[02:46] right, so I don't know jack about jack, but I do know that if you can't get a server to run, you can't connect a client to it... ubuntu studio comes pre-jacked, does it not? [02:47] ryjyd: jack should be installed by default [02:47] its part of the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage too [02:48] *if* you are running normal buntu, or any or the other variants... sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio [02:48] anyways.. whats the issue? [02:48] either its in the menu, or its no? [02:48] not* [02:48] ryjyd: are you trying to use JACK with an internal sound card? [02:49] holstein: well, most of it is there, but when running qjackctl, it's trying to attach to my midi controller?!... that has no speakers on it... [02:49] it should be trying to connect to an m-audio fast track usb... thingy... [02:50] actually, alsa is what is probably communicating with your midi hardware [02:50] ....anyways [02:50] ryjyd: if you would, unplug the maudio, and whatever else [02:50] close everything, and open a terminal [02:50] I am able to output via audacious to the m-audio unit (yeah, figured alsa was the rogue of the bunch... jealous of pulseaudio, prob...) [02:51] all but usb mouse is unplugged... term up [02:52] cool [02:52] run [02:52] gksudo qjackctl [02:53] and click on 'setup' [02:53] driver should be 'alsa' [02:53] you should see sample rate [02:53] set that to 441000 [02:53] there are 2 settings that we tweak [02:54] when you here folks talk about latency [02:54] still with ya [02:54] know about latency, yup [02:54] those are frames/period and periods/buffer [02:54] for now [02:54] set frames/period to 512 [02:54] and periods/buffer to 3 [02:54] then, save or hit OK [02:54] k [02:54] and get back out to the main window [02:55] hit 'start' [02:55] it should just start, and not throw any errors [02:55] is that true? [02:55] it is not... [02:55] what are the errors? [02:55] let me plug in the maudio... that's my "sound card" for now... 1 sec and i will retry [02:56] ryjyd: i think folks find it helpful to disable the internal card in te bios, if thats an option [02:56] ryjyd: when you get that plugged [02:56] go back to 'setup' [02:56] might be, might not... never had to try it until now... [02:57] you'll see 'interface' [02:57] hw:0 or something like that [02:57] there are *2* drop down menus there [02:57] one arrow pointing down [02:57] and one pointing right [02:57] you might actually see the maudio listed on the one pointing right [02:58] if you do, select it, and lets save, and try starting again [02:58] we *dont* want to run JACK as root (sudo) normally... this just helps us troubleshoot the hardware config without worrying with permissions [02:59] passed you 10 miles back... I really need to get into the habit of looking at the screen and rtfm and all that if I'm going to get back into linux, I'll tell ya [02:59] yup... it's def running now [02:59] ryjyd: OK [02:59] and thats utilizing the maudio correct? [03:00] if so, *stop* jack [03:00] close it [03:00] and open it as your normal user, and make sure its starts and runs [03:00] it "says" it is, but I haven't had the opportunity to test... I have a couple other similar options, which I would wager are channels "A" and "B"... hardware specific [03:00] I can just run anything that makes noise and jack it into jack, right? [03:00] ryjyd: yeah, lets assume all is well, and confirm as normal user [03:01] then, we'll make some noise :) [03:02] okay, did pretty much everything all over again, plus added a mic in, just in case for later... [03:02] that's as a normal user [03:02] OK [03:03] and it is "running" [03:03] what do you mean by 'added a mic in' ? [03:03] anyways... what we do is on the jack control panel, open 'connect' [03:03] then, open up something like yoshimi or zynaddsubfx [03:04] yoshimi if you have it* [03:04] you'll see yoshimi show up in JACK connect [03:04] there are two optional inputs ID'd as maudio, and three maudio outs... play with and see if it works [03:04] you connect the yoshimi outs on the left side to the main sound card outputs on the right [03:05] that might be done by default [03:05] then, you can go to yoshimi, and open the virtual keyboard from the menu, and make some sounds [03:07] didn't work... trying a different output... I think i know what to fix... 1 sec [03:08] yeah, its challenging to have a how to [03:08] all hardware is different really [03:10] agreed... nope, not getting it quite yet... [03:10] there are guys with that hardware over in #opensourcemusicians [03:11] im not sure what you mean by 'optional outputs' [03:11] i would leave those other settings in 'setup' to the defaults [03:11] optional, like "pick one of these"? a guy's gotta have options, right? [03:11] you want all the inputs and outputs of your device to be useable by jack [03:12] its not so much you pick one of the optional ones [03:12] i have 8 inputs [03:12] 10 actually [03:12] but i use the 8 xlr inputs a lot [03:12] all routed to ardour tracks [03:12] and you can see them all in jack? [03:12] right [03:12] they are just all 10 there [03:12] on both sides [03:12] all 10 ins and outs [03:13] that another reason why we want to use JACK [03:13] hmm... I gotta be not knowing what I'm seeing... [03:13] yeah, its something fiddly i bet [03:14] take a screen shot if you want [03:14] well, maybe a numbers game: [03:14] maybe you're not in the 'audio' tabe [03:14] tab* [03:14] when you click on 'connect' [03:14] that window that opens should have 3 tabs [03:14] audio, midi, and alsa [03:15] yeah, it's the audio tab... but check the weirdness out: if I say "hw:1", then I say "hw:1,1", what do I mean? [03:15] you want to route the audio outs of the software yoshimi to the audio ins of your soundcards physical outs [03:15] ryjyd: right, i say leave those default [03:16] default points to the internal soundcard... that's how I got into this fun part [03:16] not if you have the maudio chosen in the other drop down [03:16] there are 2 dropdown menus there [03:16] most folks just find the one [03:17] you should be on maudio hw:0 [03:17] if i had to guess [03:17] but, those can change [03:18] nope... hw:1, and hw:2 is the internal sound card... wonder what happened to hw:0 [03:18] right [03:18] but there is another drop down menu [03:18] with actual text in it [03:18] say... you don't suppose the midi controller was hw:0 do you? [03:18] right beside that [03:19] its got a > on it [03:19] thats where you'll see the actual word 'maudio' [03:19] when i use my maudio transit, i see it there [03:19] 'maudio transit' [03:19] ryjyd: what midi controller? [03:20] you are talking about the onboard midi on the maudio right? [03:20] thats running right now via alsa [03:20] you can have jack stopped, and use the connect area of jack to make alsa midi connections [03:21] so, no.. hw:0 was *not* the midi controller [03:21] akai pro lpk25... a usb keyboard, as in piano, not typing [03:21] if i were you... i would unplug *all* of that [03:21] get jack running and making noise with the internal card [03:21] maudio was all we were working with [03:22] then, you'll have some experience making sounds [03:22] just now, that is... had the lpk25 plugged in at first until you suggested otherwise [03:22] i see [03:22] still, i would say, get your feet wet with the internal card [03:23] agreed... I just have a bad habit of plugging all my toys in at once [03:23] (kids... sheesh) [03:23] or, ask over in #opensourcemusicians [03:23] i know some folks have that device [03:23] ryjyd: hehe [03:24] listen... you've been a big help, a good reminder and gave me a great start... the rest is just foolin with it [03:24] yeah, its just a lot to tweak all in one go [03:24] you'll get it [03:24] its fiddly at first [03:24] btw, I plugged the lpk25 in just now... there's my hw:0 [03:24] lol [03:24] figures... [03:25] holstein, thanks very much again... I will try my hand in that room and see what plays out... [03:25] sure... anytime [03:25] hey [03:26] ryjyd: im vaugely remembering someone saying that device needs 'force 16bit' [03:26] thats a checkbox in 'setup' [03:26] you can easily try it, and go back if you want [21:31] hi [21:31] everybody [21:32] i have linuxmint9(ubuntu10.04) i search a good way to install all package like ubuntu studio [21:32] to don't have problem server with jackd [21:33] please little help (code source terminal) [21:33] or a tutorial way [21:58] !vanilla [21:58] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [21:58] Those instructions should work OK with linuxmint too [21:58] I tried it before in a VM with mint9 so nothing should be totally off [21:58] At least it doesn't blow up, not sure I can guarantee anything more but it /should/ be fine. [21:59] Oh, already left [21:59] :/