| charlie-tca | You can even have Kubuntu,Ubuntu,Xubuntu,Lubuntu all installed at the same time | 00:00 |
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| charlie-tca | n2diy: thanks for letting me know. Glad you got it working | 00:01 |
| NickJ | So software written for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu will all work on the different desktop environments? Ok, I am pretty new to Linux, so the three desktop environments must all be built on or be running 'on top' of the same shell or something? I thought Gnome was a shell? | 00:03 |
| charlie-tca | they will all work together in Ubuntu and derivatives. Gnome is a desktop environment, KDE is also, and so is Xfce | 00:04 |
| knome | NickJ, gnome and xfce use the gtk toolkit, while kde uses the qt toolkit | 00:04 |
| NickJ | Ah, ok, thank you knome. | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | If you install kde applications, it will cause the installer to pull what it needs of kde and qt to let it work | 00:05 |
| knome | NickJ, if you install a kde app, you will have to install/load qt libraries, which are not usually loaded with gnome/xfce | 00:05 |
| NickJ | One more question...I sometimes see software that has two versions, the GTK version and the Qt version, for instance in Ubuntu Software Center, there is a Sega Saturn emulator that has two versions: Gtk port and Qt port...I should always choose the Gtk one when I see stuff like that. Thank you. | 00:06 |
| knome | NickJ, yes, if you are using xubuntu. | 00:07 |
| knome | NickJ, even if both work, the gtk version will need less additional dependencies, as well as look more integrated to the system | 00:07 |
| n2diy | will defraging a windows system screw up the Xubuntu system? | 00:11 |
| charlie-tca | It shouldn't, but a wubi installed Xubuntu could be | 00:11 |
| charlie-tca | A separate install won't be touched by defrag | 00:12 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca, it is a standard Windows, then Xubuntu install. | 00:12 |
| charlie-tca | You installed without using wubi, right? | 00:13 |
| n2diy | charlie-tca, right | 00:14 |
| charlie-tca | Then it won't affect the linux side of things | 00:14 |
| NickJ | Ah, ok, thank you very much knome, greatly appreciated. :) | 00:16 |
| yesitisjustme | can i use xubuntu with 256mb ram? | 00:23 |
| GridCube | yes | 00:24 |
| yesitisjustme | have you installed xubuntu with 256mb ram before? | 00:25 |
| knome | yesitisjustme, yes, that's been done | 00:30 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I have, it will run slowly | 00:31 |
| charlie-tca | You can use one application at a time, as long as you are not in a hurry | 00:32 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, time to go away for a while | 00:33 |
| yesitisjustme | xubuntu with 256mb ram will go slow? | 00:35 |
| knome | yesitisjustme, yes | 00:35 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, it will | 00:35 |
| yesitisjustme | ok | 00:36 |
| yesitisjustme | is gyachi on the repos? | 00:54 |
| knome | !info gyachi | 00:54 |
| ubottu | Package gyachi does not exist in natty | 00:54 |
| KM0201 | knome: hmm, i think there's a .deb of it somewhere | 00:59 |
| KM0201 | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html | 00:59 |
| knome | KM0201, the question was about repostories | 00:59 |
| KM0201 | knome: i know that. | 00:59 |
| knome | :) | 00:59 |
| KM0201 | yesitisjustme: if you've got 256mb of ram, try Lubuntu | 01:00 |
| yesitisjustme | ok thanks | 01:01 |
| inaety | How can I set up HDMI out on xubuntu? | 01:51 |
| orngjce223 | Huh. I don't know the first thing about displays. You may want to ask either #ubuntu (for technical details) or #xfce (for where all the options are on the interface). | 01:52 |
| inaety | orngjce223, good idea | 01:53 |
| ochosi | inaety: what graphics card are you using? | 01:54 |
| ochosi | and do you only want to use it for video or also for audio? | 01:54 |
| orngjce223 | Heh, I'm no good with actually doing things, I just know who else to ask :p | 01:54 |
| inaety | ochosi, video is enough. and hold on let me lspci | 01:54 |
| ochosi | orngjce223: :) | 01:55 |
| inaety | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) | 01:55 |
| ochosi | k, if you use intel you won't have a graphical interface like when using proprietary nvidia or ati graphics | 01:55 |
| ochosi | you can install something like arandr instead | 01:56 |
| inaety | ochosi, okay i am. so this gui will let me handle it? | 01:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, should | 01:56 |
| ochosi | at least it's what my friends with intel graphics use | 01:57 |
| inaety | nice | 01:59 |
| inaety | so easy | 01:59 |
| inaety | it works greawt | 01:59 |
| ochosi | ok, nice, have fun with it ;) | 02:00 |
| gnoob | Hey, I have a problem with my wireless. I can no longer get to the Internet from my home wireless. The laptop connects fine and and my home PC is no connected to my neighbors wireless. | 03:19 |
| gnoob | I was also able to ping the router. | 03:21 |
| gnoob | We have not messed with any settings on the router but I checked it and it looks OK. | 03:21 |
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| Guest64827 | kto nit govorit po ruski? | 12:32 |
| knome | !ru | Guest64827 | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Guest64827: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 12:34 |
| Aicasn | is flashplugin-installer broken on natty 64? | 12:57 |
| Aicasn | on mine it just installed a bunch of crap that doesn't do anything...no plugin present. http://pastebin.com/vcE6kKEE | 12:59 |
| Aicasn | oh. i see why. the URL is wrong in the package | 13:01 |
| thinkstu | peace be upon you all, | 13:30 |
| thinkstu | I have a fast question, I want to use a light ubuntu version, and I found Lubuntu and Xubuntu - I'm not sure what's the different can anyone give me a link or just let me know which on is faster ? | 13:30 |
| ochosi | that kinda depends on your processing power, if you have a fast/er pc you won't notice any difference, at least in my experience | 13:31 |
| mifos | hi:P | 15:46 |
| mifos | i have a small problem . I just install xubuntu 11.04 on vm and i want to put the classic display menu on it (with menu on the left up corner like classic ubuntu style) anyone know hhow i can do it :P? | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | You should already have a menu there. | 15:48 |
| mifos | i have only 1. i want the menu with Applications Places System like ubuntu | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | Can't do it. Xubuntu does not use that menu. It is a gnome menu thing | 15:49 |
| mifos | a ok ty :) | 15:49 |
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| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| hopecon | How can I pull newer packages into Xubuntu natty | 16:06 |
| hopecon | Is there a sid-like dist for Xubuntu? | 16:06 |
| charlie-tca | no | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | you can run the update-manager or use terminal to update. | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | If you need newer than natty, that is the development version, which is kind of unstable | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | hopecon: we put out a new version of Xubuntu every six months with up-to-date packages. If you need things faster than that, you might want to look into compiling your own | 16:15 |
| hopecon | thanks, charlie-tca | 16:21 |
| hopecon | i'm mainly just looking for a newer release of bitlbee (irc to multiprotocol gateway) because of a change to twitter's auth schema that isn't present in the release that's in natty | 16:21 |
| hopecon | so i'll just do it the old school /usr/local way ;) | 16:22 |
| Guest77224 | hello | 17:08 |
| === Guest77224 is now known as Maxx640 | ||
| Maxx640 | Hello | 17:08 |
| Maxx640 | I work as in GIS and would like to install GRASS | 17:10 |
| Maxx640 | but I can't find how to do that on xubuntu | 17:10 |
| Maxx640 | any body can help? | 17:10 |
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| tuxx1 | hello. how can I control my laptop's cpu freq in xubuntu? | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca | !info grass | 20:55 |
| ubottu | grass (source: grass): Geographic Resources Analysis Support System. In component universe, is extra. Version 6.4.0~rc6+42329-3build1 (natty), package size 13321 kB, installed size 40696 kB | 20:55 |
| EdgEy | Hello | 21:38 |
| EdgEy | My system (11.04) has stopped displaying window borders/mouse pointer, similar to if you kill metacity under gnome | 21:39 |
| EdgEy | Any ideas? | 21:39 |
| EdgEy | Also, nothing shows in panel, now I have xchat and firefox open and the application switcher is blank | 21:40 |
| TheSheep | looks like xfwm4 died, can you start it somehow? | 21:41 |
| TheSheep | alt+f2 works? | 21:41 |
| EdgEy | perfect, I couldn't really use firefox well enough to find out the name of window manager | 21:42 |
| EdgEy | thanks | 21:42 |
| EdgEy | it would load up in a box 200x200 :P | 21:42 |
| elros | do you have xfwm running? | 21:53 |
| n2diy_ | Seven months ago I dual booted a "friends" laptop with Xubuntu 10.04 over Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. Yesterday, she had an issue with something, and deleted Xubuntu. Now she has a pet rock, and wants me to fix it. I'm at a grub rescue prompt, suggestions? | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | what are you trying to do with it? Remove linux completely, make xubuntu work again, or just leave it with windows? | 22:10 |
| n2diy_ | charlie-tca, save everything possible, nothing was backed up. | 22:10 |
| n2diy_ | and reload Xubuntu. | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | So, if /home was a separate partition, it is still there. Winodws xp is still there if you did not remove it. | 22:11 |
| n2diy_ | Windows can be sacrificed. | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | Then look at it with a live cd, see what is there and what is not. | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | Then you know where to reinstall xubuntu | 22:12 |
| n2diy_ | charlie-tca, 10-4, I was thinking grub could be restored? | 22:12 |
| charlie-tca | not if xubuntu was deleted | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | !grub | 22:13 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | That guide works to reinstall grub | 22:13 |
| orngjce223 | If you /only/ want windows, though, you can just drop syslinux on there and have done with it | 22:13 |
| n2diy_ | charlie-tca, but grub still exsists, I'm at a grub prompt!? | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | But it will depend on what was actually deleted | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | then follow that wiki page to make it work again | 22:14 |
| n2diy_ | 10-4 | 22:14 |
| n2diy_ | Only Windows is not an option, only linux is. I don't reinstall viruses. | 22:15 |
| orngjce223 | Mmm. | 22:17 |
| n2diy_ | orngjce223, When I fix computers for folks, I tell them the problem is Windows, and Linux is the cure. So... | 22:21 |
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| orngjce223 | Hehe | 22:23 |
| Sysi | you could tell them to learn to google and actually find out how to use windows | 22:24 |
| elros | you could also tell them to defrag the hard drive | 22:24 |
| Sysi | n2diy_: hod did he remove xubuntu? | 22:25 |
| Sysi | *how | 22:25 |
| n2diy_ | Sysi, no idea, I wasn' there. | 22:25 |
| n2diy_ | wasn't | 22:25 |
| Sysi | uhm.. well you can install xubuntu back and set it to use old partitions, if they still exist | 22:26 |
| Sysi | but you should check what did he actually do | 22:27 |
| n2diy_ | Sysi, I can't find out what she did, when she doesn't like what I tell her, she'll find any Tom, Dick or Harry off the street to do what she wants, and that is what happened. | 22:30 |
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