[00:01] Well once again the LoCo Council is trying to force a mandate on all LoCos that obviously wasn't planned, isn't organized, doesn't fix the problem they're proposing to solve, grants exceptions to a single team, and are trying to limit discussion. [00:02] I'm glad they have no sense of branding or local autonomy. It'd be a shame if they were helpful. [00:11] sounds loco to me [00:11] * atikus rimshot [00:11] heh [00:12] * pleia2 sighs [00:12] I don't even think they ever finished the last renaming effort from a few years ago [00:12] this is terribly frustrating [00:13] They didn't. [00:13] If they want to fix the LoCo Directory, then they should do that. Tampering with Launchpad usernames and descriptions is insane. [00:14] yeah [00:14] well, their email said they were open to discussion so we'll see :) I replied [00:15] I'd believe them more if they didn't get angry at anyone who brought up concerns. [00:15] I'll reply too but it'll have to be later tonight. Which is probably for the best anyway. [00:15] probably :) [00:19] Bonus points for telling language-based teams they're not "true" LoCos. [00:19] yeah, that made me wince quite a bit [00:20] the session at UDS got totally derailed talking about france [00:20] well, "the french team" [00:20] which has hosted the largest release parties in the world, but apparently isn't a "true" loco [00:21] I had hoped that discussion would lead them to not do this renaming thing because the french team is hardly a strange exception, but I guess not :( [00:22] I like how the second objection ("Ubuntu UK" would need to be renamed "ubuntu-gb") was met with 'Oh, well, *obviously* not Ubuntu UK. This doesn't apply to them.' [00:23] yeah, I mentioned in my mail that they aren't the only ones to have branded themselves [00:24] they really just need to fix the loco directory, reading through a list of names, even organized names, isn't always easy on the human brain [00:24] They've been trying to destroy LoCo teams' branding for a couple of years now. They only managed to screw with Ubuntu California's branding as an attack of opportunity. [00:25] Where can I see an archive of the discussion you are discussing? [00:25] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-June/thread.html#5445 [00:25] "[RFC] LEP#1, Standardize the LoCo Team Display Names " [00:25] The last time they tried to implement the "rule", they backpedalled so fast I thought the chain would fall off. [00:25] pleia2: thanks. [04:49] anyone heading out to ohio for OLF this year? they're looking for ubucon speakers [04:52] unfortunately i won't be, which is a shame because i've never been to Ohio [05:02] I wish I were! [05:08] me too [05:12] * seidos wishes he were drinking a soda [05:12] * seidos gets a soda from the fridge [05:12] \o/ [05:13] \o/ [05:13] lol [09:19] Anyone want Google +1 invite? [09:20] they sure opened the flood gates with invites this time [09:21] lol [09:22] I like the circles thing [09:22] It appears they [09:22] I think the whole thing is awful :) [09:22] have done the circles thing decently [09:23] Well - I think at the least- it will make FB make better privcy controls [17:44] Good Morning I'm new to this room but definitely not so new to Ubuntu. [17:45] welcome ariley :) [17:45] Thank you pleia2 [17:46] Welcome ariley [17:46] :) [17:46] Thanks everyone [17:48] I was wondering if anyone here has been using skype on ubuntu 11.04 [17:52] Some of my coworkers have been having issues using skype on ubuntu. (ie skype crashing mid call) [17:52] it's certainly quite popular among ubuntu folks but I haven't used skype (or any other video/voice calling service) in ages [17:54] thanks pleia2 [19:24] btw, added our team banners to our flyers repository https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california/+junk/flyers [19:25] banner files are the ones jdeslip used to make the banner we used at scale and stuff [20:11] buh