| ogra_ | move ? | 16:16 |
| ppisati | hallo :) | 16:16 |
| NCommander | [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) | 16:16 |
| MootBot | New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) | 16:16 |
| NCommander | ppisati: cooloney we'll loop backto kernel status after this | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | Hey, thats me. | 16:16 |
| ppisati | sorry, i had the "goal review" right now :P | 16:16 |
| ogra_ | baaad timing :) | 16:17 |
| ppisati | right :) | 16:17 |
| GrueMaster | Work with Jenkins team to get that operational. Now ready to start adding tests. | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | we'll go back to kernel later :) | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | \o/ | 16:17 |
| ppisati | i think i'm going to be dragged out again soon | 16:17 |
| GrueMaster | mahmoh1 and I are workingtogether on the u-boot pxe stuff, and ramping up on server testing. | 16:17 |
| GrueMaster | Nothing else to see here, move along. | 16:18 |
| NCommander | [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) | 16:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) | 16:18 |
| ppisati | on zinc, on my oneiric tree, you can find an oneiric/ti-omap4-next branch | 16:19 |
| ppisati | but don't even try it, it kernel panics on boot | 16:19 |
| ppisati | vanilla (3.0-rc5 + TI BSP provided byu agreen/TI) | 16:20 |
| GrueMaster | That would be bad. | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | thats 3.0 ? | 16:20 |
| ppisati | sorry, they are calling me again | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | *snap* :P | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, thanks for the update !!!! | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | cooloney, anything to add ? | 16:20 |
| ppisati | can we talk about it tonight? | 16:20 |
| ogra_ | or tomorrow :) | 16:21 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: This is mainly for public facing progress. Thanks. | 16:21 |
| NCommander | [topic] ABO | 16:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ABO | 16:21 |
| NCommander | [topic] AOB | 16:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:21 |
| GrueMaster | BOA? | 16:22 |
| ogra_ | OAB ! | 16:22 |
| NCommander | I don't see what Bank of America hasto do withthis | 16:22 |
| GrueMaster | Dobee dobee doo | 16:23 |
| ogra_ | twiddle | 16:23 |
| NCommander | closing in 3 | 16:23 |
| NCommander | 2 | 16:23 |
| NCommander | 1 | 16:23 |
| NCommander | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:23. | 16:23 |
| pitti | cjwatson, kees: TB meeting in 5 - shall we meet IRL? | 16:57 |
| kees | pitti: sure thing, where at? | 16:57 |
| pitti | desktop room is too crowded -- we might try the meeting room at the reception? | 16:57 |
| cjwatson | couch meeting | 17:06 |
| Laney | please try to keep irc roughly informed :-) | 17:06 |
| kees | \o/ | 17:06 |
| pitti | #startmeeting | 17:07 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 11:07. The chair is pitti. | 17:07 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:07 |
| pitti | [topic] Set series RM to ubuntu-release? ( | 17:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Set series RM to ubuntu-release? ( | 17:07 |
| pitti | I don't see anything left which would prevent us from doing it | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | I'm happy to take the action to make that change and make sure stuff still works | 17:08 |
| cjwatson | so I think we should double-check the following things after making this change: | 17:09 |
| cjwatson | * non-core-dev kernel uploaders (let's say) can target tasks to oneiric | 17:09 |
| pitti | that part has been tested, I think | 17:09 |
| cjwatson | * non-release-team core-devs can target tasks to oneiric | 17:09 |
| cjwatson | * non-core-dev release team members can modify oneiric milestones | 17:10 |
| kees | yeah, the taks targetting has been tested | 17:10 |
| pitti | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/451390/comments/10 | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 451390 in Launchpad itself "limited upload rights no longer give series nomination accept/decline rights" [Critical,Fix released] | 17:10 |
| cjwatson | sorry, I actually mean stable releases, not oneiric | 17:10 |
| cjwatson | (oneiric already has the series RM set to ubuntu-release) | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | ok, let's jfdi | 17:11 |
| kees | +1 | 17:12 |
| pitti | [topic] Measuring installation success/failure | 17:12 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Measuring installation success/failure | 17:12 |
| pitti | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-June/000935.html | 17:12 |
| kees | right, I replied to that in agreement with pitti | 17:12 |
| pitti | we have +1s in email from kees and me | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | (one sec, just moving to a meeting room and adding sabdfl) | 17:14 |
| pitti | (catching up sabdfl to the recent discussion) | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | we're generally in favour with Evan's current proposal, and discussing how the data would be kept | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | Principles (summarising from RL): | 17:36 |
| cjwatson | * the purpose of collecting the data is to make Ubuntu better | 17:36 |
| cjwatson | * while we won't make the data entirely public (avoiding unexpected privacy concerns, and competitive questions), people with technical/research projects who have a need for it can ask the TB for data | 17:37 |
| pitti | * for opt-out we need to write a privacy policy | 17:38 |
| cjwatson | people who are concerned about what data we're collecting can of course examine the client source code; we won't correlate IP addresses with this | 17:41 |
| cjwatson | * we need to discuss data security (against theft) with IS | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | * Canonical employees will need to apply to the TB like anyone else, if they want data access | 17:53 |
| pitti | [vote] Create a install report system as proposed by Evan under above conditions | 17:57 |
| MootBot | Please vote on: Create a install report system as proposed by Evan under above conditions. | 17:57 |
| MootBot | Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot | 17:57 |
| MootBot | E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting | 17:57 |
| cjwatson | +1 | 17:57 |
| MootBot | +1 received from cjwatson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 | 17:57 |
| kees | +1 | 17:57 |
| MootBot | +1 received from kees. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 | 17:57 |
| pitti | +1 | 17:57 |
| MootBot | +1 received from pitti. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 | 17:57 |
| sabdfl | +1 | 17:57 |
| MootBot | +1 received from sabdfl. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 | 17:57 |
| pitti | [endvote] | 17:57 |
| MootBot | Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 | 17:57 |
| sabdfl | we should note concerns raised by scott, with his preference for complete publication of all data | 17:58 |
| pitti | FTR: MRE for banshee didn't raise any discussion so far, but should be formally +1'ed on the ML | 18:01 |
| pitti | Policy proposal for partner repository just was updated today -> by mail or next meeting | 18:01 |
| pitti | some discussion about DMB voting procedure (just came in a day ago) | 18:04 |
| kees | pitti: +1 on the MRE | 18:14 |
| sabdfl | thanks all | 18:15 |
| sabdfl | i'm now +1 on the MRE ;-) | 18:15 |
| sabdfl | sorry, +2 | 18:15 |
| pitti | #endmeeting | 18:35 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:35. | 18:35 |
| Laney | voting outcome? | 18:36 |
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| maco | Laney: looks like they didnt discuss or vote on how we should tally votes :-/ | 22:27 |
| Laney | maco: no idea what 'some discussion' is... | 22:28 |
| Laney | pitti: any clue? :-) | 22:28 |
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