[00:17]  * skellat ensures the logging is set to send an e-mail log of tonight's meeting as well as push a PDF down the podcast feed
[00:25] <BiosElement> If anyone ever thought of buying anything from sony again...
[00:25] <BiosElement> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110628/17041014894/sony-ceo-we-were-hacked-freetards-who-just-want-everything-free.shtml
[00:26] <BiosElement> Is a great reason why you shouldn't
[00:27] <BiosElement> PSN downtime blamed on "freetards", awesome haha
[00:28] <BiosElement> Oh, and to top it off, a month of downtime on what was one of the biggest gaming platforms in the world is "a hiccup" hehe
[00:35] <Cheri703> I might be a bit late to the meeting
[00:59] <Cheri703> nvm, I'm here
[01:01] <skellat> Alrighty.  Ready and waiting for the start.
[01:01] <jacob> /here
[01:02] <Unit193> I'm here for a bit...
[01:07] <Cheri703> ok, so I have no idea if gilbert__ is around, but I guess I can sort of get things started
[01:09] <Cheri703> can anyone else who is here for the meeting pipe up so we can see who all is around?
[01:10]  * BiosElement waves
[01:10] <Cheri703> hmm, ok
[01:10] <BiosElement> Real popular meeting
[01:10] <jacob> :P
[01:11] <Cheri703> Well, first order of business was to sort of get a spot check on IF there are actually reloco leads, and if various areas are having ubuntu-hours and meetups and such
[01:12] <Cheri703> it looks like canthus13 and I are the only reloco leads here (if he's around), so I can't really ask any of the listed ones
[01:12] <Cheri703> Anyone who is here and in an area that does NOT have a lead/reloco happening?
[01:12] <jacob> maybe ping them over email, check up on things and whatnot
[01:12] <Cheri703> yeah, will do, just was hoping to catch them here :)
[01:13] <canthus13> I'm kind of around.
[01:14] <Cheri703> np
[01:14] <Cheri703> ok, moving on: Hopefully within the next month or so, there will be some changes coming to the website. Among the planned changes are making it more "newbie friendly" new to the LoCo at least. If anyone has any suggestions for the site, please send them to the list or to me directly, as I'm going to be working on it.
[01:15] <Cheri703> anyone have any thoughts/suggestions off the top of their head?
[01:15] <Cheri703> things you'd like to see added/removed/changed?
[01:16] <canthus13> Not really...
[01:16] <Cheri703> ok
[01:16]  * canthus13 eyeballs the site.
[01:16] <skellat> We need to integrate the forum more easily into the site
[01:16] <Cheri703> thank you skellat, I knew there was something about forums that I wanted to mention...
[01:17] <canthus13> That would be nice.... of course, if more people frequent the forum, we'll get yelled at for being off-topic. :)
[01:17] <Cheri703> I want to solicit the list (and probably the forum) for someone to be a liaison between the list and the forum. Someone who can sort of update between the two, if that makes sense
[01:18] <Cheri703> even a "this week's new topics in the forum" email each week, or linking to the list archive or something
[01:18] <Cheri703> just to keep things on the radar for both groups
[01:18] <jacob> +1
[01:18] <skellat> For that we need more than just the openbox-desktop thread active
[01:18] <canthus13> The forum is pretty much dead.... I wonder if there is a way to pipe a weekly list digest to the forum, though...
[01:18] <Cheri703> anyone want to jump in and take the lead on figuring out options for that?
[01:18] <jacob> the forums used to have some really nice mailing-list <-> forum tunnel that would automatically crosspost, but that feature isn't returning soon
[01:19] <jacob> not at least until the vB4 upgrade
[01:19] <skellat> jacob: Why not?
[01:19] <Unit193> I have seen IRC bots that update from forum posts... (Not what we need though...)
[01:20] <jacob> skellat: software issues. it caused load problems, and I believe it's no longer maintained for vBulletin 3. would have to ask FC for details
[01:21] <skellat> I suggest we defer action on the forums while the question is put to The Forum Council about software capabilities
[01:21] <Cheri703> ok, skellat, would you take responsibility for asking the forum council?
[01:21] <skellat> Cheri703: Yes.  I'll copy the High Council on my query.
[01:21] <Cheri703> ok, thanks
[01:22] <jacob> ping me if you don't get a response on it; i'll poke some people
[01:22] <skellat> jacob: Understood.
[01:22] <Cheri703> so that is pretty much all I had as far as specific items to cover tonight. Any questions, comments, thoughts, suggestions from anyone about the LoCo in general?
[01:23] <skellat> I will post the log to the forum, the list, and push a PDF down the podcast feed
[01:23] <Cheri703> great, thanks skellat
[01:23] <jacob> Cheri703: you mentioned redirecting some of the website to the wiki, anything for now? or hold on that a bit
[01:24] <Cheri703> jacob: we can discuss that at some point when gilbert__ is around, he had thoughts on that
[01:24] <Cheri703> I will give a quick update on the Mansfield ReLoCo: we have been having ubuntu hours every two weeks since January (pretty much), and we lately had a spike in attendance (thanks in large part to skrappjaw discovering us and bringing friends), and have had at least 5 people at the last several meetings, and more on occasion.
[01:24] <jacob> sounds good
[01:25] <jacob> good, good :)
[01:26] <Cheri703> ok, if no one else has anything to share? I think that's it...
[01:26] <jacob> and OLF news?
[01:27] <jacob> i think itsafork was working on heading that up before, just curious if there's anything new
[01:27] <Cheri703> I have no clue
[01:27] <jacob> hehe
[01:27] <Cheri703> I haven't spoken to itsafork for a while...I will make sure info gets posted to the list as we get updates
[01:28] <Cheri703> ok, meeting adjourned :)
[01:30] <skellat> E-mailed
[01:32] <skellat> Posted to the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10996301
[01:33] <Unit193> Reminds me not to comment...
[01:35] <skellat> And pushed down the podcast feed: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/50
[01:39] <Unit193> skellat: Good job on the logs!
[01:41] <skellat> Unit193: At least that makes another forum thread this month!
[01:46] <itsafork> hey guys, just saw cheri's email. i thought the meeting was tomorrow night
[01:46] <Cheri703> it's ok
[01:47] <itsafork> so, what's shacken???
[01:47] <Cheri703> skellat just sent the logs
[01:48] <Cheri703> itsafork: any updates on OLF?
[01:49] <itsafork> cheri703: at this point it's mainly just coming up with topics & possible speakers
[01:51] <Cheri703> kk
[01:51] <itsafork> cheri703: do you know who the guy is that was/is doing the gestures development for ubuntu & tablet stuff??? i was thinking he would be a fantastic person to speak about emerging technologies with ubuntu!
[01:52] <jacob> chase douglas
[01:52] <itsafork> IDEAAAAA!!!!!!
[01:52] <Cheri703> he moved...
[01:52] <jacob> ^
[01:52] <itsafork> well poo!
[01:52] <Cheri703> :/
[01:52] <itsafork> ok, back to my IDEAAAAA!!!!!
[01:52] <Cheri703> ok
[01:52] <jacob> :P
[01:53] <itsafork> cheri703, would you want to/ be interested in speaking about the development process for ubuntu, & how everything kinda flows in that arena???
[01:54] <Cheri703> uh, I don't really do development...
[01:54]  * Cheri703 is more community side...
[01:55] <itsafork> o... jacob?? hows about you (same question i just asked cheri703)
[02:02] <jacob> hmm -- i've been a bit out of touch with development for some time. see if you can give jorge a ping, maybe he knows someone going to OLF that would be able
[02:02] <Cheri703> I can ask around if anyone I spoke with at UDS is coming to OLF
[02:05] <itsafork> holy chuncks of flying poop batman! are you trying to tell me that there isn't a single Ubuntu developer in ohio that would be interested in speaking speaking for 10-20 minutes & then answering strange questions for another 10-20 minutes?!?!?
[02:05] <jacob> i'm sure there is :) they're just not in this channel
[02:06] <itsafork> lame!
[02:06] <jacob> :P
[02:06] <itsafork> cheri703: that;s not a bad idea. would you mind hopping on that?? fyi: UbuCon is going to be on friday again this year
[02:07] <Cheri703> ok, I'll ask around
[02:08] <itsafork> also not sure if you guys remember, but all of olf last year i was wearing a hat, i will be wearing a hat this year as well, how crazy fun do all of you think i should go with this years hat????
[02:08] <jacob> can never have enough hat
[02:09] <itsafork> i was thinking top hat, but they are hard to find & usually pretty expensive too
[02:09] <itsafork> maybe a buller hat or a fat hat....
[02:11] <jacob> :D
[02:21] <gillyman> hey cheri
[02:21] <Cheri703> hi
[02:21] <gillyman> did i miss the meeting
[02:21] <Cheri703> yeah, it's ok though. skellat posted the logs to the mailing list
[02:22] <itsafork> hey i am completely exhausted, so i'm going to cut out.
[02:22] <Cheri703> ttyl itsafork
[02:22] <itsafork> cheri703: laters. night.
[02:23] <gillyman> ok i was trying ti get all of my crap i lost and i need to figuar out how to get back on irc
[02:24] <gillyman> what all was said during the meeting
[02:24] <Cheri703> not a lot really
[02:24] <gillyman> im going to get back to getting my computer set back up
[03:04] <skellat> Derp
[05:06] <Cheri703> http://wins.failblog.org/2011/06/29/epic-win-photos-pool-portal-win
[05:12] <EricR2427> Reminds me of this :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L-rrkyvApU
[06:11] <Unit193> Howdy skrappjaw , skellat
[06:11] <skellat> Howdy
[06:11] <skellat> It seems I managed to get some bit of OpenBox functional on Lucid
[06:12] <Unit193> I/we got someone to package gsimplecal! And that's great about Lucid! (I may still try Oneiric...)
[06:13] <skellat> Who is packaging gsimplecal?
[06:16] <Unit193> echo skellat > ##openbox-desktop
[06:16] <skrappjaw> hey
[06:17] <skrappjaw> sorry i missed the meeting. Been fighting to get a signal on my router.
[06:17] <Unit193> The logs were sent by mail, posted on the forums, and in the podcast feed
[06:18] <skrappjaw> So I gave up and spent some quality time with my girl. :)
[06:18] <skrappjaw> Ya. I saw that.
[06:18] <skrappjaw> I read on my crackberry.
[06:18] <skellat> Any other distribution method I missed?
[06:18] <skrappjaw> Getting a Droid X2 to replace it in the next day or so.
[06:18] <Unit193> skellat: Haha! Not that I know of... /topic?
[15:36] <Cheri703> I'm already annoyed at google+...I invited 2 people last night, and when I went to bed, the "invite" link was active, and now it's gone, and I have ONE more person I want to invite
[15:37] <deejoe> USED UP
[15:38] <deejoe> see, this is the thing with the invites, the first thing to do is invite another one of your accounts
[15:38] <deejoe> geometrically progressing invites!
[15:47] <Cheri703> "Before you ask: No, I can’t send you an invite. Google has turned off invites for now due to “insane demand.” Sorry!"
[15:47] <Cheri703> courtesy of omg ubuntu
[16:02] <_bbb> does not work with google apps
[16:02] <_bbb> useless
[16:59] <thafreak> OMG I F***ING hate mediawiki right now
[17:00] <_bbb> hate leads to suffering
[17:00] <thafreak> bout to go to #mediawiki and punch faces
[17:04] <canthus13> suffering leads to cookies.
[17:06] <thafreak> cookies lead to the darkside
[17:08] <canthus13> ...or the fatside.
[17:10] <deejoe> _bbb is confused.  attachment leads to suffering.  hate is just evidence of attachment
[17:12] <_bbb> stress leads to doobies
[17:12] <_bbb> good blow this is
[17:12] <_bbb> get down do you
[17:30] <canthus13> deejoe: attachments are the darkside.  Especially .docx ones.
[17:32] <canthus13> Oh yay... obama's paying $50k apiece for votes.... http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/113040/more-money-for-struggling-homeowners-smartmoney?mod=series-m-article-b
[18:29] <Unit193> Quick question: Why is Derath on the vVotsriRfA list? Is he higher up than I thought?
[18:35] <deejoe> haha "higher up"
[18:35] <deejoe> more like "deeper in"
[18:36] <deejoe> but I don't know, tbih, in either case
[18:36] <Unit193> That is true... I thought some of the people on the access list were from the older days...
[18:37] <Unit193> Were you around when PPK and such were here?
[18:37] <deejoe> dunno
[18:38] <deejoe> I think -oh formed after -ny, but I may be misremembering.  If I've got it right, there's a chance I was.
[18:38] <deejoe> I just paid a lot less attention back then because traffic was higher.
[18:38] <Unit193> Back in 2008
[18:41] <deejoe> oh yeah.  I was around then.
[18:41] <deejoe> but if I don't remember, not sure how much it matters :-)
[18:45] <canthus13> the what list?
[18:45] <Unit193> I'm still wondering what happened to all them... I was around back then, but I mostly talked to tnseditor (And I quit stopping by)
[18:45] <Unit193> canthus13: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-us-oh list
[18:46] <canthus13> oh. that.
[19:29] <thafreak> http://i.imgur.com/iYnGb.png
[19:33] <Unit193> thafreak: Nice! Looks like MS likes it's toster a little too much!
[19:36] <canthus13> thafreak: Meh. old news (THe MS making apps for linux thing...)  They've contributed to the kernel in the past..
[19:38] <Unit193> I did see some info on codeplex for that. Would you ever use Codeplex?
[19:45]  * canthus13 has no idea what codeplex is.
[19:45] <Unit193> Microsofts SourceForge
[19:46] <canthus13> Ah. Prolly not.. they likely have some sort of gotcha in the licensing.
[21:06] <thafreak> oh customers....so frustrating sometimes
[21:07] <thafreak> Kind of wish you could charge a premium for hassles caused by ineptitude
[21:07] <thafreak> oh wait...I make the pricing, so I guess I could
[21:08] <Unit193> What's this $20 charge for an ID10-T error?
[21:54] <canthus13> thafreak: You're making money for their ineptitude... what more do you want?
[23:12] <thafreak> canthus13: yeah, but not nearly enough
[23:15] <canthus13> thafreak: Better than me... I don't get any extra for "I can't get it up! Can you help me?"