=== ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara === Adri2000 is now known as Guest89352 === Guest89352 is now known as Adri2000 === fenris is now known as Guest83722 === Mkaysi is now known as L|noria === L|noria is now known as Mkaysi === chrisccoulson is now known as chrisccoulson_ === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Mkaysi is now known as Isyakm === Isyakm is now known as Mkaysi [15:59] #startmeeting [15:59] Meeting started at 09:59. The chair is NCommander. [15:59] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:59] plop [15:59] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110630 [15:59] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110630 [16:00] Who's here? [16:00] me [16:00] * GrueMaster is not here. [16:00] * davidm is looking around [16:01] [topic] AI Review [16:01] New Topic: AI Review [16:01] NCommander to get Documentation spec approved [16:01] [topic] NCommander to get Documentation spec approved [16:01] New Topic: NCommander to get Documentation spec approved [16:01] c/o [16:01] [topic] Standing Items [16:01] New Topic: Standing Items [16:01] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:01] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html [16:01] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [16:01] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-alpha-2.html [16:01] Mr. Burndown Chart is :-( [16:03] so looking at theburndown chart, it looks like a fair bit of the items are things that were done [16:03] I need to file a bug against iso.qa.ubuntu.com for the netboot image to get added. The filesystem peroformance tests take 84 hours each to run. [16:03] NCommander, the trend line still waits for your spec to be approved ;) [16:04] And they only run on one system. [16:04] GrueMaster, can't there be a much sorter but still representative test? [16:04] like 1 r? [16:04] ogra: just fix it. At the rate we're going, that spec won't get approved until after A2 [16:04] whats so hard about just having steve to check the checkbox in LP ? should i ask him to do it ? [16:05] ogra: if you want to [16:05] k [16:05] [action] ogra to get NCommander's documentation spec approved [16:05] ACTION received: ogra to get NCommander's documentation spec approved [16:06] anything else or can I move on [16:06] move [16:06] well [16:06] no [16:06] we probably need to look over the A2 items [16:06] ogra: I ended up finishing several ofyour items so I'll mark those DONE now [16:06] since we are unlikely to achieve all of them we should look which we can postpone [16:06] to make kate happy [16:07] [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) [16:07] New Topic: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) [16:08] We have ubuntu-server images! (thanks infinity) [16:08] and i heard roumors that netbook works [16:08] mahmoh1, ^^^ any input ? [16:08] err [16:08] netboot [16:08] netbook? AI thought that was dropped. [16:09] U-boot PXE testing is in progress. [16:09] mahmoh1: I wasn't able to get it to complete yet, waiting on NCommander but pxe boot works now [16:09] persia: s/netbook/netboot/, ogra can't type. [16:09] ah [16:10] still needs cleanup though but usb pxe is recognized, downloads, etc. [16:11] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) [16:11] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) [16:12] anyone around or should I move on? [16:12] Apparently no kernel issues - everything is perfect? [16:12] [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:12] New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:13] no progress this week [16:13] netboot installer is pretty much done on omap4 sans partman-logic [16:13] still a few main ftbfs left [16:13] everything is perfect on the kernel side, no progress ;-) [16:13] I think as far as porting goes, we're looking decent for A2 [16:13] awesome [16:13] I had a talk with doko about the upstart issue last night. No real progress there, though. [16:14] [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:14] New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:14] So we have a netboot image */copy and paste from before* [16:15] desktop is broken atm ... (possibly headless too) [16:15] jasper is misbeahving [16:15] Will test server image after meeting. [16:16] move ? [16:16] hallo :) [16:16] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:16] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:16] ppisati: cooloney we'll loop backto kernel status after this [16:16] Hey, thats me. [16:16] sorry, i had the "goal review" right now :P [16:17] baaad timing :) [16:17] right :) [16:17] Work with Jenkins team to get that operational. Now ready to start adding tests. [16:17] we'll go back to kernel later :) [16:17] \o/ [16:17] i think i'm going to be dragged out again soon [16:17] mahmoh1 and I are workingtogether on the u-boot pxe stuff, and ramping up on server testing. [16:18] Nothing else to see here, move along. [16:18] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) [16:18] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti, ppisati) [16:19] on zinc, on my oneiric tree, you can find an oneiric/ti-omap4-next branch [16:19] but don't even try it, it kernel panics on boot [16:20] vanilla (3.0-rc5 + TI BSP provided byu agreen/TI) [16:20] That would be bad. [16:20] thats 3.0 ? [16:20] sorry, they are calling me again [16:20] *snap* :P [16:20] ppisati, thanks for the update !!!! [16:20] cooloney, anything to add ? [16:20] can we talk about it tonight? [16:21] or tomorrow :) [16:21] ppisati: This is mainly for public facing progress. Thanks. [16:21] [topic] ABO [16:21] New Topic: ABO [16:21] [topic] AOB [16:21] New Topic: AOB [16:22] BOA? [16:22] OAB ! [16:22] I don't see what Bank of America hasto do withthis [16:23] Dobee dobee doo [16:23] twiddle [16:23] closing in 3 [16:23] 2 [16:23] 1 [16:23] #endmeeting [16:23] Meeting finished at 10:23. [16:57] cjwatson, kees: TB meeting in 5 - shall we meet IRL? [16:57] pitti: sure thing, where at? [16:57] desktop room is too crowded -- we might try the meeting room at the reception? [17:06] couch meeting [17:06] please try to keep irc roughly informed :-) [17:06] \o/ [17:07] #startmeeting [17:07] Meeting started at 11:07. The chair is pitti. [17:07] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:07] [topic] Set series RM to ubuntu-release? ( [17:07] New Topic: Set series RM to ubuntu-release? ( [17:08] I don't see anything left which would prevent us from doing it [17:08] I'm happy to take the action to make that change and make sure stuff still works [17:09] so I think we should double-check the following things after making this change: [17:09] * non-core-dev kernel uploaders (let's say) can target tasks to oneiric [17:09] that part has been tested, I think [17:09] * non-release-team core-devs can target tasks to oneiric [17:10] * non-core-dev release team members can modify oneiric milestones [17:10] yeah, the taks targetting has been tested [17:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/451390/comments/10 [17:10] Ubuntu bug 451390 in Launchpad itself "limited upload rights no longer give series nomination accept/decline rights" [Critical,Fix released] [17:10] sorry, I actually mean stable releases, not oneiric [17:11] (oneiric already has the series RM set to ubuntu-release) [17:11] ok, let's jfdi [17:12] +1 [17:12] [topic] Measuring installation success/failure [17:12] New Topic: Measuring installation success/failure [17:12] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-June/000935.html [17:12] right, I replied to that in agreement with pitti [17:12] we have +1s in email from kees and me [17:14] (one sec, just moving to a meeting room and adding sabdfl) [17:15] (catching up sabdfl to the recent discussion) [17:24] we're generally in favour with Evan's current proposal, and discussing how the data would be kept [17:36] Principles (summarising from RL): [17:36] * the purpose of collecting the data is to make Ubuntu better [17:37] * while we won't make the data entirely public (avoiding unexpected privacy concerns, and competitive questions), people with technical/research projects who have a need for it can ask the TB for data [17:38] * for opt-out we need to write a privacy policy [17:41] people who are concerned about what data we're collecting can of course examine the client source code; we won't correlate IP addresses with this [17:48] * we need to discuss data security (against theft) with IS [17:53] * Canonical employees will need to apply to the TB like anyone else, if they want data access [17:57] [vote] Create a install report system as proposed by Evan under above conditions [17:57] Please vote on: Create a install report system as proposed by Evan under above conditions. [17:57] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [17:57] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [17:57] +1 [17:57] +1 received from cjwatson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [17:57] +1 [17:57] +1 received from kees. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [17:57] +1 [17:57] +1 received from pitti. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [17:57] +1 [17:57] +1 received from sabdfl. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [17:57] [endvote] [17:57] Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 [17:58] we should note concerns raised by scott, with his preference for complete publication of all data [18:01] FTR: MRE for banshee didn't raise any discussion so far, but should be formally +1'ed on the ML [18:01] Policy proposal for partner repository just was updated today -> by mail or next meeting [18:04] some discussion about DMB voting procedure (just came in a day ago) [18:14] pitti: +1 on the MRE [18:15] thanks all [18:15] i'm now +1 on the MRE ;-) [18:15] sorry, +2 [18:35] #endmeeting [18:35] Meeting finished at 12:35. [18:36] voting outcome? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:37] g/win 12 === LjL is now known as TheFakeLjL === TheFakeLjL is now known as LjL [22:27] Laney: looks like they didnt discuss or vote on how we should tally votes :-/ [22:28] maco: no idea what 'some discussion' is... [22:28] pitti: any clue? :-)