[00:06] * [rhino] (~Indiana@dsl-69-172-80-203.acanac.net): Douglas John spambot in -ot [00:07] was pybot123 in #ubuntu (already taken care of) [00:09] thanks [01:06] like doing dental work [01:07] bazhang: I'm pretty sure they are looking at how to create an ICC colour profile [01:08] genii-around, sounds like it. [01:17] bazhang: Sing it against leader! [01:17] that was odd [01:18] Maybe they figure some auto system where it boots them after so many youtube URL are posted or so [01:50] Meh. My wifi disconnects when computer sleeps [01:51] genii-around: Time to run irssi somewhere stable? [01:52] Corey: I'm on quassel, but yeah maybe I'll start running a core on a spare box somewhere [01:52] genii-around: Worst case I can probably spin something up for you. [01:53] You can hang out there with me, nhandler, and howlbot. [01:53] bah, howlbot [01:53] I started hosting that yesterday. [01:54] load average: 15.65, 15.86, 16.03 <-- Interesting [01:55] Pretty high loads [01:56] When I had one of the #k floodbots running on a P3 the loads never went over about 2 [02:05] genii-around: All the cool kids run their IRC client on a Linode. [02:36] szal called the ops in #ubuntu () [03:18] Jordan_U: 2 lines paste follow -> [03:18] [04:10:45] cpu? [03:18] [04:10:46] cpu is rarely the limiting factor in the overall performance of a system [03:18] * nhandler doesn't have a linode [03:18] iow, immediate trigger on an expression, plus doesn't respond to CTCP version request [03:19] doesn't have to mean anything, but looks suspicious to me [03:19] szal: Thanks :) [03:19] k, I'm out again :) [06:25] i have been kidnapped [07:25] Is there a policy on when to use '|' with ubottu factoids and when to use '>'? I almost always prefer sending messages to people in the channel, especially with all of the new users who may not even notice that a new tab has been created in thier client with a pm. The only time I use '>' is with !away. [07:25] Jordan_U: No policy; use whichever one makes sense in the situation. [07:27] Flannel: I know what I'm going to do. I meant more if I should be recommending that others also use '|'. See the example of kla and paul9548712 in #ubuntu. [10:34] hello COOLDOOD [10:34] yes hi [10:34] you've just been caught trying to get around a ban - so I've kicked you from the channel [10:34] i have thought about everything idone [10:35] i am sorry [10:35] clearly not as you've just tried to get around a ban [10:35] the ban will not be lifted at this time as you clearly know what you are doing and ljl explained to you about trying to get around bans [10:36] how i my chat zilla automatically connects to ubuntu [10:37] COOLDOOD: if you'd like to come back in 48 hours we'll discuss this again [10:37] when i turn it on [10:37] COOLDOOD: we'll speak to you in 48 hours [10:37] ididnt try to get round [10:37] COOLDOOD: you did [10:38] it automatticly connects icant stop it [10:38] COOLDOOD: I suggest you disable that auto join and we'll see you in 48 hours [10:38] thats why i came strait here [10:38] no it's not - you came straight here after I kicked you [10:39] why i waited for 24 hours [10:39] COOLDOOD: I suggest you disable the auto join, and come back in 24 hours [10:39] lets leave it for another day - disable the auto join [10:39] no iswear b4 u even kicked me out i was connecting to here [10:39] you where not [10:39] i cant leae it 4 another day i need help quick [10:40] iswear [10:40] COOLDOOD: LJL spent time explaining to you about ban dodging and getting around bans - I'm not prepared to believe your intent. [10:40] COOLDOOD: disable the auto join and we'll see in you tomorrow [10:40] i CANT wait 4 another day [10:41] ijust turned my pc on [10:41] come on [10:41] i waited 24 hours and [10:41] no [10:41] I've just looked and chatzilla doesn't have ubuntu as a default channel to join [10:42] COOLDOOD: please do as asked [10:42] by the way LjL didnt say any thing about bans [10:42] yes he did [10:42] even ask him or her [10:42] even ask him [10:42] I have the conversation logged, he explained to you it was not acceptable to try to get around bans [10:43] dont say that [10:43] I just did - so how I suggest you proceed is disable your auto join setup in chatzilla and come back in 24 hours [10:43] why in 24 hours [10:43] ? [10:44] what did i do [10:44] I'm not repeating this over and over again [10:44] what [10:44] what did i do 2day [10:44] COOLDOOD: if you can't grasp what I'm saying to you, you are unable to understand the rules of the ubuntu irc channels and as such can't use the channel [10:44] no ididnt do anything toy [10:45] COOLDOOD: you tried to get passed a ban - this has been updated, come back in 24 hours and we can resolve this [10:45] i swear i was not trying to get round bans [10:45] promise [10:45] COOLDOOD: this is the last time I will explain this to you [10:45] ok where is LjL [10:45] COOLDOOD: I don't believe you - so I suggest you disable the auto join on chatzilla and come back in 24 hours [10:46] why i am honest [10:46] COOLDOOD: enough - follow the instructions [10:46] where is LjL [10:46] he doesn't appear active at this time [10:46] so when will he [10:46] I don't know [10:46] u do [10:47] I don't know [10:47] ur always ay ubuntu [10:47] t [10:47] that has nothing to do with anything [10:47] COOLDOOD: please come back in 24 hours, remember to remove the auto join on your chatzilla browser [10:47] COOLDOOD: please calm down, and do as requested, i.e. 1) disable the autojoin to #ubuntu in your chatzilla, and 2) come back here tomorrow or any later time at your convenience. i'm sure you'll get the ban resolved that way [10:48] exactly, thank you topyli [10:48] ok then just resolve my problem and i will NEVER come on #ubuntu EVER AGAIN [10:48] no [10:48] please do as instructed [10:48] thats verry rude [10:49] I take that on board, and disagree, so please come back in 24 hours after following the instructions [10:49] ok [10:49] OK [10:49] thank you [10:50] but when LjLcomes online i will speak 2 him [10:50] OK? [10:50] you're welcome to contact LJL when he's available [10:50] please don't idle in this channel though [10:51] ok iwill come on in how many hours?? [10:51] I don't know, I don't know when LJL will be active [10:51] as I explained earlier [10:52] ok 2 hours then bye 2 u 4 24 hours [10:52] bye [11:35] /mode +b *!*@218.73.230.203$#ubuntu-cn [11:35] [Freenode] [!] #ubuntu-cn You're not channel operator [11:35] why. [11:36] doesn't it have to have a mode set to accept forwards ? [11:36] jpds: with Seven you can't forward to channels you're not an operator on [11:36] unless they have the mode ikonia mentions [11:37] Fail. [11:37] yeah, it's annoying [11:37] it's not a bad idea [11:39] its a great idea - or we would have random channels forwarding crazy people to #ubuntu or so. ;) [11:39] jussi: That happens anyway. [11:39] jpds: not with a banforward [11:40] used to happen here with the #3arch or whatever it was called channel [12:06] chanserv slow [13:00] LjL, i am here [13:01] COOLDOOD: i want to ask you some more things before unbanning you. first, if you aren't sure what something does or whether it's appropriate (like the !brain thing you did), ask first. don't just do it. sometimes things that seem innocent, on irc, aren't [13:01] ok understood [13:02] i will ask [13:02] COOLDOOD: second, be more patient. like now, i haven't replied to you in private message for a bunch of seconds, and you were already pinging me again. i don't really mind, but if you do it in #ubuntu, people will mind. [13:03] COOLDOOD: don't repeat your question too quickly, and don't insist on people answering you immediately. give them time. i know you want your wireless issue resolved, but if people can't seem to help you, it's not their fault. [13:03] ok i will wait and be more paiteint [13:03] COOLDOOD: i've unbanned you. please don't make me regret it [13:04] ok thhanks and please tell ikonia [13:04] I already know [13:04] ooh thanks LjL [13:04] COOLDOOD: thank me by behaving :) [13:05] now can i go back to #ubuntu [13:05] COOLDOOD: yes [13:05] unless i've unbanned you wrong [13:05] ok thanks :) [13:05] * Pici waits [13:07] Nephro: do you need any help ? [13:07] i can't see another ban, but he isn't rejoining... [13:07] LjL: he should be fine [13:07] I was only being sarcastic when I said /ban self! [13:07] IdleOne: ^ [13:07] jjovereats: you don't appear to be banned [13:07] from -offtopic. [13:07] jjovereats: and IdleOne was being sarcastic when he pretended to ban you :P [13:08] jjovereats: you're still in #ubuntu-offtopic [13:08] jjovereats: I was only pretending :) [13:08] * Pici sets mode +sarcastic on IdleOne [13:08] * jjovereats unsets mode crazy jjovereats [17:41] * genii-around sips and waits for THIS_IS_INSANE to start asking about getting their ralink usb wireless adapter working [17:42] Heh, wasn't DOOD after all I guess :) [17:43] In ubottu, PythonSnake said: myself is Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [17:44] In ubottu, PythonSnake said: Hi is Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [20:02] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (IdlePantload appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [20:02] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Corky appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [20:45] I wouldn't thank me, I was a hair away from removing them. [20:45] ??? [20:45] me too [20:45] I'm half tempted to with the attitude [20:51] missed something, I did [20:51] hm? [20:53] uh [20:54] I'm reading some of the scrollback in -offtopic. [20:56] Does ryaxnb even get a warning for that, or do y'all think he should know better? [20:56] he should know better, LjL has been working with him [20:57] LjL: you still seem to be non-idle, do you want to take that, or shall I? [20:57] Pici: please handle it, i'd be on the lenient side with him for no reason [20:57] LjL: nothing wrong with that, [20:58] putting in the effort with someone is a good thing [20:58] are you still doing that "trusted op" thing with him ? [20:58] i haven't talked to him about these things in a while, but that's because what i was seeing seemed ok [20:59] things have improved in general, but I've purposfully ignored a lot of what he says due to the work you / others have put in [21:00] I'm busy here with a lot of stuff, so I'll start the ball rolling, but I'm not sure how much I can continue talking. [21:00] yes, whats the issue? [21:00] ryaxnb: one moment. [21:01] Ryukoji: Is there something you needed? [21:01] .. [21:01] i followed ryaxnb [21:01] Ryukoji: no spectators please :P [21:01] but i want in [21:01] :( [21:01] Ryukoji: you can read the logs later if you want [21:01] !logs [21:01] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [21:01] Ryukoji, ill let you know how things go in PM if you want [21:01] :) [21:02] now go away like a good, well-behaved netizen [21:02] so what's the issue? [21:03] if it's the twat comment, i apologize, i didnt realize how much of an insult that was, i thought i remembered reading it in children's book [21:03] ryaxnb: You are aware of the language polcies we have in #ubuntu-offtopic, and I know you've worked with LjL in the past on other things. Which brings me to ask you why you would think that: 10 PRINT "YOU ARE A TWAT FAT SISTER" 20 GOTO 10 would be appropriate for our channel? [21:03] wt happened? [21:03] Ryukoji: is there a reason you've rejoined after being kicked ? [21:04] you left. [21:04] yes [21:04] Ryukoji: please see you're private messages [21:04] your [21:04] anyway, i thought i remember reading that insult in childrens books [21:04] fine ill go [21:04] :( [21:04] i just want ot become a op and hep people out [21:04] i was entirely unaware of the seriousness of the insult [21:04] :(( [21:04] bye [21:05] ryaxnb: It happens. I know you're trying to do better, so I think that we can all agree to let it go. [21:05] i generally think if an insult is found in G and PG rated material such as childrens books, it's A-OK as long as it's not directed at anyone [21:05] is that correct or is that a false assumption [21:05] ryaxnb: never seen twat in a kids book [21:06] it's best to just not throw insults around [21:06] ok, wrong choice of words then [21:06] ryaxnb: it's pretty abusive in generic modern English [21:06] k sure. [21:06] that's not bad thinking in my opinion, but "twat" does raise an eyebrow or two... [21:06] i must have been thinking of something else, i know "twit" was in a roald dahl book [21:06] ryaxnb: very true, [21:06] it's true in general that an insult directed at someone is much worse than an insult directed at no one, but still the latter is not entirely justified [21:06] no, of course not. [21:07] i would never use f or s word in the channel at all, or anything like that. [21:07] or ba* or any of those nasty words [21:07] i haven't used them in some time (in here) [21:07] so yeah, can we let it go? [21:08] ryaxnb: its gone. [21:08] i wont use twit or twat again [21:08] excellent, cya [21:08] also, what does +z mean? [21:08] you havent removed that, what does it mean [21:08] ryaxnb: twits quite friendly "jibe" [21:08] ryaxnb: it means that ops can see what muted people say [21:08] ah k [21:09] twit and s/i/a/ are *very* different O_O [21:17] evening guntbert [21:17] hi ikonia , just a heads up: the -ops logs these days are rather "fresh" - only a few minutes old - I seem to remember you wanted a longer delay [21:18] I thought it was an hour delay, unless something has changed ? [21:18] it should be an hour delay [21:18] well definitely not today - the joining of ryanxb is already readable [21:19] that is pretty fresh [21:19] worth an RT chaps ? [21:19] probably [21:19] definately [21:19] unless someone stops me....I'll do it now [21:19] go for it [21:19] have fun - and thanx for all the effort you put in :) [21:19] guntbert: thanks, didn't know about that [21:19] thank you guntbert [21:20] guntbert: thanks [21:20] nah the logs are fine [21:20] the ryaxnb thing just happened at about the hour [21:20] exactly [21:20] they're not *delayed* by one hour, they're simply *updated* on the hour [21:20] ahhh [21:20] hmmm [21:20] indeed, and that update takes about 3 minutes [21:20] I'll check it "next" hour, to be sure [21:20] thanks LjL [21:20] ok, bye [21:21] thanks guntbert [21:21] you're welcome :-) === LjL is now known as TheFakeLjL [22:04] thefakeljl? [22:04] bazhang: not sure who it is [22:04] its ljl. [22:05] Pici: /nick ObviousPici [22:05] or TheObviousPici [22:05] someone was doing ~Corey earlier, and it was someone very not nice [22:05] bazhang: Yes, but normally they don't /nick to that. [22:05] 16:43:36 >>>> LjL is now known as TheFakeLjL [22:05] Pici, okay, wanted to make sure [22:06] by the way, i just wanted to say [22:06] on 1st july, freenode will change its servers to only allow sasl connections [22:06] * TheFakeLjL runs [22:06] * h00k trips TheFakeLjL [22:06] TheFakeLjL: Oh, I thought it was going to be something about the LjL fanclub. === TheFakeLjL is now known as LjL [22:07] ikonia: btw the logs have rotated again.. [22:07] cool [22:43] * [Logger`] (~supybot@67.210.166.134): Supybot 0.83.4.1 [22:43] wonder if thats a bot [22:43] yep, I mentioned that before [22:43] there's an answer in pm, that's easily googled, but I forgot :( [22:59] it is a bot, yes. [23:00] kill [23:14] vibhav called the ops in #ubuntu-irc () [23:16] Btw , bazhang I am banned from ubuntu-ops , offtopic [23:16] please unban him from here. thats silly [23:19] bazhang: ^ [23:19] thanks tsimpson [23:19] Ok done [23:20] so..... [23:20] vibhav, first then, and lets make this clear: dont blame others for why you were banned [23:20] I am not blaming others [23:20] @btlogin [23:20] Let me tell you the whole stuff once again [23:20] expressing hate about you being banned seems otherwise. [23:21] vibhav, I know it very well. [23:21] whoa [23:21] I've just read what has been said in #ubuntu-irc [23:21] And I mean it [23:21] I did NOT ban you in this channel. [23:21] You did [23:21] vibhav, please no [23:21] You banned me on Ubuntu-offtopic [23:21] vibhav: no, he didn't [23:22] I did not, I have no access in this channel - so I suggest you do not make things up [23:22] Then How was I banned???? [23:22] this is not #ubuntu-offtopic, this is #ubuntu-ops [23:22] I know [23:22] I can give you the screenshot [23:22] he said he didn't ban you in _this_ channel [23:23] Then am I repoted that I cannot join #ubuntu-ops [23:23] I am going to upload the screenshot [23:24] vibhav: you're not listening [23:24] I am [23:24] all ikonia said was that he did not ban you in this channel, which he didn't [23:24] Oh really? [23:25] Can you check the logs ?? [23:25] Ikonia banned me from #ubuntu-offtopic also [23:25] I already have checked, that's why I said that he didn't [23:25] Then how com e was I banned? [23:26] because someone else banned you from this channel [23:26] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/pproof.jpg/ [23:26] who did that now? [23:26] does it really matter, I thought you wanted to resolve your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic? [23:26] ohh yes [23:26] and in #ubuntu too [23:29] hello? [23:31] vibhav: give tsimpson a minute please [23:31] ok [23:31] !guidelines | vibhav [23:31] vibhav: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [23:32] I know [23:32] !codeofconduct | vibhav [23:32] vibhav: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct [23:32] I signed the code of conduct too [23:32] read it carefully [23:32] I just offered wrong advice [23:32] vibhav, please take a few minutes and re-read those both very carefully [23:32] But this was the first time I did it [23:32] I always help people with good results [23:33] swear [23:33] vibhav, we wont move forward until you have re-read those both very carefully [23:33] Reading it right now [23:36] read it [23:36] vibhav, there are two. [23:36] yeah [23:36] so please read them *both*. [23:37] ok [23:37] done [23:38] vibhav, so after reading them both very carefully, you know why you were banned? [23:38] *sigh* yeah [23:38] ? [23:39] I have read it [23:40] you know why you were banned? [23:40] vibhav, ^ [23:40] yes , cause I was impatient and not collaborative and did not use !best [23:41] @ikonia - instead of !hcl you should have use !best [23:41] vibhav, thats hardly it, no [23:42] I was not respectfull to the ops [23:42] vibhav, you seem to think it was a single issue. it was not. [23:42] So can you tell me what was the issue [23:42] vibhav, I just said it was *not* a single issue. [23:43] Ok can you tell me the issues?? [23:45] vibhav, I'm not comfortable with removing the ban on you in #ubuntu as this point in time. [23:45] why? [23:45] you have no clear idea why you were banned there, it seems. [23:45] I hav [23:45] not in my view. [23:46] See I gave wrong adive and ignored ikonia [23:47] vibhav, you ignored many people asking you to stop, myself included (on many occasions) [23:48] stop what bazhang, stop what? [23:48] Did I troll [23:48] Did I flame [23:48] stop what [23:48] /me wants to help!! who wants help!! [23:48] ohh [23:48] amongst others [23:49] I was trying to help others [23:49] And it kinda worked [23:49] and asked not to do that repeatedly [23:49] ok [23:49] I accept my mistake [23:50] vibhav, so you have a very hard time listening to others, and following the channel guidelines; indeed even remembering that someone asked you to stop something a short time after. that, in sum, is why I think lifting your ban in #ubuntu is not warranted at this point in time. [23:51] Ok I promise I will not do thayt [23:51] vibhav, that time is past. [23:51] Never dwell in the past [23:52] agreed. [23:52] vibhav, your ban will not be lifted in #ubuntu . [23:52] why?? [23:52] and if not , when will it be lifted? [23:52] vibhav, I just said why. three or so lines up^. [23:53] But I promised to 6 lines up ^ [23:53] vibhav, lets not argue about this. you will not be unbanned at this point in time. [23:54] what about offtopic [23:56] vibhav, that is outside my purview, as I have no access there. this was purely about #ubuntu . a word of advice though: blaming others, saying you "hate" certain people, and calling the !ops to get attention, are not the quick route to getting unbanned, or a favorable response from those in charge of making that decision. something to think about. [23:56]