[00:00] You can even have Kubuntu,Ubuntu,Xubuntu,Lubuntu all installed at the same time [00:01] n2diy: thanks for letting me know. Glad you got it working [00:03] So software written for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu will all work on the different desktop environments? Ok, I am pretty new to Linux, so the three desktop environments must all be built on or be running 'on top' of the same shell or something? I thought Gnome was a shell? [00:04] they will all work together in Ubuntu and derivatives. Gnome is a desktop environment, KDE is also, and so is Xfce [00:04] NickJ, gnome and xfce use the gtk toolkit, while kde uses the qt toolkit [00:04] Ah, ok, thank you knome. [00:05] If you install kde applications, it will cause the installer to pull what it needs of kde and qt to let it work [00:05] NickJ, if you install a kde app, you will have to install/load qt libraries, which are not usually loaded with gnome/xfce [00:06] One more question...I sometimes see software that has two versions, the GTK version and the Qt version, for instance in Ubuntu Software Center, there is a Sega Saturn emulator that has two versions: Gtk port and Qt port...I should always choose the Gtk one when I see stuff like that. Thank you. [00:07] NickJ, yes, if you are using xubuntu. [00:07] NickJ, even if both work, the gtk version will need less additional dependencies, as well as look more integrated to the system [00:11] will defraging a windows system screw up the Xubuntu system? [00:11] It shouldn't, but a wubi installed Xubuntu could be [00:12] A separate install won't be touched by defrag [00:12] charlie-tca, it is a standard Windows, then Xubuntu install. [00:13] You installed without using wubi, right? [00:14] charlie-tca, right [00:14] Then it won't affect the linux side of things [00:16] Ah, ok, thank you very much knome, greatly appreciated. :) [00:23] can i use xubuntu with 256mb ram? [00:24] yes [00:25] have you installed xubuntu with 256mb ram before? [00:30] yesitisjustme, yes, that's been done [00:31] yes, I have, it will run slowly [00:32] You can use one application at a time, as long as you are not in a hurry [00:33] Okay, time to go away for a while [00:35] xubuntu with 256mb ram will go slow? [00:35] yesitisjustme, yes [00:35] Yes, it will [00:36] ok [00:54] is gyachi on the repos? [00:54] !info gyachi [00:54] Package gyachi does not exist in natty [00:59] knome: hmm, i think there's a .deb of it somewhere [00:59] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html [00:59] KM0201, the question was about repostories [00:59] knome: i know that. [00:59] :) [01:00] yesitisjustme: if you've got 256mb of ram, try Lubuntu [01:01] ok thanks [01:51] How can I set up HDMI out on xubuntu? [01:52] Huh. I don't know the first thing about displays. You may want to ask either #ubuntu (for technical details) or #xfce (for where all the options are on the interface). [01:53] orngjce223, good idea [01:54] inaety: what graphics card are you using? [01:54] and do you only want to use it for video or also for audio? [01:54] Heh, I'm no good with actually doing things, I just know who else to ask :p [01:54] ochosi, video is enough. and hold on let me lspci [01:55] orngjce223: :) [01:55] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) [01:55] k, if you use intel you won't have a graphical interface like when using proprietary nvidia or ati graphics [01:56] you can install something like arandr instead [01:56] ochosi, okay i am. so this gui will let me handle it? [01:56] yeah, should [01:57] at least it's what my friends with intel graphics use [01:59] nice [01:59] so easy [01:59] it works greawt [02:00] ok, nice, have fun with it ;) [03:19] Hey, I have a problem with my wireless. I can no longer get to the Internet from my home wireless. The laptop connects fine and and my home PC is no connected to my neighbors wireless. [03:21] I was also able to ping the router. [03:21] We have not messed with any settings on the router but I checked it and it looks OK. === wolf is now known as Guest64827 [12:32] kto nit govorit po ruski? [12:34] !ru | Guest64827 [12:34] Guest64827: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [12:57] is flashplugin-installer broken on natty 64? [12:59] on mine it just installed a bunch of crap that doesn't do anything...no plugin present. http://pastebin.com/vcE6kKEE [13:01] oh. i see why. the URL is wrong in the package [13:30] peace be upon you all, [13:30] I have a fast question, I want to use a light ubuntu version, and I found Lubuntu and Xubuntu - I'm not sure what's the different can anyone give me a link or just let me know which on is faster ? [13:31] that kinda depends on your processing power, if you have a fast/er pc you won't notice any difference, at least in my experience [15:46] hi:P [15:47] i have a small problem . I just install xubuntu 11.04 on vm and i want to put the classic display menu on it (with menu on the left up corner like classic ubuntu style) anyone know hhow i can do it :P? [15:48] You should already have a menu there. [15:49] i have only 1. i want the menu with Applications Places System like ubuntu [15:49] Can't do it. Xubuntu does not use that menu. It is a gnome menu thing [15:49] a ok ty :) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:06] How can I pull newer packages into Xubuntu natty [16:06] Is there a sid-like dist for Xubuntu? [16:12] no [16:12] you can run the update-manager or use terminal to update. [16:12] If you need newer than natty, that is the development version, which is kind of unstable [16:15] hopecon: we put out a new version of Xubuntu every six months with up-to-date packages. If you need things faster than that, you might want to look into compiling your own [16:21] thanks, charlie-tca [16:21] i'm mainly just looking for a newer release of bitlbee (irc to multiprotocol gateway) because of a change to twitter's auth schema that isn't present in the release that's in natty [16:22] so i'll just do it the old school /usr/local way ;) [17:08] hello === Guest77224 is now known as Maxx640 [17:08] Hello [17:10] I work as in GIS and would like to install GRASS [17:10] but I can't find how to do that on xubuntu [17:10] any body can help? === xGrind is now known as xGrind-oFF [19:33] hello. how can I control my laptop's cpu freq in xubuntu? [20:55] !info grass [20:55] grass (source: grass): Geographic Resources Analysis Support System. In component universe, is extra. Version 6.4.0~rc6+42329-3build1 (natty), package size 13321 kB, installed size 40696 kB [21:38] Hello [21:39] My system (11.04) has stopped displaying window borders/mouse pointer, similar to if you kill metacity under gnome [21:39] Any ideas? [21:40] Also, nothing shows in panel, now I have xchat and firefox open and the application switcher is blank [21:41] looks like xfwm4 died, can you start it somehow? [21:41] alt+f2 works? [21:42] perfect, I couldn't really use firefox well enough to find out the name of window manager [21:42] thanks [21:42] it would load up in a box 200x200 :P [21:53] do you have xfwm running? [22:08] Seven months ago I dual booted a "friends" laptop with Xubuntu 10.04 over Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. Yesterday, she had an issue with something, and deleted Xubuntu. Now she has a pet rock, and wants me to fix it. I'm at a grub rescue prompt, suggestions? [22:10] what are you trying to do with it? Remove linux completely, make xubuntu work again, or just leave it with windows? [22:10] charlie-tca, save everything possible, nothing was backed up. [22:11] and reload Xubuntu. [22:11] So, if /home was a separate partition, it is still there. Winodws xp is still there if you did not remove it. [22:11] Windows can be sacrificed. [22:11] Then look at it with a live cd, see what is there and what is not. [22:12] Then you know where to reinstall xubuntu [22:12] charlie-tca, 10-4, I was thinking grub could be restored? [22:13] not if xubuntu was deleted [22:13] !grub [22:13] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [22:13] That guide works to reinstall grub [22:13] If you /only/ want windows, though, you can just drop syslinux on there and have done with it [22:14] charlie-tca, but grub still exsists, I'm at a grub prompt!? [22:14] But it will depend on what was actually deleted [22:14] then follow that wiki page to make it work again [22:14] 10-4 [22:15] Only Windows is not an option, only linux is. I don't reinstall viruses. [22:17] Mmm. [22:21] orngjce223, When I fix computers for folks, I tell them the problem is Windows, and Linux is the cure. So... === xGrind-oFF is now known as xGrind [22:23] Hehe [22:24] you could tell them to learn to google and actually find out how to use windows [22:24] you could also tell them to defrag the hard drive [22:25] n2diy_: hod did he remove xubuntu? [22:25] *how [22:25] Sysi, no idea, I wasn' there. [22:25] wasn't [22:26] uhm.. well you can install xubuntu back and set it to use old partitions, if they still exist [22:27] but you should check what did he actually do [22:30] Sysi, I can't find out what she did, when she doesn't like what I tell her, she'll find any Tom, Dick or Harry off the street to do what she wants, and that is what happened. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se