[00:01] <nhaines> Well once again the LoCo Council is trying to force a mandate on all LoCos that obviously wasn't planned, isn't organized, doesn't fix the problem they're proposing to solve, grants exceptions to a single team, and are trying to limit discussion.
[00:02] <nhaines> I'm glad they have no sense of branding or local autonomy.  It'd be a shame if they were helpful.
[00:11] <atikus> sounds loco to me
[00:11]  * atikus rimshot
[00:11] <nhaines> heh
[00:12]  * pleia2 sighs
[00:12] <pleia2> I don't even think they ever finished the last renaming effort from a few years ago
[00:12] <pleia2> this is terribly frustrating
[00:13] <nhaines> They didn't.
[00:13] <nhaines> If they want to fix the LoCo Directory, then they should do that.  Tampering with Launchpad usernames and descriptions is insane.
[00:14] <pleia2> yeah
[00:14] <pleia2> well, their email said they were open to discussion so we'll see :) I replied
[00:15] <nhaines> I'd believe them more if they didn't get angry at anyone who brought up concerns.
[00:15] <nhaines> I'll reply too but it'll have to be later tonight.  Which is probably for the best anyway.
[00:15] <pleia2> probably :)
[00:19] <nhaines> Bonus points for telling language-based teams they're not "true" LoCos.
[00:19] <pleia2> yeah, that made me wince quite a bit
[00:20] <pleia2> the session at UDS got totally derailed talking about france
[00:20] <pleia2> well, "the french team"
[00:20] <pleia2> which has hosted the largest release parties in the world, but apparently isn't a "true" loco
[00:21] <pleia2> I had hoped that discussion would lead them to not do this renaming thing because the french team is hardly a strange exception, but I guess not :(
[00:22] <nhaines> I like how the second objection ("Ubuntu UK" would need to be renamed "ubuntu-gb") was met with 'Oh, well, *obviously* not Ubuntu UK.  This doesn't apply to them.'
[00:23] <pleia2> yeah, I mentioned in my mail that they aren't the only ones to have branded themselves
[00:24] <pleia2> they really just need to fix the loco directory, reading through a list of names, even organized names, isn't always easy on the human brain
[00:24] <nhaines> They've been trying to destroy LoCo teams' branding for a couple of years now.  They only managed to screw with Ubuntu California's branding as an attack of opportunity.
[00:25] <erichammond> Where can I see an archive of the discussion you are discussing?
[00:25] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-June/thread.html#5445
[00:25] <pleia2> "[RFC] LEP#1, Standardize the LoCo Team Display Names "
[00:25] <nhaines> The last time they tried to implement the "rule", they backpedalled so fast I thought the chain would fall off.
[00:25] <erichammond> pleia2: thanks.
[04:49] <pleia2> anyone heading out to ohio for OLF this year? they're looking for ubucon speakers
[04:52] <seidos> unfortunately i won't be, which is a shame because i've never been to Ohio
[05:02] <nhaines> I wish I were!
[05:08] <pleia2> me too
[05:12]  * seidos wishes he were drinking a soda
[05:12]  * seidos gets a soda from the fridge
[05:12] <seidos> \o/
[05:13] <pleia2> \o/
[05:13] <seidos> lol
[09:19] <MarkDude> Anyone want Google +1 invite?
[09:20] <pleia2> they sure opened the flood gates with invites this time
[09:21] <MarkDude> lol
[09:22] <MarkDude> I like the circles thing
[09:22] <MarkDude> It appears they
[09:22] <pleia2> I think the whole thing is awful :)
[09:22] <MarkDude> have done the circles thing decently
[09:23] <MarkDude> Well - I think at the least- it will make FB make better privcy controls
[17:44] <ariley> Good Morning I'm new to this room but definitely not so new to Ubuntu.
[17:45] <pleia2> welcome ariley :)
[17:45] <ariley> Thank you pleia2
[17:46] <MarkDude> Welcome ariley
[17:46] <MarkDude> :)
[17:46] <ariley> Thanks everyone
[17:48] <ariley> I was wondering if anyone here has been using skype on ubuntu 11.04
[17:52] <ariley> Some of my coworkers have been having issues using skype on ubuntu. (ie skype crashing mid call)
[17:52] <pleia2> it's certainly quite popular among ubuntu folks but I haven't used skype (or any other video/voice calling service) in ages
[17:54] <ariley> thanks pleia2
[19:24] <pleia2> btw, added our team banners to our flyers repository https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california/+junk/flyers
[19:25] <pleia2> banner files are the ones jdeslip used to make the banner we used at scale and stuff
[20:11] <seidos> buh