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nhainesWell once again the LoCo Council is trying to force a mandate on all LoCos that obviously wasn't planned, isn't organized, doesn't fix the problem they're proposing to solve, grants exceptions to a single team, and are trying to limit discussion.00:01
nhainesI'm glad they have no sense of branding or local autonomy.  It'd be a shame if they were helpful.00:02
atikussounds loco to me00:11
* atikus rimshot00:11
nhainesheh00:11
* pleia2 sighs00:12
pleia2I don't even think they ever finished the last renaming effort from a few years ago00:12
pleia2this is terribly frustrating00:12
nhainesThey didn't.00:13
nhainesIf they want to fix the LoCo Directory, then they should do that.  Tampering with Launchpad usernames and descriptions is insane.00:13
pleia2yeah00:14
pleia2well, their email said they were open to discussion so we'll see :) I replied00:14
nhainesI'd believe them more if they didn't get angry at anyone who brought up concerns.00:15
nhainesI'll reply too but it'll have to be later tonight.  Which is probably for the best anyway.00:15
pleia2probably :)00:15
nhainesBonus points for telling language-based teams they're not "true" LoCos.00:19
pleia2yeah, that made me wince quite a bit00:19
pleia2the session at UDS got totally derailed talking about france00:20
pleia2well, "the french team"00:20
pleia2which has hosted the largest release parties in the world, but apparently isn't a "true" loco00:20
pleia2I had hoped that discussion would lead them to not do this renaming thing because the french team is hardly a strange exception, but I guess not :(00:21
nhainesI like how the second objection ("Ubuntu UK" would need to be renamed "ubuntu-gb") was met with 'Oh, well, *obviously* not Ubuntu UK.  This doesn't apply to them.'00:22
pleia2yeah, I mentioned in my mail that they aren't the only ones to have branded themselves00:23
pleia2they really just need to fix the loco directory, reading through a list of names, even organized names, isn't always easy on the human brain00:24
nhainesThey've been trying to destroy LoCo teams' branding for a couple of years now.  They only managed to screw with Ubuntu California's branding as an attack of opportunity.00:24
erichammondWhere can I see an archive of the discussion you are discussing?00:25
pleia2https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-June/thread.html#544500:25
pleia2"[RFC] LEP#1, Standardize the LoCo Team Display Names "00:25
nhainesThe last time they tried to implement the "rule", they backpedalled so fast I thought the chain would fall off.00:25
erichammondpleia2: thanks.00:25
pleia2anyone heading out to ohio for OLF this year? they're looking for ubucon speakers04:49
seidosunfortunately i won't be, which is a shame because i've never been to Ohio04:52
nhainesI wish I were!05:02
pleia2me too05:08
* seidos wishes he were drinking a soda05:12
* seidos gets a soda from the fridge05:12
seidos\o/05:12
pleia2\o/05:13
seidoslol05:13
MarkDudeAnyone want Google +1 invite?09:19
pleia2they sure opened the flood gates with invites this time09:20
MarkDudelol09:21
MarkDudeI like the circles thing09:22
MarkDudeIt appears they09:22
pleia2I think the whole thing is awful :)09:22
MarkDudehave done the circles thing decently09:22
MarkDudeWell - I think at the least- it will make FB make better privcy controls09:23
arileyGood Morning I'm new to this room but definitely not so new to Ubuntu.17:44
pleia2welcome ariley :)17:45
arileyThank you pleia217:45
MarkDudeWelcome ariley17:46
MarkDude:)17:46
arileyThanks everyone17:46
arileyI was wondering if anyone here has been using skype on ubuntu 11.0417:48
arileySome of my coworkers have been having issues using skype on ubuntu. (ie skype crashing mid call)17:52
pleia2it's certainly quite popular among ubuntu folks but I haven't used skype (or any other video/voice calling service) in ages17:52
arileythanks pleia217:54
pleia2btw, added our team banners to our flyers repository https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california/+junk/flyers19:24
pleia2banner files are the ones jdeslip used to make the banner we used at scale and stuff19:25
seidosbuh20:11

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